Rallye Wrc Monte-Carlo 2013

[vkangas]

Hana Juho HANAAAA!!!
Your finnish is getting better and better... :) .

[T.Maanteiden kuningas]

Juho?


Okay,maybe there wasn't snow in Juho's first WRC rally with Mitsubishi. 2006 Finland, freezing night and wrong type of Black Horses.

[T.Maanteiden kuningas]

Yes,tomorrow Hana Juho Hanaaaaaaaa!

[Xsara Fan]

Neuville if he has another exit at next rally(Sweden is not his favourite) Malcolm will not be so patient like Matton.

Joke of the day! Remember J-M Crashvala during his best years...

[vkangas]

Man it's great to have Juho in the WRC. Best interviews, always good humor! :)

[dimviii]

Joke of the day! Remember J-M Crashvala during his best years...

you havent got to have very good memory about Latvala.....
by the way Neuville has 5 retirements out of 7 rallies if i remember correct...

[dimviii]

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[dimviii]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xwt9kt_citroen-wrc-2013-rallye-monte-carlo-jour-1_sport#.UPcUbx2EwYQ

[stefanvv]

Interesting comments about the timing problems - Monte Carlo Rally: World Rally teams furious over timing issue - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/105149)

[dimviii]

Neuvilles broken steering arm
http://planetemarcus.com/wordpress/wp-content/gallery/mc13_day1/2958.jpg

[eestlane]

Wich tires and how many can wrc drivers use on this rally?

[dimviii]

nice photo!!

http://nsa30.casimages.com/img/2013/01/16/130116095608834271.jpg

[dimviii]

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photos/rallye_monte_carlo_2013/ade_43.jpghttp://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photos/rallye_monte_carlo_2013/ade_52.jpghttp://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photos/rallye_monte_carlo_2013/ade_42.jpg

[dimviii]

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[PLuto]

Wich tires and how many can wrc drivers use on this rally?

There is article about it - Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=14804) (it is in czech, but with translator I think understandable)

[dimviii]

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photos/rallye_monte_carlo_2013/ade_52.jpghttp://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photos/rallye_monte_carlo_2013/ade_54.jpghttp://img17.imageshack.us/img17/1121/dsc0062be.jpg

[Sulland]

Good updates:
Google Translate (http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=no&tl=en&u=http://www.rallyrykter.no/)

[Simmi]

I think Colin Clark probably says it best on twitter regarding the timing:

@voiceofrally
A lesson I've learned in my 42 yrs on this earth. In all walks of life, you just cannot expect five star service at bargain basement prices!

@voiceofrally
One last word, if we value professionalism, if we value experience and if we value the benefits this brings, we must expect to pay for it.


Can't say fairer than that. You get what you pay for.

[dimviii]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4hnMA94lY_Y

[stefanvv]

I think Colin Clark probably says it best on twitter regarding the timing:

@voiceofrally
A lesson I've learned in my 42 yrs on this earth. In all walks of life, you just cannot expect five star service at bargain basement prices!

@voiceofrally
One last word, if we value professionalism, if we value experience and if we value the benefits this brings, we must expect to pay for it.


Can't say fairer than that. You get what you pay for.

Yeeees, I thought so. It is expected reason to change the provider, but what amuses me is that FIA actually don't care about the quality.

[Juha_Koo]

Day review from Day1 in wrc.com features a very very short onboard from Mikko, with a new onboard angle. It's not prefect, but now I have some faith...

[tfp]

I see this has been complained about before but.... Heres me full of praise to the guys at work for Thierry being in 1st place in monte, and then i read the fia have messed up the split times! Does todt even give a to$$?
More importantly, what happens if there was a nasty accident? How would the safety crews know to cancel the remainder of a stage??
Not only is this stage times thing an annoyance to WRCs very small fan base (us) but now it is starting to become hazerdous to the safety of the competitors! I hope this is sorted for tomorrow....

[dimviii]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8Kk4n17PPqM

[Jerra]

Wich tires and how many can wrc drivers use on this rally?

Bulletin No.1
http://www.acm.mc/documents/4/additif_n1.pdf

[PLuto]

Start list into second leg - Rallye Monte Carlo 2013 - Start order - leg 2 - Rally-Base (http://rally-base.com/2013/rallye-monte-carlo-2013/start-list/?startTimeTypeId=271)

[stefanvv]

Cool video

[Fast Eddie WRC]

UK fans get Highlights Day 1 - 'Live' now on Sport TV2 in Portugal ...

Stream: Sporttv 2 online, sporttv2alternativa em directo no CasaDosSegredos.tv - Secret Story 3 Online (http://www.casadossegredos.tv/sporttv2alternativa)

[danon]

prokop is a total waste of money!


it's his own money. Show us your skills, please or stop trolling.


lappi near to prokop's time! Great start!


with a puncture!

沒有評論!!!

[tommeke_B]

And the award for most childish forum-member goes to...

[spiderem]

Just catching up the action from yesterday in Australia.
Looks like the timing was a big f*** up yesterday. Anybody know if they have corrected it for the rest of the rally?

Only 1 retirement of WRC drivers, pretty amazing by the looks of how tricky the stages were... Shame for Neuville but who is surprised??? Hopefully Nasser will invest in Hanninen instead. Sorry Belgium.

[tommeke_B]

Thierry Neuville: "Disappointed about what's happened today, looks like we were just 5cm to deep in the cut. You can see it on the picture."
http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/76045_483001555074722_877601837_n.jpg

[stefanvv]

Thierry Neuville: "Disappointed about what's happened today, looks like we were just 5cm to deep in the cut. You can see it on the picture."

