Food City 500 Race Thread

[slorydn1]

Almost time to turn on the blender!

[harvick#1]

there goes nascar already :rolleyes:

thank god for the redneck gang on Comedy Central right now :D

[slorydn1]

Earlier on Tradin' Paint on Speed Channel they made a big deal about Joe Nemecheck et al going home due to the top 35 being locked in based on last years owners points through today. Well, I went ahead and pulled up the qualifying times on Jayski and set the field based on the system used from 2000-2005, where the top 36 set on speed and 37-42 were provisonals and 43 past champion if needed. Guess what?
The same people would have gone home as did anyway. The only difference was in the drivers starting position from spots 35 on back....the field would have been:

35) 84 Allmendinger
36) 38 Gilliand
37) 17 Kenseth
38) 29 Harvick
39) 6 Ragan
40) 2 Busch
41) 42 Montoya
42) 41 Sorenson
43) 18 Yeley

1-34 would have been the same as today...

The same people would have DNQ'd under both systems.

[slorydn1]

Could the pre-race show be ANY LONGER!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

[harvick#1]

no thats why I'm watching the Discovery channel.

Its a hour of a waste of time, they need to just start the damn race

[harvick#1]

now you people know why I dislike Gordon, because last week he was "upset with the #42 for racing too hard at the end of the race"

than retire you wimp, you do it to everyone else all the time

[slorydn1]

now you people know why I dislike Gordon, because last week he was "upset with the #42 for racing too hard at the end of the race"

than retire you wimp, you do it to everyone else all the time

It's ok when he does it, but if someone races him....PUHLEEEASE

[Erki]

pre race :s nore:

[slorydn1]

National Anthem...5 minutes to engine start

[slorydn1]

pre-race radio checks...all sounds good with the 29 car....

[harvick#1]

:s nore:

yes, we know all about the CoT please stop talking about it and just let them race :devil:

[slorydn1]

Engine's have started...its good to see Junior Johnson...
Harvick just gave his Hot Pass announcer the low down on the radio...he sounds confident

[slorydn1]

RC told Kevin lets go win this thing...Harv replied "10-4"

[slorydn1]

4 pace laps then green

[slorydn1]

pit road speed 30 mph....for the 29 that would be:
3900 second gear....

[Jonesi]

Earlier on Tradin' Paint on Speed Channel they made a big deal about Joe Nemecheck et al going home due to the top 35 being locked in based on last years owners points through today. Well, I went ahead and pulled up the qualifying times on Jayski and set the field based on the system used from 2000-2005, where the top 36 set on speed and 37-42 were provisonals and 43 past champion if needed. Guess what?
The same people would have gone home as did anyway. The only difference was in the drivers starting position from spots 35 on back....the field would have been:

35) 84 Allmendinger
36) 38 Gilliand
37) 17 Kenseth
38) 29 Harvick
39) 6 Ragan
40) 2 Busch
41) 42 Montoya
42) 41 Sorenson
43) 18 Yeley

1-34 would have been the same as today...

The same people would have DNQ'd under both systems.

Probably, but you omitted mentioning they had a second round of qualifing (on usually Sat). If you don't have the car, it doesn't matter, but if you just need a little time to sort out a good car, then drivers like Joe Nemecheck might still have qualified.

[slorydn1]

ready ready ready....green green green

[slorydn1]

Probably, but you omitted mentioning they had a second round of qualifing (on usually Sat). If you don't have the car, it doesn't matter, but if you just need a little time to sort out a good car, then drivers like Joe Nemecheck might still have qualified.
that would have been 1999 or earlier, but i see your point...that system was top 25 on time on friday...26-36 set by second day qually on Sat,
37-43 provisonals

[slorydn1]

lap 10...29 is 37th

[slorydn1]

lap 13....36th

[slorydn1]

41 car spin.........41 cut across the 29...caution is out

[slorydn1]

35th at first caution

[harvick#1]

Reed already took out Yeleys bumper even before the green on the pace laps :s

guess he was the first to test the bumper strength

[slorydn1]

back markers pitted.....29 came out in 31st

[harvick#1]

Kahne should complain to Gordon hes racing him too hard :p :

[slorydn1]

lap 25....26th

[slorydn1]

lap 32...23rd

[harvick#1]

harv is flyin :D

[slorydn1]

lap 36...21st...he's coming!!!!

