Rally Islas Canarias El Corte Inglés 2011

[Sergio-Rallymax]

Inaugurating the thread, it seems that the rally will be until 2013 in the Intercontinental Rally Challenge calendar.
It is said that these drivers are confirmed:

1.- Jan Kopecky - Skoda S2000
2.- Andreas Mikkelsen - Skoda S2000
3.- Guy Wilks - 207 S2000
4.- Thierry Neuville - 207 S2000
5.- Bruno Magalhaes - 207 S2000
6.- Freddy Loix - Skoda S2000
7.- PG Andersson - Proton S2000
8.- - Proton S2000
9.- Bryan Bouffier - 207 S2000
10.- Alberto Hevia - Skoda S2000
11.- David Pérez - 207 S2000
12.- Sergio Vallejo - GT or S2000
13.- Xevi Pons - Fiesta S2000
14.- Miguel Fuster - Porsche 911 GT3
15.- Alfonso Viera - Porsche 911 GT3 ex-Vallejo
Enrique García-Ojeda probably with a S2000

Video of last year:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyIDM-_t4MQ

[106 sport]

Hi, In Gran Canaria we expect about 12-15 S2000 this year...

I hope to enjoy about 4 S2000 coming from Spain championship and about 10 S2000 from other countries.


Regards from Gran Canaria.

[EavesFan09]

Inaugurating the thread, it seems that the rally will be until 2013 in the Intercontinental Rally Challenge calendar.
It is said that these drivers are confirmed:

1.- Jan Kopecky - Skoda S2000
2.- Andreas Mikkelsen - Skoda S2000
3.- Guy Wilks - 207 S2000
4.- Thierry Neuville - 207 S2000
5.- Bruno Magalhaes - 207 S2000
6.- Freddy Loix - Skoda S2000
7.- PG Andersson - Proton S2000
8.- - Proton S2000
9.- Bryan Bouffier - 207 S2000
10.- Alberto Hevia - Skoda S2000
11.- David Pérez - 207 S2000
12.- Sergio Vallejo - GT or S2000
13.- Xevi Pons - Fiesta S2000
14.- Miguel Fuster - Porsche 911 GT3
15.- Alfonso Viera - Porsche 911 GT3 ex-Vallejo
Enrique García-Ojeda probably with a S2000

Video of last year:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyIDM-_t4MQ

Are the guys in bold season long entries? And how many of other S2000 drivers like Giandomenico Basso wil be running?

[mousti]

Are the guys in bold season long entries? And how many of other S2000 drivers like Giandomenico Basso wil be running?
Yep all of them doing around 7 events. Drivers like Basso it's all about the money not predictable what they going to do :)

[Tom206wrc]

Nice to see Ojeda back in S2000 :cool:

[wwbroe]

Does anybody have some maps of last year's edition of this rally? It would be great help for me to have some Google Earth file or another sort of map. Will this year's edition use same stages as last year? Any information would be highly appreciated. :)

[106 sport]

It seem that is not going to be the same stages this year.

There is a rumour about the stages of 2011:

Friday

1-Gran Karting Club
2-Corralillos-Las Vallas-Santa Lucía-Temisas
3-La Pasadilla-El Moreno-Las Breñas

4-Gran Karting Club
5-Corralillos-Las Vallas-Santa Lucía-Temisas
6-La Pasadilla-El Moreno-Las Breñas

7-Cueva Corcho-Artenara (Night)
8-Tejeda-Ayacata-Roque Nublo-Cueva Grande (Night)

Saturday

9-Cueva Grande-Roque Nublo-Ayacata-Tejeda
10-Artenara-Pinos de Gáldar-Cueva Corcho

11-Cueva Grande-Roque Nublo-Ayacata-Tejeda
12-Artenara-Pinos de Gáldar-Cueva Corcho

Besides perhaps there will be night stages at Friday.

The Rally recovers the famous stage Gran Karting Club (2 Km). There not will be stages at the North of the Island like last year...


Regards.

[Sergio-Rallymax]

This is the map of these stages

http://www.motor2000.net/contenidos/noticias/1365/IslasCanarias2011.pdf

It is not confirmed yet

[wwbroe]

Thank you guys for the quick responce, can you keep me informed about evolution considering the stages, if someone got any start- and finish-coordinates that would be even better. What about rally headquarters, will it be in Las Palmas? Thanks in advance.

[Luis Pacheco]

The Rally recovers the famous stage Gran Karting Club (2 Km).


With the big jump at the end?

I´m planning to go this year to the rallye!

[106 sport]

With the big jump at the end?

I´m planning to go this year to the rallye!


I dont know yet.


Is there any posibility to see Victor Sa in Gran Canaria?


Regards.

[106 sport]

anyone knows if there are any posibility to see Luca Betti in Gran Canaria. Thanks in advance.

[106 sport]

Thank you guys for the quick responce, can you keep me informed about evolution considering the stages, if someone got any start- and finish-coordinates that would be even better. What about rally headquarters, will it be in Las Palmas? Thanks in advance.

Yes, the headquarters will be in Las Palmas de Gran Canaria, the Gran Canaria's capital. You can get the programme inside the web:

http://www.rallyislascanarias.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=86


Regards.

[Luis Pacheco]

Is there any posibility to see Victor Sa in Gran Canaria?


You must ask the guys from Madeira.

[106 sport]

Hi, it had been released the special stages with Google Earth

http://www.atodomotor.com/noticia/757/Tramos-Virtuales-del-Rally-Islas-Canarias-IRC-2011.html


Regards.

[wwbroe]

Thank you very much for this info, it is great help for me. ;) Whenever we meet in Canay Islands or somewhere else, i will buy you a beer. :D

[pucky54]

Single Fuel only for national championship participants or also for IRC starters?

[Sergio-Rallymax]

Single Fuel only for national championship participants or also for IRC starters?

Only for national championship, i think.

[pucky54]

anyone who KNOWS? ;)

[PLuto]

Only for national championship. Similar it was last year on ERC event in Asturias.

[pucky54]

Only for national championship. Similar it was last year on ERC event in Asturias.

thx Pluto

[alleskids]

Rally Islas Canarias El Corte Ingles will feature night stages when it hosts the second round of the Intercontinental Rally Challenge in April.

The event, which is based on the Spanish island of Gran Canaria, will take place from 14-16 April. To accommodate the night-time runs, organisers have made several changes to the event itinerary with day one's action getting underway on Friday at 13:00hrs local time and not finishing until the early hours of Saturday morning on April 16.

Crews and their teams will then get a short rest before the rally continues at 07:30hrs on Saturday. The finish is scheduled for 14:30hrs later that day.

