Rally Sweden 2012

[jbmarcus21]

3SS x 2 to Norway in 2012

Here the program Programme du Rallye Wrc de Suède 2012 (http://bit.ly/p9I5fC)

[Barreis]

Very nice.

[N.O.T]

very nice... and a proper power stage in length....

[Salist]

Thanks Jeremie!
You are very quick! :-)

[BleAivano]

i really wish that they for once could surprise us with something else then the usual Saturday stages which also is in the same order.

[Rallyper]

Yepp, all efforts gone to Norway and quality of swedish stages is good but no surprises, which is bad.

[SubaruNorway]

Looks like the SSS on thursday will decide the running order and not the shakedown in this one.

[PLuto]

WRC is going to hell....

[Mirek]

Eh?

[SubaruNorway]

I thought that FIA rules were that 10% of the km's must have been driven before ss times can be used for the running order for the day after. It would be ridiculous if for example Hirvonen makes a spin on the first one, and he has to start as last on the first (real) day...

But i think they decided that shakedown will act as a qualification next year so that the fastest on shakedown gets to pick his running order. Start as first you mean since he would be the slowest and has to decide last. Not sure how many cars that would go for.

[Co-driven]

Wasn't this new rule only applied to gravel rallies?

pink wiggert

[bluuford]

So, maybe we can continue Sweden talk here?

[Micke_VOC]

Rallyguide 1:
http://www.rallysweden.com/wp-content/uploads/Rally-Sweden-Rally-Guide-1-2012.pdf

Friday 9 December Supplementary Regulations & Entry Form gonna be published

[Salist]

Rallyguide 1:
http://www.rallysweden.com/wp-content/uploads/Rally-Sweden-Rally-Guide-1-2012.pdf

Friday 9 December Supplementary Regulations & Entry Form gonna be published


Thanks Micke!

[SunDanceRanch]

Yesssssss the first snow was falling last nigt so now there i about 10centimeters and there will be more this week.

[T.Maanteiden kuningas]

Let´s hope real winter rally! Maybe -100c and 7meters snow......Pakkasta sata astetta, seitsemän metriä lunta
oli Korvatunturin kupeella kesällä loppusodassa...

[Rallyper]

Let´s hope real winter rally! Maybe -100c and 7meters snow......Pakkasta sata astetta, seitsemän metriä lunta
oli Korvatunturin kupeella kesällä loppusodassa...

Se on olli kova!!

[Hartusvuori]

Yesssssss the first snow was falling last nigt so now there i about 10centimeters and there will be more this week.

What kind of temperatures you've been having? Are the roads getting properly frozen before heavier snowing?

In Finland the first rally of the year, Juniors and Ladies FRC event Jämsä Ralli was cancelled already due to lack of frost and snow. It would mean hell of a lot more expenses for organizers to repair the roads if proper winter conditions would apply so they decided to back off. It snowed a few weeks ago and there's currently a snowstorm outside, but the weather is still around zero and that's bad for early January rallies. If it would get really cold now once the ground is wet it would be perfect, but I don't think that'll happen.

[jbmarcus21]

#WRC Rally Sweden 2012 update program with Qualifying Stage & some change to kilometers Programme du Rallye Wrc de Suède 2012 (http://t.co/OkUpPwwO)

[Micke_VOC]

The entries for Rally Sweden 2012 are now open following the publication of the Supplementary Regulations and the entry form.
And first to entry was a young talented Swede =)
Tidemand first « Rally Sweden (http://www.rallysweden.com/tidemand-first?lang=en)

[Salist]

Supplementary Regulations 2012:
http://www.rallysweden.com/wp-content/uploads/Rally-Sweden-Supplementary-Regulations-2012.pdf

[cilius66]

Is it possible to get the stages on Google Earth?

[N.O.T]

wait until the event gets closer and you will find them here

Programme du Rallye Wrc de Suède 2012 (http://planetemarcus.free.fr/suede12.htm)

[wildboar]

Rally Sweden | Sweden | Rally-Maps.com (http://www.rally-maps.com/country/Sweden/rally/36/Rally-Sweden)

Click on "start flight" below "3D Tour". You need the GoogleEarth browser plugin.

[Micke_VOC]

Swedish STCC (Touring car) Champion Richard Göransson is rumoured to drive a Mini WRC in Rally Sweden
In 2011 Richard drove a Mitsu EVO X in Rally Sweden and finished second in PWRC.

[Micke_VOC]

Confirmed drivers who will drive Rally Sweden 2012:

WRC:
Loeb, Citroen
Hirvonen, Citroen
Latvala, Ford

SWRC:
Ogier, Skoda VW
Mikkelsen, Skoda VW UK
Tidemand, Skoda
Oleksowicz, Ford Fiesta

Not confirmed:
WRC:
P Solberg, Ford ?
H Solberg, Ford ?
ÖStberg, Ford ?
Tänak, Ford
Prokop, Ford
Meeke, Mini
Sordo, Mini
Göransson, Mini ?

SWRC:
PG Andersson, Proton ?
Craig Breen, Ford

[YankWRC]

Wasn't this new rule only applied to gravel rallies?

It applies to any loose surface rally. Snow included. Really looking forward to Sweden. Need more snow events!

[Micke_VOC]

Confirmed drivers who will drive Rally Sweden 2012:

WRC:
Loeb, Citroen
Hirvonen, Citroen
Latvala, Ford
P Solberg, Ford
Nasser Al-Attiyah, Citroen

SWRC:
Ogier, Skoda VW
Mikkelsen, Skoda VW UK
Tidemand, Skoda
Oleksowicz, Ford Fiesta

Not confirmed:
WRC:
H Solberg, Ford ?
ÖStberg, Ford ?
Tänak, Ford
Prokop, Ford
Meeke, Mini
Sordo, Mini
Göransson, Mini ?

SWRC:
PG Andersson, Proton ?
Craig Breen, Ford

Update

[Viking]

Göransson confirmed.

Göransson till Svenska Rallyt - Regionala nyheter | svt.se (http://svt.se/2.33831/1.2651468/goransson_till_svenska_rallyt)

[Rallyper]

Göransson confirmed.

Göransson till Svenska Rallyt - Regionala nyheter | svt.se (http://svt.se/2.33831/1.2651468/goransson_till_svenska_rallyt)

And rumours that Sandell will drive a Mini WRC as well.

[Micke_VOC]

Update:

Confirmed drivers who will drive Rally Sweden 2012:

WRC:
Loeb, Citroen
Hirvonen, Citroen
Latvala, Ford
P Solberg, Ford
Nasser Al-Attiyah, Citroen
Neuville, Citroen
Göransson, Mini

SWRC:
Ogier, Skoda VW
Mikkelsen, Skoda VW UK
Tidemand, Skoda
Oleksowicz, Ford Fiesta

Not confirmed:
WRC:
H Solberg, Ford
ÖStberg, Ford
Tänak, Ford
Prokop, Ford
Novikov, ?
Meeke, Mini
Sordo, Mini
Sandell, Mini

SWRC:
PG Andersson, Proton ?
Craig Breen, Ford

[J.Lindstroem]

You can put Paddon to the list now... :) With a fabia S2000...

[Micke_VOC]

You can put Paddon to the list now... :) With a fabia S2000...

