M-Sport Ford World Rally Teams

[Fast Eddie WRC]

M-SPORT WORLD RALLY TEAM *

*Full entrant name to be confirmed ... :rolleyes:

[Ralph-Mario]

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http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee32 ... msport.jpg (http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee320/WRCKE/msport.jpg)

[Andre Oliveira]

Simple Photosphop

[KiwiWRCfan]

M-Sport are an exhibitor at UK's Autosport show 2014. Hopefully they will have something exciting to announce again this year, title sponsor perhaps.
Remember last year they revealed their new 2013 livery at Autosport. https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set ... 525&type=3 (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.588861494460585.148698.137625472917525&type=3)

[Prisoner Monkeys]

They regularly do stuff at ASI. I'd be very surprised if they launched before then.

[306 Cosworth]

M-Sport are an exhibitor at UK's Autosport show 2014. Hopefully they will have something exciting to announce again this year, title sponsor perhaps.
Remember last year they revealed their new 2013 livery at Autosport. https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set ... 525&type=3 (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.588861494460585.148698.137625472917525&type=3)

Remember it well as I was there! Think I managed to tweet the very first picture if it haha

[Rallying UK]

M-Sport are an exhibitor at UK's Autosport show 2014. Hopefully they will have something exciting to announce again this year, title sponsor perhaps.
Remember last year they revealed their new 2013 livery at Autosport. https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set ... 525&type=3 (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.588861494460585.148698.137625472917525&type=3)

Remember it well as I was there! Think I managed to tweet the very first picture if it haha

You did indeed! https://twitter.com/RallyingUK/status/289317662700498944

[Barreis]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/111977

[Prisoner Monkeys]

Well, duh. It's Monte Carlo. Of course it's going to be tough.

[bluuford]

Article has mistake in it. It says that 24-years old.. Elfyn became 25-years old on December 28, article was published on 29th :-)

[Roy]

Hirvonen presented his sponsors. He and Jarmo wear a jacket with these sponsor logo's and the M-sport logo. No other logo's, even no Ford logo...

http://instagram.com/p/isxNoLB5nR/#

[Mad cat jnr]

Can anyone copy the picture here please? Cant get on instagram at work.

[Andre Oliveira]

http://distilleryimage1.ak.instagram.com/748ef9ba744e11e392400e69aaaf2909_8.jpg

[WUff1]

http://www.acm.mc/documents/4/LISTE%20DES%20ENGAGES%20PAR%20LISTE%20DE%20PRIORIT E.pdf
there is no mentioning of Qatar..seems like they left M-Sport alone.

This would suggest, that main sponsor still to be announced. So could be Qatar as well as anything else

http://www.fia.com/2014-fia-wrc-manufac ... t-entrants (http://www.fia.com/2014-fia-wrc-manufacturers-list-entrants)

Qatar logo was covered with big plastic foils on service truck of Robert Kubica at Jänner Rally - so I don´t think they´re still on board.

EDIT: http://img.motorline.cc/rallye-em-2014- ... 07a1ac.jpg (http://img.motorline.cc/rallye-em-2014--RALLYE---ERC-ORM---2013---J%C3%A4nnerrallye---Servicepark-RALLYE---ERC-ORM---2013---J%C3%A4nnerrallye---Servicepark-static/gallery/images/0/5/05f4e4341104e304ea55ad2a1207a1ac.jpg)

[RS]

Article has mistake in it. It says that 24-years old.. Elfyn became 25-years old on December 28, article was published on 29th :-)

I didn't realise he was so old!

What does everyone think about Evans and the approach of Wilson/M-Sport?

He was great on Rally GB in the Fiesta R5, but on Sardinia although he brought it to the finish he was a long way off the pace.

I think a year or two more in WRC2 or ERC to develop him would have been better. I wonder whether Malcolm is trying to copy the McLaren ethos in F1 of chucking a young rookie in the car in the hope of striking gold.. but WRC is not F1.

Is Evans on a long term deal that will ensure he is not cast aside if year one is a disaster? A 5 year plan if you like? :D

Of course all of the above maybe irrelevant If Evans or his backers are the ones paying the bills but I hope there is some real thinking behind this strategy because I don't think he showed enough yet to be awarded that drive purely on merit.

[stefanvv]

Article has mistake in it. It says that 24-years old.. Elfyn became 25-years old on December 28, article was published on 29th :-)

I didn't realise he was so old!

What does everyone think about Evans and the approach of Wilson/M-Sport?

He was great on Rally GB in the Fiesta R5, but on Sardinia although he brought it to the finish he was a long way off the pace.

I think a year or two more in WRC2 or ERC to develop him would have been better. I wonder whether Malcolm is trying to copy the McLaren ethos in F1 of chucking a young rookie in the car in the hope of striking gold.. but WRC is not F1.

Is Evans on a long term deal that will ensure he is not cast aside if year one is a disaster? A 5 year plan if you like? :D

Of course all of the above maybe irrelevant If Evans or his backers are the ones paying the bills but I hope there is some real thinking behind this strategy because I don't think he showed enough yet to be awarded that drive purely on merit.
No, he didn't. But I believe he's probbly the best bet for GB driver on the world stage. Has much to learn though, probably this year he will. Don't believe there will be 5 years plan, probably Wilson has gave him 2 the most, the 1 of them would be bonus as GB driver.

[Mihai]

I say give Elfyn half the chance Matthew Wilson had with M-Sport and he will achieve 10 times more than Matty Wilslow. He's a good breed of a driver, and his father Gwyndaf took care of him not to cut corners in his driver development. Given good circumstances in the long future, Elfyn can win the crown.

[Prisoner Monkeys]

Qatar logo was covered with big plastic foils on service truck of Robert Kubica at Jänner Rally - so I don´t think they´re still on board.
It could also be for legal reasons. Obviously, they have more important things to be doing than repainting their transporters. Especially if they are still negotiating with that sponsor. But at the same time, they don't want to over-state their relationship with that sponsor. Having that name there implies that Qatar is still title sponsor, which they currently are not.

[GigiGalliNo1]

Qatar logo was covered with big plastic foils on service truck of Robert Kubica at Jänner Rally - so I don´t think they´re still on board.
It could also be for legal reasons. Obviously, they have more important things to be doing than repainting their transporters. Especially if they are still negotiating with that sponsor. But at the same time, they don't want to over-state their relationship with that sponsor. Having that name there implies that Qatar is still title sponsor, which they currently are not.

Truth is that M-Sport haven't had a chance to take off the stickers from the trucks in time and head to a rally. Add in Christmas, and New Years + the travel, it's not that important and easier to just cover up for the time being. That makes sense.

[Sulland]

Could anyone explain and maybe also use photos to show where the differences btw toe 2013 and 14 model of the Fiesta WRC?
Are the differences just on the outside, or are there any new bits on the inside as well?

[pantealex]

Could anyone explain and maybe also use photos to show where the differences btw toe 2013 and 14 model of the Fiesta WRC?
Are the differences just on the outside, or are there any new bits on the inside as well?

Wait 3 days and car is officially presented!

That test car is old with new nose.

[br21]

I've heard it's only different design of front of the car, similar to R5. No major mechanical changes, etc.

[Eli]

they way it seems in the testing, they haven't dropped Qatar as their sponsor.

[stefanvv]

Could anyone explain and maybe also use photos to show where the differences btw toe 2013 and 14 model of the Fiesta WRC?
Are the differences just on the outside, or are there any new bits on the inside as well?
I think new steering wheel and dashboard, probably some mechanics too.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Fiesta RS road car coming ??

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/ford/fiest ... -rs-coming (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/ford/fiesta/85091/extreme-new-ford-fiesta-rs-coming)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

M-Sport (@DovenbyHall) tweeted at 0:19 PM on Tue, Jan 07, 2014:

Robert Kubica has today announced Maciej Szczepaniak to partner him for the @OfficialWRC season. Welcome to the RK M-Sport World Rally Team Maciej !!

[WUff1]

M-Sport (@DovenbyHall) tweeted at 0:19 PM on Tue, Jan 07, 2014:

Robert Kubica has today announced Maciej Szczepaniak to partner him for the @OfficialWRC season. Welcome to the RK M-Sport World Rally Team Maciej !!

Well after winning Jänner Rallye anything else would have been a surprise ;)

[Ucci]

M-Sport (@DovenbyHall) tweeted at 0:19 PM on Tue, Jan 07, 2014:

Robert Kubica has today announced Maciej Szczepaniak to partner him for the @OfficialWRC season. Welcome to the RK M-Sport World Rally Team Maciej !!

Thanks god !! That is a relief ! I already feel sorry for Robert, with all troubles with his right arm to have constant worries who will seat next to you, in which language will he be ''guided''....Szczpaniak is a real professional, so one big trouble solved for Robert !!

[Roy]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdfT94VCEAEW2L_.jpg

This is now at http://www.qatarmsportwrt.com. What can we expect tomorrow?

[Gregor-y]

Fiesta RS road car coming ??

