Rallye Wrc Monte Carlo 2012

[donlorean]

If they haven't pay the rent, they don't drive. It's very simple. Or insurance... Shipping or entryfee is only small piece of that cake...

[MJW]

That doesn't make sence, from here what is there to pay for??? Enter fee, shipping, car etc must already be paid for... big waste of money if they now don't do the event. This has to be a reporter talking some crap.

As replied by donlorean the shipping and entry fee is minimal, the cost starts when you eat into kilometers of lifed parts, tyres, wrc fuel etc. The way Ford work putting 2 extra cars in a transporter(s) that is capable of carrying up up to 10 Fiestas on some events last year is (in the grand scheme) small money. As you indicated it may have had a bit of spin on the story by the journalist to put pressure on the sponsor to send the funds. Next step if all fails is to name the potential sponsor, who couldnt / wouldnt pay, but for that to happen all else would have failed as there will be no hope of keeping the sponsor then. Its not the first time sponsors have defaulted on money.

[mousti]

Yep in Cycling u see that often too now, last year there was a new Australia team with pretty good names contracted, suddenly sponsor doesn't want to sponsor anymore, all the riders had no team anymore just before the season. Then you're screwed.

[Kielder]

It's snowing...

[donlorean]

Sometimes you can read also news about "mysterious" problem with car just before start. Usually then biggest problem is in drivers wallet... It's empty...

[GigiGalliNo1]

Will there be Pickem's for Monte Carlo? :D

[Fast Eddie WRC]

It's snowing...

Hope so ...

Source ?

[Red bull]

Can't wait for the start.

Google Translate (http://translate.google.co.ke/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallye-sport.fr%2Frallye-monte-carlo-2012-wrc%2F&anno=2)

[GigiGalliNo1]

Hope so ...

Source ?

iRally photos/Colin Clark pics online.

[danon]

Saint-Bonnet

http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/9369/stbonnet.jpg

https://p.twimg.com/AjQw6QlCMAAsKTH.jpg

[danon]

Excuse me, but instead of helping Loeb when he doesn't need you, can you go back to school and learn how to speak and WRITE french???
Thanks.

No need to excuse, dude.

How can you know, who needs me when?
It's not a grammar forum!
Keep it real!

You are welcome.

[Fri]

Few pics from service park:
rallysport.hu - Monte Carlo Rallye 2012 - szerviz (http://www.rallysport.hu/images/2012/photo/wrc/01_monte/01_fri_sp/index.htm)

[focus206]

Few pics from service park:
rallysport.hu - Monte Carlo Rallye 2012 - szerviz (http://www.rallysport.hu/images/2012/photo/wrc/01_monte/01_fri_sp/index.htm)

I see Henning and Wilson with the same livery, so it is/was likely planned to form a team...

[pucky54]

I see Henning and Wilson with the same livery, so it is/was likely planned to form a team...

So, which sponsor is hiding behind the tape?

[cali]

Sponsors are covered because they have not received funding frm backers yet?

[Martin Luijk]

It's Go Fast Energy Drink. They've had a poster campaign in Holland, so I recognised the logo.

Just Google it, and you will see it's true.

[pucky54]

ok thanks Martin, never heard of this stuff.

[MJW]

ok thanks Martin, never heard of this stuff.
It's an American energy drink, supposed to give you less of a crash than existing / established energy drinks.

[Rallyper]

I googled. For sure it´s Go Fast Energy Drinks. Hope they go fast paying also....

[User]

Reminds me of Duval and the Kizz-Me sponsor. Also an energy drink sponsor who failed to keep his promises ..

[danon]

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/400237_3052209912091_1468570606_32979130_161035735 2_n.jpg

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/396124_3052151790638_1468570606_32979110_180057043 1_n.jpg

http://www.rallysport.hu/images/2012/photo/wrc/01_monte/01_fri_sp/images/RSHU_Photo_035_jpg.jpg

http://www.rallysport.hu/images/2012/photo/wrc/01_monte/01_fri_sp/images/RSHU_Photo_036_jpg.jpg

[MR666]

As replied by donlorean the shipping and entry fee is minimal, the cost starts when you eat into kilometers of lifed parts, tyres, wrc fuel etc. The way Ford work putting 2 extra cars in a transporter(s) that is capable of carrying up up to 10 Fiestas on some events last year is (in the grand scheme) small money. As you indicated it may have had a bit of spin on the story by the journalist to put pressure on the sponsor to send the funds. Next step if all fails is to name the potential sponsor, who couldnt / wouldnt pay, but for that to happen all else would have failed as there will be no hope of keeping the sponsor then. Its not the first time sponsors have defaulted on money.

Ok thought this money would have had to have been paid before heading to the event.

[RS]

It's Go Fast Energy Drink.

Is sponsoring Henning and Matthew supposed to be some kind of irony?

M-Sport liveries look quite cool though.

Noticed Bouffier looks like a private entry rather than Peugeot Sport.

[MJW]

Reminds me of Duval and the Kizz-Me sponsor. Also an energy drink sponsor who failed to keep his promises .. There is another energy drink sponsor who let down a driver but is back with them now, after lawyers pointed out the terms of the contract and actually fulfilling it is better than being sued.

[Viking]

I've got a feeling that Henning will be on the starting line ;)

[Roy]

I've got a feeling that Henning will be on the starting line ;)

https://twitter.com/#!/DovenbyHall/status/159001709673332736

[dimviii]

Meanwhile, the teams’ test programmes in the Alps and Ardèche Mountains have provided a promising foretaste of the battles to come, although there have been reports of body damage (Hirvonen, Neuville) and offs (for Latvala, Solberg, Sordo, Van Merksteijn, Tänak).

Tomorrow morning (Tuesday), at eight o’clock, the first cars will begin the 3.58km shakedown stage

The calm before the storm... | Best of Rally Live (http://www.best-of-rallylive.com/en/2012/01/16/the-calm-before-the-storm/)

[Jafry]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/973/973_rally_monte_carlo_2012_b7263ffe67.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/973/973_rally_monte_carlo_2012_6b3f760d3d.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/973/973_rally_monte_carlo_2012_7f65df9cff.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/973/973_rally_monte_carlo_2012_576d90e197.jpg

More photos from Monte before start HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=973&fseason=2012)

[MikeD]

How can a brand called 'Go Fast' hire the ultimate 'Go slow' driver?

[Barreis]

Still no sign of news on wrc.com. Hope after this that NOS s*um will disappear forever.

[tolis]

Maurin's Fiesta WRC

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/382679_3066484506886_1406751981_3172403_1107893327 _n.jpg

[J.Lindstroem]

Still no sign of news on wrc.com. Hope after this that NOS s*um will disappear forever.

Wrc.com is embarassing.

[Juha_Koo]

Looks like the coverage from Monte will be very poor, nearly nonexistent...

