Rallye Wrc Monte Carlo 2012

[jbmarcus21]

The program road is now out

Programme du Rallye Wrc Monte-Carlo 2012 (http://bit.ly/nrK8Td)

[N.O.T]

6 days of rallying...wow a true festival !!! but i think having 2 stages on 1 day and 1 stage on the final day might lead into cancellations and problems since the spectators have no choice to spread out on many stages......

[Barreis]

Longer route for Monte Carlo Rally in 2012 as it returns to World Rally Championship - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/92891)

[RS]

Nice schedule. Shame there are no proper stages live like in the last few years, that was one of the tv highlights of the year for me.

[Daniel]

6 days of rallying...wow a true festival !!! but i think having 2 stages on 1 day and 1 stage on the final day might lead into cancellations and problems since the spectators have no choice to spread out on many stages......

Agree. To me having 1 or two stages on a day in the middle of the rally or the last day of the rally isn't rallying either. But some don't seem to mind.

[Motorsportfun]

Agree. To me having 1 or two stages on a day in the middle of the rally or the last day of the rally isn't rallying either. But some don't seem to mind.

Olivier Quesnel in Imola (during the ILMC 6 Hours) told that North One Sport will make in Alsace a TV-test for the future web-tv!!! Who knows... =)

[Barreis]

Nice schedule. Shame there are no proper stages live like in the last few years, that was one of the tv highlights of the year for me.

+1

[Josti]

Obviously a fresh and encouraging approach, but it lacks enough stages to be a five-day event. Hope they crank it up even more in 2013.

[pino]

Time to get back to Monte then :D

[AndyRAC]

Not sure about the Power stage on the Sunday morning - why not finish it on the Saturday night? If there is only one stage live - it's hardly progress is it?
However, it's a start to hopefully a better WRC.

[Mirek]

I guess it's before the finish ceremony at the palace is always on Sunday around midday.

[Motorsportfun]

Not sure about the Power stage on the Sunday morning - why not finish it on the Saturday night? If there is only one stage live - it's hardly progress is it?
However, it's a start to hopefully a better WRC.

Maybe there's not only a stage broadcasted live...

[jbmarcus21]

#WRC Rallye Monte Carlo 2012 update program Programme du Rallye Wrc Monte-Carlo 2012 (http://bit.ly/nrK8Td)

[dimviii]

Rally Monte Carlo reveals full route for 2012 WRC event

Rally Monte Carlo reveals full route for 2012 WRC event - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/93390)

[N.O.T]

are those stage lenghts in miles ? or in Kms ? because if they are in miles then its going to be a huge event....very demanding...nice.

[Gregor-y]

Those are indeed some hefty stages if they really are listed in miles. Live coverage this year was better than anything I could have hoped for (along with Eurosport putting it on their website) and it's loss will be greatly missed. How many if any of these stages will be run at night? Along with some stages I thought that was one reason the organizers were happy with the IRC.

[Mirek]

Stages are basically same with IRC route, just driven almost all from those years, not only a selection.

SS1/3 and SS2/4 were run last year, also first day, just each one only once.
SS5/8 must be similar to the one run in last WRC years and twice in IRC (Sarrazin off at a bridge for example). SS6/9 is run every year. SS7/10 was run in previous years also, just not in 2010.
SS11 and SS12 should be same with last year (snow disaster) but mostly I don't like them as the majority is wide and too fast. SS13 is classic of previous years, always used as connection stage on the road from Valence to Monaco.
SS14/16 and SS15/17 is night classic around Turini. This year I can see only one section is in the dark and not so late...
I don't know the power stage.

[jbmarcus21]

Update program include kilometers and timetable special stage Programme du Rallye Wrc Monte-Carlo 2012 (http://bit.ly/nrK8Td)

[Gregor-y]

So they're all long stages (big plus), but only two will be around sundown and one (Turini, thank goodness) in the dark. Assuming everything runs on time, of course.

[rjbetty]

This is news to me. The Monte Carlo Rally is back? WAHOO!

[fastboy]

I have always wanted to spectate on the Monte,and have decide to do it next year for the first time.At the early stages of planning trip but something crossed my mind,do you need winter studded tyres fitted to hire car with the likely hood of ice and snow on the roads? , and do the hire car companies put winter tyres on as standard during winter or do you need to request them and pay extra?

[Barreis]

No studded tyres. They want profit so you'll have car with winter tyres.

[danon]

I have always wanted to spectate on the Monte... do you need winter studded tyres...

No need for studded tires.
Winter tires are more than sufficient combined with driving skills.
Take a few pro lessons and you'll be the conqueror of Col de Turini :champion:

[wwbroe]

You absolutely need winter tyres, no need for studs tough. Th problem is that most rental company's don't put those tyres on their vehicle's. Only if you do renting in for example Grenoble they put them standard on the car. Mostly you will have to ask for them and pay extra. ;)

[danon]

A bird's eye view:

WRC 2012 Rally Monte Carlo :D ay 1 SS01/03 "Le Moulinon/Antraigues" - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q5PG7CrB0w)

WRC 2012 Rally Monte Carlo :D ay 1 SS02/04 "Burzet/St Martial" - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xiAcdD7Mjw)

WRC 2012 Rally Monte Carlo: Shakedown in "VALENCE" - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2X3ZR7-92w)

[Daniel]

I have always wanted to spectate on the Monte,and have decide to do it next year for the first time.At the early stages of planning trip but something crossed my mind,do you need winter studded tyres fitted to hire car with the likely hood of ice and snow on the roads? , and do the hire car companies put winter tyres on as standard during winter or do you need to request them and pay extra?

Buy winter tyres for your own car and drive down :) We've got winter tyres on our Fiat 500 and I spent a good part of November and December last year driving around people as if they were on slicks on the Col de Turini in the snow and I was on studded tyres.

[papar007]

Any map?

[Mintexmemory]

Buy winter tyres for your own car and drive down :) We've got winter tyres on our Fiat 500 and I spent a good part of November and December last year driving around people as if they were on slicks on the Col de Turini in the snow and I was on studded tyres.
Nice idea D but most of us are on tight budgets and restricted time that makes a cheap flight to Lyon and back from Nice with a cheap hire car the most attractive option. I could buy winter tyres but then there's the ferries, the petrol and the tolls to get to Valence and worst of all - 13hours driving to get back to Pas de Calais from Monaco

[Mitch555]

Is there any tour companies doing the full Monte Carlo? Rallytravel isn't doing Shakedown or the first two days which is annoying since they have rooms at the famous Col de Turini hotel.

Looking at a few of us Aussies going up to experience the best rally in a long time with a huge entry list (combined WRC/IRC). Is it hard for first timers who can only speak English to get good spectating positions to get around the rally? Anyone got some experiences to help me? :)

[Mirek]

It is only WRC, no IRC in 2012... But anyway it will be good rally for sure :)

The biggest problem for newcomer is the lack of access roads in the mountains. There is only few of them and those could be full of spectator cars. In last three years it was ok except roads to Turini which I recommend to take very very soon not to remain stuck somewhere (I think the absence of WRC cars plus stages held in working days helped this issue). Stages being closed I think 2-3 hours before start depending on stage, maybe with WRC it will be more.

