Scary, dangerous or crazy places in stages of WRC or other rallies.

[OldF]

IMO the Great Orm looks quite scary. Lowest elevation is 20 m and highest elevation 130 m and not much room for errors on the right side.

SS1+2 - Great Orme | Wales Rally GB | United Kingdom | Rally-Maps.com (http://www.rally-maps.com/country/United-Kingdom/rally/Wales-Rally-GB/specialstage/2736/Great-Orme)


But this is crazy. Monte 1964 run on this stage in the dark when the gravel road was covered with snow and ice. By the book it’s 600 m to the bottom of the “ditch”. Does anyone know where this Esparrone road is?

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii284/OkdF/Monte1964Esparrone.jpg (http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii284/OkdF/Monte1964Esparrone.jpg)


Do you have any pictures of scary, dangerous or crazy places in some stages?

[Fly_Half]

There's a couple of places in Dyfi and Gartheiniog this year with big fresh air drops on the outside of a few bends.

[Mirek]

For me stage Lantosque - Lucerám of Monte Carlo. Part of the road is surrounded only by a tiny wall (like 10-20 cm high), part by nothing. We usually drive through to Turini and sitting on the "wrong" side especially in a high thing like VW Transporter doesn't make me feel good :) When I asked Štajf what he thinks about it, he told me that it's good to run it in the dark as You can't see down :D

Here a screen from google street view, close to Lantosque.

http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/4609/lantosque.jpg


From our stages it is definitely last third of Pindula in the opposite direction to the current one (last run in 2007). It's crazy fast downhill in the wood on a road which is so angled that with normal car You are still touching ground even in a very slow speed...

5:27: Dailymotion - Barum rally 2007 original SOUND!!! - a Auto-Moto video (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3r8fx_barum-rally-2007-original-sound_auto)

Onboard (most crazy part is the last third): Enrique Garcia Ojeda-Jordi Barrabés/Pindula-Barum Rally 2007 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muCyr9hww6I)

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2007/mcr/ba/mf_a_75_joseph_1.jpg


Than Irish Knockalla comes to my mind :)

Kris Meeke - 2008 Donegal Rally - Knockalla - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLptg6BYNoo)

[Zeakiwi]

Black Forest Stage - Silver Fern Rally, South Island NZ.
Silver Fern Rally 2010 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4U0sSAd4gWo)

[focus206]

The first that comes to my mind is the famous stage of Rally Acores (sorry, I don't remember the name) where the drivers go to the top of the mountain surrounded by big falls, awesome! You can see some of them here:
06 IRC Acores International Sound - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW3NdFuaFEM&feature=related)

Also, what about the rallies in Iceland, really love that landscape :)
Iceland rally - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vggpzd3ieU&feature=related)

[OldF]

For me stage Lantosque - Lucerám of Monte Carlo. Part of the road is surrounded only by a tiny wall (like 10-20 cm high), part by nothing. We usually drive through to Turini and sitting on the "wrong" side especially in a high thing like VW Transporter doesn't make me feel good :) When I asked Štajf what he thinks about it, he told me that it's good to run it in the dark as You can't see down :D

Here a screen from google street view, close to Lantosque.

http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/4609/lantosque.jpg


From our stages it is definitely last third of Pindula in the opposite direction to the current one (last run in 2007). It's crazy fast downhill in the wood on a road which is so angled that with normal car You are still touching ground even in a very slow speed...

5:27: Dailymotion - Barum rally 2007 original SOUND!!! - a Auto-Moto video (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3r8fx_barum-rally-2007-original-sound_auto)

Onboard (most crazy part is the last third): Enrique Garcia Ojeda-Jordi Barrabés/Pindula-Barum Rally 2007 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muCyr9hww6I)

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2007/mcr/ba/mf_a_75_joseph_1.jpg


Than Irish Knockalla comes to my mind :)

Kris Meeke - 2008 Donegal Rally - Knockalla - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLptg6BYNoo)

It would not feel me good either. I don’t like high places.

The videos look dangerous but at the same time they are spectacular.