Now MTV3 (MAX) doesn't even have the power stage live anymore so there's no point dreaming of any live footage from Monte execpt maybe some interviews. Power stage live only from Eurosport? (If even from there...)

No sign of any onboard video equipment on the cars either. Maybe we'll see some sh*tty GoPro/Contour onboards in which the camera is mounted to the rear side window and only audio one can hear is that extremely irritating wind noise. I'm starting to be really pissed of. Perkele!

[Plan9]

It's just a name... Fords 5-year-plan-team is more humiliating.. :)

+1 rofl!
Hopefully with this new team Matt will finally "go-fast" =p

[RAS007]

Wrc.com is embarassing.

+1

[Francis44]

I think for the first time in some years we have a chance of decent footage.You dont need much really, drop a cameraman in a nice place with a decent camera and there you go.

I will not miss the over set up angles of the past.

[rallyfiend]

Still no sign of news on wrc.com. Hope after this that NOS s*um will disappear forever.

Why are you expecting anything on that site?

It's a NOS site, so of course it's not going to be updated! Have you been following the news?

[Andre Oliveira]

Sporttv Portugal also retired from tv program the resumes and Power Stage. Eurosport will broadcast the PS?

[RS]

Power stage live only from Eurosport? (If even from there...)



No, don't think so. Simply too late.

Looking forward to seeing the footage though. There was something about NOS's production that I found very bland.

[Francis44]

Eurosport doesn't list the Power stage on Sunday, just the daily review.

[had_zachau]

Matthew Wilson's twitter:

Well the drama continues!!! We will do shakedown tomorrow morning then a decision on the rally will be taken in the afternoon!!

[Roy]

What game is Henning and WilSON play?
No budget, secret sponsor
No drive, drive shakedown, maybe no drive?

https://twitter.com/#!/mattyjim1/status/159031237003055104

[mousti]

Would somebody laugh if they say we give Henning a chance but ditch Matthew...

[Juha_Koo]

Quite amazing if they do because it's under a week and not a single TV site nor Eurosport's own site show any live WRC programs yet alone Power Stage. Finnish Eurosport doesn't have anything related to WRC... French Eurosport had some 30 minute reviews.

I'm surprised that people actually are expecting "decent footage". With this kind of short notice, I'm very surprised if we'll see anything, most likely it's going to be cr*p. Does Eurosport have the resources to film? Or are they going to put their IRC staff to Monte?

[carmichael]

I'm surprised that people actually are expecting "decent footage".

at least julian porter is there, so no probs with interviews

[mousti]

I think Eurosport is big enough to get this aired on a very nice way.

[RS]

I'm surprised that people actually are expecting "decent footage". With this kind of short notice, I'm very surprised if we'll see anything, most likely it's going to be cr*p. Does Eurosport have the resources to film? Or are they going to put their IRC staff to Monte?

They are not doing anything until March so I guess so.

[Francis44]

Quite amazing if they do because it's under a week and not a single TV site nor Eurosport's own site show any live WRC programs yet alone Power Stage. Finnish Eurosport doesn't have anything related to WRC... French Eurosport had some 30 minute reviews.

I'm surprised that people actually are expecting "decent footage". With this kind of short notice, I'm very surprised if we'll see anything, most likely it's going to be cr*p. Does Eurosport have the resources to film? Or are they going to put their IRC staff to Monte?


What makes you think otherwise?! Some of the best footage I've seen recently was done by a single individual with just one camera (Rallymedia, RallyeMadcom), so I believe even a small team can get decent footage.

If you are worried because the coverage will miss fancy graphics and stupid angles just to cover sponsor banners then that's your loss.

I prefer pure 30 minutes hardcore footage than what we had in the last years, which was 20 minutes of interviews, 5 minutes of awfull onboard angles and 5 minutes of Abu Dhabi trophy crap.

[danon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO9WEpzCqcE

[danon]

Matthew James Wilson: Well the drama continues!!! We will do shakedown tomorrow morning then a decision on the rally will be taken in the afternoon!! (http://twitter.com/#!/mattyjim1/status/159031237003055104)

[N.O.T]

I hope he stays home... we do not need him in the WRC.

[logic]

I hope he stays home... we do not need him in the WRC.

if you had your way , there would be 2 cars and 2 drivers in the WRC.

[Juha_Koo]

What makes you think otherwise?! Some of the best footage I've seen recently was done by a single individual with just one camera (Rallymedia, RallyeMadcom), so I believe even a small team can get decent footage.

If you are worried because the coverage will miss fancy graphics and stupid angles just to cover sponsor banners then that's your loss.

I prefer pure 30 minutes hardcore footage than what we had in the last years, which was 20 minutes of interviews, 5 minutes of awfull onboard angles and 5 minutes of Abu Dhabi trophy crap.

Well, the things which make me think otherwise are for example the lack of time, the lack of resources and the lack of money. There's a significant difference between making excellent pure sound rally videos which are from 5 to 10 minutes long and a five-day rally production in the Alps (MTV3 will broadcast 6,5 hours of footage from Monte). Second thing I wonder is how are they going to redistribute the material, NOS had massive satellite equipment to do that. Does ES have those systems?

May I ask do you really think that I miss NOS coverage because of "fancy graphics" and "stupid angles"? Quite an allegation I have to say. I don't particularly miss NOS broadcasts because after 2007 they became quite monotonous and too mainstream orientated, luckily here in Finland we didn't have anything like Paul King's "OH WOW NOW HE CRASHED!!" live action hard supreme super-exiting hardcore extreme commentary. I "miss" NOS productions because they had money and resources. Did they do the best job? No they didn't. Can someone do better? For sure.

And just to comment on that sponsor visibility, they *have* to show those banners, that's why the sponsors give money - do you really think that the majority of funders gives money because it's nice to support rally? 90% doesn't give a sh*t about rallying, they fund our sport because they want visibility.

I just wonder what footage you have been watching, nothing like that here in Finland except maybe some 15-minute mini review shows at 3am... "Awful onboard angles", well why don't you go and do better when FIA and teams are whining. Too much un-needed weight, cameras and cables distracting and causing inconvinience to crew, etc etc. Atleast NOS had specialized WRC onboard camera equipment which enabled to receive power from car's electrical system (no need for main batteries), enabled us to hear the intercom audio and supported multiple cameras. I really don't see what's the matter with for example this onboard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2LIE0onlKk (maybe wider angle lenses would have been good...)

And finally, I guess there's never going to be a rally broadcast good enough. Hardcore fans always see the footage and commentary as too mainstream. Shame that rally enthusiasts don't come in such numbers as for example ice hockey or football enthusiasts. Atleast 70% are "Sunday followers" who thought Kimi could win.

