PDA

View Full Version : 2011 european rally championship



Pages : [1] 2

morganmilan
19th October 2010, 17:04
I apologize for starting this thread with a question , but, does anybody know anything about 2011 erc calendar? I suppose there must be a proviaional list of rounds for next season. Are expected changes from 2010 calendar? Rallyes as Barum, Ypres, etc have to be included again, I guess...but Bosphorus or Principe de Asturias, too? Thnx for any information :)

PLuto
20th October 2010, 16:39
There are actually no news about 2011 season. But it looks there will be one more round (Bulgaria), others will stay, but some change of dates possible. There will be some changes for regulations (for example to restrict drivers, who was registered, but not start - for example there will be not mandatory to give ERC registered drivers to the top of start list...) and there will be change in points system (or better in number of rounds, which will be counted into overall classification).

morganmilan
21st October 2010, 15:02
There are actually no news about 2011 season. But it looks there will be one more round (Bulgaria), others will stay, but some change of dates possible. There will be some changes for regulations (for example to restrict drivers, who was registered, but not start - for example there will be not mandatory to give ERC registered drivers to the top of start list...) and there will be change in points system (or better in number of rounds, which will be counted into overall classification).
Thnx for the info Pluto. I understand that only some results will count for final standings and not all of them. If ERC teams arent given first start numbers, I suppose we are going to see less teams registered, although maybe it´s not important at all. I suppose too that the more obligation to register and really run rallyes, the less teams next season at ERC. Don´t you think the same?

morganmilan
31st October 2010, 22:22
Ypres rally will be scoring round again for ERC next year on 23-25th June. Link:
http://www.rally-erc.com/article.php?cont=596

tolis
31st October 2010, 22:45
It is very likely that Rally Elpa will be a full tarmac event next year.

Jarek Z
1st November 2010, 16:45
There are actually no news about 2011 season. But it looks there will be one more round (Bulgaria), others will stay, but some change of dates possible.

Even more rounds than now?! 11 is already too many and now 12? I'm sorry, but whoever invented this idea must be insane.

PLuto
2nd November 2010, 19:50
Yes, it looks there will be 12 events. But not all will be counted into final classification.

urabus-denoS2000
2nd November 2010, 20:40
Catastrophic ....

Barreis
2nd November 2010, 20:56
More informations about our event except date?

Jarek Z
2nd November 2010, 21:25
Yes, it looks there will be 12 events. But not all will be counted into final classification.

Pure nonsense!

morganmilan
3rd November 2010, 16:31
Yes, it looks there will be 12 events. But not all will be counted into final classification.
So they´re supposed to be the same as this season with the addition of Bulgaria, aren´t they?

br21
3rd November 2010, 18:20
Rajd Polski (Rally Poland) will be in second part of September 2011. Last couple of years it was held in June.

PLuto
3rd November 2010, 20:57
So they´re supposed to be the same as this season with the addition of Bulgaria, aren´t they?

Yes

PLuto
3rd November 2010, 20:58
I am still talking to people at FIA - delete from ERC events, which drivers arent interested in competing in this championship. Why there is Greece, Portugal or Spain, their drivers in last years werent interested to race in ERC (only Magalhaes one year)...

GF
4th November 2010, 09:57
You cannot have a named "European" championship with only a couple of countries which have representatives ( I,CZ,PL). Will be more like area cup.

It needs some incentives or other formulas (ie no registrations etc), to attract competitors that can participate in near countries.

PLuto
4th November 2010, 13:36
Yes, I agree with you. But I want to promote and expand ERC. It is difficult to find events to delete from calendar, I am trying to find any "notice" how and why to do it. Madeira is the most expensive event in ERC for teams, Turkey is too far and for European team sometimes problems with transportation, Spain is nice events, but teams are not interested to be there, similar it is with Greece, but it is gravel event, which is one advantage above other events...

tolis
4th November 2010, 13:41
...Greece, but it is gravel event, which is one advantage above other events...
Not anymore. :(

PLuto
4th November 2010, 13:49
I think it isnt sure yet. But if Greece lost tarmac, I think they will loose last reason to be in ERC...

GF
4th November 2010, 14:51
Yes, I agree with you. But I want to promote and expand ERC. It is difficult to find events to delete from calendar, I am trying to find any "notice" how and why to do it. Madeira is the most expensive event in ERC for teams, Turkey is too far and for European team sometimes problems with transportation, Spain is nice events, but teams are not interested to be there, similar it is with Greece, but it is gravel event, which is one advantage above other events...

Fully acceptable your notice and in the right way. But in the other hand if you think to remove all these events (also Turkey), it is easy to find a lot of reasons and you will create an only central European champ.

The change of surface for the Greek event has some very specific targets and only the timing change will help the event for more participants. I have to agree with you that its difference to gravel is one of the last reasons to attract entries.

PLuto
4th November 2010, 15:06
If Greece will be on tarmac, I think there will be less competitors, thatn this or last year on gravel...

PLuto
4th November 2010, 15:10
Fully acceptable your notice and in the right way. But in the other hand if you think to remove all these events (also Turkey), it is easy to find a lot of reasons and you will create an only central European champ.

Not only Central European, but also for example Italy or Belgium. In short - bring the championship more closer to the countries, which drivers are interested in competing in it. I dont remember any greek driver in many years, who was starting in ERC (abroad)...

morganmilan
4th November 2010, 16:04
Not only Central European, but also for example Italy or Belgium. In short - bring the championship more closer to the countries, which drivers are interested in competing in it. I dont remember any greek driver in many years, who was starting in ERC (abroad)...
I agree completely PLuto. The sensation is some rounds (Canarias, Madeira,..) are here more for touristic or economic benefits than for sport ones. The cheaper the championship is, the bigger registration list it has got. Maybe ERC becomes more "central european" but, what to worry about if rallysport and proper championship wins with it?

RICARDO75
4th November 2010, 19:04
I agree with both. I also think that the ERC events that are entered in the IRC, should be apart. I do not mean to take Belgium and Czech Republic out of the ERC, but could have other rallies of their national championship. Ex: Condroz and Bohemia

PLuto
4th November 2010, 19:29
Yes, this is also possibility. But I dont think that this change should bring more crews, which should be main target for everybody...

morganmilan
4th November 2010, 19:50
I think the most logic is to choose 8 or 10 rounds from the european countries (one each) whose teams entry the most out of their countries. If belgian, czech, polish, italian, etc are the teams who run the most abroad, there would be one round from these countries at ERC. If spanish or greek or croatian crews don´t run outside, it´s absurd to maintain rounds from these countries at ERC

morganmilan
4th November 2010, 19:51
I think the most logic is to choose 8 or 10 rounds from the european countries (one each) whose teams entry the most out of their countries. If belgian, czech, polish, italian, etc (it´s an example, I really don´t know if true) are the teams who run the most abroad, there would be one round from these countries at ERC. If spanish or greek or croatian crews don´t run outside, it´s absurd to maintain rounds from these countries at ERC

urabus-denoS2000
4th November 2010, 19:54
I actually agree with you , but I would leave Croatia as an exception because over the last 3 years it was very well entered by ERC regulars and almost all of the drivers have a positive opinion about it ;)

NaBUru38
4th November 2010, 19:54
The proper European Rally Championship is called Intercontinental Rally Challenge. It has decent media coverage in Europe. You miss Argentina, Madeira, Açores, Canarias and Cyprus, race just in Monte Carlo, Corse, Ypres, Zlin, Hungary, Sanremo and Scotland, and can still fight for the championship.

morganmilan
4th November 2010, 19:54
Besides, registration should be free, so crews who collected budget at midseason, or who scored a couple of good results could go on at the championship

PLuto
4th November 2010, 19:59
If the registration should be free, almost everybody will register - look at situation on Miglia, where lot of local drivers enters, but start only at home. I think that actual ammount is symbolic...