[slorydn1]

lap 38...18th

[slorydn1]

lap 42...commercial...16th

[slorydn1]

caution...wreck in turn 1

[slorydn1]

harvick made it up to 15th

[harvick#1]

watch out Stewart Harvick is coming in flash :D

[slorydn1]

Harvick said his car is "incredibly fast" off the corner

[harvick#1]

40th to 15 in 42 laps, thats insane, Hes gonna be tough to beat

[slorydn1]

the 17 took out the 44...fox still in commercial

[slorydn1]

pit road is closed

[slorydn1]

pit road open

[slorydn1]

a few guys stayed out...29 will be 17th on the restart....so although he lost 2 spots he made up 3 on pit road if that makes sense

[slorydn1]

lap 60...15th

[harvick#1]

He was giving Gordon a good Bump, to get out the way :D

[slorydn1]

commercial...12th at lap 71

[slorydn1]

car loosened up...biffle passed him for 13th....now blaney for 14th...he's going backwards, now

[slorydn1]

harvick says he's way too loose

[slorydn1]

it seems to have stabilized...still 14th at lap 93

[slorydn1]

lap 102...13th

[slorydn1]

lap 105...11th

[slorydn1]

lap 115...12th

[e2mtt]

For what it's worth, the COT looks pretty decent on track.

[slorydn1]

lap 120 caution.....12th place.....

[slorydn1]

For what it's worth, the COT looks pretty decent on track.

looks like the same old bristol to me....looks like NASCAR finally did something right

[slorydn1]

36 stayed out for 5 points....looks like the 29 will restart 9th!!!!!

[harvick#1]

up to 9th thanks to a great stop :D

[e2mtt]

looks like the same old bristol to me....looks like NASCAR finally did something right

Yeah, this was an idea that I approved of. None of the cars actually looked "stock" anymore, so creating a template that was made to make the cars less aero dependent and race more like a classic stocker was probably a good move.

[harvick#1]

looks like the same old bristol to me

untill they are gonna screw up the track and repave it and are thinking about taking banking off the bottom lane :mad:

[e2mtt]

How is that a caution???!!! No spin or anything?

[dont_be_jack]

It's not repaving...it's relaying concrete. And they're not going to take the banking off the bottom lane. It's going to be the exact same, just new concrete. The concrete needs to be replaced - look at all the spots where it's been patched and damaged.

[slorydn1]

now harvick says hes tight...and no brakes...29 is pitting this time also

[harvick#1]

there have been talks of it to try and make Bristol a two groove track, but that will just never work

and Montoya spunout

[slorydn1]

driver over ruled that...leaders stayed out, so did he....still in 9th

[slorydn1]

28 cars on the lead lap

[slorydn1]

caution...wallmendinger

[slorydn1]

harv says he needs more forward bite

[dont_be_jack]

Do we need the constant 29 updates? If one cares, they're following him already.

[slorydn1]

kenny wallace is the lucky dog

[slorydn1]

Do we need the constant 29 updates? If one cares, they're following him already.
its for me and Harv...if ya don't like it go some where else :)

[slorydn1]

lap 155 restart.....29 cars on the lead still

[dont_be_jack]

its for me and Harv...if ya don't like it go some where else :)

Actually, the solution to that would be leave the thread called 'Ford City 500 Race Thread' for the race convo and either start a thread for you and Harv or take it into an AIM conversation.

[harvick#1]

is it me or does the Dodge looks very weird and bad with the avenger

[dont_be_jack]

is it me or does the Dodge looks very weird and bad with the avenger

It doesn't seem right. Dodge Charger just sounds so much better.