In total the rally will feature 12 special stages with a competitive distance of 190.59 kilometres.

The bulk of the stages on Friday 15 April will focus on the south of the island initially before crews head to the north of the island for the two night stages, Valleseco and Tejeda, which start at 22:16hrs and 22:49hrs respectively.

Saturday's stages are the same as those used on Friday night, albeit run in the reverse direction.

[Sergio-Rallymax]

More drivers confirmed

1.- Jan Kopecky - Skoda S2000
2.- Andreas Mikkelsen - Skoda S2000
3.- Guy Wilks - 207 S2000
4.- Thierry Neuville - 207 S2000
5.- Bruno Magalhaes - 207 S2000
6.- Freddy Loix - Skoda S2000
7.- PG Andersson - Proton S2000
8.- - Proton S2000
9.- Bryan Bouffier - 207 S2000
10.- Alberto Hevia - Skoda S2000
11.- David Pérez - 207 S2000
12.- Sergio Vallejo - GT or S2000
13.- Xevi Pons - Fiesta S2000
14.- Miguel Fuster - Porsche 911 GT3
15.- Alfonso Viera (Canarias) - Porsche 911 GT3 ex-Vallejo
16.- Umberto Scandola - Fiesta S2000
17.- Max Settembrini - 207 S2000
18.- Jonathan Pérez - 207 S2000
19.- Joan Vinyes - Swift S1600
20.- Gorka Antxustegi - Swift S1600
21.- Rubén Gracia - EVO X or Twingo R2
22.- Ángel Marrero (Canarias) - Civic R3
23.- José Luis Barrios (Canarias) - Impreza
24.- Yeray Lemes (Canarias) - Likely Fiesta R2
25.- Raúl Quesada (Canarias) - Twingo R2
26.- Eduardo Domínguez (Canarias) - EVO X
27.- Eugenio Mantecón - EVO X N+

[106 sport]

It seems that Haninnen is going to be in Gran Canaria :D



Everyone wants to be in Rally Islas Canarias "El Corte Inglés " http://www.rallyislascanarias.com/templates/spanish_red/images/pdf_button.png (http://www.rallyislascanarias.com/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=128) http://www.rallyislascanarias.com/templates/spanish_red/images/printButton.png (http://www.rallyislascanarias.com/index2.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=128&pop=1&page=0&Itemid=1) http://www.rallyislascanarias.com/templates/spanish_red/images/emailButton.png (http://www.rallyislascanarias.com/index2.php?option=com_content&task=emailform&id=128&itemid=1) An inscription on a test class that will make history.

http://www.rallyislascanarias.com/images/noticias/11noticia05.jpgThe Organizing Committee of the 35 th edition of the Canary Islands Rally El Corte Ingles "is pleased to announce the real possibility of having the best recording of the history of the event, with up to 18 vehicles in the Super 2000 category.

At this time, and are officially registered very important teams and drivers, Skoda Motorsport, who returns with Kopecky and most importantly with the pilot who carried out the World Rally Championship with Czech brand itself, Juha Hanninen. Skoda UK to the Norwegian driver Andreas Mikkelsen. Skoda Belgium Freddy Loix. Kronos Team with Guy Wilks and Thierry Neuville. And with Bruno Magalhaes Peugeot Portugal.
But that is not the thing, along with foreign teams and drivers have been in contact with the organization but have not yet formalized its entry, the list keeps growing. As the PH Sport team, representing Peugeot France, with the current leader of the IRC and Monte Carlo Rally winner, Bryan Bouffier. O Proton Motorsport team, with the Swedish driver PG Andersson and another rider to be named. The Finnish driver Toni Gardemeister, who still has not decided to which car will come to the Canaries. And several Italian riders, as Riccardo Scandola (Ford Fiesta Super 2000) and Massimiliano Settembrini (Peugeot 207 Super 2000)

We can not forget the representation will come from mainland Spain, as the team of Ford Spain, with its driver Xevi Pons, current world champion in the category of SWRC. The reigning Rally of Spain, Alberto Hevia with his Skoda Fabia Super 2000. The Iberian Suzuki Motor Sport Antxustegi Joan Vinyes and Gorka. Miguel Fuster with his Porsche 911. David Perez with a Peugeot 207 Super 2000. And the real possibility of the presence of Enrique Garcia Ojeda could be tested with a Super 2000 teaming up with another pilot in the Canaries. In addition to the Renault Twingo Cup R2 is working to be present also in the 35 º Rally Islas Canarias "El Corte Ingles ".

[wwbroe]

Hello guys from Canaria, does anyone of you know if there is some software of national geografic institute where you can import gpx-files to make maps? Or are there any decent maps available for pc? Thanks in advance for your answers.

[106 sport]

Hello guys from Canaria, does anyone of you know if there is some software of national geografic institute where you can import gpx-files to make maps? Or are there any decent maps available for pc? Thanks in advance for your answers.

perhaps this one could to help you... http://www.idecan.grafcan.es/idecan/en.html


Regards form Gran Canaria.

[Sergio-Rallymax]

Karting Club SS

http://www.motoradiario.com/images/stories/trazadokartingic2011.jpg

More info in spanish http://www.motoradiario.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=332 :s e-renueva-el-trazado-del-karting&catid=21:internacional&Itemid=32

[wwbroe]

perhaps this one could to help you... http://www.idecan.grafcan.es/idecan/en.html


Regards form Gran Canaria.


Thanks 106 Sport, i will look into it, i have send them e-mail allready for access. ;)

[EavesFan09]

More drivers confirmed

1.- Jan Kopecky - Skoda S2000
2.- Andreas Mikkelsen - Skoda S2000
3.- Guy Wilks - 207 S2000
4.- Thierry Neuville - 207 S2000
5.- Bruno Magalhaes - 207 S2000
6.- Freddy Loix - Skoda S2000
7.- PG Andersson - Proton S2000
8.- - Proton S2000
9.- Bryan Bouffier - 207 S2000
10.- Alberto Hevia - Skoda S2000
11.- David Pérez - 207 S2000
12.- Sergio Vallejo - GT or S2000
13.- Xevi Pons - Fiesta S2000
14.- Miguel Fuster - Porsche 911 GT3
15.- Alfonso Viera (Canarias) - Porsche 911 GT3 ex-Vallejo
16.- Umberto Scandola - Fiesta S2000
17.- Max Settembrini - 207 S2000
18.- Jonathan Pérez - 207 S2000
19.- Joan Vinyes - Swift S1600
20.- Gorka Antxustegi - Swift S1600
21.- Rubén Gracia - EVO X or Twingo R2
22.- Ángel Marrero (Canarias) - Civic R3
23.- José Luis Barrios (Canarias) - Impreza
24.- Yeray Lemes (Canarias) - Likely Fiesta R2
25.- Raúl Quesada (Canarias) - Twingo R2
26.- Eduardo Domínguez (Canarias) - EVO X
27.- Eugenio Mantecón - EVO X N+

I am just really interested only in the S2000 drivers. So, with that in mind do we know any more about the S2000 drivers in bold except for Sembertini? I know what he's doing.