GF
4th November 2010, 20:46
If Greece will be on tarmac, I think there will be less competitors, thatn this or last year on gravel...

It'll loose the ones who want to have more gravel experience, but will have more access to "Balkan tarmac market".

The balance is a questionmark.

Jarek Z
4th November 2010, 21:05
It is difficult to find events to delete from calendar, I am trying to find any "notice" how and why to do it. Madeira is the most expensive event in ERC for teams, Turkey is too far and for European team sometimes problems with transportation, Spain is nice events, but teams are not interested to be there, similar it is with Greece, but it is gravel event, which is one advantage above other events...

It is not difficult to find events to get rid of. Examples? Turkey - nobody wants to compete there, no spectators, no Turkish crews interested in ERC. Spain - they were out of ERC for years and nobody cried. No Spanish crews interested in ERC. Easy? Easy! ;)

PLuto
4th November 2010, 21:05
I am in contact with ERC drivers last three years. I know lot of about their opinions, I know the costs for each event, I know about troubles with transporting to events... Especially when Elpa is one of the last events, when budgets of teams arent big...

PLuto
4th November 2010, 21:10
It is not difficult to find events to get rid of. Examples? Turkey - nobody wants to compete there, no spectators, no Turkish crews interested in ERC. Spain - they were out of ERC for years and nobody cried. No Spanish crews interested in ERC. Easy? Easy! ;)

Yes, Turkey has two biggest problems - transport there is expensive (and costs also lot of time) and they are out of EU, which means problems with transproting the cars.

With Spain I completely agree. It is really nice event, I was going through all stages of Asturias last year and I love them very much, better than stages near Salou during WRC. But ERC drivers arent interested in this event. I dont know why, maybe two reasons - too far for "central european teams" (from Czech it is 2500 kms) and maybe too many events in September in all national and international championships. But absolutely no interest from Spanish crews is truth...

PLuto
4th November 2010, 21:17
And for your info - I have made also something like private questionnaire with ERC drivers about future of this championship, what they want and doesnt want. All organisers of ERC events have results of this "research"...

GF
5th November 2010, 09:43
And for your info - I have made also something like private questionnaire with ERC drivers about future of this championship, what they want and doesnt want. All organisers of ERC events have results of this "research"...

It will be useful to have a summary of the opinions.

PLuto
5th November 2010, 10:10
All organisers and FIA received this questionnaires with brief summary, dont be afraid.

atsiotras79
6th November 2010, 12:18
Elpa Rally which as mentioned before is going all tarmac seems to be moving too in April!!!!

Jarek Z
7th November 2010, 15:34
Just another bad decision. Those gravel stages was what made this rally unique!

Sardalense
23rd November 2010, 22:05
2011 calendar

01.03/04 GRC 35º ELPA RALLY
14.16/04 ITA 35º RALLYE MILE MIGLIA
27.29/05 HRV 38º CROATIA RALLY
10.12/06 TUR BOSPHORUS RALLY
23.25/06 BRL GEKO YPRES RALLY
08.10/07 BGR RALLY BULGARIA
04.06/08 PRT 52º RALLYE VINHO DA MADEIRA
26.28/08 CZE BARUM CZECH RALLY ZIN
08.10/09 ESP 48º RALLY PRINCIPE DE ASTURIAS
23.25/09 POL 68º RALLY POLAND
14.16/10 FRA RALLYE ANTIBES CÔTE D’AZUR
27.29/10 CHE RALLY DU VALAIS

PLuto
23rd November 2010, 22:38
Sorry, it is not correct calendar...

morganmilan
23rd November 2010, 22:52
Sorry, it is not correct calendar...
But, is the list of rallyes correct or are there any changes?

PLuto
23rd November 2010, 22:54
List of events is correct, only dates...

morganmilan
23rd November 2010, 22:55
List of events is correct, only dates...
OK thnx PLuto ;)

Sardalense
23rd November 2010, 23:17
Sorry, it is not correct calendar...

I believe in you, but my source was the portuguese federation:

http://www.fpak.pt/calendario/2011/FIA/ERC%202011.pdf

But once again, I believe more in you that in them :D

PLuto
24th November 2010, 01:46
This is old version :-)

PLuto
24th November 2010, 12:54
Here you can find final version of calendar - http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=11376

Raven
27th November 2010, 09:47
What can I say? People responsible for ERC swhowed again that their brains are not working properly.

PLuto
27th November 2010, 11:53
It is only politics, nothing more... But I think that next year version with lower number of events which are counting into final classification is better than actual one.

Jarek Z
27th November 2010, 15:55
I'm sorry to say that, but both calendars are s-h-i-t-t-y. It's no use discussing which version is better.

PLuto
10th December 2010, 15:53
No S2000 with 1.6 Turbo in regional championships in 2011 - http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=11444

Sulland
10th December 2010, 19:04
The ERC is very much a Mid-South European championship, no rallies and very few teams from North Europe - Sad really, since the NEZ Rally series is not much to shout about !!

PLuto
10th December 2010, 23:46
Except Henrik Lundgaard and Mikael Sundstrom (on the beginning of 90s) I dont remember any driver from North Europe which was interested in this championship...

PLuto
13th December 2010, 18:59
No S2000 with 1.6 Turbo in regional championships in 2011 - http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=11444

And three days later situation is completely different - http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=11460

OldF
13th December 2010, 20:18
And three days later situation is completely different - http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=11460

And it seems to be official also. Restrictor size is not still decided (page 10-11).

http://argent.fia.com/web/fia-public.nsf/64A99AF40010F141C12577F8005E4F53/$FILE/2011_RRR_Regs&Appx.pdf

PLuto
13th December 2010, 20:50
Yes, it is official. Thats why I wrote the article...

tolis
31st January 2011, 20:20
The draft itinerary, the programme and the maps of the first round of 2011 ERC, Rally ELPA are published in the official website of the event: http://www.elparally.gr/EN/2011/

atsiotras79
25th February 2011, 11:00
Latest news in the Elpa Rally website mentions that in the 28th of February it will be announced if finally the rally will count for ERC or if it will count only for Greek championship!

http://www.elparally.gr/GR/2011/

I do not want even to comment on that! Again the same things.....

Sulland
25th February 2011, 12:30
Except Henrik Lundgaard and Mikael Sundstrom (on the beginning of 90s) I dont remember any driver from North Europe which was interested in this championship...

What should be done to change that, would make sense to go from National scene, to ERC and then IRC/WRC, but that rarely happens today. Not sure what cred being an ERC champ has around Europe, does it get you any sponsors with that on the CV, somebody know ?

PLuto
25th February 2011, 20:00
Actually after one week from publication 10 entered crews into ERC - http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=11810

Jarek Z
25th February 2011, 20:23
Thanks for the list PLuto. It looks quite good, just one week after the entry list was opened.

Maybe it will turn out better than we think with this Elpa Rally cancellation. After all, it is much better when such a classic event as Mille Miglia opens ERC. ELPA Rally was a great event in the nineties when it was held on Halkidiki (just look at those photos --> http://www.rallyonline.pl/g.php?1&pg_[desc]=+DESC&pg_[go]=20&pg_[ex_path]=306&modex=pokaz&T[id]=776). I'm sorry to say that, but now it is just another tarmac rally with not much meaning...

tolis
25th February 2011, 20:26
Maybe it will turn out better than we think with this Elpa Rally cancellation.
:( Don't think so Jarek...

atsiotras79
25th February 2011, 20:27
ELPA Rally was a great event in the nineties when it was held on Halkidiki (just look at those photos --> http://www.rallyonline.pl/g.php?1&pg_[desc]=+DESC&pg_[go]=20&pg_[ex_path]=306&modex=pokaz&T[id]=776). I'm sorry to say that, but now it is just another tarmac rally with not much meaning...