[N.O.T]

if you had your way , there would be 2 cars and 2 drivers in the WRC.

no...we would have the best possible driving the wrc ones and i would sent the sick dogs in the lesser divisions to play....the supporters caring about nobodies like wilson, al Raihjls and the rest could join them.

[danon]

http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/full/497373462.jpg?Expires=1326756606&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIYVGSUJFNRFZBBTA&Signature=lAFheaLFqRQXWaupGxM720VJYfswK0ExPVGLzL8q 7sanh~YipvJunHLqfthPOfaa4PfzqKljdeJU9hOgdBaL~MosAb UiG-uC4R7KpEMZ2g7cTWeO9~9KUVn~Y4fvGHSuJo7mrSgGI2QdPpSF k4tKnri6wr6S~71Xmai5vDO5t8I_

[danon]

Loeb scares Novikov! :D

http://www.ledauphine.com/fr/images/13B150CD-86CD-4739-A26B-1261C505A504/LDL_06/photo-le-dl-stephane-marc.jpg

[N.O.T]

Hamburgers go up...career goes down....

[tfp]

Very good picture :p

[danon]

http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/2019/38086310150608695118083.jpg

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/395566_3073828643674_1202401106_33308337_956845964 _n.jpg

http://i48.servimg.com/u/f48/13/98/50/80/38721310.jpg

http://www.foto-modlic.si/photos/2012/01/290/high/MoC-0657.jpg

[danon]

Recce Saint Bonnet le Froid - what's the weather like.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIl5CbQZOuM

[makinen_fan]

shakedown has started, slowson in action #WRC Rallye Monte Carlo Matthew Wilson in Shakedown [PHOTO] on Twitpic (http://twitpic.com/88b2dv)

is there a way to look at live timing?

[bjalverud]

First SD times
http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/6412/13507603.jpg

[had_zachau]

Rallye Monte Carlo shakedown Amazing time from Novikov 2.13.0 he takes the lead!!

[Aquagen]

Thx to https://twitter.com/#!/planetemarcus

[bjalverud]

P. Solberg 2:13.9

[Srdjan]

Rally Monte-Carlo Live Result (http://www.rallyliveresults.com/live/liveresult.php?type=CG)
but not shake results

[James Graham]

Amazing time from Novikov and also from Sebastien Ogier. He has shown just how fast a S2000 compared to WRC machinery.

[RS]

So Neuville is already faster than Mikko *hides*

[Sulland]

Where do you get the SD times from guys ?

[RS]

And just to comment on that sponsor visibility, they *have* to show those banners, that's why the sponsors give money - do you really think that the majority of funders gives money because it's nice to support rally? 90% doesn't give a sh*t about rallying, they fund our sport because they want visibility.


Understood, but I have seen NOS footage before where the car drives off and they focus on the advertising banner. That's going too far.

[eib1]

Shakedown times (provisional):
Novikov (Fiesta WRC) 2’13’0[/*:m:yafoci9c]
Araujo (Mini WRC) 2’13’2[/*:m:yafoci9c]
Loeb (DS3 WRC) 2’13’5[/*:m:yafoci9c]
P.Solberg (Fiesta WRC) 2’13’9[/*:m:yafoci9c]
Neuville (DS3 WRC) 2’14’0[/*:m:yafoci9c]
Latvala (Fiesta WRC) 2’14’0[/*:m:yafoci9c]
Hirvonen (DS3 WRC) 2’14’7[/*:m:yafoci9c]
Sordo (Mini WRC) 2’14’9[/*:m:yafoci9c]
Tänak (Fiesta WRC) 2’16’3[/*:m:yafoci9c]
Ogier (Fabia S2000) 2’17’0[/*:m:yafoci9c]
H.Solberg (Fiesta WRC) 2’17’2[/*:m:yafoci9c]
Delecour (Fiesta WRC) 2’17’3[/*:m:yafoci9c]
Campana (Mini WRC) 2’17’7[/*:m:yafoci9c]
Prokop (Fiesta WRC) 2’17’9[/*:m:yafoci9c]
Wilson (Fiesta WRC) 2’18’2[/*:m:yafoci9c]
Maurin (Fiesta WRC° 2’18’8[/*:m:yafoci9c]
Van Merksteijn (DS3 WRC) 2’18’9[/*:m:yafoci9c]

[muscrae]

SD finished_???

[muscrae]

Anybody there?

[rage82]

SD finished_???

Yes, for priority 1 and 2 drivers. From 10 to 12 h. CET is the shakedown for P3 and private drivers.

[MR666]

This day and age you would think all wrc rally websites would have to able to be viewed in English. Like's of Bling Translate are not 100%.

[Wim_Impreza]

This day and age you would think all wrc rally websites would have to able to be viewed in English. Like's of Bling Translate are not 100%.

They are French and they do what they want.

[Bartek]

Guys remember, it's only shakedown :) I don't believe that Novikov and Araujo can be faster than for example Hirvo or Sordo.

[WRC1]

Guys remember, it's only shakedown :) I don't believe that Novikov and Araujo can be faster than for example Hirvo or Sordo.

agree with your opinion about Sordo...i am not sure about Hirvo....

[6789]

Lets get the rally started! Under 22 hours to go :)

[Koppomsbo]

Does this mean that Novikov chooses startpostion first??



Shakedown times (provisional):
Novikov (Fiesta WRC) 2’13’0[/*:m:2mrkz1vn]
Araujo (Mini WRC) 2’13’2[/*:m:2mrkz1vn]
Loeb (DS3 WRC) 2’13’5[/*:m:2mrkz1vn]
P.Solberg (Fiesta WRC) 2’13’9[/*:m:2mrkz1vn]
Neuville (DS3 WRC) 2’14’0[/*:m:2mrkz1vn]
Latvala (Fiesta WRC) 2’14’0[/*:m:2mrkz1vn]
Hirvonen (DS3 WRC) 2’14’7[/*:m:2mrkz1vn]
Sordo (Mini WRC) 2’14’9[/*:m:2mrkz1vn]
Tänak (Fiesta WRC) 2’16’3[/*:m:2mrkz1vn]
Ogier (Fabia S2000) 2’17’0[/*:m:2mrkz1vn]
H.Solberg (Fiesta WRC) 2’17’2[/*:m:2mrkz1vn]
Delecour (Fiesta WRC) 2’17’3[/*:m:2mrkz1vn]
Campana (Mini WRC) 2’17’7[/*:m:2mrkz1vn]
Prokop (Fiesta WRC) 2’17’9[/*:m:2mrkz1vn]
Wilson (Fiesta WRC) 2’18’2[/*:m:2mrkz1vn]
Maurin (Fiesta WRC° 2’18’8[/*:m:2mrkz1vn]
Van Merksteijn (DS3 WRC) 2’18’9[/*:m:2mrkz1vn]

[AP-Racing]

I think no, because rule with starting position only for gravel rally

[Koppomsbo]

I think no, because rule with starting position only for gravel rally

Thanks

[jonkka]

Does this mean that Novikov chooses startpostion first??

