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Eki
9th August 2010, 14:47
According to a study by universities of Toronto and Berkley, the rich are more greedy than the poor:

http://www.rotman.utoronto.ca/facbios/file/Piff%20Kraus%20C%C3%B4t%C3%A9%20Cheng%20Keltner%20 JPSP%20in%20press.pdf

No sh!t Sherlock, how do you think they became rich or stay rich if they weren't greedy? Sheer luck?

anthonyvop
9th August 2010, 15:00
According to a study by universities of Toronto and Berkley, the rich are more greedy than the poor:

http://www.rotman.utoronto.ca/facbios/file/Piff%20Kraus%20C%C3%B4t%C3%A9%20Cheng%20Keltner%20 JPSP%20in%20press.pdf

No sh!t Sherlock, how do you think they became rich or stay rich if they weren't greedy? Sheer luck?


One study from the "People's U of Berkley" disputes the facts and you swallow it hook, line and sinker. Why am I not surprised?

MrJan
9th August 2010, 15:17
Isn't Berkley a really rich area anywhoo?

anthonyvop
9th August 2010, 15:22
Isn't Berkley a really rich area anywhoo?

Berkley is the Limousine Liberal/White guilt capital of the USA.

Tazio
9th August 2010, 15:34
Isn't Berkley a really rich area anywhoo?As the bay area goes Berkley is a very poor area with roughly the same demographic as Oakland. The University of California at Berkley is a quite highly ranked scholastic institution of a group that is all very highly ranked. UCLA, UCSD, and UC Berkley, Santa Cruz, Merced, Davis, and Santa Barbara, are all excellent Universities.
USC or the University of Southern California is a very highly rated exclusive private University and it is right in the center of one of the worst Ghettos in the USA

Tazio
9th August 2010, 15:37
Berkley is the Limousine Liberal/White guilt capital of the USA.Attended by a huge plurality of Asians between 41 and 47% depending on who you believe. Get your head out of the 60's and 70's You don't have a clue what you are talking about! As usual :dozey:

gloomyDAY
9th August 2010, 17:49
For some reason, the link posted reminds me of this article (http://blogs.wsj.com/wealth/2010/08/05/us-economy-is-increasingly-tied-to-the-rich/?KEYWORDS=Robert+Frank), which discusses America's dependence on the rich. Yes, greedy people will always be wealthier, but the gap between rich and poor is getting increasingly broader.

I better read The Jungle again.


UCLA, UCSD, and UC Berkley, Santa Cruz, Merced, Davis, and Santa Barbara, are all excellent Universities.
You forgot UC Irvine. :D

Go ANTEATERS!

Mark in Oshawa
9th August 2010, 19:56
Attended by a huge plurality of Asians between 41 and 47% depending on who you believe. Get your head out of the 60's and 70's You don't have a clue what you are talking about! As usual :dozey:

Alas, it isn't the students writing this stuff tho Tazio, it is the 60's and 70's era white liberal type professors.....

IN any case, the Rich are not more greedy per se, it is that they are more driven to succeed. It is why socialism is a crock of manure. Everyone has different drives and different motivators. Some are not motivated at all, some are extremely motivated. You try to hold down the motivated to make the unmotivated and lazy look better, you end up with an equality of outcomes....where everyone is misreable...

The rich employ people too....something that that stupid survey conveniently ignores...

Easy Drifter
9th August 2010, 20:16
Basically another useless 'study' by University types with too much time on their hands trying to justify their tenure.
Some research and study of something useful to mankind would be too much work!

anthonyvop
9th August 2010, 20:46
Attended by a huge plurality of Asians between 41 and 47% depending on who you believe. Get your head out of the 60's and 70's You don't have a clue what you are talking about! As usual :dozey:


You are talking about UC Berkley. I am talking about Berkley including the school. As usual it is you who doesn't know what they are talking about.

BTW So Asians can't be Liberals?

Eki
9th August 2010, 20:51
BTW So Asians can't be Liberals?
Of course, they just aren't usually called "white".



