Mecsek Rallye 2011

[Bence Magyar]

Hi everybody! If there's any question about the Hungarian IRC round please do not hesitate to ask. I'll try to annswer everything from A to Z.

[wwbroe]

That is very good to know, is there any info yet about possible stages? ;)

[Bence Magyar]

As far as I know nothing is fixed yet but I suppose it is going to be pretty much similar to the previous editions. This means fast and bumby tarmac stages in the Mecsek with not much room for mistakes. The trees by the road are punishing hard even if there is only a slight mistake. I expect a few high speed crashes from both the internationals and the Hungarians. The battle is going to be very interesting though.

[wwbroe]

Thanks again for the info, please keep us informed as the rally is approaching. I am not sure yet that i will be able to come but i think there might be some possibility.

[urabus-denoS2000]

I'm looking forward to this rally very much :)

[Bence Magyar]

The rally will be in september so it's too early to know the details but I'll be here in the future and try to inform you if there is any new information available. There is usually a massive crowd on the stages, the beer is cheap, the atmosphere is faboulus, the girls are pretty and "nothardtoget", and the countryside is also spectacular, so it's a good package for a nice weekend in Hungary!

[muratgunarslan]

are there any video from last rally?

[Bence Magyar]

You can find lot of videos on youtube for example, just search for "Mecsek Rallye". Here's one from last year: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPlBFCJ4mvs

[Plhus]

Do you have any news about the rallying in Hungary?

[Bence Magyar]

The season opener (Eger Rally) will be in april and there's gonna be six or seven rounds in 2010. The field is going to be 3-4 S2000 cars (maybe 1-2 more), a shipload of Mitsubishi Evos and few R3 and R2 cars plus many various cars. I recently read an article about a guy who is building a Mitsubishi Evo X R4 for a customer driver and the car will be availible for rent. The financial crisis still in the country therefore very hard to find the budget for everybody but it's the same everywhere I guess...

[Tom206wrc]

http://www.rallyheart.hu/201103075778/krozser-menya-citroen-ds3-mal.html

:confused: :confused:

[Mirek]

Krózser is going to drive Mecsek, Barum and Sanremo in IRC and Hungarian championship with DS3. I think that it's the meaning of the article.

[Ciko]

Krózser is going to drive Mecsek, Barum and Sanremo in IRC and Hungarian championship with DS3. I think that it's the meaning of the article.

That's right! Car will be prepared by TBR (Team Butor Robert).

[Tom206wrc]

Thanks Ciko and Mirek ;)
So Hunt won't be alone in IRC with that car :p :

[NRI]

Normally, we will be there with Eric Mauffrey and the new Renault Megane RS Gr.N

[NRI]

what is the town centre of the event ? where is it ?

[Ciko]

what is the town centre of the event ? where is it ?
The center of the event is "Pécs":
http://href.hu/x/erzi

[Bartek]

From Pecs to stages is a long road? One time i had big problems with communication in Hungary, nobody spoke English, now is better? And last question, how much is a hotel room or other place to sleep in your country? :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_Leytn0zPw > stage from this movie can be this year? btw. what happened with this site?

[wwbroe]

Question for the local guys, i have seen they put stages online. Is there any Google Earth version available of the stages or some gps-tracks (for example .gpx file)? Thanks in advance for sharing it with me, if you don't want to put it online you can pm me. ;)

[Bence Magyar]

Hi wwbroe!

Sorry for the late answer, I just came back from holiday. I gonna check it and if I find something I will let you know. Will you attend the rally on site?

[wwbroe]

Hi wwbroe!

Sorry for the late answer, I just came back from holiday. I gonna check it and if I find something I will let you know. Will you attend the rally on site?

I will be trying to come and spectate the event, but not 100% sure yet that i will manage to get there. ;)

[rallyeati]

Foreign entries received up to 6th August 2011.
45. Mecsek Rallye - Entries received up to date (http://irc.mecsekrallye.hu/en/news/Entries_received_up_to_date)

Entries closure: 15th August 2011 (24:00 hours)

[Mirek]

Some surprising names.

[rallyeati]

Some surprising names.

Plus 5-6 hungarian S2000: Toth, Butor(206), Turan, Kakuszi(Fiesta), Hercig(Skoda), maybe Vizin(VW).

I really hope Kopecky, Hanninen and Loix will entry later.
Any chance or news that some czech drivers join the rally?

[mousti]

Wasn't in Loix his program if he's still can get the title after Barum of Sanremo then maybe he'll do Scotland and Cyprus..

[wwbroe]

Loix will certainly do Mecsek rally :D

[rallyeati]

I collect some onboard video from earlier years.