[slorydn1]

6 spun again........the 12 got one lap back.....29 still in 9th

[slorydn1]

Actually, the solution to that would be leave the thread called 'Ford City 500 Race Thread' for the race convo and either start a thread for you and Harv or take it into an AIM conversation.
I've done this every weekend ive been off from work and so far the only one whining is you...usually there are more people here and i update their drivers too...but i guess eveyone is busy so theonly 2 of us that have been here for the whole race is me and harv...who's your driver? I'll but him up on my trackpass and follow him, too....

[harvick#1]

seems hes just relaxing now, hes up near the front, if he can pick them off, then great, but I'm thinking hes not gonna start racin again until about 200 to go

[slorydn1]

It doesn't seem right. Dodge Charger just sounds so much better.


I think the avenger looks better in the front...but the street chargers are cool....my dept has 12 of them now...look real cool with blue lights on them

[harvick#1]

oh no Montoya and Robby are at the front of the field :s

[Hoss Ghoul]

Shocker that Robby Gordon and Juan Montoya are getting into it with each other...lol

[slorydn1]

i missed something...sadler is having a great run

[dont_be_jack]

I've done this every weekend ive been off from work and so far the only one whining is you...usually there are more people here and i update their drivers too...but i guess eveyone is busy so theonly 2 of us that have been here for the whole race is me and harv...who's your driver? I'll but him up on my trackpass and follow him, too....

I'm not worried about it just being Harvick being updated in here. Every time I've been following a race thread there's actually race discussion going on, not simple repostings of information that the vast majority of us who follow this thread can see by turning towards a television. I know that because there are less people it's more obvious, but it's possible that no one seemed to care before because there was actually substance to the thread, not just one-line posts.

[dont_be_jack]

I think the avenger looks better in the front...but the street chargers are cool....my dept has 12 of them now...look real cool with blue lights on them

Yea, the street Chargers are sweet cars - all the Dodges right now are. I love the look of them all.

[slorydn1]

16 and 29 have cleared the 7.....looks like the 7 is gonna be the one everyone needs to lookout for this weekend (wreck wise).....commercial again

[e2mtt]

Aw come on... Robby is racing pretty clean right now.

You just hear that, DW says they are putting in progressive banking this summer here at Bristol.

[harvick#1]

Progressive banking at Bristol, way to ruin a track. damn isn't there a quote saying "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" They are gonna ruin Bristol now :mad:

[slorydn1]

I'm not worried about it just being Harvick being updated in here. Every time I've been following a race thread there's actually race discussion going on, not simple repostings of information that the vast majority of us who follow this thread can see by turning towards a television. I know that because there are less people it's more obvious, but it's possible that no one seemed to care before because there was actually substance to the thread, not just one-line posts.

again....the people who are usually here are not....so theres no reason fro me to do thsi for them....as for simply looking at the tv.....i have found if i don't have the track pass going then the only drivers i can find coverage of are the 24, 48, 8, 9 and 20....i'll get a 29 update maybe twice a race, and the crawl is always behind

[slorydn1]

Progressive banking at Bristol, way to ruin a track. damn isn't there a quote saying "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" They are gonna ruin Bristol now :mad:
may be not....it sure fixed homestead!

[harvick#1]

Sadler takes the lead

[slorydn1]

sadler takes the lead on lap195

[slorydn1]

tv keeps talking about how tight everyone is....Harvick is still whining about being loose...the 20 retook the lead on lap 200

[e2mtt]

Looks like Robby must have broken something... he is running the slowest laps of the field, and is about to go 2 laps down, just about 10 laps after being the 1st 1 lap down.

[slorydn1]

29 is back in 10th...the 31 has been the fastest car the last couple of laps

[slorydn1]

Looks like Robby must have broken something... he is running the slowest laps of the field, and is about to go 2 laps down, just about 10 laps after being the 1st 1 lap down.

not sure whats going in with him...he is 5 mph off the pace tho.....when Harv went around him he said it looked like the 7 was leaning like something was broke....

sure hope its not a track bar or something, or he'll be wrecking soon

[harvick#1]

may be not....it sure fixed homestead!

not Bristol, the track is too small, plus if this happens, the top line will run too fast and the the groove will be in the middle of the track.