No, that rule applies to gravel rallies only.

EDIT: Uh, too slow... :(

[GINE]

Is everybody in same tires? Do they have one, or two compounds to choose from?

[euskalteam]

Anyone knows why?

@mattyjim1
Matthew James Wilson
hace 13 horas : Well the drama continues!!! We will do shakedown tomorrow morning then a decision on the rally will be taken in the afternoon!!

[Sulland]

Anyone know why?

@mattyjim1
Matthew James Wilson
hace 13 horas : Well the drama continues!!! We will do shakedown tomorrow morning then a decision on the rally will be taken in the afternoon!!

Probably a PR stunt !

[Karukera]

Anyone know why?

Marketing tricks

[Rallyper]

Henning and Wilson had Go Fast sticking visible on SD, so I guess they´d got payed in time then.

[bretddog]

Is everybody in same tires? Do they have one, or two compounds to choose from?
3 non-snow compounds. I assume also for shakedown.

[James Graham]

Henning and Wilson had Go Fast sticking visible on SD, so I guess they´d got payed in time then.

Yep, they finally got PayPal working as there is no way Malcolm Wilson would have sent the cars out with the decals on them without the money being in the bank.

A pretty lame way to try and get some publicity really.

[dimviii]

will Jafry be again this year faster photographer? :p

[bluuford]

I think that Novikov was the one who didnt had time to test the car, so therefore he used the shakedown as a real test probably. If you look at the shakedown stage, then it is not very representative - nice road between the fields, one small road tunnel, mostly straights and then 90 degrees corners and almost no elevation changes.
If you hope nice and snowy condition, then I am afraid that you have to wait until Friday. Maybe we see some frost tomorrow morning, but then comes the summer.

[rallye-sport]

Shakedown Photos here : Photos Rallye du Monte-Carlo 2012 (http://www.rallye-sport.fr/photos-rallye-du-monte-carlo-2012/)

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/photos-monte-carlo-2012/img_6671.jpg

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/photos-monte-carlo-2012/img_6862.jpg

[Whinlatter]

What was with the pickems for this rally? I came on yesterday lunchtime and they weren't available, then I come on this morning and find the thread closed! 12 hours is not a big enough window for people who are at work, v. disppointing.......

Anyway, my predictions - Loeb to win by about 2 minutes, Sordo 2nd, Mikko 3rd, Petter 4th. Lots of DNFs. Campana slooooow. Eurosport footage to be just the same as ESPNs. Can't wait!

[bluuford]

Cannot keep my mouth shut.. because I have wanted to say it for three days already.. Neuville´s car (the front) looks like it has crashed into the snowbank ;-)

[zajic]

Photos from shakedown HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=974&startpos=0&fseason=&fcat=&fauthor=&ftxt=)
http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/974/974_rally_monte_carlo_2012_2361a3b0ec.jpg
http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/974/974_rally_monte_carlo_2012_fa9ba6e62a.jpg
http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/974/974_rally_monte_carlo_2012_f7687b60df.jpg

[rallye-sport]

New Photos from shakedown by Arnaud Guygrand

Photos Rallye du Monte-Carlo 2012 (http://www.rallye-sport.fr/photos-rallye-du-monte-carlo-2012/)

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/photos-monte-carlo-2012/img_7038.jpg

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/photos-monte-carlo-2012/mg_7693_0.jpg

[Tom206wrc]

There won't be any live-timing on World Rally Championship (http://www.wrc.com) ??? :confused:

[PLuto]

There won't be any live-timing on World Rally Championship (http://www.wrc.com) ??? :confused:

no

[tfp]

no

To be fair it wasnt very "live" :-) is there a website we can keep up with the split times?

[Brother John]

What was with the pickems for this rally? I came on yesterday lunchtime and they weren't available, then I come on this morning and find the thread closed! 12 hours is not a big enough window for people who are at work, v. disppointing.......

Anyway, my predictions - Loeb to win by about 2 minutes, Sordo 2nd, Mikko 3rd, Petter 4th. Lots of DNFs. Campana slooooow. !

We've had some technical issues following the recent server move. Was the response of PuddleJumper, last night on this thread http://www.motorsportforums.com/wrc/150118-pickems-there-pickems-monte-carlo.html
http://www.motorsportforums.com/images/misc/subscribed.png

[Jafry]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/973/973_rally_monte_carlo_2012_351085d436.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/973/973_rally_monte_carlo_2012_3db034c376.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/973/973_rally_monte_carlo_2012_525be014a8.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/973/973_rally_monte_carlo_2012_b9a5da3cd1.jpg

More photos from shakedown HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=973&fseason=2012)

[Brother John]

There won't be any live-timing on World Rally Championship (http://www.wrc.com) ??? :confused:

Maybe tomorrow at the Monte Carlo Website ...... http://www.rallyliveresults.com/live/

[Tom206wrc]

Shakedown times (provisional):
Novikov (Fiesta WRC) 2’13’0[/*:m:1gejl20o]
Araujo (Mini WRC) 2’13’2[/*:m:1gejl20o]
Loeb (DS3 WRC) 2’13’5[/*:m:1gejl20o]
P.Solberg (Fiesta WRC) 2’13’9[/*:m:1gejl20o]
Neuville (DS3 WRC) 2’14’0[/*:m:1gejl20o]
Latvala (Fiesta WRC) 2’14’0[/*:m:1gejl20o]
Hirvonen (DS3 WRC) 2’14’7[/*:m:1gejl20o]
Sordo (Mini WRC) 2’14’9[/*:m:1gejl20o]
Tänak (Fiesta WRC) 2’16’3[/*:m:1gejl20o]
Ogier (Fabia S2000) 2’17’0[/*:m:1gejl20o]
H.Solberg (Fiesta WRC) 2’17’2[/*:m:1gejl20o]
Delecour (Fiesta WRC) 2’17’3[/*:m:1gejl20o]
Campana (Mini WRC) 2’17’7[/*:m:1gejl20o]
Prokop (Fiesta WRC) 2’17’9[/*:m:1gejl20o]
Wilson (Fiesta WRC) 2’18’2[/*:m:1gejl20o]
Maurin (Fiesta WRC° 2’18’8[/*:m:1gejl20o]
Van Merksteijn (DS3 WRC) 2’18’9[/*:m:1gejl20o]


What about Bouffier :confused:

[Mintexmemory]

What was with the pickems for this rally? I came on yesterday lunchtime and they weren't available, then I come on this morning and find the thread closed! 12 hours is not a big enough window for people who are at work, v. disppointing.......