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/ford/fiest ... -rs-coming (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/ford/fiesta/85091/extreme-new-ford-fiesta-rs-coming)
I did see the Fiestas testing lately seem to have an 'RS' added to the new grille. Technically it seems they always had 'RS' in their official name (along with the Focus before them) but maybe it's being made a little more prominent to tie in with a new RS road car.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

2014 Fiesta & new sponsor revealed today ??

[Roy]

We have to wait for M-sport car in monaco.

There is another JWRC with Dmack and m-sport.
DMACK and M-Sport partner for Drive DMACK Fiesta Cup. 5 WRC rounds in Fiesta R2. Winner gets full WRC2 in Fiesta R5
5 rounds are Portugal, Poland, Finland, Germany and France in @DovenbyHall prepared Fiesta R2s. Cost £99,950. Biggest prize in world rally!
Source: @DMACK_Tyres

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Boss Wilson on Kubica's dedication:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/112071

[makinen_fan]

Full interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvXH7X1kbw4

[Mad cat jnr]

That 'JWRC' sounds a great idea! And very very cheap!

[the sniper]

In this week's Autosport magazine there's a picture of Elfyn Evans testing the new look Fiesta, the short description accompanying it says the team plans to introduce the car for April's Rally Portugal. So first three rallies with the old car then, if Autosport are to be believed?

[Ezh1k]

In this week's Autosport magazine there's a picture of Elfyn Evans testing the new look Fiesta, the short description accompanying it says the team plans to introduce the car for April's Rally Portugal. So first three rallies with the old car then, if Autosport are to be believed?

Even now they are testing old car with new face...

[irish_tiger]

So still no word of a sponsor ?

[skarderud]

its a livestream today from msport, decoration the car. New kind of presentation the sponsors?

[litifeta]

factory can smell a win

[Prisoner Monkeys]

So still no word of a sponsor ?
If they have one, they are not saying. Apparently Malcolm Wilson has said the livery won't be revealed until Monte Carlo, but I have not seen the video from ASI, so I cannot say for sure.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

its a livestream today from msport, decoration the car. New kind of presentation the sponsors?

Any link for this ??

[skarderud]

sorry, tomorrow! Live at birmingham!

[thuGG]

Kubica inteview on upcoming season:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBF15yahxGA

[GigiGalliNo1]

In this week's Autosport magazine there's a picture of Elfyn Evans testing the new look Fiesta, the short description accompanying it says the team plans to introduce the car for April's Rally Portugal. So first three rallies with the old car then, if Autosport are to be believed?

Haven't M-Sport used new car in previous years from the 3rd round of the WRC??? I believe this is true.

[Jordib]

New Ford livery?

https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hph ... 4163_n.jpg (https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/q71/s720x720/45052_635770059813218_364154163_n.jpg)

[Mirek]

That's great looking livery! Not really practical but veeery nice :)

Anyway it's also nice to see so many Ford logos!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

New Ford livery?

https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hph ... 4163_n.jpg (https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/q71/s720x720/45052_635770059813218_364154163_n.jpg)

No big new sponsor for M-Sport then ??

[focus206]

New Ford livery?

https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hph ... 4163_n.jpg (https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/q71/s720x720/45052_635770059813218_364154163_n.jpg)

Wow! If it's like that, 2 thumbs up from me! :D
After one of the worst liveries I've ever seen in 2013, one of the bestest! :)

[Andre Oliveira]

Best deco of last years :bounce:

[Jordib]

New Ford livery?

https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hph ... 4163_n.jpg (https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/q71/s720x720/45052_635770059813218_364154163_n.jpg)

No big new sponsor for M-Sport then ??

It's seems not, I hope that Ford or Castrol is putting more money to the team.

[mousti]

I guess Hirvonen's livery will be slightly different with some personal Finnish sponsors on it.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Looking good in 'performance blue' ;)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdpXMAPIcAAJLRi.jpg:large

[Sulland]

So has the Vodaphone rumour been verified not to be the case?

[pettersolberg29]

Yeh, unfortunately that was an April Fools Day-type joke

[Motorsportfun]

Looking good in 'performance blue' ;)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdpXMAPIcAAJLRi.jpg:large

:spin:

Definitely one of best liveries we've seen EVER in WRC. Quite similar to Honda's Earth livery some years ago in F1... isn't it? :bounce:

[Rallyper]

I would say, looking at the livery, there´s room for another BIG sponsor, to be announced later today...

[N.O.T]

Trully nice livery it is a pity that WV went the citroen route and did not change theirs...

[WUff1]

New Ford livery?

https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hph ... 4163_n.jpg (https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/q71/s720x720/45052_635770059813218_364154163_n.jpg)

Wow! If it's like that, 2 thumbs up from me! :D
After one of the worst liveries I've ever seen in 2013, one of the bestest! :)

+1!

[pucky54]

Trully nice livery it is a pity that WV went the citroen route and did not change theirs...

They did?!?!?!

[A FONDO]

Trully nice livery it is a pity that WV went the citroen route and did not change theirs...
I will try answer it in your way. :D
Why change it? This is not ladyboy show like F1 or NASCAR, this sport is about fast times on the stages

[Sulland]

Has the livestream happened or was it not happening and the blue on is the thing for sure?

[T.Maanteiden kuningas]

No live video, but something is happening.
http://live.autosport.com/commentary.php/id/688
https://twitter.com/dovenbyhall

[Fast Eddie WRC]

No live video, but something is happening.
http://live.autosport.com/commentary.php/id/688
https://twitter.com/dovenbyhall

12:00 Want to get a first look at the livery M-Sport's Mikko Hirvonen and Elfyn Evans will carry in the 2014 World Rally Championship?

It's being put together at AUTOSPORT International right now on the 3M stand, where the vehicle wrapping firm's men have begun to apply the colour scheme to a Ford Fiesta RS WRC...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdslxSxIgAAoNTO.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

?@DovenbyHall
Lots of questions over the facelift Fiesta RS WRC. It's currently under development. On competition cars as soon as testing is complete...

@DovenbyHall We're working on the joint development using the Ford design and all will be revealed during the year once homologated...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdtbLCdIIAELJBF.jpg

[RICARDO75]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdtbLCdIIAELJBF.jpg

[RICARDO75]

Fast Eddie was faster than me :)

[whosyo]

Whoa, how did they manage to put 3 cars on the championship when they don't have any major sponsor?

[the sniper]

Whoa, how did they manage to put 3 cars on the championship when they don't have any major sponsor?

Why can't Ford, BP Group/Castrol and Lotos be considered 'major sponsors'? All the companies have plenty of money, what's to say they're not each contributing enough to constitute a full budget? That's without taking into account all the money M Sport make from selling tons of Fiestas for use in almost every class of rallying!

[WUff1]

Whoa, how did they manage to put 3 cars on the championship when they don't have any major sponsor?

Why can't Ford, BP Group/Castrol and Lotos be considered 'major sponsors'? All the companies have plenty of money, what's to say they're not each contributing enough to constitute a full budget? That's without taking into account all the money M Sport make from selling tons of Fiestas for use in almost every class of rallying!


... and also from renting cars to privateers like Bouffier, Solowow etc., who surely pay for them a lot of money.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

However M-Sport did it be grateful they did... the WRC needs all the entries it can get !!

Good luck to them. :)

[gorganl2000]

However M-Sport did it be grateful they did... the WRC needs all the entries it can get !!

Good luck to them. :)

yeah, the more cars the better i suppose

businesses/sponsors are having a rough time, so any contribution is welcomed :)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Their wesite still called 'Qatar' M-Sport: http://www.qatarmsportwrt.com/ but updated now with M-Sport logos:

Official press release:

With the 2014 FIA World Rally Championship (WRC) fast approaching, the M-Sport World Rally Team is proud to reveal its all-new livery for the year ahead. The innovative blue and black Ford Fiesta RS WRC will be piloted by Mikko Hirvonen and Elfyn Evans on all 13 rounds of the up-coming season.

The new design was revealed with a live wrapping in conjunction with partners 3M Peltor at the UK's Autosport Show this weekend. Spectators were able to watch the design develop as 3M's team applied the vinyl throughout the show.

As in previous years, M-Sport receives technical support from the Ford Motor Company. The team's range of award-winning rally cars continue to draw strength from the Blue Oval's advanced EcoBoost technology – as used on latest production models – and the 2014 Fiesta RS WRCs will be adorned with the company's EcoBoost branding.

The new design also pays tribute to M-Sport's long-established team partners – Castrol and Michelin – as well as our highly-valued trade partners. All have been integral to the team's past success and their presence on the new-look Fiesta acknowledges their continued support and technical expertise.

Opting for a mix of youth and experience in the driver line-up, the new-look M-Sport World Rally Team will make its first appearance on the stages at next week's traditional season-opener: Rallye Monte-Carlo.

Team Principal, Malcolm Wilson OBE, said:

"I'm very happy to reveal the new 2014 livery for the M-Sport World Rally Team. There has been a lot of hard work to get to this point, and I need to commend the efforts of every single member of our dedicated team.

