Cancer Cure imminent?

[Valve Bounce]

This appeared in yesterday's Today morning show on Channel 9 in Australia. A cancer patient was given two days to live. His melanoma had caused cancer to spread through his system. He was then treated with a drug which is undergoing trials at the Austin Hospital, and the treatment apparently saved him. He improved dramatically and was ble to sit up the next day. The doctor involved stressed emphatically that this is part of a clinical trial and it is ongoing. From memory, they have developed something that attacks the part of a molecule that drives the spread of the cancer cells.

I have searched Channel nine's news, Today show, and have been unable to find anything on their website.

All I have been able to come up with is this information from the Austin Hospital but it is from November 2009. http://www.austin.org.au/PodcastItem.aspx?ID=42

If any Aussi watched this program yesterday (Sunday) and can shedd some light on this, please let us know.

[Malbec]

This appeared in yesterday's Today morning show on Channel 9 in Australia. A cancer patient was given two days to live. His melanoma had caused cancer to spread through his system. He was then treated with a drug which is undergoing trials at the Austin Hospital, and the treatment apparently saved him. He improved dramatically and was ble to sit up the next day. The doctor involved stressed emphatically that this is part of a clinical trial and it is ongoing. From memory, they have developed something that attacks the part of a molecule that drives the spread of the cancer cells.

I have searched Channel nine's news, Today show, and have been unable to find anything on their website.

All I have been able to come up with is this information from the Austin Hospital but it is from November 2009. http://www.austin.org.au/PodcastItem.aspx?ID=42

If any Aussi watched this program yesterday (Sunday) and can shedd some light on this, please let us know.

You might be referring to Oncovex which has had good results with metastatic melanoma but its all relative and its only been through small scale studies. It has had a good effect on less than a quarter of patients with this disease although thats a lot better than anything else out there for metastatic melanoma.

There will be no cure for cancer unfortunately. We as a species will have to learn to live with the disease.

[Valve Bounce]

You might be referring to Oncovex which has had good results with metastatic melanoma but its all relative and its only been through small scale studies. It has had a good effect on less than a quarter of patients with this disease although thats a lot better than anything else out there for metastatic melanoma.

There will be no cure for cancer unfortunately. We as a species will have to learn to live with the disease.

That name doesn't ring a bell. I will keep searching for this, because one of my neighbors is in a very poor state.

[Garry Walker]

There will be no cure for cancer unfortunately.

Could you elaborate on that?

[Malbec]

Could you elaborate on that?

There are three main ways we treat cancer, surgery, chemotherapy and radiotherapy. Most often patients are treated by a combination of the above.

Surgical techniques have developed a lot but its pretty refined now and there aren't going to be any new gamechanging advances.

Radiotherapy is getting more and more precise, limiting the side effects and becoming slightly more effective but again there aren't any significant advances in the pipeline. Many tumours are also not affected by radiation.

This leaves chemotherapy. There are lots of new agents in development but the vast majority offer only a small improvement on what we have now. Drug companies are getting pretty fed up spending billions developing new chemotherapy agents which health agencies around the world (both public and private) simply can't justify purchasing on cost effectiveness grounds. Some companies have been reduced to offering a money-back guarantee on new drugs if they don't do as advertised.

Immunomodulation is a potential area of development, Oncovex I referred to works on this basis. The problem is we don't understand the immune system properly and big mistakes have been made (like the Northwick Park drug trial disaster a few years back) trying to manipulate it.

Most drug companies have shifted attention away from developing new drugs and have started to help tailor chemotherapy treatments to individual patients. They will help test the tumour for certain receptors and you will receive the drugs most likely to work on your particular tumour with its particular receptor profile with the other drugs held in reserve.

People think a cure for cancer will be found like a cure for an infection or a fractured bone. That simply isn't going to happen and I think its better if we start realising this and start learning to make the most of life with cancer though that'll require a massive change in our cultural beliefs.

[Bezza]

I agree with Dylan H, you will never cure cancer.

