Catalunya 2011

[hype]

Hello,

is there any info if the Catalunya will be tarmac only again?
Last year they said it will be 50/50, but then I read they want to go back to 100% tarmac.
Does someone know why?

Regards,
hype

[General Prim]

Hello,

is there any info if the Catalunya will be tarmac only again?
Last year they said it will be 50/50, but then I read they want to go back to 100% tarmac.
Does someone know why?

Regards,
hype

It will be like last year, just a few changes: first leg mixed gravel/tarmac then only asphalt

[hype]

Alright, thank you.
Unfortunately I won't be able to visit Catalunya this year :-(

[106 sport]

IN FEW DAYS THE ITINERARY WILL BE RELEASED...For this edition we could to expect about 18-22 WRC apart form SWRC and PWRC drivers...

[Atob WRC]

IN FEW DAYS THE ITINERARY WILL BE RELEASED...For this edition we could to expect about 18-22 WRC apart form SWRC and PWRC drivers...

The rally guide 1 has been published, but finally the maps and itineraries will be published on 10th of June, after the presentations on Salou and Barcelone.

Best regards!

[jbmarcus21]

program is out Programme du Rallye Wrc d'Espagne-Catalogne 2011 (http://bit.ly/iwJrBD) 406.52kms !!!!!

[N.O.T]

great route !!!

[SubaruNorway]

Do people recommend doing this? I've heard it's quite relaxed and first day on gravel and half of shakedown makes it interesting for me.
What can you compare the gravel sections to? Any jumps/watersplashes?

[Salist]

Regulations:
http://www.rallyracc.com/2011/descargas/reglamento_ing.pdf

[Salist]

Catalunya Rally 2010


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nRUG7682HE

[MartijnS]

We liked it and its cheap to visit.

[Salist]

Special Stage - Terra Alta


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0OEYsUBcbg&feature=related

Special Stage - Les Garrigues


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=choPg32pAxQ&feature=related

[mousti]

We liked it and its cheap to visit.
That's why we are going this year :D

[hype]

I liked the Catalunya 2010 very much.
It's quite cheap to visit and the Spanish are very friendly and relaxed.

I think the landscape is much more different and more interesting than in France.
France 2010 was like forest, forest, oh a forest! and forest again ;)

I'd really love to go there again this year...

[106 sport]

Hi.

which number of wrc do we expect in this rally Spain-Cataluña ??


Regards.

[106 sport]

Hi.

which number of wrc do we expect in this rally Spain-Cataluña ??


Regards.


I personally expect between 18-22 wrc :D

[106 sport]

Do you expect any surprise's entry?

[Griff]

Hi everyone, does anyone have any info about the new gravel stages on day 1? I have been to Catalunya 4 years running and 2005 but only on day 2 and 3. We are thinking about doing Friday afternoon and then the next 2 days, so any info welcome.
Thanks in advance.
BTW great experience every year.

[106 sport]

Do you expect any surprise's entry?


And we have less time to rally... :)

[Gregor-y]

So this being Spain how likely will Sordo be there with a MINI? I'd think that would be the main reason to go.

[106 sport]

Today will be the Closing date for Entries...

Should we expect any surprise ??? ;)

[Barreis]

The only surprise will be if Solberg or Sordo wins the rally.

[cvhi]

Do you have entry list probably ?

[Salist]

Google Earth map from JBMarcus:
http://planetemarcus.free.fr/RallyRACC%20Catalunya%20-%20Costa%20Daurada%202011%20(by%20Dimitri%20Dusart ).kmz

[Salist]

Rally Guide 2
RallyRACC (http://asp.rallyracc.com/2011/ingles/login.asp?go=guide2.asp)

[Hartusvuori]

Räikkönen to miss Catalunya too?

Googlish it: Räikkönen ei osallistu Espanjan ralliin? - MTV3.fi - Urheilu - Ralli - Uutiset (http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/ralli/uutiset.shtml/2011/09/1395107/raikkonen-ei-osallistu-espanjan-ralliin)

[N.O.T]

oh well...

LOL..

[devendorf]

Räikkönen to miss Catalunya too?


FIA released list of manufacturer entries. Would be big surprise to see Kimi there after he is excluded...

[tfp]

FIA released list of manufacturer entries. Would be big surprise to see Kimi there after he is excluded...

He has obviously given up now...

[MJW]

No, ICE1 Racing wont be there, Kimi will enter as a private entrant, what is published today is manufacturer entries.

[Hartusvuori]

No, ICE1 Racing wont be there, Kimi will enter as a private entrant, what is published today is manufacturer entries.

Could be so. That piece of news is then obviously written on assumptions based on lack of knowledge. But - how common practice is to release first manu entries at FIA site and then later the rest? I know I should follow the FIA site more.

[MJW]

Could be so. That piece of news is then obviously written on assumptions based on lack of knowledge. But - how common practice is to release first manu entries at FIA site and then later the rest? I know I should follow the FIA site more.
Always, FIA team entries first, then a few days later full entry list.

[mousti]

He has obviously given up now...

Don't think so, he yesterday tested for Rallye de France..