"I am also delighted to announce that we will continue our long and successful partnership with our team partners, Castrol and Michelin, as well as our valued trade partners. We also continue our excellent working relationship with the Ford Motor Company whose invaluable technical support continues to aid M-Sport in the design and development of our award-winning range of Fiesta rally cars."

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Rear view of the 2014 livery:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bdyn43HCAAA7jAA.jpg:large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Great pic of Kubica's car:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdyY13XCAAA70P9.jpg

[COD]

However M-Sport did it be grateful they did... the WRC needs all the entries it can get !!

Good luck to them. :)

Sure.

I'm sure that Mr. Wilson would be much happier if the M-sport sticker would be replaced by some others...

[RS]

I'm sure that Mr. Wilson would be much happier if the M-sport sticker would be replaced by some others...

Yes, also naming Castrol and Michelin as sponsors is clutching at straws. I can't think of a works WRC team who has not had an oil and tyre partner?

As long as Malcolm can pay the bills that's all that matters, but it is perhaps a bit worrying they haven't been able to attract any "real" sponsors, especially when they benefited from Qatar money in the past. Anyone know how much that was worth to them?

Anyhow, kudos to Wilson for pulling this model off, when Prodrive failed to do so with Mini.

[Mirek]

I don't worry about M-Sport. There is a fair number of privateers with money and M-Sport is almost the only chance to rent a proper car now. VW rents nothing, Hyundai also nothing (at least in the moment) and Citroën seems to be on a way out of the sport (plus they are more expensive anyway)...

[Juha_Koo]

I don't worry about M-Sport. There is a fair number of privateers with money and M-Sport is almost the only chance to rent a proper car now. VW rents nothing, Hyundai also nothing (at least in the moment) and Citroën seems to be on a way out of the sport (plus they are more expensive anyway)...

I'm thinking that nowdays they (M-Sport) have maybe more possibilities to rent out "proper" cars for good drivers? As they don't have to worry about conflict of interest like they had to during manufacturer era...? Now when any Fiesta is doing well, Malcolm can go into spotlight and be happy.

[Rallyper]

Yeah, sure their cash flow is very positive at the moment. Let´s hope it stays that way. Kubica of course brings his money as well. I would say the situation for M-Sport looks very bright for now and the near future.

[Fly_Half]

I'm sure I read somewhere that approx 60 Fiesta R5 cars have been ordered at nearly £200k each. That and the other bits and bobs they're getting will be enough to tie them over I'm sure. Long term though, they definitely need a committed sponsor.

[irish_tiger]

Their wesite still called 'Qatar' M-Sport: http://www.qatarmsportwrt.com/ but updated now with M-Sport logos:
Team Principal, Malcolm Wilson OBE, said:

"I'm very happy to reveal the new 2014 livery for the M-Sport World Rally Team. There has been a lot of hard work to get to this point, and I need to commend the efforts of every single member of our dedicated team.

"I am also delighted to announce that we will continue our long and successful partnership with our team partners, Castrol and Michelin, as well as our valued trade partners. We also continue our excellent working relationship with the Ford Motor Company whose invaluable technical support continues to aid M-Sport in the design and development of our award-winning range of Fiesta rally cars."
What a load of PR Bullsh1t ....delighted my ass . M-sport down the quaters !! .....money out of Malcom's pocket .... There will be some 'Malcom specials' out this year ide say ...

[Le NaRcX]

How worse would it be for M-Sport's business not to have a top manufacturer team in WRC? Probably it's better for them to put or renounce at some money in the WRC team and still be attractive to top potential customers.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Bouffier's M-Sport Fiesta WRC ready to go ...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bd-GFPSCAAA5lum.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bd-GFPSCAAA5lum.jpg:large

[Lalo]

I've noted that the Fiesta RS WRC tested was the new nose version of the Fiesta, but it doesn't appear in Monte Carlo. Is M-Sport saving the evolution for later?

[Andre Oliveira]

The test car is a old one with new front. The new front will be used on Portugal.

[focus206]

I've noted that the Fiesta RS WRC tested was the new nose version of the Fiesta, but it doesn't appear in Monte Carlo. Is M-Sport saving the evolution for later?
It looks like it'll probably debut in Portugal.

EDIT: too slow :P

[Lalo]

I've noted that the Fiesta RS WRC tested was the new nose version of the Fiesta, but it doesn't appear in Monte Carlo. Is M-Sport saving the evolution for later?
It looks like it'll probably debut in Portugal.

EDIT: too slow :P


The test car is a old one with new front. The new front will be used on Portugal.

Thanks guys ;)

[Plan9]

Will Bouffier do more events this year?

[noel157]

Will Bouffier do more events this year?

Depends on budget. I suspect it's not too big which is a pity. Hopefully see him in ERC R5 or R3.

[WUff1]

Will Bouffier do more events this year?

Depends on budget. I suspect it's not too big which is a pity. Hopefully see him in ERC R5 or R3.

His plans for 2014 are not known - but yes, maybe some WRC rallies with R3 and/or ERC rallies with 207 S2000 or later on with R5. Maybe some Polish rallies with 208 R2 again. Don´t think we´ll see him in a WRC again this year after Monte.

[RS]

If Toyota or any other manufacturer joins the party I can imagine Bouffier would be in demand as a test driver having experience of the DS3, i20 and Fiesta WRCs.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

My favourite action photo of the new livery so far, really shows the colours well: :cool:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v282/EddieFocus/22087cf5-70a9-49c2-99c5-4db54e30ca16_zps02f5782d.jpg?t=1389735267

[COD]

Will Bouffier do more events this year?

If Wilson wants results, he will replace Hirvonen with Bouffier at least on tarmac rounds

[WUff1]

Will Bouffier do more events this year?

If Wilson wants results, he will replace Hirvonen with Bouffier at least on tarmac rounds

Won´t be possible, because Hirvonen is his No. 1 driver.

[pantealex]

Will Bouffier do more events this year?

If Wilson wants results, he will replace Hirvonen with Bouffier at least on tarmac rounds

Won´t be possible, because Hirvonen is his No. 1 driver.

It´s possible, No.1 only have to do 10 events! New rule for this season.

[WUff1]

Ahh thank you, didn´t know this!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Malcom Wilson seriously impressed by Kubica ...

http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/january- ... 2-12-.html (http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/january-2014/kubica-tipped-for-wins/page/944--12-12-.html)

His raw speed has impressed me too in recent times, but his extra experience will soon mean he could be a real challenger... :facelick:

[dimviii]

Malcolm has to cool down a little.Kubica while his debut is excellent,had a much more clear road.It is clearly visible at videos and photos.

[Plan9]

Will Bouffier do more events this year?

Depends on budget. I suspect it's not too big which is a pity. Hopefully see him in ERC R5 or R3.

His plans for 2014 are not known - but yes, maybe some WRC rallies with R3 and/or ERC rallies with 207 S2000 or later on with R5. Maybe some Polish rallies with 208 R2 again. Don´t think we´ll see him in a WRC again this year after Monte.

That is a great shame. He is to be commended for his performance in Monte Carlo thus far. Its good he is able to keep being invloved with rallying but more time in a WRC car would certainly be a better match for his ability than an R class car. Pitty he does not have more money.

[focus206]

I hope Bryan will take the win at the end of the rally! :) So MAYBE Malcolm could decide to help him with the budget at least for the tarmac rounds... Come on Bryan!

[irish_tiger]

[quote="Fast Eddie WRC":63tzsxaw]Their wesite still called 'Qatar' M-Sport: http://www.qatarmsportwrt.com/ but updated now with M-Sport logos:
Team Principal, Malcolm Wilson OBE, said:

"I'm very happy to reveal the new 2014 livery for the M-Sport World Rally Team. There has been a lot of hard work to get to this point, and I need to commend the efforts of every single member of our dedicated team.

"I am also delighted to announce that we will continue our long and successful partnership with our team partners, Castrol and Michelin, as well as our valued trade partners. We also continue our excellent working relationship with the Ford Motor Company whose invaluable technical support continues to aid M-Sport in the design and development of our award-winning range of Fiesta rally cars."
What a load of PR Bullsh1t ....delighted my ass . M-sport down the quaters !! .....money out of Malcom's pocket .... There will be some 'Malcom specials' out this year ide say ...[/quote:63tzsxaw]
Poor Francois Delecour got the first Malcom Special of 2014 - stopped about what 8 Km in to the first stage ;(

[irish_tiger]

Will Bouffier do more events this year?

If Wilson wants results, he will replace Hirvonen with Bouffier at least on tarmac rounds
As bad as Hirvonen is i dont think Bouffier is better then him - he was almost three minutes behind Hirvonen in Monte last year . Bouffier is just having a bit of luck at the moment - there is a long way to go yet

[Mirek]

Last year's Monte Carlo was first ever Bouffier's run in a WRC car. He never drove it even in some small national event before. He also lost most of the time when he went off in a snow bank. This year's Monte was his second ever outing with WRC car and first with Fiesta.