DAY1:

SS1/5 - Hetvehely (Suba 2005) (http://rally.hu/yappa/rally/2005/video/suba_mecsek_gy3.wmv)

SS2/6 - Orfű (Turi / Tóth 2006) (http://www.racing.hu/EventVideo.aspx?esiID=1000389885)

SS3/7 - Pécsvárad (Pusztitó) (http://video.racing.hu/pusztito)

SS4/8 - Alsómocsolád (Turi / Tóth 2009) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4A8go9SPFg)
SS4/8 - Alsómocsolád (Förster / Medinger 2011) (http://www.youtube.com/user/XpeddaX#p/a/u/0/_FI82ROmJLA)


DAY2:

SS9/12 - Zobák (Boroznaki 2010) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD2EdeahPio)

SS11/14 - Nyárásvölgy (Balázs Öcsi 2005 - Lada, wet :D ) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSvBLxWLW5w&feature=related)
SS11/14 - Nyárásvölgy (Förster / Medinger 2011) (http://www.youtube.com/user/XpeddaX#p/a/u/1/uh2zyQx1kxM)

[rallyeati]

Entries update 12th August (http://irc.mecsekrallye.hu/hir/Beerkezett_nevezesek_ERC_IRC_)

Kopecky, Loix, Basso, PG Andersson :D

So now 24 S2000 on the list, with 6 hungarian driver.

[RS]

Surprised to see Gassner Jr with Red Bull Skoda there.

[tolis]

Entry List published without seeded order.
http://irc.mecsekrallye.hu/data/2011/0825/773/M45_EntryList.pdf
No Hanninen... :(

[N.O.T]

No Asi ??? why ??

[tolis]

No Asi ??? why ??
Have a look at line 27. He is in.

[N.O.T]

Nice..didn't expect him to get such a low seeding...

[rallyeati]

No Asi ??? why ??

Of course he's in. He want to win :)
And this event is part of hungarian championship with 1.5 points, so the winner get 30 points, and the standing is:
1.ifj. Tóth, Peugeot 54
2.Kazár, Mitsubishi 53
3.Asi, Mitsubishi 50
4.Herczig, Skoda 45
5.Bútor, Peugeot 34
6.Hadik, Subaru 34
7.Kakuszi, Ford 31

[mousti]

No Hanninen? So they do really expect that Kopecky will finish the deal (IRC Champion) good ?

[wwbroe]

Don't worry for Hanninen, he will normally do last three events San Remo, Scotland and Cyprus. With three victory's allready behind his belt, it will be very difficult to beat him, knowing also that last two event's are on gravel and mixed surface.

[mousti]

I knew that for sure with the double. But now that Kopecky comes pretty close to leadership, maybe he'll find a new breath and all attack :D . Plus Cyprus are very rough roads where u can easily get flat tyres plus Super 2000 are a bit fragile on that surface. Breaking suspension. But yes even with that Hanninen will probably retain his title.

[urabus-denoS2000]

I'm really looking forward to this rally , and meeting some international forumers :)

[rallyeati]

Current weather and forecast: Idokep (http://www.idokep.hu)

and

Google Earth Map (http://data.hu/get/4186604/Mecsek_Rally_IRC_2011_by_rallyeati.rar) (click on gray button "Lassú letöltés")

[tolis]

Entry List in seeded order: http://irc.mecsekrallye.hu/data/2011/0901/076/r45%20nevezesi%20lista.pdf

Can't understand the reason why Juho doesn't start...

[Wim_Impreza]

Toni Gardemeister start after Marco Tempestini, I hope it won't suffer problems for Toni in the long stages.

[PLuto]

Entry List in seeded order: http://irc.mecsekrallye.hu/data/2011/0901/076/r45%20nevezesi%20lista.pdf

Can't understand the reason why Juho doesn't start...

Juho doesn't need start... And order isnt so perfect, for example Kahle doesnt have FIA B priority...

[PLuto]

Toni Gardemeister start after Marco Tempestini, I hope it won't suffer problems for Toni in the long stages.

Thats why I put on Barum rally as last priority driver Vaclav Pech...

[RS]

Hungary is quite a difficult one to call as it is a new event. Loix and Kopecky seem on top form at the moment but Mikkelsen showed real pace on Barum and it's about time Wilks won too. Then we have Neuville and Bouffier too. Predictions?

[bluuford]

Juho doesn't need start... And order isnt so perfect, for example Kahle doesnt have FIA B priority...

I think that main reason is that Juho or Skoda neither do not have billions of spare euros to spend to all events that take place in Europe. Less than two weeks later he has French WRC event already and maybe he goes to Australia for recce? And title for Skoda and title to one of their drivers is pretty sure in IRC already. At least Skoda bosses are more reasonable than some guys in WRC and they do not fight with the whole army against weaker opposition.

[wwbroe]

I wonder what Turan can do against IRC regulars, it is finally some really good tarmac driver behind the wheel of the Ford Fiesta. (no offence to some other drivers). He did very good job in France (i think) last year, so looking forward to his times in his native country.

[urabus-denoS2000]

I wonder what Turan can do against IRC regulars, it is finally some really good tarmac driver behind the wheel of the Ford Fiesta. (no offence to some other drivers). He did very good job in France (i think) last year, so looking forward to his times in his native country.