[harvick#1]

Biffle has been charging all of a sudden, Bowyer seems to be climbing up too, Gordon is also in the top 20 but being close to being lapped.

[slorydn1]

29 is still loose...kenseth just got around him for 10th....
race pace is now down to 110-112 mph

[Hoss Ghoul]

Kurt Busch had to pit, then he pulled the patented Jeff Gordon blunder--driving all the way around pit road under green when you're allowed to rejoin immediately.

He's many laps down now.

[Erki]

Robby got together with Stremme when 38 and 44 crashed. Might have something to do with that.

I like the 29 updates, keep'em coming. I can't get radios from TV.

[slorydn1]

caution out...36 couln't get to the pits......harv says he's both tight in and loose off...they seem to have straddled the setup

[slorydn1]

good stop....picked up 2 spots on pit road... :up: to the 24 for showing sportsmanship on pit road....

[slorydn1]

Robby got together with Stremme when 38 and 44 crashed. Might have something to do with that.

I like the 29 updates, keep'em coming. I can't get radios from TV.

That may have been it, i forgot about that....

[slorydn1]

some one mentioned kurt busch earlier...he is 4 laps dwon in 36th

[harvick#1]

Sadler pitting, loose wheel :eek: he was running 2nd, Biffle now Second

[slorydn1]

tough break for sadler....loose wheel

[slorydn1]

oh and by the way Harv...we are in 7th at the crossed flags

[e2mtt]

Watching the leaderboard... Junior has been sitting in 12th for a long time, but he is running some of the fastest laps right now.

Robby was actually running quite well, when he was first a lap down, then he fell off bigtime. I would guess a trackbar or something gave out.

[slorydn1]

the 7 is now back even with the mid pack on speeds....must have been a tire or something....but rubby is 3 laps down in 32nd

[slorydn1]

i think JR may just be "riding"...looking at the map he seems to be in a clear hole.....sometimes guys will do that to avoid trouble in the middle of the race, find themselves a nice comfortable place to run

[slorydn1]

oh, and the 29 is 6th on lap 271

[harvick#1]

Harv up to 6th, seems to be getting better :D

[harvick#1]

all three RCR cars in the top 10 :D

[slorydn1]

lap 278 p5....something seems to be wrong with the 9 car....fox says he's having handeling issues

[harvick#1]

it it stays green, Johnson and Gordon are in trouble. Kahne falling back while Kyle is up to second.

Tony up by 4 seconds :eek:

just as we speak Kasey Spins

[slorydn1]

U called that!...caution out for the #9 spin.....

cool on all 3 RCR cars in top 10...
Happy asked for a new bottle of water...he's cramping a little

[e2mtt]

Boyer's splitter split Kahne's tire? Always fun to see unintended and unexpected consequences of new rules.

[slorydn1]

harv lost 2 spots on pit road...31 busted for too fast entering pit road

[slorydn1]

Boyer's splitter split Kahne's tire? Always fun to see unintended and unexpected consequences of new rules.
they may have to look at that...although it hasn't seemed to have been a problem in the truck series...maybe it sticks out more on a cup car?

[slorydn1]

20 is pitting again??????????

[harvick#1]

Stewart in pits, no fuel pressure

[harvick#1]

Kyle busch in the lead, followed by Biffle

[slorydn1]

wow...thats huge......20 out with a fuel pump failure

[harvick#1]

Hamlin leading, followed by Busch, Biffle, Kenseth, Harvick, McMurray, Bowyer

[e2mtt]

Bad luck for Tony.

Jr. is up to 8th, still running great lap times.

Newman... crashes. (Sienfeld voice there)

[slorydn1]

same old bristol wreck fest...caution on lap 309

[e2mtt]

(and the Gators are up 10 with 8:14 to go...)

[harvick#1]

looks like the NCAA wants a rematch of last year

[e2mtt]

that was a funny commercial... about putting the mother in law in a nursing home.

[harvick#1]

watch Harvick hes up to 4th :D

[harvick#1]

Mike Bliss is 10th right now :up:

[slorydn1]

i love the ups commercial with Ned Jarrett....priceless!