Berkley is the Limousine Liberal/White guilt capital of the USA.

Tazio
9th August 2010, 21:03
Alas, it isn't the students writing this stuff tho Tazio, it is the 60's and 70's era white liberal type professors.....

IN any case, the Rich are not more greedy per se, it is that they are more driven to succeed. It is why socialism is a crock of manure. Everyone has different drives and different motivators. Some are not motivated at all, some are extremely motivated. You try to hold down the motivated to make the unmotivated and lazy look better, you end up with an equality of outcomes....where everyone is misreable...

The rich employ people too....something that that stupid survey conveniently ignores...I don't know where you got the idea that I thought the rich were greedy (BTW I haven't read the article yet). I do business in the Greater San Diego Area It is my profound experience that The people that are actually rich, especially those that come from old money are the easiest going and most generous people to deal with. Residents of Fairbanks Ranch, Rancho Santa Fe, and La Jolla are a joy to do business with. It's the people who only think that they are rich that are the real pain in the ass. They are the ones who believe that their time is more valuable to them than yours is to you! :confused: The one that have absolutely no problem bold face lying, saying that the terms of our contract is 60 days when the contract says plainly pay upon completion. The ones that conveniently have an emergency 5 minutes before their project is done. I was simply pointing out to someone from another country that Berkley is largely a low income city. My Brother teaches elementary school in Berkley.

Tazio
9th August 2010, 21:23
One study from the "People's U of Berkley" disputes the facts and you swallow it hook, line and sinker. Why am I not surprised?Tony Berkley is not a great Social Science, or Economics Institute. It never was. All the UC System Colleges have area's of specialzation. If you want to be an Oncologist you go to UCSD, or UCLA. If you want to be a veteranairian you got to UC Davis If you want to be a brilliant Mathematician, or Molecular Scientist you go to Berkley. A Lawyer go to UCLA


You forgot UC Irvine. :D

I left out the ones that don't have any special value :p :

Oh yes If you want to party your ass of at college in California go to Chico State! :s mokin:

Tazio
9th August 2010, 21:31
You are talking about UC Berkley. I am talking about Berkley including the school. As usual it is you who doesn't know what they are talking about.

BTW So Asians can't be Liberals?Berkley is Largely An African American Community! The same as Oakland right across the street!
If your looking for the liberals they are up in Napa and Sanoma.
Did everyone in the class get this because there is going to be a pop quiz :laugh:

anthonyvop
9th August 2010, 22:31
Berkley is Largely An African American Community! The same as Oakland right across the street!
If your looking for the liberals they are up in Napa and Sanoma.
Did everyone in the class get this because there is going to be a pop quiz :laugh:

Again? First Asians now African Americans? Is it that in your world only White, Anglo Saxons can be Liberals?

African Americans are among the most Liberal of Ethic groups in America.

BDunnell
9th August 2010, 23:07
African Americans are among the most Liberal of Ethic groups in America.

They may also be amongst the most liberal of ethnic groups in America, which I suspect is what you meant to write, rather than 'ethic'. Oh, and no need for the capitals on 'liberal' and 'ethnic' or 'ethic'. If you want to lecture the rest of us, at least get your grammar right. It's a better starting point.

Tazio
10th August 2010, 00:27
Again? First Asians now African Americans? Is it that in your world only White, Anglo Saxons can be Liberals?

African Americans are among the most Liberal of Ethic groups in America.If you want to try to tell me what the demographics are of this city, I suggest you go for a walk at night in Berkley or Oakland and you will see how liberally you get your white ass gang banged!
The first comment you made showed your hand. It is a losing one. Berkley is not what the name conjured up from watching "The Graduate" or old newsreels about the bay area liberalism!