Next update on Wednesday, i have a feeling that we can put a couple of more drivers on the confirmed list then. =)

[tfp]

Next update on Wednesday, i have a feeling that we can put a couple of more drivers on the confirmed list then. =)

I hope the two Mini's!

[Priorat]

Hi, a question for locals in Sweden and Norway. Are Swedish Krone accepted in Norway. We are going to rally Sweden and we thought that perhaps for just one day, we don't need to exchange Norge's Krones also.

[Viking]

Hi, a question for locals in Sweden and Norway. Are Swedish Krone accepted in Norway. We are going to rally Sweden and we thought that perhaps for just one day, we don't need to exchange Norge's Krones also.

Naa, don't like them :) some might take notes (at a bad exchange rate)..

Today 100 SEK = 86 NOK

[Micke_VOC]

Confirmed drivers who will drive Rally Sweden 2012:

WRC:
Loeb, Citroen
Hirvonen, Citroen
Latvala, Ford
P Solberg, Ford
Nasser Al-Attiyah, Citroen
Neuville, Citroen
Göransson, Mini
Tänak, Ford

SWRC:
Ogier, Skoda VW
Mikkelsen, Skoda VW UK
Pontus Tidemand, Skoda EVENrally
Oleksowicz, Ford Fiesta
Paddon , Skoda
PG Andersson, Proton
Alistar Mcrae, Proton
Craig Breen, Ford

Not confirmed:
WRC:
H Solberg, Ford
ÖStberg, Ford
Prokop, Ford
Novikov, ?
Meeke, Mini
Sordo, Mini
Sandell, Mini

SWRC:
Flodin ?


Swrc its beginning to see really interesting now..

[tolis]

Prokop for sure will do Sweden: eWRC.cz - Martin Prokop v deseti soutìžích MS 2012 (http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/show.php?id=18292)
Novikov will drive a Fiesta WRC.

[alleskids]

Proton is entering SWRC as a team not on drivers Andersson and Basso as personal entries?

[jbmarcus21]

Hanninen in SWRC ?

[pantealex]

Proton is entering SWRC as a team not on drivers Andersson and Basso as personal entries?

2 car team

PG will drive all 7
Basso 3 tarmac events (monaco, france, spain)
McRae 4 gravel events (sweden, new-zealand, finland, wales)

[Hartusvuori]

Hanninen in SWRC ?

So far it looks like that won't be the case. I hope he would get to do at least some odd rallies - like Finland of course.

[Tomi]

I hope he would get to do at least some odd rallies - like Finland of course.

I understood from his interview, that the main thing 2012 was testing VW and a few WRC rallies.

[Hartusvuori]

I understood from his interview, that the main thing 2012 was testing VW and a few WRC rallies.

Plus the IRC and ERC program, so he won't be idle.

[Micke_VOC]

2 car team

PG will drive all 7
Basso 3 tarmac events (monaco, france, spain)
McRae 4 gravel events (sweden, new-zealand, finland, wales)

No, 4 SWRC events for PG accoding his site.
PG in 2012
17-22/1 Monte Carlo, SWRC
9-12/2 Rally Sweden, SWRC
30/4-1/ Nya Zeeland, Asia Pacific
28-29/4 New Caledonia Asia Pacific
26-27/5 Australien Asia Pacific
22-24/6 Nya Zeeland, SWRC Asia Pacific
14-15/7 Malaysia Asia Pacific
2-5/8 Rally Finland, SWRC
15-16/9 Japan Asia Pacific
3-4/11 China Asia Pacific

[alleskids]

The Proton Motorsport line up is:
Monte Carlo: Andersson/Basso
Sweden: Andersson/McRae
New Zealand: Andersson/McRae
Finland: Andersson/McRae
Wales: McRae/??
France: Basso/??
Spain: Basso/??

missing a gravel and tarmac driver

[Fri]

The Proton Motorsport line up is:

missing a gravel and tarmac driver

Maybe Atkinson?

[Barreis]

What's with him?

[RICARDO75]

Maybe Atkinson?

Colin Clark on Twitter:
Spoke to Chris Mellors, seems no way back for Atko at Proton. Rumoured Subaru R4 deal also now very doubtful. He's 2 talented to do nothing!
Believe Atko and Proton had a difference of opinion following his problems in China!

[rp]

The Proton Motorsport line up is:
Monte Carlo: Andersson/Basso
Sweden: Andersson/McRae
New Zealand: Andersson/McRae
Finland: Andersson/McRae
Wales: McRae/??
France: Basso/??
Spain: Basso/??

missing a gravel and tarmac driver

I think P-G will drive all the events if his season goes well...

[bauwie]

Confirmed drivers who will drive Rally Sweden 2012:

WRC:
Loeb, Citroen
Hirvonen, Citroen
Latvala, Ford
P Solberg, Ford
Nasser Al-Attiyah, Citroen
Neuville, Citroen
Göransson, Mini
Tänak, Ford
H Solberg, Ford
Östberg, Ford
Prokop, Ford
Wilson, Ford
Novikov, Ford
Kuipers, Ford
Sordo, Mini
Sandell, Mini
Nobre, Mini
Araujo, Mini

SWRC:
Ogier, Skoda VW
Mikkelsen, Skoda VW UK
Pontus Tidemand, Skoda EVENrally
Oleksowicz, Ford Fiesta
Paddon , Skoda
PG Andersson, Proton
Alistar Mcrae, Proton
Craig Breen, Ford

Not confirmed:
WRC:
Meeke, Mini

SWRC:
Flodin ?

[alleskids]

Mathew Wilson has found the buget for his 7th year of the 5 year plan?

[janvanvurpa]

Mathew Wilson has found the buget for his 7th year of the 5 year plan?

"One step FORWARD! two steps back!"

[AP-Racing]

"One step FORWARD! two steps back!"

Vladimir Lenin :) ))) Grandfather, you? :)

[Zeakiwi]

Mathew Wilson has found the buget for his 7th year of the 5 year plan?

It is pretty obvious MW is there for on event test/ parts development/ data collection, in which case he is among the most experienced test and development drivers.

Atkinson is still out on his bicycle training (from Atko's tweets)

[bluuford]

Mathew Wilson has found the buget for his 7th year of the 5 year plan?

Now it is confirmed!

He is from another planet,to be more precise, he is from Mars. Not from Star Trek like N.O.T says.

One year in Mars is 686.98 Earth days.
So, 6 years in Earth is around 2100-2200 days divide it with 686.98 and you get that he is at the beginning of his third year (around 3.1-3.2) :-P

[N.O.T]

It is pretty obvious MW is there for on event test/ parts development/ data collection, in which case he is among the most experienced test and development drivers.

is this a joke or you are like that in your normal life as well ?

[janvanvurpa]

Vladimir Lenin :) ))) Grandfather, you? :)

Товарищ AP Racing, you know that here in крепость Америка, the country where we "elected" some Bush not once but 2 times that our political terms are all shifted to the extreme right.....
Therefore anybody who is "not Bush" is a filthy leftist...

That said, since my politics is typical European working class, in крепость Америка therefore I am accued of being a filthy, godless Marxist...
People are shocked when I agree. It is like saying you molest baby dolphins.

