Rallye Wrc Monte-Carlo 2013

[tommeke_B]

Where are the photos from the other Ford-drivers in overall? No matter how little the difference, by uploading photos on facebook fanpages and Twitter on regular basis, they are giving the sponsors some exposure they would not have if they wouldn't do it... There is some reason why Neuville has more personal sponsors than others... Thierry knows how to make himself popular, and maybe that also takes part in the reason why Qatar/M-Sport chose Neuville in stead of Tänak? ;)

But indeed, if Thierry had taken a normal photo and uploaded that, it would have been perfect.

[Mintexmemory]

Cool down, I'm not attacking him, just wondering why he is taking bathroom-mirror-pictures that I usually only see when I''m accidently logged in on my sisters facebook. :D
At least he hasn't got his finger on his cheek doing a pout like a typical Brit addo girl (arrrgh stepdaughter!!!!)

[Mintexmemory]

What I want to know is - has Thierry started using contacts or has he had laser correction?

[Mad cat jnr]

He wore glasses on recce, so guess he uses contacts?

[Mintexmemory]

He wore glasses on recce, so guess he uses contacts?

Zehr danke

[Plan9]

Will Mikko have Red Bull on his helmet? I think Nasser will have it too.

[tolis]

http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/74298_513635498681113_1214995537_n.jpg

[dimviii]

livery has grown on me
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/422179_10151391064210733_800831521_n.jpg

[Mad cat jnr]

I have to say, I love both fords and Citroen's livery! Think VW is boring though

[Co-driven]

http://distilleryimage0.instagram.com/94b44d4e5e6511e2a97322000a1fb158_7.jpg


Sorry if this is a bit off-topic, but is it allowed to have those patches (Red Bull and Monroe) on the fireproof suit? They were put there after the suit was 'closed'.

I'm asking that because recently I heard that on the last Rally dos Sertões here in Brazil, the officials told that the suits with those 'patches' wouldn't be allowed to be used on the race.

[Jafry]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1115/1115_rally_monte_carlo_2013_526f7deec0.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1115/1115_rally_monte_carlo_2013_6f696000b3.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1115/1115_rally_monte_carlo_2013_0740464382.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1115/1115_rally_monte_carlo_2013_f0962e4548.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1115/1115_rally_monte_carlo_2013_b5f73273c5.jpg

More photos from Monte HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1115)

[jbmarcus21]

Gallery [PHOTO] Service Park
http://planetemarcus.com/service-park-rallye-wrc-monte-carlo-2013/

[Mad cat jnr]

Sorry if this is a bit off-topic, but is it allowed to have those patches (Red Bull and Monroe) on the fireproof suit? They were put there after the suit was 'closed'.

I'm asking that because recently I heard that on the last Rally dos Sertões here in Brazil, the officials told that the suits with those 'patches' wouldn't be allowed to be used on the race.

Yes they are allowed as long as fireproof thread is used to sew them on, and it only goes through the top layer of nomex :)

[6789]

Is the shakedown stage representative of the overall rally stages at all?

[Mintexmemory]

Is the shakedown stage representative of the overall rally stages at all?
In as much as being icy snow covered tarmac yes.
Given the absence of gradients / epingles / villages to blast through (cowcrap here and there) - Non

[Kielder]

:heart:
http://www.almrally.ru/imageModul/foto/44114/44149.jpg

M-Sport team :p
http://www.almrally.ru/imageModul/foto/44114/44118.jpg

[dimviii]

@Jafry

waiting for detailed engine photos from polo. :D

[pucky54]

@Jafry

waiting for detailed engine photos from polo. :D
http://www.rallysport.hu/images/2013/photo/wrc/01_monte/01_service/images/RSHU_Photo_013_jpg.jpg

[vkangas]

Is there some live streaming of MTV Max?
Previously there hasn't been any as it's a local pay service. Maybe trough some nasty proxy if you manage to pay it :) .

[Juha_Koo]

I'm getting very excited, soon it starts! :)

[dimviii]

http://www.rallysport.hu/images/2013/photo/wrc/01_monte/01_service/images/RSHU_Photo_013_jpg.jpg

moooooooore detailed :p

[dupanton]

Is there a qualifying stage? I don't think so, because it is a tarmac rally, but I'm not sure. It could be crucial for this rally!

[stefanvv]

Is there a qualifying stage? I don't think so, because it is a tarmac rally, but I'm not sure. It could be crucial for this rally!

No QS here. Sweden yes.

[Xsara Fan]

Photogallery from service park (http://www.almrally.ru/novosti-wrc/info/9762/)

[dimviii]

Μikko at recce

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=653HLtpjnlc

[dimviii]

Bouffier

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=aG2Ssd0tt14

[dimviii]

Loeb

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dTpAmZN9wj8

[stefanvv]

Bouffier

Sordo is pretty quick at the recce. Boufier should know these roads better :)

[dimviii]

@Jafry

waiting for detailed engine photos from polo. :D

also a closer photo from Fiestas front and rear struts.New shocks for Monte seems.

[tolis]

Finally No 27 for Vallario?

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/285052_10200263375417526_1369389569_n.jpg

[dimviii]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DPVxdoOZ_E4

[dimviii]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/394843_4835919467452_177676649_n.jpg

[Nelly]

Epic photo, I can't wait!!

[tolis]

Peugeot 208 R2 WRC debut...

http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/165082_464348963628228_951652674_n.jpg

Good luck to the Greek crew Drivakos-Bante!

http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/59967_464118500317941_1084656418_n.jpg

[PLuto]

Finally No 27 for Vallario?

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/285052_10200263375417526_1369389569_n.jpg

I am surprised too...

[danon]

Here's to the title, guys...

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/4327/23788080.jpg

[spiderem]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/394843_4835919467452_177676649_n.jpg
Just to confirm, is it the mechanic who drive the car?
As the first guy doesn't really look like Mikko.
I have to agree, great shot!
Can't wait for the start of the rally and hopefully loads of snow and action!

[spiderem]

Is mikkelsen doing the recce for next year, or is he gravel crew for somebody?

[bluuford]

Number on the side of the car means that he was doing recce as well. Maybe ice crew also, but maybe just a weather "reporter" on the stage.Snowfall started earlier and it has been snowing since around 05:30 and still continues.

[6789]

Colin Clark is reporting on Twitter that it is full snow conditions for shakedown :D

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BAoVyPBCAAA8lrE.jpg

[dupanton]

Just to confirm, is it the mechanic who drive the car?
As the first guy doesn't really look like Mikko.
I have to agree, great shot!
Can't wait for the start of the rally and hopefully loads of snow and action!

Normally it is the job for one of the main mechanics yes.