I think it cannot be summed up much better in a sentence! I completely agree with you!

Jarek Z
25th February 2011, 20:29
Oh, you really do? And I thought that Greek friends would kill me for saying something like that! ;)

Fiat-131-Abarth
25th February 2011, 22:18
Maybe (hopefully) ERC 2012 starts in january in Austria. The Jänner Rallye would be a great opening event for the championship.

PLuto
26th February 2011, 01:54
I dont know, but I would be against it. Janner Rallye starts too early for most of crews...

atsiotras79
28th February 2011, 18:59
I translate press release send today to many Greek media.

"According to decision made by the Organising Committee of the 35th Rally ELPA, the rally, which will take place as planned on 1-3 April 2011, with center the town of Lamia, will not count for the European Rally Championship.

The transfer of Rally ELPA at the start of the calendar of the ERC in addition to the change from gravel surface to tarmac surface, were aiming at attracting more foreign crews. Until today, with only month left from start of the rally, the interest shown from foreign crews was almost zero, fact, in which adding the difficulty of finding strong sponsors during the economic crisis, lead the Organising Committee into this decision.

ELPA will proceed with the organisation of the rally without any concession in the standards. The 35th ELPA Rally will be adapted to the standards of the Greek Rally Championship. All changes will be announced soon with press release and through the official website of the rally".

atsiotras79
28th February 2011, 20:21
It says "Until today, with only month left from start of the rally, the interest shown from foreign crews was almost zero"

How do they know that?
No entry form in the website of the rally
http://www.elparally.gr/EN/2011/
And entries close on March 21!
Cheap excuse!

PLuto
28th February 2011, 20:32
Nobody at FIA or greek federation knows about it. More we will see tomorrow.

atsiotras79
28th February 2011, 20:50
http://www.msfree.gr/ms.php?id=19311
http://www.xwmatinos.gr/xwma/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1598
http://www.r40.gr/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2001&Itemid=187

Υes, it is actually a bit weird how this press release was sent to most major greek websites and still is not on the official website of the rally...

urabus-denoS2000
28th February 2011, 20:54
Here's how a promo video should look like :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyfPm7mbRek&feature=player_embedded

PLuto
28th February 2011, 20:56
It is confirmed, Elpa is out of ERC.

GL Media Pro
28th February 2011, 21:03
I need to cancel my hotel booking... grrrr
Not good news....

PLuto
28th February 2011, 21:51
For me it is not good news too. I am happy that I didnt booked ferry tickets yet...

PLuto
1st March 2011, 19:49
Actual list of entries counts 19 crews - http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=11829

morganmilan
1st March 2011, 20:04
Actual list of entries counts 19 crews - http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=11829
Are there any news about the car that will be used by the main italian contenders for the crown? Rossetti, Basso, Travaglia, for instance.

PLuto
1st March 2011, 22:20
I think not yet. Longhi is trying to secure budget for starts with Mini, but nothing is sure. And they can change cars event by event...

morganmilan
1st March 2011, 22:22
I think not yet. Longhi is trying to secure budget for starts with Mini, but nothing is sure. And they can change cars event by event...
So let´s wait and see. Thnx PLuto

Raven
2nd March 2011, 09:13
Probably most of the italian drivers entered ERC only to get high number on Mille Miglia. They do it every year.

PLuto
2nd March 2011, 15:10
Probably most of the italian drivers entered ERC only to get high number on Mille Miglia. They do it every year.

Situation is different this year, regulations has changed and ERC drivers dont have better starting numbers. And crews knows about it.

Mirek
2nd March 2011, 16:03
It's not that different as ERC may be run as a separate field in many events due to 1.6T cars. That means being registred is still an advantage in such events.

PLuto
2nd March 2011, 16:40
I think it will be more disadvantage...

Co-driven
2nd March 2011, 17:02
ELPA Rally canceled at all??

http://www.elparally.gr/EN/2011:

"The Organising Committee of the ELPA rally regret to announce the cancelation of the 35 ELPA RALLY planned for the 1-3 April 2011

The decision of the Organising Committee to move the date of the Rally at the beginning of the European Rally Championship calendar as also to change the surface from gravel to asphalt, was no sufficient so as to attract neither an adequate number of sponsorships nor of competitors who due to the Greek financial crisis did not show any interest.

ELPA
Automobile & Touring Club
35th ELPA RALLY
Press Office"

Or it is just about the European Championship?

atsiotras79
2nd March 2011, 18:33
Rumours say so far it will be done and count only for Greek championship. 2 days (each day counts as separate event) with around 100 competitive kms each day.
But nothing is certain with the "organisers" in Greece. They may change their opinion again in the next 10secs...

Here in Greece they say that not enough foreign entries showed interest...
Outside Greece they say that Greek crews did not show interest...
Maybe in other planet they say that a comet is going to hit earth....

N.O.T
2nd March 2011, 20:32
no money...and far too risky if something happened to cover things up if a european crew was involved....

Co-driven
2nd March 2011, 22:11
But after all, the rally is canceled or it will run only for the Greek Championship?

tolis
2nd March 2011, 22:14
But after all, the rally is canceled or it will run only for the Greek Championship?
It will run only for Greek championship. More information will be announced shortly.

Co-driven
3rd March 2011, 00:02
Ok. Thanks for the answer.

It's because I read the message a few posts above on the event's official website and thought that it sounded like the rally was canceled at all:

"The Organising Committee of the ELPA rally regret to announce the cancelation of the 35 ELPA RALLY planned for the 1-3 April 2011"

tolis
3rd March 2011, 19:24
20 crews registered: http://www.rally-erc.com/article.php?cont=622

Jarek Z
6th March 2011, 22:05
Polish driver Maciej Oleksowicz started his preparations for a new season. At first he had trainings in Italy with Vittorio Caneva and then he had a test session in France with Simon Jean-Joseph. Oleksowicz will compete in this year's ERC with Ford Fiesta S2000.

http://www.autoklub.pl/media/201103/37945-joseph.jpg

PLuto
16th March 2011, 20:21
Petar Gyoshev had official presentation this evening - http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=11887

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/0a800aa82af1189ef950eca3b762937c.jpg

Boris Ivanov
16th March 2011, 22:13
Go Pepi, Gooo!!

PLuto
4th April 2011, 11:56
23. registered driver is Marco Signor

PLuto
6th April 2011, 03:11
It is in different thread, but I think it should be also here: Travaglia plans six events in ERC with Fabia - Miglia, Croatia, Ypres, Madeira, Barum and Antibes - http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=12017

PLuto
10th April 2011, 18:01
As I have promised in different threads, we will start with "driver profiles" on ERC pages. As Luca Rossetti didnt sent the answer to questionnaires, first one is "silver" driver from ERC 2010 Antonin Tlustak: http://www.rally-erc.com/drivers/tlustak.php

urabus-denoS2000
10th April 2011, 21:07
Jan Skaloud looks like a boy !

Barreis
10th April 2011, 22:00
Just like you.. :D

urabus-denoS2000
10th April 2011, 22:38
I knew you'd comment ;)

Raven
13th April 2011, 11:09
[wrong thread]

urabus-denoS2000
17th April 2011, 21:28
What's with Corrado then ? He's not participating ?