Generally You can't choose much possibilities to access stages, so You have to either drive the stages before they are closed and choose a place You like. Or to drive any access road and than walk through the stage (usually no problem with that even quite short time before start). The good thing is that the route will be very similar to IRC years so it's possible to identify many places in videos. But there is still a lot of time...

[jiipee64]

Just booked flights and hotels... :D

[bluuford]

I bring this topic back to the page nr1, because it is almost exactly 2 months from today to the rally:-)
It will be part of SWRC and PWRC. So, soon we can start compiling the entry list for the event.

[tolis]

Craig Breen is almost sure.

[T.Maanteiden kuningas]

No need for studded tires.
Winter tires are more than sufficient combined with driving skills.
Take a few pro lessons and you'll be the conqueror of Col de Turini :champion:

Okay, welcome to Finland in winter and show us driving without winter tires. Here is allso "drivers" without suitable tires, but normally they will crash.

[Mirek]

The 3 months old quote was about spectating. You really don't need studs to spectate Rally Monte Carlo. I also don't think that Monte Carlo is run in Finland.

[omer yetis]

Hi guys!

planning to go to MC and would be very happy if can have some help/suggestion for a hotel with a reasonable price.
highly appreciated for any other tips & suggestions for this rally since will be my first time to visit.

thanks
Omer

[wwbroe]

Hi guys!

planning to go to MC and would be very happy if can have some help/suggestion for a hotel with a reasonable price.
highly appreciated for any other tips & suggestions for this rally since will be my first time to visit.

thanks
Omer

In Valence you can find easily hotels on reasonable price, example's are B&B hotels, Campanille, Etap, Ibis etc... The only thing is that you have to book them in time. For the last night you can find a hotel in Menton, wich is not far from Monaco and same kind of price like in Valence. From there it isn't so far to stages like Turini.

[noel157]

Craig Breen is almost sure.

Breen's season will start with RMC.

[omer yetis]

In Valence you can find easily hotels on reasonable price, example's are B&B hotels, Campanille, Etap, Ibis etc... The only thing is that you have to book them in time. For the last night you can find a hotel in Menton, wich is not far from Monaco and same kind of price like in Valence. From there it isn't so far to stages like Turini.

thank you very much!

[RS]

Hope this event will continue to be a highlight of the year as it has been for the last few and not just another WRC event..

Any news/rumours of any "special" entries yet or live tv?

[AndyRAC]

Hope this event will continue to be a highlight of the year as it has been for the last few and not just another WRC event..

Any news/rumours of any "special" entries yet or live tv?

It's funny you say that - I was thinking that the other day. The entry this year was great - I doubt there will be 'special' entries - the WRCars cost too much.

[Mirek]

At least there is also SWRC and PWRC, so good and rather large entries are granted ;)

[Barreis]

Can't wait for the start.

[HaCo]

Really? Who will beat Loeb?

Completely different feeling from last year: who would have predicted Monte results in 2011?

[bluuford]

Well, just noticed that we have around two weeks until the closing date for entries. Still not much news. Those seems to be pretty sure:

WRC
1. Loeb DS3 WRC
2. Hirvonen DS3 WRC
3. Latvala Fiesta WRC
4. Tänak Fiesta WRC
5. Ostberg Fiesta WRC
6. Prokop Fiesta WRC
7. Oliveira Fiesta WRC
8. Sordo Mini WRC
9. Meeke Mini WRC
10. Araujo Mini WRC
?Block Fiesta WRC
?Solberg, H. Fiesta WRC
?Solberg, P. Fiesta WRC
?Kuipers Fiesta WRC
?Pedrosoli DS3 WRC
?Merksteijn ???
?Novikov?? Was there any relation with his funding and Antonov?

S2000
1. Ogier Skoda
2. Mikkelsen Skoda
3. Neuville Peugeot
4. Breen Ford
5. Llovera Fiat
6. Gassner Skoda
7. Paddon? ?????
8. Kruuda? ?????
9. Andersson Proton
10. Maurin Ford
11. Kaur??
12. Flodin?
13. Sousa?


PWRC
1. Neiksans
2. Mentos 1
3. Mentos 2
4. Mentos 3
5. Grjazin???
6. Ligato???

More questions than answers:-)

[dimviii]

seems that swrc will be more interesting this year.Hope Neuville-Ogier-Mikkelsen to keep us nervous till last stages.

[mousti]

U forget Hanninen with Skoda..

[dimviii]

U forget Hanninen with Skoda..

right! even better now!

[Ezhik]

Well, just noticed that we have around two weeks until the closing date for entries. Still not much news. Those seems to be pretty sure:

WRC

?Novikov?? Was there any relation with his funding and Antonov?

There isn't any relation, because they haven't seen eachother at all


PWRC

5. Grjazin???

He would compete in 2012 in WRC Academy, in Russian Rally Championship and Rassian Rally Cup with Lancer Evo IX R4. If he will have a time, he will also start in some Baltic events

[tolis]

@bluuford: You are forgetting Nobre in a Mini.
Are Mikkelsen, Neuville, Llovera and Andersson sure for SWRC ,or should we put a "?"
Russian Nikita Philipov is sure for PWRC next year in an URT Subaru Impreza N15. Fuchs is also interested in PWRC for 2012.

[pucky54]

U forget Hanninen with Skoda..

I thought Skoda quit SWRC and is just doing IRC, Czech champ. and some ERC events

[bluuford]

@bluuford: You are forgetting Nobre in a Mini.
Are Mikkelsen, Neuville, Llovera and Andersson sure for SWRC ,or should we put a "?"
Russian Nikita Philipov is sure for PWRC next year in an URT Subaru Impreza N15. Fuchs is also interested in PWRC for 2012.

I remember that Llovera promised to be back in 2012 and somewhere he said that he had program until the end of 2012.

The others are not sure, but pretty good possibility :-)

[Bartolbia84]

There is also talk of Neuville on a DS3 WRC for some races, should always be Nobre WRC WRC on a Mini, the pilot of Qatar Al Attiyad but the race in Sweden and Finland should take Ketomaa 6 WRC events.

[Mirek]

I heard Škoda would not defend SWRC title but I don't know if it is true (maybe not to fight directly with VW crews?). I also heard same rumor about Neuville in DS3 WRC. Let's see...

Anyway I think that Sarrazin and Bouffier will be there.

[had_zachau]

Francois Delecour will drive with Ford Fiesta WRC. The car will be in same specifications as car of JML.

[Francis44]

Francois Delecour will drive with Ford Fiesta WRC. The car will be in same specifications as car of JML.

So this pretty much tells Ford wont be in official level in the championship next year.

[Viking]

So this pretty much tells Ford wont be in official level in the championship next year.

Na, guess it comes from this article

"Delecour will again be backed by the Romanian government under the Visit Romania banner and will run the latest-spec Fiesta WRC."