So Ford still suffers of weak steering arm joints :confused:

[dimviii]

day 1
camera angles not so right.Way down in some cars

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QuUuDjs3rIA#!

[bluuford]

Weather for tomorrow:
Morning: Sunny, teperature -3..-11 degrees, bit windy in some places. No snowfall.
Afternoon: Sunny, temperature -3..-7 degrees, wind decreases.No snowfall

Friday:
Morning: -7..-12 no snofall, cloudy, calm
Afternoon: -1..+3 no snowfall, cloudy, Calm

Saturday: -3..+2, heavy snowfall. 15-20 cm for the first Turini and up to 30 cm of fresh snow for the Turini by the last run. Heavy rain on the lower elevations.

[bluuford]

So Ford still suffers of weak steering arm joints :confused:
When you hit such a solid obstacle on such angle then it does not matter much how strong the joint is.

[stefanvv]

When you hit such a solid obstacle on such angle then it does not matter much how strong the joint is.

Probably I don't see well :confused: Doesn't appear that dangerous to me

[dimviii]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=HQHEBujdJf8

[dimviii]

from Colins twitter

News from the the weather guys at VW. The three day forecast for Sospel/Turini suggests up to 50cm of snow on Saturday! Classic Monte Fever!

[MAXLD]

day 1
camera angles not so right.Way down in some cars


I think those angles might be on purpose, to focus the driver's hand and foot work during the stage...

[stefanvv]

from Colins twitter

News from the the weather guys at VW. The three day forecast for Sospel/Turini suggests up to 50cm of snow on Saturday! Classic Monte Fever!

That's the Turini we like :D Classics indeed

[stefanvv]

I think those angles might be on purpose, to focus the driver's hand and foot work during the stage...

There is no much point when you see the sky, not the road, they could be higher...

[dimviii]

nice small video with Mikko and Hanninen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ge2czCiXCCQ

[Kielder]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1116/1116_rally_monte_carlo_2013_e1bea89c11.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photos/rallye_monte_carlo_2013/ade_55.jpg
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http://www.almrally.ru/imageModul/foto/44405/44413.jpg
http://i47.tinypic.com/30rv2c2.jpg

[GigiGalliNo1]

Ah.... just read all the reports about the stuff up with Timing....

I hope it's rectified for the remaining of the days....

But knowing there is going to be cm's of SNOW! I guess S(H)!T won't be able to get a plane out for timing in the mountains! The stages are further away from service as Autosport mentioned meaning possibly not getting times! Not even a clock at the beginning of the stage!!

[GigiGalliNo1]

Also just to add. SPEED TV in Australia are showing WRC Day 1 Monte Carlo Highlights... 15minutes.... Day 2 to 4 will be 30mins... (All from RedBull Media)

Will try to post up later on.

[Motorsportfun]

http://i47.tinypic.com/30rv2c2.jpg

You can follow THE ENTIRE rally of this crew LIVE at this link: Diretta Rally - Rally Live Streaming - Rally di Monte Carlo 2013 - Diretta Live (http://www.direttarally.it)

[tolis]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy01Ci76NKc

[Kielder]

You can follow THE ENTIRE rally of this crew LIVE at this link: Diretta Rally - Rally Live Streaming - Rally di Monte Carlo 2013 - Diretta Live (http://www.direttarally.it)

No, we can't. They're the biggest disappointment of the rally ;( .

[jarredw]

The opening of the day 1 highlights were really well made, enjoyed the editing...even though I couldn't understand the french version!!
I think the 15 minutes for day one was far too short, although 2012 day highlights were around 15-20 minutes of the days action, the rest of the time was spent recapping the days earlier - which got boring.

Onboards on the VW lacked! Both angles in Hirvonens car were wrong. Both should have been higher

30 Minutes sounds okay for the remainder of the rally although I hope there isn't too much emphasis on recap as in the past!

Rant over! :)

[Kielder]

I still can't believe the timing issues that happened today. It's incredible that the cars had to start a stage without knowing their time on a previous one. One point is clear: if S1T were still working with the WRC, this wouldn't have happened, not here not anywhere else. It's a decision that FIA made (it seems due to save money), but neither they nor SIT has given public apologies, only that they're studying everything. Besides, they can't assure that the system will work properly tomorrow.
We only can find the bright side of the story in this Loeb's words: “I wasn’t measuring my pace at all, because with the official timing system not working, I couldn’t change my rhythm in accordance with that of the other drivers. So I pushed hard throughout the afternoon."

[spiderem]

Looking at videos and pictures, Hanninen is very very spectacular. Maybe a bit too much?
Hope he will manage to hold it till the end.
I do believe that spectacular doesn't mean fast stage time generally... Any feedback from people on stages? or more conoisseur than me?

[spiderem]

if there is 50cm of snow as predicted, do they use snow plough before / in between the stage?
I'm sorry, but as exciting as it sounds, i highly doubt that this much snow would be drivable...

[jarredw]

Official highlights of Day 1 in English - don't know who the first commentator is, then Paul King comes back:

WRC 2013 Monte Carlo Day 1 Highlights - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpcweqS-wmE)

[Prisoner Monkeys]

Official highlights of Day 1 in English - don't know who the first commentator is, then Paul King comes back:

WRC 2013 Monte Carlo Day 1 Highlights - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpcweqS-wmE)
What I liked:
- A good balance between in-car shots, out-of-car shots and interviews.
- Plenty of variety in the shots, particularly in the out-of-car stuff.
- Very little repetition of shots, and what is used, is used effectively to establish that the cars are repeating a stage.
- Paul King. Don't get me wrong; I think Colin Clark does a great job, but King is the commentator I have associated with the WRC for years.

