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jonas_mcrae

3rd January 2012, 18:07

Got it, this is my post from Last year:
(PS. Dont know if the street stage will be the same as last year, but the rest still applies)

Getting into Leon is quite easy, as someone else mentioned there is a direct flight from houston with continental, also I think there is one from Dallas with American Airlines but Im not sure if its still running. You can also fly to Mexico City and then drive (4 hours) or fly to Guadalajara and then drive to Leon (about 2 hours). I would not recommend driving all the way from the US right now, It would take you at least a day and roads are quite dangerous at the moment up north, so I would say no.

On accomodation, I've tried different things during the years but I find it better, cheaper and nicer to stay near the town centre. Hotels near the polyfirum (service park) get booked months in advance and even if you find a room, pricing will be ridiculous (for mexico prices), as these dates always have great demand. If you still want to stay near the service park there is a very nice Cityexpress hotel which I think has fixed prices most of the year, (around 80 dolars per night). There is also a hampton inn, but I guess the Holiday Inn and other hotels near by are already fully booked. My choice is Hotel Rex, just next to the main square in Leon, its an old hotel but the top floors have been refurbished recently so they are quite good, prices are really good as well, and its only about 10 minutes away from service. (check out their website ::HOTEL REAL REX (http://www.hotelrealrex.com/uno.htm)). I find being next to the main square a plus, as there are more things to do and better places to eat at, after a long day at the stages.

About vehicle rental there should be no trouble with that. Budget, Alamo and other companies have agencies in Leon and at the airport and prices for compact cars are quite good, specially if you book in advance. Just beware of the roads, If you can book a small SUV or a Pick Up, you will have a much better rally than with a compact...

As far as I know, pre paid tours are not available in Mexico, during the years I've met people in tours from France, Belgium, Germany and the UK, but none of them with a local company.

My advice would be, fly into leon, rent a car and go for it. The rally guide is quite good and if you have a GPS you will have no trouble finding your way around the stages. The street stage and ceremonial start is in Guanajuato, about an hour away from leon, in the past few years it has been very crowded, and now with a stage running through the historic city and the tunels, my guess is that is that crowds will increase, get there early! The SSS and the Street Stage (not really a street, it runs along a park next to the service park) are ok, but are not very spectacular and are highly time consuming, specially the SSS as the parking is quite difficult, so usually I stick to proper stages.

A few tips: plan the stages you want to see with plenty of time in between, some roads can be in quite a bad state so it will take some time to get there.
Carry plenty of liquids and some food, some stges have taco stands and sell corona, but this is not the rule
Print a few maps from the rally guide, they are usually quite good
Buy your tickets for the street stage and service park online, it can be a pain buying them once you arrive.

other than that, hope you have a great rally, enjoy the stages, the food and the beer.

userwave

3rd January 2012, 18:17

Pack a gun

N.O.T

3rd January 2012, 20:47

Is Leon far away from all these drug gang wars we hear about Mexico ??

jonas_mcrae

3rd January 2012, 22:04

Well it is kindda far away, the state of Guanajuato (where Leon is located) is not a drug gang hot spot, the most dangerous areas are mostly in the north (with north I mean at least 500kms north), closer to the border with the US and along the drug route from south america to the states, thats is mainly the Pacific Coast and the northern part of the Gulf. I guess the closest hot spot is the state of Zacatecas about 300 kms north where some violence has occurred. But this is a high profile event and Im sure the police presence will be very high.

danon

4th January 2012, 00:03

Nicole Scherzinger held at gunpoint in Mexico - New York Daily News (http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-12-15/news/30522447_1_nicole-scherzinger-x-factor-pussycat-dolls)

N.O.T

4th January 2012, 01:59

Nicole Scherzinger held at gunpoint in Mexico - New York Daily News (http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-12-15/news/30522447_1_nicole-scherzinger-x-factor-pussycat-dolls)

try to distinguish between real news and made up stories from nobody celebrities to attract attention.

Fri

4th January 2012, 10:46

rallysport.hu (http://www.rallysport.hu/images/2010/Photo/WRC/02_mexiko/02_szombat/pages/RSHU_Photo_069_jpg.htm)

Fri

4th January 2012, 11:02

href="http://www.rallysport.hu/images/2010/Photo/WRC/02_mexiko/02_szombat/index.htm" target="_blank">is it enough?</a>

http://www.rallysport.hu/images/2010/Photo/WRC/02_mexiko/02_szombat/images/RSHU_Photo_069_jpg.jpg

Fri

4th January 2012, 11:03

http://www.rallysport.hu/images/2010/Photo/WRC/02_mexiko/02_szombat/images/RSHU_Photo_069_jpg.jpg

pete c

5th January 2012, 01:31

Nice spectator uniforms http://www.motorsportforums.com/image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAA8AAAAPCAIAAAC 0tAIdAAAA/ElEQVQokWNgoATY3VhrdXGF8YmFOntnqWyahFOdx7PtXi93ejz b7nR3g9XFFYZH52vsmCa/qld0ThMWpQEf98HZdjfWmpxaDOGKz2/lnVCNotrr5U4GBobI/yeCvx1iYGBwuL2egYFBZ+8spfUTGBgY+CYiqba7sRZidvC3QwE f98HN1t4zU2n9BIjZrC1FUNVWF1cQ9D1LcyGUZXxiIQMDw////y+8+QNhILMhDKaGfKhqnb2zCKpmqM2FqoaEK7GqGRgY5Ff1MjA wYFWNrpSBgUF0TpP4/FYIG1k1VCmaagYGBt4J1SjhikcpHLC2FLE0FzI15BNQRwwAAFN or/aKdOwmAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC

userwave

8th January 2012, 15:23

it seems like every week we hear of a Canadian being murdered in Mexico
the place is a total war zone

CP24- Friends remember UBC student killed in Mexico (http://www.cp24.com/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20120107/120107_Student_Found_Dead/20120107/?hub=CP24Home)

jbmarcus21

8th January 2012, 18:21

program Programme du Rallye Wrc du Mexique 2012 (http://planetemarcus.free.fr/mexique12.htm)
and soon Google Earth Map ;)

N.O.T

8th January 2012, 18:28

very nice...many stages and some really long ones....very very nice.

Maui J.

8th January 2012, 20:32

I spent 2 & 1/2 months in Mexico a few years ago. Traveling from the US border into Baja, to the Guatemala border in the south, and visiting almost everywhere in between. Founds the Mexicans to be friendly, almost a little shy, and very welcoming people. We even found ourselves in one of the first cars stopped in a 5 hour road block by the Zapatistas in Chiapas. Even so we didn't feel threatened.

Unfortunately there are many drug related murders these days, but be street smart and stay away from the trouble spots and you will be fine.

I'd love to return to Mexico and watch the rally. Probably a very relaxing event to watch without the masses of the more popular European rounds.

I can't recommend the rally, as I haven't been, but I can recommend the country. Viva la Mexico!

gloomyDAY

9th January 2012, 06:59

Nicole Scherzinger held at gunpoint in Mexico - New York Daily News (http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-12-15/news/30522447_1_nicole-scherzinger-x-factor-pussycat-dolls)They should have pulled the trigger.

Leon is safe. Been there plenty of times. Just have fun, ffs!

Andre Oliveira

12th February 2012, 22:22

Can't wait to next round... The final day stage Guanajuatito with 54.30km will be the cherry on top of the cake :)

Barreis

13th February 2012, 07:39

Every rally should have one gigantic stage.

had_zachau

13th February 2012, 08:15

Martin Prokop said in finish of rally sweden, that we will see him in mexico.

Fly

13th February 2012, 08:24

Atkinson on a Ford according to Belgian TV commentator.