[Mirek]

10.- Alberto Hevia - Skoda S2000
11.- David Pérez - 207 S2000
12.- Sergio Vallejo - GT or S2000
13.- Xevi Pons - Fiesta S2000
18.- Jonathan Pérez - 207 S2000

These guys are doing only Spanish championship this year if You ask for that. Otherwise Pons is world champion of SWRC 2010 and well known name from past WRC seasons, Hevia is Spanish champion 2004 and 2010, Vallejo is Spanish champion 2009.


16.- Umberto Scandola - Fiesta S2000

Scandola is doing limited IRC program of some five events I think. He is former Abarth test driver who drove several IRC events in previous seasons. Always quite fast but very accident prone.

[EavesFan09]

Any news on whether or not Hanninen, Voullioz, Bryneldsen, Sarrazin, Delecour, Henning Solberg and Maurin (M-Sport) and Atkinson and Cave (Proton) will be doing the Carary Islands?

[Mirek]

Maybe Hänninen and Atkinson. Others not.

[PLuto]

Juho will be there, second driver for Proton isnt sure yet. Henning and Brynildsen dont plan start in IRC, Vouilloz and Delecour maybe Corse.

[Sergio-Rallymax]

Bouffier will run in Gran Canaria

http://www.bryanbouffier.com/

[Sergio-Rallymax]

The stages of the Rally of Canaries at this time

http://img862.imageshack.us/img862/4680/ss71012.jpg
SS 7-10-12

http://comunidad.laprovincia.es/galeria-multimedia/sociedad/Nieve-cumbre-grancanaria--Fotos-lectores/23944/3.html
http://comunidad.laprovincia.es/galeria-multimedia/sociedad/Nieve-cumbre-grancanaria--Fotos-lectores/23944/2.html
http://comunidad.laprovincia.es/galeria-multimedia/sociedad/Nieve-cumbre-grancanaria--Fotos-lectores/23944/4.html
SS 8-9-11

I wish there was snow on the date of the rally

[pucky54]

There is snow at the moment?

[Sergio-Rallymax]

Yes It's snowing now from 1400 meters to the highest point (1949) that has the island.

[pucky54]

OMG. Interesting to see that there is snow in the higher regions when there are 15-20°C in Las Palmas :)

[Sergio-Rallymax]

Gran Canaria is an island with its own microclimate. It is not unusual to spend half an hour in a dense fog in the central mountains to 30 degrees Celsius in the southern beaches of the island.
Contrary to popular belief, although it is usually an island of sunshine and beaches, from December to May is not unusual to do a little cold in the center-north.
The rally has been run many times under heavy rain (never on snow).

[Sergio-Rallymax]

Have changed the links to the photos

http://comunidad.laprovincia.es/servicios/galeriasMultimedia/media/23944/imagenes/1300109848659_189807_189535937750049_1000008093213 07_390722_2121038_n.jpg
http://comunidad.laprovincia.es/servicios/galeriasMultimedia/media/23944/imagenes/1300105400752_190475_189537047749938_1000008093213 07_390755_7198638_n.jpg
http://comunidad.laprovincia.es/servicios/galeriasMultimedia/media/23944/imagenes/1300105254732_199419_189536074416702_1000008093213 07_390726_3172641_n.jpg
SS 8-9-11

[RS]

Have changed the links to the photos

http://comunidad.laprovincia.es/servicios/galeriasMultimedia/media/23944/imagenes/1300109848659_189807_189535937750049_1000008093213 07_390722_2121038_n.jpg
http://comunidad.laprovincia.es/servicios/galeriasMultimedia/media/23944/imagenes/1300105400752_190475_189537047749938_1000008093213 07_390755_7198638_n.jpg
http://comunidad.laprovincia.es/servicios/galeriasMultimedia/media/23944/imagenes/1300105254732_199419_189536074416702_1000008093213 07_390726_3172641_n.jpg
SS 8-9-11

Wow, did I just click the Monte Carlo thread?

[stepunk]

Looks like Umberto Scandola changed his plans for this season and won't start in Canaria.

[106 sport]

Looks like Umberto Scandola changed his plans for this season and won't start in Canaria.

oh it is a pity, is it just confirmed?

[stepunk]

Not 100% sure but he declared that he should partecipate in all 8 rounds of Italian Championship plus 4 rounds in IRC (chosen among Corse, Ypres, Sanremo, Cyprus and Scotland)

Here's the news (in italian) http://www.motorinside.it/esclusivo-scandola-nel-cir-e-4-rally-dell%E2%80%99irc-con-la-fiesta-super2000

[106 sport]

Inside a Canarian's forum said that Gyula Hering (Civic R3), Alessandro Barchesi (Clio R3) and Harry Hunt (DS3 R3) will be in Rally Islas Canarias El Corte Ingles... :)


We still have 10 days to closing date for entries... Could we get new surprises??? :D

[Luis Pacheco]

Have changed the links to the photos

http://comunidad.laprovincia.es/servicios/galeriasMultimedia/media/23944/imagenes/1300109848659_189807_189535937750049_1000008093213 07_390722_2121038_n.jpg
http://comunidad.laprovincia.es/servicios/galeriasMultimedia/media/23944/imagenes/1300105400752_190475_189537047749938_1000008093213 07_390755_7198638_n.jpg
http://comunidad.laprovincia.es/servicios/galeriasMultimedia/media/23944/imagenes/1300105254732_199419_189536074416702_1000008093213 07_390726_3172641_n.jpg
SS 8-9-11

This is nothing compared with the snow on Madeira Island last week! :)

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/6813/p1300026iu6.jpg

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/2456/p1300031uz6.jpg

http://www.dnoticias.pt/sites/default/files/imagecache/body_640_slide/NEVE_NA_MADEIRA_15.JPG

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/6519/nevenamadeira6.jpg

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/7808/nevenamadeira11.jpg

The last picture shows a well known special stage from Madeira rally.

[PLuto]

Giando is sure with Proton, he will start from Canarias - http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=11936

[106 sport]

Giando is sure with Proton, he will start from Canarias - http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=11936


Good news ;)

Is it already official???

[mousti]

Good news ;)

Is it already official???If it's come from Pluto u can be almost 100% it's official :D

[wwbroe]

That is really great news, and i am sure the best possible choice for Proton. So, in three weeks time we will see Giandomenico back in action.