MaxRally | News | Delecour secures Ford seat for Monte (http://www.maxrally.com/news/entry/delecour_secures_ford_seat_for_monte/)

[Jordib]

I remember that Llovera promised to be back in 2012 and somewhere he said that he had program until the end of 2012.

The others are not sure, but pretty good possibility :-)

He said probably will be in SWRC 2012 but NOT in the same car, i don't know wich one but for sure not the Fiat Punto he has used until now.

[RS]

Anyway I think that Sarrazin and Bouffier will be there.

With 207s?

[Plan9]

I heard Škoda would not defend SWRC title but I don't know if it is true (maybe not to fight directly with VW crews?). I also heard same rumor about Neuville in DS3 WRC. Let's see...

Anyway I think that Sarrazin and Bouffier will be there.

I thought that the VW drivers would actually be entered as the official Skoda team for 2012? It would be mad otherwise, the skoda team for this year would have been murdered is they had to go against Juho, Andreas and Seb O.

I hope that Sarrazin and Bouffier get more than 1 drive in the DS3; it would be nice to have a 1990s feel again with "tarmac specialists" that always sounded exciting.

[Mirek]

VW cars will be entered by VW Motorsport. Škoda Motorsport and VW Motorsport are completely different teams although VW now uses Fabias.

[mousti]

Sarrazin and Bouffier will be in 207's. They got Loeb to win the overall classification.

[Barreis]

Thursday 22 december 2011
Closing date for entries
Monday 2 january 2012
Road book issuing and list of entries accepted published
(subject to FIA approval).
Can't wait for action.

[satnav]

Rally Guide 2 should have been issued yesterday the 16th according to Rally Guide 1 and the Regs but there's no sign of it yet.

[rzaX]

Sarrazin and Bouffier will be in 207's. They got Loeb to win the overall classification.

Are you sure ?

[mousti]

No but it's very possible, if they start it will be with 207's none else, wouldn't make any sense to put them in a WRC or something else.

[Plan9]

Who will partner Ogier in Monte Carlo? Will VW-Skoda enter another car?

[Mirek]

I believe it's Mikkelsen.

[darkstar]

there were rumours some time ago here in germany, that wiegand might do monte with vw skoda.

[Mirek]

I don't know if Mikkelsen will be in VW or Škoda UK colors but he will be there.

[CWJ]

there were rumours some time ago here in germany, that wiegand might do monte with vw skoda.

I dont think so and it would be the wrong playground for a startup in my opinion.

[darkstar]

i´m not sure if it´s a good idea, thats right. but that was what i heard from a quite proper source. but he also said that´s nothing shure yet and its already some month or so ago.

[SubaruNorway]

Unless they got the recce of the three stages on saturday moved Mikkelsen won't to MC as it's on the same day as the first Norwegian rally and he's entered there.

[VFTS]

I believe it's Mikkelsen.

Change in plans, he will not do Monte, he will do the Mountain Rally in Norway saturday 14.jan.
He will have snow tests before Rally Sweden

[darkstar]

this atricle says that abbring probably will do monte for vw: VW-Junior bei Skoda Deutschland*:: rallye-magazin.de (http://www.rallye-magazin.de/rallyes/wm/nachrichten/news-detail/d/2011/12/18/vw-junior-bei-skoda-deutschland/index.html)

translation: Google Übersetzer (http://translate.google.de/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallye-magazin.de%2Frallyes%2Fwm%2Fnachrichten%2Fnews-detail%2Fd%2F2011%2F12%2F18%2Fvw-junior-bei-skoda-deutschland%2Findex.html&sl=de&tl=en&hl=&ie=UTF-8)

it also says that wiegand will probably drive all irc rounds with the skoda germany team in 2012 and south african rallye championchip too, to get gravel experience. mikkelsen going to do sweden.

as it seems wallenwein and kahle wont be with skoda germany then anymore.

[Mirek]

Change in plans, he will not do Monte, he will do the Mountain Rally in Norway saturday 14.jan.
He will have snow tests before Rally Sweden

Thank You. I didn't now that.

[mousti]

Abbring is rumoured to team up with Ogier in Monte.

[SubaruNorway]

Will they be using any roads that are sure to have snow this year?

[Mirek]

I doubt there are any such roads in France except few passes in the Alps. The route is almost same with last three IRC seasons (all stages except power stage and shakedown were used at least once in IRC).

[amilk]

maybe time to forecast some entry list on WRC level - if any info please update

Loeb
Hirvonen
Latvala
Solberg P
Sordo
Meeke
Tanak
Ostberg
Novikov

[Elayne]

Prokop
Delecour

[jbmarcus21]

#WRC Rallye Monte-Carlo 2012 Google Earth Map is now out Programme du Rallye Wrc Monte-Carlo 2012 (http://t.co/ZbtuLaNz)

[J.Lindstroem]

Confirmed:

Citroen
Loeb
Hirvonen
Neuville
Novikov?

Ford
Latvala
Solberg P
Tanak
Ostberg
Prokop
Oliveira
Delecour
Novikov?

Mini (Not 100% though)
Sordo
Meeke
Araujo

[mousti]

Maurin is now also rumored with a Fiesta WRC

[PLuto]

Video from test of Bryan Bouffier with new Peugeot Evo before Monte - www.AutoSport.CZ (http://forum.autosport.cz/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=623&p=57529#p57529)

[mousti]

So Bryan we'll expect for sure, probably Sarrazin too, because without problems I think he'll be faster than Bouffier there.

[pucky54]

Question is: Will they fight with the WRC's?

[dimviii]

Video from test of Bryan Bouffier with new Peugeot Evo before Monte - www.AutoSport.CZ (http://forum.autosport.cz/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=623&p=57529#p57529)
very nice the wide 207!! probably the most beautiful s2000 imho

[RS]

Video from test of Bryan Bouffier with new Peugeot Evo before Monte - www.AutoSport.CZ (http://forum.autosport.cz/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=623&p=57529#p57529)

My advice is skip the first three minutes of that video (crappy music and no action) After that, it's good. More entertaining than the Mikko "point and squirt" video in the WRC testing thread.

[mousti]

Question is: Will they fight with the WRC's?
Why would they ? There goal is to win the S2000 class, PSA is already thinking that Loeb will win for sure the Overall classification. It must be an all PSA party :)

[Plan9]

Why isn't Peter Van M Jr doing this event?

[noel157]

P-G and Basso for S-WRC in Proton:

Proton to enter S2000 WRC next year - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/96810)

[Andrey]

Today confirmed, that Novikov will stay with Ford

[Bartolbia84]

Maurin Fiesta WRC??

[noel157]

Think he was talking about a WRC, no? Funding obviously won't be an issue.

[Tom206wrc]

Why Abbring in a Skoda Fabia S2000 :confused: I thought he was pleased with his test in the DS3 WRC ??? And he won the Citroën Racing Gravel Trophy in France too :confused:

[mousti]

It's not as easy like that, there are so many things going on what we don't see.. I just hope Abbring gets a improvement on his program I don't think a season again in the French Gravel Championship with the DS3 R3T will help him much forward..

