Rally Finland 2011

[René]

For those who are behind Loeb now! The situation is not lost, only despaired. Latvala want to score some point and he give up. Ogier is flat out near the Ogier’s explosion syndrome..... ;)

[Tom206wrc]

By the way why Solberg P is so "slow" on this event :confused:
Don't talk about detuned DS3 please, I don't believe that :rolleyes:

[N.O.T]

with latvala so close behind ogier team orders are out of the question also....the big afternoon stage is going to decide everything i guess, after that both teams they will prder their drivers to bring the cars home if nothing spectacular happens....

[N.O.T]

By the way why Solberg P is so "slow" on this event :confused:
Don't talk about detuned DS3 please, I don't believe that :rolleyes:

he never had winning pace here....

[wwbroe]

JML sound really desperate at stop-finish, he says he doesn't know what to do to keep up with Citroens

[N.O.T]

2 seconds lost for latvala in a 4 km stage....game over ??

[N.O.T]

JML sound really desperate at stop-finish, he says he doesn't know what to do to keep up with Citroens

drive like Hirvonen....

[René]

By the way why Solberg P is so "slow" on this event :confused:
Don't talk about detuned DS3 please, I don't believe that :rolleyes:

Petter understood that he cannot win any rally and seems frustrated by it. He lost his motivation... :(

[Miika]

Both Latvala and Petter clueless about why they can´t go any faster. Judging by the live stages shot from helicopter Latvala´s car looks to be a bit more sideways all the time, and if there is some difference powerwise then that´s about it then. Mikko is driving well but then again he doesn´t have the pressure, just enjoying the fast roads.

[Tom206wrc]

2 seconds lost for latvala in a 4 km stage....game over ??

It's too early !!! I want Citroën to win with one-two but rally is still long anything can still happen, I'll start thinking about possible victory after SS17 if Loeb and Ogier manages to increase gap again :mark:

[wwbroe]

Hirvonen fastest again, he is getting really close to Ostberg and Solberg now.

[Tom206wrc]

Good time by Sordo again ;) but cannot improve his current position :mark:

[MikeD]

Good time by Sordo again ;) but cannot improve his current position :mark:

Yes, Sordo has been better than expected in the first two rallies with MINI, and it looks like it will be 2-0 over Meeke after this one. I have always stated that Meeke is way overrated and I predict that Sordo will beat him on the remaining 4 MINI events aswell.

[logic]

Yes, Sordo has been better than expected in the first two rallies with MINI, and it looks like it will be 2-0 over Meeke after this one. I have always stated that Meeke is way overrated and I predict that Sordo will beat him on the remaining 4 MINI events aswell.

+1

[Sladden]

Both Latvala and Petter clueless about why they can´t go any faster. Judging by the live stages shot from helicopter Latvala´s car looks to be a bit more sideways all the time, and if there is some difference powerwise then that´s about it then. Mikko is driving well but then again he doesn´t have the pressure, just enjoying the fast roads.
Petter was 1s/km slower on SS16...maybe a combination of setups and mental stress. He can be much quicker than this.

[tfp]

Dissapointing for ford, wasn't exactly the result I hoped for :down:
If Loeb can win this, he's practically guaranteed 100 points(not including the powerstages) from the 6 rallies that are left including this one...It seems the championship is over already! :o

[darkstar]

hirvonen is really fast, i think he´ll become 4th!

[wwbroe]

Now we will have to wait to see if there will be any team-orders. Also it remains to be seen if, in the case Hirvonen catch-up with Solberg, they will ask JML to let him pass to third to take maximum possible amount of points for championship.

[Francis44]

Yes, Sordo has been better than expected in the first two rallies with MINI, and it looks like it will be 2-0 over Meeke after this one. I have always stated that Meeke is way overrated and I predict that Sordo will beat him on the remaining 4 MINI events aswell.

That's a lit bit unfair for Meeke. Sordo was been doing the championship for last four years with a top car, he knows the rally's and he knows turbo cars. As much as I like Sordo I think Meeke is going to be faster next year.

[N.O.T]

Indeed thats an unfair prediction...in sardinia where meeke had experience of the event as well he was faster until the gas stuck and caused him an off...i think next year the results are going to be safer for both.

[René]

If Loeb wins this Rally, he will be the first non-Nordic driver to win Finland twice. And perhaps also the first non-Nordic double in the honours list of this Rally. But the way is still long.....Quesnel must be at the edge of depression, we are going to see if he is a real Team Manager or an managed Manager??? Cry baby cry !!!! :) :) :)

[Miika]

Ogier said before the service that there won´t be any team-orders, we´ll see. Latvala conforming that the Ford is tail-happy everywhere and he has tried to fix it, without any luck.

[GigiGalliNo1]

Is the rally finishing on Saturday?!

[Hartusvuori]

Anything on Novikov? We're driving from Isojärvi stage and he was on the roadside bonnet up. Didn't get a better look though.

[N.O.T]

NOVIKOV E. / GIRAUDET D. "We have problem with the car again. Oil pressure or turbo, don't know."

[logic]

Anything on Novikov? We're driving from Isojärvi stage and he was on the roadside bonnet up. Didn't get a better look though.

He retired with oil pressure problems

[Hartusvuori]

Thank you all!

[GigiGalliNo1]

Did he say "With help of Potato's"?? hahahaha Silly Russian guy

[uranium]

That's a lit bit unfair for Meeke. Sordo was been doing the championship for last four years with a top car, he knows the rally's and he knows turbo cars. As much as I like Sordo I think Meeke is going to be faster next year.