[Andre Oliveira]

Malcolm said that want find some way to have Bouffier on more events this season :bounce:

[COD]

Malcolm said that want find some way to have Bouffier on more events this season :bounce:

Translates: Hope Bouffier finds mre money fom sponsors :laugh:

[RS]

Will Bouffier do more events this year?

He is doing the second round of the ERC week after next in Latvia. He will drive a DS3 RRC against Lappi in works Skoda, Kajetanowicz in Fiesta R5 and Breen in semi-works 207 S2000.

[Prisoner Monkeys]

Malcolm said that want find some way to have Bouffier on more events this season :bounce:

Translates: Hope Bouffier finds mre money fom sponsors :laugh:
One imagines that would not be too difficult after Monte Carlo.

[COD]

[quote="Andre Oliveira":26objowo]Malcolm said that want find some way to have Bouffier on more events this season :bounce:

Translates: Hope Bouffier finds mre money fom sponsors :laugh:
One imagines that would not be too difficult after Monte Carlo.[/quote:26objowo]


M-sport has not been able to find and main sponsor and neither was Prodive for the Mini so I imagine it is nt that easy....

[Prisoner Monkeys]

For a car manufacturer looking to put together a full-season campaign with two cars, yes.

But what if Bouffier was simply looking to pick up an extra round? I imagine that would be considerably cheaper. It's too late for Sweden, and Mexico would naturally be more expensive since there is a trans-Atlantic flight involved, but he would probably have enough time to strike up a deal for Portugal. And if he performs in any ERC rounds he is doing, that would attract attention, too. And we have seen people willing to loan out their cars for events. Didn't Tamrazov do that last year? Maybe that is another avenue Bouffier could pursue.

Going round-by-round is not ideal, but if it's all you have got, then it will have to make do.

[Jarek Z]

What are you talking about Prisoner Monkeys? Look at Ford, look at Mini/Prodrive failure. No human being is able to find a sponsor for this sport. Even Bouffier's dog is running out of ideas! ;)


Scooby-Doo found a sponsor for Bouffier

source - http://translate.google.com/translate?s ... ml&act=url


It seems almost as a movie script, but the dog of the 35 -year-old Bryan Bouffier is the reason the last two years the French pilot to find a sponsor and takes part in the Monte Carlo Rally .

"This is a very nice story. It all began in 2005 when I had a big dog . Was 80 -pound, like a Scooby - Doo. We called him Achu . Was 80 kg eating only chicken - explains the backstory Bryan Bouffier . - I got him when he was only 6 months and the only thing I wanted to do was to wean him to eat chicken. "

Achu flatly refused any other food except chicken and it turns out to be a big problem, even purely financial.

" I was shopping from the local supermarket, but the amount per month was really huge. They worked with a company specializing in the production of food of birds. It's called Royal Bernard . So first I made a call to the company asking if I could get the meat at a lower price, but initially I got a negative answer. "

Although disappointed, Bouffier goes straight to the head office to seek discounts direct from the bosses, not by the owner of the supermarket.

" We discussed the price and I got a chicken at a lower price - explains Bouffier . - Then in the last two years we met again and again getting my chicken . "

In 2012 the intention of Bouffier is to participate in Monte Carlo , but for a full budget he still needs more sponsors.

" I talked to the boss to see if the company is interested to help me. We arranged a meeting. The conversation lasted ten minutes and he became my biggest sponsor this year . The guy is not rally into motorsports, has three racing horses, but he trusted me , he said okay and realized that in 2013 I want to drive WRC, and he said he would help again. Here's how a year ago I could hire DS3 WRC, and now the Fiesta RS WRC. "

[Fast Eddie WRC]

What are you talking about Prisoner Monkeys? Look at Ford, look at Mini/Prodrive failure. No human being is able to find a sponsor for this sport. Even Bouffier's dog is running out of ideas! ;)


Scooby-Doo found a sponsor for Bouffier

source - http://translate.google.com/translate?s ... ml&act=url


It seems almost as a movie script, but the dog of the 35 -year-old Bryan Bouffier is the reason the last two years the French pilot to find a sponsor and takes part in the Monte Carlo Rally .

"This is a very nice story. It all began in 2005 when I had a big dog . Was 80 -pound, like a Scooby - Doo. We called him Achu . Was 80 kg eating only chicken - explains the backstory Bryan Bouffier . - I got him when he was only 6 months and the only thing I wanted to do was to wean him to eat chicken. "

Achu flatly refused any other food except chicken and it turns out to be a big problem, even purely financial.

" I was shopping from the local supermarket, but the amount per month was really huge. They worked with a company specializing in the production of food of birds. It's called Royal Bernard . So first I made a call to the company asking if I could get the meat at a lower price, but initially I got a negative answer. "

Although disappointed, Bouffier goes straight to the head office to seek discounts direct from the bosses, not by the owner of the supermarket.

" We discussed the price and I got a chicken at a lower price - explains Bouffier . - Then in the last two years we met again and again getting my chicken . "

In 2012 the intention of Bouffier is to participate in Monte Carlo , but for a full budget he still needs more sponsors.

" I talked to the boss to see if the company is interested to help me. We arranged a meeting. The conversation lasted ten minutes and he became my biggest sponsor this year . The guy is not rally into motorsports, has three racing horses, but he trusted me , he said okay and realized that in 2013 I want to drive WRC, and he said he would help again. Here's how a year ago I could hire DS3 WRC, and now the Fiesta RS WRC. "

Ha ha, thats' brilliant ! :laugh:

[RS]

I read something interesting earlier. I haven't looked up to check, but is it true?:

"In 2014 so far Bouffier, Kubica, Tänak, Henning Solberg all won stages in a Fiesta WRC, yet Ford's works drivers didn't."

[Franky]

I read something interesting earlier. I haven't looked up to check, but is it true?:

"In 2014 so far Bouffier, Kubica, Tänak, Henning Solberg all won stages in a Fiesta WRC, yet Ford's works drivers didn't."

100% true

[COD]

I read something interesting earlier. I haven't looked up to check, but is it true?:

"In 2014 so far Bouffier, Kubica, Tänak, Henning Solberg all won stages in a Fiesta WRC, yet Ford's works drivers didn't."

Speaks volumes about their choise of drivers :devil:

[A FONDO]

haha, this is a great story, Jarek, thanks for sharing :)

[Nornbugger]

I read something interesting earlier. I haven't looked up to check, but is it true?:

"In 2014 so far Bouffier, Kubica, Tänak, Henning Solberg all won stages in a Fiesta WRC, yet Ford's works drivers didn't."

Speaks volumes about their choise of drivers :devil:


Dont write young Evans off yet, Malcolm is trying to invest for the future with him and I think the lad is well worth the punt

[bluuford]

I am still a bit worried about Evans. He stepped (or was forced to step up) up to highest level but he should have stayed on a lower level for some time. Much easier/cheaper way to gain experience and less pressure. WRC2 season + some more familiar events with WRC would have been ideal for him. I hope he can handle the pressure.

[ste898]

Wilson is totally useless atdriver choices

A good example of this is letting hirvoslow back in the team

Evans is a however is a good move and I would love to see him beating hirvoslow regularly

[A FONDO]

I am still a bit worried about Evans. He stepped (or was forced to step up) up to highest level but he should have stayed on a lower level for some time. Much easier/cheaper way to gain experience and less pressure. WRC2 season + some more familiar events with WRC would have been ideal for him. I hope he can handle the pressure.
I reckon that in lower levels you can only harden wrong habits. To become good WRC driver you must drive a WRC car among WRC drivers, everything else is pushing you away. About the pressure, it depends on your mentality.

[Mirek]

... and that is why all fast drivers who recently managed to get into WRC circus came from IRC (Neuville, Mikkelsen, Meeke, Hänninen).

... and that's why Bouffier finished second in his second ever WRC start and first ever Fiesta start after plenty of seasons in IRC/ERC.

Facts prove You wrong.

[RS]

To become good WRC driver you must drive a WRC car among WRC drivers.

Matthew Wilson for example...

I can't think of anyone off the top of my head who benefited by being thrown pretty much straight into a WRC programme with a WRCar.

[bluuford]

Hay.. You have qoted me very wrong :-) Thi sentence was said by Slowson, currently it looks like I said it :-)

[RS]

Hay.. You have qoted me very wrong :-) Thi sentence was said by Slowson, currently it looks like I said it :-)

Sorry! I can't edit it now :/

[stefanvv]

I think you can benefit jumping into WRC straight ahead only if you're worthy enough. Let's see if that's the case with Evans.

[PLuto]

Hay.. You have qoted me very wrong :-) Thi sentence was said by Slowson, currently it looks like I said it :-)

Sorry! I can't edit it now :/

I have edited it ;)

[COD]

To become good WRC driver you must drive a WRC car among WRC drivers.