A FONDO

13th February 2012, 09:34

Martin Prokop said in finish of rally sweden, that we will see him in mexico.
Yes I heard it too and was surprised (pleasantly) because before the season he said he will do only the european events. Maybe these good recent results and his previous experience there encouraged him to expand the program. :) Waiting confirmation from Mads and maybe Henning?

Viking

13th February 2012, 10:06

Mads has said he will drive in Mexico, Henning has said "hope so" (sponsor still not 100% sorted). Wilson said from hospital that he will not be able to do it.

Mirek

13th February 2012, 12:56

Yes I heard it too and was surprised (pleasantly) because before the season he said he will do only the european events. Maybe these good recent results and his previous experience there encouraged him to expand the program. :)

If I understand it right Prokop was given an offer to drive instead of Matt.

wildboar

13th February 2012, 14:32

List of manufacturer entries: Rally Mexico - Entries (http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/pressreleases/wrc/2012/Pages/wrc-entries-mex.aspx)

Tom206wrc

13th February 2012, 16:40

Atkinson on a Ford according to Belgian TV commentator.

Good news !!! :cool:

EuroTroll

13th February 2012, 16:45

Good news !!! :cool:

Indeed! :up: It'll be very interesting to see what he can do.

cali

13th February 2012, 17:26

We have had these "good news" before from Atkinson, but then bad news has followed. Hopefully we can see Chris in Mexico, but I'm not gonna get carried away until I actually see him on the starting line.

alleskids

13th February 2012, 17:53

Mads has said he will drive in Mexico, Henning has said "hope so" (sponsor still not 100% sorted). Wilson said from hospital that he will not be able to do it.

do they flip a coin at the HQ of Go Fast? They probarly love Shakespeare: to Go Fast or not Go Fast, thats the question.
We had this yes/no game for Monte carlo. We had this yes/no game for Sweden. I bet we have this yes/no game every rally untill Rally Espana :( .

pucky54

13th February 2012, 18:34

Monster should pay for one Fiesta which Atkinson and Block share over the season, done!

mousti

13th February 2012, 18:48

Atkinson on a Ford according to Belgian TV commentator.
Did Eric Dupain mentioned that maybe or on RTBF? Don't see anything on Baert's twitter so I guess it was Eric or someone from RTBF.

Fly

13th February 2012, 21:01

Did Eric Dupain mentioned that maybe or on RTBF? Don't see anything on Baert's twitter so I guess it was Eric or someone from RTBF.

Former co-driver Georges Biar mentioned the news on RTBF.

Plan9

13th February 2012, 22:25

List of manufacturer entries: Rally Mexico - Entries (http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/pressreleases/wrc/2012/Pages/wrc-entries-mex.aspx)

No Sordo...

pucky54

13th February 2012, 22:33

No Sordo...

???

tolis

13th February 2012, 22:36

No Sordo...
Sordo is not a manufacturer entry. However, I don't think he'll start in Mexico.

Viking

13th February 2012, 22:42

List of manufacturer entries: Rally Mexico - Entries (http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/pressreleases/wrc/2012/Pages/wrc-entries-mex.aspx)

Adapta/ Østberg now registered WRC Team, they should have done that before Sweden...

tfp

13th February 2012, 22:43

Monster should pay for one Fiesta which Atkinson and Block share over the season, done!

Best idea Ive heard so far!
But like Cali says, we have had good news from Atko in the past, and nothing came of it :mad:

pucky54

13th February 2012, 23:00

Adapta/ Østberg now registered WRC Team, they should have done that before Sweden...

They did!?!? They appeared on FIA list actually before Sweden

bluuford

13th February 2012, 23:05

They did!?!? They appeared on FIA list actually before Sweden

Yeah, but they have to register at the same time as they give in their entry to the event. They registered a few weeks later (After Swedish entries were already in), so, they were not as manufacturers in Sweden. Why? Why to risk with team orders and loose potential podium place to one of the Ford drivers? Now Malcolm got 1, and 3 in Sweden and Ostberg got his podium, all village is happy :-)

euskalteam

14th February 2012, 08:58

Sordo is not a manufacturer entry. However, I don't think he'll start in Mexico.

Sordo confirms today that he will not be in Mexico.

Prodrive will test in Málaga (south of Spain) before Portugal, the next rallye for Sordo.

jbmarcus21

14th February 2012, 16:12

Google Earth Map Rally Mexico is now out
Programme du Rallye Wrc du Mexique 2012 (http://bit.ly/v8IcTa)

J.Lindstroem

14th February 2012, 17:22

Sordo confirms today that he will not be in Mexico.

sux.

RAS007

14th February 2012, 17:54

do they flip a coin at the HQ of Go Fast? They probarly love Shakespeare: to Go Fast or not Go Fast, thats the question.

LOL.

If the answer to that question is "Not Go Fast", they can choose one of 2 options: a) Withdraw sponsorship for that event, or b) sponsor Matthew Wilson.

Tom206wrc

15th February 2012, 16:34

No entrylist yet :confused:

danon

15th February 2012, 18:10

Viva La Fiesta WRC, Viva Mexico! :D

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/8606/mexwrc.jpg

tolis

15th February 2012, 18:12

No entrylist yet :confused:
Tomorrow it will be published according to RG2.

MJW

15th February 2012, 18:14

Tomorrow it will be published according to RG2. Interestingly, one day after the mONSTER wORLD rally Team launch. I wonder if Chris Atkinson figures in that? I have it on good authority he will be in a Fiesta WRC in Mexico.

pucky54

15th February 2012, 18:25

...one day after the mONSTER wORLD rally Team launch...

Launch postponed. Will take place tomorrow instead of today

Luky_cro

15th February 2012, 18:45

Too bad for Sordo. They have a great team, a great car, and a very decent driver (altough they used to have two), and I just don't understand their strategy.

Anyway, what do you expect from Nasser on gravel stages in Mexico? He is usually very fast on gravel and I would like to see his name high on the timing lists.

tolis

15th February 2012, 20:24

Ricardo Trivino in a Ford WRC?

pucky54

15th February 2012, 20:35

Ricardo Trivino in a Ford WRC?

Dunno! He is entered in PWRC for sure.

tolis

15th February 2012, 20:43

Dunno! He is entered in PWRC for sure.
According to his FB page he has entered the rally in a Fiesta WRC!

Kielder

16th February 2012, 12:25

I hope Pancho Name, who has rented a Prodrive's Mini, could run the event with it.

Allar

16th February 2012, 17:09

Tomorrow it will be published according to RG2.
still nothing? or is it still early in Mexico?

Roy

16th February 2012, 18:17

countdown to new livery and schedule Monster WRT

countdown | Monster World Rally Team (http://www.monsterworldrallyteam.com/)

Gregor-y

16th February 2012, 18:27

mousti

16th February 2012, 19:17

Name will start in Mexico with the Mini WRC he gets the Mini Sordo drove last year "1 WRC". So Prodrive will be there atleast for him.

danon

16th February 2012, 20:19

Name's car - [WRC] Rallye du Mexique 2012 - 8 au 11 mars - Forum-Rallye - Page 2 (http://www.forum-rallye.com/index.php?/topic/2224-rallye-du-mexique-2012-8-au-11-mars/page__st__30)

pucky54

16th February 2012, 20:22

Just a show car!

Plan9

16th February 2012, 20:33

Ken Block should be at a local rally in Missouri next weekend where I normally volunteer. Not with a WR car but some kind of AWD Fiesta that should give David Higgins (contracted to Subaru USA) some competition.

As I recall Ken won the 100 Acre rally in the 4 door Fiesta. That is to date his only win with Ford. It doesn't seem like he will be strictly a "rally" driver any more...

dimviii

16th February 2012, 20:41

countdown to new livery and schedule Monster WRT

countdown | Monster World Rally Team (http://www.monsterworldrallyteam.com/)
nice livery!
http://www.monsterworldrallyteam.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/null/HFHV_3quarter-Front_L.jpg

mousti

16th February 2012, 20:42

Just a show car!
Sordo drove that one, and then it got used as a test for potential buyers, like Warmbold for example.

pucky54

16th February 2012, 21:06

Sordo drove that one, and then it got used as a test for potential buyers, like Warmbold for example.