What I didn't like:
- No balance between stage coverage; there was about five or six minutes' worth of content from Stage 1, but barely a minute's worth from Stage 2.
- The segment is too brief and there is too much focus on Loeb and Ogier. Maybe there will be a longer programme produced once the rally is over, but there was a whole lot going on - Latvala's recovery in the afternoon, Hanninen's stage times, Novikov and Ostberg yo-yoing through the field, and Kosciuszko's disaster - that didn't get covered. Outsiders could be forgiven for thinking that Loeb and Ogier are the only two drivers in the field.

[Tinke1979]

You can follow THE ENTIRE rally of this crew LIVE at this link: Diretta Rally - Rally Live Streaming - Rally di Monte Carlo 2013 - Diretta Live (http://www.direttarally.it)


Maybe the 3G is not the best system for live streaming INCAR.. But I like the idea of live incars from "amateur-drivers". Maybe some improvement today?

[dimviii]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fWih7erb0QE

[Sulland]

Is there a good place to find info on conditions on todays stages?

[Miika]

Is there a good place to find info on conditions on todays stages?

https://twitter.com/sebmarshall

[vkangas]

Looking at videos and pictures, Hanninen is very very spectacular. Maybe a bit too much?
Hope he will manage to hold it till the end.
I do believe that spectacular doesn't mean fast stage time generally... Any feedback from people on stages? or more conoisseur than me?
Juho used cross-axle mixed tyre setup one time yesterday. That was when he also had his spins.

He has also said earlier that he needs to adjust his driving style more as Fiesta WRC needs generally less aggressive driving style and he's used to drive Fabia very aggressively. Also, not any tests on snow so I would not be worried. The only ones that need to worry are the other competitors :)

[noel157]

Juho used cross-axle mixed tyre setup one time yesterday. That was when he also had his spins.

He has also said earlier that he needs to adjust his driving style more as Fiesta WRC needs generally less aggressive driving style and he's used to drive Fabia very aggressively. Also, not any tests on snow so I would not be worried. The only ones that need to worry are the other competitors :)

Juho is the best that M-Sport have on this event and may well be the best driver they'll have this season even with only 2 events or, hopefully, a full season.

[noel157]

English version with the dreaded Mr King:

WRC 2013 Monte Carlo Day 1 Highlights - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpcweqS-wmE&feature=em-uploademail)

[Mintexmemory]

Day 2 soon - Loeb notwithstanding, VW must be quietly satisfied with their first competitive day. Despite his woes JML has kept it together and can only improve.

Still looking for 1 or 3 persons (identified gite for 4 or 6 people) to make up a group to see next year's Monte. Fly into Valence (edit: Lyon I mean :rolleyes :) on Monday, leave Nice on the Sunday.

[werner]

SS5 Spits starting ...

[Mirek]

if there is 50cm of snow as predicted, do they use snow plough before / in between the stage?
I'm sorry, but as exciting as it sounds, i highly doubt that this much snow would be drivable...

It's generally same forecast as in 2009. That year the first morning stage was under something like 10-20 cm of new snow, heavy in lower altitudes. First car after zeros was Franz Wittmann jr. and he was the first real snow plough. Later Meeke and Hänninen crashed in that stage. When there is a calamity in the mountains there are not enough machines to keep all roads ok. It was really crazy and we even didn't manage to reach the stage and had to walk last two kilometers uphill :)

[Mirek]

On this stage there is the famous tricky place where Sarrazin crashed in 2009 and Arzeno in 2011. Also just two kilometers further there is a place where Vouilloz crashed in 2009. I guess the conditions may look similar to that of 2009 now.

[Viking]

Good morning! Hey, we got splits :up:


Edit: okey....some splits...

[PLuto]

Penalties for Prokop and Ostberg are back :)

[noel157]

Ogier hanging onto Loeb's bumper in splits. Should be a good day's rallying.

[Donney]

And it seems it is business as usual for Mr. Loeb.

[6789]

Top start by Ogier :) Bring on another day of rallying

[Donney]

Ogier some 5 secs. faster :O

[Mirek]

Just 5 stages done of 18 but already 2 hours of driving!

[amilk]

Is there any info about road conditions on SS5 and later stages? The time differencies are small on SS5

[donlorean]

Good morning! Hey, we got splits :up:

Correction...

We got some splits...

[Donney]

Hirvonen lost 15.5 secs

[6789]

Mikko not happy with his time. Could be a long season against Ogier

[Mirek]

Is there any info about road conditions on SS5 and later stages? The time differencies are small on SS5

First few kilometers of this stage are dry or icy, the rest (majority) is snow. St. Bonnet is sure snow. Lamastre probably only mixed.

[Donney]

Oh well MC is not the rally to judge that. It is extremely special.

[Donney]

Sordo +10.6

[stefanvv]

Splits are looking better than yesterday. We have improvement (not perfect though)

[stefanvv]

Impressive Novikov :)

[Donney]

Woooooh Novikov!!!!!

[Donney]

It seems Hirvonen, Latvala and Ostberg were not confident on this stage. I hope Hänninen feels more at home.