Two latest stages Hanninen is faster then Meeke. Let me guess, is the Fabia S2000 faster then WRC Mini or ...?

[Miika]

Footage of today´s stages 12-16:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuFl50oUmnE

[Barreis]

Thanks Miika, you're great.

[Francis44]

Two latest stages Hanninen is faster then Meeke. Let me guess, is the Fabia S2000 faster then WRC Mini or ...?

Sorry I see Hanninen was fastest in the last 5KM stage but in the previous one Meeke was faster so try again.

http://blog.wtfconcept.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/trololol.gif

[cali]

Sorry I see Hanninen was fastest in the last 5KM stage but in the previous one Meeke was faster so try again.

Still this brings up a questions:

- Are those new WRCars slower on high speed events?
- Or maybe Hänninen, Tänak are very fast drivers?
- Mini too slow?
- Meeke/Sordo too slow drivers?
-Or maybe a mix of everything above?

:)

[Fly_Half]

Or maybe Meeke and Sordo are driving for a finish to gain valuable data for next season? Don't forget this is Hanninen's home event also.

[Toughcrx]

Can anyone tell me if there is a link to a website etc that will be streaming the power stage from rally finland??

[Tomi]

I have always stated that Meeke is way overrated
Agree, but that was expected, all Brittish drivers has been, if you look closer at they real achievments, 2 x 1 time champions.

[cali]

Or maybe Meeke and Sordo are driving for a finish to gain valuable data for next season? Don't forget this is Hanninen's home event also.

OK, I just did not mention other drivers like Wilson, Kimi, Henning and others who have constantly taken beating from Hänninen-Tänak duo. S2000 cars should be way slower

[6789]

Check myp2p.eu for streams :)

[wwbroe]

Leustu stage is live for second pass, let's see what will happen and if we will see some major changes.

[Francis44]

Ogier slowly making time up, this is gonna be close.

[wwbroe]

Puncture for Ogier???

[Luis Pacheco]

Puncture for Ogier!

[cali]

Puncture for Ogier

[Francis44]

****** Hell puncture for Ogier.

[wwbroe]

Front left puncture for Seb 2 loosing 6,9 sec

[Tom206wrc]

Ogier 6" slower than Loeb again... :mark:

[focus206]

I think Latvala is out of the game... now only Ogier can put pressure on Loeb, but if Loeb doesn't mistake anything, he is going to win.
Oh right, congratulations to Ford/M-Sport, for not winning neither in their "home soil"... probably this year the only thing they won is the Swedish Rally, 1 round out of 13, great work!

EDIT: oh, puncture for Ogier...

[wwbroe]

Meeke stopped in the stage, damn

[cali]

Meeke is changing tyre

[cali]

I like Ostberg's speed and attitude. Mads has done really well

[Nornbugger]

Agree, but that was expected, all Brittish drivers has been, if you look closer at they real achievments, 2 x 1 time champions.

British drivers have done well in comparison to the chances they have been given, only 2 in recent history got a chance with proper teams, both were champions and if Burns wasnt ill in '03 he could have won it too

Meeke is well rated by the people that count, and they dont appear to waste their days posting bs on here ;-)

[Tom206wrc]

Nevertheless I'm still confident in a Citroën 1-2, as Ogier was constantly faster than Latvala this morning :)

[Francis44]

Im afraid Ogier will still go for Loeb as he's a mad man.

[Tom206wrc]

Disastrous pace from Räikkönen compared to Wilslow on that SS17 !!! :mad:

[focus206]

Disastrous pace from Räikkönen compared to Wilslow on that SS17 !!! :mad:

Not pace, he had some trouble before the 2nd split... maybe a spin?

[Tom206wrc]

"Promising driver"(seen like this by portuguese press and rally fans)Armindo Araujo, slower than a certain...Khalid Al Kassimi in SS17 :s

[Francis44]

"Promising driver"(seen like this by portuguese press and rally fans)Armindo Araujo, slower than a certain...Khalid Al Kassimi in SS17 :s

Yeah it's quite embarrassing :( .

Both Daniel and Armindo Mini's with problems, water temperature for both and turbo for Armindo aswell.

[Tom206wrc]

Yeah it's quite embarrassing :( .

Both Daniel and Armindo Mini's with problems, water temperature for both and turbo for Armindo aswell.


OK sick car then... :(
Not very good reliability from Prodrive :mark:
Far better than their endurance AMR ONE though :p :

[wwbroe]

Ogier is 1.1 sec slower at opening split as Loeb.

[Tom206wrc]

Let's go for SS18 ;)
Loeb 1"1 faster than Ogier on split 1...

[Francis44]

Ogier will probably loose 2nd place in this stage.

[wwbroe]

Has Mikkelsen retired? That is what they are saying on rallyradio. If that is true it is not a very good debut rally for VW Motorsport.

[René]

Latvala faster than Ogier split 2

[wwbroe]

Look at JML time, he is going after Loeb?

[Francis44]

Is anyone seeing the possibility of Latvala going for the win :D .

[Miika]

Game on for win? Kamikaze-style for the remaining stages and maybe it is.

[Hartusvuori]

Sordo's engine sounded broken. We're at midstage Surkee. JML was on fire (metaphorically:-)!

EDIT: Meeke went past very slow.

[Luis Pacheco]

Yeah it's quite embarrassing :( .

