Name that Car 2

[Alexamateo]

Bingo :up: You're up! :wave:

[szautke]

Driver, Car and/or chassis, track, year, :p

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i100/szautke/warren73-1.jpg

[Chris R]

wow - now there's a cool picture! :)

It is obviously a big wing era shot of an updated old car...

my guess:

Bently Warren
Eagle-Offy
1972 Indy

[Phoenixent]

Driver-Bently Warren
Car-Eagle-Offy
Year-1972
Track-Indy

[szautke]

Correct driver, correct car, wrong track, wrong year.

[Chris R]

Trenton
1973

[szautke]

Trenton
1973

We have the correct year. Wrong track. Hint-it's under 2-miles.

[Chris R]

ok, Milwaukee....

boy - you practically had to give that one away!! ;)

[Phoenixent]

Driver-Bently Warren
Car-Eagle-Offy
Year-1973
Track-Phoenix

[szautke]

I'll give it to Chris.

Yes, it was Bentley Warren in the Bay State Racing Eagle-Offy at the 1973 Bettenhausen 200 race at Milwaukee (West Allis), WI :D

Chris you're up...

[Alexamateo]

I see we're up over a 1000 posts again. What # did we get to in the old forum?

[Chris R]

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l91/cbruske/M15A.jpg

ok, here is another older one. I actually do not know the driver or track for sure (I think it is likely Indy). So name the car and year and possible drivers.....

[Phoenixent]

Driver-Carl Williams
Car-McLaren M15-Offy
Year-1970
Track-Indy

[BobGarage]

I see we're up over a 1000 posts again. What # did we get to in the old forum?

1408

[Chris R]

Driver-Carl Williams
Car-McLaren M15-Offy
Year-1970
Track-Indy

good enough. other potential drivers are/were Chris Amon and Peter Revson (both apparently practiced and tried to qualify the car...)

your turn!!

[Chris R]

1408


we're gaining on it :D

that is a lot of posts between the two threads..... (stating the obvious huh??)

[Alexamateo]

good enough. other potential drivers are/were Chris Amon and Peter Revson (both apparently practiced and tried to qualify the car...)

your turn!!

So Can anyone identify the driver by face or helmet? It that in fact Carl Williams?

[Phoenixent]

So Can anyone identify the driver by face or helmet? It that in fact Carl Williams?

Here is a photo of Carl Williams after qualifing for Indy 1970. Notice the helmet in both photos. ;)

http://shutter10.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/14/004/61/DD/8A/CA/35DHBl5+LXQ-yVw9p0fOl1G0ctXm-B1o0248.jpg

New photo coming up next.

[Phoenixent]

Driver, Year, Car, & Track

http://shutter08.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/12/002/7F/BD/E6/24/W7VDE4ZM2bzywrzbDxwmgJzA6WRQ-22l012C.jpg

[Phoenixent]

good enough. other potential drivers are/were Chris Amon and Peter Revson (both apparently practiced and tried to qualify the car...)

your turn!!

Great Photo.

Carl Williams replaced Denis Hulme who was burned on his hands. Peter Revson drove the #73 at Indy 500 and the #75 at Ontario 500. Peter Revson and Cris Amon both practiced the #75 car but the helmets were different colors.

[Alexamateo]

Driver, Year, Car, & Track

http://shutter08.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/12/002/7F/BD/E6/24/W7VDE4ZM2bzywrzbDxwmgJzA6WRQ-22l012C.jpg

Spike Gelhausen
Trenton 1978
Eagle-Offy

[Phoenixent]

Spike Gelhausen
Trenton 1978
Eagle-Offy

Right Driver,Car and Year. :up:

Keep Digging. :)

[garyshell]

we're gaining on it :D

that is a lot of posts between the two threads..... (stating the obvious huh??)


Forget the post count. Look at the view count 34,000 +!!!

:eek: :eek: :eek:

Gary

[Alexamateo]

Right Driver,Car and Year. :up:

Keep Digging. :)

Is it Ontario?

[Phoenixent]

Is it Ontario?

You Are Correct. :bounce:

Your Turn. :up:

[Alexamateo]

You Are Correct. :bounce:

Your Turn. :up:

the ususal please!

[Chris R]

Nice photo of a pretty rare car!

Gary Bettenhausen
1978
Dargon-Drake/Offy
Milwaukee?

[Alexamateo]

Everything except the track! :)

[IMSAFAN1]

poccono....

[IMSAFAN1]

sorry not poccono.....this track has banking......let's try ontario then

[Phoenixent]

Driver- Gary Bettenhausen
Year- 1978
Car- Dragon-Offy
Track- Indy

[Alexamateo]

Driver- Gary Bettenhausen
Year- 1978
Car- Dragon-Offy
Track- Indy

Phoenix has it! :bounce:

[Phoenixent]

Driver, Year, Car, & Track

http://shutter04.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/10/005/5D/D5/87/66/1v6kZsL5dzijrdykOo5vkeDssR3VTshl0258.jpg

[Chris R]

Lloyd Ruby
Phoenix
1975
Eagle Offy
???

really I was just searching for a number 7 Eagle and this is the first I found!!

[Phoenixent]

Lloyd Ruby
Phoenix
1975
Eagle Offy
???

really I was just searching for a number 7 Eagle and this is the first I found!!

Ruby did drive this car in 1975. But it's not the driver in the photo or the correct year.

Right Track, and Car. :up:

Keep Digging you will enjoy it when you find it. ;)

[Chris R]

hmm, ok - lets go with Gordon Johncock at the first Phoenix race in 1974 - kinda of looks like his style of helmet...

question is - if it is Gordy why weren't they in STP colors for this race???

[Phoenixent]

hmm, ok - lets go with Gordon Johncock at the first Phoenix race in 1974 - kinda of looks like his style of helmet...

question is - if it is Gordy why weren't they in STP colors for this race???