Anyway, my predictions - Loeb to win by about 2 minutes, Sordo 2nd, Mikko 3rd, Petter 4th. Lots of DNFs. Campana slooooow. Eurosport footage to be just the same as ESPNs. Can't wait!

Come on mods open the pickem up again until midnight GMT (I pm'd to get mine included before the end of shakedown). Now we know that Henning and Matt are running it may affect some picks and it would be fair all round!

[Fri]

Few pics from shakedow:
rallysport.hu - Monte Carlo Rallye 2012 - teszt (http://www.rallysport.hu/images/2012/photo/wrc/01_monte/02_fri_teszt/index.htm)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Any times for the second run on Shakedown ?

[Wasted Talent]

What was with the pickems for this rally? I came on yesterday lunchtime and they weren't available, then I come on this morning and find the thread closed! 12 hours is not a big enough window for people who are at work, v. disppointing.......

Anyway, my predictions - Loeb to win by about 2 minutes, Sordo 2nd, Mikko 3rd, Petter 4th. Lots of DNFs. Campana slooooow. Eurosport footage to be just the same as ESPNs. Can't wait!

Agree with Pickems window - nothing last week before I went away for the weekend and now I look they are closed!

Loeb by 2 mins from Latvala, Hirvonen, Petter, Sordo, .....

WT

[Mirek]

I'm a bit disappointed with shakedown. The road was really non-representative for the rally and most of the time it was quite boring. Some crazy stuffs was there but not enough (Ogier, PG, Abbring, Araujo, Comole). From WRC top runners Loeb and Neuville, Latvala and Novikov looked fastest. But it was just my feeling with no knowledge of the times.

[Brother John]

Come on mods open the pickem up again until midnight GMT (I pm'd to get mine included before the end of shakedown). Now we know that Henning and Matt are running it may affect some picks and it would be fair all round!

Then you have to take contact with PuddleJumper or Mark. I do not want to make more mistakes here on the forum guys.

[PLuto]

Some pictures from shakedown by Roman Kasparek - Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=13264)

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/8ff80219f7b791b532ef645bc34cf6a9.jpghttp://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/c545b4fba27c5b6122c8747d93561b9c.jpg
http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/98d562d03c16aa9b945d3670ebf5382c.jpghttp://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/aeb19de291d98d3230cdd2bd3b07392f.jpg

[EightGear]

Is there a list anywhere with all times of shakedown? Would be nice to see the S2000 times.

[pettersolberg29]

The liveries are looking nice this year - the two Go Fast Fiestas look good, as does Tanak's. The factory Fords and Minis look nicer too.

[PLuto]

Our video from shakedown - Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=13265)

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/b3cc275065efb25624e4620cc4d7c5cc.jpg

[Rallyper]

Pickems never been open after SD. And I did my predictions once last year a few minutes after midnight, after closing time, but was never approved for participating.

[tolis]

Some photos from the SD HERE (http://www.best-of-rallylive.com/en/photos/)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7012/6714213849_95978c3d6b_b.jpg

[dimviii]

Some pictures from shakedown by Roman Kasparek - Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=13264)

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/8ff80219f7b791b532ef645bc34cf6a9.jpghttp://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/c545b4fba27c5b6122c8747d93561b9c.jpg
http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/98d562d03c16aa9b945d3670ebf5382c.jpghttp://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/aeb19de291d98d3230cdd2bd3b07392f.jpg

Finally a photographer that found a proper corner. Like Novikovs new livery,most beautiful fiesta imho.
I d like some s2000 times from shakedown too.

[Mintexmemory]

Pickems never been open after SD. And I did my predictions once last year a few minutes after midnight, after closing time, but was never approved for participating.
But there is a considerable difference between having several days before the deadline which are frittered away and having a narrow window of less than a day. The latter requires those with a life to spend time on line when they could be doing something useful ;)

[rallye-sport]

All photos with press conference Photos Rallye du Monte-Carlo 2012 (http://www.rallye-sport.fr/photos-rallye-du-monte-carlo-2012/)

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/photos-monte-carlo-2012/mg_7802.jpg

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/photos-monte-carlo-2012/mg_7847.jpg

[miksu]

But there is a considerable difference between having several days before the deadline which are frittered away and having a narrow window of less than a day. The latter requires those with a life to spend time on line when they could be doing something useful ;)

Yeah, i missed it too. Sucks.

[Tom206wrc]

Where can I find the starting list(drivers list after forfaits) :confused:

[tolis]

Where can I find the starting list(drivers list after forfaits) :confused:
Start List here: http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/start_list_section1.pdf
82 crews. No Fuchs

[papipasto]

Hi guys !

The official site of Automobile Club de Monaco has setted up a live results section on http://www.acm.mc (http://www.acm.mc/)

Direct access to it here http://www.rallyliveresults.com (http://www.rallyliveresults.com/)

Will start tomorrow !!!
Come on !!!

[makinen_fan]

Sebastien Loeb tops Monte Carlo shakedown - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97063)

autosport reports that Loeb won the Shakedown with 1.7s from Novikov. that's weird, as Citroen reported in twitter that Novikov was first... whos right?

[alexinvancouver]

i'd expect something like this from Novikov and not surprised.
that guy has lots of potential.
he drives like he has no brakes =o)
watch out for him once he learns where his limit is
Amazing time from Novikov and also from Sebastien Ogier. He has shown just how fast a S2000 compared to WRC machinery.

[RICARDO75]

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/380547_10151164497755597_292402850596_22357015_145 3946335_n.jpg

[sp0+]

Thanks Ricardo!!! :)

[Kielder]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFHx9bTJ2k0&feature=g-u&context=G20a7df9FUAAAAAAAAAA

[Fri]

video from shakedown:
: : RallySport.hu - Monte Carlo Rallye shakedown : : (http://www.rallysport.hu/images/2012/video/001-rshu_rallye_monte_carlo_shakedown.htm)

[Tom206wrc]

Start List here: http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/start_list_section1.pdf
82 crews. No Fuchs


Thanks ;)
Well, van Merksteijn starting just in front of Neuville... :s

[N.O.T]

and Abbring behind Cook...

I think the WV will appeal and this will change though.

Monte organisers should stick in Ladycups...

[Elayne]

and Louise Cook just in front Abbring

[GINE]

Any times for the S2000 cars? green, Buffier, pg....

[tolis]

Any times for the S2000 cars? green, Buffier, pg....
Green? :D You mean Breen!!!

[sp0+]

Green? :D You mean Breen!!!

No, no!!! It's Greg Breen, just in one word.... Green!!!!! :) :) :) :D

[Marre]

are they going to send world rally radio tomorrow?

[bluuford]

Indeed! World Rally Radio (http://worldrallyradio.com/World_Rally_Radio/World_Rally_Radio.html)

[Marre]

are they going to send world rally radio tomorrow?

just saw that you can listen on the Facebook page :)

[RS]

Well chaps, the season starts tomorrow morning.