Ah! But they never ask what KIND OF Marxist I am...

Here you see my spiritual leaders:




http://www.marx-brothers.org/whyaduck/cards/all-hail.jpg

Happy Christmas and Happy New Year Tovarich!

[Zeakiwi]

#56 My idea of a t & d driver is someone like Barry Lee.
Barry Lee | Performing Artistes (http://www.performingartistes.co.uk/artistes/901/barry-lee.htm)

and Sam Hubinette
www.hubinetteracing.com (http://www.hubinetteracing.com) etc

[Sulland]

Entries so far; Entries « Rally Sweden (http://www.rallysweden.com/the-rally-2012/entries?lang=en)

Snowdepth: Snödjup - SMHI | SMHI (http://www.smhi.se/vadret/vadret-i-sverige/snodjup) not much snow yet

[noel157]

Confirmed drivers who will drive Rally Sweden 2012:

WRC:
Loeb, Citroen
Hirvonen, Citroen
Latvala, Ford
P Solberg, Ford
Nasser Al-Attiyah, Citroen
Neuville, Citroen
Göransson, Mini
Tänak, Ford
H Solberg, Ford
Östberg, Ford
Prokop, Ford
Wilson, Ford
Novikov, Ford
Kuipers, Ford
Sordo, Mini
Sandell, Mini
Nobre, Mini
Araujo, Mini

SWRC:
Ogier, Skoda VW
Mikkelsen, Skoda VW UK
Pontus Tidemand, Skoda EVENrally
Oleksowicz, Ford Fiesta
Paddon , Skoda
PG Andersson, Proton
Alistar Mcrae, Proton
Craig Breen, Ford

Not confirmed:
WRC:
Meeke, Mini

SWRC:
Flodin ?

Is Sandell confirmed?

[Micke_VOC]

Confirmed drivers who will drive Rally Sweden 2012:

WRC:
Loeb, Citroen
Hirvonen, Citroen
Latvala, Ford
P Solberg, Ford
Nasser Al-Attiyah, Citroen
Neuville, Citroen
Göransson, Mini
Tänak, Ford
H Solberg, Ford
Östberg, Ford
Prokop, Ford
Wilson, Ford
Novikov, Ford
Kuipers, Ford
Sordo, Mini
Sandell, Mini
Nobre, Mini
Araujo, Mini
............

Not Correct !!!

Confirmed drivers who will drive Rally Sweden 2012:

WRC:
Loeb, Citroen
Hirvonen, Citroen
Latvala, Ford
P Solberg, Ford
Nasser Al-Attiyah, Citroen
Neuville, Citroen
Göransson, Mini
Tänak, Ford
Sordo, Mini
Prokop, Ford
Nobre, Mini

SWRC:
Ogier, Skoda VW
Mikkelsen, Skoda VW UK
Pontus Tidemand, Skoda EVENrally
Oleksowicz, Ford Fiesta
Paddon , Skoda
PG Andersson, Proton
Alistar Mcrae, Proton
Craig Breen, Ford

Not confirmed:
WRC:
H Solberg, Ford
ÖStberg, Ford
Novikov, ?
Meeke, Mini
Sandell, Mini

SWRC:
Flodin ?

[Micke_VOC]

This moning there have been snowing about 15-20 cm in the rally area =)

[Salist]

Wow it's a great news for rallyfans. We will need lot of snow in February. :)
Thanks Micke!

[SunDanceRanch]

Happy Newyear to all.

Yes there is snow here now but the sad news is that it becomes+4 tommorow.
But they say thursday more snow en it will be colder from next saturday so we hope it will be better with alot of snow and not to cold.
Greetings from Ekshärad

[SubaruNorway]

Maybe finally some ice this year then? Good layer of ice in Lillehammer area of Norway anyway.

[Salist]

A few photos from Rally Norway 2009
Rally Norway 2009 (http://wr-x.com/#/wrc-img/2009-5/rally-norway-2009-12/)

[Micke_VOC]

Updated entry list:
Entries « Rally Sweden (http://www.rallysweden.com/the-rally-2012/entries?lang=en)

First WRC-crews - Loeb and Hirvonen

[noel157]

Anybody know what car Ostberg was testing today? Did he borrow a car?

[BleAivano]

Maybe finally some ice this year then? Good layer of ice in Lillehammer area of Norway anyway.

Forecasts says quite cold weather the next week or so but no snow until mid next week.

[Barreis]

Loeb vs Hirvonen. Go Loeb. :D

[Micke_VOC]

Forecasts says quite cold weather the next week or so but no snow until mid next week.

That was snowing yesterday in rallyarea, very "wet" snow but good if the weather forecast are right. Gonna be a lot of ice on the stages.

Langtidsvarsel for Hagfors Kommun, Värmland (Sverige) (http://www.yr.no/sted/Sverige/V%C3%A4rmland/Hagfors_Kommun~2709213/langtidsvarsel.html)

[Martin Luijk]

Loeb vs Hirvonen. Go Loeb. :D

He's Citroëns second driver so I don't think he will get any chance of finish in front of Loeb. Team-orders...

[Plan9]

Interestingly, in the recent Red Bulletin, Loeb says that there will be no team orders this year and could only come into effect when the points difference gets to be too big. Whether or not he is telling the truth is a different question.

[tfp]

Loeb vs Hirvonen. Go Loeb. :D

It will be interesting to see the pace. My predictions are Hirvonen outpaces Loeb and then gets a time penalty on purpose. On this rally anyway, the tarmac rounds I dont think team orders will be needed. But lets not forget about Jari Matti:-)

[Brother John]

That was snowing yesterday in rallyarea, very "wet" snow but good if the weather forecast are right. Gonna be a lot of ice on the stages.

Langtidsvarsel for Hagfors Kommun, Värmland (Sverige) (http://www.yr.no/sted/Sverige/V%C3%A4rmland/Hagfors_Kommun~2709213/langtidsvarsel.html)

It takes a month to start the rally, a lot can change with the weather. Yes hopefully, the weather forecast are right.

[Martin Luijk]

Interestingly, in the recent Red Bulletin, Loeb says that there will be no team orders this year and could only come into effect when the points difference gets to be too big. Whether or not he is telling the truth is a different question.

I've heard that last year too. Loeb has been Citroëns number one for years, so I don't think this year will be different. But we will see, it could be an interesting fight.

[bauwie]

Are the national class also driving this year?
Where can I find information?

[peg306]

No they are not, only swedish Mitsubishi Cup.

[MikeD]

My predictions are Hirvonen outpaces Loeb

Dude...no more Beefeater for you. Hirvonen has never outpaced Loeb, so why should he start now. He won't win a single rally this year and I think he will find it harder to even reach a podium than with Ford.

[Barreis]

:D

[cali]

Dude...no more Beefeater for you. Hirvonen has never outpaced Loeb, so why should he start now. He won't win a single rally this year and I think he will find it harder to even reach a podium than with Ford.
In Sweden it's possible. Hirvonen has been very strong on ice and snow.

[N.O.T]

In sweden Hirvonen has the speed to win Loeb...in Finland he can win easy with no mistakes....but we have to see him in the DS3 if he can maintain the pace.

[BleAivano]

In Sweden it's possible. Hirvonen has been very strong on ice and snow.

