The future of high-performance engines

[MrMetro]

With the annoucment of Formula 1 moving to more efficient, 'green' engines in 2013, it got me thinking of what will happen to road going V12's, V10's and V8's?

In 10 years time, can we expect the new Aston Martin to be powered by a smaller turbo charged unit? Will Ferrari introduce energy recovery systems to their road cars?

[Zico]

In Evo mag Ferrari have stated that future engines will be pretty much all turbocharged, the 599 is probably the last V12 they will ever build and they already have a 599 KERS concept test car. http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/248899/ferrari_599_hybrid_supercar.html

McLaren have also chosen to turbocharge the V8 in the new Mp4-12c and it looks like they may be looking at hybrid technology for the future P13 if this following statement is true..

"McLaren has put up a job posting for a Senior Engineer for Powertrain Hybrid Technology on its official website, which may offer a few clues as to where the automaker may be heading in the near future for its road cars. As far as rumors go, this one seems pretty solid. According to an unnamed spokesperson quoted by Autocar:

"It (hybrid technology) is something we want as a forward-thinking, technology-driven company. We have been considering it for future projects. All the advert means is that we are looking for a senior engineer in powertrain hybrid technology."

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/07/02/rumormill-mclaren-planning-hybrid-supercar/


Then we have the Jaguars C-X75 hybrid concept car which has an electric motor for each wheel and two diesel or biofuel micro turbines charging the Li-on batteries, an interesting approach but a technology we are probably unlikely to see within the next ten years.
http://www.jaguar.com/gl/en/#/about_jaguar/75th_Anniversary/c-x75/


The future is interesting from a technological point of view but I'd still take the howling N/a V12 over anything.

[Bolton Midnight]

If Red Ed has his way and strives to cut emissions by 50% most folk won't have a car at all let alone a performance one. Apart from the party faithful of course they'll have big luxury cars of course.

[Daniel]

If Red Ed has his way and strives to cut emissions by 50% most folk won't have a car at all let alone a performance one. Apart from the party faithful of course they'll have big luxury cars of course.
Any particular reason you feel the need to politicise everything?

My little contribution

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiair more power, more torque, better fuel efficiency, lighter engines and no negatives.

[Bolton Midnight]

I don't

Just merely pointing out engines in general and especially performance engines have their enemies.

[BDunnell]

I don't

You do.

[Tazio]

My little contribution

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiair more power, more torque, better fuel efficiency, lighter engines and no negatives.


The basic idea, controlling intake valves, works upon the following principle: a valve tappet (cam follower), moved by a mechanical intake cam, is connected to the intake valve through a hydraulic chamber, controlled by a normally open on/off solenoid valve.[3] The system allows optimum intake valve opening schedules
Taken from the same link:
The part I emboldened sugests that this incorporates a desmodromic valve system the likes of which Ducati uses.... true? :confused:

[Daniel]

Taken from the same link:
The part I emboldened sugests that this incorporates a desmodromic valve system the likes of which Ducati uses.... true? :confused:
Does the desmodromic system have solenoids? (I honestly don't know)

[ShiftingGears]

I'm guessing that turbo would be the first response. It's funny how turbos were huge in the 80's and then died off, only to start to come back now.

[Daniel]

The other thing that is going to become more commonplace will be DDCT gearboxes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_clutch_transmission#Fiat_Group

More efficient than traditional boxes :)

[Bolton Midnight]

Didn't the Dolomite Sprint use them too?

[Daniel]

Not opened and closed by solenoids

[Bolton Midnight]

AFAIK it does away with the spring, is opened and closed by a cam, so can rev higher than with a spring.

[Daniel]

AFAIK it does away with the spring, is opened and closed by a cam, so can rev higher than with a spring.

It's very different then.

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[Jag_Warrior]

Probably fifteen years ago I read about development of a magnetically actuated valve system. It allowed for extremely high revs, but without the bounce associated with standard passenger car valve trains. The concept would have supposedly moved passenger car engines closer to the performance/rev limits of the pneumatic systems used in F1 engines. I think Mercedes was involved but I can't remember... and I haven't read anything about it since.

[Jag_Warrior]

Ah, found something!

Electro-Magnetic Valve Actuation System: First Steps toward Mass Production (http://papers.sae.org/2008-01-1360/)


Market expectations for the next generation of gasoline engines are: improved performance for better driveability, lower toxic emissions to meet future legislation, and reduced fuel consumption to help meet future legislation linked to Green House Gas emissions (including CO2) and to counter the recent increase in fuel price. In addition, any new technical solution must be cost effective and applicable to a large volume of engines.

[Roamy]

I am going out with a Cummins in a bad ass Dodge - Unless I win the lotto. then I think it is now a 458 (ferrari)