European Historic Rally Championship 2012

[Mirek]

First event starts near Madrid tomorrow. Carlos Sainz and Luis Moya with No.1 on their Porsche.

IV Rally de España Histórico | 9, 10 y 11 de marzo de 2012 (http://www.rallyofspain.com/wp/en/)

[Mirek]

Live results from second event - Rallye Sanremo Storico: http://www.sanremorally.it/classifiche/storico12/index.html

[tolis]

4th round of the championship, 11th Historic Acropolis Rally cancelled, due to the national Greek elections in 6th of May.
New date will be 1-4th November 2012. Waiting for confirmation by the FIA.

[Mirek]

Live results of Rallye Vltava will be here: 21. Historic Vltava Rallye 2012 - Results - Rally-Base (http://rally-base.com/2012/21-historic-vltava-rallye-2012/)

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

I read the FIA regulations for the EHRC. The regulations are saying, that for safety reasons, mid- and rear-engined two-seater racing cars shall not be admitted to this Championship. Is there a special rule that the Lancia 037, which is definetely a mid enginend two seater, may take part in the championship? If yes, are there any other special rules that cars like the R5 Turbo are also allowes to take part in the championship? If I am right, according to this regulation it should be possible to start in the EHRc with an Audi Sport quattro E2.

[Mirek]

I don't know exactly the rules but Lancia 037 is newly allowed to score points this season, Stratos were allowed already before. Audi Sport Quattro sure not. Only older Quattro before gr.B - up to 1981 (I think).

By the way Guy Callum had a frontal crash on shakedown and is probably out of the rally.

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

Below I quote the FIA regulations for the Category 4 cars

"Category 4: Touring (T), Competition Touring (CT), Grand Touring (GT) and Competition Grand Touring (GTS) cars of Groups A and B, models homologated between 1/1/1982 and 31/12/1985 (Period J1 - see 2.2 below)E1 Group A up to 1600 cm3E2 Group A over 1600 cm3E3 Group B up to 1600 cm3 E4 Group B over 1600 cm3In the case of supercharging (see definition in the current Appendix J), the nominal cylinder capacity of all the cars will be multiplied by 1.4 and each car will belong to the class corresponding to the fictive cylinder capacity thus obtained.All cars must be registered for open public road use.For safety reasons, mid- and rear-engined two-seater racing cars shall not be admitted to this Championship.2.2 Period J1 cars 2.2.1 Cars listed in Art. 1.1 of Appendix XI of Appendix K are allowed."

When i understood the regulations correctly it has never been a problem for the Stratos, because it was already homologated before 1/1/1982. I think the Quattro Sport should be eligable to the championship under category 4, E4. By the way Toto Riolo drove a Quattro A2 at the San Remo Storico this year and this car was definteley homologated after 1/1/1982. I think it was in 1983 if I am right.

[Mirek]

I really don't know historic regulations, sorry. I though there was some explicit list of banned cars like Audi Quattro Sport, Peugeot 205 T16, Lancia Delta S4 or Ford RS200.

[dimviii]

I don't know exactly the rules but Lancia 037 is newly allowed to score points this season, Stratos were allowed already before. Audi Sport Quattro sure not. Only older Quattro before gr.B - up to 1981 (I think).

By the way Guy Callum had a frontal crash on shakedown and is probably out of the rally.

Maybe about hans difficulty to installed correct in 2 seats midengined?

[Mirek]

Two favorites Cunningham and Janota already out of battle on spectator circuit stage :( Janota lost over 5 minutes, Cunningham broke wheel...

[mousti]

With seeing the results, Historic rallying not so popular in Czech Republic? Only one Czech driving and that's Janota rest of field are all foreign drivers. In Ypres it's like 60-65% Belgian drivers.

[mousti]

I really don't know historic regulations, sorry. I though there was some explicit list of banned cars like Audi Quattro Sport, Peugeot 205 T16, Lancia Delta S4 or Ford RS200.
Gr B 2wd cars like a Renault 5 Turbo, Lancia 037 are allowed to drive in EHRC. Don't know about the Quattro Sport, that one is allowed in the BHRC, I mean the one at 12:26 not the S1 Ypres Historic Rally 2011 BRC - Pistop.tv - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zuo3rFggzjM&feature=channel&list=UL)

[vino_93]

I'm quite surprised to see Hainbach with his old Ascona in P2 :o

Nice rally by Harrach too !

[Mirek]

With seeing the results, Historic rallying not so popular in Czech Republic? Only one Czech driving and that's Janota rest of field are all foreign drivers. In Ypres it's like 60-65% Belgian drivers.

Czech drivers except Janota are running after ERC. There is some twenty of them and all in small engine cars. Historics indeed are not so popular in here for various reasons. Sometimes it's strange, for example Jiří Navrátil was entered with his Sierra Gr.A but his car is not allowed in ERC yet, so he was seeded as first local that means starting after Finns with Škoda Octavia TS which is car from 1960 with some 40 Hp. Navrátil decided not to start so deep in the field.

By the way for Janota it was electric glitch on SS1 which he managed to fix on stage. In next stages he was in sum fastest of all with only two litre car but now he retired with another technical problem - differential. The team said they had big problems with spare parts for Kadett so they need to finish new Ascona 400...

[mousti]

Thanks Mirek :)

[vino_93]

Final victory for Jensen after a strange end of rally, with retirements of Brazzoli and a lot of time loosing by Harrach ...

[Mirek]

Hainbach retired before finish ramp from second place because he was hit by some civil car. I heard it was mistake of the other driver :(

[Ondra WRC]

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My photos from Historic Vltava Rallye: ondik | Historic Vltava Rallye 2012 ? rajce.net (http://ondik.rajce.idnes.cz/Historic_Vltava_Rallye_2012/)

[mousti]

First entries are in for Ypres Historic rally! http://ypres-historic.cloudpartners.eu/files/5520122160-entryhisto.pdf

[vino_93]

I can't wait :P

[tolis]

Last round of Historic ERC 2012 is taking place this weekend in Greece. Historic Acropolis Rally will start tomorrow with tarmac stages and will continue on Sunday in gravel stages.

Itinerary: http://www.historic.acropolisrally.gr/userfiles/CMSFiles/2012/DocsNovember/SPORTINGITINERARY-NOVEMBER-2012.pdf
Entry List: http://www.historic.acropolisrally.gr/userfiles/CMSFiles/2012/DocsNovember/FinalEntryList/HISTORIC-ACROPOLIS-2012-SPORTING-ENTRY-LIST.pdf
Online results tommorow: 11th Historic Acropolis Rally, 2012 - RESULTS (http://www.historic.acropolisrally.gr/EN/2012/results-2012/)

Nice photos from today's scrutineering by N. Alexiou

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