[106 sport]

If it's come from Pluto u can be almost 100% it's official :D

Of course.


Regards.

[mousti]

Juho Hanninen could be driving this too :)

[wwbroe]

What are the long term weather forecast for Canarias. Anybody knows how it will be in three weeks time. What is the weather like for the moment?

[Tom206wrc]

No news yet about what car Enrique Garcia Ojeda chose ??? :confused:

[Sergio-Rallymax]

What are the long term weather forecast for Canarias. Anybody knows how it will be in three weeks time. What is the weather like for the moment?

It is difficult to make predictions so early. Perhaps the weather sites that will bring sunshine and make a great 30 degrees, but the reality is that in the southern sections may be so, and in the north to be raining and thick fog. It is difficult to predict.

[Sergio-Rallymax]

No news yet about what car Enrique Garcia Ojeda chose ??? :confused:

The last thing that was said is that perhaps not running the rally.

[zoolander36]

The last thing that was said is that perhaps not running the rally.

This weekend he is going to race with a R2 Fiesta of Nupel team in Rally Vilajoiosa, spanish tarmac championship race. Currently he's trying to find money to rent a s2000 but it's been very difficult.

[Luis Pacheco]

El Corte Ingles 2001


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bt3bf2DPavo

From minute 9 we can see images of the kart circuit (Super Special stage).

[RS]

Skoda confirmed Kopecky-Hanninen-Loix-Mikkelsen for Canarias but no Hevia?: http://skoda.rallye-info.com/article.asp?sid=6&stid=9215

[zoolander36]

Skoda confirmed Kopecky-Hanninen-Loix-Mikkelsen for Canarias but no Hevia?: http://skoda.rallye-info.com/article.asp?sid=6&stid=9215

He was waiting for new evos for his Skoda and didn't run last weekend in Vilajoiosa for that reason but he is confirmed for Canarias.

[wwbroe]

Tomorrow, wednesday april 6th, the entrylist will normally be published, so i guess we will know then if Hevia will be there or not. But i expect him to be there, so that will be five Fabia's, all capable of fighting for the win. ;)

[Barreis]

With no cryin'..

[pucky54]

Tomorrow, wednesday april 6th, the entrylist will normally be published, so i guess we will know then if Hevia will be there or not. But i expect him to be there, so that will be five Fabia's, all capable of fighting for the win. ;)

Six, you forgot Gardemeister

[wwbroe]

You are right Pucky, i forgot to mention Gardemeister. It relmains to be seen if he can have a say in the fight for victory tough.

[RS]

You are right Pucky, i forgot to mention Gardemeister. It relmains to be seen if he can have a say in the fight for victory tough.

Under normal conditions I doubt Toni can win on tarmac this year, especially with Hankooks which are probably not as good as Michelin. He was quite a long way off the pace on Monte. Looking forward to seeing him though, he will be a nice addition to the championship.

[Tom206wrc]

What to expect from Basso :s
On another hand victory from a Proton last week-end in Malaysia(Atkinson), so...perhaps improvement of the Satria(at least regarding reliability) :rolleyes:

[PLuto]

Malaysian rally was on gravel...

[Barreis]

Will be interesting.

[Tom206wrc]

So...entrylist ??? :confused:

[pucky54]

Too bad Pons, Hevia and D. Perez choose to drive in the national rally only.

http://www.rallyislascanarias.com/documentos/LISTADEINSCRITOSFIAIRC2011.pdf

http://www.rallyislascanarias.com/documentos/LISTADEINSCRITOSREGIONAL2011.pdf

[Tom206wrc]

Great !!! Victor Senra on entrylist too(regional) with his fabulous 306 Maxi :bounce:

[pucky54]

Great !!! Victor Senra on entrylist too(regional) with his fabulous 306 Maxi :bounce:

He will not start

[zoolander36]

Too bad Pons, Hevia and D. Perez choose to drive in the national rally only.

http://www.rallyislascanarias.com/documentos/LISTADEINSCRITOSFIAIRC2011.pdf

http://www.rallyislascanarias.com/documentos/LISTADEINSCRITOSREGIONAL2011.pdf

Their cars are 50 kg lighter than IRC cars so they can only compete in national rally.

[PLuto]

They can choose to have normal weight and fight in IRC or have it 50 kg lighter and fight only for national rally. I must say I hate this spanish "help regulations" for a long time...

[pucky54]

...and in the end its always bad for the spectators who want to see how their "local" heroes are compared to the regular IRC guys

[PLuto]

Maybe Xevi Pons doesnt want to be beaten by IRC drivers?

[pucky54]

Thats for sure ;)

[Sergio-Rallymax]

Maybe Xevi Pons doesnt want to be beaten by IRC drivers?

Do you really think that Pons would have any chance against the IRC drivers?
Their struggle is a national championship, he should forget the IRC because they have nothing to do.

[Wim_Impreza]

They can choose to have normal weight and fight in IRC or have it 50 kg lighter and fight only for national rally. I must say I hate this spanish "help regulations" for a long time...

I agree. It is not logical for the spectators and I don't understand how the sponsors could be happy when they only compete in their national rally as there is an important international rally on the same roads.

One of the good things of the ERC and IRC is that the best local drivers can compete for a good result in their home rally, while this isn't the case anymore for years in the WRC due to the high costs and the stupid regulations there.

Pons isn't fast enough to compete for a good result in IRC. I still don't understand why Pons was SWRC champion last year. Hevia is (much) faster.

[mousti]

I agree. It is not logical for the spectators and I don't understand how the sponsors could be happy when they only compete in their national rally as there is an important international rally on the same roads.

One of the good things of the ERC and IRC is that the best local drivers can compete for a good result in their home rally, while this isn't the case anymore for years in the WRC due to the high costs and the stupid regulations there.

Pons isn't fast enough to compete for a good result in IRC. I still don't understand why Pons was SWRC champion last year. Hevia is (much) faster.
Fully agree with that, plus if somebody does that as local driver beating top IRC guys, it could give him maybe more oppertunities for his career. Xevi Pons is definately scared and his SWRC was a fluke sadly.

[PLuto]

SWRC and JWRC championships arent about to be fast, but about to be in finish on all events...

[PLuto]

Do you really think that Pons would have any chance against the IRC drivers?
Their struggle is a national championship, he should forget the IRC because they have nothing to do.

And becasue spanish drivers are thinking on same way as you, after Carlos Sainz and Dani Sordo there is no other successful driver on international field...