[Plan9]

So this being Spain how likely will Sordo be there with a MINI? I'd think that would be the main reason to go.

I am sure he will be there. Fingers crossed for a win!!!!

[Plan9]

He has obviously given up now...
I don't get it either, why can't he be motivated for ANYTHING! He is letting down his fans hard. I had hopes when he started in the WRC he would actually make a go of it. I thought that his failure to attend Rally NZ 2010 or Australia this year was indicative on his lack of commitment.

[DonJippo]

I don't get it either, why can't he be motivated for ANYTHING! He is letting down his fans hard.

Kimi will drive as private entry and like been said several times list released is for manufactures entries only.

[MartijnS]

We booked flights etc. yesterday :) Arriving wednesday early afternoon, leaving sunday night :)

[mousti]

We booked flights etc. yesterday :) Arriving wednesday early afternoon, leaving sunday night :)
We'll do the same thing, so we could watch the shakedown also :) .

We'll probably see u there then!? :)

Cheers Bram

[MartijnS]

Yeah probably. Maybe the same flight, we fly from Charleroi.

[mousti]

Yeah probably. Maybe the same flight, we fly from Charleroi.
Yep indeed, I'm almost 100 % sure it'll be the same flight :D

[mousti]

Novikov will probably start with a DS3 WRC here in Spain.

[MJW]

Novikov will probably start with a DS3 WRC here in Spain. Using Kimi's car?

[N.O.T]

change of team ?? very nice....

[bluuford]

"willy" ran out of Fiestas?

[106 sport]

Using Kimi's car?

I think Kimi will be in spain with his DS3

[MJW]

I think Kimi will be in spain with his DS3
Unless he signs for Williams F1 and they remember what happened to Kubica and put conditions on any 2012 contract? I hope Kimi is in Spain and GB

[mousti]

change of team ?? very nice....
He wants to see the differences between the cars, although I don't think u have to drive to see the differences :D

[Walach]

Agree mousti.
Firstly he should change his pacenotes, not the car.

[tolis]

Rally Spain Entry List published: http://www.rallyracc.com/2011/descargas/inscritos2011.pdf
62 entries, 19 WRC, 15 S2000!

[Mirek]

And Breen in Brynildsen's entry...

[Diegotest]

Aaron Burkart will run three-days testing in Italy to prepare the next Catalunya Rally, as written on website TestRally.com (http://www.testrally.com) ;) ;)

[106 sport]

Rally Spain Entry List published: http://www.rallyracc.com/2011/descargas/inscritos2011.pdf
62 entries, 19 WRC, 15 S2000!


You are wrong... :) There are 20 WRC (Look at Campana's entry...)

By other hand, it is a amazing entry list. I am going to enjoy so much :D

[tolis]

You are wrong... :) There are 20 WRC (Look at Campana's entry...)

By other hand, it is a amazing entry list. I am going to enjoy so much :D
You are right 106 sport! Sorry. ;)

[106 sport]

You are right 106 sport! Sorry. ;)

OK ;)

[MartijnS]

Good entry! :D Much better than last year.

[Langdale Forest]

It could be a very interesting rally in Spain.

Sordo and Petter Solberg will have a good road position advantage on day 1s gravel stages, and Ogier and Loeb will fall behind but will probably struggle to catch up with the Minis of Sordo and Meek because of the're day 1 road position.

The Fords of JML and Mikko Slowvonen will probably be off the pace compared to the Citroens.

[Barreis]

Hope Loeb will win.

[N.O.T]

This rally will be more about survival and avoiding punctures and less about raw speed....

Very long route and 4 huge stages....

[Plan9]

Interesting that Villagra is on the list. He hasn't done many rallies of late.

Chopping is gay

[6789]

iRally is quoting a Ford press release for Spain saying that they arent doing any pre event testing. Mikko is ready for the fight but, that's what it says anyway lol

[Juha_Koo]

iRally is quoting a Ford press release for Spain saying that they arent doing any pre event testing. Mikko is ready for the fight but, that's what it says anyway lol

Totally incredible. I wonder, is it Ford's lack of logic or lack of money?

[6789]

Totally incredible. I wonder, is it Ford's lack of logic or lack of money?

I think manufacturers are limited to testing days? Someone might know that, 16 o so isn't it? So could be that they haven't nominated this test slot, you'd hope that they didn't decide to just not test. Hope they're competitive

[Priorat]

For those attending Ral·li Catalunya there is a little guide in the official website:
RallyRACC (http://www.rallyracc.com/2011/catalan/guia_tramos.html)

[Viking]

I think manufacturers are limited to testing days? Someone might know that, 16 o so isn't it? So could be that they haven't nominated this test slot, you'd hope that they didn't decide to just not test. Hope they're competitive

66.3.2 In the case of a Manufacturer, for a maximum of 10 sessions (as defined in Article 2.20)
comprising a maximum of 42 days in any calendar year.

[N.O.T]

Unless he signs for Williams F1 and they remember what happened to Kubica and put conditions on any 2012 contract? I hope Kimi is in Spain and GB

to compare Kubica with kimi just shows you know nothing....