Both Daniel and Armindo Mini's with problems, water temperature for both and turbo for Armindo aswell.

The press and the fans will grab these "problems" to justify another turistic tour by "Ármundo".

[Francis44]

The press and the fans will grab these "problems" to justify another turistic tour by "Ármundo".

Sad but true.

[wwbroe]

Hirvonen now up to fifth and charging after Petter

[wwbroe]

Real bad time for Sordo, he is for sure having some problems. Anybody has an idea what is the problem?

[6789]

Come on JML!!!

[wwbroe]

Both factory Mini's seem to be in problems now, Meeke has overheating problem.

[N.O.T]

I think the power stage is going to be epic :D :D :D

[Tom206wrc]

What problem for Meeke again(SS18) :confused:

[Francis44]

Both factory Mini's seem to be in problems now, Meeke has overheating problem.

Almost all Mini's are having overheating problems, including Daniel and Armindo cars.

[N.O.T]

On both leustu and Urria which where the same as last year the new wrc are slower by 5.5 sec...and this year they go flat out last year Latvala was comfortably ahead....of course this year they were dump but on the second run through them the new wrcs are slower by almost 10 seconds from last year....

[Miika]

I think the power stage is going to be epic :D :D :D

The Laajavuori stage is a really risky place to start fighting for tenths of seconds, we´ll see if it comes down to that eventually.

[N.O.T]

next stage is on....

[Tom206wrc]

SS19 running ;)

[Miika]

Loeb vs. Latvala battle in the SS18 Surkee 2 from helicopter view:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3KlOQGCCF4

..and Kimi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj8wLLlmGnU

[rage82]

Loeb vs. Latvala battle in the SS18 Surkee 2 from helicopter view:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3KlOQGCCF4

..and Kimi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj8wLLlmGnU
You are damn fast :) ! No splits for me. Anybody else with the same problem?

[BleAivano]

You are damn fast :) ! No splits for me. Anybody else with the same problem?

works for me, JML 0,5 faster then Loeb at finish.

[wwbroe]

Splis work for me, but they are really slow i must say.

[Miika]

..and now Ogier responding to Latvala, wicked driving all around and still Citroen 1-2 a possibility.

[wwbroe]

Petter is trying to fight back, making second best time.

[Francis44]

Ogier fastest till now, Latvala faster than Loeb but just.

[N.O.T]

Loeb vs. Latvala battle in the SS18 Surkee 2 from helicopter view:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3KlOQGCCF4

..and Kimi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj8wLLlmGnU


My god...is that Paasonen next to the sportcaster ????

[Miika]

Grande attack from Mikko, no chance for Petter.

....

Yes it is Paasonen.

[Tom206wrc]

Finally Ogier catch a bit of time on Latvala :)

[jonkka]

My god...is that Paasonen next to the sportcaster ????

Sounds like him, yesh...

[N.O.T]

yes very nice driving by mikko the whole for 2.9 days...he would win easily here without the mistake.

Now Loeb can breathe a little...but the battle between Ogier and Latvala is crazy...lets see if we are going to get a repeat of Jordan.

[N.O.T]

It is sad to see Paasonen in such state :( :( he looks like 60 years old.

[Luis Pacheco]

The most spectacular driver ever seen on Azores Rallye!!

Always in my memory is drive with the Impreza WRC of Cilti Sport in 2002. Great moments!!!

[wwbroe]

Both factory Mini's are loosing a lot of time on stages now. Dropping also back in overall classification.

[AndyRAC]

Both factory Mini's are loosing a lot of time on stages now. Dropping also back in overall classification.

Hmm, new cars will suffer from reliability problems - probably to be expected. However, they haven't been setting blindingly quick times....I hope there's more speed and reliability to come.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

9 Stage wins by Mikko now ... awesome :)

[logic]

Hmm, new cars will suffer from reliability problems - probably to be expected. However, they haven't been setting blindingly quick times....I hope there's more speed and reliability to come.
I doubt they were aiming for blindingly quick times.

[Francis44]

Well I remeber hearing a Prodrive engineer saying it was easy to build a fast car, or a reliable car. According to him the hard part was finding a balance between both. Right now I think they are not suceeding in any of those.

[Francis44]

I see the Rally Radio is doing a remix of the songs played :p :.

[BleAivano]

someone, Ogier? got a puncture?

[jonkka]

Well I remeber hearing a Prodrive engineer saying it was easy to build a fast car, or a reliable car. According to him the hard part was finding a balance between both. Right now I think they are not suceeding in any of those.

Remember how Peugeot 206 was when it debuted? It shook parts all over the countryside but was blindingly fast. Then it got reliable but stayed fast.

[N.O.T]

Remember how Peugeot 206 was when it debuted? It shook parts all over the countryside but was blindingly fast. Then it got reliable but stayed fast.

yes but PSA spent a loads of money...BWM doesn't look that willing....

[wwbroe]

someone, Ogier? got a puncture?

Yes he got a puncture on first stage of second loop, but only loosing 7 sec. But on the other hand he doesn't have a spare now, so he has to be careful.

[N.O.T]

1 minute until the last big stage of the day if Loeb manages to keep a 10 second difference he can feel safe.

[MikeD]

SS20 is live ... come on Loeb, come on Ogier ... make it a one-two!

[N.O.T]

1-3 is more realistic but still great result.

[wwbroe]

Damn, i can't see any splits, do you guys have it working?

[N.O.T]

not working at the moment...

[wwbroe]

They never seem to work when you need them.....

