What I miss -

[shazbot]

Green light to start the race
Sparks
Dernier Tour, Letzten Runde, Ultimo Giro
v12, v10,
20000 rpm
Turbo blow ups
130R
Lesmo 1 and 2
Stowe, Club and Abbey
The old days

Feel free to add to the list!

[Mark]

10 points for a race win.

[555-04Q2]

10 points for a race win.

Oh yes :up:

[Big Ben]

Whatever F1 was between 1996 and 2002. Passes were not impossible but neither too easy. Qualifying was kind of boring until the last 15 minutes but than I don't care much for q1 or q2 these days either. Rules were more simple and made much more sense. No cutting costs BS. No DRS. F1 today is a joke.

[schmenke]

Less interference from stewards.
10 - 6 - 4 - 3 - 2 - 1 points system.
Tire wars.
No restriction on tire choice.
Refueling.
Team Jordan.
Mika Hakkinen.
V-10 engines.
Racing in the rain.

[555-04Q2]

Less interference from stewards.
10 - 6 - 4 - 3 - 2 - 1 points system.
No restriction on tire choice.
Refueling.
Mika Hakkinen.
V-10 engines.
Racing in the rain.

Amen to your above choices :up:

[Shifter]

Wings that don't look goofy and out of proportion. I thought I didn't like it when the front wing was raised higher, but then 2009 rolled around and suddenly made 2008 cars look absolutely gorgeous.

Oh, and I really miss Imola.

[Koz]

Less interference from stewards.
10 - 6 - 4 - 3 - 2 - 1 points system.
Tire wars.
No restriction on tire choice.
Refueling.
Team Jordan.
Mika Hakkinen.
V-10 engines.
Racing in the rain.

Add to that:
Fast Eddie, Kimi Raikkonen and Flavio.

[steveaki13]

Less penalties
Less steward involvement
Any engine type. V8,V10 or V12.
Tyre wars
Fully turned up engines and no limits on cost.
30 car entries into 26 grid placings.
1 hour Qualifying
No Parc Ferme rules
Sunday Warm Up
Full rain races.
10-6-4-3-2-1 Points system.
Adelaide
Imola
Monaco (with all barriers in place)
Eau Rouge as was.
The old Bus stop at Spa
130 R as was.
Hockenheim as was.
Engine Blow ups.
Manual Gear Change
Cars hard to handle.

I think thats it for now

[ioan]

Less penalties
Less steward involvement
Any engine type. V8,V10 or V12.
Tyre wars
Fully turned up engines and no limits on cost.
30 car entries into 26 grid placings.
1 hour Qualifying
No Parc Ferme rules
Sunday Warm Up
Full rain races.
10-6-4-3-2-1 Points system.
Adelaide
Imola
Monaco (with all barriers in place)
Eau Rouge as was.
The old Bus stop at Spa
130 R as was.
Hockenheim as was.
Engine Blow ups.
Manual Gear Change
Cars hard to handle.

I think thats it for now

You sure aren't easy to please! ;)

[AndyRAC]

Less penalties
Less steward involvement
Any engine type. V8,V10 or V12.
Tyre wars
Fully turned up engines and no limits on cost.
30 car entries into 26 grid placings.
1 hour Qualifying
No Parc Ferme rules
Sunday Warm Up
Full rain races.
10-6-4-3-2-1 Points system.
Adelaide
Imola
Monaco (with all barriers in place)
Eau Rouge as was.
The old Bus stop at Spa
130 R as was.
Hockenheim as was.
Engine Blow ups.
Manual Gear Change
Cars hard to handle.

I think thats it for now

For now...?????

Ha ha, before 'The Show' took over......

There was a time from the mid/late 80's to the late 90's when I wouldn't miss a race - now I'll follow it but on Sunday I was far more interested in the Nurburgring 24 Hours. F1 is now more style than substance.

[steveaki13]

You sure aren't easy to please! ;)

Unlike all of the casual viewers, who enjoy what we have now. ;)

[steveaki13]

For now...?????

Ha ha, before 'The Show' took over......

There was a time from the mid/late 80's to the late 90's when I wouldn't miss a race - now I'll follow it but on Sunday I was far more interested in the Nurburgring 24 Hours. F1 is now more style than substance.

Absolutley. The show ruins F1.

[tfp]

What I miss? Mika Hakkinen:-)

[tfp]

Absolutley. The show ruins F1.

+1 I too cant be arsed with all the gimmicks that come with F1 - I want to see a race, not a bloody catwalk:-)

[shazbot]

A few more -
Proper long running driver rivalry
pre-qualifying
Katayama and his wobbly head
Tyrrell
Lotus
Ignoring blue flags - you just gotta find a way past
Qualifying engines
Qualifying chassis
Removing the pop off valve, screwing on a 1/4" blanking plate, send it and hope it'll last one qually lap.

