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AP-Racing
9th February 2011, 08:14
I know this topic has already top in some forums, but I want to collect more or less complete information.
Now I have information or photos about Prost, Jarrier, Warwick, Brundle, Blundell, Kimi and Robert (sure), Sarrazin, Tambay, Caffi, Ickx, Salo, Lehto, Hakkinen, Kovalainen, Rosberg, Chaves and Reutemann.

Interesting find something more.
I hear about zero car with Jean Alesi on Rally Monte Carlo, but can't find some pics

I hope this topic will be interesting and we can find something more

Mark
9th February 2011, 09:18
Jim Clark did the 1966 RAC Rally.

Josti
9th February 2011, 09:19
Ricardo Zunino. He did Argentina's WRC event in '81.

Jim Clark started out as a rally driver and did the RAC Rally. Derek Bell also drove the RAC.

Marc Surer. Of course had to end his F1 career because of a rally accident (famous footage of RS200 skidding of the road and bursting into flames on impact).

Senna tested several rally cars (including a Sierra and 6R4) for an article in '86. I don't think he ever competitively drove one.

http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/510700/quienes3.jpg

BDunnell
9th February 2011, 09:48
As Mark said, Jim Clark competed on the 1966 RAC, and set a number of fastest stage times. His co-driver Brian Melia has said that after they retired (following a perhaps inevitable accident), Clark insisted on going to spectate on some stages. Melia further commented that Clark was surely 'a potential rally champion'. Also competing on that event was Graham Hill in a works Mini Cooper S, co-driven by broadcaster Maxwell Boyd — they didn't finish either.

Stirling Moss' rallying exploits are worth mentioning too. His second place overall in the 1952 Monte Carlo Rally, driving a Sunbeam Talbot 90 and finishing only just behind Sidney Allard's Allard, was a fine achievement, not only considering the machinery he had at his disposal but also the fact that it was Stirling's first attempt at the event.

And how could we forget Vic Elford in this context? Let's not forget that in 1968 he won the Monte outright in a Porsche 911; then, just months later, his first ever F1 race resulted in fourth place at the French GP in the awful Cooper-BRM. And in between times, he had won the Daytona 24 Hours and the Targa Florio. Before being a works rally driver — and an outstanding one of his era — for Ford and then Porsche, he had started off as a co-driver. Rallying took a back seat as his racing career took off, but in 1982 he made a brief comeback on the Safari, driving (as I recall) a Subaru. His was a remarkable career, the like of which we surely will never see again, more's the pity. A true legend.

As for some of the others mentioned here, Derek Bell drove a works Opel Kadett GSi on the RAC in 1987 and '88, most famously stalling in the ford at the televised Weston Park stage on the former occasion. Marc Surer's RS200 accident took the life of his co-driver. Derek Warwick I thought performed very well on the 1990 RAC in the works Subaru Legacy, being up in 12th place when he retired and on occasion setting stage times faster than those of people like Alex Fiorio and Robert Droogmans, both of whom ended up finishing in the top 10.

ArrowsFA1
9th February 2011, 12:34
Not quite rallying...but sort of...

The Giro d'italia was an event run on a mixture of circuit & rally stages. Riccardo Patrese, Gilles Villeneuve, and Jody Scheckter took part in the late 1970's with Riccardo winning twice :D 1978 (http://riccardopatrese.net/weblog/?page_id=380), 1979 (http://riccardopatrese.net/weblog/?page_id=382), 1980 (http://riccardopatrese.net/weblog/?page_id=384)

AP-Racing
9th February 2011, 12:41
I know what Patrick Tambay was 19th on Monte Carlo Rally in 1973

http://rallyemontecarlo.unblog.fr/files/2010/05/tambaymc73.jpg

and Patrick Deppaillier start in some races on Renault 12 and Stratos

http://s1.ipicture.ru/uploads/20110113/s7EShNCZ.jpg

AP-Racing
9th February 2011, 12:43
Marc Surer's RS200 accident took the life of his co-driver. Derek Warwick I thought performed very well on the 1990 RAC in the works Subaru Legacy, being up in 12th place when he retired and on occasion setting stage times faster than those of people like Alex Fiorio and Robert Droogmans, both of whom ended up finishing in the top 10.

Oh....that interesting.

AP-Racing
9th February 2011, 12:44
Tomorrow i'm post there full list F1 drivers which i find

hsmed
9th February 2011, 13:33
Perhaps you are only interested in drivers participating in World Championship rallies, but if you also want to include minor events, Jan Magnussen has participated in a small Danish rally once.

AP-Racing
9th February 2011, 13:51
Perhaps you are only interested in drivers participating in World Championship rallies, but if you also want to include minor events, Jan Magnussen has participated in a small Danish rally once.

minor events too.
I want make archieve with results F1 drivers in rallying with stats and pics

I know what Jan Lammers has participated in Tulip Rally

wedge
9th February 2011, 14:11
Senna tested several rally cars (including a Sierra and 6R4) for an article in '86. I don't think he ever competitively drove one.

http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/510700/quienes3.jpg

It was for a magazine called Cars and Car Conversions (you can see the sticker on the door). The editor but now sadly deceased Russel Bulgin organised the test who had befriended Senna years previously. CCC was an uber-specialist car mag and in hindsight become quite a coup.

No Senna never competed competitively and like Indycar racing - sad not to for him to perform the feat.

FAL
9th February 2011, 14:24
The list would be virtually endless if you go back further than the experience of the younger posters. Nearly all F1 drivers before a certain date will have competed in rallies. It's the way it was, when there was not so much motorsport on offer.

