SAIRC - Round 7 - Swartland Rally

[Bruce D]

Swartland Rally Event Info
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24-25 September 2010
South African Internet Rally Championship - Round 7

Rules
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Open to S2000, N4-N1 and A7-A5 cars only (No WRC cars!)
Tyre choice is free for all stages
Pacenotes - Audio only, not visual
One SuperRally per leg, 3min penalty for each SuperRally used.

Stages
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Day 1
SS1 - Fraizer Wells (USA) - Mod: Normal - Weather: bad - 5.0km
SS2 - Autiovaara II (Finland) - Mod: Gravel - Weather: bad - 6.1km
SS3 - Mustaselka (Finland) - Mod: Gravel - Weather: Bad - 7.9km

Day 2
SS4 - Noiker II (Japan) - Mod: Normal - Weather: Clear - 13.7km
SS5 - Autiovaara (Finland) - Mod: Gravel - Weather: Clear - 6.1km
SS6 - Mustaselka II (Finland) - Mod: Gravel - Weather: Clear - 7.7km


Total Distance - 46.5km

Entries
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Send your entries to BruceD by PM or by email to [email:2zslz4qm]rbrmfcup@gmail.com[/email:2zslz4qm] Entry info

as follows: Name, Country, Team, Car.

Submitting times
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Start each stage using the "RSRBR2009" button under the "play alone" section, do

your stage. The time will be recorded in the window at the bottom of RsCenter.

If its not recorded, you did something wrong. Use "public sessions" tab and "Go"

button for BTB stages.

Once you have completed the stages you wish to do, select the File menu and

click on "Save times" The times are saved to your RBR directory under the folder

"MyTimes". Once you have done all the stages, send all your html files to

[email:2zslz4qm]rbrmfcup@gmail.com[/email:2zslz4qm] to be scored. Please note that more than 1 html file can be

submitted so you don't have to do all the stages at one time.

Entries open immediately. Rally and entries close at midnight Tuesday 28th

September 2010

[lcd]

I'll jumb In a Peugeot 207 S2000 for this one. ;)

[pettersolberg29]

I may have a problem with this one as I cannot find a gravel mod for Finland. I'll keep looking, and do the other two while I'm waiting!

[Bruce D]

Yeah I wish I knew where they were hiding nowadays. I think the one RBR mod on BHMotorsport had it but when I looked I couldn't find it.

[tannat]

Think I'll hop in the Lada for this one... :D

[Bruce D]

Entry list so far based on entries here, there and everywhere...

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[Macd]

Think i'll use an N12 subaru for this one.

[tannat]

Entry list so far based on entries here, there and everywhere...

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A decent field for a change....

Where is ctbr?

[52Paddy]

I'm in at Dark Blue Drum Rallysport as per usual. Not sure what my mount will be as of yet.

[tannat]

I'm in at Dark Blue Drum Rallysport as per usual. Not sure what my mount will be as of yet.

Gotta get our 2nd place back in teams. Paddy :p

[52Paddy]

Gotta get our 2nd place back in teams. Paddy :p

Hopefully my Formula 2 form will transfer :up:

[pettersolberg29]

I've done the two stages I can do, and absolutely floored it because they may be the only two I can actually do. Frazier Wells was great - managed to go full throttle for 46 seconds near the beginning of the stage! Noiker 2 was good too - although I had never done Noiker 2 before so missed a junction at one point. Also, for some odd reason at 2 corners I stalled the engine and had a couple of seconds in neutral at 0mph.

If I can't find the gravel mod for Finland, then I'll just do the stages as snow stages for fun and let Bruce decide what to do with the results!

[Bruce D]

I'll keep looking for it.

[NeverKnow]

I've tried to find this mod but unfortunately all links, which are pointing to the mod itself, are dead or people advise getting RSRBR instead.

[Bruce D]

I've had a look at rbr-online.it and their mod is way smaller to download and they run the stages in gravel so there must be some way with their system. Maybe look into that one PS29?

[pettersolberg29]

Cheers guys. I'll have a look.

[lcd]

Well, this one was really Intense. :s hock:
Day 1 was quite frustrating, because of rain and mud, but drove with
care and finished without any unpleasant surprises.
Day 2 was expected much better, but unfortunatelly some rolls
towards the end of NoikerII and MustaselkaII, probably cost me
some precious seconds...As I said, It was Intense, but a lot of fun! :up:

Post some photos later on!

P.S. Just out of curiosity: ps29, did you notice any problems, with top speed of Peugeot 207???
Couldn't get over 175 km/h...

[tannat]

P.S. Just out of curiosity: ps29, did you notice any problems, with top speed of Peugeot 207???
Couldn't get over 175 km/h...

I think that is in the region of top speed for all S2000s

The lada did about 175 with the longest gearing on the last rally..

N4s will get 205 kph...