[wwbroe]

Loeb in finish

[wrc1600]

working ok now

[Francis44]

Splits Working now.

[N.O.T]

1 second slower than this morning....lets see...

[BleAivano]

Yes he got a puncture on first stage of second loop, but only loosing 7 sec. But on the other hand he doesn't have a spare now, so he has to be careful.

ok i got a bit confused as the wrc radio reported that ogier got a puncture but there were no stages running.

[N.O.T]

The win is almost secured now for Loeb !!!!!

Ogier just wants to finish the rally....

[FLO]

Latvala recovered two seconds from Loeb, Hirvonen is likely to win this stage

[wwbroe]

Mikko moves to fourth overall with another besttime, leaving Petter to fifth.

[N.O.T]

the times hirvonen is posting are insane....

[BleAivano]

The win is almost secured now for Loeb !!!!!

Ogier just wants to finish the rally....

got any times to share? wrc.com is just as fast as if someone would have poured very old syrup in the wires.

[N.O.T]

Výsledky Rallye: Výsledky on-line (http://www.vysledky-rally.cz/vysledky/?filtr=&id=8&rz=158&x=22&y=9)

[wwbroe]

Look at the Czech sites (vysledky), they are always better as WRC.com :D

[BleAivano]

Výsledky Rallye: Výsledky on-line (http://www.vysledky-rally.cz/vysledky/?filtr=&id=8&rz=158&x=22&y=9)

ok thanks N.O.T.

[N.O.T]

Next stage is live....

[wwbroe]

Sordo loosing another 2,5 minutes, really pitty for him after doing quite a good rally.

[N.O.T]

Sordo big problems....

[Tom206wrc]

GAME OVER for Mini Prodrive :s

[FLO]

without making any mistake can not miss Loeb's victory, a shame for Hirvonen

[FLO]

where i can see power stage?

[N.O.T]

Positions are locked i think...only the power stage remains.

[dinartegouveia]

x2 Where can we see live stream of PS. Please :)

[Luis Pacheco]

Look at the Czech sites (vysledky), they are always better as WRC.com :D

Not always...

EWRC.Cz puts Armindo Araujo as the eighth fastest in stage 12. :D

[N.O.T]

Will hirvonen have a dissadvantage at the power stage since he didn't drive it at full speed thus he doesn't have any full speed notes ???

[MJW]

any streaming websites for power stage?

[Tom206wrc]

Ogier can still catch Latvala on the two last stages ;)

[N.O.T]

if you have veetle here...

MyP2P.eu :: Racing Events - FIA World Rally Championship (http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=125375&part=sports)

i guess more links are going to be available when the times closes by....i hope so at least.

[N.O.T]

Ogier can still catch Latvala on the two last stages ;)

only 1 stage remains....

[BleAivano]

if you have veetle here...

MyP2P.eu :: Racing Events - FIA World Rally Championship (http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=125375&part=sports)

i guess more links are going to be available when the times closes by....i hope so at least.

the veetle stream has been disabled due to copyright claims.

[Luis Pacheco]

any streaming websites for power stage?

FirstRow Watch Live F1 Race Online | Moto GP online Stream | Formula 1 live streaming and Moto GP Free Stream (http://www.soccertvlive.net/sport/motosport.html)

[rage82]

MyPremium.TV (http://mypremium.tv/)
The last link on the right side is ESPN.

[jonkka]

Veetle sucks

[COVENANT]

Sebastien Loeb completes the penultiate stage in
2m27.4s: “For sure I’m really happy with the
performance, really happy with my driving this weekend
with those guys behind me. I could not plan anything
with strategy, all I could do was push.” That's why he is the best driver in the world. Ozie must learn how to win and not play games....if he does that he will be great driver....

[Miika]

Ketomaa´s crash&roll from yesterday:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qim5MMbB6AM

[N.O.T]

Ozie must learn how to win and not play games....if he does that he will be great driver....

Loeb checking 1 min late was not playing games ?

Latvalas slowing down was not playing games ?

Stop being such a media driven sheep people...Everyone plays tactics as long as the rules allow it and the Stupid FIA doesn't change the starting position....

[wwbroe]

Sordo retired with overheated engine, too bad for the Spaniard.

[logic]

Is the power stage on now?

[René]

Is the power stage on now?

Power stage start 18h11 ;)

[logic]

Thank you!

[Miika]

Spirit of the Rally Award goes to Mikko Pajunen, for once an excellent choice I must say.

[GigiGalliNo1]

So the rally is oveR? I'm confused.

[Jafry]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2011/906/906_rally_finland_2011_6ea02964c5.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2011/906/906_rally_finland_2011_035e1d5734.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2011/906/906_rally_finland_2011_895ce93f0f.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2011/906/906_rally_finland_2011_16f57cb5e3.jpg

More photos from 3th day HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=906&fseason=2011)

[Miika]

So the rally is oveR? I'm confused.

It´s mentioned on the front page of wrc.com

http://www.wrc.com/features/660/WRC2195.jpg

[N.O.T]

the last power stage starts in 30 mins approximately

[garais22]

Hope, that they are Ok
Somijas rallija ceturt (http://www.go4speed.lv/news/somijas-rallija-ceturta-posma-viena-likuma-avare-tris-masinas-video)

[Tom206wrc]

Loeb checking 1 min late was not playing games ?

Latvalas slowing down was not playing games ?

Stop being such a media driven sheep people...Everyone plays tactics as long as the rules allow it and the Stupid FIA doesn't change the starting position....


