Scrappage Scheme

[Bolton Midnight]

If it was deemed such a success and all that, then why are car dealers galore closing down?

Complete cock up - as per

[ArrowsFA1]

Didn't this end almost 2yrs ago :confused:

[mix2000]

Not only that, but alot of classics sent to their grave. :(

[Bolton Midnight]

Didn't this end almost 2yrs ago :confused:

Aye but it is now being proven to have been a complete and utter waste of time and money.

Plenty of what Labour did is still having repercussions now, or do you live under a stone in a cave?

[Bolton Midnight]

Not only that, but alot of classics sent to their grave. :(

True, plus plenty of ideal old cheap starter cars.

Yet another Nu Labour F*** Up.

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If it was deemed such a success and all that, then why are car dealers galore closing down?

Complete cock up - as per


Considering that Ford & GM were in within whisker of going bust; Land Rover, Japan & China still have faith in the British workforce.

Yep, what a right cock up for the car industry & Great Britain.

[Bolton Midnight]

So the UK scrappage scheme saved these world brands, shades of Gordo reckoning to save the world eh

deluded in the extreme

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So the UK scrappage scheme saved these world brands, shades of Gordo reckoning to save the world eh

deluded in the extreme

I find tribal politics delusional. Is it worth playing tribal politics when not just jobs but an industry as a whole is at stake?

The scrappage scheme was used across the world and started in Europe.

Not only did the Obama administration (a bunch of Socialists, apparently) follow suit but also bailed out GM - who are now the world's number one car manufacturer!

So what would have helped the car industry without the scrappage scheme? Sit there do nothing in recession, no incentive to buy a car off the showroom thus dealerships would still go under; Honda/Swindon halted production before the 2009 budget and introduction of scrappage scheme.

[Bolton Midnight]

Firstly what is so special about the car industry over any other struggling industry that got zero help only hindrance from Nu Labour.

A tax / rates cut would help everyone and not just bottle up a dip for the future which the scrappage scheme did (which all the garages / distributors are now enjoying).

20% tax across the board and 50% cut in business rates - bingo economy back working.

[Mark]

It got Daniel a FIAT 500 at a knock down price ;)

[SGWilko]

I see the scrappage scheme as an example of a government failing to see the 'bigger picture'.

We have set ambitious targets to reduce CO2 emissions, we have a society that is getter more obese, and we have an economy that is on the rocks.

So what do they do, make it easier to buy a car! What I'd've done would be to use the opportunity to make public transport more reliable and more affordable. Get people out of their cars to reduce congestion and get them on their feet walking to the bus stop/train station.

By artificially propping up the car industry, all we were doing was postponing the inveitable which we are seeing now.

Fitter people reduce the burden on the health service. Fewer cars on the road reduces emissions and lessons wear and tear on the road system.

Fuel demand reduces, prices fall and all of a sudden buses become affordable again......

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I see the scrappage scheme as an example of a government failing to see the 'bigger picture'.

We have set ambitious targets to reduce CO2 emissions, we have a society that is getter more obese, and we have an economy that is on the rocks.

So what do they do, make it easier to buy a car! What I'd've done would be to use the opportunity to make public transport more reliable and more affordable. Get people out of their cars to reduce congestion and get them on their feet walking to the bus stop/train station.

By artificially propping up the car industry, all we were doing was postponing the inveitable which we are seeing now.

Fitter people reduce the burden on the health service. Fewer cars on the road reduces emissions and lessons wear and tear on the road system.

Fuel demand reduces, prices fall and all of a sudden buses become affordable again......

It's a bit of a pipe dream TBH. When there is freedom of choice would you want to go back to the days of rationing even when the diet was better?

To be fair there's emissions legislation and cars/engines are becoming more and more efficient. As an example the new Porsche 911 can rival hot hatches for emissions!


Firstly what is so special about the car industry over any other struggling industry that got zero help only hindrance from Nu Labour.

A tax / rates cut would help everyone and not just bottle up a dip for the future which the scrappage scheme did (which all the garages / distributors are now enjoying).

20% tax across the board and 50% cut in business rates - bingo economy back working.

I agree about taxes but it is rather simplistic in relation to the car industry.

Would people spend or save in a recession? Would you likely to buy brand new or second hand?

Besides, dealers would still go under as they're at the bottom of the pyramid. It's the nature of business that companies does what it takes to survive.