[6789]

66.3.2 In the case of a Manufacturer, for a maximum of 10 sessions (as defined in Article 2.20)
comprising a maximum of 42 days in any calendar year.

Thanks for that, so probably isnt that different for Ford to not be testing. That'd be why they normally do sessions of 4 days.

Great info :)

[Salist]

Could anyone recommend some good spectator points?

[bluuford]

To bring everybody back to the mood I did some calculations.
Current points
Loeb 196
Hirvonen 196
Ogier 193

Points without powerstages:
Hirvonen 182
Ogier 179
Loeb 178

Powerstage points:
Loeb 18
Hirvonen 14
Ogier 14
Latvala 12
Solberg 6
Sordo 2

And just for comparision I calculated the points with 2009 system
Hirvonen 76
Loeb 73
Ogier 72

So, at the end of day we have huge numbers but the difference is nearly the same (without powerstages):-)

[dimviii]

To bring everybody back to the mood I did some calculations.
Current points
Loeb 196
Hirvonen 196
Ogier 193

Points without powerstages:
Hirvonen 182
Ogier 179
Loeb 178

Powerstage points:
Loeb 18
Hirvonen 14
Ogier 14
Latvala 12
Solberg 6
Sordo 2

And just for comparision I calculated the points with 2009 system
Hirvonen 76
Loeb 73
Ogier 72

So, at the end of day we have huge numbers but the difference is nearly the same (without powerstages):-)

very interesting calculation!

[Priorat]

Could anyone recommend some good spectator points?

From the spectator guide RallyRACC (http://www.rallyracc.com/2011/ingles/guia_tramos.html)
I would recommend ZP4 in SS1 and ZP5 in SS2. In ZP5 there is a bit of everything: change tarmac-gravel, twisty section on gravel, little jumps 600 metres to the right, scenic view under an ermitage on dirty old tarmac 500 metres to the left, and a water splash 1,5 km to the left. The place will be quite popular and short of parking, what means a bit of walking, so be early.

[MartijnS]

Nice area indeed! We went there last year, didn't have to walk that far but we were there early indeed :) Went to the right and found this spot about 20 mins uphill I think. http://www.rallymedia.nl/images/2010/rallydeespana/Sordo%203.jpg

[Fri]

Nice area indeed! We went there last year, didn't have to walk that far but we were there early indeed :) Went to the right and found this spot about 20 mins uphill I think. http://www.rallymedia.nl/images/2010/rallydeespana/Sordo%203.jpg

Is it on ZP5?
thnx!

[Priorat]

Is it on ZP5?
thnx!

Yes, it is one of those little jumps.

[6789]

What are the officials like in Spain? Let you go anywhere you like or quite strict?

[br21]

What are the officials like in Spain? Let you go anywhere you like or quite strict?

in my opinion it's one of most spectator friendly events in whole wrc calendar. you can go almost anywhere you want, of course if you're not doing stupid things

[Jafry]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2011/950/950_rallyracc_catalunya_costa_daurada_2011_c443e50 fd8.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2011/950/950_rallyracc_catalunya_costa_daurada_2011_7d4fb3a 023.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2011/950/950_rallyracc_catalunya_costa_daurada_2011_847807d 593.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2011/950/950_rallyracc_catalunya_costa_daurada_2011_38c3b7a c33.jpg

More photos from Spain before start HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=950&fseason=2011)

[pete c]

Great atmosphere photos....luv your work

[Camelopard]

Great atmosphere photos....luv your work

+1

[rage82]

Shakedown has started. Here you can follow the live results: http://www.rallyracc.com/2011/ingles/online.html

[bluuford]

There is something wrong with those results :-) looks like some are still recceing the stage :-P

[AP-Racing]

There is something wrong with those results :-) looks like some are still recceing the stage :-P

Maybe someone lost lap and go to wrong route?

[rp]

On Thursday 20th October, day of the Shakedown, the first passage of the shakedown will be used for taking notes...

[AP-Racing]

Oh...thanks....understand

[Sulland]

But for once a good site, that has live timing from shakedown ! More rallies should do that !!

[6789]

On Thursday 20th October, day of the Shakedown, the first passage of the shakedown will be used for taking notes...
:)

Great to follow the passes, looks like they're on the first 'competitive' pass now

[dimviii]

But for once a good site, that has live timing from shakedown ! More rallies should do that !!

+1

[noel157]

Is SD on gravel or asphalt? Or both?

[bluuford]

Last year it was mixed, I guess it is the same

[AP-Racing]

Loeb's time - it's impossible

[noel157]

Thanks Bluu.

[6789]

Loeb's time - it's impossible
Whats impossible?

[AP-Racing]

2.6 sec to others

[6789]

Villagra quickest now!

[Hartusvuori]

Villagra quickest now!

Retiring from WRC with style... fastest on shakedown midway :-)

But shakedown timings should've been like this on every rally. Wrc.com - wakey wakey. For next year this kind of timing should be mandatory.

[banksy87]

Impressive from Villagra! Yes only shakedown but still, good for him!

The live shakedown timing site is one of the best ive seen. Try and follow WRC online splits all the time and its so frustrating. wrc.com needs to learn from this!