Totally AGREE !!!! OGIER isn't the lonely one to use this :rolleyes:

[Micke_VOC]

Spirit of the Rally Award goes to Mikko Pajunen, for once an excellent choice I must say.

I agree, remember when i saw him the first time in a F-cup round around 2009 i think. Amazing pace with a Opel kadett.

[BleAivano]

MyPremium.TV (http://mypremium.tv/)
The last link on the right side is ESPN.

they're showing football.

[Tom206wrc]

Congrats to Wilslow...about to beat Räikkönen at his home :p :

[wrc1600]

Sebastien Loeb completes the penultiate stage in
2m27.4s: “For sure I’m really happy with the
performance, really happy with my driving this weekend
with those guys behind me. I could not plan anything
with strategy, all I could do was push.” That's why he is the best driver in the world. Ozie must learn how to win and not play games....if he does that he will be great driver....
+1

[AndyRAC]

Hmm. Power stage isn't live on ESPN, delayed because of a football friendly -marvellous.......or have I got my timings wrong??

[BleAivano]

the stage starts 19.11 local time which is 17.11 your time. i guess that they will show the rally in the interval?

[wrc1600]

Hmm. Power stage isn't live on ESPN, delayed because of a football friendly -marvellous.......or have I got my timings wrong??
You are right, WRC starts in 2 hours time... so they want me to pay for subsciption and then they will not show power stage live... briliant

[GigiGalliNo1]

Stupid ESPN...

Ok, last stage soon ...

[logic]

No where to watch the power stage then :(

[N.O.T]

Its live on national greek TV !!! YOOOHOOOOO !!!!

[N.O.T]

try here...do not know if it works outside greece...

ET1 LIVE (http://www.ert.gr/webtv/index.php/web-tv-live/et1live.html)

[WRCfan]

Is there any other sites running a stream? The football is on ESPN and the Greek site won't work on my PC. Anyone able to help?

[wrc1600]

They ruine this sport... even f1 is for free view

[Andre Oliveira]

http://www.tvgente.com/videosespecias/arseboxsports.htm

[Luis Pacheco]

Watch FIA World Rally Championship Live Stream Online (http://www.firstrowsports.eu/watch/75969/1/watch-fia-world-rally-championship-.html)

[Andre Oliveira]

My link are more "live" than my tv lool

Edit: 3s faster

[AndyRAC]

Is there any other sites running a stream? The football is on ESPN and the Greek site won't work on my PC. Anyone able to help?

Same here, sit and suffer....not good enough. ESPN should have put it live on their website if they couldn't cover it Live.

[jonkka]

Lags like hell

[BleAivano]

Watch FIA World Rally Championship Live Stream Online (http://www.firstrowsports.eu/watch/75969/1/watch-fia-world-rally-championship-.html)

thank you this works (more or less)

[xavier]

Watch FIA World Rally Championship Live Stream Online (http://www.firstrowsports.eu/watch/75969/1/watch-fia-world-rally-championship-.html)

Thanks!

[Andre Oliveira]

Lags like hell

Try this:

http://www.tvgente.com/videosespecias/arseboxsports.htm

[AndyRAC]

Cheers, thanks Luis!!

Still not happy, it's not just F1 fans who are shafted....

[N.O.T]

very boring power stage .....

Kimi fastest so far.

[jonkka]

Try this:

http://www.tvgente.com/videosespecias/arseboxsports.htm

Thanks, much better. But there is persistent ad on middle of the screen.

[N.O.T]

Lol wilslow faster than Icecube....

[Andre Oliveira]

Click on litlle red button

[wrc1600]

Click on litlle red button
Thanks

[Micke_VOC]

Click on litlle red button

thanks...

[jonkka]

Can't see any red button - just Google Adchoices on top right corner...

[jonkka]

Ah, it was MIDDLE of the ad...

[AndyRAC]

Well done Mikko, excellent Rally after his off. Should/could have won this event.

[Micke_VOC]

Östberg is going flat out !!!!!

[Luis Pacheco]

Next year I can not miss this rally.

[gravelman]

Come on Petter!!!

[N.O.T]

Petter slower by 1 second.

[Fly_Half]

Petter third fastest so far, 0.9s slower than Mikko. JML now into stage...

[Woodeye]

What really amazes me is how slow Petter has been the whole weekend. Not even close on any stage. He cannot be that slow in Finland so it must be one crappy car he is driving.

[Francis44]

Funny how the Finns go Ubber wide on that corner after the tarmac.

[N.O.T]

Latvala slower by 0.3

[logic]

Funny how the Finns go Ubber wide on that corner after the tarmac.

Because they are carrying more speed through the corners.

[tfp]

am I too late for the powerstage? Bloody boss made me work today!!

[N.O.T]

Ogier slower by 0.6 ....he went wide on one of the last corners.

[logic]

am I too late for the powerstage? Bloody boss made me work today!!
http://www.motorsportforums.com/wrc/141407-rally-finland-2011-a-60.html

[Francis44]

Because they are carrying more speed through the corners.

Must be.

[N.O.T]

Loeb wins rally Finland !!!!!!!!! What a legend !!!!!!!!

Power stage goes to hirvonen

1-3 for the Citroen !!!!!

[Luis Pacheco]

Congratulations King Loeb!

[BleAivano]

will 2xSeb share PS 3rd place point? (1p each?)

[N.O.T]

power stage result

1. Hirvonen
2. Latvala
3. Ogier

No points for the Champ.