I think there are more dangerous Hungarians than Turan ;)

[PLuto]

I dont believe Turan so much. Sandell won SWRC round last year in Germany...

[Mirek]

I think there are more dangerous Hungarians than Turan ;)

I wonder what can Asi do (hopefully with legal car)? I remember first IRC in Barum when local knowledge played much bigger role than now when most of regulars know the stages. In 2007 Kresta with Gr.N and 32 mm restrictor was able to win several stages, now it's completely impossible...

[urabus-denoS2000]

I have a feeling that Asi will bring a surprise . He is an excellent class of driver , with local advantage for Hungarians the difference between his R4 and S2000 won't be as large ( as Mirek said , first time for IRC runners ) . Also he has a large fan base so I'm sure he will be very motivated . I also expect much from Robert Butor , with Herczig and Toth also close .

[rallyeati]

45. Canon Mecsek Rallye Skoda Testday (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA2iedmn4qs)

[urabus-denoS2000]

What stages do you guys suggest ? Is Orfu still a circuit stage ?

[Fri]

Pictures from Skoda test (Loix, Kopecky, Mikkelsen, Herczig):
rallysport.hu - Barum Rally 2011 (http://www.rallysport.hu/images/2011/photo/irc/08_mecsek/01_skoda_test/index.htm)

[Fri]

Pictures from Skoda test (Loix, Kopecky, Mikkelsen, Herczig)

rallysport.hu - IRC Mecsek Rally, Skoda teszt (http://www.rallysport.hu/images/2011/photo/irc/08_mecsek/01_skoda_test/index.htm)

[RICARDO75]

Andreas Mikkelsen onboard testing
Pre-event test Hungary A.Mikkelsen - YouTube (http://youtu.be/P0LfblELWgc)

[Salist]

Official Programme:
45. Mecsek Rallye - Programme (http://irc.mecsekrallye.hu/en/irc_Programme)

[rallyeati]

Skoda test (4:59 - 63.8MB)
http://www.pecstv.hu/lepoldsportvideo/45_canon_mecsek_rally_2011_monday_skoda_test.wmv

[RS]

Skoda test (4:59 - 63.8MB)
http://www.pecstv.hu/lepoldsportvideo/45_canon_mecsek_rally_2011_monday_skoda_test.wmv

Very nice.

Any videos from Peugeot or Proton tests?

[mousti]

So who would be the fastest Hungarian Toth? Turan seems not the favorite here :D Asi maybe good but still that Evo X against a S2000...

[urabus-denoS2000]

So who would be the fastest Hungarian Toth? Turan seems not the favorite here :D Asi maybe good but still that Evo X against a S2000...

Asi is with Evo IX ... Butor is my favourite ;)

[Fri]

Ottó Michna will drive Korda Racing's Subaru Impreza S12B WRC on Mecsek Rally.

: : RallySport.hu - Subaru WRC a Mecsek Rallyn : : (http://www.rallysport.hu/info/2011/09/09-07_irc_subaru_wrc_a_mecseken.htm)

2 years after Tamás Turi's horrible crash. pics from crashed car:
rallysport.hu (http://www.rallysport.hu/images/2009/Photo/HU/ORB05_Mecsek/02_Subaru_roncs/index.htm)

[mousti]

And what are the Hungarians here thinking? :p

[Fri]

pics from shakedown:
rallysport.hu - Canon Mecsek Rally - shakedown (http://www.rallysport.hu/images/2011/photo/irc/08_mecsek/02_fri_shakedown/index.htm)

[Mirek]

Times from shakedown: http://irc.mecsekrallye.hu/data/2011/0908/444/shakedown.pdf

Asi veeery fast.

[Bence Magyar]

My guess is:

1. Asi, 2. Turán, 3. Tóth

Stages are pretty fast and the S2000 cars will be on the limiter for ages... :) Evo Mitsubishis could reach 200 kph and Asi is a pilot who can bring out the maximum from his car.


And what are the Hungarians here thinking? :p

[mousti]

I expect the same now, that guy could do in IRC very well! Last year in Catalunya superb result!

[Salist]

My photos from shakedown:
Shakedown (http://www.wr-x.com/#/irc-img/2011-28/irc-2011-mecsek-rallye-hun--73/)

[pettersolberg29]

Interesting to look at the times compared to the number of runs. After 2 runs for every driver, Mikkelsen is quickest by a couple of seconds from everyone except Gardemeister. It's not until Neuville's 7th run that the time is beaten.

[Fri]

shakedown video:
: : RallySport.hu - IRC Mecsek Rally, shakedown : : (http://www.rallysport.hu/images/2011/video/052-rshu_mecsek_rally_shakedown.htm)

[Wittmanello]

I dont believe Turan so much. Sandell won SWRC round last year in Germany...
True, but do you really believe that Sandell has the same material as last year?
Or maybe he has but not the rest of the leading drivers.

[Mirek]

Franz, I don't believe it's all about car. Last time I saw Sandell was in Barum and he was braking earlier than top guys, doing corrections in corners etc. Since it was visible by spectator it must be a reasonable difference...