True, however we'll see how much snow and ice there will actually be.

50km north of Hagfors there are only 10cm of snow and warmer weather is expected towards the end of the upcoming week.

[tfp]

Dude...no more Beefeater for you. Hirvonen has never outpaced Loeb, so why should he start now. He won't win a single rally this year and I think he will find it harder to even reach a podium than with Ford.

Did you see rally sweden 2011? Obviously not.

[danon]

... Hirvonen has never outpaced Loeb, so why should he start now. He won't win a single rally this year and I think he will find it harder to even reach a podium than with Ford.

A boldly-biased statement subject to correction later on by the creator itself.
Mark my words, MikeD!

[Salist]

New entries:
Entries « Rally Sweden (http://www.rallysweden.com/the-rally-2012/entries?lang=en)
PG and A. McRae - Proton, Göransson - Mini WRC...

[bauwie]

True, however we'll see how much snow and ice there will actually be.

50km north of Hagfors there are only 10cm of snow and warmer weather is expected towards the end of the upcoming week.

The forecast that I'm looking at says that In Hamar (region first day) and Hagfors, it wil be cold this week, and next week there will be a lot of snow.

[SubaruNorway]

The forecast that I'm looking at says that In Hamar (region first day) and Hagfors, it wil be cold this week, and next week there will be a lot of snow.

Hamar is 1 1/2 hours north of where the rally will be based in Norway, Kongsvinger is where you should look at. I think it's 10-20 cm in that area, maybe some more today. No snow forecasted for the next 10 days.

[tolis]

21 entries so far with Prokop, Al Rajhi and Weng: Entries « Rally Sweden (http://www.rallysweden.com/the-rally-2012/entries?lang=en)

[N.O.T]

21 entries so far with Prokop, Al Rajhi and Weng: Entries « Rally Sweden (http://www.rallysweden.com/the-rally-2012/entries?lang=en)

thank god that AL RAjhi and weng are in, i was anxius they might not make it....keep these amazing news coming.

[MikeD]

A boldly-biased statement subject to correction later on by the creator itself.
Mark my words, MikeD!

Are people blind in here??? Hirvonen has been nowhere in the last two years. He has two wins in Sweden due to road position - his other couple of wins were due to teamorders.

I am sticking with my prediction! ;)

[Rallyper]

Are people blind in here??? Hirvonen has been nowhere in the last two years. He has two wins in Sweden due to road position - his other couple of wins were due to teamorders.

I am sticking with my prediction! ;)

Are you N.O.T. ´s brother?

[danon]

Are people blind in here??? Hirvonen has been nowhere in the last two years. He has two wins in Sweden due to road position - his other couple of wins were due to teamorders.

I am sticking with my prediction! ;)

You overlook many "small details" like... (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=270743369645691&set=a.181064755280220.46947.157970524256310&type=1)
Mikko Hirvonnen: "I´m 10 years younger! Everything is so exiting again."

Mikko Hirvonnen: "I'm certainly not have expected that the new car would be as soon as half a second per kilometer faster."(Googlish trans.) (http://yle.fi/urheilu/lajit/moottoriurheilu/ralli/2012/01/hirvonen_citroenilla_-_quottuntuu_hassultaquot_3142529.html)

That says a lot, if not all.
Analyse!

Anyway, a different point of view is allways welcome, MikeD.
Respect!

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/378831_270743369645691_157970524256310_705277_1251 472049_n.jpg

[Plan9]

Why isn't Mikko wearing the same overalls as Loeb?

[Plan9]

New entries:
Entries « Rally Sweden (http://www.rallysweden.com/the-rally-2012/entries?lang=en)
PG and A. McRae - Proton, Göransson - Mini WRC...

Is Göransson going to do more rallies with the official Mini team or will he be involved with the Swedish outfit?

[Rallyper]

Is Göransson going to do more rallies with the official Mini team or will he be involved with the Swedish outfit?

Göransson is not involved in Swedish WRT, and probably aone off in RS. He´s gonna do swedish racing series.

[Hartusvuori]

Why isn't Mikko wearing the same overalls as Loeb?

You mean like tandem?

[Bartolbia84]

thank god that AL RAjhi and weng are in, i was anxius they might not make it....keep these amazing news coming.

:)

[Kiiver]

Why isn't Mikko wearing the same overalls as Loeb?
Rookie clothes...

[MikeD]

Are you N.O.T. ´s brother?

Not that I know of...


You overlook many "small details" like... (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=270743369645691&set=a.181064755280220.46947.157970524256310&type=1)
Mikko Hirvonnen: "I´m 10 years younger! Everything is so exiting again."
(Googlish trans.) (http://yle.fi/urheilu/lajit/moottoriurheilu/ralli/2012/01/hirvonen_citroenilla_-_quottuntuu_hassultaquot_3142529.html)

That says a lot, if not all.
Analyse!

Anyway, a different point of view is allways welcome, MikeD.
Respect!



Age is irrelevant - speed is relevant and the future will be about JML and Ogier ... not Hirvonen because he's isn't fast enough. The only reason he has been semi-close to the title is due to massive use of teamorders in a combination with consistency.

Hirvonen is not hired by Citroën to take titles ... he's there to secure points for the Manufacturers title.

[Mirek]

Can some Swede tell me who is Joakim Roman? Is he going to use the car of Per-Arne Sääv or some other?

[Iskald]

Anybody know what car Ostberg was testing today? Did he borrow a car?

No, the team has bought his car from last year from M-Sport. He first tested the car in WRC-spec, rebuilt the car during the night and tested in RRC-spec the next day (30 mm restrictor etc.) Mads will contest at least the first two norwegian championship rounds, starting with the Mountain Rally coming saturday. In Norway he will drive the car in RRC-spec. As also Andreas Mikkelsen will drive his Fabia S2000 in the Mountain Rally, the outcome and comparison between the two will be very interesting. As it looks now both Mads and Andreas will contest the Finnskog Rally 4th of february. This is not a championship round, but an excellent testing opportunity before the Swedis Rally. The Finnskog Rally has eight stages totalling 120 kms in the same area where they are running the first day in Swedish Rally. This will be important as the stages in Norway has a different and more technical caracter than the stages in Sweden, and remember the first day of Rally Sweden is something like 110 km stages in Norway! The organisers of the Finnskog Rally are trying to market their rally as an excellent test for all drivers participating in the Swedish Rally, only three days before recce starts in Sweden.

[bluuford]

I see Pajunen in Entry list with Subaru and Kaj reading the notes. And they are indicating class 2. So, I guess it is R4 and he is going to run in SWRC with R4 maybe? Any news in Finland? When Kaj is reading the notes then I guess that it is TMR car.

[Jeppe]

I see Pajunen in Entry list with Subaru and Kaj reading the notes. And they are indicating class 2. So, I guess it is R4 and he is going to run in SWRC with R4 maybe? Any news in Finland? When Kaj is reading the notes then I guess that it is TMR car.

Yes, that´s right. Mikko will drive Tommi´s R4 in Sweden. And Yes Kaj is new co-driver for Mikko this year. More to follow in official press releases later....

Some promo pictures can be found from here (http://www.mikkopajunen.net/content/fi/40/513/Testi.html)

[Leon]

Can some Swede tell me who is Joakim Roman? Is he going to use the car of Per-Arne Sääv or some other?