[Miika]

Legend. Respect for Seb 1.0, especially if this is his last time here.

[BleAivano]

power stage result

1. Hirvonen
2. Latvala
3. Ogier

No points for the Champ.

they have the same time according to Výsledky Rallye: Výsledky on-line (http://www.vysledky-rally.cz/vysledky/?rz=160&filtr=) Loeb is listed as nr3 with +0,6 and Ogier is listed as 4th with +0,6
but shouldn't they get 1p each then?

[N.O.T]

First non-scandinavian to win finland twice...

THE BEST DRIVER OF ALL TIMES !!!!!

[Woodeye]

Congrats to THE Seb. :) If anyone he's exactly the right man to be first non-scandinavian to win in Finland.

Good that Mikko won the PS. If he would've stayed on the road on first day, he would've won easily.

[N.O.T]

they have the same time according to Výsledky Rallye: Výsledky on-line (http://www.vysledky-rally.cz/vysledky/?rz=160&filtr=) Loeb is listed as nr3 with +0,6 and Ogier is listed as 4th with +0,6
but shouldn't they get 1p each then?

in the power stage they count the times up to the ,000 of the second so Loeb was slower.

[wrc1600]

Well done Seb, you are the legend living your dream :)
Mr Ogier you wish to have that 13.5 taken... don't try to kick the horse next time ;)

[N.O.T]

. If he would've stayed on the road on first day, he would've won easily.

yes same as in 2010...

now if he could keep the same attitude in the following events would be nice.

[MikeD]

Simply unbelieveable ... such a great feeling to be a fan of Loeb ... celebrating win after win after win after win.

[N.O.T]

you cannot be a rallyfan and not a fan of Loeb....

[tfp]

yes same as in 2010...

now if he could keep the same attitude in the following events would be nice.

What was the overall result? I cant get onto wrc.com and I missed the powerstage thanks to an over enthusiastic boss...

[BleAivano]

Congrats to THE Seb. :) If anyone he's exactly the right man to be first non-scandinavian to win in Finland.

Good that Mikko won the PS. If he would've stayed on the road on first day, he would've won easily.

i'm not so sure. Hirvonen obviously got the speed but he have a tendency to only be fast when he doesn't have a pressure on him.
After the close encounter of the third kind with the three he could drive more relaxed. Had he not hit the tree perhaps
he would have been "The regular Hirvonen".

[Woodeye]

yes same as in 2010...

now if he could keep the same attitude in the following events would be nice.

I wish he could be unfortunately I have my doubts. Who knows, hopefully I'm wrong though.

[rage82]

Congrats to Seb Loeb , what a superb rally he has. Exclusively fast each day being first of the road every morning.

[BleAivano]

in the power stage they count the times up to the ,000 of the second so Loeb was slower.

ok that explains it.

[focus206]

Congratulations to Seb Loeb. No point in saying "he is a legend", he already became a legend time ago.
Anyway, I don't think Hirvonen could have won the rally without the mistake, he went flat-out the whole rally because he had nothing to lose. If he was in the top positions he would have been way slower in my opinion.

[Barreis]

So happy that Loeb won.

[tfp]

At least JML held onto second ok. I knew when I saw the time difference between 1st and 2nd that loeb would win. Well done to him.

Its kinda hard to be a ford fan at the minute though. It seems youre giving them the benifit of the doubt all the time, every time, and they never seem to bring it togethor. Even when you wait for an event where you think they are strong, they still cant win....

I wonder what Malcolm Wilsons excuse is this time.

[logic]

you cannot be a rallyfan and not a fan of Loeb....

I am not a fan of Loeb

[N.O.T]

then its good there is F1 for you...

[René]

Congratulation Mr Loeb and thank you to show us that when you opens the road these are the others which sweep.... :) :)

[tfp]

then its good there is F1 for you...

Fingers crossed for Mclaren tomorrow :laugh:

[logic]

then its good there is F1 for you...

Who are you to tell people what they should like based on what you like?

[Barreis]

Finns, asphalt that roads for king.

[focus206]

What a disappointing result from Citroen... just a 1-3 in Finland instead of the usual 1-2! Malcolm Wilson should be proud :rolleyes:

[N.O.T]

They can always fight back in Germany !!!!

oh wait......

[bretddog]

It's simply awesome to see Loeb win, when Ogier loses. Not that I hate Ogier so much, just dislike him, but I do hate Quesnel.

[wrc1600]

It's simply awesome to see Loeb win, when Ogier loses. Not that I hate Ogier so much, just dislike him, but I do hate Quesnel.
And the best thing is, they both play dirty games behind Loeb's back and he still wins :) How not to admire him...

[bretddog]

But the Ogier game should now be over, so we may see the two-face slip back into old form and praise Loeb during the last rallies of his career. The snake will not miss a spot in the sun when plan A failed.

[Tomi]

but I do hate Quesnel.
Why is that?

[dimviii]

so you think that Loeb and Ogier will risk the championship because they want to prove to each other who is faster....nice dream. F1 suits you better if you think drivers care about tabloid journalism.....