Agree it should be a must have for next year (shakedown timing), after all next year its a official qualifying session! ;)

[GINE]

Last year it was mixed, I guess it is the same


Is it mix? Does anybody know?

[dimviii]

Is it mix? Does anybody know?

Its gravel and asphalt and is same as last year.
http://www.rallyracc.com/2011/descargas/diferencias_tramos.pdf
Lambros tell us some about Catalunya roads,what was difficult, some points etc.

[Iskald]

The Fords of JML and Mikko Slowvonen will probably be off the pace compared to the Citroens.

Slowvonen? Thats a new one....Let me remind you that the man is currently tied for the lead of the World Championship.
I agree its possible to discuss whether Mikko Hirvonen could be faster or not. But to call one of the fastest rally drivers in the world, "slow"...! Lack of proper respect IMHO

[Hartusvuori]

The latest issue of Vauhdin Maailma magazine rumoured how Ogier's manager Kim Vatanen is currently banned from accessing the Citroen Sport's area at the service park - which for the record is the first Finnish press origin rumour on this Ogier-Loeb war. If anyone present at the rally and SP, if you see Kim Vatanen, take notice on this and report :-)

[Hartusvuori]

Villagra is on the run!
http://www.wrc.com/news/villagra-allowed-to-recce-late/?fid=15587

[dimviii]

ss No 13-14-16-17 and 2-5 are same as previoys year.Stage 2-5 is mixed(gravel-asphalt)
Can t wait....

[dimviii]

Petter fastest till now

[cali]

Slowvonen? Thats a new one....Let me remind you that the man is currently tied for the lead of the World Championship.
I agree its possible to discuss whether Mikko Hirvonen could be faster or not. But to call one of the fastest rally drivers in the world, "slow"...! Lack of proper respect IMHO
Agreed, amazing phenomenon going on here

[tolis]

Hunt rolled in SD!!!

[pete c]

Hi ....any pic /video of shakedown?

cheers
pete

[dimviii]

Hi ....any pic /video of shakedown?

cheers
pete

Come on Jafry!

he is always the faster with photos :D

[tolis]

Come on Jafry!

he is always the faster with photos :D
4 VM photos
http://www.facebook.com/vmmotorsport

[Jafry]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2011/950/950_rallyracc_catalunya_costa_daurada_2011_35b8d00 83e.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2011/950/950_rallyracc_catalunya_costa_daurada_2011_e17432b bd5.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2011/950/950_rallyracc_catalunya_costa_daurada_2011_47dd7bd 73d.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2011/950/950_rallyracc_catalunya_costa_daurada_2011_95a1e91 06f.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2011/950/950_rallyracc_catalunya_costa_daurada_2011_a6d0e97 137.jpg

More photos from shakedown HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=950&fseason=2011)

[tolis]

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/310531_301201173240219_165727520120919_1242017_851 843660_n.jpg
Harry Hunt:
So...this probably wasn't the best way to start the Catalunya Rally! But it will all polish out. Bit of a roll during the shakedown: we were only going to do one run! Everything's going to be fine for the rally but the guys have got a bit of work to do now. Still, they didn't really want to spend the afternoon sitting by the pool really.

[Micke_VOC]

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/310531_301201173240219_165727520120919_1242017_851 843660_n.jpg
Harry Hunt:
So...this probably wasn't the best way to start the Catalunya Rally! But it will all polish out. Bit of a roll during the shakedown: we were only going to do one run! Everything's going to be fine for the rally but the guys have got a bit of work to do now. Still, they didn't really want to spend the afternoon sitting by the pool really.

As usual , Mr Action himself.
Harry Hunt=)

[Doon]

Craig Breen 2nd in SWRC cars, faster than both VW drivers. I'm betting he'll be quicker in the rally too, but remember he's just a good national driver according to NOT. I really hope he kicks Tanak, Hanninen, and the VW's arses.

[GINE]

Its gravel and asphalt and is same as last year.
http://www.rallyracc.com/2011/descargas/diferencias_tramos.pdf
Lambros tell us some about Catalunya roads,what was difficult, some points etc.

If the tarmac sections are the same as 2009, it is generaly wide and with good grip in most of the stages. you need a clean smooth driving. There are some point where you could cut, but the stop it with concrete blocks, so it is a proper tarmac rally with the minimum dirt and gravel on the road. I think that the car plays an important roll to this rally. Meaning that the right setup and the higher engine power will help you more than in dirty sliperry tarmac roads of other wrc rounds

[Bobcat]

The latest issue of Vauhdin Maailma magazine rumoured how Ogier's manager Kim Vatanen is currently banned from accessing the Citroen Sport's area at the service park - which for the record is the first Finnish press origin rumour on this Ogier-Loeb war. If anyone present at the rally and SP, if you see Kim Vatanen, take notice on this and report :-)

AUTOhebdo.fr | Ogier respectera-t-il les consignes ? (http://www.autohebdo.fr/rallye/wrc/article-26-1-8498/201011-ogier-respectera-t-il-les-consignes-)