[slorydn1]

lapping is ocuuring again....denny hamilin is wearing em out now...29 still 4th

[slorydn1]

with the 17 gallon fuel cell they should be able to go the distance anytime from lap 370 on.....16 is starting to smoke....its now lap 350

[harvick#1]

Come on Harv

[slorydn1]

for all the 24 fans....Gordon seems to have turned up the WICK...he's now up to 6th

[slorydn1]

figures....the 48 gets lapped and the caution comes out....but in nascars defense, Harvick was screaming on the radio about debris in 4 before the yellow came out

[Erki]

Pretty nice fix. :s mokin: :rolleyes:

[harvick#1]

you can't tell me thats more rigged :mad:

[slorydn1]

lap 369...gonna be C-LOSE on fuel

[slorydn1]

and fox showed the debris...a bumper bar WAY down on the apron

[slorydn1]

top 10 after the pits

11
16
5
29
07
8
24
40
26
31

[slorydn1]

another caution.....

[harvick#1]

and here comes the cautions :rolleyes:

[slorydn1]

vickers is the lucy dog

[Hoss Ghoul]

Sure seems as though the majority of cars on the lead lap have run a quiet race today. Bliss, Bowyer, Burton, Earnhardt, etc...just keeping their nose clean and making laps.

[slorydn1]

quicky yellow.....one to go at the line

[slorydn1]

p3...thank you

[slorydn1]

p2!

[harvick#1]

2nd, fastest guy too :D

[harvick#1]

P1 :D

[slorydn1]

ahhhhhhhhhhhh..........

[harvick#1]

40th to 1st

[slorydn1]

damn...cautions out...debris in 4

[slorydn1]

29 will pit...35 green flag laps

[harvick#1]

come on good stop

[e2mtt]

SLOW stop by jr. & crew... his crew hasn't done him any favors lately.

[harvick#1]

Harvick will pass him back

[slorydn1]

harvick keeps refusing to talk to tv

[harvick#1]

its Hamlin, Harvick, Ky. Busch, J. Gordon, Biffle, Bowyer top 6

[e2mtt]

O/T: Florida Gators win, go to the final 4!

[slorydn1]

damn...more debris...more commercials

[e2mtt]

another STUPID debris... NASCAR, clean the track under caution!!!

[slorydn1]

O/T: Florida Gators win, go to the final 4!
Cool :up:

[harvick#1]

hopefully Nascar will talk to the 11 on that restart.

and the NCAA is rigged anyway

[slorydn1]

quicky yellow

[slorydn1]

one to go at the line...aww heck, everything is rigged these days

[Erki]

I hope 29 and 11 are still OK after that restart...

[harvick#1]

commercials sure aren't quicky :mark:

[DonnieDarco]

This is some kind of a joke, surely??????? If I wanted a procession, I could watch F1! At least I actually get to watch that, boring though it might be :D

I cannot believe the amount of useless cautions, or how long it takes to sweep debris up. I could do it faster :D

[e2mtt]

More complaining from me... Fox just missed a restart, not doing commercial, but actually doing their long, graphic heavy, goofy intros.

[slorydn1]

i knew it needed to stay green...it seems the 29 has adjusted itself out of contention....

[slorydn1]

harv is 1 mph slower....damn it

[slorydn1]

29 pushing like a dump truck...damn it

[slorydn1]

in commercial....16 just passed the 29...29 is 4th, and Harvick is uttering really bad words on the radio

[harvick#1]

Damn Barrier again, the car was near perfect, and he completely junked it :mad:

[slorydn1]

24 passed the 29....24 4th...29 5th

[e2mtt]

Damn Barrier again, the car was near perfect, and he completely junked it :mad:

Aw don't feel bad, he could have Tony Eury Jr. & crew...

[slorydn1]

31 5th, 29 6th

[harvick#1]

there is gonna be a caution

[slorydn1]

40 6th, 29 7th....dump truck

[e2mtt]

was that Harvick going into the pits?