:D :D :D

Congrats to Loeb for reminding to everybody the reason he has 7 world championships.
I couldn t follow all days cause of vacations,but big thanks to Tolis for keeping me informed by mobile and sms.
Also big dissapointments from Finland rally.
Minis are just bit faster than s2000 and not always.Sure they have a lot of work to do if they are serious about wrc.
Impressive Tanak and Ketomaa,but as i saw next days was probably by the clean road.
very good result for Hanninen being calm also when Tanak was faster.They are not a lot of drivers that they can manage something like this.
About Mikko....he is always fast after he f!@# up everything.But this is not getting to be champion.Being in the road while fast is the way.
About Latvala i was waiting to be faster in his home-rally.Too many quotes from ford drivers about no steady rear part of the car.Wondering what they were doing for 4 days...they were extremely happy after their testing.

Its a pitty that championship finished so quickly...

[Francis44]

I agree, the championship is over for Ogier, if he had win here then he might just be in a good position, as there was two more gravel rally's, and I think he will surprise in tarmac this year. Now, I think he should focus on manufacter and second place in standings.

[Tomi]

Congrats to Loeb, good win, especially when the rest wanted to play tactics, here is not big difference if first or third on road, if any. Ogier migth be next foreinger to win here, any others are not in sight sofar.

[BleAivano]

At least JML held onto second ok. I knew when I saw the time difference between 1st and 2nd that loeb would win. Well done to him.

Its kinda hard to be a ford fan at the minute though. It seems youre giving them the benifit of the doubt all the time, every time, and they never seem to bring it togethor. Even when you wait for an event where you think they are strong, they still cant win....

I wonder what Malcolm Wilsons excuse is this time.

He don't need an excuse. even if i'm a citroen fan, fords problem seems to be the drivers and.not the car.

juding by Hirvonens speed, there nothing wrong with the car.

[RS]

At least JML held onto second ok. I knew when I saw the time difference between 1st and 2nd that loeb would win. Well done to him.

Its kinda hard to be a ford fan at the minute though. It seems youre giving them the benifit of the doubt all the time, every time, and they never seem to bring it togethor. Even when you wait for an event where you think they are strong, they still cant win....

I wonder what Malcolm Wilsons excuse is this time.

I think Ford are going to be pretty disappointed with this event. If they can't even win in Finland...

I am beginning to wonder if they can win again this year. The Fiesta is clearly better than the Focus was, but maybe the 2 Sebs are just too good.

When do Mikko and JMLs contracts run to?

[rallyfiend]

I think Ford are going to be pretty disappointed with this event. If they can't even win in Finland...

I am beginning to wonder if they can win again this year. The Fiesta is clearly better than the Focus was, but maybe the 2 Sebs are just too good.

When do Mikko and JMLs contracts run to?

Given that Ford is not even committed to next year, I can't imagine they have contracts with drivers!

[wildsir]

Yes, Sordo has been better than expected in the first two rallies with MINI, and it looks like it will be 2-0 over Meeke after this one. I have always stated that Meeke is way overrated and I predict that Sordo will beat him on the remaining 4 MINI events aswell.

MikeD.. Do a bit of research. Check out Loeb times in 2002.. First time in Finland is WRC car. 6 mins off leader and +1m over Ouninpoha.

http://www.ewrc-results.com/results_mai ... stage=1625 (http://www.ewrc-results.com/results_main.php?event=87&stage=1625)



Ogier.. 2009.. First time in WRC car ... Leustu..
http://www.ewrc-results.com/results_mai ... stage=6785 (http://www.ewrc-results.com/results_main.php?event=396&stage=6785)

Finished +4min off lead

Meeke got within 0.5s/km off Hirvonen (fastest man) on new stages yesterday evening, when he was flat out.

Sordo set some good times today, on stages to know

Armchair critics that can even be bothered to some research.

Conclusion is that Meeke seemed keen to get the the finish of the rally, and the mini still needs some work, but has sound principles.

Germany will be better for Mini. We know how tight Sordo pushed Loeb, and Meeke has good pace there.

[Tomi]

He don't need an excuse. even if i'm a citroen fan, fords problem seems to be the drivers and.not the car.

juding by Hirvonens speed, there nothing wrong with the car.

Latvalas own fault, he hesitated with changing set-up, and when he did it was far too late.

[bretddog]

Why is that?
Because I have functioning people reading skills.

[wildsir]

Latvalas own fault, he hesitated with changing set-up, and when he did it was far too late.

I like JML, but when people set fastest times on last day, and wish they had done it sooner... I have my doubts. Fact is, Loeb won the rally on 1st stage this morning. Sub counciously.. He took less risks from there on and Ogier was resigned to 2nd.

[Sulland]

Hat off for Loeb !

[RS]

very good result for Hanninen being calm also when Tanak was faster.They are not a lot of drivers that they can manage something like this.


Hanninen showed a great performance this weekend. If he hadn't slowed down after Tanak rolled he may have beaten Raikkonen, Wilson and Henning. I guess that would have been the smallest gap we have ever seen between WRCar and S2000 on a WRC Rally.

[Carlo]

Nice to wake up in NZ this morning to read that our local car club member has dominated PWRC again. Congratulations to Hayden Paddon and John Kennard on a job well done.

The All Blacks beat the Sprinboks last night 40 - 7 so all is well in the land of the Kiwi

[Barreis]

He don't need an excuse. even if i'm a citroen fan, fords problem seems to be the drivers and.not the car.

juding by Hirvonens speed, there nothing wrong with the car.

Agree.