Wrong. "1 WRC" don't exist anymore as the car was sold to Ireland after Sordo drove Sardegna and Finland with it.

So thats definately a show car on the photo with Name's name on it!

danon

16th February 2012, 21:35

Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=13375/)

mousti

16th February 2012, 22:45

Wrong. "1 WRC" don't exist anymore as the car was sold to Ireland after Sordo drove Sardegna and Finland with it.

So thats definately a show car on the photo with Name's name on it!
Has he something to promote with it because he has connection with Mini because else I don't see sense in bringing that car in without driving the rally.

Andre Oliveira

16th February 2012, 23:10

At February 2

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_J2bklqf8uo/TyqR8Eh92EI/AAAAAAAACto/DXfPEvtoXIg/s1600/Francisco_Name.jpg

Plan9

16th February 2012, 23:39

Anyone got any info on this Name guy? If he is driving any MINI I assume he is reasonably talented?

PLuto

17th February 2012, 00:31

Here is some info about Francisco Name - Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=13116)

(it is in czech, but you can use translator)

Something like official page is here - Pancho Name (http://escuderiatelmex.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&layout=item&id=1991&Itemid=342&lang=es)

Kielder

17th February 2012, 00:34

Anyone got any info on this Name guy? If he is driving any MINI I assume he is reasonably talented?

In 2005 he won the Mexican 206 Cup, allowing him to participate in the Rally International de Bourgogne (France). Then, in 2007, he won the Mitsubishi Cup driving a Evo IX. He not only has competed at his country, besides he won the rally Tour of the Republic of Ecuador in 2008. Last was his best year, winning the last four rallyes (on tarmac) of the Mexican Championship, finishing it in the second place, despite of mechanical problems in several rallyes at the start of the Championship in his Evo X.
So he is reasonably talented. Strong sponsor as Telmex allow him to be in Mexico with the Mini. I can say that he deserves this oportunity, he is not a "0" Car like Nobre.

Prisoner Monkeys

17th February 2012, 04:19

nice livery!
http://www.monsterworldrallyteam.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/null/HFHV_3quarter-Front_L.jpg
I thought this was an absolutely horrible livery to begin with ... but then I watched the interview video and realised it was an asymmetric design, and I loved it.

Plan9

17th February 2012, 06:31

In 2005 he won the Mexican 206 Cup, allowing him to participate in the Rally International de Bourgogne (France). Then, in 2007, he won the Mitsubishi Cup driving a Evo IX. He not only has competed at his country, besides he won the rally Tour of the Republic of Ecuador in 2008. Last was his best year, winning the last four rallyes (on tarmac) of the Mexican Championship, finishing it in the second place, despite of mechanical problems in several rallyes at the start of the Championship in his Evo X.
So he is reasonably talented. Strong sponsor as Telmex allow him to be in Mexico with the Mini. I can say that he deserves this oportunity, he is not a "0" Car like Nobre.

Very good for him. Will he do more WRC after Mexico with MINI? I am beginning to think we might see Richard Mason in a MINI for Rally NZ.

Also if there is another WRC game, there is going to be a very large array of official MINI drivers on offer methinks.

leighton323

17th February 2012, 07:44

I am beginning to think we might see Richard Mason in a MINI for Rally NZ.

Did you just make this up? Very very slim chance, impossible in fact.

Bartolbia84

17th February 2012, 08:22

Entry list?

Kielder

17th February 2012, 08:39

Very good for him. Will he do more WRC after Mexico with MINI? I am beginning to think we might see Richard Mason in a MINI for Rally NZ.

Also if there is another WRC game, there is going to be a very large array of official MINI drivers on offer methinks.

I suppose this is an one-off for Name.
This year everything is possible in Mini, even another Richard, Branson codrived by David Richards for Rally GB.

Spud

17th February 2012, 11:15

I suppose this is an one-off for Name.
This year everything is possible in Mini, even another Richard, Branson codrived by David Richards for Rally GB.

lolol.....this I would pay to see!!!!

Gregor-y

17th February 2012, 15:16

nice livery!
http://www.monsterworldrallyteam.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/null/HFHV_3quarter-Front_L.jpg

I thought this was an absolutely horrible livery to begin with ... but then I watched the interview video and realised it was an asymmetric design, and I loved it.
I saw a preview at a local event a few weeks ago:
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/5062/golfr.jpg

A FONDO

17th February 2012, 15:37

still not better than this :D

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=277394622282303&set=a.277392902282475.66246.277380428950389&type=3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBlkJ4Jie84

Tom206wrc

17th February 2012, 15:54

Shouldn't entrylist been released on 15th february :confused:

rallyfiend

17th February 2012, 18:53

Atkinson in a second Monster WRT car in Mexico.

MJW

17th February 2012, 19:33

Atkinson in a second Monster WRT car in Mexico.
Is that now official? I can't see a published entry list but I have been told that Atkinson is in a Fiesta WRC, so I thought he may have been using Matthew's car because of his injury.

rallyfiend

17th February 2012, 19:34

I think Trivino is using Matthews Car - as he had originally planned a PWRC assault. He's obviously changed tack for this event.

MJW

17th February 2012, 19:37

I think Trivino is using Matthews Car - as he had originally planned a PWRC assault. He's obviously changed tack for this event.
Is the complete entry list available? I am told that MSport are running 8 Fiesta WRC cars.

tfp

17th February 2012, 19:47

Is atko definetly competing in Mexico or what?

Plan9

17th February 2012, 20:06

Did you just make this up? Very very slim chance, impossible in fact.

I was a joke bro.

Andre Oliveira

17th February 2012, 20:13

Armindo Araújo said that the team will not testing before Mexico. The car has to do the review and embark for Mexico. The team has only these two cars. In Italy the weather does not allow testing with minimal preparation for this event.

darkstar

17th February 2012, 20:15

comeback for atkinson, thats soo cool! nice! last time he did the rallye he was 2nd, hope he can at least get a top5 result.

tolis

17th February 2012, 20:34

So 30 entries, 16 WRC cars and 6 PWRC drivers+Ogier, Abbring according to
WRC-Fiesta in Mexiko*:: rallye-magazin.de (http://www.rallye-magazin.de/rallyes/wm/nachrichten/news-detail/d/2012/02/17/wrc-fiesta-in-mexiko/index.html)

jbmarcus21

17th February 2012, 21:18

#WRC Rally Guanajuato México 2012 entrylist is now out Programme du Rallye Wrc du Mexique 2012 (http://t.co/T25kue4h)

Allyc85

17th February 2012, 21:24

Brilliant to see Atkinson back!

So 30 entries, 16 WRC cars and 6 PWRC drivers+Ogier, Abbring according to
WRC-Fiesta in Mexiko*:: rallye-magazin.de (http://www.rallye-magazin.de/rallyes/wm/nachrichten/news-detail/d/2012/02/17/wrc-fiesta-in-mexiko/index.html)

Is there a national rally to go along side the WRC?!

tolis

17th February 2012, 21:34

Anyone from Hungary knows if Tibor Erdi has registered for PWRC?

Andre Oliveira

17th February 2012, 21:36

Very good news. Atkinson deserves.

EightGear

17th February 2012, 23:35

Very very good to see Atko on the list.

However, the complete list is not great. All the top guys in WRC cars are there of course, but only 2 Super 2000's and a total of 30 competitors...