If you want to learn how to run, you must first learn how to walk :colour:

[bluuford]

Hay.. You have qoted me very wrong :-) Thi sentence was said by Slowson, currently it looks like I said it :-)

Sorry! I can't edit it now :/

I have edited it ;)
Thank you :-)

[A FONDO]

I think you can benefit jumping into WRC straight ahead only if you're worthy enough. Let's see if that's the case with Evans.
Of course I meant it for proper drivers. In WRC you can more quickly show if you are worthy or not. If you are not and make some achievements at lower levels you can only mislead yourself and others and become the next Tlustak or Betti.



To become good WRC driver you must drive a WRC car among WRC drivers.

If you want to learn how to run, you must first learn how to walk :colour:
With powerful car you can also drive slowly at the beginning, then raise the pace.

[RS]

With powerful car you can also drive slowly at the beginning, then raise the pace.

Like Wilson, Rautenbach..

This didn't even work for a talented driver like Mikkelsen. He had to take a "step back" to IRC to get his act together.

[stefanvv]

What's with these quotes, I didn't said that :D

[Mad cat jnr]

With powerful car you can also drive slowly at the beginning, then raise the pace.

Like Wilson, Rautenbach..

This didn't even work for a talented driver like Mikkelsen. He had to take a "step back" to IRC to get his act together.

You really know nothing about Mikklesons career do you?! He didnt step back to IRC; he went right back to the very basics and competed in the Subaru Norway cup as his dad ran out of money and his manager made him work for his seats.

[RS]

You really know nothing about Mikklesons career do you?! He didnt step back to IRC; he went right back to the very basics and competed in the Subaru Norway cup as his dad ran out of money and his manager made him work for his seats.

Yes, I was aware of that. But the point remains that starting off very young pretty much straight into WRC with a WRCar didn't work for him.

I am still waiting for Slowson to give a proper example but he doesn't like backing up his sweeping statements with facts or reasoning.

[Mirek]

I can't get to anybody who started very young in WRC car and ended as world class driver. Novikov is the closest but still far from fighting for championship.

All the recently important drivers came either from JWRC (including PSD, Academy) or IRC (PWRC in case of Latvala I think). Mikkelsen and Latvala tried WRC early but both stepped back before coming back.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Malcolm Wilson interview by Rallye-magazin.de (translated) explaining how Fiesta R5 sales have enabled M-Sport to continue in the WRC ... :) Also how R5 is the future, the Fiesta 2.4 and RallyCross ... :eek:

WILSON: R5 WAS ESSENTIAL FOR SURVIVAL

For M-Sport the Ford Fiesta R5 is a complete success. Without this vehicle, the WRC program with the World Rally Car would not have been possible, as team principal Malcolm Wilson says. Also in the future the car will play a major role.

"The R5 project has enabled us to stay in the championship at the highest level. From a commercial point of view it was a great success, "said M-Sport boss Malcolm Wilson. "With Peugeot and Citroën now embarking also, I believe that there is a large market for R5-cars. We are fully booked until mid-June and get everyday new demands. There is a bright future for these cars. We also develop a R5 +, which is a R5 with WRC Turbo and 34mm restrictor, which can be used in national rallies. Even this we have been ten orders. I think the R5 has opened many doors for us. It is a car that will be used in national races, at the international level and it's just one second per mile slower than a WRC and at only 40 percent of the cost. Personally, I think that's the way the sport should go. We need to reduce costs further. "

While Wilson is facing a major challenge in 2015 to plan a new World Rally Car and finance, developed his team further expansion of the current fiestas. It's not just about the R5 +, but also to the Fiesta in 2400 , which is powered by a 325-hp 2.4-liter naturally aspirated engine. "These are all wishes of our customers," said Wilson. "We must do everything to survive in this business. So we look at all possible areas. The worst thing that can happen is that these cars are in the garage and not be moved. Come the vehicles used, then replacement parts are required, and of course we also need this business. But of course we must be successful. Are we not more, this enormous impact will have on our business. "

The issue of Rallycross is interesting for Wilson. M-Sport built for Ken Block on a vehicle and the competitiveness of the car let other drivers attention. "Rallycross is something we need to look. We think about owning a car that we can use with Ken and some other people, hopefully. "

Even in the smaller RC4 Class M-Sport remains active, although the FIA ??future Citroën chose as a supplier to the Junior World Cup. "We knew that this decision would come. Frankly, we were at the point to sell our entire R2 cars to Chile, because there is a appropriate championship, "said Wilson. "Then suddenly there was the possibility with DMACK. They wanted to make a difference and we have a better championship on its feet than before. It was not to work against the FIA, the DMACK-Challenge came out of nowhere and was bagged in a few hours. "

Whether he can count on the support of Ford in the near future? "I can not give an answer. When you think of the current economic situation of Ford, then you can understand that they do not look so long after the World Rally Championship or any other motor sport until their financial situation has improved significantly, "said Wilson.

[Rallyper]

On WRC-live TV I heard Malcolm saying M-Sport are gearing up for 2015 with new homologations. Really good news!!

[COD]

If you want to learn how to run, you must first learn how to walk :colour:
With powerful car you can also drive slowly at the beginning, then raise the pace.[/quote]

Give me one example who has managed to do that. Wilson?

[A FONDO]

If you want to learn how to run, you must first learn how to walk :colour:
With powerful car you can also drive slowly at the beginning, then raise the pace.

Give me one example who has managed to do that. Wilson?[/quote]
I can't think of example now because at WRC level you need a lot of money and usually boys with money lack talent, while talented boys have pocket money and struggle with years in lower divisions until somebody like them and decide to invest in them. Talented ones become big ones not because they went through lower levels, but despite that. I have examples in local championships where guys begin with Evo and in their first-second season are equal to or even beat with a little others with 10-15 years of experience.

[N.O.T]

If you want to learn how to run, you must first learn how to walk :colour:
With powerful car you can also drive slowly at the beginning, then raise the pace.

Give me one example who has managed to do that. Wilson?
I can't think of example now because at WRC level you need a lot of money and usually boys with money lack talent, while talented boys have pocket money and struggle with years in lower divisions until somebody like them and decide to invest in them. Talented ones become big ones not because they went through lower levels, but despite that. I have examples in local championships where guys begin with Evo and in their first-second season are equal to or even beat with a little others with 10-15 years of experience.[/quote]

LOL... yes comparing village event nobodys with WRC level drivers is pretty accurate...you cannot think of anyone because there is not a single one.

[A FONDO]

you should go to bed on time instead of writing on the pc after midnight

[Rallyper]

I just wonder. Does MSport give all drivers same pieces (like engineparts, gears, suspension) in their WRC-cars nowadays?

Seems the Fiestas in top 10 are all the same except for drivers...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

M-Sport to expand and create road cars !

http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/multi-million-m-sport-expansion-may-bring-100-jobs-to-cumbria-1.1137974#

[manthey]

M-Sport new developments

Wilson will build the engine in house, so no more Pipo Moteur
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/rallyes/wm/nachrichten/news-detail/d/2014/08/27/loriaux-fahrer-entscheidendes-puzzleteil/index.html
From the article I didn't full understand (I don't speak german) the part about the back of gearbox paddles, they could use now more parts derived from series cars? thanks

[Sulland]

Malcolm Wilson interview by Rallye-magazin.de (translated) explaining how Fiesta R5 sales have enabled M-Sport to continue in the WRC ... :) Also how R5 is the future, the Fiesta 2.4 and RallyCross ... :eek:

WILSON: R5 WAS ESSENTIAL FOR SURVIVAL

For M-Sport the Ford Fiesta R5 is a complete success. Without this vehicle, the WRC program with the World Rally Car would not have been possible, as team principal Malcolm Wilson says. Also in the future the car will play a major role.

"The R5 project has enabled us to stay in the championship at the highest level. From a commercial point of view it was a great success, "said M-Sport boss Malcolm Wilson. "With Peugeot and Citroën now embarking also, I believe that there is a large market for R5-cars. We are fully booked until mid-June and get everyday new demands. There is a bright future for these cars. We also develop a R5 +, which is a R5 with WRC Turbo and 34mm restrictor, which can be used in national rallies. Even this we have been ten orders. I think the R5 has opened many doors for us. It is a car that will be used in national races, at the international level and it's just one second per mile slower than a WRC and at only 40 percent of the cost. Personally, I think that's the way the sport should go. We need to reduce costs further. "

While Wilson is facing a major challenge in 2015 to plan a new World Rally Car and finance, developed his team further expansion of the current fiestas. It's not just about the R5 +, but also to the Fiesta in 2400 , which is powered by a 325-hp 2.4-liter naturally aspirated engine. "These are all wishes of our customers," said Wilson. "We must do everything to survive in this business. So we look at all possible areas. The worst thing that can happen is that these cars are in the garage and not be moved. Come the vehicles used, then replacement parts are required, and of course we also need this business. But of course we must be successful. Are we not more, this enormous impact will have on our business. "

The issue of Rallycross is interesting for Wilson. M-Sport built for Ken Block on a vehicle and the competitiveness of the car let other drivers attention. "Rallycross is something we need to look. We think about owning a car that we can use with Ken and some other people, hopefully. "

Even in the smaller RC4 Class M-Sport remains active, although the FIA ??future Citroën chose as a supplier to the Junior World Cup. "We knew that this decision would come. Frankly, we were at the point to sell our entire R2 cars to Chile, because there is a appropriate championship, "said Wilson. "Then suddenly there was the possibility with DMACK. They wanted to make a difference and we have a better championship on its feet than before. It was not to work against the FIA, the DMACK-Challenge came out of nowhere and was bagged in a few hours. "

Whether he can count on the support of Ford in the near future? "I can not give an answer. When you think of the current economic situation of Ford, then you can understand that they do not look so long after the World Rally Championship or any other motor sport until their financial situation has improved significantly, "said Wilson.

