WRC Rally Argentina 2012

[jbmarcus21]

#WRC Maxi Rally Argentina 2012 with SS 66kms, 52kms & 43kms ! Total 502.95kms !!!! Program Itinerary Programme du Rallye Wrc d'Argentine 2012 (http://t.co/aF6TZXc6)

[N.O.T]

!!!! PERFECT ROUTE !!!!

66 kms !!!!!!

[MikeD]

!!!! PERFECT ROUTE !!!!

66 kms !!!!!!

Route 66 or no. of the beast's younger brother?

[jbmarcus21]

‎#WRC Google Earth Map Philips Rally Argentina 2012 is now out Programme du Rallye Wrc d'Argentine 2012 (http://bit.ly/uHtj3C)

[Barreis]

We should make pool: on what stage will JML go off.

[N.O.T]

We should make pool: on what stage will JML go off.

LOLZORZ !!!

you are a naughty person Barreis... :D

[Viking]

Entry list...so far..
http://www.rallyargentina.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Entry-List-RA-2012-web.pdf

No FastGo cars.
Ketomaa, Prokop and Salazar + the usual suspects. Mikkelsen back in VW Fabia.

[ZequeArgentina]

Consider that all the ones listed 48 to 62 will not take part of the whole rally, just part and out of official classification.
Even not part of national or regional championship.........

[Mise]

Entry list...so far..
http://www.rallyargentina.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Entry-List-RA-2012-web.pdf

No FastGo cars.
Ketomaa, Prokop and Salazar + the usual suspects. Mikkelsen back in VW Fabia.

Mikkelsen with his brand new Fabia S2001 :D

http://planetemarcus.free.fr/entrylistargentina12.pdf

[Andre Oliveira]

Michelle Mouton about big stages of Argentina: "...We want to give everyone the feeling that, come the end of these sections is something special..."

[A FONDO]

I was hoping she will say something about the superrally.

[SubaruNorway]

Østberg says they will use 20% of the budget this year on Argentina alone so it's not all good with long rallies.

[Gard]

It's not only about the length of the stages... Also moving the whole team to another continent costs a lot of money... But that makes it a World Championship...

A World Championship is made of the nationality of the involved drivers, not where it's held.

[rallyfiend]

A World Championship is made of the nationality of the involved drivers, not where it's held.

The statutes of the FIA under which world motorsport is run very heavily disagree with you on this one!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Jml out - broke collar bone skiing !!

[tolis]

Source?

[MartijnS]

https://twitter.com/#!/voiceofrally/status/190783405615620096

[EuroTroll]

Wow... :eek: :(

[bassist]

Oh dear, I bet this has gone down well at Ford! That`s it for him and the Blue Oval then?

[Gregor-y]

Did anyone bet on Latvala crashing out before shakedown? It's funny but it's sad, as well.
On the other hand he's in good company with Sainz and Loeb, assuming skis are the equivalent of bikes in Finland.

[dimviii]

Salazar testing Mini in Portugal,for rally Argentina
Eliseo Salazar - Adelanto Test Mini WRC en Portugal 2012 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pRHkyExtv6U)

[Barreis]

Prodrive reckons Argentina will be tough World Rally debut for Eliseo Salazar - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/98934)

[dimviii]

Salazar testing Mini in Portugal,for rally Argentina
Eliseo Salazar - Adelanto Test Mini WRC en Portugal 2012 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pRHkyExtv6U)

By the way do you remember who is Salazar?
GP Germania, Hockenheim 1982 Incidente tra Piquet e Salzar - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXmnLHoKLi4&feature=player_embedded)

[Kielder]

No Power Stage live TV again. Without it, this idea is dead.

[rallyfiend]

No Power Stage live TV again. Without it, this idea is dead.

No-one to pay for it with NOS gone.

[tfp]

No Power Stage live TV again. Without it, this idea is dead.

:up:


No-one to pay for it with NOS gone.

The best idea they ever had he whole time they were in charge and now there is no one to tae advantage of it, shame.

I hope the powerstage carrys on, and if another company takes charge then they can televise it live again.

[skarderud]

When do FIA get theire thumbs out of theire ass and get a new deal on broadcast? Or do they just don't give a ****?

[rallyfiend]

When do FIA get theire thumbs out of theire ass and get a new deal on broadcast? Or do they just don't give a ****?

Getting deals for broadcasters is one thing, getting the amount of money that was once there to pay for luxuries such as Live television I'm sure is a completely different thing.

I guess it's like the IRC - some of the Organisers can afford to pay for Live TV, some can't.

[EuroTroll]

The final entry list seems to be online:

Entries | Rally Argentina (http://www.rallyargentina.com/en/competitors/entries)

[Rallyper]

Getting deals for broadcasters is one thing, getting the amount of money that was once there to pay for luxuries such as Live television I'm sure is a completely different thing.

I guess it's like the IRC - some of the Organisers can afford to pay for Live TV, some can't.

Disagree. The deal should of course contain live broadcasting in it from the beginning. Money raised should be in agreement from the beginning if so FIA had to pay themselves.
Organizer shouldn´t have the responsibility to put money for that.