[Prisoner Monkeys]

Is mikkelsen doing the recce for next year, or is he gravel crew for somebody?
It makes sense that he would do it - it would help him fit into the team while they get up and running, start building relationships with the mechanics and gravel crews and engineers so that when it comes time for his first event in Portugal, he is comfortable working with them and they are comfortable working with him.

[GigiGalliNo1]

Loeb is on Shakedown stage now.

[HarriK]

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/20130115_082857.jpg

[tommeke_B]

Anyone knows if there are online results for the shakedown?

[tommeke_B]

http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/424542_10200329150010042_1574771219_n.jpg :)

[HarriK]

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Forum-Rallye/179723155373641

[DVSGTR]

Can't wait for this Rally to start. It is stink though because it is not on New Zealand TV.

[HarriK]

video from fb:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10200329154250148&set=vb.1193156939&type=2&theater

[Rally Hokkaido]

Early days yet, but J-M's Polo doesn't seem to be lacking speed compared with the opposition ;-)

[tommeke_B]

Quentin Gilbert does not start :( He lost his driving license... He was caught speeding last week.

[Mirek]

Quentin Gilbert does not start :( He lost his driving license... He was caught speeding last week.

Vigion story vol.2? :(

[had_zachau]

Are that proper times?

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/555361_471376926257079_2024164340_n.jpg

[Mirek]

To me it looks like Juho wanted to try tyres with spikes as he didn't test on them unlike others. The rest in my opinion was saving tyres.

[Rally Hokkaido]

I don't think so. It is 3.21.0 on Forum.-Rallye

Are that proper times?

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/555361_471376926257079_2024164340_n.jpg

[had_zachau]

Rally Hokkaido: I know, so i asked

[Rally Hokkaido]

OK, we have to wait for times to be updated to see if Juho was indeed on spike tyres or not.

Edit: now updated to 3. 02.2 and Bouffier 3.0.0 !

[MartijnS]

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/valence-monte-carlo-2013/mg_9061.jpg

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/valence-monte-carlo-2013/mg_9090.jpg

[HarriK]

it is right time:
Now bouffier 3.00

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/405997_559477714064848_1370412678_n.jpg

[had_zachau]

OK, we have to wait for times to be updated to see if Juho was indeed on spike tyres or not.

Edit: now updated to 3. 02.2 and Bouffier 3.0.0 !

Its confirmed on Prokops fb, prokop 3:08

[tommeke_B]

Vigion story vol.2? :(
We'll see how it turns out. Anyway it's not good for his reputation, especially towards FFSA. How could a federation justify the support to a driver who is not behaving well in normal traffic? (Not my question, but that is a question that "anti-people" could ask...)

[Mad cat jnr]

Quentin Gilbert does not start :( He lost his driving license... He was caught speeding last week.

How long is the ban? Is that his citroen top driver attempt over?

[Mad cat jnr]

it is right time:
Now bouffier 3.00

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/405997_559477714064848_1370412678_n.jpg

Well do to Kosciuszko too!

Ogier way off Latvala's pace if both on same tyres.

[Kielder]

(Provisional)



Bouffier (DS3 WRC) 3’00’0[/*:m:1zdcqjv3]
Prokop (Fiesta WRC) 3’08’0[/*:m:1zdcqjv3]
Kosciuszko (Mini WRC) 3’10’0[/*:m:1zdcqjv3]
Latvala (Polo WRC) 3’11’6[/*:m:1zdcqjv3]
Sordo (DS3 WRC) 3’13’8[/*:m:1zdcqjv3]
Loeb (DS3 WRC) 3’15’6[/*:m:1zdcqjv3]
Hirvonen (DS3 WRC) 3’16’3[/*:m:1zdcqjv3]
Hänninen (Fiesta WRC) 3’21’0[/*:m:1zdcqjv3]
Ostberg (Fiesta WRC) 3’29’0[/*:m:1zdcqjv3]
Novikov (Fiesta WRC) 3’29’0[/*:m:1zdcqjv3]
Ogier (Polo WRC) 3’31’0[/*:m:1zdcqjv3]
Neuville (Fiesta WRC) 3’39’0[/*:m:1zdcqjv3]

[Kielder]

Now Bouffier 02:54 on his third run.

[had_zachau]

Any information about tyre choise?

[Mirek]

(Provisional)



Bouffier (DS3 WRC) 3’00’0[/*:m:2dgm6soi]
Prokop (Fiesta WRC) 3’08’0[/*:m:2dgm6soi]
Kosciuszko (Mini WRC) 3’10’0[/*:m:2dgm6soi]
Latvala (Polo WRC) 3’11’6[/*:m:2dgm6soi]
Sordo (DS3 WRC) 3’13’8[/*:m:2dgm6soi]
Loeb (DS3 WRC) 3’15’6[/*:m:2dgm6soi]
Hirvonen (DS3 WRC) 3’16’3[/*:m:2dgm6soi]
Hänninen (Fiesta WRC) 3’21’0[/*:m:2dgm6soi]
Ostberg (Fiesta WRC) 3’29’0[/*:m:2dgm6soi]
Novikov (Fiesta WRC) 3’29’0[/*:m:2dgm6soi]
Ogier (Polo WRC) 3’31’0[/*:m:2dgm6soi]
Neuville (Fiesta WRC) 3’39’0[/*:m:2dgm6soi]


Hänninen is 3:02,2 already in first run.

[HarriK]

How long is the ban? Is that his citroen top driver attempt over?

3,6km

[Mirek]

3,6km

He was asking about driving ban for Gilbert.

[Kielder]

http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/65873_559483570730929_1580153259_n.jpg


Hänninen is 3:02,2 already in first run.

Yes, it's wrong. It was the only classification I found starting from the fastest. Sorry.

[rage82]

There are streaming now live from the service park: Rally di Montecarlo 2013 on Livestream (http://new.livestream.com/direttarally/montecarlo2013)

[spiderem]

3,6km
i think the question was more about how long his driving license has been suspended.

[spiderem]

There are streaming now live from the service park: Rally di Montecarlo 2013 on Livestream (http://new.livestream.com/direttarally/montecarlo2013)
alala always on the phone those italians!

[noel157]

There are streaming now live from the service park: Rally di Montecarlo 2013 on Livestream (http://new.livestream.com/direttarally/montecarlo2013)

Who is the Italian crew on now?

[Kielder]

There are streaming now live from the service park: Rally di Montecarlo 2013 on Livestream (http://new.livestream.com/direttarally/montecarlo2013)

It's the Italian crew. They are going to broadcast the whole rally live, I hope they can go far. I post this again, they deserve it:

http://i48.tinypic.com/52fiuo.jpg

[logic]

LOL texting and driving

[HarriK]

He was asking about driving ban for Gilbert.

ok, my mistake :D

[noel157]

Thanks, typical Italians, texting and driving........... :) Who are they?