[pettersolberg29]

P.S. Just out of curiosity: ps29, did you notice any problems, with top speed of Peugeot 207???
Couldn't get over 175 km/h...

As tannat says, I think that's about right. I think I got to about 180km/h but that was downhill and after 25s of straight throttle. It did seem very slow though once it had reached top speed - I wanted to push it faster so it was frustrating when it reached top speed.

[lcd]

Ok thanks! Thought It was some kind of a physics bug... :p

[lcd]

Time for some highlights!

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[pettersolberg29]

They're great screenshots.

[lcd]

Thanks! Glad you like them! ;)

[Bruce D]

About the top speeds, that is accurate. On the Mountain Trial Rally about 2 years ago they did speed trapping of the cars and the Polos were bouncing off the rev limiter at 171km/h

[lcd]

... the Polos were bouncing off the rev limiter at 171km/h

Really hate the sound of that limiter! :D

[Bruce D]

In the game yeah, but in real life it's pretty cool.

[tannat]

Funny seeing Africans using snowmobiles for personal transport :p

[Bruce D]

Dude what???

[Macd]

Dude what???

I would assume he means on the Finnish stages.

[Bruce D]

Ah yes. Well it does depend on how much beer you had before...

Can't even think where the heck you could BUY a snowmobile in SA. hehe

[Macd]

Can I change my entry to n14 urt? no idea why I said n12 :S

[Macd]

Can I change to a N14 URT? No idea why I put N12 :S

-Edit: Clearly i've had too much beer ... :dozey:

[Bruce D]

Sure no problemo...

[Macd]

First day done. Really loving this car, used it on the last cup round as a recce car but its good at being a rally car too :P

[pettersolberg29]

Can't find the mod, and going to Uni tomorrow so won't be able to do this rally. I have sent my two gravel times to Bruce just for fun though. I will be back for Monte!

[NeverKnow]

Did the rally today and I have sent in the times. It was nice rally with some flowing stages and lot of sideways action. I did some small driving mistakes and I had one off.

Day one was alright with no major incidents but few mistakes here and there.

Day two started well but I misjudged a corner on SS4 and went offroading. Luckily didn't stall the engine and got going again. The corner itself was long 5th gear corner which was tightening. I overcorrected on initial entry and understeered off the road.

On the next two stages I didn't made any mistakes but I don't know what went wrong because I was a lot faster on my practise runs.

Overall I am happy I finished. I am not making any predictions and will wait for the results.

Some pictures (http://s274.photobucket.com/albums/jj267/t6nns/Swartland%20Rally/) from my rally and onboard from SS3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z36nbCpGu-U).

[Bruce D]

Completed my rally on Thursday night. First proper rally back for a while now, and I'm quite happy with the pace. I had 3 rolls in the event so not perfect but looking at the times against the others who have submitted I'm quite impressed. Maybe a long break did me good! It felt good in the stages and I was listening well to the notes. Good warmup for the MF Cup.

2 things:

1) I'm not quite sure what to do about pettersolberg29 on this event, whether to give him a superrally for all the stages he missed, the slowest time for them, give him the percentage of time he was ahead/behind people on each stage to create a false stage time (which I don't believe is the fairest option) or give him a DNF?

2) Happy birthday NeverKnow! =D

[pettersolberg29]

I don't mind if you give me either a DNF or a 3 min penalty for each stage I missed just so I get points for coming last. Its up to you. I did the two gravel stages just for fun and to compare my times, and I came in late to the SAIRC so have no chance to win it so dont worry about my times.

[52Paddy]

I did a run of the stages in a 207 S2000. I'm rushing out the door now so it was very half-hearted. I hope to get a few more attempts in before the deadline. If I don't find time, at least I have something to submit :)

[lcd]

A super rally penalty Is the most fair option! Sorry ps29! ;)

[NeverKnow]

I think superally is a fair option. If we'd put DNF/DNS for the rest of the stages, then it wouldn't be possible for ps29 to run SS4. Just my take on the situation. :)
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2) Happy birthday NeverKnow! =D
Thanks mate!

[pettersolberg29]

A super rally penalty Is the most fair option! Sorry ps29! ;)

Don't worry - I agree.

[52Paddy]

I finished my rally. I decided to drive the VW Polo for this round. It's a nimble little car around narrow stages like these ones and there's enough grunt for the long stretches on Noiker (perhaps just a little lacking on Frazier Wells). I had a good drive mostly. A late pacenote at 7.7kms into Noiker made me overshoot a 90 right despite telling myself not to make that mistake during recce. I also had a spin on Autiovaara. Aside from some minor glitches here and there, I've nothing more to report so hope for a decent finishing position this time around :up:

[pettersolberg29]

A late pacenote at 7.7kms into Noiker made me overshoot a 90 right despite telling myself not to make that mistake during recce.