[alleskids]

Why Abbring in a Skoda Fabia S2000 :confused: I thought he was pleased with his test in the DS3 WRC ??? And he won the Citroën Racing Gravel Trophy in France too :confused:

Abbring in the Skoda in Monte Carlo is with VW Motorsport. Volkswagen gives him an other change to impress the team. He is also looking at Citroen, at the second seat in the Citroen Junior team. But does he have a future with PSA, as they have already Neuville to be the second (third) Loeb and have the future of Peugeot/Citroen on his shoulder. But his changes with VW are also smal, when they have Mikkelsen and probarly Wiegand.

Abbring has to get an international program to take up the compettition for <young talented driver with changes of a work seat>

[Tom206wrc]

It's not as easy like that, there are so many things going on what we don't see.. I just hope Abbring gets a improvement on his program I don't think a season again in the French Gravel Championship with the DS3 R3T will help him much forward..

Rumour was about french tarmac, not gravel anymore, for 2012 ;)

[Barreis]

Today was last day for entries.

[PLuto]

Kevin Abbring confirmed for VW on Monte: Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=13170)

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/ebec99e5e1c403880e7f98945bfaec0a.jpg

[had_zachau]

Armindo Araujo will drive RMC with MINI WRC.

[Sulland]

Today was last day for entries.

So when can we expect the first entrylist?

[noel157]

So when can we expect the first entrylist?

December 27th I think.

[Barreis]

2nd of january is on the official web.

[noel157]

As expected Maurin has confirmed WRC entry in, surprise, surprise, a Fiesta.
There's a link somewhere but..........

Also Paulo Nobre confirms his programme in the Mini, all rounds starting RMC.

[tolis]

Also Paulo Nobre confirms his programme in the Mini, all rounds starting RMC.
Nobre anuncia participação integral no WRC em 2012 com Mini - Grande Prêmio / Rali - IG (http://grandepremio.ig.com.br/outrascategorias/rali/2011/12/23/nobre+anuncia+participacao+integral+no+wrc+em+2012 +com+um+mini+10541751.html)

[EightGear]

Has anyone heard anything about Dennis Kuipers? It's very silent around him lately.

[mousti]

I think he'll not drive, because the ouvreurs team of van Merksteijn Jr is consisting of Pieter Tsjoen and Fred Miclotte.

[EightGear]

I think he'll not drive, because the ouvreurs team of van Merksteijn Jr is consisting of Pieter Tsjoen and Fred Miclotte.


Ok, would be a shame then. He's much better than Van Merksteijn, and a lot better than Van Merksteijn sr. Hopefully he'll be back later in the season.

[adr17]

I think he'll not drive, because the ouvreurs team of van Merksteijn Jr is consisting of Pieter Tsjoen and Fred Miclotte.

what s ouvreurs team mean?

ehat is pieter tsjoen and fred s plan s

[Mirek]

That means ice crew.

By the way Jaro Melichárek from Slovakia with 207 S2000 from Tagai Racing Technology.
Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=13174)

[danon]

...

Also Paulo Nobre confirms his programme in the Mini, all rounds starting RMC.

Quote: The Brazilian aligns quite a budget for a complete season :arrow: Paulo Nobre : toutes les manches 2012 (http://www.worldrallyisfree.com/2011/12/26/paulo-nobre-toutes-les-manches-2012/)

Money talks... :D

[tolis]

So, we have so far confirmed:

Citroen DS3 WRC
Loeb
Hirvonen
Neuville
Vn Merksteijn jr?

Ford Fiesta WRC
Latvala
P.Solberg
Tanak
Prokop
Novikov
Ostberg?

Mini John Cooper Works WRC
Sordo
Campana
Nobre
Araujo

Skoda Fabia S2000
Abbring
Ogier

Ford Fiesta S2000
Breen

Ford Fiesta 1.6T
Al Rajhi

Proton Satria S2000
PG Andersson
Basso

Peugeot 207 S2000
Melicharek

Any 2WD entries?

[pucky54]

Maurin Fiesta WRC

[RICARDO75]

Bouffier and Sarrazin with the new Peugeot?

[N.O.T]

too much talk and rumours on this entry list and too many questionmarks althoough you use the word confirmed.... Lets hope the enrty list does not end up like the Madeira rallies entry lists of the last few years...

[Co-driven]

So, we have so far confirmed:

Citroen DS3 WRC
Loeb
Hirvonen
Neuville
Vn Merksteijn jr?

Ford Fiesta WRC
Latvala
P.Solberg
Tanak
Prokop
Novikov
Ostberg?

Mini John Cooper Works WRC
Sordo
Campana
Nobre
Araujo

Skoda Fabia S2000
Abbring
Ogier

Ford Fiesta S2000
Breen

Ford Fiesta 1.6T
Al Rajhi

Proton Satria S2000
PG Andersson
Basso

Peugeot 207 S2000
Melicharek

Any 2WD entries?


I think there is also Oliveira with a Fiesta WRC with the Brazil WRT.

[had_zachau]

From 2WD you forgot czech driver Martin Rada with Alfa Romeo 147

[adr17]

So, we have so far confirmed:

Citroen DS3 WRC
Loeb
Hirvonen
Neuville
Vn Merksteijn jr?

Ford Fiesta WRC
Latvala
P.Solberg
Tanak
Prokop
Novikov
Ostberg?

Mini John Cooper Works WRC
Sordo
Campana
Nobre
Araujo

Skoda Fabia S2000
Abbring
Ogier

Ford Fiesta S2000
Breen

Ford Fiesta 1.6T
Al Rajhi

Proton Satria S2000
PG Andersson
Basso

Peugeot 207 S2000
Melicharek

Any 2WD entries?



delecour fiesta wrc

[tolis]

Citroen DS3 WRC
Loeb
Hirvonen
Neuville
Vn Merksteijn jr?

Ford Fiesta WRC
Latvala
P.Solberg
Tanak
Prokop
Novikov
Ostberg
Delecour
Oliveira
Maurin


Mini John Cooper Works WRC
Sordo
Campana
Nobre
Araujo

Skoda Fabia S2000
Abbring
Ogier

Ford Fiesta S2000
Breen

Ford Fiesta 1.6T
Al Rajhi

Proton Satria S2000
PG Andersson
Basso

Peugeot 207 S2000
Melicharek
Bouffier
Sarrazin

Rada (Alfa Romeo 147)

Thanks for the info guys!
Sorry NOT! :D

[alleskids]

Van Merksteijn will not be in Monte carlo. Their program with the Citroen junior team starts later in the year

[AP-Racing]

Van Merksteijn will not be in Monte carlo. Their program with the Citroen junior team starts later in the year

Really??? Strange. I told with Eddie two weeks ago, he said what he coming on Monte

[MartijnS]

Eddy is going, thats for sure ;) I don't know with who, but probably van Merksteijn..

[MJW]

List of Monte entries is out: Delecour, Novikov and Tanak to drive M-Sport Ford WRT entries. Matt Wilson in Fiesta entered in his own name, entries shows Sordo in Mini no. 37, Campana in 52.Other notable Monte entries: Neuville and Van Merkstein in PH Sport Citroen DS3s, Henning Solberg in private-entered Fiesta.