I'm not from Sweden but I remember him participating in the PWRC in 2001 I think. I remember him because his co-driver was a woman with a greek name :) Tina Mitakidou.

[Andre Oliveira]

Solowow and Ketomaa with Fiesta WRC too.

[Fri]

Oliveira with Subaru!?

[Iskald]

Can some Swede tell me who is Joakim Roman? Is he going to use the car of Per-Arne Sääv or some other?

It really impresses me when people are actually interested in the most obscure of journeymen drivers. Joakim Roman finished 26th overall in the 2001 Swedish rally, some 25 minutes behind Gr.N winner Stig Olof Walfridsson. In 2002 he finished the rally in 44th place, 17 minutes behind Daniel Carlsson (and ten minutes behind Tord Linnerud/Yours truly...).

[Mirek]

I admit I'm asking just because of his car. I still somehow try to follow who and how is driving Fabias ;)

Thanks for both answers.

[Roy]

No Henning en no Ferm WRT driver Dennis Kuipers.

Entries « Rally Sweden (http://www.rallysweden.com/the-rally-2012/entries?lang=en)

[EightGear]

Edit: Whoop never mind.

Shame about Kuipers!!!! :(

[pantealex]

No Henning en no Ferm WRT driver Dennis Kuipers.

Entries « Rally Sweden (http://www.rallysweden.com/the-rally-2012/entries?lang=en)

It´s not final entrylist yet!

[Fly]

A new generation of the famous Walfridsson family on the list: Jimmie. Any Swede got info about his potential? Have you seen him live?

Details about Team Walfridsson (father and kids): # Välkommen till Stig-Olov Walfridson och Helmia Motorsport! # (http://www.walfridsson.com/)

[Micke_VOC]

FLodin in a FIesta S2000 =)

The S2000-class looks really interesting in Rally Sweden.

[Viking]

FLodin in a FIesta S2000 =)

The S2000-class looks really interesting in Rally Sweden.

:up:

And a swrc wild card according his webpage.

[danon]

Age is irrelevant - speed is relevant and the future will be about JML and Ogier ... not Hirvonen because he's isn't fast enough. The only reason he has been semi-close to the title is due to massive use of teamorders in a combination with consistency.

Hirvonen is not hired by Citroën to take titles ... he's there to secure points for the Manufacturers title.

Sebastien Loeb: "The main enemy will be Hirvonen" -"Latvala is the real challenge" (http://www.motorsport-aktuell.com/automobil/loeb-latvala-ist-die-wirkliche-herausforderung-4247557.html)

No titles mentioned, no scenarios ruled out.

[Viking]

Nasser, Neuville and Jr.Van Merksteijn on the list now.

[Micke_VOC]

Should be at least 5 more entries from Swedish Mitsubishi Evolution cup to.. only Weng now.
( Maybe Jimmy Joge, Jocke Nyman and more)

[N.O.T]

As long as that AL Raijl enters or whatever his name is please post it in here.....i am very anxious about his entry and what type of car he will drive.

[tolis]

18 WRC cars so far, 11 S2000, 1 RRC and 1 R4. Not bad.

[MikeD]

The polish driver Michal Solowow who is going to drive a Fiesta WRC in Sweden - is he any good?

[EightGear]

The polish driver Michal Solowow who is going to drive a Fiesta WRC in Sweden - is he any good?


He's an ERC regular and finished 3th in Ypres last year after the exclusion of Bouffier.

[N.O.T]

The polish driver Michal Solowow who is going to drive a Fiesta WRC in Sweden - is he any good?

short answer is NO...but not a complete tourist either mainly because of exprience rather than skills, in sweden if he manages to be in the top 10 of the s2000s i will be amazed.

[Mirek]

The polish driver Michal Solowow who is going to drive a Fiesta WRC in Sweden - is he any good?

He is very rich guy driving for fun but he is not just a tourist. He won several stages last weekend on snow in Jänner Rallye against Juho Hänninen. He had advantage of starting position due to his off from first leg but still it wasn't bad performance.

[mousti]

Yep Solowow, is with all his experience getting some good stage times sometimes. Rarely crashes aswell. He's in top 400 list of Forbes richest men in the world I think.

[N.O.T]

Yep Solowow, is with all his experience getting some good stage times sometimes. Rarely crashes aswell. He's in top 400 list of Forbes richest men in the world I think.

around 2.5 Billion US Dollar.

We need to persuade him to buy Greece...and he would still have some millions in pocket money.

[noel157]

around 2.5 Billion US Dollar.

We need to persuade him to buy Greece...and he would still have some millions in pocket money.

Should leave him with around 2.49 billion USD left............. :)

[Barreis]

He would be in administration soon.

[Micke_VOC]

FLodin in a FIesta S2000 =)

The S2000-class looks really interesting in Rally Sweden.


:up:

And a swrc wild card according his webpage.

And second wildcard in SWRC will Pontus Tidemand have.

[Roy]

As long as that AL Raijl enters or whatever his name is please post it in here.....i am very anxious about his entry and what type of car he will drive.

Special for you ;)
Simon Jean-Joseph has today confirmed a collaboration with M-Sport Ltd. to support Yazeed Al-Rajhi behind the wheel of a Ford Fiesta RS Regional Rally Car (RRC) in the 2012 edition of the WRC’s official support series, the S-WRC.
Al-Rajhi to contest S-WRC with Ford Fiesta RS RRC (http://www.m-sport.co.uk/index.php/news/903-al-rajhi-to-contest-s-wrc-with-ford-fiesta-rs-rrc)

[Roy]

No Henning en no Ferm WRT driver Dennis Kuipers.

Entries « Rally Sweden (http://www.rallysweden.com/the-rally-2012/entries?lang=en)


It´s not final entrylist yet!

I know, but still not on...

[N.O.T]

Special for you ;)
Simon Jean-Joseph has today confirmed a collaboration with M-Sport Ltd. to support Yazeed Al-Rajhi behind the wheel of a Ford Fiesta RS Regional Rally Car (RRC) in the 2012 edition of the WRC’s official support series, the S-WRC.
Al-Rajhi to contest S-WRC with Ford Fiesta RS RRC (http://www.m-sport.co.uk/index.php/news/903-al-rajhi-to-contest-s-wrc-with-ford-fiesta-rs-rrc)

Mrs Burcu let JJ to become another drivers mentor as well....strange.

[Koceens]

I think Jari Ketomaa is the man we should talk about. It's great to see his Fiesta WRC entry.

[Juha_Koo]

I think Jari Ketomaa is the man we should talk about. It's great to see his Fiesta WRC entry.

I wonder if he has the budget because there hasn't been any press release and/or media event as well as nothing on his website... Ofcourse I hope for the best. :)

[N.O.T]

I think ketomaa lost a great opportunity to join the official ford team this year...what went wrong ?

[Koceens]

Mikko Hirvonen and Craig Breen will drive Rally Finnskog (the same region where the 1st day of rally Sweden will be held) just 1 week before Sweden 2012. Probably more priority drivers will entry in a few days.
Source: Mikko Hirvonen kjører Rally Finnskog (http://www.norsk-rally.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8125:mikko-hirvonen-kjorer-rally-finnskog)

[Donalduck]

Andreas Mikkelsen driving rally sweden in Skoda for VW motorsport..