[nr7wave]

I think Østbergs time is quite good.

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[werner]

I am really surprised about Armin Kremer! He is quite similar with Sepp Wiegand!

[satukata]

Big suprise Finns strugling in snow conditions... what will hapend in sweden? Mikko don´t know what is wrong and its same with J-M.

Juho didn´t test in snow..
Hope they find more speed.. Flying Finns :(

[Donney]

Somehow I am sure the Finns will fly in proper snow conditions.

[dupanton]

If you watch the onboard footage of the "crash" of Neuville, you can see that it is just bad luck! You see he cuts where others cut to. On the other onboards you can see them cut about as deep as the others. So just the weak suspension of the Ford to blaim...

[Teme]

Big suprise Finns strugling in snow conditions... what will hapend in sweden? Mikko don´t know what is wrong and its same with J-M.

Juho didn´t test in snow..
Hope they find more speed.. Flying Finns :(

Again, snow on asphalt is totally different to snow on gravel. Also different tyres and snowbanks in Sweden so I wouldn't be worried.

[satukata]

whole snow and more comeing -10celsius.. conditions like in sweden, but tires are only with small studs.. in sweden you have longer studs and much better grip.. great monte fight!!

[Mirek]

If you watch the onboard footage of the "crash" of Neuville, you can see that it is just bad luck! You see he cuts where others cut to. On the other onboards you can see them cut about as deep as the others. So just the weak suspension of the Ford to blaim...

Weak suspension to blame? Come on.

[Bartek]

SS6 is full of snow?

[oyunbozan]

i think we should focus on the fight between sordo and hirvonen.

[Mirek]

SS6 is full of snow?

From my experience I would bet it is. It's all high altitude on a cold plateau. Usually when there is some snow it's here and on Vercors stages (SS11 this year).

[satukata]

From my experience I would bet it is. It's all high altitude on a cold plateau. Usually when there is some snow it's here and on Vercors stages (SS11 this year).

Full snow and more comeing...

[Zeropt]

No slipts from Ogier and Sordo...

[Mintexmemory]

No slipts from Ogier and Sordo...
Now there are

[Bartek]

thanks Mirek, because I overslept maybe they told told in radio which tyres are in use? studded?

[Mise]

Novikov has a new set of studs. Other fords have two new and four used studs. Citroen and VW have studs, but Becks didn't know are they new or used.

[andyone]

ss6 lots of snow. seb has lots of snow on his car..game on

[Donney]

Novikov is fast so far and Latvala could be faster than Ogier...

[Bartek]

Big lost for Bouffier in split 3, maybe spin

Novikov is faaaast :)

[Mise]

if Novikov is this fast and the grip is getting better, we might see the first ss win for Juho.

[Bartek]

Look at 4split for Juho!! He is flying :)

[Mirek]

This stage is by nature way fastest of all in Monte Carlo. It shall suit Nordic drivers more than the twisty ones. But the conditions must be tough because the average speed is 40-50 km/h less than when it's dry (record of Atko from 2008 was over 130 km/h)!

[satukata]

JUHO 1st in split 4!!!

[Donney]

Good time for Sordo!!!!

[Donney]

18:02 for Novikov. WOW!!!

[Mintexmemory]

Go Evgeny!
Nov and JML to catch the Citroen No 2s

[SubaruNorway]

Is Østbergs time penalty correct now?

[satukata]

Fords 1,2,3 :D

[rage82]

Is Østbergs time penalty correct now?

I think yes!

[Bartek]

Malcolm must be happy how, top 3 in St Bonnet is for them

[bluuford]

Actually, the sun is shining but the strong wind is blowing the snow back on the road and from the drivers view it is like snowstorm :-) With the sun, it is even worse.

[Donney]

Good time for Hänninen

[Mintexmemory]

Malcolm must be happy how, top 3 in St Bonnet is for them
With the right tyre choice and their road position things should go VERY well for all 3 today. Loeb and Ogier will be nearer this afternoon,however (unless a lot of snow is 'blown' back on the road :idea :)

[satukata]

Juho had Big moment and whole car offroad in the middle of stage and lost some time and confidence. He was even faster than novikov before off.

[Rally Talent]

Amazing to see how much difference there can be between the splits. Really exciting!

[Rally Talent]

Juho had Big moment and whole car offroad in the middle of stage and lost some time and confidence. He was even faster than novikov before off.

Way to go, Juho! According to best-of-rallylive.com he is considering to take it a little bit more carefully from now on... :)

[Moriarty]

RallyRadio on iphone - by Pufiin browser only? Or enything else?

[Kielder]

Today's photos from St Bonnet:

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photos/rallye_monte_carlo_2013/ade_56.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photos/rallye_monte_carlo_2013/ade_57.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photos/rallye_monte_carlo_2013/ade_58.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photos/rallye_monte_carlo_2013/ade_59.jpg

[Zeropt]

Things look much more balacend today! :cool:

[Mise]

if Novikov is this fast and the grip is getting better, we might see the first ss win for Juho.

I may have jinxed Juho. What's the matter with me? :arrows:

[Mirek]

Andrea Crugnola is stopped in stage :(

[Donney]

A pity Loeb is so comfortably in the lead, but it seems like we may have a rally behind him.

[Donney]

I may have jinxed Juho. What's the matter with me? :arrows:

Then don't ever post again till the end of the rally....

:arrows: ;)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Good start to day two by some of the Fords, especially Novikov. :)

[GigiGalliNo1]

Nice to hear Novikov winning stage in Monte!