[Kielder]

Mixed weather is expected for the rally. Maybe there would be again different strategies for the running order.
Sebastien Loeb: Rally Argentina running order choice will be tricky - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/98979)

[Kielder]

In an interview at wrc.com, Latvala says that "Petter will be fighting for the victory" and Sordo "has all the possibilities to be on the podium".
The comparison between both driver's pace will be very interesting. Sordo's future in the team might depend (at least on a percentage) of it. He has offered himself to the team: "Of course I would like to continue with them next year". Who won't after this year's nightmare with Prodrive.

[dimviii]

DSC_1390 | Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/citroenargentina/7099437979/in/photostream/lightbox/) :p

RALLY ARGENTINA 2012 ROAD SHOW CITROEN Thierry Neuville - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N14GX19abTU&feature=player_embedded)

[dimviii]

wtf?
Road Show Mini WRC - Eliseo Salazar - Santiago/Chile - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsUdxGPGQVA&feature=player_embedded)

[6789]

wtf?
Road Show Mini WRC - Eliseo Salazar - Santiago/Chile - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsUdxGPGQVA&feature=player_embedded)

There's the rally winner right there.. That water looks pretty dirty, best to keep out of those kind of places.

Here's Mikko at the road show - Citroen Road Show + Mikko Hirvonen . Johannes Lehtinen Buenos Aires 2012 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLv4b1VMTSA)

[N.O.T]

wtf?
Road Show Mini WRC - Eliseo Salazar - Santiago/Chile - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsUdxGPGQVA&feature=player_embedded)

Stupidity at its core... F1 lady boy skills + redneck latino culture and you have the above result...

[Viking]

There's the rally winner right there..

:D

[Juha_Koo]

LOL, nice show skills... :D

[Hartusvuori]

wtf?
Road Show Mini WRC - Eliseo Salazar - Santiago/Chile - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsUdxGPGQVA&feature=player_embedded)

Impresionante! :p

[Kielder]

After this, Salazar's CV will never be reached.
Poor Marc Martí, Del Barrio was luck!

[Plan9]

wtf?
Road Show Mini WRC - Eliseo Salazar - Santiago/Chile - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsUdxGPGQVA&feature=player_embedded)

I almost expected to see Borat was his clothes by the water in the video lol ;)

[pantealex]

wtf?
Road Show Mini WRC - Eliseo Salazar - Santiago/Chile - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsUdxGPGQVA&feature=player_embedded)
I want Kimi back!

[Jafry]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/img_news/big/12889_auto_pro_martina_prokopa_fdc5bd5928.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/img_news/big/12889_latvalova_fiesta_se_kterou_pojede_sordo_f334 0085c9.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/img_news/big/12889_seznamovaci_jizdy_v_argentine_jsou_v_plnem_p roudu_foto_608501461b.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/img_news/big/12889_vw_zatim_nema_obuto_64da4836ea.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/img_news/big/12889_juniori_z_vychodu_debatuji_06e8abb340.jpg

Some photo from 1st day of recce HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/news.php?id=12889)

[dyfi1]

Mixed weather is expected for the rally. Maybe there would be again different strategies for the running order.
Sebastien Loeb: Rally Argentina running order choice will be tricky - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/98979)


Expect snow on El Condor and La Cumbre stages. Let`s see who`s nominated softs!



Source, Colin Clark via Twitter @voice of rally.

[dimviii]

World Rally Championship - Rally Argentina Preview - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H2TZwZ6QTk&feature=player_embedded#!)

[rallyfiend]

World Rally Championship - Rally Argentina Preview - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H2TZwZ6QTk&feature=player_embedded#!)

You realise that is from last year?

[N.O.T]

You realise that is from last year?

you realise the word preview in the title ???

[Jajá]

El Condor with snow is way too cool (in all ways)!!!

[N.O.T]

snow on the road is different from snow just in the ditches.

[dimviii]

You realise that is from last year?

not

[N.O.T]

not


he is right it is the preview for the 2011 rally not this years...

[dimviii]

he is right it is the preview for the 2011 rally not this years...
i answered him that i did NOT realised it is from last year.

[N.O.T]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaah...ok

[Barreis]

World Rally Championship - News - Meeke backs Salazar for Argentina top 10 (http://www.wrc.com/news/meeke-backs-salazar-for-argentina-top-10/?fid=16542)

[rallye-vid]

bottom 10 :vader:

[dimviii]

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/535592_3773641745375_1406751981_3478617_383183083_ n.jpghttp://p.twimg.com/ArRPwMiCAAAuEuB.jpghttp://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/533067_3773462740900_1406751981_3478550_454448558_ n.jpg

[tolis]

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/535592_3773641745375_1406751981_3478617_383183083_ n.jpg

I tasted Ford's food last year!!! :D Not bad at all! Do you remember dimviii?
Nice to see snow!!!

[dimviii]

Do you remember dimviii?

the only i remember is Latvalas exit. :vader:

[Kielder]

First Sordo's car photo:
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/150986_299910573419768_100002024842047_691098_1532 817855_n.jpg

[Jafry]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/img_news/big/12895_v_argetine_se_vcera_trenoval_legendarni_test _el_condor_foto_d9e1c35013.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/img_news/big/12895_v_argetine_se_vcera_trenoval_legendarni_test _el_condor_foto_9c4422d05e.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/img_news/big/12895_v_argetine_se_vcera_trenoval_legendarni_test _el_condor_foto_30f0b661a3.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/img_news/big/12895_v_argetine_se_vcera_trenoval_legendarni_test _el_condor_foto_d57d0e68e3.jpg

More photos from 2nd day of recce HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/news.php?id=12895)

[Mirek]

Michelin tyres on Prokops DMack car...