[Wittmanello]

I can not say I have not seen him drive, but I know how he drove in Germany. I just assumed that he is another "victim" of the disparities between S2000s and S2000s.

[Mirek]

I can not say I have not seen him drive, but I know how he drove in Germany. I just assumed that he is another "victim" of the disparities between S2000s and S2000s.

I would quite disagree. Of course, there is a difference between works and other cars but it's not all. In SWRC Germany he drove on bullet proof Pirelli tyres with universal thread for dry or wet. Driving on these tyres was quite different and his flamboyant style suited it. I don't think it's just a bad luck when You pick five or six punctures in one rally (Yalta). There he was able to win shakedown (I think) but on stages it was puncture by puncture and he had to change his style. Here in Barum he was slower than 18-years old Karl Kruuda with exactly same car from same team (from same team PG was in last year).

Anyway, did he have worse car than Toni Gardemesiter who was moreover on Hankook tyres and had troubles with clutch? I doubt so...

[Wittmanello]

I think this discussion leads nowhere - looking forward to an interesting event :)

[Wim_Impreza]

There isn't a Swedish top driver for years.

Franz, please can you let us know what are your plans for the next months?

[Mirek]

In a series of short interviews with Kopecký, Mikkelsen, Bouffier and Gardemeister on Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/) the drivers complain about too fast stages. Kopecký said there is 16 chicanes in one stage...

[[Madeira-Rally]]

16 chicanes??? WTFucing stage.... :s

[Bartek]

In a series of short interviews with Kopecký, Mikkelsen, Bouffier and Gardemeister on Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/) the drivers complain about too fast stages. Kopecký said there is 16 chicanes in one stage...

16? Hahaha :) Maybe better option was to take car for drag racing or something like that.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0rG-ittu4c

[Mirek]

]16 chicanes??? WTFucing stage.... :s

I think that one stage is half-circuit. Maybe it's the one. I don't know these stages but if it is similar like Eger, it will be faster than Barum which is often too fast as well...

[Mirek]

Results: Canon Mecsek Rallye 2011 - Results - Rally-Base (http://rally-base.com/2011/canon-mecsek-rallye-2011/?ssId=760)

[darkstar]

wow, mikkelsen is very fast again, and basso already gone...

[Mirek]

Great time for Turán!

[darkstar]

defenetly. i hadnt expected that the local´s will be so strong! also asi, butor and toth are not bad yet!


There isn't a Swedish top driver for years.

i think andersson is very good. he just (almost) never had top material to show what he can do in the past years. but with what he had, he always squeezed out the best of it. suzuki wrc(was often faster then mutch more experienced gardemeister), skoda fabia wrc(norway 2009 he set some fastest times with that old car, then retired with clutch problem), fabia s2000(win in sweden, 2nd in finland, 3rd in germany after some bad luck, was leading till day 3, then his team ran out of money) focus wrc from stobart, proton satria and at this year´s start of the season fiesta wrc. last one he also showed some real good times with, especially when you look what others do and did with the private fords this year.

[Wim_Impreza]

i think andersson is very good. he just never had top material to show what he can do in the past years. suzuki wrc, skoda fabia wrc, focus wrc from stobart, proton satria and at this year´s start of the season fiesta wrc. last one he showed some real good times with, especially when you look what others do and did with the private fords this year.

Can you say me a rally with a very good result for Andersson then, without an accident or a big mistake? In the last car he only showed more mistakes then fast times and he was clearly beaten by Østberg.

[darkstar]

thats not true, he had some mistakes and offs yes, but he also didnt have mutch driving routine last years. and shure he was slower in sweden then östberg, but he also didnt have no test´s and no experience with the car, while östberg had. and östberg also did some rallye´s with fiesta s2000 on snow before witch should have prepared him quite well. after that östberg just didnt show nothing anymore, he´s one of the most overrated drivers ever in my opinion. andersson meanwhile again set some very fast times at sardinia, almost always top 5(when he reached finish of the stage ;) ) sometimes 2nd fastest times etc. and always faster then östberg and novikov. again with no test before the rallye.

sometimes its good to read a bit between the lines...

i dont want to say andersson is the best driver available, but he is shurely very, very fast. i think with a top spec car and some testing he could be a winner! if i was vw i also would give him a test drive in a skoda s2000. he has the speed, he only has a lack of consistency. but i think that´s something witch disappears if you drive more rallyes and have more tests. alsmost every top driver had lots of crashes before he became consistent.

[Wim_Impreza]

In my opinion Andersson is one of the most overrated drivers ever. Yes, he can set fast times, but the only thing what really count to teambosses and most people are the final results. His fast times in Sardinia came when he made another mistake...

You can't compare a +30 year old driver like Andersson with such young drivers like Østberg and Novikov, especially because they don't have much experience worldwide yet. Andersson has again problems and is still a crash driver at 31 years.

[TO99926R]

SS2-Andersson:Broken wheel.