[Kielder]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlzxA0qQd8w&feature=player_embedded

[Kielder]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7gcp7lq4no&feature=player_embedded#!

[Kielder]

Kosciuszko at the end of SS6:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BAzjZPlCYAA-400.jpg:large

[Mad cat jnr]

Only a little knock.....!!

[Salist]

Kosciuszko comes to the end of SS6 with damaged rear right suspension.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BAzlGZ5CcAAr3LG.jpg
Photo: Julian Porter

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ford fightback :)

'Evgeny Novikov took full advantage of his decision to fit a new set of studded rubber to his Ford Fiesta RS this morning and duly delivered the first stage win for the Qatar M-Sport World Rally Team.


The young Russian was fastest by 4.9sec from team-mate Mads Ostberg and said: “I was on the limit. I was very careful in the braking areas. It was a difficult stage but I enjoyed it.”


Ostberg made some changes to the car before the stage and they clearly paid off for the Norwegian. “It worked better but I’m still not pushing,” he explained. “I didn’t want to push and I’m losing a lot of time in the high-speed areas.” Not that much though….


Juho Hanninen made it a Ford 1-2-3 in the stage, 8.3sec behind Novikov, although the Finn was slightly rattled after briefly sliding off the road on a fast right corner.'

[Kielder]

IRC 2011 vs WRC 2013, close to the end of St Bonnet:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BAzkdfwCcAAsXKc.jpg:large

[Salist]

Great different. The second is better. :-)

[dimviii]

stage 7 irc 2011 vs wrc 2013
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BAzkdfwCcAAsXKc.jpg

[Bartek]

My God, why I have exams? Conditions are unbelievable ! :) This is what i love in Monte

[Salist]

Kosciuszko out? No split times on SS7.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Novikov looks fastest again in SS7 !!

"Not a bad morning for us...this stage the worst for us, very slippery. Best gravel crew (Delecour and Giraudet!)" :)

[rage82]

Colin: What is the reason about your speed today?
Evgeny: The gravel crew, maybe one of the best!

I really like this russian!

[Mad cat jnr]

New era for Novikov? Has the 'works' drive and is using his head now? Very good tactics with the new tyres for these last two stages!

[Zeropt]

Meanwhile Hirvonen with backwards mode on...

[tommeke_B]

I want Stage One Technology back...

[spiderem]

probably far too early to say that, but for all us that were hoping that 2013 was Mikko's year and he will be WC, it looks like ogier + VW is a very strong package already...
please wrc god, prove me i'm wrong!

[denkimi]

New era for Novikov? Has the 'works' drive and is using his head now? Very good tactics with the new tyres for these last two stages!

we will have to wait to see if the tactics where good. if he uses all his tyres today, he won't have any left for friday and saturday, which may make him lose very much time.

[dupanton]

WRR reporter gives other times (from the board) then wrc.com ...
Who do we have to believe?

[dimviii]

Mikko lost his position from Novikov.

[Mintexmemory]

probably far too early to say that, but for all us that were hoping that 2013 was Mikko's year and he will be WC, it looks like ogier + VW is a very strong package already...
please wrc god, prove me i'm wrong!


WRC God please ignore the previous request!!!

[Donney]

It feels good to see new names on top of the leaderboard

[Jajá]

wrc.com site still weird regarding times, check stage times for SS7... Ostberg is 0.1 behind Ogier and the site reports he's 0.9 behind... errors on the diff to the 1st field too... As most of us here: missing A LOT Stage One.... :(

[noel157]

Saw that, difference in times between various sites. I thought ALL times were sourced from the Spanish outfit so should be the same, if not always correct?

[dimviii]

The Monte (http://en.best-of-rallylive.com/Bestofrallylive/News/The-Monte-s-indispensable-weather-men)

[AP-Racing]

Kosciuszko out? No split times on SS7.

No, he is repair his car

[stefanvv]

I like the way VW are working in this. Quietly, modest, without big fanfares. And the results are not bad at all. We can make more acurate comparison from Portugal on though...

[EightGear]

First Rally The World webisode is out:

RALLYTHEWORLD.com (http://www.rallytheworld.com/#webisodes)

[dimviii]

Seb Marshall ‏@sebmarshall (https://twitter.com/sebmarshall)
Stage 8, slightly warmer - now only -6C. Clear of snow / definite line through it on 70% of stage, final few km still covered.

[amilk]

probably far too early to say that, but for all us that were hoping that 2013 was Mikko's year and he will be WC, it looks like ogier + VW is a very strong package already...
please wrc god, prove me i'm wrong!

Ogier was very quick here last year also with Fabia so too early to conclude- but for sure it will be not an easy drive for Mikko.

[dimviii]

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8072/8388458323_14f46e9243_c.jpghttp://farm9.staticflickr.com/8331/8388458309_0d47e04795_c.jpghttp://farm9.staticflickr.com/8229/8388469525_46b39effce_c.jpg

[rallye-sport]

Update photos with SS6 Photos Rallye Monte-Carlo 2013 (http://www.rallye-sport.fr/photos-rallye-monte-carlo-2013/)

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/valence-monte-carlo-2013/mg_9580.jpg


http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/valence-monte-carlo-2013/img_5483.jpg


http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/valence-monte-carlo-2013/mg_9652.jpg

[EightGear]

Morning summary from wrc.com


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15zAY1WYBC4

[dimviii]

Quickie quiz about vw now...which is the difference at polo livery between Latvala -Ogier?

ps no beers for the winner.