[aykutbilir]

Michelin tyres on Prokops DMack car...

Probably stay from Portugal :)

[Kielder]

Expect snow on El Condor and La Cumbre stages. Let`s see who`s nominated softs!

Source, Colin Clark via Twitter @voice of rally.

It's expected only some snow, as it was last year in Wales. BTW, it would be very interesting this rally scheduled in winter (the same as Finland), at least once.

I can't wait for the start of the rally. The point will be if Sordo can keep his Portugal's pace. His future could depend on it. Portugal's exhibition has given him this opportunity, another one could give him a full program for the next year. His running order on the first day might be the key to a good result. The worst thing that could happen if he reaches the end of the rally would be yielding the position to his teammate, again. But let's go day by day.

[Mirek]

Probably stay from Portugal :)

Prokop will use DMack tyres during the event. I asked Zdeněk Hrůza today.

[dimviii]

Prokop will use DMack tyres during the event. I asked Zdeněk Hrůza today.

yes and as i see its enough ''open'' for mud
http://www.rally-mania.cz/img_news/big/12895_v_argetine_se_vcera_trenoval_legendarni_test _el_condor_foto_dcf6cf994d.jpg

[Barreis]

World Rally Championship - News - Solberg eyes title lead in Argentina (http://www.wrc.com/news/solberg-eyes-title-lead-in-argentina/?fid=16543)

[Kielder]

World Rally Championship - News - Solberg eyes title lead in Argentina (http://www.wrc.com/news/solberg-eyes-title-lead-in-argentina/?fid=16543)

Solberg will reach the lead of the Championship if Loeb continues having the same mistakes/problems of the end of the last season and the start of the present one. Something has happened to him in five of the last eight events (we can also count the Germany's puncture which gave Ogier the victory).

[dyfi1]

I can't wait for the start of the rally. The point will be if Sordo can keep his Portugal's pace. His future could depend on it. Portugal's exhibition has given him this opportunity, another one could give him a full program for the next year. His running order on the first day might be the key to a good result. The worst thing that could happen if he reaches the end of the rally would be yielding the position to his teammate, again. But let's go day by day.

I believe that there could well be team orders from MW given Petter Solbergs current championship standings. Of course, if Petter has some disasterous issue then Sordo will have free reign to `go for it`. He will no doubt respect Fords wishes if he thinks it will enhance his career prospects for 2013. Dani Fordo? :D

[dimviii]

Portugal to Argentina - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bNH9vYuHw0&feature=player_embedded)

[dimviii]

Ford confident development will pay off on Rally Argentina - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/99143)

[Kielder]

Portugal to Argentina - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bNH9vYuHw0&feature=player_embedded)

Too much spare time this year, no objectives for them. They're joking, but it's very sad.

[MikeD]

Prokop will use DMack tyres during the event. I asked Zdeněk Hrůza today.

Hi Mirek,

Do you know if Prokops own team is running this DMACK car or if it's M-Sport for this round?

[Kielder]

What is your problem with it? The sponsors want publicity... And if it's a stupid video on youtube that shows the Citroën logo to 10000 people, then it is... He's not skipping any events for it ;)

I haven't any problem with it, they seem happy, but...
Can you imagine Loeb doing this videos? Can you imagine Mikko doing them in the past?

[Mirek]

Hi Mirek,

Do you know if Prokops own team is running this DMACK car or if it's M-Sport for this round?

I think it's M-Sport. Sure not Jipocar car.

[rallyfiend]

Who normally runs the DMACK car on other events? Is it run from the M-Sport stable normally?

[mousti]

Ketomaa normally drives it.

[MikeD]

Who normally runs the DMACK car on other events? Is it run from the M-Sport stable normally?

Yes.

[A FONDO]

Its run by Autotek, not M-Sport

[Mirek]

True but here in Argentina I think it's M-Sport. Not sure though.

[Kielder]

In France, Loeb is a real marketing-product... He's in TV-commercials quite often as far as I know... So, yes :)

Loeb is in TV-commercials because he's won eight championships. Mikko started doing the videos he uploads to his Youtube's account because he won't win any championship.

[N.O.T]

Loeb is in TV-commercials because he's won eight championships. Mikko started doing the videos he uploads to his Youtube's account because he won't win any championship.

mikko will be around even after Loeb so do not be so sure about the last part...

[Kielder]

There are many drivers with Portugal's experience in their minds. Everybody is talking about Argentina as a endurance rally, thinking about a slow pace (Wilson has lost his opportunity...). Latest weather forecast suggests possible rain on Thursday and Friday, rain on Saturday and possible rain on Sunday. If there's as mud as in Portugal, let's wait that the organization won't need cancelling any stages.

[N.O.T]

There are many drivers with Portugal's experience in their minds. Everybody is talking about Argentina as a endurance rally, thinking about a slow pace (Wilson has lost his opportunity...). Latest weather forecast suggests possible rain on Thursday and Friday, rain on Saturday and possible rain on Sunday. If there's as mud as in Portugal, let's wait that the organization won't need cancelling any stages.