[darkstar]

damn, wim you´re mabye right ;)

but come on, östberg is around for years now(driving a wrc since 2004) and there´s almost no good result of him at all. who´s really impressing is mikkelsen now, to get back to topic, setting another fastest time in hungary ;) he´s really someone who has improved a lot in the past. (but also is still a crash kid or, at least maybe, was)

[Bartek]

I'm sad to say this but Bouffier after Ypres is slower and slower in each successive rally.

[RS]

If stages are this fast I doubt PG's engine will last long either...

[wwbroe]

Nobody wanted to believe me that Turan would be probably the biggest treath to IRC regulars. :o Also good pace by young Neuville and old Loix. :D

[Mirek]

I'm sad to say this but Bouffier after Ypres is slower and slower in each successive rally.

In Barum Bouffier was in a fight for victory before he crashed...

[TO99926R]

1.Botka Mitsubishi 1.06.0
...
46.Andreas Mikkelsen +20.1 (Ola Floene drove the car.)

[RS]

1.Botka Mitsubishi 1.06.0
...
46.Andreas Mikkelsen +20.1 (Ola Floene drove the car.)

Is that yesterday's prologue stage?

[TO99926R]

yes.

[Mirek]

MP3 interviews after SS2: Autosport : IRC - Mecsek Rallye (IRC) (http://www.autosport.cz/zavody/audio.php?id=909&kat=243))

[tolis]

What about Turan?
Edit: Ok, he has started the stage.

[amilk]

ifj Toth loosing so much time because the car run just with rear traction

[Wim_Impreza]

What is ifj? junior or senior or another answer?

[TO99926R]

junior

[amilk]

ifj = junior

[darkstar]

drivers complain about crazy spectators, bouffier said they were running over the stage when he was approaching...not so good.

[Wim_Impreza]

Thank you TO99926R and amilk.

[TO99926R]

Online results:
live.rally.hu - 45. Mecsek Rallye (http://live.rally.hu/utvonallap.php?vid=194)

[Mirek]

Sorry for some technical problems with results. Guys are working to make it all ok asap.

[darkstar]

aschenbrenner is crazy...wow!

[dimviii]

Asi is impressive with r4 evo.
But most impressive is Mikkelsen.

[darkstar]

defenetly, mikkelsen is more and more becoming amazingly fast on tarmac.

[pettersolberg29]

Only just got in to see the results, and I'm still a bit confused. At IRC results it says Andreas is 0.7s in the lead from Loix, while at liverally.hu it says he's 14.4s ahead of Neuville. Which one is right?

Either way I'm delighted to see him show his true potential and hopefully, hopefully get his first win.

[Mirek]

Asi is impressive with r4 evo.
But most impressive is Mikkelsen.

Great time now also for Harrach.

[Mirek]

Only just got in to see the results, and I'm still a bit confused. At IRC results it says Andreas is 0.7s in the lead from Loix, while at liverally.hu it says he's 14.4s ahead of Neuville. Which one is right?

Either way I'm delighted to see him show his true potential and hopefully, hopefully get his first win.

14,4 infront of Neuville is right. There were have been issues with IRC result system...

[dimviii]

Great time now also for Harrach.

Yes Harrach is faster stage by stage.

[Hartusvuori]

defenetly, mikkelsen is more and more becoming amazingly fast on tarmac.

Mikkelseen seems to have picked up where he left on Barum sunday. Very impressive pace so far, he would deserve the win. After Hänninen he seems to be the second Nordic driver who have learned to drive on tarmac in IRC rounds, something which wouldn't have happened had he continued paying various WRC rounds. If Mikkelsen wins this he is not out of the title competition just yet.

[Mirek]

Mikkelsen said that he became faster on asphalt thanks to lessons in FIA Drivers Academy (not the same thing as WRC Academy).

[Hartusvuori]

Mikkelsen said that he became faster on asphalt thanks to lessons in FIA Drivers Academy (not the same thing as WRC Academy).

True, but IRC with mostly tarmac rounds must have a role too. Same as Hänninen says he learned tarmac pace on Skoda tests.

[amilk]

Stage 8 cancelled due to safety reasons (too much spectator)

Guy stopped on stage 5

[pettersolberg29]

Wilks out - don't know the reason yet.

[amilk]

Wilks out - don't know the reason yet.

non official- some fire in the car at Wilks

[Hartusvuori]

Bad luck for Wilks. Shame. Loix lost some ground on SS5.

[Mirek]

MP3 interviews after SS4: Autosport : IRC - Mecsek Rallye (IRC) (http://www.autosport.cz/zavody/audio.php?id=909&kat=244)

[RS]

Another engine problem for Wilks.

[amilk]

Turan off road on stage 5

[Salist]

Frigyes Turan went off SS5 - broked the front suspension

[focus206]

Too bad for Turan, he was doing well :(

[RS]

It is good to finally hear comments like this from Kopecky: " I was pushing hard now. We changed the setup and the car is perfect now."