But that doesn't mean the fight at the top will be bad of course. Atkinson might be a surprise. At least that's what I hope! :D

PuddleJumper

17th February 2012, 23:44

Pickems news (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wrc/141247-pickem-results-rally-gb-online-winner-luis-pacheco-2nd-fastboy-3rd-raybak-leader-donjippo.html#post1008553)

6789

18th February 2012, 00:18

Awesome news!!! Hopefully Atko can keep it on the road and put in a solid performance!

leighton323

18th February 2012, 00:53

I was a joke bro.

Sorry, must have read it in the wrong context :)

Plan9

18th February 2012, 01:09

comeback for atkinson, thats soo cool! nice! last time he did the rallye he was 2nd, hope he can at least get a top5 result.
Well at least he and Ken will be spectacular. I hope he can do more events with Monster. It would be a shame not to have that livery in as many events as possible!!!

Plan9

18th February 2012, 01:13

Very good news. Atkinson deserves.

+1 maybe there is hope yet for Meeke if Atko can get a drive.

scorpaguy

18th February 2012, 01:32

Wow...I started this thread and got nothing for weeks...now an explosion of replies...and very interesting too. Unfortunately my travel agent would not book the trip stating safety concerns.

....but i did get booked with Ralley Travels for the Portugal event...my first Rally! I do hope to make Mexico next year.

Wim_Impreza

18th February 2012, 09:49

Martin Prokop said in finish of rally sweden, that we will see him in mexico.

He isn't on the entry list.

Ciko

18th February 2012, 10:06

Anyone from Hungary knows if Tibor Erdi has registered for PWRC?

No, he will do Mexico, Germany and Spain only.

Tom206wrc

18th February 2012, 10:19

...
Is there a national rally to go along side the WRC?!

Well, first I thought Peugeot Mexico stopped the "Reto 206"(or "206 Cup" if you prefer)but I see 3 crews on entrylist :confused:

bluuford

18th February 2012, 10:58

No, he will do Mexico, Germany and Spain only.

He has P3 in Mexico, that means he scores PWRC points in Mexico, he must be teamed up with someone.

tolis

18th February 2012, 11:41

He has P3 in Mexico, that means he scores PWRC points in Mexico, he must be teamed up with someone.
Or maybe he is a wildcard entry. Don't forget that in Sweden, Marius Aasen was a wildcard entry in SWRC, although he is Norwegian.

N.O.T

18th February 2012, 13:16

keep the information about tourists and nobodies with no future coming...we need it.

WRCS14

18th February 2012, 14:40

I understand Malcolm let Chris drive 350+km of testing in UK in the last week or so.

I always thought he was able to push Solberg in their last year together so I hope Chris will do well.

The only bad thing for Chris is that Monster World Rally team have cut back their events to only 3 this year. I thought the 3rd year was supposed to be Kens full season etc but obviously priorities have changed.

Atkinson should be able to achieve at least a top 5 finish in Mexico ?

bluuford

18th February 2012, 16:05

Or maybe he is a wildcard entry. Don't forget that in Sweden, Marius Aasen was a wildcard entry in SWRC, although he is Norwegian.
Well, one part of the rally was held in Nowray. Hungary was pretty far away from Mexico, last time I checked it on the map ;-) But who knows.
Those are called Guest Drivers nowadays and rgulations state: The FIA will allocate 2 permanent numbers for Guest Drivers. Remaining P3 drivers shall be allocated sequential numbers by the organiser up to number 50 (or greater if the number of entries requires).
Those numbers (for Guest Drivers) in Sweden were 49 and 63.

bluuford

18th February 2012, 18:09

#WRC Rally Guanajuato México 2012 entrylist is now out Programme du Rallye Wrc du Mexique 2012 (http://t.co/T25kue4h)
That is 25% increase in entries:-)

PLuto

19th February 2012, 12:50

Well, one part of the rally was held in Nowray. Hungary was pretty far away from Mexico, last time I checked it on the map ;-) But who knows.
Those are called Guest Drivers nowadays and rgulations state: The FIA will allocate 2 permanent numbers for Guest Drivers. Remaining P3 drivers shall be allocated sequential numbers by the organiser up to number 50 (or greater if the number of entries requires).
Those numbers (for Guest Drivers) in Sweden were 49 and 63.

In Sweden guest drivers were 48 and 49. But Patrick Flodin cancelled his entry before the race, so they "moved" wild card to Aasen, who had 63.

had_zachau

19th February 2012, 21:42

Ricardo Trivino

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/407232_10150676418150733_206160890732_11466810_149 6595011_n.jpg

tolis

22nd February 2012, 15:16

Final Entry List announced: http://www.rallymexico.com/files/noticeboard/EntryListMx12.pdf

Doon

22nd February 2012, 15:34

Final Entry List announced: http://www.rallymexico.com/files/noticeboard/EntryListMx12.pdf

31 in total on a WRC event is p*ss poor. If the event was interesting this low figure might be acceptable, but it's not, it's boring and regularly have competitors had rocks hurled at their cars by retarded spectators.

In a world where Rally New Zealand is on 'roatation', and a great well supported event like Poland was only run once, and sh*te events like Mexico still run, the FIA need fireworks shuving up their ars*s.

rallyfiend

22nd February 2012, 15:41

31 in total on a WRC event is p*ss poor. If the event was interesting this low figure might be acceptable, but it's not, it's boring and regularly have competitors had rocks hurled at their cars by retarded spectators.

In a world where Rally New Zealand is on 'roatation', and a great well supported event like Poland was only run once, and sh*te events like Mexico still run, the FIA need fireworks shuving up their ars*s.

I was lucky enough to visit Rally Mexico last year, and I have to disagree with you here.

It was one of the best events I've ever been to - not just rallies - events. The ceremonial start and street stage in Guanajuato, probably the best attended and run service parks, and a podium ceremony you wouldn't believe. This event represents exactly what the WRC needs more of to get wider appeal, rather than just cars bombing around in empty forests (Wales, Turkey, Cyprus, Sardinia,Japan etc etc). NZ may have great roads for the drivers, but as an event, it can sometimes leave a lot to be desired. I've been 4 or 5 times over the years.....

tolis

22nd February 2012, 17:09

No Henning in Mexico???

Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=13396)

sollitt

22nd February 2012, 20:27

31 in total on a WRC event is p*ss poor. If the event was interesting this low figure might be acceptable, but it's not, it's boring and regularly have competitors had rocks hurled at their cars by retarded spectators.

In a world where Rally New Zealand is on 'roatation', and a great well supported event like Poland was only run once, and sh*te events like Mexico still run, the FIA need fireworks shuving up their ars*s. You're absolutely correct Doon. And this is exactly the counter argument to those who think WRC should turn it's back on countries which support the sport, and follow the 'perception' of market size.

NZ may have great roads for the drivers, but as an event, it can sometimes leave a lot to be desired. Not saying I disagree necessarily, but rather than fire bullets and then hide behind generalities, be specific.

BDunnell

22nd February 2012, 20:31

I was lucky enough to visit Rally Mexico last year, and I have to disagree with you here.

It was one of the best events I've ever been to - not just rallies - events. The ceremonial start and street stage in Guanajuato, probably the best attended and run service parks, and a podium ceremony you wouldn't believe. This event represents exactly what the WRC needs more of to get wider appeal, rather than just cars bombing around in empty forests (Wales, Turkey, Cyprus, Sardinia,Japan etc etc).

But how could the WRC gain wider appeal from including events that are unable to attract entries of much more than 30 cars, as is the case in Mexico this year?

rallyfiend

22nd February 2012, 21:10

But how could the WRC gain wider appeal from including events that are unable to attract entries of much more than 30 cars, as is the case in Mexico this year?

Does the casual fan care how many cars are in the event? Do they know that there's 100 cars in some events, and 30 in others?

Tomi

22nd February 2012, 21:25

Does the casual fan care how many cars are in the event? Do they know that there's 100 cars in some events, and 30 in others?

Why should anyone care about what the "casual fan" wants, they are just casual. Sport wise its a shame with only 30 cars on the line.