Berkley is the Limousine Liberal/White guilt capital of the USA.Dead wrong! NOT IN THE 21ST CENTURY

Mark in Oshawa
10th August 2010, 00:40
I don't know where you got the idea that I thought the rich were greedy (BTW I haven't read the article yet). I do business in the Greater San Diego Area It is my profound experience that The people that are actually rich, especially those that come from old money are the easiest going and most generous people to deal with. Residents of Fairbanks Ranch, Rancho Santa Fe, and La Jolla are a joy to do business with. It's the people who only think that they are rich that are the real pain in the ass. They are the ones who believe that their time is more valuable to them than yours is to you! :confused: The one that have absolutely no problem bold face lying, saying that the terms of our contract is 60 days when the contract says plainly pay upon completion. The ones that conveniently have an emergency 5 minutes before their project is done. I was simply pointing out to someone from another country that Berkley is largely a low income city. My Brother teaches elementary school in Berkley.

Hey Taz, I am not disagreeing with you at all...I get where you are going.

I of the opinion even if the rich are greedy (and as you have pointed out, they are not any more than anyone else) so what? We all have motivation.....and those who don't, are worse for society than those who do...

Tazio
10th August 2010, 00:58
Hey Taz, I am not disagreeing with you at all...I get where you are going.

I of the opinion even if the rich are greedy (and as you have pointed out, they are not any more than anyone else) so what? We all have motivation.....and those who don't, are worse for society than those who do...Thank you for that Mark. I'm old enough to have the life experience, and have seen my home town turned into the best kept secret west of the Mississippi into another crap-hole tourism pimping whore.

anthonyvop
10th August 2010, 02:31
If you want to try to tell me what the demographics are of this city, I suggest you go for a walk at night in Berkley or Oakland and you will see how liberally you get your white ass gang banged!

You just keep on stepping in it don't you?
Now you assume that I am white and that I would be a victim of a gang rape by walking down the streets of Berkeley.
So besides racial stereotypes you venture into the world of homophobia.


The first comment you made showed your hand. It is a losing one. Berkley is not what the name conjured up from watching "The Graduate" or old newsreels about the bay area liberalism!
Dead wrong! NOT IN THE 21ST CENTURY


Hmmmmmm....Funny but the facts don't seem to back you up.


Berkeley racial makeup
* White alone - 61,117 (55.8%)
* Asian alone - 20,672 (18.9%)
* Hispanic - 14,162 (12.9%)
* Black alone - 8,381 (7.6%)
* Two or more races - 4,536 (4.1%)
* Other race alone - 389 (0.4%)
* American alone - 355 (0.3%)

Estimated median household income in 2008: $64,434 (it was $44,485 in 2000)
Berkeley: $64,434
California: $61,021


Barack Obama garnered 78.76% of the vote

Source: http://www.city-data.com/city/Berkeley-California.html

So a city that the majority is white, affluent and voted heavily for Obama isn't a limo-lib capital?

Hahahahaha

Tazio
10th August 2010, 05:12
You just keep on stepping in it don't you?
Now you assume that I am white and that I would be a victim of a gang rape by walking down the streets of Berkeley.
So besides racial stereotypes you venture into the world of homophobia.




Hmmmmmm....Funny but the facts don't seem to back you up.



Barack Obama garnered 78.76% of the vote

Source: http://www.city-data.com/city/Berkeley-California.html

So a city that the majority is white, affluent and voted heavily for Obama isn't a limo-lib capital?

Hahahahaha

Berkeley’s first homicide this year involved the fatal stabbing of a resident by a suspected gang member in February in West Berkeley. In the year’s second homicide, a resident was killed in a South Berkeley shooting June 3.

“Homicides and shootings can result from something as simple as a dispute or a dice game,” Kusmiss said, “We’re seeing more and more problems being solved with weapons rather than with words.”
http://uwire.com/2010/07/21/citys-third-homicide-raises-concerns-about-south-berkeley-violence/

Perhaps I overstated the scope of gang violence in Berkeley ;)
It is a huge problem is South Berkeley (where my brother teaches) which borders Oakland

BTW Gang Banging is not gang rape which is another older definition. It is violence perpetrated by gangs.(usually but not always between gangs)!

I know you are of Cuban extract.

BTW I don't know any family that makes $64.000 in California that can afford Limo Service.

55% is not a white community! $64.000 per year per family is hardly affluent