[spiderem]

Thanks, typical Italians, texting and driving........... :) Who are they?
i think there is a post in the forum about 2 days ago

[GigiGalliNo1]

How many times they do shake down? Times are getting quicker and quicker! I guess less snow after driving on stage makes cars quicker!

So the fastest driver chooses road position day 1 first again for 2013?

[noel157]

Last run I think is Q, no?

[EightGear]

Can the tyres that are used on shakedown also he used during the rally? If so, maybe it is wise to spare the studs?

[spiderem]

It's the Italian crew. They are going to broadcast the whole rally live, I hope they can go far. I post this again, they deserve it:

http://i48.tinypic.com/52fiuo.jpg
it's a bloody good idea! although if i was him, i would focus on my driving and remember that any french cop fan of rally (im not) that is watching him, must be chocked by all the infraction to the french road rules!!!

[Hartusvuori]

Last run I think is Q, no?

This is shakedown, not a qualification.

[wrchirek]

Last run I think is Q, no?

There is no qualifying, so it is just a shakedown, starting order will be the seeded order on enrty list.


Can the tyres that are used on shakedown also he used during the rally? If so, maybe it is wise to spare the studs?

Yes they can.

[rage82]

Thanks, typical Italians, texting and driving........... :) Who are they?


97
CALI Gianluca M. (ITA)
http://www.acm.mc/images/ITA.png
CALI Gianluca M.
http://www.acm.mc/images/ITA.png
RACCUIA Sergio
CITROEN C2

[Rally Hokkaido]

As has already been said on this thread a few times, Monte is classed as a tarmac rally so no Q. Priority 1 starting order based on 2012 WRC points ?

[WRC1]

Luca Betti now with Peugeot s2000 2:58!!! the snow seems to be gone....

can be funny results for the rallye itself if the stages improves with every car...maybe one of the top s2000 (lappi..) could make big surprises...

[noel157]

We're about see what the SD is like (as soon as the driver stops texting his mother :) No offence to our Italian friends.

[MartinMK]

Julian Porter:
Evgeny Novikov has just had a slight off road moment in shakedown, up the bank & then back to the road.

[noel157]

We're about see what the SD is like (as soon as the driver stops texting his mother :) No offence to our Italian friends.

No onboard on SD?

[rage82]

No onboard on SD?

Maybe they've tried the streaming for tomorrow?

[vino_93]

Quentin Gilbert does not start :( He lost his driving license... He was caught speeding last week.
stupide guy ... it seems that french drivers in Equipe de France doesn't know that a driving license is important ... last year Romiguières lost his driving license before Rallye de France too. :rolleyes:

[bluuford]

Luca Betti now with Peugeot s2000 2:58!!! the snow seems to be gone....

can be funny results for the rallye itself if the stages improves with every car...maybe one of the top s2000 (lappi..) could make big surprises...

I think that it was like I guessed yesterday. Top drivers were using normal snow tyres for shakedown. They have only 10 studded tyres and forecast says that at least 8 of them are needed tomorrow and another 8 needed on Thursday and another 8 on Friday and probably another 8 on Saturday. Did you followed my calculations? Here it is shortly: 8+8+8+8=10? Right? With some knowledge on math it is easy to understand why they are not using studded tires on shakedown :-)

[Rally Hokkaido]

Sr Cali's service crew are getting p***ed off. They are trying to send him out but he keeps texting to his GF about some misunderstanding at the bar, last night.....

[rage82]

Now it's live

[noel157]

Going by the comments on the page perhaps you have to log in to watch further?

[Mintexmemory]

I think that it was like I guessed yesterday. Top drivers were using normal snow tyres for shakedown. They have only 10 studded tyres and forecast says that at least 8 of them are needed tomorrow and another 8 needed on Thursday and another 8 on Friday and probably another 8 on Saturday. Did you followed my calculations? Here it is shortly: 8+8+8+8=10? Right? With some knowledge on math it is easy to understand why they are not using studded tires on shakedown :-)
Clearly it is going to be a big decision when to use the studs. Taking the gamble on what will be the longest stage with the right conditions to favour them will be crucial. If they use them up in days 1&2 but they might be more use on day 4 then it will be like poker, everyone trying to bluff. I am very excited (always like a kid at the start of a new season) and expect that there will be some surprises

[WRC1]

I think that it was like I guessed yesterday. Top drivers were using normal snow tyres for shakedown. They have only 10 studded tyres and forecast says that at least 8 of them are needed tomorrow and another 8 needed on Thursday and another 8 on Friday and probably another 8 on Saturday. Did you followed my calculations? Here it is shortly: 8+8+8+8=10? Right? With some knowledge on math it is easy to understand why they are not using studded tires on shakedown :-)

you are sure right about the tires, but i am almost sure that also a few factory wrc drives used studded tires at shakedown, on 3,6km shake you can not destroy them...

what i wanted to say is that there are 2 big factors, tires and also road getting better (faster) sure not on the stages with snow/ice but there can be a huge difference in the lower stages

[Rally Hokkaido]

And he's still texting GF about the waitress while lined up for the start of SD, "No, Bambino she is my cousin, I was just thanking her for the meal... I LOVE this reality rally show!
Now it's live

[noel157]

Can anybody give us an idea of the crew's conversation?

[noel157]

Co-driver doing it too? Maybe he is friendly with the GF?

[ChristianArp]

Did he just wedge the phone between his helmet and left ear?? :O

Edit: Nope, there it is again! Impressive work I must say..

[WRC1]

I think that it was like I guessed yesterday. Top drivers were using normal snow tyres for shakedown. They have only 10 studded tyres and forecast says that at least 8 of them are needed tomorrow and another 8 needed on Thursday and another 8 on Friday and probably another 8 on Saturday. Did you followed my calculations? Here it is shortly: 8+8+8+8=10? Right? With some knowledge on math it is easy to understand why they are not using studded tires on shakedown :-)

the word from martin prokop after shake....nothing about the tires, but the road changes:

Shakedown done. I had 4 good runs. The stage was improving from run to run so you can not really rely on the results :-)

[tommeke_B]

stupide guy ... it seems that french drivers in Equipe de France doesn't know that a driving license is important ... last year Romiguières lost his driving license before Rallye de France too. :rolleyes:

Yes, pitty... Also Arzeno and Consani are not starting (no budget). A press release about Gilbert will follow later, when I see it I'll post some short translation of it here.

[noel157]

As somebody commented, if he sends a text mid corner it'll be impressive... :)

[Kielder]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/385364_4838112482276_58889840_n.jpg

[alleskids]

As somebody commented, if he sends a text mid corner it'll be impressive... :)

is he competing in the 2013 WRC or the WTC (world texting championship)? :)

[ChristianArp]

They are obviously following the stream as well, they just celebrated 1053 watching..
Fun, but weird at the same time..