[SGWilko]

What I miss?

Nothing - because I am a good shot!!! :rotflmao:

[emporer_k]

Standing starts in the wet
old Hockenheim
Murray Walkers commentry
Refueling
Overtakes being made without the help of gimmiky devices
Being younger than the WDC

[MrJan]

Wah wah wahhhhh!! Do F1 fans ever shut up and stop moaning? 5 years ago everyone was moaning about the changes we'd had. Before that people were moaning about changes....before that people were moaning about no turbos.

None of this crap is coming back in a hurry, why can't y'all just stfu and watch the racing?

[Big Ben]

you mean watch THE SHOW

[MrJan]

you mean watch THE SHOW

No, I'm adult enough to see it for what it is and accept it. So many posters whine on here about drivers being immature for complaining about things....the hypocrisy is hillarious.

In case you were wondering: Race - a contest of speed (from dictionary.com). Is an average speed of over 120mph enough to be considered a contest of speed? I'd say so, in that case it's a race. Wahh waahhhh wahhhh. The naughty Mr Ecclestone and the FIA took away everything, they're so mean. I want them to be racing horse and carts like they did in the old days....stupid FIA.

[Big Ben]

No, I'm adult enough to see it for what it is and accept it. So many posters whine on here about drivers being immature for complaining about things....the hypocrisy is hillarious.

In case you were wondering: Race - a contest of speed (from dictionary.com). Is an average speed of over 120mph enough to be considered a contest of speed? I'd say so, in that case it's a race. Wahh waahhhh wahhhh. The naughty Mr Ecclestone and the FIA took away everything, they're so mean. I want them to be racing horse and carts like they did in the old days....stupid FIA.

easy big fella'. I don't want you to have a stroke or something. F1 is just great the way it is that's why they keep fixing it. Happy? Now go wipe those tears and blow your nose.

[555-04Q2]

Wah wah wahhhhh!! Do F1 fans ever shut up and stop moaning? 5 years ago everyone was moaning about the changes we'd had. Before that people were moaning about changes....before that people were moaning about no turbos.

None of this crap is coming back in a hurry, why can't y'all just stfu and watch the racing?

Or you could just let everyone moan, beg, cry etc and not comment about it or read it ;)

Your problem is solved :p :

[shazbot]

C'mon guys this was meant to be a bit of fun. Why do all threads have to degenerate to tit for tat sniping? :( Some good posts before that though!

[schmenke]

No, I'm adult enough to see it for what it is and accept it. So many posters whine on here about drivers being immature for complaining about things....the hypocrisy is hillarious.

In case you were wondering: Race - a contest of speed (from dictionary.com). Is an average speed of over 120mph enough to be considered a contest of speed? I'd say so, in that case it's a race. Wahh waahhhh wahhhh. The naughty Mr Ecclestone and the FIA took away everything, they're so mean. I want them to be racing horse and carts like they did in the old days....stupid FIA.

Why is it hypocrisy :s ? Why can’t fans reminisce about what they feel were more enjoyable days of F1. No one is suggesting that these elements will ever return to F1. We’re just having a bit of fun :mark: .

[schmenke]

A few more -
...Qualifying engines
Qualifying chassis
...

...and a six-car grid :mark: .

[MrJan]

C'mon guys this was meant to be a bit of fun. Why do all threads have to degenerate to tit for tat sniping? :( Some good posts before that though!

I like some of the personality ones, e.g Murray or Mika, and the ones that are a bit nostalgic (for example I miss the old graphics, like this) http://www.theaveragegamer.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/F1_97_Hill.jpg

but the rule change stuff could just go on forever and it's not particularly interesting to read. We all know that people don't like DRS/KERS, like V10s, liked turbos etc. etc. And in amongst a board that is pretty much filled with that sort of discussion it's just another patch of grey in what's already becoming a fairly tedious pot of turd. I'm fed up with it TBH, you seemingly can't have a topic at the minute that doesn't have someone bitching about DRS.

[555-04Q2]

Exactly schmenke! It is nice to look back at what was and compare it to what now is. It shows where things have improved for the better, stayed the same or changed for the worse.

[MrJan]

Why is it hypocrisy :s ?

Because the endless complaining about DRS or the new shape wings is fairly similar to the endless complaining we hear from some of the drivers.

[555-04Q2]

And in amongst a board that is pretty much filled with that sort of discussion it's just another patch of grey in what's already becoming a fairly tedious pot of turd. I'm fed up with it TBH, you seemingly can't have a topic at the minute that doesn't have someone bitching about DRS.

Then don't read the threads / posts.

[MrJan]

Then don't read the threads / posts.