[alleskids]

A nice surprice then seeing Van Merksteijn on the entrylist. Junior or senior?

[MJW]

A nice surprice then seeing Van Merksteijn on the entrylist. Junior or senior? dont know - saw in on Motorsport News' Twitter page Verglas @MNRally on twitter

[focus206]

List of Monte entries is out: Delecour, Novikov and Tanak to drive M-Sport Ford WRT entries. Matt Wilson in Fiesta entered in his own name, entries shows Sordo in Mini no. 37, Campana in 52.Other notable Monte entries: Neuville and Van Merkstein in PH Sport Citroen DS3s, Henning Solberg in private-entered Fiesta.

No Ostberg? :confused:

[had_zachau]

List of entries on rally-mania (http://www.rally-mania.cz/news.php?id=12264)

[N.O.T]

Matt Wilson in Fiesta entered in his own name

nice to see that the money from the renewal of the ford factory are gong to a good cause...another year of tears for the ford kids.

[EightGear]

List of entries on rally-mania (http://www.rally-mania.cz/news.php?id=12264)


Lol, Abbring is German!?

[Mirek]

There are many mistakes there like Latvola = Laivola etc.

[noel157]

Selection of confirmed entries:

Loeb - DS3 WRC
Hirvonen - DS3 WRC
Neuville - DS3 WRC
Latvala - Fiesta WRC
P. Solberg - WRC Fiesta
Tanaka - Fiesta WRC
Novikov - Fiesta WRC
Delecour - Fiesta WRC
Sordo - Mini WRC
Araujo - Mini WRC
Campana - Mini WRC
Nobre - Mini WRC
Maurin - Fiesta WRC
Prokop - Fiesta WRC
Al-Rajhi - Fiesta RRC
Ogier - Fabia S2000
Abbring - Fabia S2000
Breen - Fiesta S2000
Andersson - Proton S2000
Basso - Proton S2000
Poutot - Fiesta S2000
Melichárek - 207 S2000
Dumas - Lancer Evo
Latour - DS3 R3
Ressegaire - Clio R3
Fontaine - Clio R3
Sias - 207 RC
Cornu - Mégane RS
Boland - Evo X
Wilson - Fiesta WRC

[had_zachau]

There are many mistakes there like Latvola = Laivola etc.

I see. First to read than post it to the forum

[Andre Oliveira]

In the list Maurin is class 2 not WRC.

[SubaruNorway]

Mads is skipping Monte Carlo, will be back in Sweden.

[MJW]

Mads is skipping Monte Carlo, will be back in Sweden.
With a Fiesta? Or Mini?

[noel157]

A bigger version with the same mistakes:

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/fileadmin/pdf/monte2012.pdf

[tolis]

Ogier is seeded as a priority driver "3". Is this a sign that he may do SWRC or not?

[pucky54]

Ogier is seeded as a priority driver "3". Is this a sign that he may do SWRC or not?

If he has prio 3, he has to do SWRC

[darkstar]

arzeno in the 207 s2000 will be interesting!

[pettersolberg29]

No Sarrazin then. Anyone know what number the Ford's will be? JML at 3, Petter at 4 I suppose?

[bluuford]

If he has prio 3, he has to do SWRC

11.3 THIRD PRIORITY DRIVERS (P3)
11.3.1 Drivers who are eligible to score points on rallies of the Support Championships.
11.3.2 Exceptionally, drivers of Classes 2 or 3 cars proposed by an organiser to the FIA and whose
entry is supported by a letter from the drivers’ ASN and whose results justify P3 inclusion. As directed by
the FIA, these drivers must then comply with the rules pertaining to SWRC or PWRC.

He might be Wild card?

and rules regadring testing:
66.4 TEST RESTRICTIONS FOR P3 DRIVERS
P3 drivers are prohibited from testing in a country of a Championship round during the three weeks
preceding the rally except when:
- Such testing is mentioned in the supplementary regulations as part of the programme of the rally, or
- Approved in writing by the organiser to the FIA and open to all P3 drivers entered in the rally.
In either case, such testing shall be limited to one day at one venue unless otherwise approved by the FIA.

I could not findmore restrictions for SWRC drivers for 2012

[pucky54]

what I was about to say is: when you have Prio 3, you are entered in the supporting champ for this event. Yes, I guess it is wildcard as Abbring has not Prio 3

[pantealex]

Last year VW drivers were priority 2

[Barreis]

Today had chat with Piero Liatti (1997 winner), asked him if he would do some WRC outings just like F.Delacour is doing MC next month. He told me: "No, I'm old man now. :D " Just doing some job for new Italian hopes.

[Barreis]

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/fileadmin/pdf/monte2012.pdf
I found it first. :D

[pantealex]

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/fileadmin/pdf/monte2012.pdf
I found it first. :D

post #138

[mousti]

No Sarrazin although I thinke he would be faster than Bouffier! Al Rajhi also not on the list. Dumas with an Evo X

[noel157]

arzeno in the 207 s2000 will be interesting!

Will be interesting indeed. Look forward to his performance.

[N.O.T]

Al Rajhi also not on the list. Dumas with an Evo X

why you care ?

[Barreis]

Go Delacour.

[VFTS]

Where is Lotus?? They said some days ago that they should do MC
Is this the complete entrylist

[mousti]

why you care ?
Just saying dude. Al Rajhi is btw a cool guy and spectacular. And about Dumas I won't say anything it's clear about that, but you'll have a good answer on that that he's blablabla :D

@VFTS: It can't be the car isn't homologated yet.

[tolis]

Am I the only one who can't see Al Rajhi?

[focus206]

I also don't see Araujo... wasn't he confirmed at least for Monte?

[tolis]

Araujo is in. Have a look at the last page!

[focus206]

Araujo is in. Have a look at the last page!

Oh, right. It doesn't have "WRC" written under "Class" so I missed it ;)

[tolis]

So, only 3 crews are participating in the PWRC class for Monte... :(
Kosciuszko (Evo X)
Bertelli (Evo IX)
Cook (Fiesta ST)
Is Superally allowed or not?

[Mirek]

Where is Lotus?? They said some days ago that they should do MC

Lotus homologation is scheduled to 1st April.

[pucky54]

So, only 3 crews are participating in the PWRC class for Monte... :(
Kosciuszko (Evo X)
Bertelli (Evo IX)
Cook (Fiesta ST)
Is Superally allowed or not?

No Superally

[tolis]

Thx pucky!

[mousti]

Louise Cook in PWRC ?? lol

[tolis]

Louise Cook in PWRC ?? lol
Yes! :)

[harriswrc]

So, only 3 crews are participating in the PWRC class for Monte... :(
Kosciuszko (Evo X)
Bertelli (Evo IX)
Cook (Fiesta ST)
Is Superally allowed or not?I think that there will be some more PWRC entries at Monte. Nicolas Fuchs most likely will compete in Championship and also 1 or 2 wildcards.