[Mirek]

Last week Freddy had an accident on hill-climb racing stage near Ústí nad Orlicí. No serious damage.
http://img.skoda-virt.cz/forum_upload/2011/03/31/7_1_100963__2011-03-31_19-16-20_59.jpg
http://img.skoda-virt.cz/forum_upload/2011/03/31/7_1_100963__2011-03-31_19-34-50_91.jpg
http://img.skoda-virt.cz/forum_upload/2011/03/31/7_1_100963__2011-03-31_19-19-45_80.jpg

[dimviii]

was a test Mirek,or a hill climb race?

[wwbroe]

It was on a testtrack in Czech republic while he was testing the car. No big damage, they continued next day. ;)

[Mirek]

was a test Mirek,or a hill climb race?

Test but on hill climb track as wwbroe wrote ;)

[pucky54]

Will the Skodas sport the new logo next week?

I just saw the trucks carrying the new logo but "old" lettering

[mousti]

http://www.rallyislascanarias.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=121

Startlist for the rally ! No Hevia and only one local with a S2000..

[pucky54]

http://www.rallyislascanarias.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=121

Startlist for the rally ! No Hevia and only one local with a S2000..


Too bad Pons, Hevia and D. Perez choose to drive in the national rally only.

http://www.rallyislascanarias.com/documentos/LISTADEINSCRITOSFIAIRC2011.pdf

http://www.rallyislascanarias.com/documentos/LISTADEINSCRITOSREGIONAL2011.pdf

You just had to look on page 4.
Hevia will take part!

[PLuto]

Hevia will start, but only in national class.

[mousti]

Don't care about that class, Hevia had a chance to get top 5 for sure. But not too bad, better for Neuville and Loix :D

[Sergio-Rallymax]

And becasue spanish drivers are thinking on same way as you, after Carlos Sainz and Dani Sordo there is no other successful driver on international field...

No money, this is the problem. In Spain, private companies invest little in racing (except F1) for television that have little impact, and after brands such as Peugeot, Citroën ... Not to mention, is to mourn. If Alberto had a budget to do test's as the best drivers in the IRC no doubt he could fight them, then there is the issue of Xevi Pons, and we all saw how he won it last year the SWRC, never being faster. In my opinion, not be competitive against the best drivers in the IRC.

[PLuto]

Yes, it is always about money. But look at your championship - spanish teams are investing into Supercup GT Cars, into improving N4 cars into N4+, making lower weight of S2000 - everything costs money and should be used only on home events. It is about money, but also about good will...

[wwbroe]

What are the weatherpredictions for the end of the week and the weekend? Just to know what kind of clothes i should take with me. :D

[bluuford]

What are the weatherpredictions for the end of the week and the weekend? Just to know what kind of clothes i should take with me. :D

Weather..

Well, down to the sea-level its should be between +18..+21 degrees during the whole rally.
Wind speed should not exceed 3-5m/s, so windchill never drops below 18 degrees.That is good weather for shorts and T-shirt.. and beer :-)
There should not be any rain. Mostly clear sky, maybe some clouds on Friday.
However, most of the stages are running on the higher altitudes and should be like this.
SS1,4 +20
SS2,5 +18-first part.. +15 last part
SS3,6 +17 start..+12 in the middle and +15 at the end
SS7 +10..+12 whole distance
SS8 Start and finish +12..+14. Most of the stage +9..+10 degrees
SS9,11 Practically the same as previous
SS12,14 Whole stage between +12..+14 degrees

So, starting from stage 7, it should be nice to have some warmer clothing :-)

[wwbroe]

Thank you Bluuford for this extremely detailed weather info, i hope it will be correct as we are used to. :)

[pucky54]

Today was first test. Basso went off :(

[RS]

Today was first test. Basso went off :(

Hopefully crew and car are ok for the start of the rally?

Any pictures or videos from testing yet?

Wilks will have a new livery from here onwards as Peugeot UK signed a new sponsor (Clarion) I think they make car audio systems and from memory used to sponsor Nissan in the BRC.

[HaCo]

Will the national entrylist do less stages than IRC? Will they have different standings?

[pucky54]

Hopefully crew and car are ok for the start of the rally\

Car looks okay, only cosmetic damage


Any pictures or videos from testing yet?

http://fororallycanarias.mforos.com/1413667/10272743-xxxv-rally-islas-canarias-el-corte-ingles-14-16-abril-de-2011-vol-iii/?pag=7


Wilks will have a new livery from here onwards as Peugeot UK signed a new sponsor (Clarion) I think they make car audio systems and from memory used to sponsor Nissan in the BRC.

Yes, you can see it on the photos. Not new livery, just added Clarion stickers


Will the national entrylist do less stages than IRC? Will they have different standings?

They will have their own standings, but doing the same stages.

[HaCo]

I hope Basso can set some good times in the Proton and finally the car becomes reliable.

[pucky54]

Let's wait and see what Basso is doing ;)

[RS]

Gardemeister didn't join these tests?

The Fabia looks mean with the new Skoda typeface and Castrol Edge logos, no new badges on the car yet though (just the rear wing endplates):

http://www.atodomotor.com/contenidos/galerias/2011/TestIC/img/Test_1.jpg

[pucky54]

Gardemeister didn't join these tests?

He did

http://www.solofotosmotor.com/RALLYS/rallys%202011/rally%20de%20canarias%202011/test%20dde%20%20tejeda/images/_IVA7208.jpg

[RS]

Really looking forward to this event now, should be many interesting things to observe. I am expecting Juho to push like hell again like he did on Monte (he doesn't have the title to think about) I am also expecting Mikkelsen to surprise a little.

Basso will also be an interesing one. He is probably the fastest tarmac driver they have had in the car and from the videos it looks like he is pushing hard. However on the spanish forum there is something about him falling out with the team at the test yesterday?

Here is another video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzATQuw-Dhw&feature=player_embedded

[wwbroe]

For me it looks like Magalhaes is going very well on these testing video's, he will certainly one to watch out for.

[Mirek]

Nothing serious with Basso's car, Ron ;) He continued testing with bootlift :)
http://fotos.miarroba.es/fo/49d0/2C4DF6667B294DA37388264DA3737C.jpg

[RS]

Nothing serious with Basso's car, Ron ;) He continued testing with bootlift :)
http://fotos.miarroba.es/fo/49d0/2C4DF6667B294DA37388264DA3737C.jpg

Yes, I saw he was running with a 'modified rear aero package' but in the text on the spanish forum it mentioned there was some argument with the engineers of Proton?

PG said the engine is no better than before, but that they tried a new diff set up and the handling was "really good" They are aiming for top 10. It would be a good achievement for Proton to get both cars home in the points.

[Sulland]

Is it a new engine, or the same lump of metal as before ?

[Crocone]

Sorry for asking. But there is any pickem contest on this forum for this rally?