I am very much looking forward to the many interesting things we will have to observe tomorrow

But I do think I would be more excited right now if it was still an IRC event and we had 4 days of live tv to look forward to. Maybe next year...

[alexlake]

Looking forward to wrc starting again, interesting shakedown times. Where can I follow the times tomorrow guys? Had the winter off from rallying and wrc.com seems to have given up!

[donlorean]

Mikko said in MTV3 interviev that because of this NOS situation, they can't have split times in the car during rally... I really hope that they can't fix that at all. Spilt times belong to tracks, not in rally...

[N.O.T]

Mikko said in MTV3 interviev that because of this NOS situation, they can't have split times in the car during rally... I really hope that they can't fix that at all. Spilt times belong to tracks, not in rally...

they might use the old system of having team members in the stage indicating them on boards...

[A.F.F.]

they might use the old system of having team members in the stage indicating them on boards...

And that they most likely will do.

It would be so nice if there weren't any splits allowed :mark:

[N.O.T]

the only thing that was worthwhile from NOS were the splits...

[PLuto]

Looking forward to wrc starting again, interesting shakedown times. Where can I follow the times tomorrow guys? Had the winter off from rallying and wrc.com seems to have given up!

Results will be here - Výsledky Rallye: Výsledky on-line (http://vysledky-rally.cz/vysledky/?id=1)

[jacko]

and Abbring behind Cook...

I think the WV will appeal and this will change though.

Monte organisers should stick in Ladycups...

with a 3minute gap, that should be enough i think...
Like years ago... you still don't do any research...

[JTGANG]

For those who are wondering Abbring is starting the stages 3 minutes later than Cook so normally no chance of catching him inside the stages....

[N.O.T]

Results will be here - Výsledky Rallye: Výsledky on-line (http://vysledky-rally.cz/vysledky/?id=1)

i hope the server will take it... without the wrc.com you should expect some heavy traffic.

[N.O.T]

with a 3minute gap, that should be enough i think...
Like years ago... you still don't do any research...

see the length of days stages then compare the s2000 vs the r2 and Abbrings skills with Cooks.....

it might be enough but when you drive you want to be focused 100% on driving and not on the car infront....

[Mirek]

Thanks ;)
Well, van Merksteijn starting just in front of Neuville... :s

Two minutes there, no issue.


and Abbring behind Cook...

I think the WV will appeal and this will change though.

Monte organisers should stick in Ladycups...

Again You point on wrong organization. FIA rules say supporter championship field must start together. ACM has nothing to do with that. They gave Abbring three minutes gap but it probably won't be enough on so long stages. Anyway Kevin wasn't angry at all. You will see soon in an interview.

[Zeakiwi]

Twitter / Colin Clark: Mmm, love to know what's b ... (http://t.co/oaR1xTPg)

Sainz talking to Wilson Senior .

Malcom seeking advice on how to ban drivers from using mountain bikes ?
Carlos suggesting Malcom should try the Dakar Rally as a winter break ?

[PLuto]

Here you can find starting order to first leg (Startovni poradi do 1. etapy) - Autosport : MS - Rallye Monte Carlo (SWRC+PWRC) (http://www.autosport.cz/zavody/?id=970)

[Rallyper]

But there is a considerable difference between having several days before the deadline which are frittered away and having a narrow window of less than a day. The latter requires those with a life to spend time on line when they could be doing something useful ;)

What we should consider here is the opportunity to wait for SD-times (even if they are not representable for the rally as a whole) not should gain any ones momentum.

[Mirek]

Had a little chat with few people. Some interesting things...

PG and Zdeněk Hrůza told me that there is a lot of ice and some little snow on SS2/4. Cold weather, so ice must stay there. I will be somewhere at the end of stage 2/4 tomorrow, so we'll see...

PG told me they have better engine now and that he really feels the difference. Anyway it still lacks a lot compared to other as we could see on shakedown. Protons have the only goal to finish the rally (with the number of SWRC competitors it's definitely right strategy...).

Ogiers car really is on Sachs dampers, not Reiger as usual Škoda cars. Don't know about Abbring. Both VW Fabias don't have any bang when shifting which is quite uncommon for Fabias.

Zdeněk also told me thy took shakedown very easy to save tyres. There is again less tyres for one event.

[N.O.T]

Two minutes there, no issue.



Again You point on wrong organization. FIA rules say supporter championship field must start together. ACM has nothing to do with that. They gave Abbring three minutes gap but it probably won't be enough on so long stages. Anyway Kevin wasn't angry at all. You will see soon in an interview.

i think its more of a safety issue rather than who is happy or not,

what stopped the ACM dropping cook down the order ?

[Mirek]

As I already said. She is PWRC competitor and MUST be seeded together with other PWRC competitors. That is given by rules.

[mousti]

True, seems logical, u get always priority when u enter those championship, that's one of the benefits when u enter and pay the fee. Yes it's not good for Abbring and don't like it too..

[N.O.T]

As I already said. She is PWRC competitor and MUST be seeded together with other PWRC competitors. That is given by rules.

what stopped them starting the SWRC first, then the PWRC ?

[N.O.T]

aaah abbring is not part of it....ok

[rallye-sport]

Photos of the ceremony starting here : Photos Rallye du Monte-Carlo 2012 (http://www.rallye-sport.fr/photos-rallye-du-monte-carlo-2012/)

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/photos-monte-carlo-2012/img_7099.jpg

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/photos-monte-carlo-2012/img_7121.jpg

[mousti]

Yep :D . And I think that problem will be every rally that she enters..

[gravelman]

Did petter lose a bet for the goatee??

[N.O.T]

were they allowed to interfere a few fast privateers between the SWRC and then start the PWRC ??? or the rules say that the cups must start first ???

[papipasto]

I don't know why my post has been deleted but the live results will be on the ACM website http://www.acm.mc (http://www.acm.mc/) they have a live results page !

[Mirek]

were they allowed to interfere a few fast privateers between the SWRC and then start the PWRC ??? or the rules say that the cups must start first ???

I think not. Anyway Abbring is not part of SWRC, neither is Ogier but he has a priority thanks to his overall victories so he is together with WRC guys...

[Viking]

45.3 START ORDER OF THE RALLY

45.3.1 P1 and P2 drivers
On gravel rallies, P1 and P2 drivers shall start the first section of the rally according to the position they
have chosen following the qualifying stage.
On asphalt rallies, P1 and P2 drivers shall start the first section of the rally in the order of the provisional
classification of the World Rally Championship for Drivers for the current year. For the first round of the
Championship, the start order shall be that of the final classification of the previous year. The FIA shall
decide the order of drivers who have not been classified in the previous World Rally Championship for Drivers.