[dimviii]

look at front/rear suspension travel at same corner
http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=950&fseason=2011

http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=950&fseason=2011

http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=950&fseason=2011

[dimviii]

If the tarmac sections are the same as 2009, it is generaly wide and with good grip in most of the stages. you need a clean smooth driving. There are some point where you could cut, but the stop it with concrete blocks, so it is a proper tarmac rally with the minimum dirt and gravel on the road. I think that the car plays an important roll to this rally. Meaning that the right setup and the higher engine power will help you more than in dirty sliperry tarmac roads of other wrc rounds


Thanks Lambros! Now tell us your guess about first 3 on podium :D

ps i was just looking stage by stage your 2009 Catalunya and i can say that you were faster than C.Breen with fiesta r2! :eek:

[Fri]

pictures from shakedown:
http://www.rallysport.hu/images/2011/photo/wrc/12_spanyol/01_fri_teszt/index.htm

video soon

[MartijnS]

Ive got some photos of the Shakedown uploaded at our Facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/rallymedia !

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/312142_172341336187177_102597653161546_368321_1753 207643_n.jpg

[pete c]

hey thanks guys, bloody great photos and information.
This is the best site for getting the rally fix

cheers
pete

[dimviii]

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.172340516187259.46766.102597653161546&type=3#!/photo.php?fbid=172341609520483&set=a.172340516187259.46766.102597653161546&type=3&theater

[dimviii]

Wilson added: "The one thing we absolutely have to do is stop Loeb from winning the rally and winning the power stage, that can't happen - if it does, it's over for us. This is Mikko's chance, it's another chance of a lifetime. He's come a long way as a driver since he was in a similar position in 2009, but he's got to make the next two rallies count."

Wilson not so pleased.Maybe rumors for Mikkos exit from Ford have sense?

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/95540

[tolis]

That's for you Dimitris: http://www.almrally.ru/novikov-photo/fotolist/?idgroup=22284
Novikov's photos from your favourite photographer! :D

[tolis]

A video from SD: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZErp1iRdxw
Al Rajhi's roll: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvPTaKZIMS0

[dimviii]

That's for you Dimitris: http://www.almrally.ru/novikov-photo/fotolist/?idgroup=22284
Novikov's photos from your favourite photographer! :D

3 Martin Holmes annually Pirelli rallying for you.I have double the issues No 25-28-32.Phone me to arrange a cafe to give them. :D

[GINE]

Thanks Lambros! Now tell us your guess about first 3 on podium :D

ps i was just looking stage by stage your 2009 Catalunya and i can say that you were faster than C.Breen with fiesta r2! :eek:

We had a good battle until he had a problem. He is very fast and young driver. if he can stay in the wrc rallies, he can become a very good driver. Lets see his speed with the s2000 car. I am expecting top three times from him in spain.


Top three is very difficult.... I will go for risky choise: Latvala, Sordo, Loeb
S2000:Tanak, Hanninen, Breen,

[dimviii]

We had a good battle until he had a problem.,
Untill the stage he had problem that he lost a lot of time, you were clearly ahead.



Top three is very difficult.... I will go for risky choise: Latvala, Sordo, Loeb,
No way Lambros!!!!!!. Mine is Loeb,Ogier,Hirvonen




S2000:Tanak, Hanninen, Breen,
Agree.

[Fomchenkov Andrey]

My photo from Spain:
Schakedown. RACC Rally de Espana 2011 (http://www.worldrally.ru/gallery.php?album=186)
Atmosphere. RACC Rally de Espana 2011 (http://www.worldrally.ru/gallery.php?album=185)

[Allyc85]

^great photos!

This one made me smile :)

http://www.worldrally.ru/detail_foto.php?foto=7618

[tolis]

More photos:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bestofrallylive/sets/72157627937999686/
http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/fotogalery.php?events=1241&fotograf=100&all=1

[dimviii]

@Andrey Excellent!!

[Fri]

shakedown video:
http://www.rallysport.hu/images/2011/video/062-rshu_catalunya_rally_shakedown.htm

[dimviii]

How much of a help can your team-mate Jari-Matti Latvala be?
“He can help me. Dani
Sordo can in a way, everybody who is fighting up there can play a big role in the title fight by taking points off Loeb.

http://www.wrc.com/news/qa-mikko-hirvonen/?fid=15591

[dimviii]

From this photo we can see that they have build at least 12 ds3s.Did anybody know how many they have build?Of course Novikov is impossible to have one of the new ones :D
http://www.worldrally.ru/detail_foto.php?foto=7584

[tolis]

Some photos of the ceremonial start by Ferm WRT:
http://yfrog.com/nwijziuj
http://yfrog.com/mesthywj
http://yfrog.com/oe8qjnxj

[dimviii]

shakedown video:
http://www.rallysport.hu/images/2011/video/062-rshu_catalunya_rally_shakedown.htm

can somebody put the url of the video,because i can t see it in the link.Thanks


ps NOT are you alive???????