Right Track. Wrong Year and Driver.

I believe the STP sponsorship for Patrick racing in 1974 was only for the 500 mile races. At Trenton the colors were blue with gold lightning bolts.

[Chris R]

I am pulling up big blanks here - how about Steve Krisloff practicing in a backup car at the first CART race in 1979???

[Phoenixent]

I am pulling up big blanks here - how about Steve Krisloff practicing in a backup car at the first CART race in 1979???

Wrong Year and Driver.

Hint: When this driver was issued a licence from USAC to drive many other drivers threatened to boycott the race.

Hint: Also this driver was the first of many.

[Chris R]

ok, nice hint - I think I have it - although I cannot get the numbersto match...

Arlene Hiss
1976
Phoenix
Eagle-Offy
problem is she raced #51 - guessing this is rookie test or practice car....

[Phoenixent]

ok, nice hint - I think I have it - although I cannot get the numbersto match...

Arlene Hiss
1976
Phoenix
Eagle-Offy
problem is she raced #51 - guessing this is rookie test or practice car....

You Are Correct. :bounce:

This car was #7 during her test and her coaches were some big guns back then Lloyd Ruby, Gordon Johncock, and Roger McCluskey. The team was Copper States Racing for Arlene Hiss at Phoenix.

Your Turn.

[Phoenixent]

Here is the unmodified photo of Arlene Hiss for you to see. Her mane is so large on the cockpit that it would have been real easy. Enjoy. :)

http://shutter06.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/06/00A/3F/FD/1E/81/v2SK-1KrXQL67Q9nT11xACAf-zUxQJN502EE.jpg

[Chris R]

nice photo find - it goers to show how important Indy is - everyone knows who Janet Guthrie is but most of us probably forgot Arlene Hiss.....

Here's the next.....

[IMSAFAN1]

ok i'm taking a shot at this..hard to see the picture. Rick Mears....PC-3...track looks like riverside...year...80's

[mlv]

Could it be...
Johnny Rutherford
March82C
Riverside
1982

[Chris R]

mlv has it!!

your turn

[mlv]

Ok, something extremely rare...
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/6751/whorj1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Usual questions...

[teamsuperimu]

I have no idea, but that is stunning photo!!! :)

[Phoenixent]

Driver- John Mahler
Year- 1980
Car- Finley PC6-Offy
Track- Mexico City

[mlv]

You are right Phoenixent.
Its Bill Finley built PC6 replica at Mexico.
The "Ovaciones" car. Only image i`ve ever seen.
Your turn.

[Phoenixent]

You are right Phoenixent.
Its Bill Finley built PC6 replica at Mexico.
The "Ovaciones" car. Only image i`ve ever seen.
Your turn.

Very Cool Photo. :up:

I can't imagine that it handled very well since the original design was for a Cosworth.

New photo coming up next.

[Phoenixent]

Driver, Year, Car, & Track

http://shutter01.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/07/001/5F/D7/25/9D/se59icffOCMvfNufCYtnnWi6TELrUFGP0258.jpg

[Alexamateo]

Janet Guthrie
Volstedt-Offy
1976
Indy

[Phoenixent]

Janet Guthrie
Volstedt-Offy
1976
Indy

Right Car. :up:

Keep Digging. :)

[Alexamateo]

Tom Bigelow Ontario 1975

[Chris R]

Jerry Karl
Ontario
1978
Vollestedt-Offy

[Phoenixent]

Tom Bigelow Ontario 1975

Wrong Driver, Track and Year.

Keep Digging. :up:

[Phoenixent]

Jerry Karl
Ontario
1978
Vollestedt-Offy

Wrong Driver, Track and Year.

Keep Digging. :up:

[BobGarage]

Tom Gloy
1977
Vollestedt-Offy
Phoenix

[Phoenixent]

Tom Gloy
1977
Vollestedt-Offy
Phoenix

You are Correct. :up: :bounce:

The photo show Tom Gloy's first ever Champ Car drive.

Yor Turn.

[BobGarage]

the usual please....

[CCFanatic]

Tag
Homestead testing
2000
Reynard.


too easy bob.

[BobGarage]

Tag
Homestead testing
2000
Reynard.


too easy bob.

well done, thats the last time I use that source for photos for this thread ;)

[CCFanatic]

You know what to do.









Please do not reply Bob

[Phoenixent]

Driver- Memo Gidley
Year- 1999
Car- Lola B99-Ford
Track- Laguna Seca

[CCFanatic]

I thought that one would be tough. Your turn.

[Phoenixent]

I thought that one would be tough. Your turn.

Nice photo. :up:

New Photo coming up.

[Phoenixent]

Driver, Year, Car, & Track

http://shutter01.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/05/00A/5F/7D/7B/26/MQVvkQ7DbozkJlksXzgXZZB9OdPmXWp00226.jpg

[Chris R]

Bobby Olivero
Phoenix
1982
PC-7 Cosworth

[Phoenixent]

Bobby Olivero
Phoenix
1982
PC-7 Cosworth

Correct. :up:

Your Turn.

[Chris R]

nice photo - you seem to have found a treasure trove of Phoenix pictures! :)

new one coming up soon....

[Chris R]

here's the next one - the usual please

[Chris R]

btw - anybody seethis week's autoweek?

awesome story, picture of a dream Indy 500 grid.....

[mlv]

Dennis Firestone
March83C-Cossie
Vegas 1984

To Phoenixent
Image of Olivero in 82 is really astonishing :eek: :eek: :eek:

[Chris R]

mlv has it (do you know where I found those last two photos???) :D

your turn!!

[mlv]

Yes, i know... :s mokin:
I continue as well with something unusual (I hope).
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/8150/whoah7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Usual questions...