Rain is normal for Argentina... in portugal we had extreme rain and laso the roads are softer than Argentina. I think the rallies cannot compare... Lets hope the argentinian organisers do not mess things up once more.

[Kielder]

Rain is normal for Argentina... in portugal we had extreme rain and laso the roads are softer than Argentina. I think the rallies cannot compare... Lets hope the argentinian organisers do not mess things up once more.

You're right. More than that, in Algarve it hadn't rained for months. However, Mikko has said this after the recce: "We’ve just finished a massive three-day recce here in Argentina. The roads are really rough and so much softer than in previous years".
Another problem was the fog: "It’s also been more than tricky with all the fog – you can sometimes only see 10 metres in front of you and when it’s a new stage it’s very difficult to make pace notes". We all know what a bad note could mean for a driver...

Service Park's photos: Parque de Servicio / Service Park / 2012 | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.421266137885636.106687.198846126794306&type=3&l=47370b2257)

[A FONDO]

he's right about the fog

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/524714_279896465433694_224994057590602_602339_2572 66945_n.jpg

[Jafry]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/img_news/big/12899_nasledovala_provizorni_oprava_a_nor_dostal_n ovy_vuz_f7e3390f94.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/img_news/big/12899_o_divaky_neni_nouze_e02cae7555.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/img_news/big/12899_rozhovor_s_danim_6a837fa863.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/img_news/big/12899_sdelovani_dojmu_ii_2109f003bc.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/img_news/big/12899_za_volantem_fordi_cvicky_e8bb969a40.jpg

More photos from last day of recce HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/news.php?id=12899)

[6789]

Is WRR covering the qualifying stage today?

[rallyfiend]

Is WRR covering the qualifying stage today?

There's a website called wrc.com that has some informaton about the World Rally Championship....

World Rally Championship - Fanzone - WRC Live (http://www.wrc.com/fanzone/wrc-live/)

[Kielder]

"The other" WRR seems to be dead, with no schedule for the rally.

[nr7wave]

Any shakedown times yet?

[Hartusvuori]

Any shakedown times yet?

Don't know about SD, but qualification will start in two hours. 10:58 AM local time in Argentina. Practise runs started an hour ago.

EDIT: From Citroen Racing tweet:


FP1: 1 Solberg 2'39 - 2 Mikko 2'40.9 - 3 Nasser 2'42.1 - 4 Tanak 2'42.1 - 5 Sordo 2'42.6 - 6 Seb 2'42.7 - 7 Ostberg 2'45.3…

EDIT2: Same source:


FP2: 1 @MikkoWRC (https://twitter.com/#%21/MikkoWRC) 2'39.1 - 2 Nasser 2'39.1 - 3 @thierryneuville (https://twitter.com/#%21/thierryneuville) 2'40.0 - 4 Tanak 2'40.6 - 5 Sordo 2'41.7. No time 4 Seb, Solb & Ostb

[nr7wave]

Thanks!

[Hartusvuori]

Citroen Racing again:


FP2 : fastest time for Seb Loeb (2'38.9). Solberg didn't make his second run yet.

[OldF]

Loeb is in TV-commercials because he's won eight championships. Mikko started doing the videos he uploads to his Youtube's account because he won't win any championship.

I think these videos are made by Citroen. They can be found on Citroen racing’s web page.

Citroën WRC - The World Rally Championship live with Citroën Racing (http://www.citroen-wrc.com/en/)


From Sweden to Mexico
Sweden - Mexico - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yFNtba_qfh0)

From Mexico to Portugal
Mexico to Portugal - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PY9pgKY4r3g)

[Gherid_lacksGPS]

Thanks to all the peeps for updates and images.

I enjoy these rallies where my sleeping habits get to stay somewhat normal, heh.

[Fide]

Any shakedown times yet?
Quali will start in 30 mins local time

[Fide]

2937

Forecast says, light rain till Saturday (inclusive)..... As of now many places are muddy...

[pettersolberg29]

Are we expecting the winner of the QS to pick first on the road then I assume?

[Fide]

It will be a tricky desicion........ :) lets see. In other hand, the fog it will be a main actor there.... since i.e. SS2 (La Pampa - La Pampa) starts 7:28 am and I can bet will by a foggy SS

[pettersolberg29]

If so it will be quite ironic. . . the QS was meant to help the top drivers not be disadvantaged by starting first on the road, however in the last 2 rallies it seems first on the road is the place to be!

[OldF]

I was confused for a moment because looking at time zones, there’s a 4h difference between CET and Argentina local time but then I remembered the daylight saving time.

With daylight saving time.

10:58 local time
14:48 GMT +4 h
15:48 CET +5 h
16:58 Finnish time +6 h

[Fide]

I was confused for a moment because looking at time zones, there’s a 4h difference between CET and Argentina local time but then I remembered the daylight saving time.

With daylight saving time.

10:58 local time
14:48 GMT +4 h
15:48 CET +5 h
16:58 Finnish time +6 h

RIGHT NOW it is 10:55 in Argentina

[Fide]

1 minute to quali start

[Hartusvuori]

If so it will be quite ironic. . . the QS was meant to help the top drivers not be disadvantaged by starting first on the road, however in the last 2 rallies it seems first on the road is the place to be!