[OldF]

I don’t know how scary this is but it’s a video when Petter made the ever-fastest time on Ouninpohja.

WRC - Petter Solberg Onboard WR - Ouninpohja - Part 1 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I_EHrDZRvQ)

3:20 the big jump. If I remember correctly Markko came to this jump with a speed of 178 km/h when he made the record jump.

5.50 This is also an interesting jump because there’s a right hand corner just after the jump. The jump doesn’t look so deep on the video but it’s a quite deep jump to the bottom (as Colin made it).

6:24 here starts the fast section as you can probably hear from the engine sound.


WRC - Petter Solberg Onboard WR - Ouninpohja - Part 2 - Rally Moments (http://rallymoments.com/videos/6141-WRC-Petter-Solberg-Onboard-WR-Ouninpohja-Part-2)

2:15 Arriving to the spectator area and turning into a smaller road

[Mirek]

Black Forest Stage - Silver Fern Rally, South Island NZ.
Silver Fern Rally 2010 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4U0sSAd4gWo)

Reminds me one stage from Rally China. I don't know the name but Jussi Valimakki used to have an onboard on his website some time a go.

[OldF]

The first that comes to my mind is the famous stage of Rally Acores (sorry, I don't remember the name) where the drivers go to the top of the mountain surrounded by big falls, awesome! You can see some of them here:
06 IRC Acores International Sound - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW3NdFuaFEM&feature=related) ]


Yes, I remember that spot when I watched the Acores at Eurosport. There was also a similar place in Safari rally several years ago.


Black Forest Stage - Silver Fern Rally, South Island NZ.
Silver Fern Rally 2010 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4U0sSAd4gWo)

Does the drivers take it safely on this kind of stages? At least I haven’t heard about any driver dropping in a deep “ditch”.

[focus206]

Yes, I remember that spot when I watched the Acores at Eurosport. There was also a similar place in Safari rally several years ago.

Really? Do you know any video with it, I'm curious to see it :)

[grugsticles]

There is a stage on the Safari (or it might have been Argentina) where the cars drive along a ridge of a mountain with vertical drops on either side.
I remember seeing footage of a Subaru driving along it, possibly Colin in the mid 90's.

That would be my pick.

EDIT: just noticed OldF's post, I think were thinking of the same stage.

[darkstar]

that´s one of the craziest tarmac jump´s that comes to my mind:

Crazy jumping tarmac action - with pure engine sounds - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Ml4y93x6Fmg#t=185s)

also some totally crazy jump is the famous mineshaft jump that´s also in richard burns rallye game:

Rally Of Canberra 2007 Mineshaft Crash - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWdPpHj07g0)

an about dropping down a cliff:

Louise Aitken-Walker - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLHGC5Wz_V8)

[Woodeye]

an about dropping down a cliff:

Louise Aitken-Walker - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLHGC5Wz_V8)

That was scary crash. The crew was really lucky to escape that one.

[Walach]

Imagine this crash with today´s seats and HANS...would be much more difficult to escape!

[BDunnell]

that´s one of the craziest tarmac jump´s that comes to my mind:

Crazy jumping tarmac action - with pure engine sounds - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Ml4y93x6Fmg#t=185s)

The one that springs to my mind is the Hamilton's Folly jump in Northern Ireland:

Hamilton's Folly yump 1987 Ulster rally - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ebo8VYwi2Ng)

[Hartusvuori]

From spectator's point of view, this bunch from 2010 Rally Estonia had a blessing, I think:

Mad-Croc Rally Estonia 2010 ss 5 crashes.avi - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjZzWM_aqtE)

Mr. Hollywood have crashed into a lake too once:

Petter Solberg jumping & crashing in WRC Rally Finland 2000 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZBjMtFnDjs)

[userwave]

any or most of the roads in Corsica :)

[zephyr]

Hi all, first post here.
That's the scariest onboard video that I know:
Rally Crash in the lac !!!! (-McSim-) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkK03sp76G8)

[bluuford]

Imagine this crash with today´s seats and HANS...would be much more difficult to escape!