ZequeArgentina
9th February 2011, 14:30
Do not forget Carlos Reutemann!!
he finisedthird in both opportunities hetook part of a Rally:
-1981 Rally of SouthAmerica (Argentina and Brasil) Fiat 131
- 1985 Rally of Argentina Pegeot 205 T16

He also ran as 0 car with a Delta Integrale back in the 80´s I do nto remeber well)

He may have one of the best records for a F1driver in Rally.

BDunnell
9th February 2011, 15:06
And what does one class as a rally? The Carrera Panamericana, for example, might qualify as such in the eyes of some.

AP-Racing
9th February 2011, 15:11
Do not forget Carlos Reutemann!!
He also ran as 0 car with a Delta Integrale back in the 80´s I do nto remeber well)


Thanks about Brasil and Zero car. You don't rememb, where he starting on Delta

Maybe someone have photo's Jean Alesi? I know he start in Monte or San Remo 90 how "0" car and on Subaru in Monza Rally

PS.
Alex Zanardi was participiant Rally Monza twice. On Delta and Impreza, but i don't have Delta's pics

AP-Racing
9th February 2011, 15:15
For example, Alain Prost on Rally du Var'82

http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/181159/1982_prost_r1135.jpg

Josti
9th February 2011, 15:20
The list would be virtually endless if you go back further than the experience of the younger posters. Nearly all F1 drivers before a certain date will have competed in rallies. It's the way it was, when there was not so much motorsport on offer.

I suppose the 1950's generation especially, which also included former Grand Prix drivers.

Louis Chiron for example, won the 1954 Monte Carlo Rally.

OldF
9th February 2011, 17:07
Leo Kinnunen participated in six F1 races but started only in one race. Mostly he drove sportscars.

He won the Artic Lapland rally in 1972 and 1979 with a Porsche 911.

ShiftingGears
10th February 2011, 10:59
There's a 'Tour De France Automobile' event which I've stumbled upon, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tour_de_France_Automobile

If this is classed as a rally then de Portago, Gendebien, Bianchi, Mairesse, Larrousse and Beltoise could be considered in this list. Lucien Bianchi apparently also competed in the 1951 Alpine Rally, whatever that was.

MrJan
10th February 2011, 11:04
Do you count something like the Mille Miglia?

Tumbo
10th February 2011, 12:39
Jean Alesi competed in the Rally Monza in 99 in a subaru wrc

SGWilko
10th February 2011, 12:46
Jean Alesi competed in the Rally Monza in 99 in a subaru wrc

Did he run out of fuel? ;)

BDunnell
10th February 2011, 18:55
Do you count something like the Mille Miglia?

Absolutely not. It has none of the essential defining characteristics of a rally.

hsmed
10th February 2011, 20:20
Jan Magnussen was driving the '00' car at a rally in Denmark the 10th of June 2000. He crashed before the finish. This was exactly one week before he participated in LeMans 24h 2000.

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AP-Racing
16th February 2011, 15:33
Jan Magnussen was driving the '00' car at a rally in Denmark the 10th of June 2000. He crashed before the finish. This was exactly one week before he participated in LeMans 24h 2000.

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Wow...Thanks for photo and for info's

D-Type
18th February 2011, 16:30
And what does one class as a rally? The Carrera Panamericana, for example, might qualify as such in the eyes of some.
I don't see why. The Carreara was an out and out race with the fastest car winning.

The only thing the Carrera had in common with a rally is that it was run in daily stages.

The essential difference between a rally and a race is that a rally pits competitors against a bogey time. Hit the time and you don't get penalised. Take longer and you do. Arrive early and in a modern rally you don't get penalised so one car can cover a stage faster than another and they both get zero penalties. At one time in some rallies you could get penalised for arriving early.

Don Capps
18th February 2011, 18:22
There's a 'Tour De France Automobile' event which I've stumbled upon...

If this is classed as a rally then de Portago, Gendebien, Bianchi, Mairesse, Larrousse and Beltoise could be considered in this list. Lucien Bianchi apparently also competed in the 1951 Alpine Rally, whatever that was.

The Tour de France was -- at least for a while -- essentially a series of races strung together by something resembling a rally. From time to time they actually had some sort of meaning, but then faded from the scene.

Duncan's comment is correct about the Carrera events -- they were flat-out races run in stages.

Has Stirling Moss surfaced yet? Keep in mind his performances in the Alpine Rally.

BDunnell
19th February 2011, 00:44
Has Stirling Moss surfaced yet? Keep in mind his performances in the Alpine Rally.

Yes, if you look back, I mentioned him in connection with his 1952 Monte performance.

Don Capps
19th February 2011, 01:54
Yes, if you look back, I mentioned him in connection with his 1952 Monte performance.

My humble apologies, I simply managed to miss that reference to Moss -- even though it led off a sentence, sigh....

AP-Racing
22nd February 2011, 05:04
Keke Rosberg

1996: Arctic Rallye in Finland with old F Group Ford Escort 2000 RS. Codriver Kaj Hakkinen. Retired.
1999: Rallye Nordic with Toyota Starlet of national Group F. Codriver Kaj Hakkinen. Seventh in group F after JJ. Lehto.
2000: Rallye Nordic in F class with Toyota Starlet. Codriver Kaj Hakkinen. Runner up in group.
2002: Arctic Lapland Rally with Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution 5 Group N car. Codriver Kaj Hakkinen. 49.overall.
2003: Arctic Lapland Rally with Mitsubishi N-group car. Codriver Kaj Hakkinen.
2004: Arctic Lapland Rally with Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution 7 N-group car of Day Dream Team. Codriver Kaj Hakkinen. 16. overall.