It is helping the top drivers not being disadvantaged. Now they have the freedom of choice and sometimes it's best to start first also on gravel. We'll see.

[Kielder]

WRC official radio is broadcasting live now. Becs at the studio & Colin from the stage, as always.
Music on WRR.

[Kielder]

Loeb has finished the QS. It's raining.

[Fide]

Loeb 2:36 mins
Hirvonen 2.37 mins
Solberg 2:39 mins

[Kielder]

Watching this morning times, no one will beat Loeb. Great!

[N.O.T]

Watching this morning times, no one will beat Loeb. Great!

lets cancel the rally then...

[MartijnS]

Dani faster than Petter?

[KKS]

It's from 1st passage or best of three?

[Kielder]

lets cancel the rally then...

I mean in the QS (he's improved his shakedown's time a lot)...
But as you know, we could cancel the Championship and give Loeb his 9th Championship ;) .

[Fide]

lets cancel the rally then...

Do you take breakfast with vinager ?????

[nr7wave]

Any more qs-times? I don't have the radio.

[pettersolberg29]

Petter 4th but used hard tyres. Everyone else on softs.

[Fide]

Any more qs-times? I don't have the radio.

1=Loeb
2=Hirvonen
3=Sordo

All of them with Soft Tyres choice

4=Solberg

"Petter Solberg opted to run on Michelin’s hard compound tyre, which provided less grip in the slippery conditions. “I wanted to take care of the [soft] tyres for the rally if it’s raining,” said the Norwegian, who was fourth quickest. “It was very slippery in there with a lot of mud and rain now. But it’s a long rally."

[Kielder]

Any more qs-times? I don't have the radio.



Loeb (DS3 WRC) 2’36’3[/*:m:38xangcs]
Hirvonen (DS3 WRC) 2’37’1[/*:m:38xangcs]
Sordo (Fiesta WRC) 2’38[/*:m:38xangcs]
P.Solberg (Fiesta WRC) 2’39’9[/*:m:38xangcs]
Neuville (DS3 WRC) 2’40’1[/*:m:38xangcs]
Ostberg (Fiesta WRC) 2’40’1[/*:m:38xangcs]
Tänak (Fiesta WRC) 2’40’7[/*:m:38xangcs]
Novikov (Fiesta WRC) 2’42’1[/*:m:38xangcs]
Al-Attiyah (DS3 WRC) 2’42’6[/*:m:38xangcs]
Prokop (Fiesta WRC) 2’43’3[/*:m:38xangcs]
Araujo (Mini WRC) 2’43’9[/*:m:38xangcs]
Oliveira (Fiesta WRC)[/*:m:38xangcs]
Nobre (Mini WRC) 2’58’7[/*:m:38xangcs]
Salazar (Mini WRC)[/*:m:38xangcs]

[rage82]

Any chance for live coverage for the night ss stage?

[nr7wave]

Thanks guys!
Using the hard tyres could be a smart move from Petter.

[JTGANG]

Sordo immediately sets a top time.....Hope some time we see him in a full program with a factory team....

[rallyfiend]

Any chance for live coverage for the night ss stage?

It's being done live on Fox Sports.

anyone know where to get a *cough* feed of it?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/567771438.jpg?key=800525&Expires=1335457429&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIYVGSUJFNRFZBBTA&Signature=fQEQ0KAa~EMsTlwMngkpHlKQb8lFuo8GzjxSka28 XoGcnIBl1slwyUXdARjv-PZ8dVpv7TBrB6NPYMvrJYUSxxdIs41C6~YZfGmOKYjeSBRF5A5 1xR69bdC-NENgrK9RZXP5umyv~dkJzOdp6ZHRLyH5uLODFGA1tDkQUthpgJ E_

Rally Argentina: pictures from qualifying stage | Best of Rally Live (http://www.best-of-rallylive.com/en/2012/04/26/rally-argentina-pictures-from-qualifying-stage/#)


Link for live stage: http://www.fulltv.com.ar/ficha.php?idc=13&idp=409084

[pettersolberg29]

Loeb first on the road, then Mikko, Petter and Sordo

[rage82]

Thanks for the link!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Enjoy Citroen Rally Show Buenos Aires while you're waiting ...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BxQ3T-ILzI

[A FONDO]

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2012/argentina/startporadi.jpg

[dimviii]

CARLOS NUÑEZ EN SHAKEDOWN RALLY ARGENTINA 2012 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=F52aTIICsjI)

watch Neuvilles pass at the end how close call was with a spectator.

[Gherid_lacksGPS]

CARLOS NUÑEZ EN SHAKEDOWN RALLY ARGENTINA 2012 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=F52aTIICsjI)

watch Neuvilles pass at the end how close call was with a spectator.
Hah, that would have been one bum knee.