[BobGarage]

teo fabi
march cosworth
1983
Michigan
???

[mlv]

Yes, its Fabi in 1983 in March but not at MIS.
Try agein

[Phoenixent]

Driver-Teo Fabi
Car-March 83C-Cosworth
Year-1983
Track-Atlanta

[mlv]

Yes, of course its season opener Atlanta - only time Fabi`s car had such a livery. Beautiful paintjob. Since Indy 500 this car had famous Skoal Bandit colours. Your turn.

[Phoenixent]

Yes, of course its season opener Atlanta - only time Fabi`s car had such a livery. Beautiful paintjob. Since Indy 500 this car had famous Skoal Bandit colours. Your turn.

Great Photo. :up:

Did not know that Fabi's car started the season that way.

New Photo Coming up.

[Phoenixent]

Driver, Year, Car, & Track

http://shutter10.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/10/007/5F/7D/7B/26/z+VrsBWerAQr2Kllbe5t1ba7XlbWW6Kt01F4.jpg

[mlv]

Another superb image but i guess i`ve seen b/w pic of this car before.
Al Loquasto in George T. Smith`s (GTS Racing) ancient(circa 1973-74) Eagle-Offy in 1982 at Phoenix agein.

[Phoenixent]

You are correct. :up:

Have come across several photos from Phoenix will show more later.

Your Turn.

[mlv]

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/3334/who2er1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
who,where,what & when ?

[Chris R]

let's try:
1979
Wally Dallenbach
Wildcat-Cosworth
Phoenix

[mlv]

Correct Chris
Your turn

[Chris R]

great photo - I was debating if it was a testing photo of a Drake V-8.....

new one coming up soon.....

[Chris R]

here we go - the usual please....

[Alexamateo]

Gordon Johncock
Indy 1965
Watson-Offy

[Chris R]

you got it!!

Alex's turn :D

[Alexamateo]

Here's the next one!, theu usual please.

[Chris R]

nice photo...

1969
Art Pollard
Gerhardt "Superwedge"
Not sure if it is the Plymouth or Offy version
Indy???

Pretty cool looking car - although I have to say it does not look all that effective (and I guess it wasn't)....

[Alexamateo]

You got it! I think it's the Plymouth version, but I'm not 100% sure.

[Chris R]

hmmm - trying to upload - guess I'll post a new one later........

[Chris R]

ok, here's a fairly easy one and a reminder that our sport can be dangerous, even to the best......

[ykiki]

Emmo
Michigan
1996
PC-25

I remember how my heart sank when his injuries were announced. I knew that would probably end the career of one of the sports great racers and gentlemen.

[Chris R]

you've got it...

yes, I remember feeling that way too. I have to confess that I find it interesting how much punishment that these machines and their drivers can take - but it is also very sobering how fragile they can be as well.....

your turn!!

[ykiki]

Here ya go...

[Alexamateo]

Here ya go...

Lee Roy Yarbrough
Indy 1966
Gerhardt-Offy

[IMSAFAN1]

Lotus Type 42...1967....supposed to have the BRM H16 motor in it..ran with a ford V8...track is Indy not sure of driver

[Phoenixent]

Driver- George Snider
Year- 1967
Car- Lotus-Ford
Track- Indy

[ykiki]

Lee Roy Yarbrough
Indy 1966
Gerhardt-Offy


Lotus Type 42...1967....supposed to have the BRM H16 motor in it..ran with a ford V8...track is Indy not sure of driver


Driver- George Snider
Year- 1967
Car- Lotus-Ford
Track- Indy

Alexamateo is the closest. The year is 1966 and the car is a Gerhardt-Offy. Wrong track and driver.

Bonus points for naming the two gentlemen to the driver's right.

[Phoenixent]

Driver-Art Pollard
Car- Gerhardt-Offy
Year- 1966
Track- Milwaukee

Bonus- Virgil "Gus" Grissom , and Gordon Cooper

[ykiki]

Driver-Art Pollard
Car- Gerhardt-Offy
Year- 1966
Track- Milwaukee

Bonus- Virgil "Gus" Grissom , and Gordon Cooper

Ding!Ding!Ding! We have a winner!

[Phoenixent]

Ding!Ding!Ding! We have a winner!

Great Photo. :up:

Had to enlarge it to see who the two men were. Virgil Grissom bought a Corvette from Jim Rathman owner of the 76 car. But I did not know Grissom and Cooper were part owners in the same car. Very Cool that a pair of Mercury "7" astronauts were involved in the sport we love.

New Photo Coming Up.

[Phoenixent]

Driver, Year, Car, & Track

http://shutter04.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/11/006/1A/FB/4D/2F/pO0bBlXPVXGx7PK5n-Q+T4VKY7DixISu015E.jpg

[Civic]

Gil de Ferran
Reynard-Honda R98I
1998

[Civic]

Road America?

[Phoenixent]

Gil de Ferran
Reynard-Honda R98I
1998

Right Car and Year. :up:
Wrong Driver. :(

Keep Digging.

Hint on the track: It's about 2800 miles from Road America. ;)

[ykiki]

Right Car and Year. :up:
Wrong Driver. :(

Keep Digging.

Hint on the track: It's about 2800 miles from Road America. ;)

Danny Sullivan on a test drive at Laguna Seca 1998.

[Phoenixent]

Danny Sullivan on a test drive at Laguna Seca 1998.

:bounce: You Got It. :up:

Cool test drive for Danny back then.

Your Turn.

[ykiki]

Wasn't Danny S. doing CART TV back then? Can't remember if he took the car out for a test-drive as part of the track description segment of the broadcast.

Anyway, here's the next pic. I have a feeling that Phoenixent might get this one...

[Phoenixent]

Wasn't Danny S. doing CART TV back then? Can't remember if he took the car out for a test-drive as part of the track description segment of the broadcast.