The only thing missing in the M-sport deck is a R3. Why is that one missing, and are there plans?

[cardy]

any news on driver change next year???

[N.O.T]

no

[skarderud]

Some says here in norway that østberg is driving a ford next year. If it in the "factory"team, a sub team or private i dont know.

[Mintexmemory]

Next year 'works team' is Tanak and Evans

[RAS007]

Next year 'works team' is Tanak and Evans

Malcolm looking to continue M-Sport's winning ways in 2015....:rolleyes:

[Formaldehyde]

People say Hirvonen is done and burned out etc. And I agree with that sentiment... but it's hard to ignore the fact that he is the most well-placed driver in the championship after the VW boys. Sure, he won't win any championships, but I think M-Sport does not have the structure to seriously challenge either title at the moment. Hirvonen is almost guaranteed to always bring decent results, and I don't think it would be very smart to get rid of him just yet (again, he is the most successful driver in the championship after the guys with the best car).

[satukata]

Mikko is Top 3 driver!

Mikko could be 3 times world champion if there isn´t mr loeb..

[denkimi]

Mikko is Top 3 driver!

Mikko could be 3 times world champion if there isn´t mr loeb..

mikko was a top 3 driver, but this year he's top 6 driver at best.

[satukata]

Did you see Rally spain?

[makinen_fan]

Did you see Rally spain?

Did you watch the rest of the season?

[satukata]

Did you watch the rest of the season?

Mikko is best of the rest! Vw is too fast car! And Ford is maybe 4th fastest car, but mikko is 4th in championship. 16 points better than next of the rest

[denkimi]

Mikko is best of the rest! Vw is too fast car! And Ford is maybe 4th fastest car, but mikko is 4th in championship. 16 points better than next of the rest
ogier is faster, latvala is faster, meeke is faster, neuville is faster, sordo or mikkelsen is faster. that makes him 6 best at max.

but he's reliable.

[Franky]

Mikko is best of the rest! Vw is too fast car! And Ford is maybe 4th fastest car, but mikko is 4th in championship. 16 points better than next of the rest

You're saying that Hyundai is faster than Ford at the moment?

[satukata]

You're saying that Hyundai is faster than Ford at the moment?

I spoke with Juho Hänninen in rally finland and Juho said Huyndai is faster. so what we can say?

[satukata]

ogier is faster, latvala is faster, meeke is faster, neuville is faster, sordo or mikkelsen is faster. that makes him 6 best at max.

but he's reliable.

Mikko is faster than sordo and mikkelsen in gravel.. and meeke is crashmaster.. latvala was as fast as mikko when they were teammates... Mikko was 3rd fastest in rally spain so he is top 3 driver now!

[nafpaktos]

I spoke with Juho Hänninen in rally finland and Juho said Huyndai is faster. so what we can say?let me ask you then why hyundai cars didint set good stage times during the year?

[nafpaktos]

Mikko was 3rd fastest in rally spain so he is top 3 driver now!
Bouffier was second on monte so he was top 2 driver at that time!yes you are right!

[bluuford]

I spoke with Juho Hänninen in rally finland and Juho said Huyndai is faster. so what we can say?

Do you really think that Juho would say that his employer has miserable and very slow car? Good for you :-)

[satukata]

Do you really think that Juho would say that his employer has miserable and very slow car? Good for you :-)

I am not working in newspaper.. That was what Juho really think and Juho was much faster than Mikko and all other Fords in rally finland. You have to check stage times again..

I have been in almost every tests this year and last year so i know something :)

[Quad]

I am not working in newspaper.. That was what Juho really think and Juho was much faster than Mikko and all other Fords in rally finland. You have to check stage times again..

I have been in almost every tests this year and last year so i know something :)

Your point is not good from the point that you think that Hirvo was at max pace, which can't be said for sure. But for me Hyundai is propably a little faster than both M-Sport cars. I don't even count Kubica's Fiesta because it is slower than both M-Sport Fiestas

[Bartek]

Your point is not good from the point that you think that Hirvo was at max pace, which can't be said for sure. But for me Hyundai is propably a little faster than both M-Sport cars. I don't even count Kubica's Fiesta because it is slower than both M-Sport Fiestas

How do you know that Kubica's Fiesta is slower than other M-Sport cars?

[N.O.T]

How do you know that Kubica's Fiesta is slower than other M-Sport cars?

because he is probably either polish or a fan of his and he cannot handle the truth...

[Quad]

How do you know that Kubica's Fiesta is slower than other M-Sport cars?


It's because of his gearshift system. It's not working properly and is causing some problems making car accelerating slower from especially slow corners


You can easily spot this comparing his onboards with Hirvonen and Evans on WRC+. He is usually faster than both of them on braking and in corners, but when he is accelerating from corners he is starting to loose massively to others, it's especially noticeable on 1,2 and 3rd gear.

[pantealex]

I also think that Fiesta is slowest WRC

but I don´t think that Mikko is faster than Neuville/Hänninen

2 podiums in 2014 is not enough!

[Bartek]

It's because of his gearshift system. It's not working properly and is causing some problems making car accelerating slower from especially slow corners


You can easily spot this comparing his onboards with Hirvonen and Evans on WRC+. He is usually faster than both of them on braking and in corners, but when he is accelerating from corners he is starting to loose massively to others, it's especially noticeable on 1,2 and 3rd gear.

If you are comparing this with WRC+... One more thing, do not say such stupid things like it's especially noticeable on 1,2 and 3rd gear, do you have radar in your eyes? If there is a difference it's not 1sec/1km but maybe mili seconds. I know that M-Sport is not a Volkswagen but talking like this is funny for me. I watched many onboards with my friedns which are driving in some series and they didn't saw difference like you said.

Sorry, I like Robert, I'm sure that Fiesta's are slower that Polo or DS3 but please don't say such a stupid things after watching onboards from WRC+ about acceleration and differents in gearshift system.

[N.O.T]

you are arguing with someone who uses the WRC+ system to compare the speed of cars... have you realised that ?

Kubica is not physically or mentally able to achieve something more at the top of the sport.

[Quad]

If you are comparing this with WRC+... One more thing, do not say such stupid things like it's especially noticeable on 1,2 and 3rd gear, do you have radar in your eyes? If there is a difference it's not 1sec/1km but maybe mili seconds. I know that M-Sport is not a Volkswagen but talking like this is funny for me. I watched many onboards with my friedns which are driving in some series and they didn't saw difference like you said.

Sorry, I like Robert, I'm sure that Fiesta's are slower that Polo or DS3 but please don't say such a stupid things after watching onboards from WRC+ about acceleration and differents in gearshift system.


Then ask Kubica himself what he have to say about his gearshift system this season ;)





Kubica is not physically or mentally able to achieve something more at the top of the sport.

And you are stating this based on ? You are psychologist ? Or any factory team boss ? :rolleyes:

I think for example Matton have diffrent opinion on this case ;)

[N.O.T]

I am basing it on the fact he has more offs than starts... he is useless in a WRC and a danger for his own health.

Kubica drives because he pays and he will continue to do so...

[Rallyper]

Kubica drives because he has an ambition. Learning period is still present. Even next year, though we can hope he has matured (in drivers aspect) might be seen some offs. Take under consideration he has a few years in WRC car.

[thuGG]

9 minutes long interview with Kubica, in polish but with english subtitles:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Fv-j-fTY64

[RAS007]

Carrying on the conversation from the News thread regarding the Tanak announcement, and weak driver line-ups: the M-Sport driver line up for 2015 is probably the weakest ever, certainly for Ford. Realistically, they have no chance of winning any rallies, and Malcolm knows that. As someone else said, I'm not sure M-Sport will be able to even get on the podium. I don't know, it seems to me that with each passing year M-Sport has more in common with Kronos or Grifone, just running customer cars, with little interest in being competitive, or actually winning, with the only difference really being that Malcolm still pretends that they are trying to be competitive.

[stefanvv]

Well, I don't think it is that weak. We should expect lot more from both drivers in their non-first WRC season. Especially Tanak. Evans seems to have work on his gravel speed, but with asphalt Rallies he should be ok fighting for podium I think.