[rage82]

http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/567771438.jpg?key=800525&Expires=1335457429&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIYVGSUJFNRFZBBTA&Signature=fQEQ0KAa~EMsTlwMngkpHlKQb8lFuo8GzjxSka28 XoGcnIBl1slwyUXdARjv-PZ8dVpv7TBrB6NPYMvrJYUSxxdIs41C6~YZfGmOKYjeSBRF5A5 1xR69bdC-NENgrK9RZXP5umyv~dkJzOdp6ZHRLyH5uLODFGA1tDkQUthpgJ E_

Rally Argentina: pictures from qualifying stage | Best of Rally Live (http://www.best-of-rallylive.com/en/2012/04/26/rally-argentina-pictures-from-qualifying-stage/#)


Link for live stage: WRC. Rally de Argentina (Vivo) - FOX Sports (http://www.fulltv.com.ar/ficha.php?idc=13&idp=409084)
This link doesn't work for me, but I found this one:fox sports live online stream | fox sports live tv online free (http://www.onlinetvjunction.com/view/4036/fox-sports-live-online-stream-fox-sports-live-tv-online-free.html)
and it's working quite good for the moment!

[N.O.T]

planetmarcus has the times for Europe... another great addition...those times are CET so add 1 hour if you live in Greece/Finland and the other viking places and subtract 1hour for the UK and portugal..

Programme du Rallye Wrc d'Argentine 2012 (http://planetemarcus.free.fr/argentine12.htm)

[A FONDO]

This link doesn't work for me, but I found this one:fox sports live online stream | fox sports live tv online free (http://www.onlinetvjunction.com/view/4036/fox-sports-live-online-stream-fox-sports-live-tv-online-free.html)
and it's working quite good for the moment!

at least they are showing the match. what a magnificent goal for Bilbao

[jbmarcus21]

planetmarcus has the times for Europe... another great addition...those times are CET so add 1 hour if you live in Greece/Finland and the other viking places and subtract 1hour for the UK and portugal..

Programme du Rallye Wrc d'Argentine 2012 (http://planetemarcus.free.fr/argentine12.htm)

thanks.. yes last year ... just one column hours was not clear.. this year is better.. and next year will be better, with new website :)

[tolis]

Villagra is back!

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/524285_438311592849033_1032612336_n.jpg

[Luis Pacheco]

TELEVISION ARGENTINA EN VIVO - FOX SPORTS (http://www.visionlarioja.es.tl/Fox-Sports.htm)

This stream is working well.

[Gherid_lacksGPS]

To help peeps not miss a stage and / or manage their sleeping schedule, heh.

Time Zone Converter (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html)

Tanks for the stream links.

[Kielder]

This is the only one that works well for me: MERIDIEM 90: ESPN DEPORTES (http://meridiem90.blogspot.com.es/2011/05/espn-deportes.html)

[Kielder]

We've to wait only 18' until the start of the stage, but 1h18' until the top drivers start, at the same time as live TV.

[Plan9]

TELEVISION ARGENTINA EN VIVO - FOX SPORTS (http://www.visionlarioja.es.tl/Fox-Sports.htm)

This stream is working well.

Let's hope it stays that way and Christina does not nationalize it too ;)

[Kielder]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-uRqRKtpeM&feature=g-all-u


Some good photos (amazing Skodas): WRC ARGENTINA DIA 1 CABALANGO | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=140807796050636&set=a.140807286050687.29675.100003642489427&type=3&l=206c88809c&theater)

Complete start list for SS1: World Rally Championship - Results - Philips Rally Argentina (http://www.wrc.com/results/2012/philips-rally-argentina/start-lists/?startlist=2)

[rage82]

The rally is now live on Internet

[6789]

The stream is covering the rally now FYI

Sorry - already posted :)

[Kielder]

Good quality of the streaming and perfect conditions of the stage. Great jump!

[N.O.T]

Ogier the boss...

[6789]

Will be an interesting battle. Ogier is definitely the benchmark

[N.O.T]

Oliveira crashed... pftt

[N.O.T]

Neuville 3 sconds faster so far but he also got slowed down by Oliveira...

[N.O.T]

Oliveira broken wheel....

[focus206]

Damn, I was a bit too late... so one is already out...

[6789]

Is this stage running late? Seems to be taking a while

[rage82]

No, the stage started as in itinerary

[Kielder]

The whole Europe hates Oliveira now... I'd thought we're safe with Nobre and Salazar starting after Loeb & Petter.

[MR666]

Any one got a feed in english?

[Gherid_lacksGPS]

WRC Radio + live stage stream = win.

[MR666]

WRC Radio + live stage stream = win.

Yip got that, but not so good for the interviews lol

[focus206]

A mistake for Nasser...

[Gherid_lacksGPS]

Yip got that, but not so good for the interviews lol
lol, true tru. though my comment wasn't pointed towards you. just a contextual coincidence, haha. timing for the win.

[Kielder]

Yip got that, but not so good for the interviews lol

Sordo has said what you can imagine, that he's a little nervous and that he didn't test the car as much as he wanted. He's criticized the lenght of the stages also.

[N.O.T]

Loeb 10 seconds slower than Solberg !!!

[Gherid_lacksGPS]

whoa....solberg stomping it.

[GigiGalliNo1]

fox sports live online stream | fox sports live tv online free (http://www.onlinetvjunction.com/view/4036/fox-sports-live-online-stream-fox-sports-live-tv-online-free.html)

[N.O.T]

Wrong tyre choice by Loeb he choose hard compound....

[focus206]

What a time by Petter!!!
Let's hope he keeps on the road on the "real" stages... in Portugal he started very fast, but then... ;)

[6789]

What a time by Petter!!!
Let's hope he keeps on the road on the "real" stages... in Portugal he started very fast, but then... ;)
Thats it, bring on the real stages tomorrow!