[slorydn1]

berrier wants to pit....harvick concurrs

[Erki]

20 slows 11 down and 5 passes it for the lead. Pretty ironic..

[e2mtt]

no it wasn't

[slorydn1]

was that Harvick going into the pits?
not under green, no

[slorydn1]

now i hope they wait until lap 491 to restart....single file restart...29 will be p10 with fresh tires

[slorydn1]

correction, p8 with fresh condoms

[slorydn1]

can you say GWC at bristol!!!!

[harvick#1]

Burton will do a bump in run, Harvick is gonna still win :D

[e2mtt]

oh boy. Gordon or Burton. byby Hamlin.

[harvick#1]

damn it Nascar gave Biffle the spot over Harvick, those asses :mad:

[Erki]

How sweet was that caution? :p :

[harvick#1]

I wish Burton wasn't so nice some times :p :

[slorydn1]

margin of victory for busch...

.064 seconds

[e2mtt]

hmmf.

[harvick#1]

that was a great move but Burton on Gordon though, Harvick also did the same thing to Biffle for 4th

[slorydn1]

top 10

5
31
24
29
16
66
8
07
26
25

[slorydn1]

well, like i said early in the race....same old bristol...
If the announcers would have stopped bringing up the COT, I really forgot all about the new car......

[SOD]

good finish. luckily for Busch , he had Burton & Gordon behind him.

[harvick#1]

well, like i said early in the race....same old bristol...
If the announcers would have stopped bringing up the COT, I really forgot all about the new car......

exactly, I really hope Fox shuts up with themselves keep saying CoT.

its like the audience is 5 years old and they have to resay everything people already know.

[GARYGAZZA]

Hats off to Jeff Burton he could have easily taken Busch and himself out on that last lap.Could prove the move of his season so far if it goes down to the wire after 26 or 36 races.

[harvick#1]

so it looked like Ray, Joe, and Richard were the best teams with the car. those Hendrick cars really struggled with the except of Busch, only Gordon made head-way on the car.

I thought Casey Mears was gonna take that 25 way to the front every time. :rolleyes:

Joe Gibbs was the class of the field, but engine trouble ruined that chance to win it

RCR looked to have the two best cars at the end with Burton and Harvick. Bowyer also had a great run to finish 8th.

[RaikkonenRules]

Here's what the standings would look like with Moto GP points


1 Jimmie Johnson 66
2 Jeff Gordon 66
3 Jeff Burton 63
4 Matt Kenseth 59
5 Mark Martin 48
6 Kevin Harvick 38
7 Tony Stewart 37
8 Kyle Busch 32
9 Clint Bowyer 28
10 Carl Edwards 23
11 Denny Hamlin 23
12 Dale Earnhardt. Jr 16
13 Kurt Busch 14
14 Jamie McMurray 14
15 Mike Wallace 13
16 Elliott Sadler 12
17 Ryan Newman 12
18 Martin Truex Jr. 12
19 Greg Biffle 12
20 Jaun Pablo Montoya 11
21 David Stremme 11
22 David Ragan 11
23 Jeff Green 10
24 Kasey Kahne 9
25 Joe Nemechek 9
26 David Gilliland 8
27 JJ Yeley 7
28 Brain Vickers 7
29 Casey Mears 6
30 Bobby Labonte 3
31 Boris Said 2
32 Robby Gordon 1

[Erki]

You forgot to add:

33 Michael Waltrip -100 :p :

[harvick#1]

:laugh:

[dont_be_jack]

I honestly feel terrible that he's still in that hole...

[R. Mears]

Think he'll be in positive points by the end of the season? :D

[RaikkonenRules]

Think he'll be in positive points by the end of the season? :D

He should make Talladega which will put him in positive points unless he gets disqualified again. :laugh:

[harvick#1]

I honestly feel terrible that he's still in that hole...

you know I would too, but then 400 Napa commercials come on, and then I just laugh agian

[RaceFanStan]

For now the short tracks offer Michael Waltrip a chance to get out of 54th in points & the -27.
If he could just be 1 of the 7 fastest cars outside the top 35 & get into the field ..... :s