Normally it is "Yeeeessssss/Nooooooo, I don't know because other guys are pushing really hard now. We don't want to do any stupid mistake."

[Hartusvuori]

Kopecky is finding his speed. On the contrary Loix is losing his, another 9s lost.

[TO99926R]

Turánék bukása | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150361045661635.396389.214113936634&refid=0)

[bluuford]

Holy sh*t

[TO99926R]

Turán Frigyes - IRC 2011 Pécs bukás - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVycAVVGkdg)

[Hartusvuori]

Gardemeister mentioned those vicious logs in his FB after recce. The car just flips on the air!

[Salist]

Turánék bukása | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150361045661635.396389.214113936634&refid=0)

"Nice" job... :(

[RS]

Worse quality but better video: Turán - Zsiros crash 2011 IRC Mecsek rally Hungary - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzAfJ693j1o)

[Juha_Koo]

One hell of a bang... Unbelievable performance by the rollcage.

[Mirek]

Worse quality but better video: Turán - Zsiros crash 2011 IRC Mecsek rally Hungary - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzAfJ693j1o)

OMG...

MP3 interviews after SS6: http://www.autosport.cz/zavody/audio.php?id=909&kat=245

[Mirek]

And also MP3 after the leg 1: Autosport : IRC - Mecsek Rallye (IRC) (http://www.autosport.cz/zavody/audio.php?id=909&kat=246)

[mousti]

This could ended very dramatically! That tree was laying very bad!

[wwbroe]

Well, i guess that tree was not put there overnight, so it was laying there also in recce. Then only conclusion can be that he was too fast or was cutting where he wasn't supposed to be. Pitty for him, because he was doing one excellent race. :(

[Mirek]

Like almost every morning Kopecký looses some valuable time. Neuville getting closer.

Herzig crashed.

[wwbroe]

On second stage of the day Kopecky is as fast as Mikkelsen. Neuville is loosing some time on this one with "big,big moment" :D
Bouffier is finally doing some better or at least decent times. For the victory it will be probably between Mikkelsen en Kopecky, while third podium place will be a fight between Belgians. :)

[dimviii]

Arai again constantly slower from n4 cars...

[Mirek]

So after all Basso didn't go off at the end of SS1 as reported. It was a an oil leak caused by loose oil filter...

[Mirek]

MP3 interviews after SS11: Autosport : IRC - Mecsek Rallye (IRC) (http://www.autosport.cz/zavody/audio.php?id=909&kat=247)

[darkstar]

turans off from another view: Turán - Zsiros crash 2011 IRC Mecsek rally Hungary - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzAfJ693j1o)

[Salist]

It was a huge crash from Turan. :(

[Mirek]

Crazy times now. It looks like 3-way battle will last till the end.

[darkstar]

defenetly, think mikkelsen has had some mistake or so...rallyeradio unfortunately is playing music, whats going on there?

[dimviii]

10 sec diff and 41,7 ss km more .Lets see!

[Mirek]

Also Asi/Gassner, Gardemeister/Bútor, Harrach/Kruuda, Botka/Herbold, Matics/Pethó/Arai, Albertini/Krózser - many battles on :)

[pettersolberg29]

Andreas retired - stage cancelled :(

Hope he's ok.

[dimviii]

Andreas retired - stage cancelled :(

Hope he's ok.

oh nooooo!!

[pettersolberg29]

Driver and co-driver OK

[Mirek]

Kopecký: Andreas was too wide and hit a tree. It's big shame, because it was great battle, but the main that boys are OK.

[dimviii]

129.61 average for Kopecky!

[darkstar]

stage is running again.

[Mirek]

Stage restarted

[RS]

Another error for Mikkelsen. It seems it takes at least one full year in IRC to get up to full speed and driver reliability.

[RS]

Stage restarted

How is that going to work? Crews who already started to be given notional time?

[Mirek]

You can restart stage normally if the delay is less than 15 minutes. The only one on stage before it was stopped was Kopecký and he finished rather normally (reasonably faster than in first run).

[pettersolberg29]

Another error for Mikkelsen. It seems it takes at least one full year in IRC to get up to full speed and driver reliability.

I think the speed is now there, no question. If he can become reliable then next year he could walk away with the championship in my opinion.

[focus206]

Nooo Andreas :(

[RS]

I think the speed is now there, no question. If he can become reliable then next year he could walk away with the championship in my opinion.

I tend to agree. I was just making the point that it is hard for even very talented drivers like Andreas to come in and be at the front of IRC straight away. Somebody else made the point that Bouffier's speed had been disappointing after Monte.

I am still expecting a win from Andreas on Scotland or Cyprus though!

[Mirek]

I must say that Hermann Gassner is doing very well today!

[pettersolberg29]

I tend to agree. I was just making the point that it is hard for even very talented drivers like Andreas to come in and be at the front of IRC straight away. Somebody else made the point that Bouffier's speed had been disappointing after Monte.

I am still expecting a win from Andreas on Scotland or Cyprus though!