[Sergio-Rallymax]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLtDOMkImlA

[Tom206wrc]

For me it looks like Magalhaes is going very well on these testing video's, he will certainly one to watch out for.


I hope so, as for Wilks and Neuville...I don't want Bouffier to be the only Pug driver to follow Skoda's pace :p :

[HaCo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLtDOMkImlA

Nice vide, thanks for sharing!

In the first scene you see the Protons lack of power, first pass it falls almost to dead, second pass it shifts a gear down.

Second long scene is awesome with fast right hander!

[Luis Pacheco]

Sorry for asking. But there is any pickem contest on this forum for this rally?

The IRC is the only competition this year in this forum without pickems.

[Sulland]

Why is IRC left out ?

[RICARDO75]

SHAKEDOWN TIMES IRC
http://www.masrallye.com/canarias/11/skfia_ex.html

SHAKEDOWN TIMES REGIONAL
http://www.masrallye.com/canarias/11/skrfeda_ex.html

[HaCo]

They are quite close, even the Hankooks and the Protons :)

[RS]

Yes.. Looking at those times though Kopecky was very quick even on his early runs. Should be an interesting rally.

[mousti]

Will be interesting to compare the times of Vallejo and the IRC guys on some stages too :D .

I only hope both Proton survive aswel Neuville :) and Loix For The Win ! :D

[Barreis]

Proton still slow.

[Mirek]

I think it was expected on shakedown because it's more like a hill climb track.

[PLuto]

Why is IRC left out ?

Maybe because the IRC season started too early and PuddleJumper wasnt able to prepare pickems system in time?

[hantu]

Nice vide, thanks for sharing!

In the first scene you see the Protons lack of power, first pass it falls almost to dead, second pass it shifts a gear down.

Second long scene is awesome with fast right hander!

its just as you said.



Giandomenico Basso, Jan Kopecký, Bruno Magalhães and Yeray Lemes attended the pre-event press conference for Rally Islas Canarias El Corte Inglés .

Some Question to Giandomenico Basso

Question to Giandomenico Basso

...How much running have you done in the car and what are your impressions of it?

GB: “We did a day and a half in Italy and some time here on Monday. There is a lot of work to do on the car and more power is needed at the bottom end of the engine. But I am very happy to be with PROTON.”


anyway .. good luck to him.. ;)

[MR666]

Is this rally live via video like round 1?

[Luis Pacheco]

No.

[MR666]

Thats no fun then, really liked seeing it live.

[Mirek]

Tour de Corse is next one with live TV stages.

[Tom206wrc]

News SS1 and 2 ???? :confused:

[dimviii]

start in 10 minutes Tom

[Luis Pacheco]

Stage 1 will start in few minutes

[MR666]

Tour de Corse is next one with live TV stages.

Sweet, thank you for the info.

[Luis Pacheco]

Best time now for Basso.

[darkstar]

on my stagetimes he´s 10th...are there any splits available?

[Luis Pacheco]

I´m listening the local radio. They said Basso was the faster at that time. A mistake of course.

[RS]

First proper stage now, Loix fastest so far.

Both Protons through, actually I think the times are not too bad - within 1 s/km or so of the fastest.

[mousti]

Anyone have a result page who's good for mobile phones?

[Luis Pacheco]

Great time for Neuville at stage 2.

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Official live results aren't working very well :s

[dimviii]

Anderson fastest??
before few minutes i saw him at 11th position... :rolleyes:

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Anderson fastest??
before few minutes i saw him at 11th position... :rolleyes:
And now, there are no results... :s

[Luis Pacheco]

http://www.masrallye.com/canarias/11/online_ex.html?c=0&t=2

[COD]

IRC-results.com is all messed up...
mousty asked mobile service, irally for Iphone works well for me...

[mousti]

I've blackberry not an Iphone..

[Luis Pacheco]

Better time this way for Basso. Only 3 secs lost in 14 km.

[Luis Pacheco]

Wilks fastest at the moment!

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Basso is going better than I expeted... not so bad...

[RS]

Incredibly close times on SS3. Very good run by Basso on this pure performance rally.

[HaCo]

Neuville!!!!! :D

[[Madeira-Rally]]

If Neuville can keep the car on the road, he will be for sure in a top position at the end!

[hantu]

Seem Basso is a fast driver.. unfortunately proton need some power. good luck for him ;)

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Seem Basso is a fast driver.. unfortunately proton need some power. good luck for him ;)

I had no doubt about the skills of Basso.. I think nobody have any doubt about it... my doubt was about the car :)

[hantu]

]I had no doubt about the skills of Basso.. I think nobody have any doubt about it... my doubt was about the car :)

it use modified waja's 1.8 cc Renault engine . Proton dont have 2.0 cc engine so they have no choice but stick with the engine and try to tune it.

[Francis44]

Very impressed with Wilks.

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Very impressed with Wilks.
And what yu think about Magalhaes??? :s mokin:

[Francis44]

]And what yu think about Magalhaes??? :s mokin:

To be honest im a bit dissapointed however he is not too far from the pace and I believe he will pick it up as the day progresses.

[Tom206wrc]

Yep, rally is still long ;)
A bit gutted Bouffier has not more pace until now though :mark:

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Basso is 1 sec/km slower than Kopcky after 3 stages, not bad at all...

[Barreis]

:D

[HaCo]

Great event until now. No way to predict the winner!

[HaCo]

Loix fastest for now...

Like the way the results are displayes and the automatic highlighting of new results in the list: http://www.masrallye.com/canarias/11/online_ex.html?c=0&t=1

[HaCo]

Big time loss for Andersson... Kopecky fastest right now.

[HaCo]

I find 2 things incredible about Neuville:
- He's fastest Pug
- He's beating one of the two Belgian masters: Loix

[hantu]

SS5, PG got right front puncture ..

[RS]

SS6 seems to be a Skoda stage...

Nice little battle between Gardemeister and Basso.

[mousti]

PG again with problems? Thanks to that Loix couldn't get the fastest time on SS6 :-/

[RS]

Another puncture for PG.

[Ucci]

Where is Fuster??

[mousti]

National Championship rally probably

[Mirek]

+41 seconds to Kopecký

[Luis Pacheco]

To many cars parked at the side of the road of stage 8. The stage could be canceled.

[ZequeArgentina]

And what about SS7?
It is one hour since schedule and no times.

[RS]

No, it should be starting now. Canaries is on same time as UK and one hour behind CET.

[Mirek]

Basso is doing really good times. I like that Proton has someone so fast but in the same time it's pity that Basso can't fight for victory because as a driver he is capable of that...

[mousti]

Basso not bad time only losing 6.2 secs of Juha.