A FONDO

22nd February 2012, 21:57

I am okay with Mexico entry list. 16 WRC, 6 PWRC, 2 strong S2000 and 3 domestic N4 - I dont follow more than this in any other rally. Stages are excellent and this event truly deserves its place in the calendar.

Does anybody know what will be the intervaw between cars - 2 or 3 minutes? And how many tyres each crew have?

tfp

23rd February 2012, 00:12

Why should anyone care about what the "casual fan" wants, they are just casual. Sport wise its a shame with only 30 cars on the line.

Casual fans are still viewers, and casual fans can turn into hardcore fans. Viewing figures need to be up either way, and Mexico does have some good stages. But you are correct, 30 odd cars isn't enough, and by the time you add up retirements, maybe an R2 car will finish on the podium :D

I wonder how many casual fans follow F1, as opposed to hardcore fans, of which (for example) post on this forum? Its all exposure, and thats what we need at the minute :)

olschl

23rd February 2012, 03:00

Why should anyone care about what the "casual fan" wants, they are just casual. Sport wise its a shame with only 30 cars on the line.

Beautifully sums up why the WRC is failing! Well done.

sollitt

23rd February 2012, 03:05

Gregor-y

24th February 2012, 15:26

Thirty wouldn't be so low if there were more local competitors. We've got close to sixty at a local event this weekend. Some locals even turned up with a caged Festiva (Kia Pride) that passed inspection. Luckily I'm just working time controls; the spectator crews are gearing up for what we're calling the 'Ken Block Challenge.''

bopApocalypse

24th February 2012, 21:49

We've been through this before. It's not "all exposure" at all. Forget the 30 cars. Without the WRC circus there's just 9 local crews. Where's the justification to take the pinnacle of our sport to a country where it's non existent. The 9 local entries isn't just indicative of the dearth of local support but also of the amount of interest. No doubt the organisers will have arranged some 'rent-a-crowds' for the start & finish but, in real terms, in the world's most populated city ... no one will be watching.

For what it's worth, the Rally Mexico organizers run the "Rally America" event (no relation to the North American sanctioning body) along side WRC Mexico - the past few years, it has been all the same stages except for some of the SSS, doesn't require FIA homologated cars, and has an entry fee that's probably 1/10 that of the full WRC event.

While this national event doesn't overflow with entries like it probably would in Europe, there's definitely more interest than 9 locals.

It's either:
a) There's only 9 locals who can afford a homologated car, WRC entry fee, etc.
b) There's not enough value for most of the locals (or their sponsors) to justify the $$$$$$ for a homologated car, entry fee etc.

Are they taking the sport to a country where there's less participation in rally than all of Europe? Sure. Non-exsistent seems like a stretch, though.

PLuto

1st March 2012, 11:43

Francisco Name will not start with Mini John Cooper Works WRC - Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=13429)

Kielder

1st March 2012, 13:59

Francisco Name will not start with Mini John Cooper Works WRC - Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=13429)

I hope that broadcasting of SS1 on Escuderia Telmex site won`t be cancelled now that Name won't start. Telmex was the main Name's sponsor.

ProRally

1st March 2012, 15:27

Francisco Name will not start with Mini John Cooper Works WRC - Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=13429)

Why ?

rallyfiend

1st March 2012, 15:45

I'd be willing to bet that without the Sordo car going, the money to be paid to Prodrive by Name to do it on his own would have gone up astronomically (economy of scale...) so they had to bail.

Mirek

2nd March 2012, 10:36

Why ?

Looks like it's still opened. Money issue.

Barreis

2nd March 2012, 20:40

Sebastien Loeb says final leg of Rally Mexico will be tough to manage - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97801)

jbmarcus21

4th March 2012, 21:08

Full program, Timetable, Entrylist, Google Earth Map & Mobile Live Results Programme du Rallye Wrc du Mexique 2012 (http://bit.ly/v8IcTa)

Andre Oliveira

4th March 2012, 21:37

Armindo Araújo Official Facebook page: (http://www.facebook.com/FasArmindoAraujo)

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/430537_10151353913665597_292402850596_22967682_128 6127605_n.jpg

N.O.T

5th March 2012, 12:21

bluuford

5th March 2012, 12:26

just a little help with the time zone

the real rally starts at 8:08 friday morning local time which means

16:08 on Friday for Greece and Finland
14:08 on Friday for the UK
15:08 on Friday for rest of EU

you can thank me now with all your heart...

you can add 16:08 for Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Bulgaria and Romania as well :-)
and 14:08 Portugal.

..I am ready to share all the credits you receive ;-)

tolis

5th March 2012, 14:27

3 days to go!!!

http://dl.groovygecko.net/anon.groovy/clients/igentics/FIApress/inbrief/mexico-2012-480a.jpg

omer yetis

5th March 2012, 16:35

you can add 16:08 for Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Bulgaria and Romania as well :-)
and 14:08 Portugal.

..I am ready to share all the credits you receive ;-)

then let me handle the Asia & Pacific

22:08 China (friday)
23:08 Japan (friday)
01:08 Australia East time (saturday)
03:08 New Zealand (saturday)

dimviii

6th March 2012, 20:40

http://i45.servimg.com/u/f45/12/15/26/89/42212110.jpghttp://i45.servimg.com/u/f45/12/15/26/89/captu107.jpghttp://i45.servimg.com/u/f45/12/15/26/89/captu103.jpghttp://p.twimg.com/AnUqHG0CMAAvizp.jpg

dimviii

6th March 2012, 20:42

New livery for Nobre
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/424828_10150709893900733_206160890732_11584520_649 996654_n.jpg

tolis

6th March 2012, 22:48

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/426151_2829555179609_1280995559_32422416_474624358 _n.jpg

Andre Oliveira

6th March 2012, 23:31

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/429945_10150577289122006_227651747005_8703529_6086 9986_n.jpg

Gherid_lacksGPS

7th March 2012, 04:24

Excited. So nice not having to follow a rally starting at 2 am in the morning....

Edit: thanks for the photo's updates.

Plan9

7th March 2012, 06:19

Is Atko's car carrying a different livery to Ken's???

rallye-sport

7th March 2012, 08:29

Reconnaissance photos and Service Park : Photos Rallye du Mexique 2012 (http://www.rallye-sport.fr/photos-rallye-du-mexique-2012/)

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/mexique-2012/dsc_0353.jpg

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/mexique-2012/mexique-007.jpg

MJW

7th March 2012, 09:43

Iskald

7th March 2012, 09:58

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/426151_2829555179609_1280995559_32422416_474624358 _n.jpg

Serious waste of a good car for a totally talentless journeyman driver! But money talks, I suppose... :(

tolis

7th March 2012, 11:01

Paulo Nobre eating with the VW guys.
Any chance of seeing him driving the factory VW next year as a second driver? :D

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/427620_247044075385600_224994057590602_520112_1203 162134_n.jpg

Roy

7th March 2012, 11:26

The usual recce / service park photos, Facebook and Twitter updates from Mexico are starting to come through, but I cant see any reference to Henning and Go Fast. Can anyone confirm if Henning is entering Mexico or has he pulled his entry as was being rumoured some weeks ago?

Henning drives not in Mexico.

Ford duo play fast and loose in Mexican mountains (http://www.m-sport.co.uk/index.php/news/994-high-flying-ford-duo-play-fast-and-loose-in-mexican-mountains-)

Six privately-entered Fiesta RS WRCs supplement the official cars. Ott Tänak / Kuldar Sikk and Evgeny Novikov / Denis Giraudet are nominated by M-Sport Ford World Rally Team. Monster World Rally Team makes its seasonal debut with cars entered for Ken Block / Alex Gelsomino and Chris Atkinson / Stephane Prévot. Mads Østberg / Jonas Andersson are entered by Adapta World Rally Team, with Mexican driver Ricardo Trivino / Alex Haro completing the Fiesta RS WRC line-up.
No word about Henning.