45.3.2 P3 drivers
P3 drivers shall start the first section of the rally in the order of the provisional classification of their
respective Championships for the current year. For the first round of the Championship, the start order
shall be that of the final classification of the previous year. The FIA shall decide the order of drivers who
have not been classified in the previous year.

45.3.3 Other drivers
All other drivers shall start as recommended by the organiser.

[GINE]

So, no times for the Swrc cars on shakedown?

[Mirek]

PLuto is working on them ;)

[GINE]

Come on PLuto....... Thank you Mirek. Will you visit Greece for Acropolis Rally

[PLuto]

I have updated some shakedown times - Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=13262)

[Mirek]

Come on PLuto....... Thank you Mirek. Will you visit Greece for Acropolis Rally

Probably not but we will see.

[dimviii]

Probably not but we will see.

:D

[GINE]

I have updated some shakedown times - Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=13262)

That's fast....

[Fast Eddie WRC]

S2000 Ogier beats 9 WRC drivers in shakedown... thats class !

He could give an S2000 its best ever placing on a WRC event...

[N.O.T]

S2000 Ogier beats 9 WRC drivers in shakedown... thats class !

He could give an S2000 its best ever placing on a WRC event...

depends on who is going to faster from in the rally... those 9 WRCs are driven by B-C class drivers.

In the past many s2000 drivers were faster than WRCs.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

FORD Monte Carlo preview:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YR4dkavJJ8

[Negaiss]

Looks like Neuville has Loebs old car. So that means, that loeb has a compleatly new DS3. Will see, if its better. This is very good database of wrc cars, because new 1.6 t cars are included eWRC-results.com - Rally cars history (http://www.ewrc-results.com/cars.php?cid=12&title=Citroen-DS3-WRC)

[PLuto]

It is very difficult with database of cars. We were trying to work on s2000rally.com, but it is impossible to do it correctly, as lot of teams are changing plates and bodyshells... Thats one of the reasons why we have stopped the project...

[PLuto]

Some pictures from ceremonial start - Autosport : MS - Rallye Monte Carlo (SWRC+PWRC) (http://www.autosport.cz/zavody/fotogalerie.php?id=61&id=970&autor=25)

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/c580e884698473109e4ef0d69fcf55fc.jpghttp://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/af24ce23fea95a9471ecda8b84ed522d.jpg

[Andre Oliveira]

EWRC-results is a very complete database. If you want help in missing info, go to need help section.

[Mirek]

I can speak only about Fabia S2000 cars and the database of ewrc is not correct even though I don't know all cars. But I'm sure some records and even bodyshell numbers in the database are wrong.

[AndyRAC]

Some odds i've just seen for the Monte:

Loeb 1/2
Hirvonen 6/1
Latvala 7/1
Solberg P 10/1
Ogier 11/1
Sordo 25/1
Neuville 40/1
Delecour 66/1

Quite why Ogier is at 11/1 is anybody's guess. I presume they think he's in a WRCar....

[Halvis]

Come on mods open the pickem up again until midnight GMT (I pm'd to get mine included before the end of shakedown). Now we know that Henning and Matt are running it may affect some picks and it would be fair all round!

Rally start Thursday? Went in to make my pickems, just to see that the thread is closed...

Is it because its Monte, or is it new this year? Haven't followed up on the news obviously.

Kind of boring that the whole pickem season is over for me already before rally start on the first rally. Well, nothing to do about I guess.

[SubaruNorway]

Rally start Thursday? Went in to make my pickems, just to see that the thread is closed...

Is it because its Monte, or is it new this year? Haven't followed up on the news obviously.

Kind of boring that the whole pickem season is over for me already before rally start on the first rally. Well, nothing to do about I guess.

The rally starts in 8 hours 50min. 5 days this year you know, shakedown was today.

[bluuford]

Rally start Thursday? Went in to make my pickems, just to see that the thread is closed...

Is it because its Monte, or is it new this year? Haven't followed up on the news obviously.

Kind of boring that the whole pickem season is over for me already before rally start on the first rally. Well, nothing to do about I guess.

If you have missed everything then you can still start here:Sportmanager (http://www.sportmanager.ee/default.php?page=4&c=0)
The rules are only in Estonian but other things are also in english.You can predict your top 8 and if you want you can play teammanager game.It is free.
There you can get bonuses after each day and if you lock your team then you can get bonuses and points multiplied with 1.5 (after the end of rally). I enjoy it.

[Halvis]

The rally starts in 8 hours 50min. 5 days this year you know, shakedown was today.

No, I don´t know, that was the problem...

[Halvis]

If you have missed everything then you can still start here:Sportmanager (http://www.sportmanager.ee/default.php?page=4&c=0)
The rules are only in Estonian but other things are also in english.You can predict your top 8 and if you want you can play teammanager game.It is free.
There you can get bonuses after each day and if you lock your team then you can get bonuses and points multiplied with 1.5 (after the end of rally). I enjoy it.

Thanks for the info and offer - not sure if I will bother to start another project though..

[Luis Pacheco]

I miss the pickems as well... :mad:

[Andre Oliveira]

I can speak only about Fabia S2000 cars and the database of ewrc is not correct even though I don't know all cars. But I'm sure some records and even bodyshell numbers in the database are wrong.

I believe, but then if you can help in the help section has the email for communications errors and new data.

[PLuto]

Videointerviews with some drivers before start of Monte (Prokop, Delecour, Novikov, Cook, Abbring, Melichárek) - Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=13266)

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/6ded9b21583ef5b63a991db42379c163.jpg

[Plan9]

Does anyone know the link on the Eurosport website to watch their coverage of Monte Carlo online (when it starts of course)?

By the way, when will WRC.com get back up in running? I know that North One is ****ed but that website can still be useful in the interim.

[bretddog]

Eurosport schedule (http://tv.eurosport.co.uk/)
Don't expect wrc.com to be updated.
Live results: Rally Monte-Carlo Live Result (http://www.rallyliveresults.com/live/liveresult.php?type=CG)
rally radio: http://worldrallyradio.com

Colin Clark:
"Through SS1 max temp +1 min -4C. Dry in the majority, little damp in places, icey on just a couple of corners! No snow!!"

[Shacki]

I can speak only about Fabia S2000 cars and the database of ewrc is not correct even though I don't know all cars. But I'm sure some records and even bodyshell numbers in the database are wrong.

No database, no mistakes. It's easy just to say something it's not correct, if you know something else, you can contact me and help. You know how to do.

[bretddog]

Quinn:
"Off into the hills around the Valence to relay split times. Back to the 1970's. Modern timing technology on hold!"

fun! :)

[Livewireshock]

I am feeling good, World Rally Radio is beaming into my room loud and clear and I am all set for a great week of rally action. Hope it is an interesting Monte, it should be fun. Tyres look to be a huge gamble again this year. Might open up antics like Bouffier's efforts last year.