And keep in mind the fact that nowadays you cannot open your window! It is pretty impossible to open the door under the water. And it is very hard to press out even the plastic window.


From spectator's point of view, this bunch from 2010 Rally Estonia had a blessing, I think:

Mad-Croc Rally Estonia 2010 ss 5 crashes.avi - YouTube

Did you heard the sound of flying spring? (during the second crash), this is the sceariest here.

For me, the sceariest stage was SS9 (last stage) I am sitting inside the corner at 2:33. The average speed of the stage is 128 km/h but GrN cars drive something like nearly 2 minutes around 200 km/h on that stage :-)
Here is the Kuipers onboard: SS 9 Estonia rally 2011 - Onboard Kuipers/Miclotte - Fiesta S2000 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBxn86D2tR4)

and a few years before: Biggest Rally Crash of 2009! - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-n36N-y4N4&feature=related)

[pino]

Passo Teglia (Sanremo Rally) :D

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[mousti]

that´s one of the craziest tarmac jump´s that comes to my mind:

Crazy jumping tarmac action - with pure engine sounds - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Ml4y93x6Fmg#t=185s)

]
That's in Belgium somewhere. Look alot alike at the Jalhay Rally at 1m46 where spectators are standing very dangerous!

JMC Rallye Hautes-Fagnes 2011 [HD] - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=677B-48WDBc&feature=player_embedded)

[big_sw2000]

And you just know this hurt on landing
136 mph Rally Car Jump - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FCYMx6XzUA&feature=related)

[mm1]

Talking about jumps: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpZF49P4-ws

[Mirek]

This used to be one crazy asphalt jump in Rally Pelhřimov (not run anymore). The best one is 0:40 the Fabia TDI (broken rear dampers after landing)...

Best of Rally Pelh (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6iXu7ueqjE)

[Seppala]

The first that comes to my mind is the famous stage of Rally Acores (sorry, I don't remember the name) where the drivers go to the top of the mountain surrounded by big falls, awesome! You can see some of them here:
06 IRC Acores International Sound - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW3NdFuaFEM&feature=related)

It's name is "Sete Cidades". One of my favs :-)
SS6+9 - Sete Cidades | Rally Açores | Portugal | Rally-Maps.com (http://www.rally-maps.com/country/Portugal/rally/Rally-A%C3%A7ores/specialstage/2404/Sete-Cidades)
3D Flight - Sete Cidades | Rally-Maps.com (http://www.rally-maps.com/country/Portugal/rally/Rally-A%C3%A7ores/specialstage/2404/Sete-Cidades/3D-Tour)

[dumb]

Famous Lithuanian stage "Beržinka". Tarmac stage, but every crew use gravel tyres. Grip is tricky, and the road is sweet. Pity that this stage havent been used since 2007.

Aukstaitijos ralis 2007 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2Yeipr_VEQ)

[Jr.]

Two infamous stages of the Norwegian tarmac rally of Sokndal, no explaination required, just have a look at the onboards...

Rally Sokndal 2011 - SS2 - Svein Frustøl - Try Frustøl Motorsport (HD) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s3PxOcxaW0)

Rally Sokndal 2010 SS6, Snartemo BMW M3 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7JCHI05vj0)

[pete c]

wow that 19 k stage is fantastic, roads are so smooth,awsome

[Mirek]

Go for google street view and than through RMC Power Stage. It's mad...

http://www.acm.mc/ramc/2012/docs/RAMC_2012__POWER_STAGE_SAINTE-AGNES-COL_DE_LA_MADONE.pdf

[darkstar]

i never knew there are sutch kind of tarmac stages in norway, it looks a bit like ireland :) nice stages!

[Mirek]

Two infamous stages of the Norwegian tarmac rally of Sokndal, no explaination required, just have a look at the onboards...

Rally Sokndal 2011 - SS2 - Svein Frustøl - Try Frustøl Motorsport (HD) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s3PxOcxaW0)

Rally Sokndal 2010 SS6, Snartemo BMW M3 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7JCHI05vj0)

Why infamous? I saw only the 19 km long so far and that is simply great. Except few places much more technical than ours...