Yes Danny was doing TV reporting back then. Not like now were we have to listen to non-winners and non-open wheel racers talk all race long. Back then they had annoucers that won a Champ Car race. :)

Photo is

Driver- Vincenzo Sospiri
Year- 1998
Car- Eagle 987-Toyota
Track- Laguna Seca

[ykiki]

Yes Danny was doing TV reporting back then. Not like now were we have to listen to non-winners and non-open wheel racers talk all race long. Back then they had annoucers that won a Champ Car race. :)

Photo is

Driver- Vincenzo Sospiri
Year- 1998
Car- Eagle 987-Toyota
Track- Laguna Seca

You are correct on the photo. I kind of felt bad for Sospiri. He was a F3000 champ in 95, but then moved up to F1 with perhaps the worst car in recent history - the MasterCard Lola.

I liked having Danny in the booth. However, for me the CART/CCWS driver turned commentator that I miss the most is Parker Johnstone. I thought he did a great job of explaining the technical and engineering side of racing. He could put it in terms that an "average" person could understand, yet not sound like he's talking to a preschooler.

[Phoenixent]

You are correct on the photo. I kind of felt bad for Sospiri. He was a F3000 champ in 95, but then moved up to F1 with perhaps the worst car in recent history - the MasterCard Lola.

I liked having Danny in the booth. However, for me the CART/CCWS driver turned commentator that I miss the most is Parker Johnstone. I thought he did a great job of explaining the technical and engineering side of racing. He could put it in terms that an "average" person could understand, yet not sound like he's talking to a preschooler.

Sospiri ended up with a dog in CART also. But in all due fairness the Toyota was the dog powerplant. I believe the Eagle would have scored better if it had a Honda in it.

I agree with you on Parker Johnstone wish he was back at least CC announcers are sightly better than IRL announcers but both series are junk.

New Photo coming up.

[Phoenixent]

Driver, Year, Car, & Track

http://shutter02.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/10/005/3E/7F/93/89/dvjA3Xbl4iDDF9hGkkdKyI6Ie8LRILjb0190.jpg

[ykiki]

Driver, Year, Car, & Track

http://shutter02.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/10/005/3E/7F/93/89/dvjA3Xbl4iDDF9hGkkdKyI6Ie8LRILjb0190.jpg

Enrique Mansilla
Lola-Cosworth
Mid Ohio
1985

[Phoenixent]

Enrique Mansilla
Lola-Cosworth
Mid Ohio
1985

You are Correct. :bounce:

Unique photo of a driver that only ran 3 races. Liike his helmet reminds me of Snake Oiler's helmet from Speed Racer. :)

Your Turn.

[ykiki]

You are Correct. :bounce:

Unique photo of a driver that only ran 3 races. Liike his helmet reminds me of Snake Oiler's helmet from Speed Racer. :)

Your Turn.

I was going to comment on his helmet, but couldn't find the right words - you nailed it! Gotta love the Car Acrobatics Team.

Here's the next photo:

[Civic]

I was wondering why Gil looked "taller"! I just thought it was RA because I remember Gil ran the 5x car at RA and I remember wondering about the "x" after the number. At the time I didn't know that it signified the backup car.

[IMSAFAN1]

still working on the other stuff but the track looks like Mosport.

[Chris R]

Tom Bagley
1978 Mosport
Watson-Offy

awesome photo!!

so how did you get this photo off that site????? I have been trying to share those for a while.....

[ykiki]

Tom Bagley
1978 Mosport
Watson-Offy

awesome photo!!

so how did you get this photo off that site????? I have been trying to share those for a while.....

Chris R is correct. However, he's unable to respond at this time, so IMSAFAN1 can go ahead and post if you'd like.

[IMSAFAN1]

ok here's my pick

[CCFanatic]

What in the hell is that awful looking thing? Someonbe quick tell me so I know what I am killing.

[Alexamateo]

"Quack, Quack" :p : :D :)

[garyshell]

"Quack, Quack" :p : :D :)

It does sort of remind one of a duck billed platypus!

Gary

[-Helix-]

Looks like those NASCAR featherlite cars.

[Phoenixent]

Nice Photo IMSAFAN1. :up:

Not sure what year that is but it was a cool attempt to hold on to the past.

This should keep some busy. :)

[CCFanatic]

Indy
Mid 70's(not a clue)
Parnelli Jone(I have no clue)
Parnelli(that is my guess for car)

[ykiki]

Jim Hurtubise
Mallard Offy (haha I get the "quack" joke a few posts above)
Indy
1975

[IMSAFAN1]

correct

[ykiki]

Continuing with the Mallard theme...

Congratulations Anaheim Ducks!!!

[ykiki]

I've cropped the picture as to make it a little less easy for some of you.

Here ya go.

[BobGarage]

bobby unser
eagle offy
1974
indy

[BobGarage]

or maybe

jerry grant
1972
eagle offy
indy

[Phoenixent]

Driver Jerry Grant
Year-1972
Car-Eagle-Offy
Track- Ontario Motor Speedway

[ykiki]

Driver Jerry Grant
Year-1972
Car-Eagle-Offy
Track- Ontario Motor Speedway

BobGarage was so close, but Phoenixent wins. Ironic that Grant gets the pole by flying past the 200 mph mark, but ends up finishing last in the race with a blown engine.

[Phoenixent]

BobGarage was so close, but Phoenixent wins. Ironic that Grant gets the pole by flying past the 200 mph mark, but ends up finishing last in the race with a blown engine.

What gave it away was the words Olsonite Eagle on the below the wind screen. Grants car was Mystery Eagle at Indy and Olsonite at Ontario.

Here's a photo of a Eagle representing Jerry Grant's OMS car.
http://shutter04.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/10/006/7D/97/9E/52/lEoDCp3X1MmSJ5CdOXhkTDTXlAsOZQwl0264.jpg

New photo coming up.