GL Media Pro
23rd April 2011, 20:51
Online the HD TV Magazine of European Rally Championship 2011 about Rally 1000 Miglia on the new Web TV Channel of ERC:
http://www.ellegy.com/ "FIA ERC Web Channel TV" or directly to http://erc.ellegy.tv/

urabus-denoS2000
23rd April 2011, 21:30
Very good show ;) Keep up the good work !

Jarek Z
23rd April 2011, 23:01
Online the HD TV Magazine of European Rally Championship 2011 about Rally 1000 Miglia on the new Web TV Channel of ERC:
http://www.ellegy.com/ "FIA ERC Web Channel TV" or directly to http://erc.ellegy.tv/

I have just seen the video from Mille Miglia (it's also published at http://www.rally-erc.com) and I think it's great! I like the voice of the speaker. Who is he? He sounds professional!
I only don't like the fact that only the drivers registered in ERC are shown. Not a word about Andreucci, who was the real winner of this event!

urabus-denoS2000
23rd April 2011, 23:22
Well it is about ERC , so I understand . But it isn't nice to see the general clasification with only ERC guys

mousti
24th April 2011, 03:40
Remember IRC Safari, Rautenbach was winner with a Subaru no second of footage of him and no speak about him too in Eurosport review of that rally. It's ERC who pays them to film them and making this program and does who are registered get the privilege to show their sponsors and stuff by this :) .

urabus-denoS2000
24th April 2011, 10:53
Remember IRC Safari, Rautenbach was winner with a Subaru no second of footage of him and no speak about him too in Eurosport review of that rally. It's ERC who pays them to film them and making this program and does who are registered get the privilege to show their sponsors and stuff by this :) .

Yes , however it was a little different situation since Subaru wasn't a registered IRC manufacter back then ;)

Mirek
24th April 2011, 11:24
It's basically same situation. In IRC manufacturers register, in ERC drivers register.

GL Media Pro
24th April 2011, 14:13
Very good show ;) Keep up the good work !
Many Thanks!
This is the TV Magazine of FIA ERC and I have agreement for use only the ERC registered drivers... sorry

mousti
24th April 2011, 14:14
Indeed.. That's why Hankook doesn't get any recognition on the result page of the IRC

tolis
24th April 2011, 14:33
Many Thanks!
This is the TV Magazine of FIA ERC and I have agreement for use only the ERC registered drivers... sorry
Very very nice!!! I wish Motors TV showed that on HD...

Tom206wrc
28th April 2011, 18:57
About Rally Croatia, next ERC event... :p :
http://www.croatia-rally.com/miss/miss.html

:D

urabus-denoS2000
28th April 2011, 19:52
Yes , those girls are quite a hit ( although most of them are pretty ugly for my taste ) ;)

I already see this turning into a "Rally fans taste in women" , similar to the beer one ;)

pucky54
28th April 2011, 20:08
no 7 for the win :D :D :D

Jarek Z
28th April 2011, 21:51
I also voted for miss number 7. However miss number 14 leads by 25 points. Tight battle in the Croatia Rally! :)

urabus-denoS2000
28th April 2011, 22:19
I voted for miss 14 :)

mousti
28th April 2011, 22:30
Are they also actaully rallyfans? If they do some of here would say it would be their future wife :D

urabus-denoS2000
28th April 2011, 22:47
Are they also actaully rallyfans? If they do some of here would say it would be their future wife :D

Of course they are not ;) They are models , and judging from their names I can see they are mostly from Serbia , which is very weird for me , because we have very nice girls here in Croatia ;)

Hartusvuori
3rd May 2011, 17:27
PLuto, is there more driver profiles lined up for ERC's website?

Jarek Z
3rd May 2011, 21:10
No, PLuto is now working on profiles of Miss Rally Croatia models :D

Not to be completely off topic - I read somewhere that Serkan Yazici, multiple Turkish champion, wants to hire Mini S2000 for Bosphorus Rally, the 4th ERC round held in Turkey in June.

urabus-denoS2000
5th May 2011, 15:08
Solowow is entered in Croatia in a Evo X R4 ? Polish friends , what do you know about this ?

Jarek Z
5th May 2011, 16:05
The answer is simple - absolutely nothing! :D

Also Longhi and Rossetti entered the event. Looks good!

Bartek
5th May 2011, 18:18
If someone in next rally in Poland win in Clio R3 he will probably buy that car. For me it's funny, he drove one season in Abarth, one in 207, one in Fiesta and now Evo.

Now we must wait when also another Polish rally driver Maciej Oleksowicz change his car.

br21
5th May 2011, 21:34
Solowow thinks R4 can be faster on polish roads than S2000 cars so they build an Evo as R4 kit for Mitsubishi is easier to get than to Subaru. They are very professional team, able to find money to build such car, they will do some testing comparing R4 and S2000 and then will sell slower car - it shouldn't be a problem.

mousti
5th May 2011, 22:35
Polish roads maybe but don't expect that on Ypres or so. And indeed funny of his car changes, and that's why I thought he would go with a Fabia this year :D .

Able to find money? I don't they don't need to find money, Michal opens his pocket and the car is paid :D

Longhi with Fabia? Still no Mini, although he should be allowed to drive with it in Croatia? Or didn't they gave him too much funds? And the reason behind those local funds is that Longhi has no budget for to drive ERC or not? Or he got lucky and got extra sponsors? :D Guessing around now :D

Raven
6th May 2011, 06:59
If someone in next rally in Poland win in Clio R3 he will probably buy that car. For me it's funny, he drove one season in Abarth, one in 207, one in Fiesta and now Evo.
You forgot the Clio s1600 (which he wasn't able to master) or changing to new Evo every time it was released.
He is for sure a fast driver on home ground (but not for top european drivers) and he should find those extra seconds in himself not in new car.

havk
6th May 2011, 08:28
I think rally driver should search for extra seconds everywhere. Solowow is aiming at Polish title this year and if R4 turn out to be faster on our specific and fast rallies why not try? What's wrong with that?

Raven
6th May 2011, 08:42
IWhat's wrong with that?
What's wrong? Strange thinking. IMHO first you have to master a car in 100% (or close, or when it's old) and than change it to faster one. In other case you are not improving and you are faster only because the car is faster. Like Szymon Ruta or Marcin Bełtowski... though word "faster" is not a proper one in this case.
Look how many cars we have in Poland in lower classes? If not a N4 or S2000 than it has to be C2R2, Clio R3 or Cicvic TypeR - and those cars are too fast for at least half of these drivers.
I was writing about drivers in general, not about Solowow, but he also likes to change cars too often.


if R4 turn out to be faster on our specific and fast rallies why not try
Bouffier and Kajetanowicz proved than even N4 is able to win polish championship, so it's the matter of the driver, not the car.

havk
6th May 2011, 10:04
Solowow drives S2000 cars since 2007 so I think it's enough to master this type of the car. Now it seems that R4 could be faster, so worth at least testing I think? Not sure if changing the car in the middle of the season is good idea. You always need time to get used to the new car. But if R4 turns out to be much faster why not? Especially when the aim is title. Drivers like Bouffier don't have to change cars to win in Polish Championship, but he's just in another league. Comparing him and other drivers in Polish Championship is useless. And when Bouffier drives N-group it was so much harder to get the title for him (and if not Kuchar's car failure in Dolnoslaski Rally, who knows who'd had been champion). So IMO it's the matter of both car and driver ;-) But generally I agree that many drivers are getting into fast cars too early..

Raven
6th May 2011, 12:54
Solowow drives S2000 cars since 2007 so I think it's enough to master this type of the car.
I think that every s2000 car is different enough not to drive it at 100% at first rally.
If he knows S2000 car so good then why on rallies abroad he losts so much time, even when the winning drivers had the same (or even less) knowledge of the roads? I still think than he can find many seconds "in himself".