All-in-all this is the 3rd team this year, who knows may be next they'll fight for second.

[RAS007]

Maybe you're right, but I think they will be 4th out of 4 next year...

[RS]

Maybe you're right, but I think they will be 4th out of 4 next year...

I agree, but that shouldn't be a surprise or anything to be ashamed of when they are fighting against three factory teams.

I guess Malcolm is treading water until he can get a factory deal again.

[N.O.T]

I agree, but that shouldn't be a surprise or anything to be ashamed of when they are fighting against three factory teams.

I guess Malcolm is treading water until he can get a factory deal again.

I would not consider citroen a factory team

[jonkka]

I would not consider citroen a factory team

Oh - how so?

[AndyRAC]

I agree, but that shouldn't be a surprise or anything to be ashamed of when they are fighting against three factory teams.

I guess Malcolm is treading water until he can get a factory deal again.


Malcolm has a factory deal - its just not in the WRC..... ;)

[N.O.T]

Oh - how so?

No real support from the factory... they would not even be in without Abu Dhabi.

[rallyfun]

I am basing it on the fact he has more offs than starts... he is useless in a WRC and a danger for his own health.

Kubica drives because he pays and he will continue to do so...

You're an idiot

[N.O.T]

You're an idiot

No.

[GigiGalliNo1]

No he is not, BUT Kubica doesn't pay - Lotos does.

[janvanvurpa]

No.


Actually, you are despite sometimes having an interesting comment or 2. I cannot believe that you speak to anybody in even 1/5 the obnoxiousness that you sling out to everybody on line..
If you did, you would have long ago been beaten to a lifeless pulp..
More than once.

Several times in fact.
Grow up.

[N.O.T]

Actually, you are despite sometimes having an interesting comment or 2. I cannot believe that you speak to anybody in even 1/5 the obnoxiousness that you sling out to everybody on line..
If you did, you would have long ago been beaten to a lifeless pulp..
More than once.

Several times in fact.
Grow up.

How can you beat someone to a lifeless pulp more than once ???

[markf8691]

I would not consider citroen a factory team

Course Citroen are a factory team - yes they are getting a large part of their budget from Abu Dhabi tourism sponsorship but they have still paid the entry fee and are supplying 40% of the budget if memory serves me right. Citroen sport are also running the cars.

Out of interest does anybody have any idea how much each team budget is?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

As a matter of interest, how much do we think Evans and Tanak's sponsors pay to M-Sport for their drives ? And what do their sponsors get in return, just the pleasure of their man being in the WRC ?

Kubica's sponsor (Lotos) got their name as his livery, but nothing on Evans car for his father's business ?

[AndyRAC]

I'd be surprised if Evans was paying anything. Getting sponsorship for a niche sport in the UK is incredibly tough.

[dodge33cymru]

Evans will have a few personal sponsors but not much at all. With local companies sponsoring him, it helps them to have a 'spokesperson' and someone who they can ask to attend corporate events and so on. Local dealers are often supportive of these sorts of endeavours, but Evans is more of a pet project for Malcolm than anything else, I'd guess.

I don't know about Tanak.

A lot of younger guns in motorsport today have to really know 'someone' to get funding though - family members with personal companies or a prominent position on a board at a big company are lthe usual suspects.

Not much different to a lot of times in the past though, motorsport's never been cheap.

[Barreis]

Maybe dad supports something...
http://www.gwyndafevans.net/

[Fast Eddie WRC]

So all this about the only people who can drive an M-Sport car are those that can pay for it, are wrong ?

So Malcolm Wilson could have anyone to 'promote' his M-Sport brand in WRC but has chosen Evans & Tanak rather than allowed them drive in return for cash ...

[A FONDO]

Perhaps nobody wants to pay for a Ford anymore :D

[janvanvurpa]

Maybe dad supports something...
http://www.gwyndafevans.net/



Nahhh just a pure coincidence, just like so many other coincidences that daddy did something in some race car series, son miraculously genetically inherits connections..

[EstWRC]

As a matter of interest, how much do we think Evans and Tanak's sponsors pay to M-Sport for their drives ? And what do their sponsors get in return, just the pleasure of their man being in the WRC ?

Kubica's sponsor (Lotos) got their name as his livery, but nothing on Evans car for his father's business ?

According to estonian newspaper Tänak pays nothing for his seat but he doesn't get much of a salary too. His sponsors maybe will pay some test drives but it is too early to say because the contract was just made and they are negotiating things thru at the moment.

i guess Evans's pretty much the same.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

http://www.m-sport.co.uk/media/k2/items/cache/cfee1df0aef1bf88281266898fc4ff19_L.jpg

The M-Sport World Rally Team Ford Fiesta RS WRCs will be adorned with an exciting new livery this year as Elfyn Evans and Ott Tänak tackle the diverse nature of the 2015 FIA World Rally Championship (WRC).

Asphalt, snow, and gravel – the team's eye-catching design aims to inspire its young squad whilst igniting the imagination with a hint of nostalgia.

Having had a continued presence in the WRC since the series' was established in 1973, Ford cars have produced some of the most iconic liveries and M-Sport's 2015 offering harks back to some of the old favourites.

Inspired by Hannu Mikkola's 1980 Ford Escort RS 1800 MKII and the later 1989 Ford Sierra RS Cosworth of Colin McRae, M-Sport's new design reflects the Blue Oval's long and prestigious standing within the sport; a modern twist bringing the colour scheme up-to-date for this year's young and aspiring drivers.

Pairing a blast from the past with the ambition of Evans and Tänak, the team's long-term partners are also well represented. M-Sport enjoys continued support from Castrol and Michelin as well as a host of dedicated trade partners – all working together to realise the squad's potential.

The 2015 livery will be displayed on the main stage of the Autosport International this week before making its competitive debut on the legendary stages of Rallye Monte-Carlo at the end of the month.

Team Principal, Malcolm Wilson OBE, said:

"When designing this year's livery we were keen to produce something fresh and exciting whilst celebrating Ford's long and prestigious standing within the FIA World Rally Championship.

"Throughout history, Ford cars have produced some of the most striking colour schemes which became firm favourites around the globe. It's great to see some of these iconic liveries reflected in our 2015 car – a modern twist tailoring the design to our young and ambitious team.

"We continue to enjoy great support from all at Ford, Castrol and Michelin, not to mention our valued trade partners. I speak for everyone when I say that we are all looking forward to the season ahead and to unlocking the huge potential of both Elfyn [Evans] and Ott [Tänak]."

[Rallyper]

Looks good enough I believe!

[Ucci]

I like this livery!

[cardy]

looks nice I like it

[Jack4688`]

Looks good, just needs the support they need from Ford to see these cars running at the front

[Fly_Half]

Gwyndaf owns a small number of dealerships in Mid Wales, maybe enough to get Elfyn off on the right footing - but not to support his son in the WRC.

[Kielder]

100th Fiesta R5 has been sold...

http://i61.tinypic.com/jjmtxs.jpg

[Rallyper]

100th Fiesta R5 have been sold...

http://i61.tinypic.com/jjmtxs.jpg

To whom?

[driveace]

Probably Malcolm thinks that Eflyn is the best British prospect out there.Why not Kris Meeke ,who,s father prepared some cracking GP4 Escorts from the Sydney Meeke Motorsport stable ,I do not know .
I think that Ford supply the cars at cost or at a very cheap price to M Sport ,if not for free .
they are stripped ,and parts not needed are sold on through a Ford parts dealership somewhere .
Maybe M sport as a company make a lot of cash from building and selling customer cars ,and the package they sell with the cars .But it can only be classed as a private entrant ,whereas VW and Citroen must be classed as works entries

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B60u4CCCMAE1JxI.jpg:large

[EstWRC]

looks really awesome from this angle http://instagram.com/p/xpAMAYP7zC/?modal=true

[car]

Am I the only one who thinks it looks shit?

[N.O.T]

yes.

[nafpaktos]

Am I the only one who thinks it looks shit?

No, i think so too.

[Rallyper]

Am I the only one who thinks it looks shit?

One of the better liverys since the 80´s.

[Franky]

One of the better liverys since the 80´s.

The blue and white RS ones are better. The base livery is solid, but incorporating logos to the livery is close to MS Paint

[janvanvurpa]

Am I the only one who thinks it looks shit?

Possibly.

But from your detailed critique, you argued the case so well its hard to get a toe hold on just how to refute you..

Just looks like every other Dubya Arsey car with different paint.

Who cares? How does it go? What's the gear ratios, final drive? gravel suspension travel to the mm?
Where are the Homologation papers scanned and online to read the technical spec..
Paint? and STICKERS? Who cares?

[irish_tiger]

Evans will have a few personal sponsors but not much at all. With local companies sponsoring him, it helps them to have a 'spokesperson' and someone who they can ask to attend corporate events and so on. Local dealers are often supportive of these sorts of endeavours, but Evans is more of a pet project for Malcolm than anything else, I'd guess.

I don't know about Tanak.

