Rallye Wrc Monte-Carlo 2013

[marcosg]

The we have Hänninen who was quite spectacular and sideways in MC, I don't know (of course) nor have heard any comment about the reason, but I like it.



About Hänninen. He used to be pretty flamboyant with the S2000 too ;)

I think I eared him on the radio saying that he did realize he was being too agressive and needed to adapt his driving style that was still too much "influenced" by driving the skoda so many years :)

Although I agree his "natural" driving style is indeed flamboyant... wich we all appreciate ;)

[uranium]

Somebody posted onboard with Dard Thierry. Any video outside the car? I'd like to see him from outside the car.

[Kielder]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=E0-hLXvJx8M

It was very fast that part on dry tarmac (for example JML at 14:48).

[Mirek]

So what did they gain cutting every second pad on the outside when pads between the two cut lines are blocked? Iguess they didn´t win anything on that. Rather on the contrary.
They should have cut pads between them as well to gain performance in slush.

You mean to cut pads with studs? No, sure not. Anyway what is on the photo was actually a solution developed by Michelin and it was commonly used by all teams in the IRC. In my opinion the main target was to make the footprint of the tyre as small as possible but to keep all studs.

[Rallyper]

You mean to cut pads with studs? No, sure not. Anyway what is on the photo was actually a solution developed by Michelin and it was commonly used by all teams in the IRC. In my opinion the main target was to make the footprint of the tyre as small as possible but to keep all studs.

OK. I understand. The maintarget when heavy slushy would be to evacuate loads of slush in an axial direction from the pattern just to keep the grip (eg. contact with surface).

[Mirek]

Of course but You can't fulfill that if You cut also those only pads (with studs) which have always contact with the ground. If You make large holes between them and You rotate the tyre to a point that it touches ground in the cut area the new footprint is almost same as with tyre without any cuts but the working must be worse because there are no grooves between pads. Plus You would face enormous wear.

In the case actually used it works like a double very narrow tyre (with the large middle groove from cutting everything between stud-holding pads) but of course the amount of slush which it can cope with is limited by the depth of cuts.

[Pascal 07]

Photos de Jean-Loup PONTET :

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/9403/mg23jpga.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/4/mg23jpga.jpg/)

http://img547.imageshack.us/img547/8198/mg29jpga.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/547/mg29jpga.jpg/)

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/7227/mg16jpga.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/339/mg16jpga.jpg/)

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/4131/mg25jpga.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/51/mg25jpga.jpg/)

Rally Italia sardegna (http://motors-photos.com/jean-loup-pontet.htm)

[jaizkibel]

great pics!!

[Jerra]

I have seen the drone in some of the videos, here is some footage from it.

Drone-Work at the Rallye Monte Carlo 2013 -- MAKING OF-- on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/57940210)

Impressive and novel technology for WRC shame that music is used in the video. I think Ken Block used one in his videos in a US rally before, but that one was a RC helicopter.

Now I know what was that in background!

[dimviii]

no lift at all for the Master

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rImZh8aEW5s

[dimviii]

nice photo

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BBYhZZYCIAAV6ui.jpg:large

[gloomyDAY]

http://vimeo.com/57940210

Pretty cool view from a drone.

[dimviii]

nice incar from Loeb -Ogier.Watch at 0,59
World Rally Championship - Video (http://www.wrc.com/video/)

[stefanvv]

nice incar from Loeb -Ogier.Watch at 0,59
World Rally Championship - Video (http://www.wrc.com/video/)

How about that? Who cares Paul King is commenting the coverages when we have such :D

[Mirek]

nice incar from Loeb -Ogier.Watch at 0,59
World Rally Championship - Video (http://www.wrc.com/video/)

I understand that sometimes it's good to have a comparison but I'm not a woman and my brain isn't able to evaluate 2 videos in same time, not speaking about 4. I would prefer two separated onboards to enjoy them properly.

Anyway is that stage St. Nazaire?

[dimviii]

I understand that sometimes it's good to have a comparison but I'm not a woman and my brain isn't able to evaluate 2 videos in same time, not speaking about 4. I would prefer two separated onboards to enjoy them properly.

Anyway is that stage St. Nazaire?

yes but how you could see the difference at o,59 if you watch seperately?