[MikeD]

A couple of observations...

1.) Prokop has priority 1 so I gues his team (Czech Ford National Team) is nominated for Manufacturers points.

2.) Henning Solberg and Wilson have prioty 1 which should indicate they are nominated for Manufacturers points .... but there is no Team name ???

3.) Paulo Nobre has not yet chosen a car...Ford or MINI?

[N.O.T]

why you care he cares?

because this is a thread about rally monte carlo not for people who go there to watch the scenery.

[gregwrc]

So, we have so far confirmed:


Ford Fiesta 1.6T
Al Rajhi


toli did you mean that Al Rajhi will participate in Monte Carlo with Ford Fiesta RRC (http://www.m-sport.co.uk/index.php/motorsport/the-rally-cars/ford-fiesta-rrc)???

Αlso a greek crew will participate in Monte Carlo ----- Drivakos/Bante with Honda Civic....Good Luck !!!!!

[gregwrc]

toli did you mean that Al Rajhi will participate in Monte Carlo with Ford Fiesta RRC (http://www.m-sport.co.uk/index.php/motorsport/the-rally-cars/ford-fiesta-rrc)???

Αlso a greek crew will participate in Monte Carlo ----- Drivakos/Bante with Honda Civic....Good Luck !!!!!

confirmed

Liste des engagés Rallye Monte-Carlo 2012 (http://www.rallye-sport.fr/liste-des-engages-rallye-monte-carlo-2012/)

Al-Rajhi – Fiesta RRC

[tolis]

3.) Paulo Nobre has not yet chosen a car...Ford or MINI?
I'm sure it'll be a MINI!

[tolis]

confirmed

Liste des engagés Rallye Monte-Carlo 2012 (http://www.rallye-sport.fr/liste-des-engages-rallye-monte-carlo-2012/)

Al-Rajhi – Fiesta RRC
Hello Greg! It's not yet written in the provisional entry list that Al Rajhi will participate in Monte Carlo.
The Greek crew wanted to drive also last year, but they were cut due to many insciptions. Go Drivakos-Bante!!!! :)

[RS]

Nothing much special about the entry list but hopefully it will still be an interesting event.

[Hartusvuori]

Nothing much special about the entry list but hopefully it will still be an interesting event.

Yeah. Only Solberg's first event in Fiesta WRC, Hirvonen in red overall, Tänak on the attack and Delecour making a one-off comeback. Or Ogier making friends with Fabia S2000 and Neuville with DS3 WRC... ;-) Plus add the scenery as bonus!

[Mirek]

Nothing much special about the entry list but hopefully it will still be an interesting event.

I personally find it rather nice. Remember last WRC years before IRC with only 40-50 cars?

[SubaruNorway]

Rumors about Henning and Wilson in the same team with a new sponsor.

[N.O.T]

The entry list is very nice and i bet it will definately be among the best entries in 2012.

[N.O.T]

Rumors about Henning and Wilson in the same team with a new sponsor.

Forddevelopmentmoney.com i presume....

[Prisoner Monkeys]

Why doesn't the ACM have an English-language version of their website? I'd like to see an actual entry list that I can read ...

[garais22]

Is it final entry list? I don`t want to believe, that only 2 or 3 entries are in PWRC...Is it possible, that some crew announce entries later?

[RS]

Yeah. Only Solberg's first event in Fiesta WRC, Hirvonen in red overall, Tänak on the attack and Delecour making a one-off comeback. Or Ogier making friends with Fabia S2000 and Neuville with DS3 WRC... ;-) Plus add the scenery as bonus!

Like I said, it will still be an interesting event (for the reasons you mentioned) but the actual entry list should be pretty much the same for every WRC event this year bar Delecour.

[Barreis]

Monte Carlo Rally's World Rally Championship return attracts 89 entries - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/96843)
What will Novikov do here?!

[noel157]

Craig Breen is looking for weather/meteo crews so if anybody is going contact him or:

Ray Breen
+353 87 254 1382
[email:126eujn4]rbreen@keltechengineering.com[/email:126eujn4]

[darkstar]

startlist with maurin in a s2000 seems to be correct: Tests Julien Maurin Rallye Monte Carlo 2012 [HD] - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHwdWvEHTiI)

[bluuford]

Is it final entry list? I don`t want to believe, that only 2 or 3 entries are in PWRC...Is it possible, that some crew announce entries later?

You mean Neiksans? Maybe he is planning to start from sweden?

[Koceens]

Why you think that Neiksans will compete in PWRC next season? There is no information about that.

[AP-Racing]

Craig Breen is looking for weather/meteo crews so if anybody is going contact him or:

Ray Breen
+353 87 254 1382
[email:1uzgrs89]rbreen@keltechengineering.com[/email:1uzgrs89]

Hey....looking PM

[hari]

Is it final entry list? I don`t want to believe, that only 2 or 3 entries are in PWRC...Is it possible, that some crew announce entries later?

Entries in PWRC are possible until 27.03.2012

In SWRC the deadline is 10.01.2012

[garais22]

You mean Neiksans? Maybe he is planning to start from sweden?
Yes..Because, if he not start this event, in Montecarlo, then (if I understand correctly) he need (if he want to fight in PWRC) to drive two rally`s, who are not in Europe, but this is very $$$ :(

[cali]

Forddevelopmentmoney.com i presume....

good one :D

[cali]

Craig Breen is looking for weather/meteo crews so if anybody is going contact him or:

Ray Breen
+353 87 254 1382
[email:wmdobyp8]rbreen@keltechengineering.com[/email:wmdobyp8]

No need for a crew, just send text to Bluuford and then you get very accurate weather updates ;) Bluuford, you can hire me as your manager :D

[bluuford]

You mean Neiksans? Maybe he is planning to start from sweden?

uups.. sry, Sweden is not part of PWRC. But Mexico is and maybe he ships his car to Mexico on time of Monte.

[danon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WHwdWvEHTiI

[Tom206wrc]

Matthieu Arzeno in S2000 at Monte too...great :bounce:

[Tom206wrc]

No Superally


We must expect a poor entry at last leg of 2012 Monte-Carlo then :s

[Barreis]

Only first 60 crews are going into final leg. Rest are retired.

[Tom206wrc]

Why doesn't the ACM have an English-language version of their website? I'd like to see an actual entry list that I can read ...


They'll publish the entrylist on monday(2nd january) ;)

[Prisoner Monkeys]

Ah, right.

Still, it does beg the question - why do they only have a French-language website?

[Mintexmemory]

Errr.- because they can!

[Mirek]

We must expect a poor entry at last leg of 2012 Monte-Carlo then :s

Tom, in all three IRC editions there was no superally and I don't think it harmed the rally anyhow. I actually think that no superally is the best way to go in terms of sporting value.

[PLuto]

Ah, right.

Still, it does beg the question - why do they only have a French-language website?

Because they are French people... They thinks that everybody must speak only french...

[mousti]

Yep we got that problem even in our country, we the flemish need to learn our mother language plus french, the wallon people most of them don't care..