SAME! I made sure I wasn't gonna miss that, but the pacenote is so late I shot past it and had to do a 180 to get back. In my recce I had a lot of practise missing that corner so managed to spin and return to the stage quickly! ;)

[Bruce D]

Just waiting for times from Tannat (who's asked for an extension) and Paul, who should be giving his in today.

Paddy, some very impressive stage times once again, maybe the Polo suits you well here.

Crazy stuff on SS2 so far, only 0.64sec covering the top 4 drivers!

[tannat]

Just submitted my times (thanks for extension, Bruce).

When my sick daughter woke at 3:40am and said she wanted to get up I thought my rally was doomed. Luckily with a little bit of rocking and some comforting from Daddy and she went back to sleep.

A cautious rally for me. I know I could have gone faster everywhere, but was still suffering the effects of some rum the prior evening....

My some bloopers on Noiker. Missed the bad turn call at that 90 left (called 90 right), and side bumped a tree in the final 2k of the stage.

Got a bit overexuberant on Musta on day 2 and had a spin. So easy to get drawn in by this stage in gravel mode. It is probably my favorite RBR stage.

Really just hoping for a normal finish for me.... :D

[tannat]

Bruce-this is the penultimate round of the SAIRC, correct?

[Bruce D]

Correct, just the Gauteng Rally to go now. But MF Cup starts next week

[Bruce D]

FINAL RESULTS

Quite a rally this one, lead changes up until the long SS4 and the winner never won a stage all rally, but still won by over a minute! Great drive by NeverKnow, and a special mention to Paddy again, definately a big improvement.

In the championships the drivers title is wide open again, GRACE Motorsport have wrapped up the teams championship, VW now lead the manufacturers and Paul has won the S2000 class (NeverKnow was already N4 champion). Results book will be emailed out later today.

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[Bruce D]

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[52Paddy]

Happy with that rally now. Although I was a minute and a half down on Neverknow, it's nice to see that the rest of the field was covered by only a few seconds. Hopefully I can get past ctbr in the driver's standings after the final round.

[tannat]

Nice drive by our teammate :up:

11 clicks out of second-ARRRRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!! All due to my errors on Noiker...

Congrats to Neverknow for the first N4 victory this season :up:


Looks as if I'll be settling for fourth in drivers and third for teams.

[52Paddy]

Nice drive by our teammate :up:

Sound man. Also, well done on your stage win :up:

I just looked through the results book there (thanks Bruce) and noticed that after intermediate 2, I was leading SS2 by a few seconds. I wonder what threw me back in the final sector :(

[Bruce D]

That 2nd stage was nuts. Almost like you all sat at the end of the stage and waited for th clock to tick over the 4min! :p

[lcd]

This one was a good rally, for almost all competitors!
2nd place, was a very pleasant surprise though! ;)

[tannat]

Sound man. Also, well done on your stage win :up:

I just looked through the results book there (thanks Bruce) and noticed that after intermediate 2, I was leading SS2 by a few seconds. I wonder what threw me back in the final sector :(

Paddy you BLITZED (!!!!!!) that first sector! :up:

[pettersolberg29]

The splits are incredible on SS2 - wish I had a go too! You're right Paddy - leading by a bunch of seconds at SS2 but losing them in a small part?

Happy myself to win the two stages I did - glad I finally conquered Noiker as that stage has been my downfall in the past.
Look forward to Monte!

[NeverKnow]

I'm happy with the win, my first in SAIRC and thanks to that I have a chance in the SAIRC championship again. Last round of the season promises to become very interesting.

[Bruce D]

Yeah I was chatting to Paul yesterday afternoon and he was not happy that he'd had a bad event. He said he'd tried to drive for points on this one and wound up losing tons of time instead cos we all went a bit bonkers on this one.

As for Paddy losing time on the last sector, could have been just running wide or the tyres going out of their optimum temperature (don't forget thats a factor in this game). Option B sounds the most logical cos sounds like his tyres were up to temp faster than the rest. Still, you have to drive it to get the time, so a brilliant run. I was quite surprised by my last stage time too. Good event again. Without the 3 rolls this might have been a podium.

[52Paddy]

or the tyres going out of their optimum temperature (don't forget thats a factor in this game). Option B sounds the most logical cos sounds like his tyres were up to temp faster than the rest.

Wow, I never realised that :eek: I must keep that in mind for future rallies.

[Bruce D]

Yeah it's in the game. Although I do find the Polo fairly consistent I have found stages where the tyres "go off" near the end or only start working properly.

[tannat]

Related note:

I wish there was telemetry for this game...

[Sophie Hart]

The overall thrill and charisma of Swartland is unmatchable. I wish if I could become the contender of this magnificent racing gala. I watched the latest clips and videos and found it really interesting.

[Bruce D]

You mean the real life event or this simulation event Sophie?