Thanks for your insightful and extremely helpful comments :rolleyes:

My point is that all the decent debate, the ocassions when the forum is informative and enjoyable, are increasingly rare as more and more threads seem to end up in the same old places. I like reading this forum, I find it useful too, but it's getting to the stage where there's no point following a thread beyond the 2nd page because it's just going to be the same old ****e.

[555-04Q2]

Thanks for your insightful and extremely helpful comments :rolleyes:

My point is that all the decent debate, the ocassions when the forum is informative and enjoyable, are increasingly rare as more and more threads seem to end up in the same old places. I like reading this forum, I find it useful too, but it's getting to the stage where there's no point following a thread beyond the 2nd page because it's just going to be the same old ****e.

It's impossible to make everyone happy in life ;)

There are plenty of insightful and fun threads on this forum. Choose those and bypass the ones you don't like.

[schmenke]

Because the endless complaining about DRS or the new shape wings is fairly similar to the endless complaining we hear from some of the drivers.

I don't disagree Miguel, but that's not the point of this particular thread.

[MrJan]

I don't disagree Miguel, but that's not the point of this particular thread.

I'm not complaining about the thread per se (as I said, I miss quite a lot of the old touches and parts of F1), just some of the posts. To my mind there's no real point to reminicising about how much we miss grooved tyres or ground effect etc. F1 rules change so much and so often that it's just not worth the effort.

@ 555 - how do I choose which threads to bypass without reading them? It's only once I've read them that I can see that they've slipped off topic to the same ol' same ol'.

[555-04Q2]

555 - how do I choose which threads to bypass without reading them? It's only once I've read them that I can see that they've slipped off topic to the same ol' same ol'.

Easy! If the subject line of the thread is not of interest or annoys you, skip it. If you start to page through a thread and it sucks according to you, stop on page 2 or 3 and don't read the other 50 pages :p :

No charge for these handy tips :p :

[MrJan]

Easy! If the subject line of the thread is not of interest or annoys you, skip it. If you start to page through a thread and it sucks according to you, stop on page 2 or 3 and don't read the other 50 pages :p :

No charge for these handy tips :p :

Which is what I do, and it seems like every other thread I end up avoiding, thus meaning that I actually miss out on some nice little pieces of info/discussion by about page 25 because pages 3 through 23 are taken by posts from the Immovable Object and the Unstoppable Force.

[Firstgear]

Why has nobody mentioned Mad Max? :p

[Bagwan]

Which is what I do, and it seems like every other thread I end up avoiding, thus meaning that I actually miss out on some nice little pieces of info/discussion by about page 25 because pages 3 through 23 are taken by posts from the Immovable Object and the Unstoppable Force.

Are you straying a little off topic ?

This is about what we miss .

I miss Ste Devote .
I miss Tamburello .
I miss Austin Brammer .

I miss Jacques .

[steveaki13]

you mean watch THE SHOW

We must all love the Show. Thats whats important, not an even playing field, or sporting challenge, its just the wonderful show. I won't moan when the FIA introduce the sprinklers and ballast and one race holidays for run away leaders. ;)

[Big Ben]

We must all love the Show. Thats whats important, not an even playing field, or sporting challenge, its just the wonderful show. I won't moan when the FIA introduce the sprinklers and ballast and one race holidays for run away leaders. ;)

don´t forget that otherwise fullahate is gonna smack you in the head for bitching about things you hate. you must love the things you hate. suck it up and take it like a man... and take all the crap you're given...

actually it didn´t bother me I missed the last couple of races but am going to say f1 as it is now is the best racing ever just to keep fullahate happy. After all this is what si forum is all about, agreeing with him.

[ioan]

Wah wah wahhhhh!! Do F1 fans ever shut up and stop moaning? 5 years ago everyone was moaning about the changes we'd had. Before that people were moaning about changes....before that people were moaning about no turbos.

None of this crap is coming back in a hurry, why can't y'all just stfu and watch the racing?

barry full of it strikes back! :rotflmao:

BTW, not all of us eat whatever lands on our table!
You know it's a question of standards, first you have to have some, then we can talk! :p



No, I'm adult enough to see it for what it is and accept it.

Again, the way I see it it's all about standards, or lack of them.

[ioan]

easy big fella'. I don't want you to have a stroke or something. F1 is just great the way it is that's why they keep fixing it. Happy? Now go wipe those tears and blow your nose.

:laugh: :up:

[ioan]

Thanks for your insightful and extremely helpful comments :rolleyes:

Hate to bring it to you, but he is fully right!

[ioan]

Why has nobody mentioned Mad Max? :p

That's a very good one! :D

[shazbot]

I thought of another one!
Autosport magazine before it turned into a tabloid.