Ostberg said he's dissapointed in Malcolm Wilson he thought he be the second official driver, with the news that Petter got that seat he lost some partners for 2012 and is now also to look after other car options Mini or Citroën..

[MJW]

Ostberg said he's dissapointed in Malcolm Wilson he thought he be the second official driver, with the news that Petter got that seat he lost some partners for 2012 and is now also to look after other car options Mini or Citroën.. I heared that too. Mads doesnt want to be the third Norwrgian driving a Ford and is supposedly talking to PH Sport about a DS3. It can make sense long term especially if Citroen Norway want to continue with rallying. VW has Ogier and possibly Mikkelsen, Ford seems to include Tanak as its long term player, that would leave Mads and Thierry Neuville in a good place with whatever brand PSA rally after Loeb quits.

[danon]

MadsOstberg: Not happy to miss Monte, but i'l be well prepered for Sweden! :arrow: Twitter (http://twitter.com/#!/MadsOstberg/status/152296802211729408)

[RS]

I'm not that convinced by Ostberg, if they had wanted to take someone inexperienced for the second seat they may as well have gone with Tanak.

[Coach 2]

Ostberg said he's dissapointed in Malcolm Wilson he thought he be the second official driver, with the news that Petter got that seat he lost some partners for 2012 and is now also to look after other car options Mini or Citroën..[/QUOTE]

I do not think this is quite right. I think he got several offers from MW.

But I think he got another offer, it was or is, very difficult to say no to. But who knows?

[PLuto]

Yep we got that problem even in our country, we the flemish need to learn our mother language plus french, the wallon people most of them don't care..

Ostberg said he's dissapointed in Malcolm Wilson he thought he be the second official driver, with the news that Petter got that seat he lost some partners for 2012 and is now also to look after other car options Mini or Citroën..

There were not so big chance for second official seat at Ford, they were talking about completely different names than Ostberg or Tanak...

[RS]

There were not so big chance for second official seat at Ford, they were talking about completely different names than Ostberg or Tanak...

Hanninen, Atkinson? Can't think of anyone else they might have considered.

[Prisoner Monkeys]

I'm not that convinced by Ostberg, if they had wanted to take someone inexperienced for the second seat they may as well have gone with Tanak.
M-Sport have, at least for Monte Carlo. Look on page three (http://www.rallye-magazin.de/fileadmin/pdf/monte2012.pdf):

M-SPORT FORD WRT (GBR) - DELECOUR, Francois (FRA) / SAVIGNONI, Dominique (FRA) - Ford Fiesta WRC
M-SPORT FORD WRT (GBR) - NOVIKOV, Evgeny (RUS) / GIRAUDET, Denis (FRA) - Ford Fiesta WRC
M-SPORT FORD WRT (GBR) - TANAK, Ott (EST) / SIKK Kuldar (EST) - Ford Fiesta WRC

Henning Solberg and Matthew Wilson are listed as independent entries.

[MikeD]

Henning Solberg and Matthew Wilson are listed as independent entries.

No, they are not. If they were they would have priority 2, but they have priority 1 which mean they will score Manufacturer points. I guess they are just waiting for the Team name...

[Prisoner Monkeys]

I meant that they're independent of M-Sport. I pointed it out because they did a full season with M-Sport; Novikov, Tanak, Ostberg, Andersson and Burkart all did limited campaigns. That suggests to me that Wilson and Solberg are running in another team; I read a rumour here the other day that they would be in a new team.

[noel157]

From Rallye Monte Carlo entry list released | WRC News | Dec 2011 | Crash.Net (http://www.crash.net/world+rally/news/175756/1/rallye_monte_carlo_entry_list_released.html)

How accurate?

2012 Rallye Monte Carlo – entry list

Priority 1 Drivers:

1. Sebastien Loeb Citroen Total WRT Citroen DS3 WRC M
2. Mikko Hirvonen Citroen Total WRT Citroen DS3 WRC M
Jari-Matti Latvala Ford WRT Ford Fiesta RS WRC M
Petter Solberg Ford WRT Ford Fiesta RS WRC M
Paulo Nobre Palmeirinha Rally TBA M#

Henning Solberg Henning Solberg Ford Fiesta RS WRC
Matthew Wilson Matthew Wilson Ford Fiesta RS WRC
Ott Tanak M-Sport Ford WRT Ford Fiesta RS WRC
Evgeny Novikov M-Sport Ford WRT Ford Fiesta RS WRC
Martin Prokop Czech Ford National Team Ford Fiesta RS WRC

Thierry Neuville PH Sport Citroen DS3 WRC
Peter van Merksteijn PH Sport Citroen DS3 WRC

37. Dani Sordo MINI WRT MINI John Cooper Works WRC
52. Pierre Campana MINI WRT MINI John Cooper Works WRC


Others:

Francois Delcour M-Sport Ford WRT Ford Fiesta RS WRC

Sebastien Ogier Volkswagen Motorsport Skoda Fabia S2000 *
Kevin Abbring Volkswagen Motorsport Skoda Fabia S2000
P-G Andersson Proton Motorsport Proton Satria Neo S2000 S*
Giandomenico Basso Proton Motorsport Proton Satria Neo S2000 S*
Craig Breen Craig Breen Ford Fiesta S2000 S*
Louise Cook Louise Cook Ford Fiesta P*
Lorenzo Bertelli Lorenzo Bertelli Mitsubishi Evo IX P*
Michal Kosciuszko Dynamic Lotos Mitsubiahi Evo X P*

Eamonn Boland Eamonn Boland Mitsubishi Evo X
Armindo Araujo TBA MINI John Cooper Works#

* Denotes Priority 3 driver
# denotes entry class not confirmed
M denotes registered for Manufacturers Championship
P denotes PWRC entry
S denotes SWRC entry

[SubaruNorway]

What kind of Fiesta is Louise Cook driving? Didn't think you could (Or would) drive a fiesta N3/R2 in PWRC and RRC goes in SWRC i guess.

[VFTS]

What kind of Fiesta is Louise Cook driving? Didn't think you could (Or would) drive a fiesta N3/R2 in PWRC and RRC goes in SWRC i guess.

The 2WD-class is called FIA Production Car Cup for Drivers of 2WD.
She drove a Fiesta ST last season

[SubaruNorway]

Ok i hadn't heard of that cup before. It said here somewhere she was entered in PWRC.

[tolis]

Ok i hadn't heard of that cup before. It said here somewhere she was entered in PWRC.
This year, the only one who registered for that cup was Harry Hunt in a DS3 R3T.

[pucky54]

This year, the only one who registered for that cup was Harry Hunt in a DS3 R3T.

Did he win? :D :D :D

[Prisoner Monkeys]

Who is this Paulo Bobre guy? I keep seeing him added to the 2012 season page on Wikipedia, but I can't find any infromation on him. And yet he's a Priority-1 driver, so he's clearly done something of note.

[tolis]

He is Paulo Nobre, who will drive a Mini John Cooper Works WRC in all rounds of the championship next year. He'll also score points as a manufacturer/team.