Now it seems that R4 could be faster, so worth at least testing I think?
Maybe, but it could be difficult to jump from car to car at the same season, but probably not as difficult as from Lancer to Clio (as Solowo did in 2006).


Drivers like Bouffier don't have to change cars to win in Polish Championship, but he's just in another league.Comparing him and other drivers in Polish Championship is useless.
You forgot I also mentioned Kajetanowicz.


And when Bouffier drives N-group it was so much harder to get the title for him (and if not Kuchar's car failure in Dolnoslaski Rally, who knows who'd had been champion)
As far as I remember Bouffier had also problems in this rally?



So IMO it's the matter of both car and driver ;-)
You are right, but the driver is still more important ;)


Ok, lest's get back to the topic... I didn't vote for nr 7 :D

pucky54
6th May 2011, 13:17
Ok, lest's get back to the topic... I didn't vote for nr 7

Must be tactics :P

urabus-denoS2000
6th May 2011, 15:27
Longhi with Fabia? Still no Mini, although he should be allowed to drive with it in Croatia? Or didn't they gave him too much funds? And the reason behind those local funds is that Longhi has no budget for to drive ERC or not? Or he got lucky and got extra sponsors? :D Guessing around now :D

Longhi will drive the Fabia instead of the injured Alex Humar . The car is funded by Škoda Slovenia and is property of Target Motorsport . Why is Lonhgi driving it , I don't know , but probably via some connection to Italian RB Motorsport who are very connected with Tager in the Fabia project ( RB even advertise to have a Fabia S2000 )

mousti
6th May 2011, 16:48
Longhi will drive the Fabia instead of the injured Alex Humar . The car is funded by Škoda Slovenia and is property of Target Motorsport . Why is Lonhgi driving it , I don't know , but probably via some connection to Italian RB Motorsport who are very connected with Tager in the Fabia project ( RB even advertise to have a Fabia S2000 )
Thanks for your responso Longhi is worth enough subsitute for Humar and I hope with probably again a podium place maybe even the win he gets very motivated to drive the whole ERC championship!

GL Media Pro
7th May 2011, 14:22
For the second round of European Rally Championship 2011, Ellegy is ready to produce the second episode of "ERC TV Magazine", from Rijeka, Croatia.

TV Schedule - 38° CROATIA RALLY by Ellegy

MotorsTV:
- Friday May 27 at 22:31, 06:35
- Saturday May 28 at 8:30, 12:36, 22:32
- Sunday May 29 at 19:04, 22:57
- Monday May 30 at 11:45


MotorsTV (UK):
- Friday May 27 at 22:35, 05:32
- Saturday May 28 at 10:04, 21:32
- Sunday May 29 at 18:56, 01:12
- Monday May 30 at 10:35


MotorsTV (France):
- Friday May 27 at 22:03
- Sunday May 29 at 09:49, 02:04
- Monday May 30 at 19:47
- Tuesday May 31 at 05:44
- Thursday June 2 at 11:53, 01:13


Primocanale Sky 595 (Italy):
- Friday May 27 at 20:00 and 22:30

PrimocanaleSport (DDT-Liguria) and Primocanale.it (Simul Cast):
- Thursday May 26 at 19:30

From Saturday May 28 the Magazine will be online in HD on Ellegy.com and Rally-ERC.com.

The video of Rally 1000 Miglia, first Round of ERC 2011 are online in HD inside official European Rally Championship web Channet TV: http://erc.ellegy.tv

Ucci
7th May 2011, 19:39
Thanks for your responso Longhi is worth enough subsitute for Humar and I hope with probably again a podium place maybe even the win he gets very motivated to drive the whole ERC championship!
Fact is, that RB Motorsport is the owner of that Fabia. Target bought the car from Kuzaj, but later sold Fabia to RB. Agreement between RB&Target is yust Slovenian championship for Humar, as he is injured, Longhi will drive instead of Humar, so this is a clear message to whom belongs this particular Fabia.
There is a lot of speaking and spreading rumors this days in Slovenia about this case-we are happy to se Piero Longhi on rally Saturnus, but not in ''our'' car...Remember, Slovenian Importer for Škoda cars invested quite a lot of mony in this project. I still think that RB could give a chance to Kaučič or Andrej Jereb, who already drove P207S2000 twice on Monte Carlo. But there are some old misunderstandings between Target-Jereb-Kaučič, so maybe at the end it is better to have Longhi and enjoy battle between Pech and Longhi....

urabus-denoS2000
9th May 2011, 17:12
Entry list for Croatia :)

ERC
http://www.haks.hr/pravilnici/natjecanja/11n-a03_croatia_entries.pdf

Croatian championship
http://www.haks.hr/pravilnici/natjecanja/11n-a03_croatia_prijave.pdf

Raven
10th May 2011, 06:45
Looks like small italian championship - Rossetti, Travaglia, Dallavilla, Longhi. Hard task for Solowow :) Iliev and Betti are also dangerous, new car won't help also.

mousti
10th May 2011, 13:33
Looks like small italian championship - Rossetti, Travaglia, Dallavilla, Longhi. Hard task for Solowow :) Iliev and Betti are also dangerous, new car won't help also.
I really hope that will get continued on other ERC rallies too! Such guys are a nice addition to a rally :)

Jarek Z
10th May 2011, 20:45
According to Rallyonline.pl Maciej Rzeznik will drive Subaru Impreza R4 in Croatia. So it seems that we will have debuts of two new rally cars in this event.

tolis
10th May 2011, 21:14
According to Rallyonline.pl Maciej Rzeznik will drive Subaru Impreza R4 in Croatia. So it seems that we will have debuts of two new rally cars in this event.
It's already written in the entry list!!! :)

Jarek Z
15th May 2011, 20:28
Solowow will not compete. His car is not ready.

tolis
18th May 2011, 09:12
Start of 38. Croatia Rally today. Itinerary: http://www.rally-erc.com/pdf/hr_itinerary.pdf

mousti
18th May 2011, 09:36
Solowow will not compete. His car is not ready.

Why he doesn't use his Fiesta? Same Fia class..

urabus-denoS2000
18th May 2011, 11:09
Why he doesn't use his Fiesta? Same Fia class..

Or Punto ? Or 207 ? :)

urabus-denoS2000
18th May 2011, 11:10
BTW I don't know where you found that itinerary , but the rally starts tomorrow ;)

tolis
18th May 2011, 11:12
BTW I don't know where you found that itinerary , but the rally starts tomorrow ;)
You are right: http://www.croatia-rally.com/itinerary.html

urabus-denoS2000
18th May 2011, 11:15
Also , quite large differences on those 2 itineraries ;)

PLuto
19th May 2011, 18:33
Results from shakedown of Croatia Rally + some photos - http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=12224

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/8d09064e621a588c9b88e77a7f5dba3d.jpg

PLuto
19th May 2011, 18:34
Results from Croatia Rally - http://results.rally-erc.com/2011/erc/croatia

mousti
19th May 2011, 19:21
Results from Croatia Rally - http://results.rally-erc.com/2011/erc/croatia
Luca still not touchable :D

Pluto u probably know the guys who do this service ? Do u know they have some result service who's better for mobile phones like BlackBerry?

Mirek
19th May 2011, 19:25
I think that Pluto makes results personally this time :)

[Madeira-Rally]
19th May 2011, 19:36
Travaglia already retired :( pitty for him and for the rally....

mousti
19th May 2011, 20:52
I think that Pluto makes results personally this time :)
Oh that's even better, then he can directly answer me, hope he has a positive answer. For Ypres especially would it be interesting.