[Bartek]

This crew from Italy is amazing! Look FIA - this is what we want!

[GigiGalliNo1]

Exactly!!!! I would pay for this service! The French would do it!

[Prisoner Monkeys]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/385364_4838112482276_58889840_n.jpg
I know the livery is unpopular, but the Citroens look great in the snow.

[Kielder]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KMsVyXR97FQ

[Kielder]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkTCwoeTj5k&feature=player_embedded

[Kielder]

How many times are we going to see a VW doing this for the next days?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Lw6inZq1uo&feature=player_embedded

[spiderem]

i don't want snow at shakedown, i want snow tomorrow, thursday friday and saturday!!!
the trickier the better!!!

[Kielder]

Half an hour ago...

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/431305_326079880841203_1765455421_n.jpg

P.S. The user who uploaded Sordo and Latvala videos, has uploaded some more (Ostberg and Neuville until now): nicolas pernin (http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0P1xz4htbwXjooJ0CcqUPg?feature=watch)

[Mirek]

i don't want snow at shakedown, i want snow tomorrow, thursday friday and saturday!!!
the trickier the better!!!

You will be satisfied. Snow on stages is granted.

[vino_93]

yes, there's lot of snow in France since this night. And if it stops here in the North, it will continue in Ardèche all the long of the rally !

[HarriK]

How many times are we going to see a VW doing this for the next days?


twice.. not going to continue after second one? :)

[irish_tiger]

Yes, pitty... Also Arzeno and Consani are not starting (no budget). A press release about Gilbert will follow later, when I see it I'll post some short translation of it here.


Quentin Gilbert does not start :( He lost his driving license... He was caught speeding last week.


stupide guy ... it seems that french drivers in Equipe de France doesn't know that a driving license is important ... last year Romiguières lost his driving license before Rallye de France too. :rolleyes:

Could someone from France explain , is it that if you are excessively speeding that your licence is taken off you or do you only have to be a small bit over the speed limit ? like how much over the speed limt was Vigon and now Gilbert for the police to take their licences ?

[rallye-sport]

Update shakedown by Arnaud -> Photos Rallye Monte-Carlo 2013 (http://www.rallye-sport.fr/photos-rallye-monte-carlo-2013/)

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/valence-monte-carlo-2013/mg_9181.jpg


http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/valence-monte-carlo-2013/mg_9061.jpg


http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/valence-monte-carlo-2013/img_9181.jpg

[Mirek]

Could someone from France explain , is it that if you are excessively speeding that your licence is taken off you or do you only have to be a small bit over the speed limit ? like how much over the speed limt was Vigon and now Gilbert for the police to take their licences ?

I don't know Gilbert but with Vigion it was a lot. If I remember something like 100 km/h over limit.

[Kielder]

Top 10: Loeb (2'28), Ogier (2'30''5), Neuville, Latvala, Sordo, Novikov, Ostberg, Kostka, Hirvonen and Hänninen.

http://www.autohebdo.fr/rallye/wrc/breve-26-1-40691/150113-monte-carlo-les-seb-sont-la

[Mintexmemory]

twice.. not going to continue after second one? :)

Interesting that contrary to the stereotype it was Ogier over-cooking (hardly a 'crash') and not 'Dangerous' JML.

[bennizw]

It seems to have become some kind of trend for WRC-photographers to photoshop in extreme saturated gradients for the sky. Keep it real instead!

[Mirek]

Interesting that contrary to the stereotype it was Ogier over-cooking (hardly a 'crash') and not 'Dangerous' JML.

He went off where and when he could afford to try limits. The point is not to go over them in the real rally...

[rallye-sport]

Update Shakedown by Hugo Photos Rallye Monte-Carlo 2013 (http://www.rallye-sport.fr/photos-rallye-monte-carlo-2013/)

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/valence-monte-carlo-2013/img_4981.jpg


http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/valence-monte-carlo-2013/img_4976.jpg


http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/valence-monte-carlo-2013/img_4690.jpg

[rjbetty]

I think I must be one of the few who prefers the official Citroen livery to the previous one. The fact that it's more red than blue just makes it look more 'Citroeny' to me (though I still think their 2001-02 livery was the best - before Telefonica blue was added, and retained even when the sponsor left!) I also don't really mind the M-Sport burgundy, though I think they could have come up with something a little better.

Thanks for posting the shakedown. The VWs are looking pdq. I haven't expected much in my pickems from them (just 7th for Latvala). I must say I have more excitement for this season than I've had for a while.

[Kielder]

Neuville, the fastest (2'26"1): Neuville meilleur temps du shakedown - RTBF Moteurs (http://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/rallye/detail_neuville-meilleur-temps-du-shakedown?id=7907907)

[AP-Racing]

Итоговые результаты

Neuville (Fiesta WRC) 2’26’1
Loeb (DS3 WRC) 2’28’7
Novikov (Fiesta WRC) 2’28’8
Hirvonen (DS3 WRC) 2’29’4
Latvala (Polo WRC) 2’30’4
Ogier (Polo WRC) 2’30’5
Sordo (DS3 WRC) 2’31’8
Ostberg (Fiesta WRC) 2’32’9

[HarriK]

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/6264/dsc0064ir.jpg

studs:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/545246_435337836534139_2021740513_n.jpg

[uranium]

10.
Juho Hänninen-Mikko Markkula
FIN
Ford Fiesta RS WRC
2:38.7

[HarriK]

12. Lappi Skoda 2.40,3

[Jafry]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1115/1115_rally_monte_carlo_2013_192a2fc62b.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1115/1115_rally_monte_carlo_2013_413a9b20ec.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1115/1115_rally_monte_carlo_2013_5ef4cfb07d.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1115/1115_rally_monte_carlo_2013_81757c4ad0.jpg

More photos from shake HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1115)

[satukata]

Conditions changed so much that we have to wait tomorrow to see who will be fast and who not. Thierry Neuville can be very fast but big risk for offroad in hard conditions

[Kielder]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKKYC9CMep0

More videos in the channel. For example, some problems for Al-Ketbi: Monte Carlo 2013 shakedown skoda - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiE8EeV8yD8)

[Hartusvuori]

Not all the top crews were on studded Michelin tyres for the first pair of runs, however. All the Citroën runners had chosen the tiny metal tips, for example, as did Skoda’s (sic) Latvala and Ford’s Hanninen, but Ogier, Ostberg, Novikov and Neuville went out on snow tyres. For the second visit later in the morning, the Citroëns remained on studs, Latvala switched to snow tyres, Ogier tried studs, and all the Ford drivers opted for Michelin snow tyres.