[Francis44]

Quickie quiz about vw now...which is the difference at polo livery between Latvala -Ogier?

ps no beers for the winner.

The sticker names on the windows?!

[A FONDO]

Morning summary from wrc.com


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15zAY1WYBC4

Now this is a good job! Fresh review with 95% pure action and rest 5% for the leaderboard! In HD!

[stefanvv]

Quickie quiz about vw now...which is the difference at polo livery between Latvala -Ogier?

ps no beers for the winner.

"Ultimate" sticker on the front bumber?

EDIT: Dam'n, I could catch up with the beers :D

[bailadero]

Quickie quiz about vw now...which is the difference at polo livery between Latvala -Ogier?

ps no beers for the winner.

bp stickers colour background on front bumper

[Isokello]

Quickie quiz about vw now...which is the difference at polo livery between Latvala -Ogier?

ps no beers for the winner.

Ultimate stickers are different colors front bumper? Ogier blue and Latvala Green?

[dimviii]

The sticker names on the windows?!
2 beers for me

[dimviii]

yes the bp ultimate stickers.Beers from Francis 44


edit Loebs traditional morning espresso(one of plenty)
http://instagram.com/p/Uk3NV2BF2g/

[Francis44]

2 beers for me

You said no beers for the winner :D !

[bailadero]

one beer for me... same time response :s mokin:

Loeb is as good drinking coffee as driving... he doesn´t need hand to hold the plastic cup

[bassist]

Day 2, and and looks like no one can touch Seb Loeb. Is anyone missing Petter- I know I am- just aint the same without him!!!

[Jajá]

I'm sort of enjoying the new competition model! Of course that Mr. Loeb is from another level, but after Ogier, we have a pretty decent fight! Petter would be welcome to this roaster too, but I believe he would be below the Sebs.

[Zeropt]

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photos/rallye_monte_carlo_2013/ade_55.jpg

Soon... :(

[dimviii]

You said no beers for the winner :D !

i wasn t the winner. :D but the looser will pay.

@bassist
Loeb (as always we have seen) will control the difference avoiding the traps-difficult corners stages with ice.As the difference may dicrease will attack at ''safe'' stages.

[dimviii]

Citroën Racing ‏@CitroenRacing (https://twitter.com/CitroenRacing)
Action will resume at 14h50 with SS8 (Labatie d'Andaure 2). All WRCs are once again fitted with 6 studded tyres


i am very curious to know how many studded they have left....

[Mintexmemory]

I'm sort of enjoying the new competition model! Of course that Mr. Loeb is from another level, but after Ogier, we have a pretty decent fight! Petter would be welcome to this roaster too, but I believe he would be below the Sebs.
Sadly, I think he would have been a casualty yesterday and with no Rally 2 he wouldn't have been driving today (opinion based on last years form not his championship year.)

[Mintexmemory]

Citroën Racing ‏@CitroenRacing (https://twitter.com/CitroenRacing)
Action will resume at 14h50 with SS8 (Labatie d'Andaure 2). All WRCs are once again fitted with 6 studded tyres


i am very curious to know how many studded they have left....
Me too, presumably as there is a clear line on certain stages worn studs will be preferred rather than wrecking any that are still fresh. Saturday night could turn into a lottery!

JML has punctured 2 tyres already, 1 was definitely a stud

Also can't recall if this has been asked, is it permitted / possible to replace worn studs on the tyre in service?

[nafpaktos]

Guys i'm looking for the <live text> in the wrc.com but i find nothing ι'm wondering if it is suspended.

[dimviii]

Colin Clark ‏@voiceofrally (https://twitter.com/voiceofrally)
Weather update from end of SS10 Lalouvesc. It's still bloody cold -8C! Thank goodness no wind though. Threat of light snow

[dimviii]

Guys i'm looking for the <live text> in the wrc.com but i find nothing ι'm wondering if it is suspended.

no wrc live,but better here
WRC Rallye Monte Carlo 2013 - Classement, Info, Vidéos et Photo en direct du Monte Carle | Best of Rally Live by MICHELIN | Rallye WRC en direct (http://www.best-of-rallylive.com/Bestofrallylive/LiveNews/(evt)/3419)

[uranium]

-8C bloody cold, rofl :D

[Mirek]

Day 2, and and looks like no one can touch Seb Loeb. Is anyone missing Petter- I know I am- just aint the same without him!!!

I do miss him however I'm pretty sure he would be no match for Loeb. He has never been so good in Monte Carlo.

[PLuto]

Normally there is nobody who can catch Loeb on french stages :)

[Rally Hokkaido]

I was thinking something slightly different. Would it be an advantage to remove some new studs from a new tyre, then replace them later to give the tyre 'a second life'? The regulations don't permit teams to alter the tyre's profile (i.e. add grooves), but I wonder if stud removal and replacement is permitted by the teams or by the tyre supplier?
Me too, presumably as there is a clear line on certain stages worn studs will be preferred rather than wrecking any that are still fresh. Saturday night could turn into a lottery!

JML has punctured 2 tyres already, 1 was definitely a stud

Also can't recall if this has been asked, is it permitted / possible to replace worn studs on the tyre in service?

[Zeropt]

Quickie quiz about vw now...which is the difference at polo livery between Latvala -Ogier?

ps no beers for the winner.

Thanks, didn`t know that, still think that VW could try a litlle harder to difference both cars...