MikeD

7th March 2012, 12:35

Serious waste of a good car for a totally talentless journeyman driver! But money talks, I suppose... :(

Looks like he has the Go Fast sponsorship for this round ... also looks like he will be on DMACK tires.

dimviii

7th March 2012, 15:44

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/417701_316366451755944_164125576980033_968231_8892 82022_n.jpg

Maxi

7th March 2012, 16:54

Is Atko's car carrying a different livery to Ken's???

Yes it is.

pdr

7th March 2012, 17:39

Yes it is.

IIRC, the colours are swapped black for white.

Maxi

7th March 2012, 18:57

Here's a comparison of Block and Atko's cars

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/mexique-2012/dsc_0353.jpg
http://p.twimg.com/AnUqHG0CMAAvizp.jpg

Andre Oliveira

7th March 2012, 19:09

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/424074_10151361880585597_292402850596_22999815_579 287479_n.jpg

dimviii

7th March 2012, 19:34

http://i48.servimg.com/u/f48/13/98/50/80/redime10.jpg

N.O.T

7th March 2012, 19:55

I hate facebook....

mousti

7th March 2012, 20:10

Hirvonen walked to Mexico :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yFNtba_qfh0

Juha_Koo

7th March 2012, 20:36

Hirvonen walked to Mexico :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yFNtba_qfh0

LOL what a video. :D

Potoklosis

7th March 2012, 20:44

And without a drop of sweat

bluuford

7th March 2012, 20:58

One morepicture: http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/64122_3444606599702_1406751981_3329518_71776625_n. jpg

uranium

7th March 2012, 21:35

you can add 16:08 for Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Bulgaria and Romania as well :-)
and 14:08 Portugal.

)

+Ukraine :)

pdr

7th March 2012, 21:36

Hirvonen walked to Mexico :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yFNtba_qfh0

Sawing on the wheel of a Dodge !! LOL

tfp

7th March 2012, 23:43

Hirvonen walked to Mexico :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yFNtba_qfh0

You wouldnt see Loeb in a video like that :D

N.O.T

7th March 2012, 23:46

You wouldnt see Loeb in a video like that :D

you would...

Citroen are marketing their new boy... wise move.

janvanvurpa

8th March 2012, 00:49

You wouldnt see Loeb in a video like that :D

Yeah, life is rough for second drivers.
Thank gawd the boy ate his gröt when he was a weeee poiki and got a normal share of Sisu.

I heard of a Finnish rock group who did similar to take their lead guitarist to America after he stayed outside all night practicing and froze solid...
Famous group, with Lappi shoes and slightly unconventional haircuts but I foget the name..
There was a documentary about their journey "something-something grad Cowbodys Go America." Aki Kaurismäki made the documentary..

mikkov

8th March 2012, 00:58

I heard of a Finnish rock group who did similar to take their lead guitarist to America after he stayed outside all night practicing and froze solid...
Famous group, with Lappi shoes and slightly unconventional haircuts but I foget the name..
There was a documentary about their journey "something-something grad Cowbodys Go America." Aki Kaurismäki made the documentary..

Movie is called Leningrad Cowboys go America. I'm sure that you're joking, but for anybody else: it's not a document, it's fiction. The band, however, is real band. Though I'm not sure if it did exist before the movie or not.

Micke_VOC

8th March 2012, 08:22

Time-schedule for us in Europe. ( GMT +1)

Friday:
03:09 - SS1 DC Shoes Guanajuato Street Stage.

Friday:
15:08 - SS2 El Cubilete 1.
16:06 - SS3 Las Minas 1.
16:47 - SS4 Los Mexicanos 1.
17:08 - SS5 Ortega 1.
20:36 - SS6 El Cubilete 2.
21:34 - SS7 Las Minas 2.
22:15 - SS8 Los Mexicanos 2.
22:36 - SS9 Ortega 2.
00:24 - SS10 Monster León Street Stage 1.
03:13 - SS11 Super Special 1.
03:18 - SS12 Super Special 2.

Saturday:
13:54 - SS13 Ibarrilla 1.
14:12 - SS14 Otates 1.
18:06 - SS15 Ibarrilla 2.
19:24 - SS16 Otates 2.
22:30 - SS17 Comanjilla 1.
23:45 - SS18 Super Special 3.
23:50 - SS19 Super Special 4.
00:23 - SS20 Comanjilla 2.

Sunday:
16:30 - SS21 Super Special 5.
17:33 - SS22 Guanajuatito.
19:06 - SS23 Derramadero.
20:18 - SS24 VW Power Stage.

pete c

8th March 2012, 09:46

Hi guys, anyone got a link to live timing for shakedown?

thanks
pete

Hartusvuori

8th March 2012, 10:27

And without a drop of sweat

...in his "Piä tunkkis!" hoodie :-) (meaning "keep your jack!" = I wouldn't have need your help anyway)

6789

8th March 2012, 10:30

Hi guys, anyone got a link to live timing for shakedown?

thanks
pete

If theres no live timing the next best thing to is watch this forum and the teams twitter accounts

A FONDO

8th March 2012, 10:38

Escudería Telmex (http://www.escuderiatelmex.com.mx/)

this site should broadcast the SS1

uranium

8th March 2012, 11:12

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yFNtba_qfh0

Cool!

Sulland

8th March 2012, 12:23

when is the Shakedow CET time ?

dimviii

8th March 2012, 12:44

to all Finn mates
http://i45.servimg.com/u/f45/12/15/26/89/69577111.jpg

dimviii

8th March 2012, 12:47

This is only for NOT
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/430122_272388542837660_122684831141366_623633_9902 23558_n.jpg

dimviii

8th March 2012, 12:54

http://i45.servimg.com/u/f45/12/15/26/89/69577211.jpghttp://i45.servimg.com/u/f45/12/15/26/89/41700510.jpghttp://i45.servimg.com/u/f45/12/15/26/89/42392310.jpg

Iskald

8th March 2012, 13:22

This is only for NOT
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/430122_272388542837660_122684831141366_623633_9902 23558_n.jpg

Its so unbelievably uncool for a 44 year old to act like he is still in highschool...

A FONDO

8th March 2012, 13:32

Its so unbelievably uncool for a 44 year old to act like he is still in highschool...
He acts like this because that's his main target group.

Viking

8th March 2012, 13:37

when is the Shakedow CET time ?

If I got it right shakedown/ free practice starts in 30 min. 1500CET, qualifying stage 1800CET

Sulland

8th March 2012, 13:49

Its so unbelievably uncool for a 44 year old to act like he is still in highschool...

And it is the right day today to discuss this. But the main agegroup buying the Monster drink, are around Highschool age, and like nice girls in bikini!

Viking

8th March 2012, 13:58

Its so unbelievably uncool for a 44 year old to act like he is still in highschool...

you are absolutely right...I would have dropped the cap... ;)

dimviii

8th March 2012, 14:02

And it is the right day today to discuss this. But the main agegroup buying the Monster drink, are around Highschool age, and like nice girls in bikini!

I don t drink Monster,but like nice girls in bikinis.Where is NOT when you need him?

Viking

8th March 2012, 14:55

1st run SD

http://p.twimg.com/AnePnlCCIAAZEp9.jpg:large

Sulland

8th March 2012, 15:30

Where did you find that list ?

euskalteam

8th March 2012, 15:34

Twitter I gues...

mousti

8th March 2012, 15:35

Twitter ;)

euskalteam

8th March 2012, 15:42

Whose twitter is?

Viking

8th March 2012, 15:49

Twitter I gues...

:up:

Barreis

8th March 2012, 15:50

Block is happy guy.