Taken from: A snowy start to 2013 (http://en.best-of-rallylive.com/Bestofrallylive/News/A-snowy-start-to-2013)

[Kielder]

http://planetemarcus.com/wordpress/wp-content/gallery/mc13/2921.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/1199_584705044878655_348322406_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/408733_584704998211993_1743998542_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/148954_584704971545329_1589157957_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/424458_584705054878654_1496780538_n.jpg

[Mad cat jnr]

Ford have saved all their studs then?

Isnt it compulsory for Priority 1 drivers to do shakedown? So you couldnt skip it and save tyres?

[MartijnS]

It seems to have become some kind of trend for WRC-photographers to photoshop in extreme saturated gradients for the sky. Keep it real instead!

I think he used a gradient filter? Does it a lot.
Something like this probably..http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4087/5199486872_5202842cb0_z.jpg

But I agree..keep it real.

[Mirek]

As for the liveries I like most the ones of Maurin and Prokop. Citroën isn't bad but M-Sport looks awful. VW wouldn't be so bad for me if they used white rims.

[Mirek]

Tomáš Kostka 2:37,4.

[rage82]

10.
Juho Hänninen-Mikko Markkula
FIN
Ford Fiesta RS WRC
2:38.7




Juho is now co-driven by Tomi Tuominen - just for the records :)

[uranium]

Correct, I took it from Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=14795) and didn't notice.

[satukata]

EsaPekka Lappi said tyres, which their class cars use, is much worse than tyres wrc cars use?

Suomalainen rallilupaus: WRC-autojen haastaminen pakko unohtaa - MTV3.fi - Urheilu - Ralli - Uutiset (http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/ralli/uutiset.shtml/2013/01/1690456/suomalainen-rallilupaus-wrc-autojen-haastaminen-pakko-unohtaa)

[Bartek]

Kostka used tyres with studs, yes?

[dimviii]

http://www.ledauphine.com/fr/images/0CCC877A-374F-4BC4-A2CD-FF52A0193D2C/LDL_06/du-rouge-et-du-blanc-couleurs-monegasques-chez-citroen-dans-le-petit-matin-a-valence-photo-le.jpghttps://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/65875_454315607951546_1035882974_n.jpghttp://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/205854_454315631284877_1950460302_n.jpg

[dimviii]

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/5697/dsc0042ev.jpghttp://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photos/rallye_monte_carlo_2013/ade_29.jpghttp://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photos/rallye_monte_carlo_2013/ade_28.jpg

[dimviii]

the new overalls for Citroen

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/7484/dsc0022qui.jpg

what happened? lol
http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/7404/dsc0050uh.jpg

[Xsara Fan]

Info from service-park:

1. Neuville 2:26.1
2. Loeb 2:28.7
3. Novikov 2:28.8
4. Hirvonen 2:29.4
5. Latvala 2:30.4
6. Ogier 2:30.5
7. Sordo 2:31.8
8. Ostberg 2:32.9
9. Kostka 2:37.4
10. Wiegand 2:37.5
11. Hanninen

[satukata]

http://www.ledauphine.com/fr/images/0CCC877A-374F-4BC4-A2CD-FF52A0193D2C/LDL_06/du-rouge-et-du-blanc-couleurs-monegasques-chez-citroen-dans-le-petit-matin-a-valence-photo-le.jpghttps://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/65875_454315607951546_1035882974_n.jpghttp://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/205854_454315631284877_1950460302_n.jpg

Ogier two times offroad in shakedown... how many times in rally..twice/day :D

[Rich705]

What happend to Bouffier?

[Bartek]

I think he drove 4 times before other crews

[HarriK]

One photo about Ford suspension:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/398118_584705058211987_1869688992_n.jpg

[Kielder]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BAp5YKGCcAIRj_n.jpg:large

If you see a Citroen's guy, you'll know if he's a driver or a co-driver.

[PLuto]

Juho is now co-driven by Tomi Tuominen - just for the records :)

Mikko was codriving Juho for many years, so when I was writing the results, I wrote him automatically as codriver for Juho. But I have corrected it.

[amilk]

Ogier two times offroad in shakedown... how many times in rally..twice/day :D

The main challenge for Ogier will be himself this year. In the past if was difficult to handle for him when he was beaten (especially by team mate).

[Kielder]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WQkuna79-A&feature=player_embedded

[Kielder]

http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/734331_10151231625522057_927110361_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/14851_532789786755840_1447663023_n.jpg
http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/408375_10151231625317057_2110163032_n.jpg

[vino_93]

Could someone from France explain , is it that if you are excessively speeding that your licence is taken off you or do you only have to be a small bit over the speed limit ? like how much over the speed limt was Vigon and now Gilbert for the police to take their licences ?

We can lose our driving license by two ways :
1/ it's the 3rd or 4th time that we lose small points (we have 12 points) - so then our driving license doesn't have point, and we can't drive.
2/ we do an excessively speeding. 40 km/h up to the speed limit the driving license is suspending by the police during 72h maximum.
Then, if the judge want to punish you (if the speed is too high), you can have various thing, as a suspension or a lost of the license.

I don't know for Gilbert how high was the excess. It seems it's a excessively speed, but not during the recce or something which has to see with the rally. It happened last week.

For Vigion, he was taken at 126km/h, whereas the limit was 50 km/h (limitation in city). And there's a gap btw the speed selected by the police and the real speed, something like 10km/h under ...

[stefanvv]

The main challenge for Ogier will be himself this year. In the past if was difficult to handle for him when he was beaten (especially by team mate).

What do you want from the man? He was driving S2000 whole year :D

[PLuto]

Start list into first leg is ready - Rallye Monte Carlo 2013 - Start order - leg 1 - Rally-Base (http://rally-base.com/2013/rallye-monte-carlo-2013/start-list/?startTimeTypeId=270)

[rjbetty]

Flippin 'eck! I've just realised it's 10 years since the start of the 2003 season!! I remember following the Monte so clearly on the 'net at college since I didn't have it at home. Now that was a season I anticipated and enjoyed!

Dear FIA: Please bring back 3 cars for those who want them. I don't think it's a coincidence that that's how things were in the glory days. And never make dumb rules again, especially if they force out the famous drivers that bring the fans in.

[Mintexmemory]

The main challenge for Ogier will be himself this year. In the past if was difficult to handle for him when he was beaten (especially by team mate).
Actually it was difficult for him to handle being prevented from competing on level terms with his team mate as his team mate wasn't about to have the young pup upset his apple cart! I think VW will benefit from the clear mutual respect Seb and JML have for each other

[Fri]

some pics from the shakedown:
rallysport.hu - Monte Carlo Rallye 2013 - shakedown (http://www.rallysport.hu/images/2013/photo/wrc/01_monte/02_shakedown/index.htm)

[Mirek]

EsaPekka Lappi said tyres, which their class cars use, is much worse than tyres wrc cars use?