[Mintexmemory]

Thanks, didn`t know that, still think that VW could try a litlle harder to difference both cars...

Give it time, lots of guys on this forum think JML's car will have significantly altered bodywork soon!

[dimviii]

no working splits?

[Zeropt]

Give it time, lots of guys on this forum think JML's car will have significantly altered bodywork soon!

lol

[stefanvv]

Citroën Racing ‏@CitroenRacing (https://twitter.com/CitroenRacing)
Action will resume at 14h50 with SS8 (Labatie d'Andaure 2). All WRCs are once again fitted with 6 studded tyres


i am very curious to know how many studded they have left....

After SS7 Loeb's stubs were untouched. I guess some reuse them

[satukata]

twitter Seb Marshall ‏@sebmarshall
St Bonnet still covered the whole way through, can't see the road at all in some places -36minutes

[dimviii]

Seb Marshall ‏@sebmarshall (https://twitter.com/sebmarshall)
Finally ss10 much clearer in first half, still lots of ice and crap pulled out in cuts in 2nd half. Will be run @ sundown - big challenge.

[satukata]

Seb Marshall ‏@sebmarshall
Stage 8, slightly warmer - now only -6C. Clear of snow / definite line through it on 70% of stage, final few km still covered.

[bluuford]

I was thinking something slightly different. Would it be an advantage to remove some new studs from a new tyre, then replace them later to give the tyre 'a second life'? The regulations don't permit teams to alter the tyre's profile (i.e. add grooves), but I wonder if stud removal and replacement is permitted by the teams or by the tyre supplier?

It is not possible to put studs back on the tyre.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ha, ha, attitude from Ogier ! :D

"Because it has never been the plan and will never be the plan...I don't care about Loeb, he is not doing the Championship."

[stefanvv]

Ha, ha, attitude from Ogier ! :D

"Because it has never been the plan and will never be the plan...I don't care about Loeb, he is not doing the Championship."

Yes, he said that already yesterday

[dimviii]

Ha, ha, attitude from Ogier ! :D

"Because it has never been the plan and will never be the plan...I don't care about Loeb, he is not doing the Championship."

lol

[Formaldehyde]

Ogier is the kind of guy who can't fathom the possibility of someone being better than him. Everyone can see through his "I don't care" BS.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

JML struggling again ... 10 sec off team-mate Ogier this stage.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Novikov over-cautious on the tarmac to save the tyres - will push on the next stage. :)

[Zeropt]

Ha, ha, attitude from Ogier ! http://www.motorsportforums.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

"Because it has never been the plan and will never be the plan...I don't care about Loeb, he is not doing the Championship."

It`s called charisma, and Ogier has lots of it! :)

[MAXLD]

Ha, ha, attitude from Ogier ! :D

"Because it has never been the plan and will never be the plan...I don't care about Loeb, he is not doing the Championship."

Hehehe, they ask about Loeb in every stage, he's getting really annoyed by it. XD But he's right, being at that position in VW's first rally it's very impressive... would be nonsense to risk everything to catch a "part-time" contender this year.

Btw, rally radio sound quality/reliability kind of sucks today, been failling all the time. :\

[BDunnell]

Ogier is the kind of guy who can't fathom the possibility of someone being better than him. Everyone can see through his "I don't care" BS.

In this case, it's surely a sensible attitude to have, isn't it? After all, Loeb isn't doing the full season, so — unless that changes — why should he care about him?

[Kielder]

Sordo takes a breath here. The podium position could be a great start for him.

[Francis44]

Ogier is the kind of guy who can't fathom the possibility of someone being better than him. Everyone can see through his "I don't care" BS.

My God..... What a load of BS...... Although I admire Loeb he always was much more arrogant between the lines, Im surprised most of you dont see this. What did you expect?! Ogier to beat Loeb in the first outing of the car?! If that happened it was pretty much cinfirmation Loeb was not that good.

[BDunnell]

Hehehe, they ask about Loeb in every stage, he's getting really annoyed by it. XD But he's right, being at that position in VW's first rally it's very impressive... would be nonsense to risk everything to catch a "part-time" contender this year.

Exactly.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I love to hear some attitude and personality from a driver - there are too many boring robots ...

Well said Ogier ! :)


SS8 (19,08km):
1 Loeb 13.10,1 - 2 Sordo +2,8 3 Ogier +8,4 - 4 Mikko +13,0 - 5 Nov +16,8 - 6 JML +20,0 - 7 Mads +24,7

[Martin Luijk]

Ha, ha, attitude from Ogier ! :D

"Because it has never been the plan and will never be the plan...I don't care about Loeb, he is not doing the Championship."

I remember a "there is some justice in this sport" after Loeb picked up an puncture in Germany, two years ago. That guy must hate Loeb very much and it's not over yet. No one is driving an full year in an S2000 without a very good reason.

[Formaldehyde]

What did you expect?! Ogier to beat Loeb in the first outing of the car?!

Obviously I don't expect Ogier to beat Loeb. What bothers me is Ogier's attitude. Instead of choosing wiser words such as "Loeb's result won't affect our championship plans", he chooses to act like a spoiled brat with his "I don't care" talk. It's especially ridiculous when you can sense in his voice that he is in fact greatly disturbed by the fact that someone else is ahead of him.

[amilk]

It`s called charisma, and Ogier has lots of it! :)

Practically Ogier is right - he must focus to championshiop. But he said with this BS that he can drive quicker just don't want. Not a sportman's style , I don't call it charisma. If someone quicker than he always want's to explaine.