Viking

8th March 2012, 15:51

Whose twitter is?

http://twitter.com/#!/skunnercampbell/status/177768620418539520/photo/1

dimviii

8th March 2012, 16:13

shakedown 2

Loeb : 2:50.8
Latvala : 2:51.6
Solberg : 2:51.8
Latvala : 2:52.5
Neuville : 2:55.4
Atkinson : 2:55.7

dimviii

8th March 2012, 16:23

2nd pass more crews

Car
No Driver
1 Sébastien LOEB - 2:50.8
3 Jari-Matti LATVALA - 2:51.6
4 Petter SOLBERG - 2:51.8
2 Mikko HIRVONEN - 2:52.5
10 Mads ØSTBERG - 2:53.8
8 Thierry NEUVILLE - 2:55.4
21 Chris ATKINSON - 2:55.7
5 Ott TÄNAK - 2:55.9
6 Evgeny NOVIKOV - 2:56.4
43 Ken BLOCK - 2:56.6
7 Nasser AL-ATTIYAH - 2:58.2
15 Sébastien OGIER - 3:00.6
12 Armindo ARAÚJO 3:07.5
14 Paulo NOBRE - 3:21.3

Negaiss

8th March 2012, 16:25

shakedown 2

Loeb : 2:50.8
Latvala : 2:51.6
Solberg : 2:51.8
Latvala : 2:52.5
Neuville : 2:55.4
Atkinson : 2:55.7

So Latvala has split himself in two to have a greater chance to win.

Viking

8th March 2012, 16:27

janvanvurpa

8th March 2012, 16:27

Its so unbelievably uncool for a 44 year old to act like he is still in highschool...

And that you have exactly where 100% of Block's marketing has been aimed at: the stupid American junior high and high school punk who will never get laid so he idealizes and fanticizes about some schmuck who poses a bunch of hired "props' and POSES.

But there are some cuties there.

mousti

8th March 2012, 16:58

Andrew Coley is going to do the broadcast of WRR this weekend!

Negaiss

8th March 2012, 16:59

Qualification Live Audio - World rally radio World Rally Radio (http://www.worldrallyradio.com/World_Rally_Radio/World_Rally_Radio.html)

pdr

8th March 2012, 17:10

darkstar

8th March 2012, 17:15

atkinson´s times look promising. and block is also not bad i must say! but as we all know shakedown doesnt mean a lot ;)

logic

8th March 2012, 17:15

Will see if Hervionen will be told to slow down against lobe.

Viking

8th March 2012, 17:24

Good one Petter :)

Franky

8th March 2012, 17:24

Can't the radio reporter put the mic closer to the drivers ...

dimviii

8th March 2012, 17:52

P.Solberg (Fiesta WRC) 2’48’673
Hirvonen (DS3 WRC) 2’49’579
Loeb (DS3 WRC) 2’50’651
Latvala (Fiesta WRC) 2’51’044
Novikov (Fiesta WRC) 2’52’1
Ostberg (Fiesta WRC) 2’52’3

darkstar

8th March 2012, 17:57

impressive!

Jajá

8th March 2012, 17:59

I couldn't get all the proper times, but here goes the position pick order:

1) Solberg - 2'48.673
2) Hirvonen - 2'49.579
3) Loeb - 2'50.641
4) Latvala - 2'51.044
5) Novikov - 2'52.136
6) Ostberg - 2'52.330
7) Neuville - 2'52.516 (??)
8) Tanak - ????????
9) Al-Attiyah - ?????????
10) Atkinson - 2'54.104
11) Block - 2'57.???
12) Ogier - 2'58.970
13) Araujo - 3'01.185
14) Nobre (1st in the road again, yay ;) - ?????????

Fide

8th March 2012, 18:03

@Petter_ (http://twitter.com/Petter_)Solberg wins the qualifying stage, 1. P.Solberg 2min48''673, 2. Hirvonen 2min49''579, 3. Loeb 2min50''651, 4.Latvala 2min51''044”

dimviii

8th March 2012, 18:08

Qualifying Stage

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Car 1. LOEB/ELENA
“It was okay. No risks or mistakes. One or two (corners) - sliding too much. We will see what we can do tomorrow.”

Car 2. HIRVONEN/LEHTINEN
“One small mistake and that is so crucial. Let’s see how the others are coming now. He (Loeb) had a problem on the line and I knew I could take some time.”

Car 3. LATVALA/ANTTILA
“I don’t know. I thought I drove well. I don’t know what happened.”

Car 4. SOLBERG/PATTERSON
“Really trying hard in there.”

Car 5. TĂNAK/SIKK
“In the beginning it was a bit too much sideways.”

Car 6. NOVIKOV/GIRAUDET
“I think we did quite a good run.”

Car 7. AL-ATTIYAH/BERNACCHINI
“Actually we had a good run. The good thing is to get a good feeling at the high speed. We will see on the rally.”

Car 8. NEUVILLE/GILSOUL
“Not so bad. I did not take many risks. I had a clean run. It was quite nice. We can be happy.”

Car 10. ǾSTBERG/ANDERSSON
“Having no testing, it is making it very difficult (to set a very fast time).”

Car 12. ARAÚJO/RAMALHO
“We are having a lot of problems. Problems with the turbo and the throttle on the first run on the shakedown (no second run). It is the real life.” NO SERVICE PERMITTED BEFORE CEREMONIAL START AND STAGE ONE ON THURSDAY NIGHT.

Car 14. NOBRE/PAULA
“I did what I could without doing any damage. If you make a problem here, you don’t make the rally!”

Car 15. OGIER/INGRASSIA
“I tried to do my best, but it is difficult with the power. First gear is not enough power.”

Car 21. ATKINSON/ PRĖVOT
“We will get the hang of it over the weekend. We are learning all the time.”

Car 43. BLOCK/ GELSOMINO
“Okay, It was a good run. There was a jump in there. We hit a rock pretty hard on the outside.” Slight body damage in front of the right, rear wheel.

dimviii

8th March 2012, 18:08

#KenBlock hit a rock and has slight damage to front of right rear wheel #MonsterWRT

dimviii

8th March 2012, 18:14

times

Shakedown Times - Flash - Rally Guanajuato Mexico 2012 (http://www.rallymexico.com/news/comment/shakedown-times)

dimviii

8th March 2012, 18:28

http://i45.servimg.com/u/f45/12/15/26/89/42170310.jpg

Gherid_lacksGPS

8th March 2012, 19:07

And that you have exactly where 100% of Block's marketing has been aimed at: the stupid American junior high and high school punk who will never get laid so he idealizes and fanticizes about some schmuck who poses a bunch of hired "props' and POSES.

But there are some cuties there.
Having lived and travelled in many area's of the world....your full of ****. ALL high schoolers are douchbags, no matter the longitude and latitude, lol. There is a reason the term "euro trash" exists, remember? And they do get laid, that's the problem. The intelligent people are smart with things - make sure your child isn't born into a crack house, you have a stable job, etc. It's the retards who are freely breading, but that's the way it is everywhere.

AND they're turning Atko into another 'hoon'. Yuck.
They got atko back into the wrc, with a competitive machince.....

Seriously, what the ****, people?

<digression/>

tolis

8th March 2012, 19:27

Start-positions for tomorrow: Petter 14, Latvala 11, Loeb 12 and Hirvonen 13

jonkka

8th March 2012, 19:28

I'm not weird, I'm limited edition.

What's the difference?

6789

8th March 2012, 19:36

That's interesting, I though Loeb might have swapped with Mikko. Should matter too much that far down the road order but

tolis

8th March 2012, 20:05

Araujo first on the road!!!