Looks like the Fox stream has stopped

[Kielder]

The initial start list has changed due to Oliveira's delay.

[MR666]

This is just a bit of a joke, wrc radio gets bugger all info. This is the WORLD RALLYING CHAMPIONSHIP not a small local rally get your heads out of your ass FIA.

[Kielder]

Second best time for Sordo. It was a pity not seeing his Ford's debut.

[Gherid_lacksGPS]

Boo, no love on the stream for Mikko and Mads.

[KKS]

Sordo on softs?

[Jafry]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/img_news/big/12907_argentina_-_Ctvrtecni_zakulisni_fotografie_de0d695675.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/img_news/big/12907_argentina_-_Ctvrtecni_zakulisni_fotografie_5cf94bd158.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/img_news/big/12907_argentina_-_Ctvrtecni_zakulisni_fotografie_03dfff116f.jpg

Behind scene photos from Thursday (http://www.rally-mania.cz/news.php?id=12907)

[Micke_VOC]

No Restart for Ramona Karlsson in PWRC according to hers facebook:
"Ran against something and broke the oil cooler, this was a spare engine that was changed last night and now it is all over, boring as hell!"

Really sorry for her, need to be really frustrating and disappointing.

[Langdale Forest]

What time (Engalnd time), does the first stage start today?

[Micke_VOC]

Time schedule for Central Europe.
CET Time (GMT +2)

Friday:

12:28 - SS2 La Pampa - La Pampa 1.
13:21 - SS3 Ascochinga - Agua De Oro 1.
17:46 - SS4 La Pampa - La Pampa 2.
18:39 - SS5 Ascochinga - Agua De Oro 2.
22:23 - SS6 Cosqin - Villa Allende.

Saturday:

13:30 - SS7 San Agustin - Santa Rosa 1.
14:18 - SS8 Amboy - Santa Monica 1.
15:31 - SS9 Inityaco - Golpe De Agua 1.
19:44 - SS10 San Agustin - Santa Rosa 2.
20:32 - SS11 Amboy - Santa Monica 2.
21:45 - SS12 Inityaco - Golpe De Agua 2.
00:50 - SS13 Super Especial Amarok 2.

Sunday:

13:00 - SS14 Matadero - Ambul 1.
14:51 - SS15 Mina Clavero - Giulio Cesare 1.
15:32 - SS16 El Condor - Copina 1.
19:07 - SS17 Mina Clavero - Giulio Cesare 2.
19:48 - SS18 El Condor - Copina 2.
20:21 - SS19 Power Stage Amarok.

[ProRally]

Why did she not take her own car ?

[ProRally]

No Restart for Ramona Karlsson in PWRC according to hers facebook:
"Ran against something and broke the oil cooler, this was a spare engine that was changed last night and now it is all over, boring as hell!"

Really sorry for her, need to be really frustrating and disappointing.

Why did she not take her own car ?

[Micke_VOC]

what time (engalnd time), does the first stage start today?

11:28 - ss2

[Micke_VOC]

Why did she not take her own car ?

I think she has hers own car.. or what do you mean ?

[ProRally]

I think she has hers own car.. or what do you mean ?

Was it local rented car ? Or her own Swedish car ?

[Micke_VOC]

Was it local rented car ? Or her own Swedish car ?

I think that was hers own car, but i am not 100 percent.

[HarriK]

I think that was hers own car, but i am not 100 percent.

From Ramonarallying.com

Idag åker Ramona och Miriam till Argentina, tillsammans med teamet. Imorgon fredag landar de i Cordoba, och faller allt på plats med reservdelar, upphämning av bil från sjöcontainern m.m., kommer ett test att köras på söndag.

So it's his own car i guess...

[amilk]

Is there any news about the wheather and road conditions?

[HarriK]

Is there any news about the wheather and road conditions?

Supposed to be rain:
Weather Forecast Córdoba - Foreca.com (http://www.foreca.com/Argentine/Cordoba)

[N.O.T]

2 minutes...

[Langdale Forest]

Solberg could win this rally...

[N.O.T]

Solberg could win this rally...

Nobre also...

[Langdale Forest]

And all the other village drivers....

[6789]

WRR says SS2 may not be live yet

[pete c]

stage isn't live yet

[Langdale Forest]

Any reasons?

[Francis44]

Although I dont think he is faster than Loeb it would be nice for Solberg to win, then the championship could gain a slight interest.

[Langdale Forest]

There is a good chance of that happening.

[HarriK]

10min delay (or more)

[N.O.T]

Typical rally Argentina organisers.....

[Langdale Forest]

The commentator on WRR thinks that there could be a S2000 car on the podium.

[dyfi1]

Any reasons?

fire truck on stage according to Rally Guru.

[6789]

20 mins delay apparently

[Langdale Forest]

Is superally or Rally 2 available on this rally?

[Moriarty]

Is it possible to listen WRR on iPhone? There is a music in iRally application and not possible to listen by wrc.com

[Hartusvuori]

45-60 min delay, according to G. Quinn.

[rallyfiend]

Is superally or Rally 2 available on this rally?

SupeRally is available at every rally this year except Monte.

[MartijnS]

Because of a firetruck on the stage..

[JAM]

Because of a firetruck on the stage..

Probably stucked in the mud?