[DonJippo]

I wonder if he has the budget because there hasn't been any press release and/or media event as well as nothing on his website... Ofcourse I hope for the best. :)

There will be one on Wednesday with more news from him.

[DonJippo]

.

[focus206]

When will the entries close? Henning, Wilson and Kuipers should entry also... right?

[tolis]

10th of January the entries closed.

[focus206]

So it's strange they are not in :\

[tolis]

Maybe some additions are going to be made in the morning. I hope at least.

[bauwie]

Maybe some additions are going to be made in the morning. I hope at least.

At least 1 update with Kris Atkinson.
I'm glad he's back.

[rp]

Now there is also Eyvind Brynildsen/Timo Alanne, Skoda Fabia S2000

Will be very tight fight in the class 2...

[tolis]

At least 1 update with Kris Atkinson.
I'm glad he's back.
In a R4 Impreza! Nice!

[RS]

Now there is also Eyvind Brynildsen/Timo Alanne, Skoda Fabia S2000

Will be very tight fight in the class 2...

I would expect Ogier and Mikkelsen to be far ahead.

But entry list as a whole for Sweden is looking really good. Much better than Monte.

[rp]

I would expect Ogier and Mikkelsen to be far ahead.


They have to. And Mikkelsen has to be near Ogier if he is going to be VW`s driver...

[dimviii]

They have to. And Mikkelsen has to be near Ogier if he is going to be VW`s driver...

Μaybe Ogier to be close to Mikkelsen only me is thinking?

[noel157]

Μaybe Ogier to be close to Mikkelsen only me is thinking?

Would agree.

[N.O.T]

you rate ladycup competitors too high i think....

[dimviii]

you rate ladycup competitors too high i think....
bet? :s mokin:

[bauwie]

So it's strange they are not in :\

Rallye-magazin.de states that Henning won't start, due to lack of money.

Otherwise they mention that 20 WRC cars will start.

I wonder which 2 we're still missing.

[Rallyper]

Rallye-magazin.de states that Henning won't start, due to lack of money.

Otherwise they mention that 20 WRC cars will start.

I wonder which 2 we're still missing.

Why does Henning choose MC instead of Rally Sweden then, if lack of money?

[rallyfiend]

Why does Henning choose MC instead of Rally Sweden then, if lack of money?

He probably has a sponsor expecting all sorts of TV coverage of Monte!

I guess that's one sponsor now lost to rallying!

[RS]

you rate ladycup competitors too high i think....

Remember how many stages Ford's new No.2 won on Monte last year?

[N.O.T]

you cannot tackle rallies with such arguments....

Hirvonen won in 2009 as well... and Ogier in 2008.... so...

[Sulland]

maybe sponsors for Henning and Wilson Jr have gone wrong, and that they will not show for MC either?

[N.O.T]

Wilson Jr sponsors ?????

LOL

i know a better joke...

A Greek Rally driver walks into a bar ....

[Karukera]

you cannot tackle rallies with such arguments....

Hirvonen won in 2009 as well... and Ogier in 2008.... so...

Ogier won MC in 2009, Hirvonen in 2010

[N.O.T]

indeed... i am still in 2011.

[tfp]

Just heard the news about atko, very nice to see him back, and in an impreza aswel!

[Mirek]

Ogier won MC in 2009, Hirvonen in 2010

Of course I don't want to bring their victories down but it's always good to see circumstances when speaking about pure speed. Ogier won it in 2009 more by luck than speed. Some six drivers in front of him retired or had punctures. He won only one stage where he lives at, where there was plenty of new snow (he was starting quite far in the field) and where Hänninen and Meeke crashed.

In 2010 it was different story, Ogier was fastest but first his off and than classic alternator PSA problem ended his chances.

Mikko in 2010 benefited strongly from special wet tyres made by Pirelli only for Monte Carlo to take a victory from Michelin. He won only few stages but he made enough time on wet stages so his slower times on snow didn't harm him. There is also one more point - the secrecy how Ford passed scrutineering one day later after they were rejected (I believe there were also some protest from Škoda against homologation - maybe also from PSA?).

Both won and that's fact. But we can't say their victories showed they were way faster than those like Hänninen, Meeke or Sarrazin. (Solberg last year for another example). Moreover in Monte where it is often quite a gamble.

[alleskids]

Daniel Oliveira (formaly Brasil WRT) has entered in a Subaru Impreza in clas 3. No WRCar, not even a Mini of Ford?
Mads Ostberg has entered outside M-Sport and under his own name. Has he plans to register for manufacturer?

[tfp]

Daniel Oliveira (formaly Brasil WRT) has entered in a Subaru Impreza in clas 3. No WRCar, not even a Mini of Ford?
Mads Ostberg has entered outside M-Sport and under his own name. Has he plans to register for manufacturer?

I wouldnt have thought so, it seems nowadays even Manufacturers cant even register as manufacturers :(

[mousti]

Daniel said that only Sweden for now is confirmed to start this year.

He's trying to get a WRC program for later in 2012.

[Iskald]

Rallye-magazin.de states that Henning won't start, due to lack of money.

Otherwise they mention that 20 WRC cars will start.

I wonder which 2 we're still missing.

"Rallye-magazin.de states"??? How can some german site "state" anything firm about Henning Solbergs situation? All they are doing are quoting rumours. It will surprise me enormously if Henning won`t be at the starting line in Sweden! But then again, who am I to know...

[Rallyper]

"Rallye-magazin.de states"??? How can some german site "state" anything firm about Henning Solbergs situation? All they are doing are quoting rumours. It will surprise me enormously if Henning won`t be at the starting line in Sweden! But then again, who am I to know...

I hope you´re the one to know...

[Plan9]

Will Atko's Subaru be run by prodrive by any chance?? He could be a bit cheaper than Meeke???

I am not surprised about Oliveria's situation from what we saw of him last year.

[Hartusvuori]

Will Atko's Subaru be run by prodrive by any chance?? He could be a bit cheaper than Meeke???

How many R4 Impreza's have you seen run by Prodrive lately?

[N.O.T]

How many R4 Impreza's have you seen run by Prodrive lately?

how many serious questions have you seen from him lately ???

he just posts random stuff off his head...why bother?

[Brother John]

how many serious questions have you seen from him lately ???

he just posts random stuff off his head...why bother?

Yeah maybe I should here also clean up som posts! ;)

[Vargåsen]

Henning and Wilson have entered, 20 wrc, 15 s2000, I think it's the best start list since 2003 or something

[Hartusvuori]

how many serious questions have you seen from him lately ???

he just posts random stuff off his head...why bother?

We have teaching obligations ;-)

[Salist]

Henning and Matthew on entry list:
Entries « Rally Sweden (http://www.rallysweden.com/the-rally-2012/entries?lang=en)

20 WRC!!! :)

[Micke_VOC]

Henning and Matthew on entry list:
Entries « Rally Sweden (http://www.rallysweden.com/the-rally-2012/entries?lang=en)

20 WRC!!! :)

This is a great entrylist... maybe one of the best ever....