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/427717_346681005374958_106632069379854_1024830_259 801115_n.jpg

bluuford

8th March 2012, 20:10

Araujo did not want to risk catching Nobres dust :-)

Official times for qualifying stage:http://www.rallymexico.com/files/rep/5.2_Qualifying_classification.pdf

rallye-sport

8th March 2012, 20:15

Shakedown Update Photos Rallye du Mexique 2012 (http://www.rallye-sport.fr/photos-rallye-du-mexique-2012/)

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/mexique-2012/img_2422.jpg

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/mexique-2012/dsc_0212.jpg

Marre

8th March 2012, 20:34

any livestream from the first stage?

6789

8th March 2012, 20:39

Escudería Telmex (http://www.escuderiatelmex.com.mx/)

this site should broadcast the SS1

This might work

janvanvurpa

8th March 2012, 20:49

Having lived and travelled in many area's of the world....your full of ****. ALL high schoolers are douchbags, no matter the longitude and latitude, lol. There is a reason the term "euro trash" exists, remember? And they do get laid, that's the problem. The intelligent people are smart with things - make sure your child isn't born into a crack house, you have a stable job, etc. It's the retards who are freely breading, but that's the way it is everywhere.

They got atko back into the wrc, with a competitive machince.....

Seriously, what the ****, people?

<digression/>

I'm sorry Blockie-fan-boi..
Just looked and it seems you're an Expert on Rally in USA. You must have competed for a number of years.
Sorry, if I ruffled your feathers...

Marre

8th March 2012, 20:50

This might work
does it start automaticly or is there a special place on the page you have to go to?

pdr

8th March 2012, 20:55

Gherid_lacksGPS

I just don't like the way they're marketing either driver. They're professional drivers, not rock stars.
I'd prefer some humility.

RAS007

8th March 2012, 20:57

pdr

8th March 2012, 21:03

Ken Block is not a rally driver.

Thank you.

cali

8th March 2012, 21:18

Ken Block is not a rally driver.

He is driving a rally car or am I mistaken?

Marre

8th March 2012, 21:20

Thank you.

if you have the money and sponsors to be in the wrc, why not... everyone cant be the best.

A.F.F.

8th March 2012, 21:23

http://i45.servimg.com/u/f45/12/15/26/89/42170310.jpg

"So, who brought the dice? "

Coach 2

8th March 2012, 21:52

if you have the money and sponsors to be in the wrc, why not... everyone cant be the best.

I can not imagine anything other than that Block actually do rally known for many who normally would not have followed the sport.

This must be positive for all drivers who actually beats him in most rallies.
They are actually now known in an environment that would normally be closed to them.

Loeb, Hirvonen etc etc should actually thank him for this.

Fri

8th March 2012, 22:12

pictures from the shakedown:
rallysport.hu - Rally Sweden 2012 - péntek (http://www.rallysport.hu/images/2012/photo/wrc/03_mexico/01_fri_sd/index.htm)

Micke_VOC

8th March 2012, 22:13

Anyone seen the Shakedown-times for PWRC ?

jonas_mcrae

8th March 2012, 22:16

Hello guys sorry for not posting earlier, had been at the qualifying stage all morning. Petter was really aggresive and sideways no wonder he finnished first, citroens were ok, and Nasser very aggresive and came close to hitting a lightpole,Minis very slow, and tanak fast but all over the place. At the service everything ok, autographs all around and Mr. Block although not being one of my favorites is the big attraction... also saw Trivino in the fiesta and didnt look so slow hopefully he can beat some of the low runners. About Name and the Mini they are no way in sight and are not in the start list for tomorrow dont know what happened but will try to find out. Also im glad to inform that got to look around the Rally America (local rally, not part of the US Championship) section and there are around 15 cars, so you can add them to the 27 official entries for a total of 42. Mr caswellis back in the bwm, there are a few evo's 9 an old subaru, a focus, an old golf and a VERY old volkswagen bettle, good promotion for VW's reliability and the upcoming season? Who knows...

Ps. Got to look around Ramona Karlsson's service area and Im glad to inform you that she and her co driver Ms walfridsson are enjoying the sunny weather by wearing hotpants will post a pic soon!

Gherid_lacksGPS

8th March 2012, 22:20

I'm sorry Blockie-fan-boi..
Just looked and it seems you're an Expert on Rally in USA. You must have competed for a number of years.
Sorry, if I ruffled your feathers...
I'm most definitely not an expert on us rally, let alone rally in gerneral - though, feel free to get me jived up about architecture and environmental design. I still stand by what I say. However, I believe my comment about block was something like he isn't competitive at high level, and even more, there are supoerior US drivers who simply don't have the resources to compete. Though, I acknowledge his love for the sport and the, SELF EARNED, millions he has put into it, especially in the US where the market is very small, but has huge potential. How exactly is that being a fan boi? Honestly, is that what you think? Come one man....don't let your objectivity be shunned by the cool kid bandwagon.

@pdr - I agree, the rock star thing gets kinda old. Though, really, it brings attention to the sport, especially in lesser known markets. It's all bout the money, and he brings it, and shares it. And he's very humble, actually. It's to put on a show and get people interested - like fighters who talk **** before a fight, go through the rounds,then are hugging and kissing each other after words because of the respect they have for one another. He and Alex are great guys, too. And really, the livery is pretty bad ass. :p :

IMO, block would be better fit as an owner/funding entity to up and coming drivers, than a driver himself - which i blieve will be a role he'll be filling.

If people don't want money, and attention brought to the sport, then how is it going to grow? Especially in this generation and untapped markets?

/rant

Press on to rally Mexico. Lets go Petter!!! And thanks for the updates/photo's to all those who provide them.

COD

8th March 2012, 22:26

Ps. Got to look around Ramona Karlsson's service area and Im glad to inform you that she and her co driver Ms walfridsson are enjoying the sunny weather by wearing hotpants will post a pic soon!

Finally something to look forward to in this rally

jonas_mcrae

8th March 2012, 22:26

Trivino. 3:11.1

Fuchs 3:10.2
Guerra 3:11.2
Kosciuszko 3:12.4
Erdi 3:18.2
Karlsson 3:19.9
Linari 3:23.6

Guess i was wrong about trivino... he IS slow, well faster than Nobre! Lol

tolis

8th March 2012, 22:26

Anyone seen the Shakedown-times for PWRC ?
B. Guerra finished 2nd, 1 sec behind the leader, either Fuchs or Kosciuszko I think. ;)

bluuford

8th March 2012, 22:42

Ogier is going to have 3 minutes gap (with a possible extension to 4 minutes) between him and Nobre:
http://www.rallymexico.com/files/rep/3.3_COC_Decision_1.pdf

N.O.T

8th March 2012, 22:48

Nobre is a disgrace of the sport....

logic

8th March 2012, 23:11

Nobre is a disgrace of the sport....

says the spectator

N.O.T

8th March 2012, 23:12

no...says the reason the WRC exists....

Jafry

8th March 2012, 23:15

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/985/985_rally_guanajuato_mexico_2012_c17f639d9f.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=985&fseason=2012#http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/985/985_rally_guanajuato_mexico_2012_9b1bcc2127.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/985/985_rally_guanajuato_mexico_2012_d29324f472.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/985/985_rally_guanajuato_mexico_2012_f56863a401.jpg

More photos from shake HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=985&fseason=2012)

Martin Luijk

8th March 2012, 23:22

says the spectator

If Ogier can't drive flat out because he's driving in Nobres dust, than NOT is right.

Mirek

8th March 2012, 23:32

Nobre is a disgrace of the sport....

Still the same s.h.i.t. again and again for million times. Every single person in the world already knows that Mr. N.O.T finds those like Nobre a disgrace of the sport but he still must repeat it again and again so that none of those nearly seven billions could forget about this.

If Ogier can't drive flat out because he's driving in Nobres dust, than NOT is right.

Ogiers starting position is a result of his shakedown performance so there is no need to blame others for that. Anyway most likely it won't be such a big problem like on other events. In Mexican conditions the naturally aspirated engines are really weak so he will have bigger handicap than usually.