It is not really a "disease" just a spreading of dead cells, and therefore no bacteria or virus is present to kill off. There is nothing to attack!

[ArrowsFA1]

...I think its better if we start realising this and start learning to make the most of life...
Apologies for extracting just this from your post but I think it's the key.

If it's not cancer then it's other diseases which we try to eradicate. I'm not saying we should stop looking for cures but we should accept death as inevitable, not something that can be "cured".

[BleAivano]

i've read about other new "Promising" methods which so far only have been tested on mice.

One of the methods was a method that uses iron particles in nano size. These particles would be injected into the tumour itself or in the patients blood.
As we all know iron is magnetic so when injected the patient will be exposed to small scale magnetism which will make the iron particles to warm up more then enough to kill the tumour cells
but still far from warm enough to do damage to the surrounding body parts. There are still many limitations to this method since the treaters need to be have unrestricted access to the tumour to be able
to use a magnet on the iron particles. This is because a stronger magnet would mean that the other parts of the body then the tumour would be damaged.

i have found two links none of these links are where i read about it the first time so i havent read the so thoroughly.
http://globalwarming-arclein.blogspot.com/2010/12/cancer-cure-with-nano-iron-oxide.html
http://www.tahan.com/charlie/nanosociety/course201/nanos/NH.pdf

another method is to use various types of viruses(!) against cancer:
http://www.nytimes.com/1998/12/22/science/use-of-altered-virus-to-fight-cancer-looks-promising.html
http://www.world-science.net/othernews/070707_cancer-virus.htm
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/07/070707083314.htm

[Zeakiwi]

These are three links on recent cancer treatment articles in the local MM.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10711846 (melanoma)
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10711846 (PR-509)
http://tvnz.co.nz/sunday-news/sunday-13-march-birthmarks-and-dreams-4051018 (Dr Swee Tan)

[BleAivano]

@Bessa cancer is not a spreading of dead cells, in that case cancers tumours would not have any blood vessels connecting to it and it would not be able to grow.
So cancer is on contrary to your statement a highly living organism.

Personally i think stemcells have a thing or two to do with cancer.

[ioan]

I agree with Dylan H, you will never cure cancer.

It is not really a "disease" just a spreading of dead cells, and therefore no bacteria or virus is present to kill off. There is nothing to attack!

Never say never and never give up hope.
That 'spreading of dead cells' (which in fact is wrong) as you name it has a source/reason and it can be prevented or stopped.

[rah]

Plenty of new treatments in the pipeline. The latest one I heard about involved injecting nano diamond particles treated with cancer drugs into the tumor. There is also a lot of research into the way viruses interact with cancer cells, looking for possible treatments and causes. I have seen first hand what melanoma can do to a man, and it is not pretty.

[Valve Bounce]

Maybe some here might like to read the OP a little more closely.

[555-04Q2]

One day there will be a cure. Mankind and technology is progressing at a phenomenal rate. It may take a few more decades or centuries, but one day we will find a cure. People are already living twice as long as they did at the turn of the century. One day someone will make it past 200 years old thanks to modern technology.

[Dave B]

Playing devil's advocate for a moment, do we really want to cure cancer? The planet is overpopulated as it is, how would society cope with millions more people living into old age? And if we aren't dying of cancer we'll die of something else - should we look into curing that too? I'm not saying any of that is right or wrong, merely that it's a complicated question.

[Valve Bounce]

Playing devil's advocate for a moment, do we really want to cure cancer? The planet is overpopulated as it is, how would society cope with millions more people living into old age? And if we aren't dying of cancer we'll die of something else - should we look into curing that too? I'm not saying any of that is right or wrong, merely that it's a complicated question.

I fully agree: lets start by burning hospitals and lynching doctors. :eek:

[555-04Q2]

Playing devil's advocate for a moment, do we really want to cure cancer? The planet is overpopulated as it is, how would society cope with millions more people living into old age? And if we aren't dying of cancer we'll die of something else - should we look into curing that too? I'm not saying any of that is right or wrong, merely that it's a complicated question.