[Barreis]

Really nice stages.

[Jr.]

Infamous = notorious. They dont forgive, rocks everywhere.
The 19k stage starts at sea level, rises to 170meters above and then dives back into Jossingfjord, and then up again on the other side, over the mountain and down again to Ana Sira. The elevation doesnt show that good in the video but adds yet another dimension to the stage.

The rally has only been driven for 3 years, we started it 2009 and have expanded ever since, now looking at approx 100 km stages for 2012. Its located between Stavanger and Kristiansand on the south-western coast, close to ferries from the continent. Hoping for more international participation, so the 2012 date is the weekend before Germany.

[raybak]

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[raybak]

The Mineshaft in Canberra

Flying MX5 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8brnjyHEVhs&feature=player_embedded)

Has been some big crashes over the years. This footage is of ACT Silver Cup Champion Andrew Buerckner in the recent Shannons Safari.

Ray

[Allar]

Rally jordania have some really scary places. This jump where Petter Solberg crashed this year was scary. ther are some more special places.

[Seppala]

Go for google street view and than through RMC Power Stage. It's mad...
You are right, scary it is! :vader: Rally Map | Rally-Maps.com (http://www.rally-maps.com/map/streetview/1/16/43.794475/7.44963/267.48/12.78/0)



Two infamous stages of the Norwegian tarmac rally of Sokndal, no explaination required, just have a look at the onboards...
Wow, liked it, so I mapped it: Rally Map | Rally-Maps.com (http://www.rally-maps.com/map/streetview/1/15/58.333392/6.358853/203.71/3.67/0)

[Mirek]

Now I watched the second Norwegian one and that's simply beautiful!

[OldF]

Really? Do you know any video with it, I'm curious to see it :)

I finally found something.

Part 3 from 3:02 to 3:17. Looks like the place I’ve mentioned. I remember seeing it from a different angle.

http://www.eastafricansafarirally.com/2011/videos.html

Beginning of part 3 is from day 4 and by the route map (http://www.eastafricansafarirally.com/2009/downloads/EASCR%20Overview%20Map%202009.pdf) I think this spot is somewhere on the Mbulu hills around Lake Manyara.

Looks like this spot (http://maps.google.fi/maps/myplaces?ll=-3.703662,35.551243&spn=0.002532,0.005284&vpsrc=6&ctz=-120&t=h&z=18). Nice scenery. Maybe I’ve should added the thread name also spectacular stages.

[focus206]

I finally found something.

Part 3 from 3:02 to 3:17. Looks like the place I’ve mentioned. I remember seeing it from a different angle.

Kenya Airways East African Safari Classic (http://www.eastafricansafarirally.com/2011/videos.html)

Beginning of part 3 is from day 4 and by the route map (http://www.eastafricansafarirally.com/2009/downloads/EASCR%20Overview%20Map%202009.pdf) I think this spot is somewhere on the Mbulu hills around Lake Manyara.

Looks like this spot (http://maps.google.fi/maps/myplaces?ll=-3.703662,35.551243&spn=0.002532,0.005284&vpsrc=6&ctz=-120&t=h&z=18). Nice scenery. Maybe I’ve should added the thread name also spectacular stages.

Oh, great :)
Could be more or less the same place of this? (starting from 15:57, Rovanpera with the 206)
WRC Daily Highlights: Safari 2001 Day 2: 26 Minutes - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWp8iYE7vBQ&feature=relmfu)

[OldF]

Oh, great :)
Could be more or less the same place of this? (starting from 15:57, Rovanpera with the 206)
WRC Daily Highlights: Safari 2001 Day 2: 26 Minutes - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWp8iYE7vBQ&feature=relmfu)

Looks like the same place.

I found the place I mentioned earlier in my 1998 season review VCR cassette and luckily also on youtube.