[tolis]

can somebody put the url of the video,because i can t see it in the link.Thanks


ps NOT are you alive???????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qBFeqETcds

[dimviii]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qBFeqETcds

Thanks Tolis

[dimviii]

Nice photos
http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/fotogalery.php?events=1241&fotograf=35&all=1

[Doug Woods]

shakedown video:
http://www.rallysport.hu/images/2011/video/062-rshu_catalunya_rally_shakedown.htm

Excellent video! One of the best that we have seen all year.

[N.O.T]

LOL...for 3 days now i thought the forum was offline...

i had this link stored in my favourites....

http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/index.php?styleid=13

i googled motrsportforums to see what was going on and found the correct link...why the link i used all this time suddenly was transffering me to a 404 page ??

Did you miss me ????

[tolis]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhFmFL11UKA

[darkstar]

Did you miss me ????

yes, a bit ;)

[dimviii]

LOL...for 3 days now i thought the forum was offline...

i had this link stored in my favourites....

http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/index.php?styleid=13

i googled motrsportforums to see what was going on and found the correct link...why the link i used all this time suddenly was transffering me to a 404 page ??

Did you miss me ????

101% Fin sabotage :D

[Barreis]

LOL...for 3 days now i thought the forum was offline...

i had this link stored in my favourites....

http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/index.php?styleid=13

i googled motrsportforums to see what was going on and found the correct link...why the link i used all this time suddenly was transffering me to a 404 page ??

Did you miss me ????

I didn't miss you. :)

[tolis]

The itinerary in Greek times, for the Greeks!

Day 1

SS1 Pesells 1 (gravel) 25,74 09:43
SS2 Terra Alta 1 (gravel & asphalt) 35,94 10:51
SS3 Les Garrigues 1 (gravel & asphalt) 18,50 12:29
SS4 Pesells 2 (gravel) 25,74 17:42
SS5 Terra Alta 2 (gravel & asphalt) 35,94 18:50
SS6 Les Garrigues 2 (gravel & asphalt) 18,50 20:28

Day 2

SS7 El Priorat 1 (asphalt) 45,97 10:40
SS8 Riba-roja d΄Ebre 1 (asphalt) 12,27 12:08
SS9 Punta de les Torres 1 (asphalt) 13,53 12:33
SS10 El Priorat 2 (asphalt) 45,97 15:48
SS11 Riba-roja d΄Ebre 2 (asphalt) 12,27 17:16
SS12 Punta de les Torres 2 (asphalt) 13,53 17:41

Day 3

SS13 Santa Marina 1 (asphalt) 26,51 08:02
SS14 La Mussara 1 (asphalt) 20,48 09:22
SS15 Coll de la Teixeta 1 (asphalt) 4,32 10:12
SS16 Santa Marina 2 (asphalt) 26,51 12:39
SS17 La Mussara 2 (asphalt) 20,48 13:59
SS18 Coll de la Teixeta 2 (asphalt) POWER STAGE 4,32 15:11

[N.O.T]

so if you are in the UK subtract 2 hours and if you are in the civilised part of europe substract 1 hour.

If you are in Finland and Turkey the times are ok for you.

[tolis]

58 starters. No Campana, Turan, Bolland and Borja Garcia.
http://www.rallyracc.com/2011/online/tablon/documentos/Start_list_1.pdf

[6789]

Looks like they have gone for 3 minute gaps as well

[6789]

Ive got some photos of the Shakedown uploaded at our Facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/rallymedia !


Amazing photo of Petter!!

[wwbroe]

First stage should be live pretty soon, anybody else awake and ready to follow the battle for the championship?

[6789]

First stage should be live pretty soon, anybody else awake and ready to follow the battle for the championship?
Yep!

[Hartusvuori]

Stage is live - I'm awake.

[pete c]

me too!

[wwbroe]

Apparently they are running with three minute gaps, i guess they don't want the dust to spoil anybody's chances.

[wwbroe]

Dou you guys see any splits on wrc.com?

[Hartusvuori]

There are splits now.

See also the alternative splits from rally site: http://www.rallyracc.com/2011/ingles/online.html

Hirvonen already loosing...

[wwbroe]

Hirvonen allready slower by 3.7 sec compared to Loeb, despite Seb is openening the stage and sweeping.

[wwbroe]

Ogier is faster as Loeb on first split.

[wwbroe]

Ogier now slower on second split.

[wwbroe]

There are splits now.

See also the alternative splits from rally site: http://www.rallyracc.com/2011/ingles/online.html

Hirvonen already loosing...

Thanks for that link, it works a lot better as the one from wrc.com. I think this is the first rally where they do those splits, should be everywhere like that. :)

[rp]

Latvala fastest on the first split...

[pete c]

the splits on rallyracc are much better, thanks Hartusvori

[wwbroe]

Besttime sofar for JML on first split, hope he can keep that pace up.

[wwbroe]

Despite Loeb is cleaning, it looks like he set one hell off a time.

[wwbroe]

Hirvonen went off in one place, but he is in finish of the stage, not best of times tough, 15.4 sec down from Seb.

[rage82]

JML is now slower than Loeb and Peter is not going as fast as I expected

[wwbroe]

Ogier is even slower as Hirvonen, they are compaining about the dust, impossible to see anything.