Quite simple. Improve healthcare and let people live longer. Restrict couples to no more than 2 kids and the population wont grow out of control.

Problem is some idiots have 10 or 20 kids and the developing world just pomp themselves into overpopulatation and poverty.

[driveace]

I know a guy,who is very well qualified in the Hospital"Business".Over 20 years ago he invested in some shares in an american company that was trying to develop a cure for cancer,he believed if he was one of the first IN,then he would make millions when a cure was found by this company.he is still running around in a Smart car.BUT i do believe there will be a cure,someday!

Cancer is a curable disease if the treatments starts in the early stage when something goes over the top its a bit hard to control it.
But through proper medication this diseases can be treated.

[D-Type]

Cancer isn't really a disease, ie it doesn't have a single cause or trigger, it doesn't have a single effect, it has several. In fact there are many different cancers. Once you accept that, it becomes apparent that there may wll be drugs that will 'cure' a particular form of cancer but that's it - the other 99 or however many it is are still out there. What the OP probably saw on TV was that a particular drug had been 100% successful against a particular form of cancer in one patient.

[Spafranco]

@Bessa cancer is not a spreading of dead cells, in that case cancers tumours would not have any blood vessels connecting to it and it would not be able to grow.
So cancer is on contrary to your statement a highly living organism.

Personally i think stemcells have a thing or two to do with cancer.

You are correct. Cancer cells unlike healthy cells do not die. The reason is known the how to defeat it is unknown. Cutting off blood supply was one

method that seemed promising. One can see the challenge facing the oncology specialists. How do you kill something that won't die.

There is an oncologist in Italy who states who states that sodium bicarbonate is a cure for all cancers. He lost his license to practice. Nothing unusual

in that as what would the drug companies do if they did not There is no reason to believe that this is a cure all. However, since cancer cells are acidic

and sodium bicarbonate is alkaline the theory is that the alkaline targets the acidic cancer cells and thence cures them. There is an ongoing study at

the University of Arizona.

The incidence of being diagnosed as having cancer amongst the Hopi tribe is 1 in 1,000 compared to 1 in 4 in the rest of the US. Why is this. Extremely low Ph levels and high in alkaline intake.

[Rollo]

Playing devil's advocate for a moment, do we really want to cure cancer? The planet is overpopulated as it is, how would society cope with millions more people living into old age? And if we aren't dying of cancer we'll die of something else - should we look into curing that too? I'm not saying any of that is right or wrong, merely that it's a complicated question.

Cancer a fact of long life › Dr Karl's Great Moments In Science (ABC Science) (http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2012/08/07/3559964.htm)
So, the increase in cancer rate is overwhelmingly due to the fact that we live longer. These extra years of life allow extra time for the cancer not only to start, but to grow and eventually kill us. As cancer scientist Robert A. Weinbery said: "If we lived long enough, sooner or later we all would get cancer."

Practically all cancers are the result of DNA mutations which increase or cause the production of junk cells. Eventually people's DNA would start to break down due to old age, or the deterioration of telomeres.

If we cure "cancer", then we'll live longer and start dying of other "cancers". Unless someone finds a way of replacing DNA in the human body, I don't think that it's even possible.

Arnold Bros. Est 1905 - "Everything Must Go"

[Roamy]

Playing devil's advocate for a moment, do we really want to cure cancer? The planet is overpopulated as it is, how would society cope with millions more people living into old age? And if we aren't dying of cancer we'll die of something else - should we look into curing that too? I'm not saying any of that is right or wrong, merely that it's a complicated question.

right on Dave - Just give them a fcking crack pipe and let them go out in style!1 BTW a few escorts would not be bad either :)

[Rollo]

BTW a few escorts would not be bad either :)

Cossie or RS2000? :D

[webberf1]

Didn't see any coverage, but I'll look into it more seriously when it's reported on a more reputable news source than channel 7 or 9.

Thanks for this information ....................