[Phoenixent]

Driver, Year, Car, & Track

http://shutter10.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/10/007/5F/7D/7B/26/z+VrsBWerAQr2Kllbe5t1ba7XlbWW6Kt01F4.jpg

[BobGarage]

Al Loquasto
McLaren - Offy
1975
Phoenix

[Phoenixent]

Al Loquasto
McLaren - Offy
1975
Phoenix

Right Driver and Track. :up:

Keep Digging.

[djarumdudley]

Al Loquasto
1982
Eagle-Offy
Phoenix

[Phoenixent]

Al Loquasto
1982
Eagle-Offy
Phoenix

You are Correct. :bounce:

I did not think that this photo would sit so long without someone taking a shot at it. Almost a week not bad.

Your Turn.

[djarumdudley]

here's the next:

[BobGarage]

Darin Brassfield
1988
Mid-Ohio
Lola - Cosworth

[djarumdudley]

correct, your go.

[BobGarage]

the usual please....

[Phoenixent]

Driver- Chico Serra
Year- 1985
Car- Theodore 84-Cosworth
Track- Portland

[BobGarage]

Good call, your turn.

[Phoenixent]

Cool Photo of Chico.

Time to take a trip on the Way Back Machine. :)

Driver, Year, Car, & Track

http://shutter03.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/13/002/27/FF/76/52/n4J37PXk1kWJgFXDL8FbDTxvJtZBFtNS0190.jpg

[Alexamateo]

Larry Dickson
Gerhardt-Ford
Fuji, Japan
1966

[Chris R]

I've been on vacation for a week - you guys posted some nice photos while I was gone - who knew somebody tried to qualify an old Eagle-Offy with a McLaren engine cover as late as 1982...

[Phoenixent]

Larry Dickson
Gerhardt-Ford
Fuji, Japan
1966

You are Correct. :up:

Your Turn.

[Alexamateo]

Thanks Phoenix! It's not that I am that great a identifier of cars & tracks, but I know Walter Zoomie! ;)

(At least I think that's where you got it) :erm:

That said, If someone would like to post a photo, please feel free to go in my stead. I am leaving in a few hours and will be gone until Tuesday.

[Walter Zoomie]

Oh really?

;)

[Walter Zoomie]

That was a cool photo of Dennis Firestone. :up:

Now it's time to go in Mr.Peabody's wayback machine. :)

Driver, Year, Car, & Track

http://shutter14.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/07/008/63/F3/79/5B/ciOlL+S1JLLYKIiAMy1F4F34VJw4Fdlt01E5.jpg

nice shot :)

[Phoenixent]

nice shot :)

Same to you on your Photos. ;) It hard to keep ahead of these guys sometimes. You have helped a lot with that. Thanks. :up:

[Phoenixent]

Well since AM is away for a bit I will post a new photo. Enjoy. :up:

Driver, Year, Car, & Track

http://shutter08.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/13/003/7F/7D/B9/1E/u+t5Rc5dmp0ry8yW6dUpqvSa4H6EHpXt020A.jpg

[Phoenixent]

:rolleyes: It's awful quite in here. :)

[Chris R]

yeah, vacations, work after vacation (twice as hard as normal work), family stuff - amazing how truly important stuff can keep me away from this fun stuff (although it is a much needed diversion!!).... :)

anyhow - lets try:

Rick Mears
1980 Ontario
PC-7 Penske

I guess he ran this before the new PC-9 with the snazzy paint job was ready....

[Alexamateo]

Oh really?

;)

Hey Zoomie! 5 posts in 5 years, you goin' for some kind of record!? :p :

BTW love the blogspot and your dad's photos :) :up:

Keep up the good work!

[Alexamateo]

yeah, vacations, work after vacation (twice as hard as normal work), family stuff - amazing how truly important stuff can keep me away from this fun stuff (although it is a much needed diversion!!).... :)

anyhow - lets try:

Rick Mears
1980 Ontario
PC-7 Penske

I guess he ran this before the new PC-9 with the snazzy paint job was ready....

Ditto on what Chris said about vacation, family, work etc.

and I'll guess the same driver and car, but I say it's Phoenix. ;)

[Phoenixent]

anyhow - lets try:

Rick Mears
1980 Ontario
PC-7 Penske

I guess he ran this before the new PC-9 with the snazzy paint job was ready....

You are Correct. :up:

I believe Rick had a problem with his PC-9 at Ontario as Bobby had his on track for the race.

Welcome back you two. I have been working as there is a threat of a strike and filming has been going mad for both TV and Features.

Your Turn Chris.

[Chris R]

Here's a pretty easy one - sorry if I posted it before....

[Walter Zoomie]

Hey Zoomie! 5 posts in 5 years, you goin' for some kind of record!? :p :

BTW love the blogspot and your dad's photos :) :up:

Keep up the good work!

Thanks. Never let it be said I am too wordy here. ;)

[Phoenixent]

Driver- A.J.Foyt Jr.
Year- 1971
Car- Coyote 71-Foyt
Track- Indianapolis Motor Speedway

[Chris R]

Phoenix has it! :D your turn!!

While this is one of hte lesser known Coyote's, I think it was one of the best looking "transition" cars from 69-71 when they started to adapt wings etc.....

[Phoenixent]

Phoenix has it! :D your turn!!

While this is one of hte lesser known Coyote's, I think it was one of the best looking "transition" cars from 69-71 when they started to adapt wings etc.....

It's interesting that Donnie Allison had some success with this car also during the 1971 season. Nice looking car for it's time. :up:

New Photo coming up.