[RS]

Basso is very impressive. Faster than Wilks on this one. Nice time by Kopecky on SS7.

[Luis Pacheco]

Another great time for Neuville!

[RS]

Where is PG? Did they re-order after service?

[Mirek]

Where is PG?

[RS]

He is through now.

Just watching on Eurosport HD. Really spectacular driving by Juho :)

[Mirek]

He is there now but still much slower than Basso...

[FAlonso]

Very disapointed with Bruno's times. Lost 1sec/km on this last stage. (to the 1st)

[Luis Pacheco]

Stage 8 is canceled. Too many spectators.

[RS]

Stage 8 is canceled. Too many spectators.

Shame, but I can go to bed now!

[mousti]

SS8 Cancelled :(

[Bartek]

Difference between Neuville, Kopecky and Hanninen is unbeliveble.

[dimviii]

Wow first 3 crews within 1 sec!!

[HaCo]

Nuts :D

[Wim_Impreza]

Wow first 3 crews within 1 sec!!

Read this WRC bosses / teams / drivers. This is done without tactics and all fair play. :)

Where are the PG fans now? He is really the must overrated driver for a long time... Basso is much faster than him and this for the first rally in this car.

[HaCo]

Read this WRC bosses / teams / drivers. This is done without tactics and all fair play. :)

Where are the PG fans now? He is really the must overrated driver for a long time... Basso is much faster than him and this for the first rally in this car.

Don't forget this is tarmac event, if rules were the same in IRC (standing defines startorder) and surface was the same, we would se the same idiotic play which is part of the sport.

And PG, don't be so hard on him. Basso is specialist on these kind of roads, PG had a 2 punctures and lost a lot of time. Look at the last stage for example: he only gives 7 secs away on 23km on Basso. That is fine I think. Could Basso do the same in reverse on gravel? I have my doubts ;)

[miksu]

Read this WRC bosses / teams / drivers. This is done without tactics and all fair play. :)

Where are the PG fans now? He is really the must overrated driver for a long time... Basso is much faster than him and this for the first rally in this car.

duh...its a tarmac rally.

[Wim_Impreza]

duh...its a tarmac rally.

Gravel experts Mikkelsen and Hänninen aren't doing bad times...

[miksu]

Gravel experts Mikkelsen and Hänninen aren't doing bad times...

Hänninen is maybe the best Finn on tarmac since Toivonen, Mikkelsen is doing better than i thought which is good to see. But this "hype" about PG is all about his speed, and not reliabilty, on gravel and snow where he is pretty fast indeed. Its good that he does some tarmac events too, cause thats really not his strongest areas, never has been. So to think he could have been fighting for top positions here, or against some tarmac experts, is bit silly.

[RS]

Going to be a mega end to the rally. Shame we don't have live tv here... hope for the same battle in Corsica!

[RS]

Where are the PG fans now? He is really the must overrated driver for a long time... Basso is much faster than him and this for the first rally in this car.

I don't think it is that PG is over-rated, it's just that Basso is awesome on this type of rally. I doubt there are many drivers out there who would beat him in these conditions. I remember on Sanremo last year he won one of the night stages by something like 13s (in a Punto) and was "not happy with his driving"

Remember also the last night on Monte once Basso got used to the 207. He only won one stage there, but on the other hand P Solberg in the works car didn't win any.

[blaze7984]

?

[blaze7984]

basso is fast but considering the gains with suspension(easy 1sec/km) and engine(?), not really faster than anyone else that has driven this car?

[dimviii]

Hanninen tarmac expert!! 3,9 in front of Kopecky and just 13,47 km for the finish!!

[RS]

basso is fast but considering the gains with suspension(easy 1sec/km) and engine(?), not really faster than anyone else that has driven this car?

It's pretty hard to say for sure as i don't remember Proton having such a trouble free run any of last year. However I think they have made a step forward in all areas here (car and driver)

[RS]

Looks like first tarmac win for Juho! Congratulations to him, it was a great drive. Great rally!

[dimviii]

Congrats to Juho and Neuville for their pace!

[Mirek]

basso is fast but considering the gains with suspension(easy 1sec/km) and engine(?), not really faster than anyone else that has driven this car?

Oppose to Proton Basso proved himself to be able to win in tarmac rallies. So I really don't believe Proton made such huuuge step forward. You play with numbers like 1 sec/km was something easy to reach. That's huge difference in fact.

[alleskids]

Juha Hanninen is very impressive, and back in the lead again in the IRC. Hopefully he will have the same speed and luck in SWRC in next rounds.
Hanninen 33 points
Bouffier 31
Loix 30
Wilks 25
Kopecky 22
Neuville 15

[nerdhan]

Read this WRC bosses / teams / drivers. This is done without tactics and all fair play. :)

Where are the PG fans now? He is really the must overrated driver for a long time... Basso is much faster than him and this for the first rally in this car.

You are wrong, he is not overrated, its just that he's simply not as fast as Basso on Tarmac .... Remember his stage times when he was driving an Evo 10 in an IRC outing last year, his stage times were right behind some of the front runners.

Wait till you see PG and the Proton on gravel. I think he'll be much more closer to the Pugs and Skodas.... The power deficit on the proton won't be as much of a significant impediment on gravel as it clearly is on Tarmac......

Take into account the 1980's Group A Mazda 323, with a tiny 1.6 litre engine, no where near the Lancias on Tarmac but able to live with the Deltas on gravel as proved by Ingvar Carlsson

[Barreis]

Lancia, bring back Delta. :)

[sal]

http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/fotogalery.php?events=1221&fotograf=2&all=1

Nice images of the cars and ahem... some scenery...

[JTGANG]

Any videos please ?????

[Mirek]

Eurosport reports:

Day 1 pt.1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsKnFT3-YnQ&feature=related
Day 1 pt.2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Zsb0rIsnJU&feature=related

Day 2 pt.1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmp3Cpt7GQw
Day 2 pt.2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK2JiaIUjtQ&feature=channel_video_title

By the way Spanish national drivers compared to IRC

Hänninen (Fabia S2000) 1:40:38,1

Fuster (Porsche Supercup) 1:41:37,0
Pons (Fiesta S2000) 1:42:48,2
Viera (Porsche Supercup) 1:43:38,2
Vallejo (Lotus Exige) 1:44:11,2
Hevia (Fabia S2000) 1:44:13,5

Lorenzo (Focus WRC 08) 1:43:18,1

[RS]

By the way Spanish national drivers compared to IRC

Hänninen (Fabia S2000) 1:40:38,1

Fuster (Porsche Supercup) 1:41:37,0
Pons (Fiesta S2000) 1:42:48,2
Viera (Porsche Supercup) 1:43:38,2
Vallejo (Lotus Exige) 1:44:11,2
Hevia (Fabia S2000) 1:44:13,5

Lorenzo (Focus WRC 08) 1:43:18,1

Yes, the sWRC champ with a 50kg lighter car would have finished 9th, just in front of Basso.