Ucci
20th May 2011, 07:33
I was yesterday in Opatija, I managed to see two stages (Učka 1&Studeno1). Already from the eyes of the spectator was clear, that Rossetti will be the fastest. Ok, Longhi, Betti, Oleksowicz, Šebalj, Pulič...were very fast, but Rossetti was from another planet....Pitty for Travaglia, I spoke with him at the end of stage one, his Fabia had ''dead engine''.

PLuto
20th May 2011, 09:27
Luca still not touchable :D

Pluto u probably know the guys who do this service ? Do u know they have some result service who's better for mobile phones like BlackBerry?

Hi, there is only mobile version of ERC pages (when you access through phone, it switch automatically into mobile version). Results dont have mobile version yet, but we are working on it (for future).

PLuto
20th May 2011, 09:28
I was yesterday in Opatija, I managed to see two stages (Učka 1&Studeno1). Already from the eyes of the spectator was clear, that Rossetti will be the fastest. Ok, Longhi, Betti, Oleksowicz, Šebalj, Pulič...were very fast, but Rossetti was from another planet....Pitty for Travaglia, I spoke with him at the end of stage one, his Fabia had ''dead engine''.

Why you didnt arrived to service to visit us?

[Madeira-Rally]
20th May 2011, 09:41
Video from leg one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D99M1DuLCJQ

Ucci
20th May 2011, 10:24
Why you didnt arrived to service to visit us?
If I wolud know that one of our members is in Rijeka, I would definitely come. Pitty, I hope next time we will meet each other....What about Rally della Marca next weekend in north Italy (TRA)??

PLuto
20th May 2011, 12:11
TRA isnt championship which is interesting for me ;)

Sulland
20th May 2011, 12:34
20 teams is not very many in what should have been a layer 2 event, just under WRC !
Too bad it is like this.

Raven
20th May 2011, 13:38
20 teams is not very many in what should have been a layer 2 event, just under WRC !
Too bad it is like this.
You probably missed something.

I heard somewhere that tomorrow is the end of the world and I didn't believe... But now everything has changed... Tomorrow will never come... This is the final sign... I almost can hear four horseman of apocalypse... Ruta won SS in ERC... http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/images/icons/eek.gifhttp://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/images/icons/eek.gifhttp://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/images/icons/eek.gif

Filip
20th May 2011, 13:43
:D

Wim_Impreza
20th May 2011, 13:59
Why is the Croatian championship running apart from the ERC Rally? It should be much better if they are running in the ERC rally, just as they did in the past years.

PLuto
20th May 2011, 14:01
It should be better. Only one difference is, that national championship paid lower entry fee...

Mirek
20th May 2011, 14:06
20 teams is not very many in what should have been a layer 2 event, just under WRC !
Too bad it is like this.

It would be more than great if 20 teams do ERC regularly. We don't have 20 regular teams in any international championship in the moment :(

Mirek
20th May 2011, 14:23
I heard somewhere that tomorrow is the end of the world and I didn't believe... But now everything has changed... Tomorrow will never come... This is the final sign... I almost can hear four horseman of apocalypse... Ruta won SS in ERC... http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/images/icons/eek.gifhttp://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/images/icons/eek.gifhttp://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/images/icons/eek.gif

I can't believe my eyes too. Now let's pray for Anthony Fatman. I was hoping that his good pace from last weekend wasn't caused only by simple fact he was driving around his house...

Jarek Z
20th May 2011, 14:30
20 teams is not very many in what should have been a layer 2 event, just under WRC !
Too bad it is like this.

It's not like that. The entry list counts over 60 crews, but only half of them compete in ERC, the rest does only Croatian championship.
Here is the full entry list:
http://www.rally-erc.com/pdf/hr_entrylist.pdf

I still can't recover from the shocking results of SS7! :O

mousti
20th May 2011, 16:55
Hi, there is only mobile version of ERC pages (when you access through phone, it switch automatically into mobile version). Results dont have mobile version yet, but we are working on it (for future).
Thanks for the answer Pluto! Hope it comes in the future like u said your service is a fast and accurate one to follow!

PLuto
20th May 2011, 17:31
In few minutes I am leaving service to see city super special stage in Rijeka.

Tom206wrc
20th May 2011, 17:47
Very good job Luca Betti :)

I was really fearing no Pug on podium fight seeing the number of well driven Fabias(+ the Abarth) :D

Jarek Z
20th May 2011, 22:39
Short video from Oleksowicz's test sessions before Rally Croatia:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9BJ_1B0aFE

Jarek Z
20th May 2011, 22:41
And a video from Leg 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D99M1DuLCJQ

[Madeira-Rally]
21st May 2011, 10:01
Also Dallavila is out of the rally due to turbo problems..

PLuto
21st May 2011, 10:07
He retired after last stage yesterday, mechanics tolds it is engine failure.

PLuto
21st May 2011, 10:08
Just now starts service before first stage today.

[Madeira-Rally]
21st May 2011, 11:44
Stage victory for Oleksowicz :)

PLuto
21st May 2011, 11:58
Weather starts to change. Part of SS 13 is damp, in Rijeka are clouds and it looks that rain will start soon.

Jarek Z
21st May 2011, 12:26
]Stage victory for Oleksowicz :)

Already yesterday Oleksowicz made some good stage times, but I didn't expect him to win any stage! Longhi can only smell the fumes from Oleksowicz's exhaust today ;)

[Madeira-Rally]
21st May 2011, 12:38
Yes... before the rally I couldn't expect this "poor" performance from Longhi... after he left Subaru he didn't got any (or almost any) good result...

PLuto
21st May 2011, 13:43
Cars just left service before last section. On SS 14 first 6 kms are wet, other parts damp and dry. On SS 15 just started the rain. Mos of crews went with slicks on car and cutted or rain as spare, only Longhi, Patrucco and Bossalini have wet tyres on a car (I cannot see Ruta, Rzeznik and Turk, they are in different service.

Jarek Z
21st May 2011, 13:47
]Yes... before the rally I couldn't expect this "poor" performance from Longhi... after he left Subaru he didn't got any (or almost any) good result...

Both Longhi and Dallavilla seem to be getting old already... Opposite to Andreucci and Travaglia, who are also the same age, but still damn quick!

PLuto
21st May 2011, 13:52
Heavy rain starts on SS 15

RS
21st May 2011, 14:18
What is Rossetti's ERC programme for this year?

mousti
21st May 2011, 14:26
Everything what the budget allows.

Mirek
21st May 2011, 14:39
Longhi crashed and blocked the road of SS14.

PLuto
21st May 2011, 15:12
Piero Longhi arrived to service (photos - http://forum.autosport.cz/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=585&p=50104#p50104 )

[Madeira-Rally]
21st May 2011, 17:01
At Mille Miglia podium Luca said that he had no specif programme for ERC this year... only Mille Miglia and Croatia... then... depending on the results and budget he would to try to do some more events...

Ucci
21st May 2011, 17:27
Congrats to Rossetti !! Easy victory in Croatia, I'm a bit disappointed over Longhi's pace, I expected more from him. Today he again gambled (as previous weekend on rally Saturnus) with tyre choice in wet, and he lost again...even succeeded to damage Fabia.....
Not to forget-our R.Turk won 2WD class, well done Rok !!!