[Phoenixent]

Driver, Year, Car, & Track

http://shutter09.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/12/005/35/7F/35/7C/B9Q4IsWk-n7qPtnlHqm-1-dfJtRlNTIn01DC.jpg

[Chris R]

wow - that looks like a stumper.... Looks like a road course - but nothing raced on in the relevant time frame.... Unless the picture is really distorted it looks like a strange marriage of an Eagle and a very early Parnelli.....

Lets try this for lack of a better guess:
Dan Murphy 25 Adams Automotive Cicada Offy TC -- Wrecked qualifying
Phoenix 1974

Question is - what the hewck is a Cicada (the race car, not the bug)

also, jsut came upon osmething of possible local interest to me. Anybody know anything about the Steve Durst whose entry was declined at the Ontario 500 in 1974???

[Alexamateo]

Looks like you got it Chris, I was saving a photo of a Cicada to try to stump you all later. It's funny, I was just fixing to post the same guess as you, guessing it was Phoenix,too, because Phoenix has been posting a lot of photos of Phoenix. I guess Phoenix came up with a treasure trove of Phoenix photos! :D ;) :)

[Chris R]

too funny!!

So, I guess the car is a strange marriage of a PArnelli and Eagle!! :p

[Phoenixent]

wow - that looks like a stumper.... Looks like a road course - but nothing raced on in the relevant time frame.... Unless the picture is really distorted it looks like a strange marriage of an Eagle and a very early Parnelli.....

Lets try this for lack of a better guess:
Dan Murphy 25 Adams Automotive Cicada Offy TC -- Wrecked qualifying
Phoenix 1974

Question is - what the hewck is a Cicada (the race car, not the bug)

also, jsut came upon osmething of possible local interest to me. Anybody know anything about the Steve Durst whose entry was declined at the Ontario 500 in 1974???

You are correct. :up:

Strange looking car but it has a cool paint job.

Your Turn.

Steve Durst I believe drove IMSA Camel GT Lights during the 80's-90's. Thats about all so far. Righting bios for driver before 1990 is tough I finished the one on Gordon Smiley but I know I missed some info.

[Phoenixent]

because Phoenix has been posting a lot of photos of Phoenix. I guess Phoenix came up with a treasure trove of Phoenix photos! :D ;) :)


Say that five times fast. :D :)

I believe your photo is of Jigger Sirois. Cool photo also of a rare car.

[Chris R]

here isthe next one. The usual please....

[Alexamateo]

Paul Goldsmith
Epperly Offy
1960 Indy

Possibly 1959 since the cars were virtually identical if not the same.

[Chris R]

you are correct!!

it is 1960 when he finished third....

your turn!

[Alexamateo]

you are correct!!

it is 1960 when he finished third....

your turn!

Here's the next one!

Driver, car, track, year.

[Chris R]

Tim Richmond
Indy 1981
Parnelli-Cosworth
car was qualified by Ziggy but "sold out from under him" - if I remember the quote from the Indy 500 yearbook correctly....

Thinking back (hindsight being 20/20) - losing Tim Richmond to NASCAR was the first sign that NASCAR was gaining momentum at the expense of the openwheelers.....

[Alexamateo]

Tim Richmond
Indy 1981
Parnelli-Cosworth
car was qualified by Ziggy but "sold out from under him" - if I remember the quote from the Indy 500 yearbook correctly....

Thinking back (hindsight being 20/20) - losing Tim Richmond to NASCAR was the first sign that NASCAR was gaining momentum at the expense of the openwheelers.....

You got it! :bounce:


Technically, I might even be in that picture, Stand J, 11 year old kid, Do you see me? ;)

[cartpix]

You got it! :bounce:


Technically, I might even be in that picture, Stand J, 11 year old kid, Do you see me? ;)

Oh yeah, I thought that looked like you.

Jeff

[Chris R]

here's the next

[Phoenixent]

Driver- Jochen Rindt
Year- 1967
Car- Eagle-Westlake
Track- Indianapolis Motor Speedway

[Chris R]

Phoenix has it! :up:

Your turn

kinda bummed we didn't get one Dan Gurney guess..... :(

[Alexamateo]

Phoenix has it! :up:

Your turn

kinda bummed we didn't get one Dan Gurney guess..... :(

FWIW My first thought was Dan Gurney when I saw the thumbnail, but when I enlarged it, it was obviously not Dan Gurney.

[Phoenixent]

Phoenix has it! :up:

Your turn

kinda bummed we didn't get one Dan Gurney guess..... :(

It's strange that Gurney qualified the number 74 for that race. I guess the best way to find out is to ask Dan why.

New photo going up.

[Phoenixent]

Drivers, Cars, Year, & Track

http://shutter08.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/13/008/35/F9/78/3B/hLajSnQD0tEY+G0H1ZnLFNQspDzMyJHF0180.jpg

[Alexamateo]

Dan Gurney in the Lotus RE Ford, and AJ Foyt in the Trevis- Offy
Milwaukee 1963

[Phoenixent]

Dan Gurney in the Lotus RE Ford, and AJ Foyt in the Trevis- Offy
Milwaukee 1963

You are Correct AM. :up:

At least Chris had his Dan Gurney for today. :D

Cool photo that show the end of one generation of Champ Cars and a start of a new one. The finishing order was reversed from the picture but the last chapter of the front engine rodster had begun.

Your Turn.

[Alexamateo]

You are Correct AM. :up:

At least Chris had his Dan Gurney for today. :D

Cool photo that show the end of one generation of Champ Cars and a start of a new one. The finishing order was reversed from the picture but the last chapter of the front engine rodster had begun.

Your Turn.

THanks,

For this one, name the driver,track & year, because I am posting this not knowing what type of car it is. I usually rely on Phil Harms' data to confirm chassis type, but there is no info listed for this car. If anyone has any info on this car let us know, because I am curious.