[alleskids]

Who is this Paulo Bobre guy? I keep seeing him added to the 2012 season page on Wikipedia, but I can't find any infromation on him. And yet he's a Priority-1 driver, so he's clearly done something of note.

Palmerinha Rally - Equipe - Paulo Nobre (http://www.palmeirinha.com.br/equipe/paulonobre.aspx)

[N.O.T]

Who is this Paulo Bobre guy? I keep seeing him added to the 2012 season page on Wikipedia, but I can't find any infromation on him. And yet he's a Priority-1 driver, so he's clearly done something of note.

a nobody with money who is of course welcomed by other nobodies to join our sport to increase the No of WRCs we see on stages...

[Prisoner Monkeys]

He is Paulo Nobre, who will drive a Mini John Cooper Works WRC in all rounds of the championship next year. He'll also score points as a manufacturer/team.
Yes, but who is he? I've never heard of him before - what has he done of note?

[mousti]

PWRC.

[N.O.T]

Yes, but who is he? I've never heard of him before - what has he done of note?

nothing.. he just has money. This is all you need to enter the WRC..the yes men will follow.

[danon]

It seems like a winter wonderland in the region - friday 30 december 2011 at 21h52 :arrow: Bouquet final 2011 | Photolive, toutes les photos météo en temps réel - Infoclimat (http://www.infoclimat.fr/photolive-photos-meteo-132075-bouquet-final-2011.html?&order=DESC&date_type=dh_prise#photo6)

[Prisoner Monkeys]

nothing.. he just has money. This is all you need to enter the WRC..the yes men will follow.
I asked this question on another forum, and someone directed me to this: new dimension - X-raid - Paulo Nobre / BRA - Palmeirinha BMW X3CC (http://www.x-raid.de/en/team/X-raid-Team/paulo-nobre.htm)

Looks like he's a Dakar driver ... just not a particularly successful one.

[Sami]

Paolo Nobre is a really nice guy. I had a chance to have a chat with him in this year´s Rally Finland on his big crash scene. Just after his huge roll he was already joking about his totalled car and insurances and encouraging the spectators to lift (what was left of) his car from the ditch.

Paolo is really passionate for our sport (and for his country too). He wants to compete on top level with the best possible equipment. Who wouldn't? Paolo is driving with a big heart and I admire that, compared to someone who is driving because its a job.

Our sport needs these kind of heroes, the show needs them. Their driving is less clinical and provide a great spectacle. I absolutely can't understand the opinions that those drivers shouldn't enter? What would our sport be with 4 drivers only? And nobody would pay the teams for driving? I would never be interested enough to visit such a "spectacle".

Paolo is integral and interesting part of the show, we need him!

[N.O.T]

of course we need him but not in a WRC car...

[Prisoner Monkeys]

For someone who is such an "integral and interesting" part of the sport, I find it very odd that I have never heard of him before - and I've been following rallying since 1992.

[N.O.T]

Rallying was always about the "average Joe" testing his abilities against the best...if we lose privateers then the sport will lose its character...

what we need is a filter for the top places. As the sport is nowadays there is no way it can get any credit or proper sponshorship.

[Sami]

I find it wierd that you haven't heard of him, Paolo has entered pwrc for the past 2 years, and has hold the brazilian flag flying high on the roof of his car. He has spiced up the otherwise too serious championship with his right attitude.

I don't understand the filter-argument of N.O.T.

In an ideal World everyone drives a WRCar, I don't se the problem you are having with that? Too much of a spectacle to comprehend?

[N.O.T]

In an ideal World everyone drives a WRCar, I don't se the problem you are having with that? Too much of a spectacle to comprehend?

i disagree... everyone should get what they deserve not what can buy.

[N.O.T]

People must realise that we are not equal on everything we do... money creates an illusion that we are, that is why they are popular :D

It is easy to determine who can drive a WRC and who cannot

2 easy steps...1st you must acquire a special license based on ergo metric tests if you do you can buy whatever you want.... 2nd you must be within a certain time difference to the leader of a rally....you fail...you lose the license....go drive village events, or the WRC in one of the lesser divisions.

why a sponsor would bother with a sport when its ruled by daddy money ??

[Sami]

If N.O.T. had a grocery store, he would refuse to receive money from customers that are of lesser culinary taste?

[Sami]

If N.O.T. ran a touring car series, he would give the weight penalties to those who didn't have success?

[Sami]

If N.O.T. ran a rally team, he would refuse to take daddy's money and would end up using own money or actually not competing at all I quess?

[Sulland]

This is F1 superlicence thinking, and maybe that would get the fat rich daddyboys down to????
Are everyone to be allowed to drive in SWRC or PWRC, or do they have to start with a national A licence in rally before going on to the international scene NOT?

How would your perfect licence system for international rallying look like ?

[rallyfiend]

This is F1 superlicence thinking, and maybe that would get the fat rich daddyboys down to????
Are everyone to be allowed to drive in SWRC or PWRC, or do they have to start with a national A licence in rally before going on to the international scene NOT?

How would your perfect licence system for international rallying look like ?

This is not unique to WRC, nor even to rallying. Look at the number of pay drivers that exist in F1, WTCC, F2, F3.

Hang on, am I about to list EVERY motorsport series in the entire world....?!?!

[N.O.T]

If N.O.T. ran a rally team, he would refuse to take daddy's money and would end up using own money or actually not competing at all I quess?

I am not saying that team should refuse money i am saying that the rules should not allow for privateers to run WRC cars unless they quilify for it

[pantealex]

Ok i hadn't heard of that cup before. It said here somewhere she was entered in PWRC.

That cup is within PWRC, so she also scores PWRC points
Strange that you didn´t notice Harry Hunts green 2wd citroen this year in PWRC

[SubaruNorway]

That cup is within PWRC, so she also scores PWRC points
Strange that you didn´t notice Harry Hunts green 2wd citroen this year in PWRC

Of course i knew about Hunt, who did not after all his stunts...

[Bartek]

Bouffier have problems with sponsors and he is not sure about his start in Monte

[noel157]

Bouffier have problems with sponsors and he is not sure about his start in Monte

Saw that, so little or no support from the factory?

[Bartek]

Saw that, so little or no support from the factory?

I don't know but this will be ridiculous situation if Peugeot don't support Bryan on Monte. He tested new evolution of 207 and now we have news that he have problem with sponsors

[Sulland]

Was not the entry list to be published today?

[AndyRAC]

Pretty poor if the defending champion can't get support or sponsors.....

[Tom206wrc]

Bouffier have problems with sponsors and he is not sure about his start in Monte

According to his codriver Xavier Panséri, it's OK for Monte start ;)

[satnav]

Was not the entry list to be published today?

Yes it was meant to be out today !!!

[Tom206wrc]

It's ACO don't ask them to hurry :rolleyes:

[rallyfiend]

It's ACO don't ask them to hurry :rolleyes:

ACM.

ACO run Dakar.

[rallyfiend]

ACM.

ACO run Dakar.

Sorry, ASO run Dakar. And le Tour.

ACO run Le Mans