Wrc 1998 Full Season.flv - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNuVQZiwy10) at 29:02

[julkki]

WRC - Ouninpohja - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-NWjMjZlMM)

Tribute to the Legend :)

[T.Maanteiden kuningas]

Ouni.....best of the best...

[Juha_Koo]

WRC - Ouninpohja - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-NWjMjZlMM)

Tribute to the Legend :)

Excellent. :up:

Ouninpohja really has some special "soul". Every time when I'm there I get a certain special feeling. It's something more than a road and a place. You can almost hear the hundreds of rally stories echoing through the forest. :)

[Camelopard]

The Mineshaft in Canberra

Flying MX5 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8brnjyHEVhs&feature=player_embedded)

Has been some big crashes over the years. This footage is of ACT Silver Cup Champion Andrew Buerckner in the recent Shannons Safari.

Ray

A friend has just posted a video that he and a couple of friends made of The Don Capasco Rally in Canberra 1974.

At 12.08 or there abouts you can see the winning Alpine A110 going down the mineshaft.

It is much steeper than it looks in the film.



1974 Don Capasco Rally.avi - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITmjJyZ_qvQ)

[tfp]

WRC - Ouninpohja - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-NWjMjZlMM)

Tribute to the Legend :)

:up: :up: :up: amazing video, amazing stage, full of flying finns, brilliant :D

[wildboar]

The "WRC Greatest Stages" program has reappeared on YouTube:

WRC Greatest Stages - Part 1/3 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EB36lmpn-iQ)
WRC Greatest Stages - Part 2/3 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pinWx0HvQa8)
WRC Greatest Stages - Part 3/3 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYADuLDGmnQ)

[Barreis]

Looks like the same place.

I found the place I mentioned earlier in my 1998 season review VCR cassette and luckily also on youtube.

Wrc 1998 Full Season.flv - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNuVQZiwy10) at 29:02

This's so great to watch. Also show that there's no real stars today beside Loeb and Solberg.

[Hartusvuori]

You can almost hear the hundreds of rally stories echoing through the forest. :)

I've had this idea of making a book about the most famous and most respected rally stages. I think that would be nice to read and also nice to learn about. So - why not trying to make a community effort? We have now these photobook companies that print out books for reasonable prices. I've used Blurb (http://www.blurb.com/)to make my books and I've been happy with their quality. Some 200-paged hardcover (25x20 cm) w/ dust jacket cost about €50 - and if you order it with some promotion code - they often have -25% codes - it's even better. And it would make an online shop once published.

Is this a silly idea? We have the knowledge. We'd take 30-35 stages, each presented over 4-8 pages or so with pictures, a stage map and the story, it would fill up the 200 pages. Stages could be from each round of WRC and IRC 2012 (stages not necessarily run in 2012) and then few from WRC rounds not included in 2012 (Safari, Australia, for example) and some national or ERC rounds.

This would be absolutely non profit, the book would cost the cheapest option where ever we would choose to print it (I would recommend a service like Blurb's, each book printed at time, no printruns, no financial risks). We would need free pictures from the stages (on and/or off rallies), stories written about the stages, their history and meaning and perhaps someone with good handling of some graphic program to provide simple stage maps. Plus someone natively English speaking to proofread it all. I'm willing to coordinate as long as there wouldn't be any tight schedules expected.

What do you think?

[Barreis]

Nice idea.

[Juha_Koo]

What do you think?

I think that's a wonderful idea! Count me in!

[tfp]

I've had this idea of making a book about the most famous and most respected rally stages. I think that would be nice to read and also nice to learn about. So - why not trying to make a community effort? We have now these photobook companies that print out books for reasonable prices. I've used Blurb (http://www.blurb.com/)to make my books and I've been happy with their quality. Some 200-paged hardcover (25x20 cm) w/ dust jacket cost about €50 - and if you order it with some promotion code - they often have -25% codes - it's even better. And it would make an online shop once published.

Is this a silly idea? We have the knowledge. We'd take 30-35 stages, each presented over 4-8 pages or so with pictures, a stage map and the story, it would fill up the 200 pages. Stages could be from each round of WRC and IRC 2012 (stages not necessarily run in 2012) and then few from WRC rounds not included in 2012 (Safari, Australia, for example) and some national or ERC rounds.