Oh yeah I agreed with your point entirely. Andreas is probably the biggest talent in the IRC, but in his first year in the Fabia and first year of full, proper competition he hasn't fulfilled his potential in terms of results. At least the pace is there - as everyone always says, you can teach reliablity but you can't teach speed.

I think Andreas is the fastest gravel driver except Juho, so if Juho misses either of those rounds I'd expect Andreas to win...bar another stupid mistake!

[dimviii]

I must say that Hermann Gassner is doing very well today!

really very well!Just passed Asi.

[Mirek]

Last stage is delayed to 15:11.

[darkstar]

yes, im really a bit impressed by gassner, hope he can keep that pace for france...in germany some say its due to codriver. he must have had problems with pacenotes all season already, but dont know how mutch is true about it.

[RS]

yes, im really a bit impressed by gassner, hope he can keep that pace for france...in germany some say its due to codriver. he must have had problems with pacenotes all season already, but dont know how mutch is true about it.

Has he dumped the lady or is Gottschalk only for this event?

I kind of presumed Gassner had got that Red Bull drive from his dad being buddies with Baumschlager but maybe I was wrong.

[RS]

Oh yeah I agreed with your point entirely. Andreas is probably the biggest talent in the IRC, but in his first year in the Fabia and first year of full, proper competition he hasn't fulfilled his potential in terms of results. At least the pace is there - as everyone always says, you can teach reliablity but you can't teach speed.

It was a very similar story for Juho... But Andreas has the advantage of being much younger. I'm sure those two will play a part in VWs WRC effort.

[darkstar]

Has he dumped the lady or is Gottschalk only for this event?

I kind of presumed Gassner had got that Red Bull drive from his dad being buddies with Baumschlager but maybe I was wrong.

he has not yet...at least not officially. baumschlager has always seen some talent in him, thats why he convinced red bull to get him the money to drive.

[AndyRAC]

On another forum Andreas is rated as no quicker than Matt Wilson.......

[RS]

On another forum Andreas is rated as no quicker than Matt Wilson.......

lol. I am fairly confident that Matty would not have finished 4th on an IRC event this season.

[pettersolberg29]

On another forum Andreas is rated as no quicker than Matt Wilson.......

What crazy forum is that?? ;)

In all seriousness, that may be the case at the moment - it's impossible to judge their respective pace as they haven't been in the same machinery. The only recent comparison was at Rally GB last year where Andreas finished 6:30 behind Wilson in an S2000 (his Fabia debut). But to be honest I don't know what to make of that!!

[wwbroe]

I think 4th would be asked to much for Matt, i guess he would be fighting with Gardemeister or Sandell. Real pitty for Andreas, he seemed to be well on his way to first victory in IRC, but flowers are only given at the podium. Wonder if Neuville will try to attack Kopecky on this last stage.

[Hartusvuori]

Well, i guess that tree was not put there overnight, so it was laying there also in recce.

Gardemeister commented also before the rally for MTV3.fi that some of the logs and tyres were placed there by organizer for anti-cutting, and that during the recce they were only marked on the roadbook, not placed yet. That seems odd.

And really a shame for Andreas. I'd like to see him succeed for once.

[Mirek]

Matt drove Scotland in Fiesta S2000 as zero. Of course he was just a zero but his times were possible to be measure in live TV stages and usually they were around times of Alister McRae with Proton.

[focus206]

I think last stage is on

[wwbroe]

Jan is trough and regarding his average speed i think he id well enough to take victory.

[pettersolberg29]

Ooooh Jan wins by 0.8s!!

[wwbroe]

What the ****, he is winning with 0.8 sec difference, what a trime by Neuville.

[Mirek]

Wow, Belgians must start to hate Kopecký cause second time in a row he won by one second from Belgian :D Great effort by Thierry anyway!

[dimviii]

Nice attack from Thierry!
How is the drivers points now?

[Mirek]

Kopecký 120
Loix 103
Hänninen 98
Neuville 78
Bouffier 73

[focus206]

what a time by Neuville! Almost 8 sec faster than Kopecky, but it's still not enough... it would have been shocking for Kopecky if Neuville would have won :D
Anyway, congratulations to Jan :)

[RS]

Ouch, that was close Jan!

Anyway, very good drive by Kopecky again. I just wish he could run at his "maximum speed" more often.

If he wants to win the title I guess he will need to win in Sanremo too.

[dimviii]

Kopecký 120
Loix 103
Hänninen 98
Neuville 78
Bouffier 73

Thanks Mirek.
Juho have hopes for championship? Think that he has less rallies than Kopecky and Loix?

[Mirek]

I heard that Juho will not start in Sanremo unless Jan spoils things here in Hungary. That didn't happen so it seems it's back to original pre-season plans.

[Salist]

Congratulation Jan and Petr!

[mousti]

You can restart stage normally if the delay is less than 15 minutes. The only one on stage before it was stopped was Kopecký and he finished rather normally (reasonably faster than in first run).
In Belgium it's 20 minutes and then even then the crew has to decide if they want a zero car over the stage or not. Mostly they just start again, on Tielt this year though Chevaillier asked for a zero car couldn't happen so SS cancelled.