[Miika]

Podium celebrations featuring the top 9 of the rally (sound a bit off sync in the end):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qg9UDQeVxYA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RachI_lcZn8

Crash highlights with few more unseen incidents:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-ug2sXs7BM

[BleAivano]

How do you calculate your pickems point? this round my pickems (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wrc/146751-pickem-2011-rally-finland.html#post944972) looked like this:

S Loeb, picked winner[/*:m:1m5xlq3h]
M Hirvonen, top 8[/*:m:1m5xlq3h]
S Ogier, cor.plc[/*:m:1m5xlq3h]
J Latvala, top 8[/*:m:1m5xlq3h]
P Solberg, cor.plc[/*:m:1m5xlq3h]
M Ostberg, cor.plc[/*:m:1m5xlq3h]
K Raikkonen, wrong[/*:m:1m5xlq3h]
M Wilson top 8[/*:m:1m5xlq3h]

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Rally Finland: Overall standings after Stage 22 (Top 10):

1. Sebastien Loeb Citroen Total WRT DS3 WRC 2hours 39mins 37.0secs M
2. Jari-Matti Latvala Ford Abu Dhabi WRT Fiesta RS WRC +00mins 08.1secs M
3. Sebastien Ogier Citroen Total WRT DS3 WRC +00mins 12.8secs M
4. Mikko Hirvonen Ford Abu Dhabi WRT Fiesta RS WRC +01mins 09.1secs M
5. Petter Solberg PSWRT Citroen (http://www.crash.net/world+rally/team_profile/26/citroen_total_world_rally_team.html) DS3 WRC +01mins 16.2secs M
6. Mads Ostberg M-Sport Stobart (http://www.crash.net/world+rally/team_profile/28/stobart_vk_m-sport_ford_rally_team.html) Ford Fiesta RS WRC +01mins 27.8secs M
7. Henning Solberg M-Sport Stobart (http://www.crash.net/world+rally/team_profile/28/stobart_vk_m-sport_ford_rally_team.html) Ford Fiesta RS WRC +03mins 25.5secs
8. Matthew Wilson M-Sport Stobart (http://www.crash.net/world+rally/team_profile/28/stobart_vk_m-sport_ford_rally_team.html) Ford Fiesta RS WRC +03mins 53.2secs M
9. Kimi Raikkonen ICE1 Racing Citroen (http://www.crash.net/world+rally/team_profile/26/citroen_total_world_rally_team.html) DS3 WRC +03mins 59.8secs M
10. Juho Hanninen Red Bull Skoda Fabia S2000 +05mins 13.7secs S

Others:

11. Dennis Kuipers FERM Powertools Ford Fiesta RS WRC +07mins 41.3secs M
12. Martin Prokop Ford Fiesta S2000 +07mins 51.4secs S
13. Ott Tanak Ford Fiesta S2000 +08mins 52.0secs S
14. Khalid Al-Qassimi Team Abu Dhabi Ford Fiesta RS WRC +09mins 47.8secs M
15. PG Andersson Subaru Impreza R4 +09mins 54.7secs
16. Hermann Gassner Jr Skoda Fabia S2000 +11mins 06.3secs S
19. Hayden Paddon Subaru Impreza WRX STi +12mins 20.2secs P
20. Armindo Araujo Motorsport Italia Mini John Cooper Works +12mins 53.0secs


Rally Finland: Power Stage / SS22 (Top 3):

1. Mikko Hirvonen Ford Abu Dhabi WRT Fiesta RS WRC 2mins 39.6secs M
2. Jari-Matti Latvala Ford Abu Dhabi WRT Fiesta RS WRC +00mins 00.3secs M
3. Sebastien Loeb Citroen Total WRT DS3 WRC +00mins 00.6secs M

NOTE: Top three finishers in Power Stage are awarded bonus points. 1st = 3 points; 2nd = 2 points; 3rd = 1 point


SWRC standings after Stage 22 (Top 3):

1. Juho Hanninen Red Bull Skoda Fabia S2000 2hours 44mins 50.7secs S
2. Martin Prokop Ford Fiesta S2000 +02mins 37.7secs S
3. Ott Tanak Ford Fiesta S2000 +03mins 38.3secs S


PWRC standings after Stage 22 (Top 3):

1. Hayden Paddon Subaru Impreza WRX STi 2hours 51mins 57.2secs P
2. Jarkko Nikara Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX +00mins 40.2secs P
3. Patrik Flodin Subaru Impreza WRX STi +01mins 07.7secs P


Notable retirements:

SS2. Matti Rantanen Mini John Cooper Works Off the road

SS4. Mattias Therman Mini John Cooper Works Off the road*
SS8. Jari Ketomaa HJ-Autotalo.com Ford Fiesta RS WRC Off the road
SS8. Evgeny Novikov M-Sport Stobart (http://www.crash.net/world+rally/team_profile/28/stobart_vk_m-sport_ford_rally_team.html) Ford Fiesta RS WRC Stopped*
SS8. Joonas Lindroos VW Motorsport Skoda Fabia S2000 Off the road

SS16/17. Evgeny Novikov M-Sport Stobart (http://www.crash.net/world+rally/team_profile/28/stobart_vk_m-sport_ford_rally_team.html) Ford Fiesta RS WRC Oil pressure
SS18. Andreas MikkelsenVW Motorsport Skoda Fabia S2000 Mechanical
SS20. Kris Meeke Mini WRT John Cooper Works Engine
SS21. Dani Sordo Mini WRT John Cooper Works Engine

[MJW]

Given that Ford is not even committed to next year, I can't imagine they have contracts with drivers!
As far as I know Ford are committed to 2012, with Mikko and Jari-Matti. Ford are due in the autumn to make the decision whether to extend their involvement beyond 2012.