PLuto
21st May 2011, 18:35
Here are interviews with drivers from finish: http://www.youtube.com/AutoSportCZ

urabus-denoS2000
21st May 2011, 19:31
I back home in Zagreb after 3 days of great rallying . I was surprised by so many . First of all , Oleksowicz was very fast . He and Longhi had a fight during the whole rally , 6 seconds after SS13 , but then Longhi crashed and the fight was over . Oleksowicz drove so slowly on the last stage , clear cruise mode :) Rossetti , no comment , he is just a class above everyone else . Also , a big surprise was Ruta . From what I heard from our Polish friends , I expected nothing of him , but he was very fast on some places . On a famous jump at SS Lupoglav , I think his was one of the longest jumps . So maybe he likes these Medditeranean types of roads :) Also compliments to Rok Turk , very fast and consistent run . The biggest dissapointnment for me is Longhi . Maybe I expected too much but he is a name in European rallying ... Illiev was very good , can't wait to see how he goes in his home event . I was also dissapointed by Tluštak , but PLuto explained to me some factors on a beer . THEN the waitress closed the pub and made us go away so we had to find another one . We settled , drinked a nice lemon beer and continued the discussion . PLuto , when I come to Zlin , please show me what real beer is ;)

Wait a few days for a video from AŠ Remetinec ... I think it will be very good ;)

Jarek Z
22nd May 2011, 20:41
Thanks for sharing your impressions from the rally. I'm a little surprised that you liked Iliev's performance. I was very disappointed with him. 4th place doesn't look bad, but if you look at the gap of over 4 minutes at the finish line it's a disappointment. He is a driver that used to win ERC rallies... But of course, Longhi was even bigger disappointment... On the other hand, Rossetti was great as always! :)

urabus-denoS2000
22nd May 2011, 21:48
Well , since there were not big fights with the exception of Longhi and Oleksowicz , maybe he didn't push as he could ;)

Here are some pics from my friend and one mine , of the most attractive driver ;)

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/352/24790018858397187841625.jpg


http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/9640/24993018858382787481625.jpg


http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/8303/dsc00596qi.jpg

Raven
23rd May 2011, 10:24
Also , a big surprise was Ruta . From what I heard from our Polish friends , I expected nothing of him , but he was very fast on some places . On a famous jump at SS Lupoglav , I think his was one of the longest jumps
In Poland Ruta is known of three things:
1) famous jump on Barborka Rally when his Golf broke in half (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JwJ2S6nFyU) - that was surprisingly the beginning of his "career",
2) making no progress,
3) always driving the best (or almost the best) cars.
Maybe he started to make point nr 2 a little bit out of date? But I'd rather think of unexplained better performance.

Oleksowicz really starts to improve, but he is still unsteady. Sometimes quite fast and sometimes slow as few years ago.

urabus-denoS2000
23rd May 2011, 13:30
Oleksowicz really starts to improve, but he is still unsteady. Sometimes quite fast and sometimes slow as few years ago.

Yes , exactly . Last year he was very slow , this year quite the opposite . I think he is very fast when the conditions are ideal . As soon as rain started , he was again slow . Luckily for him it was only the last stage

Jarek Z
23rd May 2011, 22:37
So Rossetti won the rally, but who won the Miss Rally Croatia competition? Is it miss number 7? ;)

http://www.rally-erc.com/foto/gallery/155/Croatia_08.jpg

PLuto
23rd May 2011, 23:54
I really dont know who was the winner, but I dont think it is so important ;)

http://www.rally-erc.com/foto/gallery/155/Croatia_49.jpg

Hartusvuori
24th May 2011, 06:36
^ Rally Croatia's Leg 1, Leg 2, Leg 3, Leg 4, Leg 5, ...., Leg 13, Leg 14 and Leg 15.

PLuto
24th May 2011, 10:31
I think you forgot Leg 16 :)

pucky54
24th May 2011, 12:20
So Rossetti won the rally, but who won the Miss Rally Croatia competition? Is it miss number 7? ;)

Come on guys, a little bit more concentration ;) Thats definately No 8 on the photo :D :D :D

Raven
24th May 2011, 12:23
Oleksowicz's onboard showing Longhi's Fabia after crash and the action (including Iliev) of removing it from the road:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CI5lWHOJkQ4

pucky54
24th May 2011, 12:36
So Rossetti won the rally, but who won the Miss Rally Croatia competition? Is it miss number 7? ;)

I don't know who won, but this is definately No 5, a little bit more concentration please :D :D :D

mousti
24th May 2011, 12:48
Oleksowicz's onboard showing Longhi's Fabia after crash and the action (including Iliev) of removing it from the road:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CI5lWHOJkQ4
And Longhi couldn't complete the stage then? Or am I wrong?

Btw Pluto props for the interviews! Now I can have more sight on entries for Ypres, no Longhi :( . Anything known of Dallavilla?

pucky54
24th May 2011, 12:49
Here we have No 7 ;)

<img>http://www.croatia-rally.com/images/photogallery2011/35_turk.jpg</img>

PLuto
24th May 2011, 17:54
I think Dallavilla will be the same.

OldF
24th May 2011, 18:41
^ Rally Croatia's Leg 1, Leg 2, Leg 3, Leg 4, Leg 5, ...., Leg 13, Leg 14 and Leg 15.

16 legs. That’s a long rally. With two legs per day, the “rally” will last eight days. Wow! :D

dimviii
24th May 2011, 18:50
16 legs. That’s a long rally. With two legs per day, the “rally” will last eight days. Wow! :D

Yoy can do ''four legs'' per day if you are in a hurry. :p :

OldF
24th May 2011, 19:46
Yoy can do ''four legs'' per day if you are in a hurry. :p :

Two per day would be OK for me. ;)

Jarek Z
24th May 2011, 20:13
Oleksowicz's onboard showing Longhi's Fabia after crash and the action (including Iliev) of removing it from the road:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CI5lWHOJkQ4

Bad tactics from Longhi. The old rally rule says, that when you go off rhe road, you should do it in a place where spectators are present, so that they can put your car back on the road ;)
I thought that such an old fox as Longhi should know about it? ;)

Barreis
24th May 2011, 20:25
Finally Finns like something about Croatia. :D

mousti
24th May 2011, 20:48
Bad tactics from Longhi. The old rally rule says, that when you go off rhe road, you should do it in a place where spectators are present, so that they can put your car back on the road ;)
I thought that such an old fox as Longhi should know about it? ;)
The spectators got replaced by drivers and still he couldn't finish? Was there so much damage..

PLuto
24th May 2011, 21:42
He finished the stage, but he wasnt going to next stage, but directly to service. He lost too much time...

Jarek Z
24th May 2011, 21:50
Is it something on my eyes or are those girls wearing the official ERC logo on their shirts? Finally FIA made something right about ERC :D

http://www.rally-erc.com/foto/gallery/155/Croatia_04.jpg

mousti
24th May 2011, 21:50
Okay that's understandable..

Barreis
24th May 2011, 22:02
Few days ago red in daily newspaper that in Croatia every 20th kid is not from the father that lives with. Whores all around. :D
Article:
http://www.vecernji.hr/vijesti/svaki-20-testirani-tata-hrvatskoj-nije-bioloski-otac-clanak-289814

Raven
25th May 2011, 08:38
Short clip of Oleksowicz in Croatia. I must say his style was nice to watch! :)

http://www.rsmp.info/index.php?option=com_hwdvideoshare&task=viewvideo&Itemid=20&video_id=750&lang=pl

tolis
25th May 2011, 20:59
Entry List of round 3, Boshporus Rally, just published:
http://www.bosphorusrally.com/images/haberler/haber_dokumanlari/EntryList_25052011.pdf
It seems interesting with 9 S2000, one R4 and 13 foreign crews.

Wim_Impreza
26th May 2011, 07:36
That is a much better entry list than last year for this rally. :)

Tom206wrc
26th May 2011, 14:25
So Peugeot Turkey stopped rallying, seeing Cetinkaya and Cukurak in Grande Punto S2000 at Bosphorus rally :confused:

[Madeira-Rally]
26th May 2011, 15:22
It's nice to see that Travaglia will go on with is min ERC programme. I was afraid... because of his retirement in Croatia...

mousti
26th May 2011, 16:45
]It's nice to see that Travaglia will go on with is min ERC programme. I was afraid... because of his retirement in Croatia...
Me too, I think his the top favorite to win this.