[Brother John]

Yes, this is also one of the best real rallies you can find att WRC. :D

[N.O.T]

Nice entry, Montes one has a better quality though, both in WRC and SWRC.

[focus206]

Henning and Matthew on entry list:
Entries « Rally Sweden (http://www.rallysweden.com/the-rally-2012/entries?lang=en)

20 WRC!!! :)

Good :)
Niow it's just Dennis Kuipers the "missing" driver...

[Barreis]

This is a great entrylist... maybe one of the best ever....

How can be best ever entry list without C.McRae?!

[Viking]

Nice entry, Montes one has a better quality though, both in WRC and SWRC.

Can't really follow you here, what drivers gives MC better quality??

[Mirek]

There are four cars in SWRC in Monte Carlo. Or am I wrong and it's more and there is a chance to see complete podium in finish of the rally? :D

[N.O.T]

Can't really follow you here, what drivers gives MC better quality??

more drivers that know tarmac surface better...which potentially will make the competition better.

For example Neuville in sweden will be tourist while in Monte he is a dark horse, same goes for Campana, who in sweden some R2 might be faster but in monte i think he will do better.

It is not always about numbers and names...try and see the big picture...or you are going to end up like those strange poeple who think posting news about Al rajihl and the rest of the tourist squad important.

[RS]

Nice entry, Montes one has a better quality though, both in WRC and SWRC.

How did you work that one out? Sweden seems to basically be the same + more.

[N.O.T]

How did you work that one out? Sweden seems to basically be the same + more.

big numbers ruuuule...more Al raihjls please.... see the post above.

[N.O.T]

There are four cars in SWRC in Monte Carlo. Or am I wrong and it's more and there is a chance to see complete podium in finish of the rally? :D

yes sorry i ment the s2000s cars in general...not just the SWRC championship ones.

[RS]

big numbers ruuuule...more Al raihjls please.... see the post above.

You are quite right that there is a quantity vs. quality argument, but I think the likes of Ostberg, Ketomaa, Sandell at worst balance out Campana/Neuville and as Mirek said the SWRC entry is bigger (and better).

[Mirek]

N.O.T, please, once again go to those lists and find who is entered in SWRC in RMC and Sweden. Than You must see You wrote nonsense no matter if Your view is based on quality or quantity.

[Rallyper]

yes sorry i ment the s2000s cars in general...not just the SWRC championship ones.

So suddenly the tourist drivers became interesting for you? ;)

[leighton323]

N.O.T, please, once again go to those lists and find who is entered in SWRC in RMC and Sweden. Than You must see You wrote nonsense no matter if Your view is based on quality or quantity.

Like :)

[Mirek]

yes sorry i ment the s2000s cars in general...not just the SWRC championship ones.

Sorry, for my previous post, I overlooked this one.

[Viking]

more drivers that know tarmac surface better...which potentially will make the competition better.

For example Neuville in sweden will be tourist while in Monte he is a dark horse, same goes for Campana, who in sweden some R2 might be faster but in monte i think he will do better.

It is not always about numbers and names...try and see the big picture...or you are going to end up like those strange poeple who think posting news about Al rajihl and the rest of the tourist squad important.

Well... same could be said of Sweden:

more drivers that know snow/ice surface better...which potentially will make the competition better.

For example Henning in Monte will be tourist while in Sweden he is a dark horse, same goes for Østberg....

And, by the way, I have no problem if Al rajihl gets an post or two here :)

[N.O.T]

So suddenly the tourist drivers became interesting for you? ;)

i do not think drivers like Arzeno, Abbring are tourists, on tarmac at least.

And Burri also in monte has experieence...so.

[Iskald]

Henning and Wilson have entered, 20 wrc, 15 s2000, I think it's the best start list since 2003 or something

Trying to sound not to pompous: What did I say?
Anyway, this proves that when a german website (or any nationality) "states" anything about different drivers participation in rallies, or for that matter bowel movements or love life, its very seldom based on reliable sources or facts. Rallye-magazin.de is just like the others, a bunch of uninformed clowns qouting rumours or speculation.
@Vargåsen, I think you are correct about 2003, when something like 28 WRC`s competed. Tord Linnerud/Yours Truly finished the rally in 19th place in our Toyota Corolla WRC, in front of Jari Viita/T. Laine Ford Focus WRC, while first Gr. N car on the overall list was Kenneth Bäcklund (Mitsubishi) in 21st place. 2003 Swedish Rally was indeed a great event when it came to entries and competition!

[N.O.T]

a bunch of uninformed clowns qouting rumours or speculation.


another word for this is "journalists"... they are all the same.

[Iskald]

another word for this is "journalists"... they are all the same.

Maybe not all of them...but I understand what you are saying!
I have been a journalist since I completed my university degree in journalism in 1979. ;-)

[Viking]

Trying to sound not to pompous: What did I say?
Anyway, this proves that when a german website (or any nationality) "states" anything about different drivers participation in rallies, or for that matter bowel movements or love life, its very seldom based on reliable sources or facts. Rallye-magazin.de is just like the others, a bunch of uninformed clowns qouting rumours or speculation.
@Vargåsen, I think you are correct about 2003, when something like 28 WRC`s competed. Tord Linnerud/Yours Truly finished the rally in 19th place in our Toyota Corolla WRC, in front of Jari Viita/T. Laine Ford Focus WRC, while first Gr. N car on the overall list was Kenneth Bäcklund (Mitsubishi) in 21st place. 2003 Swedish Rally was indeed a great event when it came to entries and competition!

Iskald, you did not succeed, you are sounding pompous ;)



another word for this is "journalists"... they are all the same.

:D

[Priorat]

Good entry list but I think Norway 2007 and even Sweden 2007 was better

[Sulland]

yes sorry i ment the s2000s cars in general...not just the SWRC championship ones.

But dont you think it is better that the gentleman driver are in S2000 than in a WRCar, or NOT?

[N.O.T]

But dont you think it is better that the gentleman driver are in S2000 than in a WRCar, or NOT?

of course...

[noel157]

Good entry list but I think Norway 2007 and even Sweden 2007 was better

Monte 1986 was good too ..... :)

[tolis]

That's a post for N.O.T....
Al Rajhi tested for Rally Sweden

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/376164_332250406796884_160037174018209_1138501_656 402701_n.jpg

[N.O.T]

and what about weng ?

[tolis]

and what about weng ?
He'll have a test later this month.... I'll keep you informed... Don't worry!

[Barreis]

Never heard for that guy. Who is he?

[carmichael]

weng? like about best chinese rally driver. am i right?

[N.O.T]

Weng is another tourist with magic powers...

[focus206]

Hans-Erik Weng, he's Swedish ;)

[N.O.T]

he confused him with that chinese person from rally GB...

not big difference in skills though.

[SubaruNorway]

he confused him with that chinese person from rally GB...

not big difference in skills though.

Which unfortunately is dead...

[N.O.T]

indeed...

and his name was Dong...

Alcholol poisoning...

[focus206]

Or maybe he is confusing with Wang, who did the PWRC in 2010.
Anyway, why we started talking about Weng? He did something special?

[N.O.T]

Or maybe he is confusing with Wang, who did the PWRC in 2010.
Anyway, why we started talking about Weng? He did something special?

magic powers...along with Al Railhjl

[satnav]

Rally Guide 2 is now on the Official web site maps and all .