Suomalainen rallilupaus: WRC-autojen haastaminen pakko unohtaa - MTV3.fi - Urheilu - Ralli - Uutiset (http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/ralli/uutiset.shtml/2013/01/1690456/suomalainen-rallilupaus-wrc-autojen-haastaminen-pakko-unohtaa)

Page 16 of supplementary regulations: http://www.autosport.cz/zavody/soubor.php?f=13908

Very strange that all Michelin tyres are different for WRC cars and the rest. DMacks are all same for everybody.

[jolle1982]

some pictures of a friend are online!!!

http://www.rallyefreaks.de/images/samgallery/full/m11_1358269320.jpg

http://www.rallyefreaks.de/images/samgallery/full/m3_1358269326.jpg

http://www.rallyefreaks.de/images/samgallery/full/m4_1358269326.jpg

<<< Fotos Rally Monte Carlo 2013 >>> (http://www.rallyefreaks.de/index.php?option=com_samgallery&catid=147%3Arally-monte-carlo&Itemid=2)

[mousti]

Like always a nice video

Shakedown - 2013 WRC Rallye Monte-Carlo - Best-of-RallyLive.com - YouTube (http://youtu.be/J5D5PPOC4Mo)

[danon]

Those drivers portraits on the VW truck scare me ... Not good idea from designer

It can be even scarier... :D

http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/6499/91749149.jpg

[HaCo]

Looking forward to tomorrow! Hoping for not to big dramas from the start.

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[HaCo]

Who need tv coverage? ;-)

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[Mise]

Like always a nice video

Shakedown - 2013 WRC Rallye Monte-Carlo - Best-of-RallyLive.com - YouTube (http://youtu.be/J5D5PPOC4Mo)

3:20 Loeb spins. My godness, he even spins fast! :D

[bluuford]

Like always a nice video

Shakedown - 2013 WRC Rallye Monte-Carlo - Best-of-RallyLive.com - YouTube (http://youtu.be/J5D5PPOC4Mo)

Nice donut by Loeb :-)

[dimviii]

Start list into first leg is ready - Rallye Monte Carlo 2013 - Start order - leg 1 - Rally-Base (http://rally-base.com/2013/rallye-monte-carlo-2013/start-list/?startTimeTypeId=270)

do we know Pluto if the morning stages are covered by enough snow? Maybe Loeb starts with disadvantage deing first on road.

[noel157]

Poor spectator control judging by the clips and images. Fans 10 metres away from the cars on the outside of a corner. Not good.

[Mirek]

That's nothing new in RMC and believe me that shakedown is the most controlled of the whole rally. It's the only stage where marshals are present over whole length. Otherwise there are even kilometers without them.

[rallyfiend]

Same old Rallye Monte Carlo then!

[dimviii]

straight in junction for Ogier and Latvala

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=S0bTl6nIkCw

[bluuford]

do we know Pluto if the morning stages are covered by enough snow? Maybe Loeb starts with disadvantage deing first on road.

Weather

SS1 should be -1..-3 degrees, cloudy, no more snowfall (but currently one big snowcloud is approximately 45 minutes from the stage)
SS2 should be -2..-7 degrees, it was just snowing, and some more snow is coming in next few hours. Tomorrow should be without remarkable snowfall.

SS3 +1..-1 degrees, no more snowfall, melting starts on the lower elevations, wind increases
SS4 -1..-6 degrees, no more snofall. but no sun either.

I think that there will not be too much fresh snow that might be bad for the first starters, but it can be compacted and get worse in some locations. Also I expect a lot of ice on SS1/3, because it was up to +1 there today and it will be as low as -3 overnight.. so.. the result should be icy.
So, I expect fisrt stage will be for studded tires, second stage with 2 studded and 2 snow as there might be much more snow as well.

[dimviii]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=EkAW_o0rRfs

[dimviii]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/394821_537067586317857_702764892_n.jpghttp://nsa30.casimages.com/img/2013/01/15/130115070244257040.jpg

[vkangas]

straight in junction for Ogier and Latvala

Latvala much faster out :) .

[fmcv]

It seems to have become some kind of trend for WRC-photographers to photoshop in extreme saturated gradients for the sky. Keep it real instead!

I'm not sure wether it is a photoshop edition to that photo or the use a filter in front of the lens... But I agree. Another trend stuff that doesn't catch my eye is the (ab)use of HDR editions.

[dimviii]

eWRC.cz - Fotogalerie Rallye Monte Carlo 2013 Greg Roslon (http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/fotogalery.php?events=5887&fotograf=100)

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photos/rallye_monte_carlo_2013/grr_img_1606.jpg

[Jerra]

It can be even scarier... :D


And this is a parody for the first livery ...

[dimviii]

http://imageshack.us/a/img521/6426/dsc01250ox.jpghttp://imageshack.us/a/img28/7374/dsc01265h.jpg

[stefanvv]

It seems to have become some kind of trend for WRC-photographers to photoshop in extreme saturated gradients for the sky. Keep it real instead!

I like from time to time different point of view. Looks cool. We've seen enough "real" pictures, some photographers like to be artists sometimes, nothing bad.

[stefanvv]

Those drivers portraits on the VW truck scare me ... Not good idea from designer

I guess the message is - We'll make history. In fact I didn't see other teams to honour their drivers so much.

[Juha_Koo]

So, it appears that the cars are not carrying onboard cameras...? :(

[bennizw]

There is a difference between using Photoshop to enhance an already existing colour in the image, and placing a colour that has no resemblance to the lighting conditions at all. In my opinion rally photography is journalistic photography and therefore shouldn't be manipulated (not to be mixed with edited). I have no problems with people using Photoshop to art their images up for fun, it's just that such images cannot be published in the media.

[vino_93]

Flippin 'eck! I've just realised it's 10 years since the start of the 2003 season!! I remember following the Monte so clearly on the 'net at college since I didn't have it at home. Now that was a season I anticipated and enjoyed!

Dear FIA: Please bring back 3 cars for those who want them. I don't think it's a coincidence that that's how things were in the glory days. And never make dumb rules again, especially if they force out the famous drivers that bring the fans in.

It exists 3 cars nowadays ... Ford (Qatar) has 4 official drivers (Novikov, Neuville, Ostberg, Al Attiyah) and it seems that Hanninen is included in the team. Citroën has 4 too (Sordo, Loeb, Hirvonen, Al Qassimi) and VW 3 (Latvala, Ogier, Mikkelsen). It's only a question of name ... but the cars are here.

[dimviii]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=aCRBCh0nhE4

[dimviii]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xws74a#.UPW1yR2EwYR

[rjbetty]

It exists 3 cars nowadays ... Ford (Qatar) has 4 official drivers (Novikov, Neuville, Ostberg, Al Attiyah) and it seems that Hanninen is included in the team. Citroën has 4 too (Sordo, Loeb, Hirvonen, Al Qassimi) and VW 3 (Latvala, Ogier, Mikkelsen). It's only a question of name ... but the cars are here.