[HarriK]

45-60 min delay, according to G. Quinn.

and soon...cancellation of the ss2....

[6789]

FordWRC fb said 45-1 hour, bloody hell

[CatraBiNAS]

bad news

[Micke_VOC]

Fuel-truck has broke on the way to refuel service... source: wrr

[Langdale Forest]

Is there refuelling between SS2 and SS3?

[pete c]

its the refuel truck

[Francis44]

WRR is saying refuel truck brooke down.

[pete c]

good start to this event.....

[Viking]

Although I dont think he is faster than Loeb it would be nice for Solberg to win

Well if he's not faster he will not win....or??

What is really being faster? Fast in a stage, over an loop of stages or the one who uses the least amount of time over the rally??

[6789]

No way they can drop NZ and its awesome roads for the issues they have in Argentina

[Gherid_lacksGPS]

I curse you fuel truck! Could have gotten a few more minutes of sleep, heh. Time for some tea and breakfast to kick the morning off.

[pete c]

good start to this event.....

[rallyfiend]

No way they can drop NZ and its awesome roads for the issues they have in Argentina

I don't quite think NZ gets the 800,000 spectators they get in Argentina though!

[N.O.T]

there is always something wrong with the event this year... kick them out.

[6789]

I don't quite think NZ gets the 800,000 spectators they get in Argentina though!

Yeah that's true, NZ is a lot closer to my home but ;)

[Kielder]

I hope they won't cancel any stage. :(

[pete c]

colin saying could be an a 8:30 start

[Kielder]

There's a replacement truck on the way to the stage.

[r199]

this message is on my fb
Petter Solberg (http://www.facebook.com/PetterSolbergWRC)
Refuel truck did not make it to refuel, meaning no fuel for rally cars. Causing a delay in Argentina at the moment.

[Gherid_lacksGPS]

"You must have been absolutely gutted?"
".........................yeah."

lol

[6789]

Loeb seems pretty happy about it - not sure if thats a real twitter account, but I'm sure thats what he is thinking. Will help him out no doubt

Loeb_Seb1
SS2 La Pampa delayed due to Re Fuel Truck stuck on stage. ;)

[Kielder]

colin saying could be an a 8:30 start

It's confirmed. It rains now.

[Mintexmemory]

Gentlemen (and gals if any)
I'm just heading off to Kielder to watch the UK Championship Pirelli International. Cant get WRC.Com on my BB so could some kind person post top 10 occasionally throughout the event on this thread
Ta muchly
P

[6789]

Gentlemen (and gals if any)
I'm just heading off to Kielder to watch the UK Championship Pirelli International. Cant get WRC.Com on my BB so could some kind person post top 10 occasionally throughout the event on this thread
Ta muchly
P
Hopefully the stages go live so results can be posted :)

[Hartusvuori]

Stage is live.

[rage82]

Stage 2 is finally live!

[Gard]

It's confirmed. It rains now.

Does Loeb has an special religion? He sure has some good connections...

[CatraBiNAS]

http://i37.fastpic.ru/big/2012/0427/8c/c594d13f327d50b8e0454d9941e1aa8c.jpg (http://fastpic.ru/)

No fuel :D

[Kielder]

Loeb is in the stage, first split.

[6789]

Traffic jam!!

[dimviii]

Does Loeb has an special religion? He sure has some good connections...

its not religion,its SPEED at qualify.

[6789]

Solberg 1.4 secs down at second split

[Gard]

its not religion,its SPEED at qualify.

How on earth could that result in an hour delay, so that Loeb got the rain he wanted?

[HarriK]

Östberg passes Neuville after first split?

edit: moving again..not even stopped

[Mirek]

How on earth could that result in an hour delay, so that Loeb got the rain he wanted?

Someone reported rain already before planned start in this thread.

[Kielder]

No second split for Neuville...

[CatraBiNAS]

I bet this delayed was because of Citroen...

[Tom206wrc]

Neuville :confused:

[Hartusvuori]

No second split for Neuville...

No splits, but on the move, says WRR.

[6789]

Solberg fighting back through the splits :D

[dimviii]

How on earth could that result in an hour delay, so that Loeb got the rain he wanted?

you would like Loeb to sweep the unrained road and Petter to be ok with no sweeping due to rain?

[Kielder]

Someone reported rain already before planned start in this thread.

The rain cleared twenty minutes ago, starting again at the time Loeb got onto the stage.

[Mirek]

The rain cleared twenty minutes ago, starting again at the time Loeb got onto the stage.

The stage has 37 km. I doubt it's same for all stage ;) It was clear that rain is going to come so Loebs choice was logic, not any kind of magic.

[Kielder]

No splits, but on the move, says WRR.

Fortunately he appears in the fourth one.

[Hartusvuori]

Fortunately he appears in the fourth one.

Missing splits means nothing if the car is on the move.

[Kielder]

The stage has 37 km. I doubt it's same for all stage ;)

Yes, I'm hearing an Argentinian radio and they are saying the rain stops and starts continuosly at the start and the end of the stage.

[CatraBiNAS]

Yes, I'm hearing an Argentinian radio and they are saying the rain stops and starts continuosly at the start and the end of the stage.

we can listen online?

[Kielder]

Sordo is doing his job, 4th best time, what is expected.

[sete]

prokop without splits?