[Phoenixent]

THanks,

For this one, name the driver,track & year, because I am posting this not knowing what type of car it is. I usually rely on Phil Harms' data to confirm chassis type, but there is no info listed for this car. If anyone has any info on this car let us know, because I am curious.

Driver- Rick Muther
Year- 1974
Car- Coyote 72-Foyt
Track- Indianapolis Motor Speedway

[Alexamateo]

Driver- Rick Muther
Year- 1974
Car- Coyote 72-Foyt
Track- Indianapolis Motor Speedway

wrong driver, wrong year,

I think you are right on the car, it looks to be a 72 Coyote

[Phoenixent]

Driver- Lee Brayton
Year- 1973
Car- Coyote 72-Foyt
Track- Indianapolis Motor Speedway

[Alexamateo]

You got it. Looking at the record, Scott's dad ran a few other races in the Coyote-Foyt #61 so that has to be it. I don't know why it's listed differently in the box score.

Anyway, you're up. :) :up:

[Phoenixent]

You got it. Looking at the record, Scott's dad ran a few other races in the Coyote-Foyt #61 so that has to be it. I don't know why it's listed differently in the box score.

It's interesting that they still have no info or the wrong info out there. That car was up for sale not to long ago. The Coyote MkIII or 72 was built by Foyt Racing using bulkheads purchased from AAR. The car was bought from Lee Brayton by Pat Patrick Racing and used as a show car.

New Photo Coming Up.

[Phoenixent]

Driver, Car, Year, & Track

http://shutter07.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/11/006/2F/FF/1F/FE/z05lWUMOzJNpwouTUIVZiu9RF9HGy5lE018E.jpg

[BobGarage]

Didier Theys
lola - cosworth
long beach
1987

[Phoenixent]

Didier Theys
lola - cosworth
long beach
1987

You are Correct. :up:

I knew this photo would not last long. ;)

Your Turn.

[CCFanatic]

Delete

[BobGarage]

this one probably wont last long either...

the usual please.

[szautke]

http://s70.photobucket.com/albums/i100/szautke/?action=view&current=indy20car20photo.jpg
Jim Hurtubise
Mallard Offy (haha I get the "quack" joke a few posts above)
Indy
1975

I have to object to this answer, it is not 1975. If you look there are no wings, the Mallard ran with Miller sponsorship via distributor Dick Hammond (NY) from 1971-1975. The Mallard sprouted wings in 1972 (ran at Michigan).
Thus it is 1971.

[szautke]

This is the Mallard at Michigan in 1972 with wings. ;)

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i100/szautke/20060424P_0001.jpg

This is good stuff. Must admit, the Arlene Hiss in the #7 Eagle-Offy posting from a couple of weeks ago did stump me.

[szautke]

this one probably wont last long either...

the usual please.

It's that lanky fella Chris Kneifel, I'll say Road America (1984) in the Primus.

[BobGarage]

It's that lanky fella Chris Kneifel, I'll say Road America (1984) in the Primus.

all right except the year

[szautke]

Rats, then it has to be 1983.

:dork:

[BobGarage]

correct, your turn

[szautke]

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i100/szautke/eagle-1980.jpg

[Phoenixent]

Driver- Mike Mosley
Year- 1980
Car- Eagle 80-Chevy
Track- Michigan

[szautke]

Driver- Mike Mosley
Year- 1980
Car- Eagle 80-Chevy
Track- Michigan

Correct on everything but the track.

[Phoenixent]

Driver- Mike Mosley
Year- 1980
Car- Eagle 80-Chevy
Track- Ontario

[szautke]

Correct ! Your turn. :hot:

[Phoenixent]

Driver, Car, Year, & Track

http://shutter08.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/13/007/17/D7/EF/96/tE+VWZENfaIdhRpi72oaOAu0RVjuSks00190.jpg

[Chris R]

That is one fine looking Eagle. I always liked the Jorgensen colors and I was pretty fond of that generation of Eagle too....

[Alexamateo]

Driver, Car, Year, & Track

http://shutter08.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/13/007/17/D7/EF/96/tE+VWZENfaIdhRpi72oaOAu0RVjuSks00190.jpg

Phil Krueger
March85C Cosworth
Michigan 1985

[Phoenixent]

Phil Krueger
March85C Cosworth
Michigan 1985

Sorry AM. :(

Keep Digging. :up:

[BobGarage]

Jim Hickman
March 81c cosworth
1982
Atlanta

[Phoenixent]

Jim Hickman
March 81c cosworth
1982
Atlanta

Right Driver,Car and Year. :up:

Keep Digging on the track.

[BobGarage]

Jim Hickman
March 81c cosworth
1982
milwaukee

[Phoenixent]

Jim Hickman
March 81c cosworth
1982
milwaukee

Right Driver,Car and Year.

Keep Digging on the track. :up:

[ykiki]

Jim Hickman
March 81c cosworth
1982
Michigan 500

[Phoenixent]

Jim Hickman
March 81c cosworth
1982
Michigan 500

You Are Correct. :bounce:

The photo was of last race before his fatal wreck at Milwaukee 3 weeks later. Interesting item while looking thru the race program for that Milwaukee race in August. It has a series of photos of Jim Hickman's car on the left side and then climbing the wall during practice. That wreck kept him from have much time on the Milwaukee mile and doomed to make the same mistake.

You Turn ykiki. :up:

[ykiki]

Ok, let's go for the usual. Driver, Car, Year. For the track, I've narrowed it down to 2. I think I know, but am not 100% positive.

[garyshell]

Belle Isle.

Driver?
Car?
Year?

Gary

[Phoenixent]

Driver- Giovanni Lavaggi
Year- 1994
Car- Lola T93-IIlmor
Track- Cleveland

[ykiki]

Driver- Giovanni Lavaggi
Year- 1994
Car- Lola T93-IIlmor
Track- Cleveland

We have a winner! It didn't take you long to identify good ol' Johnny Carwash.