That's encouraging to see, but I think the teams should be allowed to nominate more than 2 cars of which the first two of those in the results claim points. Then the teams have an incentive to run more cars, meaning more drivers drive and the fans come in! Also, there will be less crimes committed like Galli, P.Solberg, Atkinson and the like being out of drives.

P.S. The only reason Atko might look a little mediocre recently is because of the car (looks like Armindo is telling the truth) and cos he's rusty and has been out of the WRC a long time. He seriously impressed me in 2007 and I see that in 2008 he beat Solberg which back then was a real feat.

[rjbetty]

2003 Result (10 years ago) - I'm so fond of this season I still remember the results off the top of my head. I just wanted to revisit briefly.

1.Sebastien Loeb (Citroen Xsara)
2.Colin Mcrae (Citroen Xsara) +45s
3.Carlos Sainz (Citroen Xsara)
4.Markko Martin (Ford Focus)
5.Richard Burns (Peugeot 206)
6.Cedric Robert (Peugeot 206 - Private) - what on earth happened to him?!! I remember Corrado Provera promising him a full season based on this result.
7.Francois Duval (Ford Focus) +0.2 behind Robert!
8.Armin Schwarz (Hyundai Accent) - YAY!
9.Didier Auriol (Skoda Octavia) - YAYx2 - was huge fan of the Octavia (Monte and Safari 2001 with Schwarz baby)
10.Roman Kresta (Peugeot 206) - big fan of Roman
11.Antony Warmbold (Ford Focus) - Hi Antony! :)
12.Olivier Burri (Toyota Corolla)
13.Marcus Gronholm (Peugeot 206) - you were scary fast but binned it.

Others who retired
Mikko Hirvonen (Ford)
Gilles Panizzi (Peugeot)
Harri Rovanpera (Peugeot) - ok I know he didn't do this one, but I wanted to include him as he was a top driver round this time.
Tommi Makinen (Subaru)
Petter Solberg (Subaru) - well done for BOTH retiring on SS5 guys!
Freddy Loix (Hyundai) - hope you enjoyed the ride downhill - Looked like fun to me.
Toni Gardemeister (Skoda) - Never got going...

That doesn't include the JWRC which had Brice Tirabassi (Renault), Daniel Carlsson and Urmo Aava (Suzuki), Guy Wilks (Ford), Kris Meeke (Opel - man he was FAST in that car!), Mirco Baldacci and Marcos Ligato (Fiat). Kosti Katajamaki also came 2nd in a VOLKSWAGEN POLO, but was DSQ'd on a technicality (hmmm wonder if that's a portent of something to come on Sunday...)

WOW just look at all those names and cars!! This has stirred me much more than anything this year! I'm not trying to be mean or negative but this is how I feel. I hope the FIA are taking things seriously about fixing the mess which I mostly blame them for really.

Over and out.

[vino_93]

About Gilbert, Rémi Tutelaire, is former codriver, wrote this on facebook :
"Comme a déjà pu le dire un certain Sébastien, dans la vie il y a une justice... Après m'avoir fait passer pour un immature et un frein à son ascension, aujourd'hui je ris bien au nez des gens qui ont tout mis en œuvre pour m'évincer! A bon entendeur"

As previously said a definite Sébastien, there's a justice in life ... After have me passed as unripe and a brake for his ascent, today I'm laughing in people faces who implements all to squeeze me ! A word to the wise is enough.

another info : he was shown at 180km/h. Don't know if it was on highway or not.

[Teme]

So, it appears that the cars are not carrying onboard cameras...? :(

Few minutes ago in MTV3 MAX preview program they had onboard footage from WRC cars in shakedown. At least Hänninen, Sordo, Ogier, Latvala etc. so I assume they have onboard cameras in every P1 car.

[Mirek]

What was the camera position?

[Mirek]

About Gilbert, Rémi Tutelaire, is former codriver, wrote this on facebook :
"Comme a déjà pu le dire un certain Sébastien, dans la vie il y a une justice... Après m'avoir fait passer pour un immature et un frein à son ascension, aujourd'hui je ris bien au nez des gens qui ont tout mis en œuvre pour m'évincer! A bon entendeur"

As previously said a definite Sébastien, there's a justice in life ... After have me passed as unripe and a brake for his ascent, today I'm laughing in people faces who implements all to squeeze me ! A word to the wise is enough.

another info : he was shown at 180km/h. Don't know if it was on highway or not.

Can You translate that part somehow again? I don't understand what is going on from the English translation.

[Teme]

What was the camera position?
The cameras were in the dashboard, filming either drivers or the road. But not in good positions. One camera, meant to film Hirvonen's face, was placed behind the steering wheel so couldn't see the face of Mikko, only helmet and chest :D

[satukata]

What was the camera position?

Inside in the middle of car. It looks very good. Better than earlier ;)

[dimviii]

Quick quiz......which is the difference at livery between Loebs,Mikkos and Danis ds3?


the winner will take 2 beers.(the beers i will win from Tom at Sweden)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Several shakedown vids and photo's all here :)

Live Rallye Wrc Monte-Carlo 2013 (http://planetemarcus.com/saison-wrc/monte-carlo-2013/live-rallye-wrc-monte-carlo-2013/)

[dimviii]

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[satukata]

The cameras were in the dashboard, filming either drivers or the road. But not in good positions. One camera, meant to film Hirvonen's face, was placed behind the steering wheel so couldn't see the face of Mikko, only helmet and chest :D

I saw Sordos incar from shakedown an it was nice. :D

[stefanvv]

Quick quiz......which is the difference at livery between Loebs,Mikkos and Danis ds3?

Let me guess - Loeb's car has 9x more gold color?

[ChristianArp]

Can You translate that part somehow again? I don't understand what is going on from the English translation.

Basically it is his old codriver taking advantage of the situation to let everyone know that he felt mis-treated when he was thrown out of 'his' seat with the argument that he was immature and in the way of Gilberts development.
Between the lines he is just taking a lot of pleasure from the fact that he believes 'the truth' has now come out, that Gilbert is the immature of the two and that he was thrown out for other reasons..

[dimviii]

Let me guess - Loeb's car has 9x more gold color?
lol
No you loose, you own me 2 beers.

[mousti]

lol
No you loose, you own me 2 beers.
Different mirrors. Saw yesterday, Black White and Red

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Nice photo... nice car !

http://www.rallysport.hu/images/2013/photo/wrc/01_monte/02_shakedown/images/RSHU_Photo_032_jpg.jpg

[had_zachau]

Sordo and Hirvo have citroen logo on mirror, Loeb has Oakley


Different mirrors. Saw yesterday, Black White and Red

[stefanvv]

lol
No you loose, you own me 2 beers.