[Hartusvuori]

I think this is the first rally where they do those splits, should be everywhere like that. :)

I think they had the same system last year also. Splits points should be different from wrc.com.

Dust issues from everyone running behind despite 3 minute gaps.

[wwbroe]

So, opening the stage may not be such a disadvantage on today's stages. If the dust keeps on hanging, looks like the rest is running in difficult conditions. If those conditions stay on this night, Loeb could easily take a lot of time from the rest.

[Brother John]

Loeb is not cleaning, he make the dust for all the other drivers!

[wwbroe]

That is exactly what makes him so strong, if he is sweeping, he is still in front, if he is not sweeping he is in front also.

[wwbroe]

Looks like Petter has stopped with puncture?

[Hartusvuori]

I'm afraid dust will play a role also in SWRC class... Hänninen starting behind Burkart, Tänak starting behind Hänninen.

Solberg already out... stopped. Shame.

[Hartusvuori]

Looks like Petter has stopped with puncture?

He has more damage than that, according to WRR.

[wwbroe]

Paddon retired before start of first stage, anybody knows more about this?

[wwbroe]

He has more damage than that, according to WRR.

Yes, it seems like he ripped a wheel off, so it is allready over for Petter.

[wwbroe]

I must say that splits from organisation is working really well, WRC.com could take an example from this.

[wwbroe]

Wilson, who is allready not the fastest one around when he can see the road, will now loose far more then a minute compared to Loeb.

[Micke_VOC]

I must say that splits from organisation is working really well, WRC.com could take an example from this.

I agree, terrible slow results from wrc.com today

[Barreis]

After last good rally wrc.com is dying.

[wwbroe]

Sordo is saying thet it is impossible to run in these conditions, he was running in the dust of Wilson.

[Hartusvuori]

"I'm behind Matthew. I don't tell Matthew is slow..."

Sordo quite diplomatic on the dust issue...

[Juha_Koo]

Maybe a time to quote Bosse...

"Okay, that's it. Hehe."

[wwbroe]

Meeke is not doing so bad on first two splits, hope he can keep up the pace, apparently he checked in a minute late. Maybe this can be a smart move

[pete c]

Novikov has booked in late too

[Brother John]

That is exactly what makes him so strong, if he is sweeping, he is still in front, if he is not sweeping he is in front also.

Make him so strong? Again a free gift for him I think.

Fortunately it is now a Citroen less to fight for Ford and Mini.
Again bad luck for petter or time to retire?

[rage82]

Villagra is fastest on split 3 :) , he's really going flat out this weekend

[wwbroe]

Look at Villagra, he is setting the pace at split 3 :eek: :eek:

[rage82]

But on the next he's losing much, maybe the 3-rd one was wrong comparing also the 1-st and 2-nd

[wwbroe]

On the other hand, i don't think this split is coorect, if you have a look at his previous splits it is almost impossible.

[noel157]

Meeke at least got a place or two with booking in late. Smart move.

[wwbroe]

But on the next he's losing much, maybe the 3-rd one was wrong comparing also the 1-st and 2-nd

I think we need to add one minute to that split.

[rage82]

Yes maybe it was 9 not 8

[bretddog]

Unfortunately the rallyracc.com split times can not be trusted. I don't know what technology they use, GPS based? Anyway, last year they also made heaps of strange times.

[noel157]

Middle of a stage and they lose contact with Bex and Colin Clark. Results are slow. Has to get better.

[JHvP]

Paddon had electronic issue

[wwbroe]

Unfortunately the rallyracc.com split times can not be trusted. I don't know what technology they use, GPS based? Anyway, last year they also made heaps of strange times.

I think they can be trusted most of the time, i only see one mistake of probably one minute at third split of Villagra. They certainly are more to be trusted then the ones from WRC.com, because they don't work at all.

[wwbroe]

What happened with Block, no more splits for him?

[Juha_Koo]

Middle of a stage and they lose contact with Bex and Colin Clark. Results are slow. Has to get better.

Colin left the stage-end already after Sordo, so nothing to hear from him.

[Barreis]

Unfortunately the rallyracc.com split times can not be trusted. I don't know what technology they use, GPS based? Anyway, last year they also made heaps of strange times.

It's the same as wrc.com

[wwbroe]

Second stage is live now, let's see if there is the same amount of dust on this one, if i am not mistaken i think there is some tarmac on this one, but i don't know how much of percentage it is.

[rage82]

The 2-nd stage is live and it's the longest for today. The stage is mixed gravel and tarmac let's see what's happen with the dust issue.

[Mirek]

Only two minutes gap in SWRC and Juho starting behind Burkart...

[rage82]

Block stoped in the stage, not sure but maybe steering problem

[wwbroe]

Only two minutes gap in SWRC and Juho starting behind Burkart...

He can allways follow Meeke's example. :D

[Micke_VOC]

Now the Wrc-splits working better...

[wwbroe]

Yes, they seem to be working better, and they have more splits, but i am still following on both sites :)

[wwbroe]

Hirvonen is 2.1 sec slower now then Loeb.

[wwbroe]

Ogier is fastest man underway for the moment.

[wildsir]

Are all drivers taking 10s penalty now?