[Kielder]

Sordo starting to descend the Col de la Fayolle yesterday:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaY2GOP8h2U

Bouffier at the same place: Rally di Montecarlo 2013 Bouffier high speed passage. - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4te3awh7cak)

[A FONDO]

I remember a "there is some justice in this sport" after Loeb picked up an puncture in Germany

That was pointed at Cit WRT management, not loeb personally!

[Miika]

22 Pistepirkko @ radio, whatta..

[Kielder]

I believe that the photo showing the damage on Latvala's car after hitting a pole at SS5 wasn't posted here:

http://static.onpeliculas.net/images/online/mp/12469_full.jpg

[Mirek]

My God..... What a load of BS...... Although I admire Loeb he always was much more arrogant between the lines, Im surprised most of you dont see this. What did you expect?! Ogier to beat Loeb in the first outing of the car?! If that happened it was pretty much cinfirmation Loeb was not that good.

You missed the point...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Instead of choosing wiser words such as "Loeb's result won't affect our championship plans"

And be yet another boring corporate driver ... :rolleyes:

[uranium]

So, from now on everyody just cruising to keep their place?

[Mintexmemory]

It's interesting how divided opinions are regarding Seb O. However, the fact that he gives fairly comprehensive answers to questions asked and replied to, not in his native language, means that often his emphasis may be mistaken or those hearing him, especially those for whom english is also not their 1st language, may put their own interpretations to support their pre-conceptions. What he said is a long way from Je m'en balance (English equivalent, 'I don't give a monkey's') which would easily slip out if he were even mildly fed up with the line of question. What I heard was a matter of fact answer to a deliberately provocative question (all journos know the history). Nothing in what Seb O said can be interpreted as 'unsportsmanlike', brusque at worst.

[Kielder]

If he survives it isn't that cold...

Seb Marshall ‏@sebmarshall (https://twitter.com/sebmarshall) Some strange sights observed when out doing ice note crew, never as odd as this though! He must be a bit cold!!

http://i49.tinypic.com/2r23jvo.jpg

[Mirek]

So, from now on everyody just cruising to keep their place?

240 km of stages left, very hard weather expected for last leg. More and more problems with tyres to come too.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Novikov is back on it in SS9 ... :D

[Francis44]

You missed the point...

I dont think I did. I am just surprised at how easily Ogier gets jumped at in this forum.

[EightGear]

The mad Russian found the throttle again. :cool:

[eestlane]

Crazy speed by Novikov on this stage. Seems he is going to pass Sordo if he continious.

[Mirek]

If he survives it isn't that cold...

Seb Marshall ‏@sebmarshall (https://twitter.com/sebmarshall) Some strange sights observed when out doing ice note crew, never as odd as this though! He must be a bit cold!!

It's bactrian camel, those are used to cold weather living in Kazakhstan, north India or China.

[stefanvv]

..."Loeb's result won't affect our championship plans"...

That's too many words in English :D

EDIT: Mintexmemory explained it scientifically.

[Kielder]

Novikov is coming very fast.

[EightGear]

Evgeny, Evgeny, Evgeny... :D

[Fast Eddie WRC]

First official vid from this morning:

Rallye Monte-Carlo: Stage 5-7 ::: Free Sport Live Streams / Videos (http://www.laola1.tv/en/int/motorsports/wrc/rallye-monte-carlo-stage-5-7/video/492-2978-108898.html)

[Frostmourne]

I wish Novi take out Ogier... lets see what he gonna say then.. I guess something, he is from Russia..they used to drive in such roads!!! What an attitude!

[Kielder]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWH--Cs3ows&feature=player_embedded

[eestlane]

No hanninen splits :O

[vino_93]

Ostberg out ? No more splits :/

Edit : ah only mistakes from wrc.com ...

[Rally Talent]

No hanninen splits :O

This is painful... :mad:

[Teme]

Ostberg out ? No more splits :/
Östberg in finish. 4th fastest

[Kielder]

First official vid from this morning:

Rallye Monte-Carlo: Stage 5-7 ::: Free Sport Live Streams / Videos (http://www.laola1.tv/en/int/motorsports/wrc/rallye-monte-carlo-stage-5-7/video/492-2978-108898.html)

It was posted here before. Only the narration is from this morning.

[EightGear]

Already more than 3 hours of driving in total, after just 9 stages!

[EightGear]

Juhhoooooooooo!!!!

[satukata]

Juho nro 1!!!

[eestlane]

Massive time from juho

[Rally Talent]

This is painful... :mad:

But it was worth it!!!! Great work Juho!

[ChristianArp]

Juhhoooooooooo!!!!

You beat me to it! Aaaargh!
JUHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[Miika]

Malcolm, pay attention.

[rage82]

Juho fastest in the stage. He really deserve's it!
" It's the only stage where we can use the potential of the car "

[rp]

First ever fastest SS time for Juho Hänninen. Finally! It took some time...

[Kielder]

No more splits :/


This is painful... :mad:

Exceptions are now the general rule now. Don't worry about it.

[Jerra]

Juhhoooooooooo!!!!

Yeeeessssssss!!!

[stefanvv]

Looks like battle is forming beween the Finns :)

[Rallyper]

Beating Hirvonen and JML with 30-40 secs is really impressive. Juho is really doing well.

[Mintexmemory]

Juho nro 1!!!

Looks like Mikko is about to lose 'leading Finn' status one way or another - maybe even dropping to 3rd!!