[Wim_Impreza]

As I already said. She is PWRC competitor and MUST be seeded together with other PWRC competitors. That is given by rules.

Why can she compete in PWRC with a Group A car? The P stays not for parking, but for production.

[Sulland]

I hope for and whish you all a fun and exiting 2012 season!

[MikeD]

For those who want to listen to WRR today...

iRally | The free independent Rally App for the iPhone, iPad and Android (http://www.irallylive.com/ir_home.htm#)

[bluuford]

NOKIA WRC app is working!!!! :-) I can see Loeb on the stage!
Strange.. Loeb behind Hirvionen in my map.. actually he stopped on my map

[jonkka]

I can't

[Fly]

SS2 today Rallye-Sport.fr | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/Rallye.Sport.fr) picture of stage 2. Some snow

[rage82]

Why can she compete in PWRC with a Group A car? The P stays not for parking, but for production.

She said that the car is gr. N prepared by M-sport in interview by autosport.cz.

[Fly]

According to rally-sport.fr, drivers start with 4 soft tires for ss1 and 2 studded tires inside the car for ss2.

[Viking]

Good morning wrc2012! :)

[René]

Good morning all WRC followers, and have nice Rally day.....

[Bruno Portela]

Good Morning everybody!!!! Greetings from Portugal!!!!

What's the running order?!?!?

[Leon]

Good morning all. anxious for the results of the 1st SS

[Wim_Impreza]

She said that the car is gr. N prepared by M-sport in interview by autosport.cz.

Thank you.

[muscrae]

Good morning guys, greetings from Turkey... Hope the best for the season..!!! :)

[rage82]

Good Morning everybody!!!! Greetings from Portugal!!!!

What's the running order?!?!?

Good morning to all of you! Starting order for the 1-st leg: http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-conten...t_section1.pdf

[Sulland]

Does the timing system that is in use in Monte the capability to give us splits?

[MikeD]

SS1: From 11 km to 20 km there is ice on stage one (source spectators reporting in to rally radio)

[Fox]

Good morning and hello to you all you WRC fans... Greetings from Romania !!!

[Jeppe]

Good morning to everyone! Will the 2012 season be amazing.

[rage82]

Does the timing system that is in use in Monte the capability to give us splits?

No splits for this rally. It's gonna be like the good all days.

[bluuford]

24:04 for Loeb
+14.9 for mikko

[MikeD]

SS1: Loeb is in - no problems. (2 sets of studs in the back)

[Wim_Impreza]

Good morning and hello to you all you WRC fans... Greetings from Romania !!!

Welcome here.

[muscrae]

Sébastien Loeb: "The next stage will be very complicated."

[Bartek]

Hirvo is coming, we lost Colin.... :)

[Bruno Portela]

Shouldn't the running order be the one out from the Shakedown Stage?!?!?

[MikeD]

24:04.0 Loeb
24:18.9 Hirvonen (-14:9 sec)

[bluuford]

SS1
24:04 for Loeb
+1 Sordo
+14.9 for mikko
+22.2 Latvala
+34.4 Solberg
+40.2 Campana
+42.9 Novikov
+48.5 Delecour
+ 58.3 Neuville
+1:10.1Tänak
+1:10.3 Prokop
+1:16.6 Araujo
+1:31.5 Maurin
+1:48.8 Wilson
+2:44.4 Merksteijn
+3:20.3 Henning
+3:26.7 Nobre

[Sardalense]

Shouldn't the running order be the one out from the Shakedown Stage?!?!?

Only in gravel rallys

[MikeD]

24:04.0 Loeb
24:18.9 Hirvonen (-14:9 sec)
24:26.2 Latvala (-22:2 sec)

[Rallyper]

This is ridiculous!!! In 2012 we move back to the stoneage. Shame on everyone in FIA, NOS, ACM!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Bruno Portela]

Loeb flying!!!!

[MikeD]

24:04.0 Loeb
24:18.9 Hirvonen (-14:9 sec)
24:26.2 Latvala (-22:2 sec)
24:38.4 P.Solberg (-34:4 sec)

[Bartek]

Also Rallyradio have problems with coverage...

[tiho86]

Hello from Serbia...Loeb fly :s mokin:

[RS]

Big gaps.

[MikeD]

24:04.0 Loeb
24:05.0 Sordo (-1:0 sec)
24:18.9 Hirvonen (-14:9 sec)
24:26.2 Latvala (-22:2 sec)
24:38.4 P.Solberg (-34:4 sec)
25:52.8 Slowson (-1:44.8who cares ... he's too slow)

uhhh Sordo is quick :)

[Fox]

Big fan of Loeb and Citroen... I see that he started this year in a great form !!! Well done... Go Loeb, Go Citroen !!!

[Bartek]

Wow, Come on DANI!! :)

[Ucci]

Yes, Loeb did it again in a great style!!! What a start in a new season. Go Seb, go!!!

[René]

Sordo time 24' 05

[Bruno Portela]

Vamos Sordo!!!!

[JTGANG]

Loeb done worse time than Sarrazin last year in the same stage so assume consitions must be much worse also.I think last year was completely dry in the 1st day

[EightGear]

Nice one of Sordo! Could have gone even quicker. :)

[Bruno Portela]

Where are you seeing the times?!?!?

[MikeD]

Where are you seeing the times?!?!?

We are not seeing them - we take them from the radio :)

[had_zachau]

bruno: http://www.rallyliveresults.com/live/liveresult.php?type=CG

[MR666]

Go Sordo you good thing go. Have to get Wilson to pull over and not hold him up.

Monte Carlo live is going very slow.

[Bartek]

Go Fast have good advertisement......

[Bruno Portela]

We are not seeing them - we take them from the radio :)

Like the good old days!!!! :D

[Doon]

Did Wilson go off? That's slow even for him!

[MikeD]

24:04.0 Loeb
24:05.0 Sordo (-1:0 sec)
24:18.9 Hirvonen (-14:9 sec)
24:26.2 Latvala (-22:2 sec)
24:38.4 P.Solberg (-34:4 sec)
24:46.9 E.Novikov (-42:9 sec)
25:14.1 Tänak (-1:10.1 sec)
25:52.8 Slowson (-1:44.8 sec - who cares ... he's too slow)

Tänak has passed HSolberg on SS1

Quick time for Novikov :)

[Livewireshock]

Hope they can discover the cause of interference for World Rally Radios coverage. Causing cut outs at the worst possible moments.

[René]

Where are you seeing the times?!?!?

Classements en direct | Best of Rally Live (http://www.best-of-rallylive.com/fr/classements-en-direct-live-time-position/)

[raybak]

Where are you seeing the times?!?!?

Live times and positions | Best of Rally Live (http://www.best-of-rallylive.com/en/classements-en-direct-live-time-position/)