[Franky]

yes but how you could see the difference at o,59 if you watch seperately?

But by the end of the clip Loeb was ahead, if I'm not wrong. Didn't stop the video to evaluate the positions of the cars on the track.

[dimviii]

But by the end of the clip Loeb was ahead, if I'm not wrong. Didn't stop the video to evaluate the positions of the cars on the track.

you haven t got to stop the video to see the difference.

[stefanvv]

But by the end of the clip Loeb was ahead, if I'm not wrong. Didn't stop the video to evaluate the positions of the cars on the track.

At that moment Ogier was still quicker. Loeb caught up later

[Francis44]

So a driver with 8 times more experience on Monte Carlo is faster than other with a completely new car..... How surprising.

[dimviii]

So a driver with 8 times more experience on Monte Carlo is faster than other with a completely new car..... How surprising.

you definetely didn t understant what i said.

[Kielder]

Best video of Sordo's spin. That was very close.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAGi0_Jgpgw&feature=player_embedded

[jbmarcus21]

#WRC Best Of [PHOTOS] of 2 friends about #montecarlo13 Live Rallye Wrc Monte-Carlo 2013 (http://planetemarcus.com/saison-wrc/monte-carlo-2013/live-rallye-wrc-monte-carlo-2013/)

[Mirek]

A question to Jonkka :) Has someone ever before won a stage in his first start with WRC car like Bouffier did?

Here nice video, sorry if repost.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEoEu8Zz1dc

[tolis]

@Mirek: Ogier in GB 2008

[Kielder]

@Mirek: Ogier in GB 2008

In fact, it was his debut in a WRC car and the first time he ran in Wales. Besides, he won the first stage of the rally (SS2, since SS1 was cancelled). Sainz did the same in 1987 in Portugal winning the opening stage in his first WRC event. He even won another stage before the turbo failed on day 1 of the rally, so he had to retire.

[stefanvv]

Some interesting pictures from Monte:
http://image.redbull.com/rbcom/0010/1/1000/666/001/253/788/P-20130116-00024_News.jpghttp://image.redbull.com/rbcom/0010/1/1000/666/001/118/879/99357_Hirvonen2013MC176.jpghttp://image.redbull.com/rbcom/0010/1/1000/666/001/611/11/99491_Latvala2013MC_sv033.JPG

The Monte Carlo Rally in pictures - Photo | Red Bull Motorsports (http://www.redbull.com/en/motorsports/offroad/stories/1331580647825/the-monte-carlo-rally-in-pictures)

[Kielder]

http://img.imgur.com/G2sZAzU.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/2j9il3.jpg
http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/397479_403450493071986_1078083271_n.jpg
http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/321367_10151271723764403_1285373341_n.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photos/rallye_monte_carlo_2013/mr_m%20%2842%29.jpg

[stefanvv]

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photos/rallye_monte_carlo_2013/mr_m%20%2842%29.jpg

Now I'm not that angry about the traffic jam

[Kielder]

It wasn't easy...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fPB7CzDLDU4

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BBqkV18CYAESOgQ.jpg:large

[rallyfun]

Now I'm not that angry about the traffic jam
This is the traffic from Col de Turini after they have canceled the stage

[stefanvv]

This is the traffic from Col de Turini after they have canceled the stage

I know ;)

[Franky]

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photos/rallye_monte_carlo_2013/mr_m%20%2842%29.jpg

That's the moment when you sit back, take another drink and enjoy the sight.

[Mirek]

That's a situation which my friend calls an optic cable :D

[Kielder]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BBqkV18CYAESOgQ.jpg:large

http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/530710_428186340588142_1995736724_n.jpg

[Kielder]

http://i46.tinypic.com/1znx6s2.jpg

[Kielder]

http://i48.tinypic.com/34gldgl.jpg

[spiderem]

It wasn't easy...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fPB7CzDLDU4
just a bit surprising that the co-driver is not helping and stay comfortably inside with his note book on his knee watching people getting crazy to get them out... typical corse ;)

[xavier]

nice incar from Loeb -Ogier.Watch at 0,59
World Rally Championship - Video (http://www.wrc.com/video/)

the braking at 1:45-1:55 is interesting as well

[Mirek]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BBqkV18CYAESOgQ.jpg:large

That's way too much unreal for me. Looks like a render from a PC game...