[pete c]

Latvala now quickest

[wwbroe]

Are all drivers taking 10s penalty now?

No, why should they, it is only Meeke and Novikov that take penalty, the reason is they pointed in one minute late

[wwbroe]

Ogier now 4 sec faster as Seb1, Mikko still loosing time tough.

[Mintexmemory]

:o Burkart faster than Iceman on the 1st stage! Dust or not this is nature's way of telling you things are not getting better ;)

[wwbroe]

Hanninen sixth overall after first stage, despite running in the dust of Burkart.

[wildsir]

No, why should they, it is only Meeke and Novikov that take penalty, the reason is they pointed in one minute lateYes, but for ss2? 10s is nothing if you've broke a wheel cause u couldnt see the road.

[hari]

Problems for Tänak? Missing in splits

[rage82]

Tanak is missing on the final results, maybe some problems?

[wwbroe]

What happened with Ott Tanak on first stage, no more splits for him?

[Brother John]

Nice to see that Latvala has authorization from Wilson to fight against Loeb here in Spain.

[Barreis]

What authorisation?! It's Hirvonen who can not do anything by himself.

[wwbroe]

Mikko is loosing massive time again towards the end of this stage.

[Mirek]

Seems like the SWRC title battle is over...

[wwbroe]

Mikko is loosing too much time, nearly twenty seconds again lost compared to Seb.

[wwbroe]

Ogier fastest trough, 21.1 faster then Hirvonen.

[Brother John]

What authorisation?! It's Hirvonen who can not do anything by himself.

Read this on wrc.com

http://www.wrc.com/news/wilson-latvala-can-help-hirvonens-title-bid/?fid=15592

[Mintexmemory]

Seems like the SWRC title battle is over...
Except we've seen this year that Super Rally can still get a top 4 place and that unpressured mistakes can happen. However, I agree Juho should now walk it.

[wwbroe]

Read this on wrc.com

http://www.wrc.com/news/wilson-latvala-can-help-hirvonens-title-bid/?fid=15592

That is exactly what JML is been doing for most of the season, helping poor Mikko

[wwbroe]

Seems like JML hit something on this stage, no more rear bumper but apparently not too much damage.

[Mirek]

Except we've seen this year that Super Rally can still get a top 4 place and that unpressured mistakes can happen. However, I agree Juho should now walk it.

Yes, I know but now all trumps are in Juho's hands (but before Germany it looked like that also).

[Juha_Koo]

Hirvonen giving lots of fight-talking before the rally but now after two stages +35,3. May I ask - what the hell?

Dust not a problem for JML or Ogier...

[wwbroe]

In WRR they now are aware that Tanak stopped in first stage, what a "massive" news for them. :D

[Hartusvuori]

Tänak stopped in the stage. Wheel off.

Shame that it ended before it started.

Any Autosport (print) readers here? I think it has something on Tänak driving in Wales with Fiesta WRC + Fiesta WRC for whole season 2012.

[bluuford]

Looks like Petter and Tänak took the wheel off on the same rock.

[pete c]

Good to see rally radio keeping up with the fight between Hanninen and Tanak...just realized Tanak stopped in stage 1...

[wwbroe]

Raikonen is really a disgrace for the sport, it's much better he goes back to "pussy" racing.

[pete c]

Sordo seems to be trying hard on this one

[wwbroe]

Matthew broke the rear gear, it is difficult to understand that you can brake something running at that pace.

[wildsir]

Not really... Directly proportional to ability.

[wwbroe]

Problems for Ketomaki in first stage also?

[N.O.T]

Loeb is really pushing...cleaning the road as well....but it seems the handicap from the dust is bigger for the guys running behind.

Very nice times by meeke as well....

[wwbroe]

Loeb is really pushing...cleaning the road as well....but it seems the handicap from the dust is bigger for the guys running behind.

Very nice times by meeke as well....

Meeke not doing as great on this one, looking at the splits.

[MJW]

Tänak stopped in the stage. Wheel off.

Shame that it ended before it started.

Any Autosport (print) readers here? I think it has something on Tänak driving in Wales with Fiesta WRC + Fiesta WRC for whole season 2012. Yes for GB, only hints of one of Malcolm's long term deals in teh future, but I dont think its a full WRC car next year from Ford, more likely a S2000 or RRC version.

[wwbroe]

After two stages "Icecube" is only 2,5 minutes off the pace, even Matthew is faster with only 2min13 back. :D

[noel157]

Meeke not doing as great on this one, looking at the splits.

Wonder if he's being held up by Icecube?

[N.O.T]

I really hope they do not slow Latvala down once more at this rally as well....

to do it 1-2 times its ok (not right but i guess acceptable) especially if your No1 driver hits trouble, but to slow him down because he is faster reminds me of that joke Biasion.

[wwbroe]

Wonder if he's being held up by Icecube?

Could be a reasonable explanation, tough he is still running on a four minute interval i suppose?

[N.O.T]

Raikonen really shows he is born to be a rally driver

LOL

[wwbroe]

Seems like Villagra has a serious problem as well?

[Barreis]

Sordo loser again.