Mmm so Jan finally found his strive to win back and could finish the deal and win the championship, very interesting.

[Salist]

Finish ceremonial live:
DuEn RALLY oldala (http://www.duen.hu/)

[Mirek]

Complete IRC points after Mecsek: Autosport : Intercontinental Rally Challenge (http://www.autosport.cz/souteze/bodovani.php?id=54&sk=204)

Jezdci = Drivers
Značky = Manufacturers
PC = Production Cup
RZ = Stage wins

[Wim_Impreza]

Wow, Belgians must start to hate Kopecký cause second time in a row he won by one second from Belgian :D Great effort by Thierry anyway!

Lol, no I find it very good that Kopecký is winning twice in a row. He is my favourite driver. :)

[Mirek]

MP3 interviews from finish including Mikkelsen about his crash: Autosport : IRC - Mecsek Rallye (IRC) (http://www.autosport.cz/zavody/audio.php?id=909&kat=248)

[urabus-denoS2000]

3 days of fantastic rallying have finished :) On SS 2 where I was standing 5 cars crashed in the same place ( Clio R3 of László Hozmann even caught fire ) , you will see it in a video . The rest of the places I picked really fast parts . Neuville , Mikkelsen and Kopecky were flat out everywhere so I wasn't surprised when I saw the results :) I just wished Neuville won , he is a VERY flamboyant and spectacular driver . However , it seems some drivers aren't as thrilled with the rally as I am . In service , Kopecky said he's glad the rally is over , because it is ridiculously fast and very dangerous . On the other hand , Neuville loved it . Very different aspects . Looking forward to 2012 IRC Mecsek :)

[Mirek]

Biiiig moment of Neuville: 2011 09 11 IRC Rally Mecsek - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDUncZHH6Og)

[focus206]

Biiiig moment of Neuville: 2011 09 11 IRC Rally Mecsek - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDUncZHH6Og)

2nd BIG moment in a row for Neuville after the one in Barum Rally :D

[RS]

Neuville , Mikkelsen and Kopecky were flat out everywhere so I wasn't surprised when I saw the results :) I just wished Neuville won , he is a VERY flamboyant and spectacular driver .

I just watched the final stages on Eurosport and you could see Neuville was pushing very hard towards the end. I think he is one of those drivers who pushes the car that bit further (like Meeke and Hanninen too)

[Jafry]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2011/927/927_canon_mecsek_rally_2011_2d6c671126.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2011/927/927_canon_mecsek_rally_2011_edafb69129.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2011/927/927_canon_mecsek_rally_2011_4f2ad85581.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2011/927/927_canon_mecsek_rally_2011_b02c9ba671.jpg

Photos from Canon Mecsek Rally HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=927&fseason=2011)

[Ciko]

turans off from another view: Turán - Zsiros crash 2011 IRC Mecsek rally Hungary - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzAfJ693j1o)
And another:
Turán crash on Mecsek rally HQ - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7U7RYcX0WA)

[rallyeati]

Gardemeister mistake (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrzE2_Usuvk)

[Mirek]

Despite a bit worse technical quality these two videos are full of crazy action:

Leg 1: IRC 45.Canon Mecsek Rally Hungary 2011.day 1. pure sound - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa1uEClhZd8&feature=channel_video_title)
Leg 2: IRC 45.Canon Mecsek Rally 2011.Hungary day 2.pure sound - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvLSdhSvDas)

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2011/irc/mecsek/sa_a_271_mikkelsen_2.jpg

[dimviii]

this photo of Mikkelsen is unreal!!! Kudos to Peter Sagner!!

[Luis Pacheco]

An excellent alternative to Eurosport heli. :)
eWRC.cz - po všech stránkách rally… (http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/image_browse.php?id=70369)

[Fri]

HD video:

: : RallySport.hu - IRC Canon Mecsek Rally HD videó : : (http://www.rallysport.hu/images/2011/video/055-rshu_mecsek_rally_asa.htm)

[PLuto]

Video of Lubos Lahola from Mecsek - Autosport (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=12753)

[mousti]

What the hell was wrong with that idiot at the end of the video?

[OldF]

What the hell was wrong with that idiot at the end of the video?

I’ve could have understand his behaviour if the next car arriving would have been a Red Bull Skoda but then he should have at least used a read cloth. ;)

[OldF]

HD video:

: : RallySport.hu - IRC Canon Mecsek Rally HD videó : : (http://www.rallysport.hu/images/2011/video/055-rshu_mecsek_rally_asa.htm)

I think Ken Block have would liked the stage that begins at 1:30.
One difficult turn with different styles for surviving.
Lada is escaping the Mitsu. Or could the Mitsu have reached the Lada.

[urabus-denoS2000]

Any onboards ?

[Ciko]

Nice video: Mecek IRC pingvin - YouTube (http://youtu.be/BU4C4ntEW6g)