[dimviii]

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/2083/26mc036.jpg

[Kielder]

The driver of the 2006 who was helped to return to the stage posted a comment on the video showing gratitude to the spectators:

"Salut à tous,

Je suis le pilote de la 206, je voulais profiter de cette vidéo pour remercier tous ceux qui nous ont permis de repartir, sans vous le rallye se serait arrêté là! Vous nous avez permis d'aller au bout de notre rêve jusqu'à MONACO à une superbe 25ème place malgré ces presque 8min de perdues... Pour votre info, aux intermédiaires consultables sur WRC.com nous étions 18ème au scratch et 3ème 2Roues motrices au moment de la sortie...c'est la course.

Encore merci à vous les passionnés!"

Thanks to the spectators, the crew could continue with the rally. Thanks to the driver, we can watch the onboards from the ten different stages of the rally on his YT's channel: David JULIA - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/user/davidjuliarallye?feature=watch)
For example, it's the first time that we can see a full onboard of St Nazaire:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5GPvh-9Y0g

Things like this make me love the sport even more :) .http://www.youtube.com/user/davidjuliarallye?feature=watch

[Kielder]

Another crew driving a 206 got stuck in the same ditch as the C2 that I posted before. This is the video (those spectators were really busy): SORTIE 206 n°92 SUR ES6 SAINT BONNET LE FROID MONTE CARLO 2013 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY4a_cAaLAQ)
The driver of the 206 who was helped to return to the stage posted a comment on the video showing gratitude to them:

"Salut à tous,

Je suis le pilote de la 206, je voulais profiter de cette vidéo pour remercier tous ceux qui nous ont permis de repartir, sans vous le rallye se serait arrêté là! Vous nous avez permis d'aller au bout de notre rêve jusqu'à MONACO à une superbe 25ème place malgré ces presque 8min de perdues... Pour votre info, aux intermédiaires consultables sur WRC.com nous étions 18ème au scratch et 3ème 2Roues motrices au moment de la sortie...c'est la course.

Encore merci à vous les passionnés!".

Thanks to the spectators, the crew could continue with the rally. Thanks to the driver, we can watch the onboards of the ten different stages of the rally on his YT's channel: David JULIA - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/user/davidjuliarallye?feature=watch)
For example, it's the first time that we can see a full onboard of St Nazaire:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5GPvh-9Y0g

Things like this make me love the sport even more :) .http://www.youtube.com/user/davidjuliarallye?feature=watch

[Kielder]

http://i49.tinypic.com/10dth6f.jpg
http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/543967_533015943385326_1854406102_n.jpg
http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/5434/mg3961.jpg

[Fly_Half]

Couple of images further up the page which proves that Motorsport Photography and HDR do NOT mix.

[tommeke_B]

Couple of images further up the page which proves that Motorsport Photography and HDR do NOT mix.

At least not for action-photos... ;)

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BB4gEZ8CUAA8FqJ.jpg:large

[SubaruNorway]

Hopefully they will make some version of the Sweden snow tire for next year, watching the passage over Col De Turini was one of the most boring things I've ever seen.

[Mirek]

There is no need to invent anything. Narrow tyres fit with MC-style studs were normally used two weeks before Monte in FIA ERC Jänner Rally which is very similar event to RMC. There must be a will to allow these tyres. At least it's strange when in one FIA championship You can use them and in another not.

[SubaruNorway]

There is no need to invent anything. Narrow tyres fit with MC-style studs were normally used two weeks before Monte in FIA ERC Jänner Rally which is very similar event to RMC. There must be a will to allow these tyres. At least it's strange when in one FIA championship You can use them and in another not.

I know, it's just that the reason for the FIA to start using the wider snow tires where so they would fit on gravel rims. So it would be against there own rules i guess to suddenly use a narrow rim and tire in MC when it's not allowed in Sweden.

[Mirek]

I just recall another strange story about tyre regulations. According to the specific regulations for S2000 and WRC cars only 18x8" rims are permitted for events declared as asphalt ones. Funny thing is that such rule doesn't exist for gr.N cars. In RMC or Jänner it's same for all 4WD classes due to supplementary regulations but it's not like that everywhere.