[Sergio-Rallymax]

Yes, the sWRC champ with a 50kg lighter car would have finished 9th, just in front of Basso.

I already said, Pons does not have the level to fight in the IRC.

[wwbroe]

I didn't expect too much from Pons, but i was dissapointed in performance of Alberto Hevia, i expected him to be a lot quicker. Only Fuster was impressive in the "big" Porsche.

[Wim_Impreza]

I didn't expect too much from Pons, but i was dissapointed in performance of Alberto Hevia, i expected him to be a lot quicker. Only Fuster was impressive in the "big" Porsche.

Did you read the PM that I have sent 8 days ago and please can you answer?

[Ucci]

Eurosport reports:

Day 1 pt.1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsKnFT3-YnQ&feature=related
Day 1 pt.2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Zsb0rIsnJU&feature=related

Day 2 pt.1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmp3Cpt7GQw
Day 2 pt.2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK2JiaIUjtQ&feature=channel_video_title

By the way Spanish national drivers compared to IRC

Hänninen (Fabia S2000) 1:40:38,1

Fuster (Porsche Supercup) 1:41:37,0
Pons (Fiesta S2000) 1:42:48,2
Viera (Porsche Supercup) 1:43:38,2
Vallejo (Lotus Exige) 1:44:11,2
Hevia (Fabia S2000) 1:44:13,5

Lorenzo (Focus WRC 08) 1:43:18,1

I've noticed very late this results from national drivers-well done Miguel Fuster !! He is the real hero for me!!! Porsche yust one minute behind top-spec car&top driver in a rally...oh my god......What would happen, if Vallejo would drive this car, as he was always faster than Fuster??? This would be a humiliation for regular IRC drivers...

[PLuto]

I must say Fuster isnt so big hero for me. Last year on Asturias he was starting with S2000 and was absolutely out of Hevia (also if I dont count puncture). This supercup "monster" Porsche is very good on this good tarmac in Spain.

[Ucci]

I must say Fuster isnt so big hero for me. Last year on Asturias he was starting with S2000 and was absolutely out of Hevia (also if I dont count puncture). This supercup "monster" Porsche is very good on this good tarmac in Spain.

I respect your opinion and partly agree with it-Fuster is for me not equivalent to Vallejo or Hevia, but obviousley he has the courage to drive this monster-and what a monster it is. I'm one of the few who had many times opportunity to be driven in a street 911 GT3, and what a car it is-it is brutal, very, very sneaky, the rear has always a wish for going itself.....Therefore I always admire 911 drivers on rallyes, as belive me, this car will punish you for every irregularity during the hard , fast drive......S2000 is a pussy compare to this ''monster''. So, more 911's on rallyes, more fun for spectators, here you should agree with me!!

[RS]

What would happen, if Vallejo would drive this car, as he was always faster than Fuster??? This would be a humiliation for regular IRC drivers...

Not really as it is a different spec of car. You may as well say that if Matt Wilson turned up in a Fiesta WRC it would be a humilation for IRC drivers (although that is probably the only way Matt could win an IRC event!)

I strongly believe that those who were fighting at the top in Canarias are some of the best tarmac rally drivers in the world.

Anyway, from memory weren't the GT cars closer to the top pace last year? (and so was Hevia for that matter)

[Mirek]

Yes, they were much closer probably because they had previous experience with Canrias. This year top IRC driver had the experience also and without the handicap they stepped in higher league. And it should also be mentioned that this Porsche is quite far from GT3. This one is circuit special, not an ordinary GT3. Don't know if they still use it but Vallejo used to have even traction control in the car.

[dimviii]

yes.......420+ps against 280-300..
305 tyres against 235 in asphalt ....and gt3 driver hero....lol

[PLuto]

Dont forget, that Pons was using Hankook, Hevia had all event problems with suspension (car was finished just before event, no time to test) and Fuster doesnt need to push...

[Ucci]

yes.......420+ps against 280-300..
305 tyres against 235 in asphalt ....and gt3 driver hero....lol

Yes.....structure of the vehicle, which goes back almost 50 years, the engine behind the rear axle (weight distribution) against laboratory state-of the art (only for rally) designed vehicle, yust rear wheel drive against four wheel drive, at least 150 kg more weight....yes, 911 drivers are heros...lol !!

[Mirek]

The car is not 150 kg heavier because it is not stock GT3. It is Supercup car which has only little more than S2000. The power is around 470 Hp if I have good info. It has double shock absorbers, better suspension kinematics (no mandatory McPherson which isn't good for tarmac), ceramic brakes with 380 mm discs, 19' wheels with 305 mm tyres, traction control, plastic door, windows etc. The biggest problem probably is gearbox because shortest Supercup gearbox has top speed 247 km/h and that is way too much for such twisty roads. 2WD is no problem on perfect dry tarmac with traction control. It's probably even better because 4WD without center differential is understeering from its nature. Also there is much more power lost in transmission of 4WD.

For sure it was the fastest car in Canarias and if Hänninen drove it, he would probably win easily.

[OldF]

In the recent issue of “Vauhdin maailma” there was a presentation of a Porsche 911 GT3 intended for the FIA GT3 circuit. Its weight is 1160 kg but of course a rally version is heavier because of two seats etc. The power of this one is 440 PS.

[dimviii]

Yes.....structure of the vehicle, which goes back almost 50 years, the engine behind the rear axle (weight distribution) against laboratory state-of the art (only for rally) designed vehicle, yust rear wheel drive against four wheel drive, at least 150 kg more weight....yes, 911 drivers are heros...lol !!

lololol

[dimviii]

The car is not 150 kg heavier because it is not stock GT3. It is Supercup car which has only little more than S2000. The power is around 470 Hp if I have good info. It has double shock absorbers, better suspension kinematics (no mandatory McPherson which isn't good for tarmac), ceramic brakes with 380 mm discs, 19' wheels with 305 mm tyres, traction control, plastic door, windows etc. The biggest problem probably is gearbox because shortest Supercup gearbox has top speed 247 km/h and that is way too much for such twisty roads. 2WD is no problem on perfect dry tarmac with traction control. It's probably even better because 4WD without center differential is understeering from its nature. Also there is much more power lost in transmission of 4WD.

For sure it was the fastest car in Canarias and if Hänninen drove it, he would probably win easily.
+1000
Mirek even with supercup gearbox there is no problem,cause of almost 450Nm torque with very wide curve from 3,8 liter engine.