This would be absolutely non profit, the book would cost the cheapest option where ever we would choose to print it (I would recommend a service like Blurb's, each book printed at time, no printruns, no financial risks). We would need free pictures from the stages (on and/or off rallies), stories written about the stages, their history and meaning and perhaps someone with good handling of some graphic program to provide simple stage maps. Plus someone natively English speaking to proofread it all. I'm willing to coordinate as long as there wouldn't be any tight schedules expected.

What do you think?

I'd buy one :)

I think the Panzer platte arena in Germany would have to be one of those stages aswel!
Starting off with why it was there, world war two horror stories etc, then show pictures of Duvals horror story in 201:)

[Hartusvuori]

Ouninpohja from Finland would be an easy choice, just like Panzerplatte from Germany. But what would be the other stages? I know the images but I don't remember the stages... Monte Carlo, Turini? Sweden, Sågen? Or Colin's Crest? New Zealand, Whaanga Coast? Of course! But what's the name of the Catalunyan stage with the hairpin in front of the high bridge, Argentinian stage with the moonscape ending, Sardegna stage with the big jump - or that Turkish stage with Mentos/Saliyk jump? Jordan's Baptism Site for a historical story? Deep ditches in Ypres? The challenge of Pindula or the atmosphere of the best super special stage in the world of Zlín? The -40 degrees temperatures of Arctic Rally? The mist that M-Sport couldn't see in Bulgaria? The damned last SSS of Poland! Now where were the huge crowds in Portugal in the late 90s when Loix had his one off-shine in WRC - or Latvala his multiple rolls? Or those multiple jumps in Australia, or the one with the deep water in the end? Now, what was the name of the stage when Sainz lost in all in '98 GB? Corsica and Henri Toivonen, do we need to go there? Acropolis - there must be one stage that destroys more cars than others. What about Sanremo? Valais, Var or Jänner? Lõuna Eesti ralli? Safari for crying out loud!?!

[tfp]

Theres a very good tribute to toivonen on youtube where the guy walks up to the wall they built where toivonen came off, Ill try and find it....

[Rallyper]

That´s a very good idea. (Besides I´d think someone could write a book of all the classic stages in 1000 Lakes/Jyväskylän Suurajot/NORF as well - a book with so many memories)

But of course the book you´ve suggested will become a classic if it will be for real. I´m in and try to write some lines of some stages. You could well become personal in writing.

[Tomi]

That´s a very good idea. (Besides I´d think someone could write a book of all the classic stages in 1000 Lakes/Jyväskylän Suurajot/NORF as well - a book with so many memories)

But of course the book you´ve suggested will become a classic if it will be for real. I´m in and try to write some lines of some stages. You could well become personal in writing.

Do you have this one? not a bad book, UserCom - Publishing (http://www.usercom.fi/publications/publis1.htm)

[Rallyper]

Do you have this one? not a bad book, UserCom - Publishing (http://www.usercom.fi/publications/publis1.htm)

I´ve ordered it. Thanks!

[bluuford]

I finally found something.

Part 3 from 3:02 to 3:17. Looks like the place I’ve mentioned. I remember seeing it from a different angle.

Kenya Airways East African Safari Classic (http://www.eastafricansafarirally.com/2011/videos.html)

Beginning of part 3 is from day 4 and by the route map (http://www.eastafricansafarirally.com/2009/downloads/EASCR%20Overview%20Map%202009.pdf) I think this spot is somewhere on the Mbulu hills around Lake Manyara.

Looks like this spot (http://maps.google.fi/maps/myplaces?ll=-3.703662,35.551243&spn=0.002532,0.005284&vpsrc=6&ctz=-120&t=h&z=18). Nice scenery. Maybe I’ve should added the thread name also spectacular stages.

I found it too:
WRC Rally Championships 'In the End' HD - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvTt4m5do8I)
right at the beginning of the video.