[Phoenixent]

Driver, Car, Year, & Track

http://shutter04.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/12/008/7E/BC/CC/53/GcC2WAx5uKAgC6vyzJhWdNscwSA9FViy0190.jpg

[Chris R]

Art Pollard
Morris-Ford
1970 Phoenix race #2

now that is a car only a mother could love!! :eek:

[Phoenixent]

Art Pollard
Morris-Ford
1970 Phoenix race #2

now that is a car only a mother could love!! :eek:

Right Car and Track. :up:

Keep Digging.

I remember seeing this car at the first race my father took me to. Big difference from the kit cars of today as eveyone had their own idea for speed back then.

[Chris R]

George Snider
Spring 1971 in Phoenix....

I was about to change my entry - I relaized that was not Pollard's (almost alwasy white) helmet...

[Phoenixent]

George Snider
Spring 1971 in Phoenix....

I was about to change my entry - I relaized that was not Pollard's (almost alwasy white) helmet...

You Are Correct. :bounce:

Your Turn.

They sure had a different look back then and a ton of car builders.

[Chris R]

this is more of a sharing of a neat photo - car and year please (should be pretty easy...)

[Phoenixent]

this is more of a sharing of a neat photo - car and year please (should be pretty easy...)

Cool photo Chris. :up:

Car-Lotus-Ford
Track- Indianapolis Motor Speedway

[Phoenixent]

Nice picture, where did you find it?

Came out an old magazine I bought some pages that had ads on the back side. I just have this and a couple of other pages from it.

[Chris R]

Phoenix has it.... :D

1963 to be exact.... I jus think that is a classic shot from that era.....

your turn.....

[Phoenixent]

Phoenix has it.... :D

1963 to be exact.... I jus think that is a classic shot from that era.....

your turn.....

Thanks Chris. :D

I was hoping that someone would guess the driver also. That car sure looks small compared to today's cars.


New Photo coming Up

[Phoenixent]

Driver, Car, Year, & Track

http://shutter03.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/11/007/7E/FF/22/D5/TXUH6FIa-9wwJgXg0fhPlZXkqCA+i8n20240.jpg

For Bonus :) :) any other facts on this car.

[CCFanatic]

Driver, Car, Year, & Track

http://shutter03.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/11/007/7E/FF/22/D5/TXUH6FIa-9wwJgXg0fhPlZXkqCA+i8n20240.jpg

For Bonus :) :) any other facts on this car.

I will guess on a fact by saying it was one of the first cars at Indy to run a wing.

[Chris R]

For the record - that was the Lotus of Jim Clark.....

as for the current picture I am gonna guess Lee Brayton at Indy in 1973 in an Eagle-Offy that was very recently pruchased from PAt Patrick

[Alexamateo]

That's Lee Brayton in an Eagle-Offy 1974 @ Michigan, and the fun fact about the car is that not only was it purchased from Pat Patrick, it is Gordon Johncock's 1973 Indy 500 winning car. If you say you've seen the car in the Indy museum, you're wrong. The museum only has a replica, and it's actually a '74 ,model Eagle.

[Phoenixent]

That's Lee Brayton in an Eagle-Offy 1974 @ Michigan, and the fun fact about the car is that not only was it purchased from Pat Patrick, it is Gordon Johncock's 1973 Indy 500 winning car. If you say you've seen the car in the Indy museum, you're wrong. The museum only has a replica, and it's actually a '74 ,model Eagle.

Correct Driver, and Car. :up:

Wrong Year and Track. :(

:) :) :) For the bonus info. Gordon Johncock drove a 1972 Eagle to a sad victory at Indy 1973. Lee Brayton still owns the car as far as I know.

Keep Digging on the last two items.

[Phoenixent]

For the record - that was the Lotus of Jim Clark.....

as for the current picture I am gonna guess Lee Brayton at Indy in 1973 in an Eagle-Offy that was very recently pruchased from PAt Patrick

Correct Driver, Car, and Year. :up:

Wrong Track. :(

Keep Digging

I have a black and white photo of the Lotus at Milwaukee that year. I believe Dan Gurney drove a white Lotus for that race.

[Chris R]

Lets say (guess!!) Ontario, 1973, Lee BRayton, Eagle -Offy.....

[Chris R]

oh no - we were in danger of getting kicked off the front page!!

Since I am sure everyone is busy with summer stuff - here is a freebie while we are waiting for Phoenix to confrim (or not) my last answer....

just something I foundthat is apparently a historic racing photo....

[Phoenixent]

Lets say (guess!!) Ontario, 1973, Lee BRayton, Eagle -Offy.....

Correct Driver, Car, and Year. :up:

Wrong Track. :(

Keep Digging

[Phoenixent]

oh no - we were in danger of getting kicked off the front page!!

Since I am sure everyone is busy with summer stuff - here is a freebie while we are waiting for Phoenix to confrim (or not) my last answer....

just something I foundthat is apparently a historic racing photo....

Sorry about the delay had a rush order going overseas.

Nice photo of Al Unser Jr. and Rick Mears 1978 Penske PC-6 at Michigan. Do you have a larger copy of that photo?

[Chris R]

that is all I have on the Al Unser shot - I'll see if I can find the web site it came from again.....

[Chris R]

Ok, as for Brayton, I'll go with Alex's observation thatyou seemto have an awful lot of shot of Phoenix and say it is Phoenix..... (I don't think I have too many more tracks left to guess atthis point!!) :D

[Phoenixent]

Ok, as for Brayton, I'll go with Alex's observation thatyou seemto have an awful lot of shot of Phoenix and say it is Phoenix..... (I don't think I have too many more tracks left to guess atthis point!!) :D

Nope not Phoenix. :D

Hint: It's the same size as Phoenix and part of it was used to help design Pocono. ;)