A lot of younger guns in motorsport today have to really know 'someone' to get funding though - family members with personal companies or a prominent position on a board at a big company are lthe usual suspects.

Not much different to a lot of times in the past though, motorsport's never been cheap.


Probably Malcolm thinks that Eflyn is the best British prospect out there.Why not Kris Meeke ,who,s father prepared some cracking GP4 Escorts from the Sydney Meeke Motorsport stable ,I do not know .
I think that Ford supply the cars at cost or at a very cheap price to M Sport ,if not for free .
they are stripped ,and parts not needed are sold on through a Ford parts dealership somewhere .
Maybe M sport as a company make a lot of cash from building and selling customer cars ,and the package they sell with the cars .But it can only be classed as a private entrant ,whereas VW and Citroen must be classed as works entries

Did the MSA not pay for Eflyn seat at M-Sport last year ? Malcom give a seat for free.... lol you must be joking and Marko Martin or someone is paying for Tanaks seat ... especially after the last time he drove an M-sport car , or kept crashing it more the like . Malcom hasn't go the balls to go out or take a chance and find an up and coming driver that will win rallies.
He's not like Dave Richards who gave Colin,Richard and Peter their chance and won drivers titles with them . Just remember a Ford only ever won a drivers title with Ari Vatanen - and that time it was a private team . Ford will never win anything in its present format , and the history is there when your persisting with the likes of Latvala , and Mikko Hirvonen for years - statistics don't lie

[Sulland]

This livery is a big improvement over the almost black livery from 14.
but remains to be seen how it looks outdoors and on TV.

[AdvEvo]

Prices of various M sport cars. Shot was taken at NEC autosport fair birmingham.

http://i59.tinypic.com/29z5281.jpg

[Arnold Triyudho Wardono]

LOL, S2400 doesn't have price tag
And there're not S2000/RRC..

RX=Ken Block..?? (Bryan Herta Autosport will drive that in GRC)

[Mad cat jnr]

No Herta's is a second car as far a read it?

[mousti]

LOL, S2400 doesn't have price tag
And there're not S2000/RRC..

RX=Ken Block..?? (Bryan Herta Autosport will drive that in GRC)
S2400 maybe 1 or 2 that exist and probably not for sale. S2000 production has been stopped for a while and all are have been sold I think. RRC they could have done like the R200 conversion items from WRC or something like that, didn't seem important for them :p

[Barreis]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/117385

[Roy]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/117385

More information:

http://apexcircuitdesign.co.uk/portfolio/m-sport-evaluation-centre/

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Having their own test-track on site should be a real help for their development of the tarmac set-up of their rally cars.

Wilson: "What we want is for a team, a manufacturer or an individual to come here, have their car built then drive it out of the factory onto the track, shake it down and take it away in absolute confidence."

(They have always had a nearby forest to carry out the gravel set-ups... )

[AndyRAC]

I'd have thought building & running the GT3 Bentleys would have helped them with their Tarmac set up and performances; especially the input from the drivers.

[RAS007]

Whatever help this new facility may or not bring in development terms, the will to win has to be present, and I just don't think that mentality is there right now at M-Sport. If it was, why would the driver line-up be so weak? M-Sport have returned to their roots as a customer preparation outfit and their primary focus is making money, not winning.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

[QUOTE=RAS007;1033689 the will to win has to be present, and I just don't think that mentality is there right now at M-Sport. If it was, why would the driver line-up be so weak? M-Sport have returned to their roots as a customer preparation outfit and their primary focus is making money, not winning.[/QUOTE]

An M-Sport driver (Hirvonen) was the highest placed non-VW driver last season in the WRC and then he retired. The other teams have kept their best drivers and M-Sport cannot afford to pay big money for them anyway. I'm glad that they are giving young prospects a chance and building up great experience for their futures.

[AndyRAC]

What do you want them to do? They have 'technical support' from Ford but that is about it. Without major backing from a Manufacturer they're doing as well as they can. You wouldn't blame them if they were to focus more on the racing side - as they have Manufacturer backing for it.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

2015 drivers suits..

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7ocUSRCAAAlsug.jpg

[eib1]

@msportltd 1 hour ago

Have you noticed the amazing sound of this year's Ford Fiesta RS WRC? It's courtesy of a new exhaust for the 2015 season. Stay tuned for the biggest evolution the top-specification Fiesta has ever seen as the season progresses!


that´s why it sounded different

[AndyRAC]

What exhaust system is it running? Akrapovic??

[noel157]

" biggest evolution the top-specification Fiesta has ever seen"

More noise? Should help.....

[bluuford]

" biggest evolution the top-specification Fiesta has ever seen"

More noise? Should help.....

They are talking about the evolution that comes in April

[Barreis]

Yeah, on 1st of April...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

M-Sport team principal Malcolm Wilson has described the overhaul planned for the Ford Fiesta RS World Rally Car in 2015 as the biggest in its history.

Wilson promised no area of the car will be left untouched as M-Sport looks to end a winless spell that now stretches back more than two years.

The heavily revised Fiesta will break cover on the Rally of Portugal in May.

"The chassis remains the same with the new car, but the whole heart of the car is new," said Wilson.

"These will be the biggest changes we've made to the car since we introduced it in 2011."

A completely new engine is being readied at M-Sport's Cumbrian headquarters - the first time the two-time world champion team has developed the motor for its WRC challenger completely in-house.

The 2015 Fiesta is already up and running and while Wilson admitted to a small delay, he remains confident the car will be ready in time for Portugal.

"The engine has done a lot on the dyno," said Wilson. "We're just a little behind on the installation work, but the car's running a lot at Greystoke, so we're not too concerned at all."

[COD]

Hope the new car is a big improvemwnt. All they need now is sponsors and proper drivers...

[jparker]

MW can build 100s of cars from scratch, replace every single bold and nut, but still not going to get it competitive.
He has proven this very well for the last 20 years. I hope I'm wrong this time.

[Andre Oliveira]

The car is competitive. The main difference is the piece behind steering wheel!

[dodge33cymru]

I think they've certainly done a good job there too, considering the market and their lack of factory backing. Let's be honest, if you take Ogier and Neuville out of the equation, and assume the other teams have first pick of 'other' drivers, I'd say Tanak and Evans are a fair shout.

Great to see them evolve the car further, hopefully will keep it competitive for a while longer.

[EstWRC]

Great to know that we have these amazing people here who have driven the Fiesta themselves and they know that the car is so competitive and the current drivers really suck.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

MW can build 100s of cars from scratch, replace every single bold and nut, but still not going to get it competitive.
He has proven this very well for the last 20 years. I hope I'm wrong this time.

So how come MW won the manufacturer's Championship for Ford in 2006 & 2007 ? :rolleyes:

[N.O.T]

Great to know that we have these amazing people here who have driven the Fiesta themselves and they know that the car is so competitive and the current drivers really suck.

If you need to do something yourself in order to draw conclusions then you really have issues....

[N.O.T]

So how come MW won the manufacturer's Championship for Ford in 2006 & 2007 ? :rolleyes:

Do not reply to people who are clueless about everything... there is not point.

[jparker]

So how come MW won the manufacturer's Championship for Ford in 2006 & 2007 ? :rolleyes:

Car title, without driver title is something only MW appreciates ;)

[N.O.T]

Car title, without driver title is something only MW appreciates ;)

are you from australia ?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

M-Sport on the new Fiesta WRC debut in Portugal:

http://www.m-sport.co.uk/m-sport-news/fiesta-rs-wrc/new-ford-fiesta-rs-wrc-debuts-at-new-rally-de-portugal.html

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Interviews at M-Sport by WRC Becs Williams on the new Fiesta:

http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/media/podcasts/page/114--80--.html

[OldF]

New car from M-Sport (again). What next?

2 ltr R5.

http://www.m-sport.co.uk/m-sport-news/fiesta-r5/m-sport-aim-to-block-the-podium-at-sunday-river.html

https://twitter.com/MSportLtd/status/609348004148084736

[Munkvy]

Sounds like a good way to make a cut price WRC car on a largely R5 chassis, so probably a way to make a cheap WRC car of sorts? Like their press release says, only useful in countries where you can run a non-homologated car though.

[janvanvurpa]

Sounds like a good way to make a cut price WRC car on a largely R5 chassis, so probably a way to make a cheap WRC car of sorts?

Like their press release says, only useful in countries where you can run a non-homologated car though.

Somehow i don't think what you and Malcolm Wilson and Ben Klock think is cheap is anywhere in the same galaxy as most people think is cheap.
not with some 'purpose built engine'....
F1 on gravel. Just for the 'gentlemen drivers":rolleyes:

I guess the shame of him being incapable with his current spec car to beat in NZRC a young guy in a 40 year old REAR WHEEL DRIVE car has blown over for Block..just buy more press coverage and we'll all forget...:D

[RAS007]

Another disappointing showing for M-Sport this weekend, for me. What happened to the new improved Fiesta? Any feeling out there that Ford will get involved again, officially?