:D That wasn't in the rules...

EDIT: But I think you owe me a beer, so I can agree to 1 to 1, it's a fair deal :D

Speaking of livery what does this mean in the back window bottom left corner?

http://www.rallysport.hu/images/2013/photo/wrc/01_monte/01_service/images/RSHU_Photo_011_jpg.jpg

[PLuto]

do we know Pluto if the morning stages are covered by enough snow? Maybe Loeb starts with disadvantage deing first on road.

Actual situation on SS 1: 0 km - 13 km wet, 13 km - 25 km snow, 25 km - 27 km wet with melted snow, 27 km - 37 km dry :D

[mousti]

Has something to do with the studded tires, every year u see that in MC and also in Jänner. The perfect explanation I don't have..

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Actual situation on SS 1: 0 km - 13 km wet, 13 km - 25 km snow, 25 km - 27 km wet with melted snow, 27 km - 37 km dry :D

Typical Monte we know and love... different every few kms :)

[ChristianArp]

Looks like a sticker to show whether or not the car is on studs or not - must be for the general public or police so they are easily identified. If I'm not wrong there has been rules about that in mountainous regions for ages, so that a car not on studs can keep extra braking distances.

[stefanvv]

Actual situation on SS 1: 0 km - 13 km wet, 13 km - 25 km snow, 25 km - 27 km wet with melted snow, 27 km - 37 km dry :D

I guess the wet parts will freeze in the night, no?

[dimviii]

Actual situation on SS 1: 0 km - 13 km wet, 13 km - 25 km snow, 25 km - 27 km wet with melted snow, 27 km - 37 km dry :D

easy situation :vader:

@stefanvv
no i amnot saying about the sticker,even i think all ds3 have this sticker.

[PLuto]

Has something to do with the studded tires, every year u see that in MC and also in Jänner. The perfect explanation I don't have..

You must have this sticker on the car, if you have studded tyres. And if there are no studded tyres, you should cross the sticker...

[dimviii]

Different mirrors. Saw yesterday, Black White and Red

yes you win 2 beers from Tom. :D

[dimviii]

Sordo and Hirvo have citroen logo on mirror, Loeb has Oakley

hadn t see the difference with oakley logos!

[dupanton]

Yes, the sticker must be on the car when on studs, and must be crossed out when not.

[dupanton]

yes you win 2 beers from Tom. :D

He just lost a bet for e beer againt earlier this week :D So this is going to be difficult :D
Other difference: the national flags on the roof of the car!

[mousti]

yes you win 2 beers from Tom. :D
That's good I already owe one to him too. So it's 1-1 :D

[Kielder]

Good capture:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aFeXhb0cE8

[makinen_fan]

Do these generation cars have some kind of anti-stall system. Both Prokop (0:26) and JML (5:16) engine seem to cut off when they lock the tyres but engine kicks in after a second or so.

[Kielder]

Official highlights:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dfcie87YOf8

[Kielder]

Those drivers portraits on the VW truck scare me ... Not good idea from designer

It even scares JML...

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/481386_470682422993196_160003692_n.jpg

[bluuford]

I guess the wet parts will freeze in the night, no?
Yes, the temperature should be below zero on all the stage already..

[danon]

Good capture:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aFeXhb0cE8

Prokop is A total waste of money!

[Prisoner Monkeys]

He's not that bad - he just ran a little wide and got his rear wheel caught in a ditch. He came back down to earth without any apparent damage.

[Kielder]

Lachamp-Raphaël is waiting for the cars (photos from yesterday afternoon):

http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/558220montecarlolachampraphael1big.jpg
http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/766261montecarlolachamp2big.jpg

[Kielder]

Problems for everyone everywhere:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kYek4nKHsd8#!

Watching the video, I remember the wise words by Loeb that I read this afternoon:

"Q: This is a true Monte, isn’t it…

A: I have never done the rally with a lot of snow, it’s always been one stage or half a stage, but usually more like a tarmac rally. At the moment, it’s not like this, the conditions will be tricky. On the shakedown, I think we were lucky it was in the field, because I think some time everybody went in the field somewhere! But tomorrow, it is not in the field, tomorrow we have walls, rocks and ditches. Let’s see what we can do.”

[Prisoner Monkeys]

Lachamp-Raphaël is waiting for the cars
Which stage is that again?

[danon]

Running wide is the least of all.
Natural talent and "Sixth Sense" is what he lacks most of all.

[Prisoner Monkeys]

Prokop is A total waste of money!
Then, on the back of tihs, so too is Loeb:


Problems for everyone everywhere:

[danon]

Here is the one to watch and compare to...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qLLv9ULVPk

[Kielder]

Which stage is that again?

SS3 Burzet-St Martial. It's the highest point of the stage. On the first photo, cars arrive from the road on the right and go to the back of the photographer. After a few meters, they turn right and start to descend. This is a good onboard of the stage (the crew reaches the town at 12:58):


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEKJxFdt2hM

I'm not sure about the second photo, but I believe it was taken few meters before the town.

By the way, there's a great onboard of Le Moulinon-Antraigues in the same channel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5M-YRWnbww

[Kielder]

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http://www.motorsport-magazin.com/images/950/q_80/sw_adrivo/se_sutton/0464630.jpg

[Kielder]

Spot the difference:

http://www.infullgear.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/pettersolberg.jpg
http://www.citroen-wrc.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/lr_2013001259.jpg

[Tom206wrc]

D-Day for Monte-Carlo :bounce:
Unfortuneately I'll miss SS1 and 2... :mark:

[HaCo]

Let the battles begin! :-)

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[dimviii]

D-Day for Monte-Carlo :bounce:
Unfortuneately I'll miss SS1 and 2... :mark:

me too :(

[Hartusvuori]

Yep, first proper WRC day of the year and I'm stuck at meetings up until SS4.

My friend just sent a message from SS1/3 (don't know which point) but he said few minus celcius, clearing up and mixed conditions. Some dry tarmac and then the opposite, ice with a layer of snow. I would not want to be the one in charge of tyre choice.

[HarriK]

Ladies ans Gentlemans start your engines!

[GigiGalliNo1]

Less than an Hour until stage starts!

WRCLive radio is on in 19minutes

iRally app and http://iRallyLive.com website will have latest news!

[Juha_Koo]

Damn, I'll have to rely to Twitter/Forum/etc. for the morning loop, the single and only mandatory four-hour lecture where you actually need to focus a bit happens to be just today... :-P

[Mise]

I'm on my winter holyday. Should I go skiing or follow splits of SS1?
That's a tough one :D

[6789]

Who thinks VW will be competitive?? Should be an interesting day!