Documents « Rally Sweden (http://www.rallysweden.com/competitors/documents?lang=en)

[carmichael]

Or maybe he is confusing with Wang, who did the PWRC in 2010.
Anyway, why we started talking about Weng? He did something special?
yeah i meant him. sorry for confusion.

[Roy]

All what you must know about
Weng eWRC-results.com - profile Hans-Erik Weng (http://www.ewrc-results.com/profile.php?p=219&t=Hans-Erik-Weng)
and Wang eWRC-results.com - profile Rui Wang (http://www.ewrc-results.com/profile.php?p=980&t=Rui-Wang)

and of course Yazeed Al-Rajhi eWRC-results.com - profile Yazeed Al-Rajhi (http://www.ewrc-results.com/profile.php?p=3273&t=Yazeed-Al-Rajhi)

:D ;)

[Priorat]

Monte 1986 was good too ..... :)
Yes, there have been many better entry lists. I mentioned those from 2007 because some posts before, people said that 2012 was best entry list since 2003

[Vargåsen]

Yes, there have been many better entry lists. I mentioned those from 2007 because some posts before, people said that 2012 was best entry list since 2003

I checked the 2007 Swedish rally entry list now, and it was better than I remembered.

But it is a great entry list for this year anyhow, with many fast "new" guys in wrc-cars (Tänak, Neuville, Sandell, Ketomaa, Prokop) which should keep the tourists out of the top ten at least.

One thing which will be strange this year is standing in the forest friday morning waiting for the first car. This has always been my favourite moment in a rally.

But instead of hearing and seeing Sebastien Loeb flying through the corner (which has been the case in Sweden almost every year lately) it will probably be Pablo Nobre. The question is if he will be as impressive.

[ProRally]

How is the snow situation now, less then 1 month before the start ?

[jbmarcus21]

#WRC Rally Sweden Google Earth Map 2012 is now online Programme du Rallye Wrc de Suède 2012 (http://t.co/OkUpPwwO)

[Salist]

Many thanks Jeremie!

[jbmarcus21]

;) ;)

[hari]

How is the snow situation now, less then 1 month before the start ?

Here is some webcam in Hagfors: HAGFORS (http://213.164.223.114/)

Overview about snow depth: Snödjup - SMHI | SMHI (http://www.smhi.se/klimatdata/meteorologi/sno/snodjup-2.722)

[Salist]

Another webcams:
Sunne (http://www.webcams-schweden.de/html/sunne.php)
Torsby 1 (http://www.bildersammlung.ch/torsby-webcam-live-wetter-webcam-torsby-live-cam-sysslebaeck-schweden/webcam.php) , Torsby 2 (http://hu.webcams.travel/webcam/1290949099-Weather-Hagfors-Torsby-Två)
Stockholm - Arlanda Airport (http://webbkameror.se/byggkameror/ncc/arlanda/index.php)
Karlstad (http://hu.webcams.travel/webcam/1234294571-Weather-centrum-till-kalrstad-Karlstad)

[ProRally]

Not a lot of snow on the webcams :-(

[N.O.T]

snow is not a major factor...the biggest problem is if we do not have ice...

but still long before the rally, 2-3 days of bad weather is enough to have good winter conditions.

[cali]

Snow is major factor as well, without snowbanks drivers need different lines. With snowbanks you can lean the back of the car against them ...

[Rallyper]

snow is not a major factor...the biggest problem is if we do not have ice...

but still long before the rally, 2-3 days of bad weather is enough to have good winter conditions.

Last two winters RS did not have any ice on the stages I visited. Very much snow. And hard snow surface which was gone after ten cars. There´s no problems except for lack of cold I´d say. Just different ways to tackle the rally.

[Vargåsen]

Picture from the Vargåsen stage, alongside lake Jangen, taken today, there is a thick layer of ice on most parts of the stage, but not more than 5 cm snow. 2888

[BleAivano]

Another webcams:
Sunne (http://www.webcams-schweden.de/html/sunne.php)
Torsby 1 (http://www.bildersammlung.ch/torsby-webcam-live-wetter-webcam-torsby-live-cam-sysslebaeck-schweden/webcam.php) , Torsby 2 (http://hu.webcams.travel/webcam/1290949099-Weather-Hagfors-Torsby-Tv%C3%A5)
Stockholm - Arlanda Airport (http://webbkameror.se/byggkameror/ncc/arlanda/index.php)
Karlstad (http://hu.webcams.travel/webcam/1234294571-Weather-centrum-till-kalrstad-Karlstad)

good but in all fairness and respect, Stockholm-Arlanda is situated on the east coast,
several 100kms from Hagfors. So i wouldn't judge the rallyconditions from it, ;)

[Red bull]

Alister McRae's World Rally Championship return confirmed for Sweden - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97037)

[Iskald]

Snow is major factor as well, without snowbanks drivers need different lines. With snowbanks you can lean the back of the car against them ...

Snow is definitely not a "major" factor! A winter rally depends first and foremost of a proper ice surface. Without ice it will be a gravel rally (frozen or muddy), which is a totally diferent matter. But this year I think Rally Sweden will have icecovered roads, anyway the conditions for the friday in Norway looks perfect at the moment. Its not a lot of snow, but proper ice surface on the roads.

[mousti]

So no Kuipers in Sweden then? Why testing in snow then?? :s

[BleAivano]

Last two winters RS did not have any ice on the stages I visited. Very much snow. And hard snow surface which was gone after ten cars.
There´s no problems except for lack of cold I´d say. Just different ways to tackle the rally.

I was at Fredriksberg last year, at the ice on the road actually stayed good, it looked good even when we left after the first loop.

[hari]

I was at Fredriksberg last year, at the ice on the road actually stayed good, it looked good even when we left after the first loop.

Also on Likenas stage was a nice thick layer of ice last year.

[Rallyper]

I might forgot last year. Maybe you´re right about 2011. But the year before was very much snow but only gravel under the layer of stamped snow.

[pantealex]

entrylist is out Rally Sweden (http://www.rallysweden.com)

[Barreis]

Nice entry list.

[J.Lindstroem]

Very good indeed. 21 Wrc-cars... Better than in many years!

[A.F.F.]

Among NORF, Rally Sweden used to be a playground for plenty privateer Finns..... not anymore :mark:

[Salist]

Nice...20 WRC and 13 S2000 cars.

[donlorean]

My friend planned about rally Sweden but he cancel it because it's so expensive. Lots of dry tarmac roads on road sections is bad for tires. For privateer it's too much...

[Micke_VOC]

Flodin have withdrawn his entry to Rally Sweden to focus on IRC instead.
The second wild card in SWRC will go to Marius Aasen instead. ( The first have Pontus Tidemand)

[Barreis]

Expect another Latvala's off.

[carmichael]

dont be so harsh on him!

[Barreis]

I'm not.

[A.F.F.]

My friend planned about rally Sweden but he cancel it because it's so expensive. Lots of dry tarmac roads on road sections is bad for tires. For privateer it's too much...

Care to reveal who? :)

[Langdale Forest]

Expect another Latvala's off.

What a patheic comment, Latvala won in Sweden in 2008.