Anyone know what Burçu is going to do after Bosphurus?

Jarek Z
26th May 2011, 21:56
What is Rossetti's ERC programme for this year?

Rossetti said that he will most probably miss Bosphorus and Ypres, but wants to return in Bulgaria and on Madeira. He hasn't yet completed the whole budget for those events.

In the meantime Oleksowicz's father sent his entry to ERC. Unfortunately, he is even slower than Fontana's father :)

mousti
26th May 2011, 23:10
Rossetti said that he will most probably miss Bosphorus and Ypres, but wants to return in Bulgaria and on Madeira. He hasn't yet completed the whole budget for those events.

In the meantime Oleksowicz's father sent his entry to ERC. Unfortunately, he is even slower than Fontana's father :)
Yep probably but although he'll do his best for Ypres it's still a maybe and for him it's one of his favorite events, but yeah budget.

Oleks father mmm.. What car and from when he'll pick in? Not Ypres but Bulgaria? :-/

Jarek Z
27th May 2011, 08:39
As far as Oleks' father is concerned, in Poland he mostly drives Subaru, but he entered Bosphorus with Mitsubishi.

mousti
27th May 2011, 13:18
As far as Oleks' father is concerned, in Poland he mostly drives Subaru, but he entered Bosphorus with Mitsubishi.
Thanks maybe he'll enter Ypres then too.

About Cetinkaya: Burcu Cetinkaya (https://www.facebook.com/bbcetinkaya) First Bosphorus Rally. After being ditched by Peugeot last minute and now trying to survive again. We go one day at a time :)

Tom206wrc
27th May 2011, 17:27
Rossetti said that he will most probably miss Bosphorus and Ypres, but wants to return in Bulgaria and on Madeira. He hasn't yet completed the whole budget for those events.

In the meantime Oleksowicz's father sent his entry to ERC. Unfortunately, he is even slower than Fontana's father :)



About Rox missing Bosphorus isnt'it the fact that there will be Targa Florio(CIR)the same week-end :confused:

mousti
27th May 2011, 20:40
Why is Tlustak starting with a Punto in Turkey?

Mirek
27th May 2011, 20:48
He has no gravel suspension so he decided to rent local car.

tolis
27th May 2011, 21:31
He has no gravel suspension so he decided to rent local car.
Last year, he started in gravel ELPA Rally in his Skoda Fabia, though.

Mirek
27th May 2011, 21:31
No, that wasn't his car. It was rented from JM Racing ;)

tolis
27th May 2011, 21:43
No, that wasn't his car. It was rented from JM Racing ;)
OK, you are right Mirek! I forgot that, sorry!!!

GL Media Pro
27th May 2011, 22:26
Schedule of ERC TV Magazine from Croatia RallyFor the second round of European Rally Championship 2011, Ellegy is ready to produce the second episode of "ERC TV Magazine", from Rijeka, Croatia.

TV Schedule - 38° CROATIA RALLY by Ellegy

MotorsTV (Europe):
- Friday May 27 at 22:31, 06:35
- Saturday May 28 at 8:30, 12:36, 22:32
- Sunday May 29 at 19:04, 22:57
- Monday May 30 at 11:45

MotorsTV (UK):
- Friday May 27 at 22:35, 05:32
- Saturday May 28 at 10:04, 21:32
- Sunday May 29 at 18:56, 01:12
- Monday May 30 at 10:35

MotorsTV (France):
- Friday May 27 at 22:03
- Sunday May 29 at 09:49, 02:04
- Monday May 30 at 19:47
- Tuesday May 31 at 05:44
- Thursday June 2 at 11:53, 01:13

Primocanale Sky 595 (Italy):
- Friday May 27 at 20:00 and 22:30

PrimocanaleSport (DDT-Liguria) and Primocanale.it (Simul Cast):
- Thursday May 26 at 19:30

From Saturday May 28 the Magazine will be online in HD on Ellegy.com and Rally-ERC.com.

mousti
27th May 2011, 22:38
He has no gravel suspension so he decided to rent local car.
Thank u Mirek, do u know why Rzeznik is driving lately with the IX and not the Fabia? Obvious for Turkey but Croatia? Budget?

Mirek
27th May 2011, 22:43
Rzeznik wanted to try R4. It's not budget issue. He said after Croatia that he would return to S2000 as it's better.

tolis
27th May 2011, 23:16
Rzeznik wanted to try R4. It's not budget issue. He said after Croatia that he would return to S2000 as it's better.
Maybe in a 207 S2000?

mousti
28th May 2011, 10:34
Rzeznik wanted to try R4. It's not budget issue. He said after Croatia that he would return to S2000 as it's better.
Okay then Ypres he'll be back in (Fabia) S2000. I hope he comes :o

Jarek Z
28th May 2011, 11:36
I don't know what car Rzeznik will drive in the next ERC rounds, but please don't think that the Subaru he drove in Croatia was a real R4 car. It was just a little lighter, but it didn't have the full R4 kit. He said that he loved the Croatia Rally, but it would have been better to drive a Super 2000 car on those stages. Usually he drives Fabia S2000 (http://www.rallyonline.pl/ft.php?idg=5264&pg_[go]=2) so maybe he will return to this car.

PLuto
28th May 2011, 12:12
Rzeznik will not continue with Fabia...

tolis
28th May 2011, 12:30
Rzeznik will not continue with Fabia...
So, it's a 207 S2000!!! It'll make Tom even happier!!!

Raven
28th May 2011, 12:34
Rzeznik will not continue with Fabia...

What´s the reason? If not money, maybe the ´quality´ of JM?

PLuto
28th May 2011, 12:39
;) I think he will continue with Tagai instead of JM.

mousti
28th May 2011, 20:29
I'm okay with everything if he starts in Ypres I'll be very happy :D

Barreis
28th May 2011, 20:36
Rent companies are doing really well.

GL Media Pro
30th May 2011, 09:19
Online the HD TV Magazine of European Rally Championship 2011 "38. Croatia Rally 2011" on the new Web TV Channel of ERC:
http://www.ellegy.com/ "FIA ERC Web Channel TV" or http://erc.ellegy.tv/ FIA European Rally Championship

[Madeira-Rally]
30th May 2011, 13:14
Online the HD TV Magazine of European Rally Championship 2011 "38. Croatia Rally 2011" on the new Web TV Channel of ERC:
http://www.ellegy.com/ "FIA ERC Web Channel TV" or http://erc.ellegy.tv/ FIA European Rally Championship

As always, great job Luca!!! Congratulations.

GL Media Pro
30th May 2011, 15:31
]As always, great job Luca!!! Congratulations.
Many thanks Paulo!!!

urabus-denoS2000
30th May 2011, 18:05
Wow , a fantastic video :)

PLuto
31st May 2011, 03:38
Travaglia in Turkey with Fiesta.

[Madeira-Rally]
31st May 2011, 08:12
Travaglia in Turkey with Fiesta.

That's really great!

Wim_Impreza
31st May 2011, 08:18
I don't think that is really great. He is switching cars too much after some months in the season the last years. He had a nice 3rd place with the Fabia in the 1000 Miglia.

[Madeira-Rally]
31st May 2011, 09:15
It's better than not entering the rally.... :)

mousti
31st May 2011, 11:44
Indeed, maybe the engine is not replaced in the Fabia already. I think if he has good result here, he probably start in Ypres was already in his program when it came out to the press.