Why I point that out? In 2009 Rally Bohemia was for some reason held in late October instead of usual July (certain AM was there with a Škoda by the way). For some strange reason almost every year in let's say last decade we have snowfalls in that time. They always last only few days but often are heavy. Than no snow for another month at least. So there was snow, a lot of snow. Some crews got stuck in recce, some roads were closed, a true calamity. And than came the point. There was a different opinion about what to do between guys with S2000 cars and certain guys with gr.N cars. It was presented on public that those with S2000 cars are sissies because they are afraid of snow but the real reason was that while gr.N guys could use narrow 16" tyres (although without studs but at least it was easy to obtain them) the S2000 would have to use wide 18" tyres also without studs (and it is likely there were even no MC style tyres in CZ so quickly available). In the end the rally was shortened to some 45 km held only on two wet stages and certain JH won his first asphalt event there I think :)

[awake27]

Nonsense. Infact Ogier already did "ridicule" Loeb more than twice in 2011. In fact I remember 2 victory's in Portugal against Loeb where in one Ogier cleaned the road for two straight days.
And Loeb lost time behind a punctured Hirvonen's dust cloud. The fact is Ogier in all rallies of the season (except Mexico, where he crashed doing the impossible) started behind Loeb in the road and thus had the better tactic at all times versus his countryman (or the option of that if for example Loeb didn't have that penalty in Argentina). Even at days where he could just position himself after Petter, Latvala and Hirvonen he would drop further time to get behind Loeb too because he was obsessed with him. The top of the iceberg was the stunt of Acropolis with Quesnel and Smeets where they weren't satisfied of already having the better option of starting behind Loeb, they shut down the tracking of Ogier's at the night stage (no splits no gps no nothing, even the organisers couldn't see Ogier in the stage for the safety reasons) and then texting him the target time of Loeb's despite being a phantom just to eliminate any alternative plan of Loeb slotting behind Petter at least. That just is not sportsmanship. If there wasn't a constructors championship going he would be thrown out of Citroen already with his other 2 pals and not just relegated to number 2 to finish the season.


Note: Sardinia 2011 is a far better and legit example of "ridicule" than Portugal 2010.

[Kielder]

Great HD photos:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8052/8405644346_37ccde646d_o.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8357/8404548147_f32308cb3f_o.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8508/8405645692_4ea52a9394_o.jpg
http://i45.tinypic.com/ncmjrb.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8073/8405646976_3a4643f097_o.jpg

[dimviii]

http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/545643RMC2013579.jpghttp://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/821231RMC2013259.jpg

[Kielder]

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8367/8411338081_f8923201c6_b.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8194/8408613013_ae8b208e62_b.jpg
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http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8464/8402796348_3dfb95d6e7_b.jpg

[Kielder]

http://www.chassimages.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=174315.0;attach=59 0255;image
http://www.chassimages.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=174315.0;attach=59 0600;image
http://i45.tinypic.com/14xdj4j.jpg
http://oi50.tinypic.com/k99zrt.jpg
http://oi50.tinypic.com/nauxl.jpg

[dj_masch_hr]

A friend of mine visited Monte this year. I think he has some cool pics :)

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[darkstar]

here´s something that has become pretty rare at last time, a full stage wrc onboard, loeb at monte carlo. i wonder where this comes from, must be directly from the source, not even a wrc or any tv logo on it:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jZJjpQtJYuc

[RobertS]

here´s something that has become pretty rare at last time, a full stage wrc onboard, loeb at monte carlo. i wonder where this comes from, must be directly from the source, not even a wrc or any tv logo on it:
Thank you very much!
'Lud WRC' - Please more and more! :s mokin:

[tommeke_B]

Something makes me think it's cutted from that "4-split onboard" with Loeb/Ogier. :) Anyway, nice!

[gorganl2000]

here´s something that has become pretty rare at last time, a full stage wrc onboard, loeb at monte carlo. i wonder where this comes from, must be directly from the source, not even a wrc or any tv logo on it:


excellent upload...i enjoyed that
thanks

[igi]

wow, great video

[Bogador Xp]

Have not found it, so I start it.

I thought it was an interesting season start, although I have since not so much unaware of.
The shots that I have seen were very good and a few fault of the drivers.
It was interesting to see how the drivers are coped with the different street ratios. Yes it was a lot of snow.
Hope to see more rally action soon, I have to make up much