[CIR] 30º Rally del Ciocco

[Madeira]

Next weekend we will have on the road the first round of Italian championship.

30º Rally del Ciocco-(tarmac)

website: http://www.cioccosporting.it/home_2006/

Entry list:http://www.cioccosporting.it/ciocco_2007/elenco_iscritti.pdf

The return of Giandomenico Basso to the campionship. Only two S2000 on the entries, but lot of good drivers in action for sure.

[Tom206wrc]

I can't wait for thursday/friday !! :bounce:

[[Madeira-Rally]]

It's a shame that Travaglia didn't found a team for this year :(

Let's see what Gr N drivers can do against S2000... Gr N cars will run with 18 inches wheels and big brakes... theorically they will be much faster than last year...

Personally I really hope a nice race for Ago and Basso ;)

[Tom206wrc]

]It's a shame that Travaglia didn't found a team for this year :(
...




I've read on an italian forum that he would drive a Subaru Impreza GrN(Aimont??) on the IRC championship :confused:

[HaCo]

Let's see what Gr N drivers can do against S2000... Gr N cars will run with 18 inches wheels and big brakes... theorically they will be much faster than last year...

is that only for the Italian championship?

I'm looking forward to this event!!!

[[Madeira-Rally]]

I've read on an italian forum that he would drive a Subaru Impreza GrN(Aimont??) on the IRC championship :confused:

That would be fantastic.. but.. isn't he testing the new Civic R3 :s

[Madeira]

is that only for the Italian championship?

No, it was a measure made by FIA for all N4 cars, to diminish an eventual advantage of S2000 against N4 cars.

[Madeira]

]That would be fantastic.. but.. isn't he testing the new Civic R3 :s

Yes, but with the new Civic R3 probably could be Luca Betti, but only in Turkey Rally on IRC, but at the moment it is only a rumour!

[jure dvorsek]

I wen't last year to see this rally-a nice race, beautiful stages, Andreucci was last year unbeatable in his Punto S2000. This time story is different: Ucci drives N4 car, but he is on home terain, in front of home crowd, so he will be very motivated...But don't forget on Longhi, Basso, Aghini, Cantamessa-they are capable to fight for a win!

[HaCo]

Anyone got pics of a Mitsu or Subbie N4 with 18" wheels? :)

[Raven]

Where I can follow this rally live?

[Tom206wrc]

http://www.cioccosporting.it/home_2006 ;)

[Madeira]

http://www.cioccosporting.it/home_2006 ;)

Yes Tom, we know that, the question must be where is the results section on that page?
Perhaps today when the rally will be on the road.19.19 (local hour)

[1LM1]

I hope so too.

[Tom206wrc]

You have a result page on http://www.rallylink.it :)

[Madeira]

You have a result page on http://www.rallylink.it :)

here:
http://www.tempionline.it/2007/rally/ciocco/classifiche.htm

It seems that Luca Cantamessa set the fastest time this morning on the shakedown!

[Tom206wrc]

Pictures of shakedown are available now !!! :p :


Very nice livery on Basso's Grande Punto S2000 :)

[sal]

Link to pics here:

http://www.rallylinkserver.com/cgi-bin/ImageFolio4/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Rally/Ciocco_2007/il_venerdi&img=0

[Jarek Z]

Nice weather, great cars and smiling faces... What else do you need to have a great rally? :up:

[[Madeira-Rally]]

The stars of Rallys Paradise ;)

http://www.rallylinkserver.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Rally/Ciocco_2007/il_venerdi/piloti_cir.JPG

[Madeira]

Nice weather, great cars and smiling faces... What else do you need to have a great rally? :up:

Abarth girls! :p

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Rally started some minutes ago...

Let's who is the first leader of 2007 Ciocco ;)

I put my money on Aghini!

[Jarek Z]

Abarth girls! :p

Yes, where are the Abarth girls? Did all of them go to Safari? ;)

[Madeira]

Yes, where are the Abarth girls? Did all of them go to Safari? ;)
I don't believe because is too hot there and Scandola could land in a river if the girls appear in front of him!!

[Madeira]

]Rally started some minutes ago...

Let's who is the first leader of 2007 Ciocco ;)

I put my money on Aghini!

Andreucci!!!

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Andreucci!!!


Or Basso ;)

[[Madeira-Rally]]

It looks like Rossetti won the stage..

Basso went off the road :( but he could start tomorrow witha 3min. penalty if his team fix the car on time... But.. rally is "over" for Basso... 3 min. is to much in a Champ. like CIR..

And something really wrong with Longhi... he was only 26th overall :(

[kabouter]

A successful Italian debut for the 207 S2000. And not such a successful return to CIR for European Champ Basso... Let's hope he can start tomorrow, but it's going to be hard to score any points with a three minute deficit.

[Tom206wrc]

I can't believe all what happened on a 6km long stage :s


Tomorrow it looks like a duel Rossetti/Andreucci with eventually drivers like Aghini and Dallavilla who can have their word to say...

[Tom206wrc]

SS2 running !!! :p :


Apparently Basso is back with 3 minutes penalty but also 20s penalty added(2 minutes late out of assistance) :mark:

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Andreucci is very strong with the lancer.. he was 16.9 seg. faster than Longhi in a stage with 19 kms...its a BIG difference between two Gr N Cars.. It won't be easy for Rosseti beat Andreucci....

I'm not shure about this.. but I think Basso is out of the race :(

[Tom206wrc]

Yep Basso retired in SS2 :(

Big fight Rossetti/Andreucci for the win it seems :up:


Crazy time by Perico on the Clio S1600(only 4s slower than the leaders) :eek:
I can't imagine what he will do in the 207 S2000 Twister Corse/Enjolras on next CIR event(San Marino) :bounce:

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Yes.. excellent times byt the 3 faster cars.. but it's strange.. the others are so far away from the top times..

In CIR we used to see many drivers separeted by only few seconds...

Andreucci is only 1.3 behind Rossetti.. next stage will start in a few minutes.. 14.6 kms.. let's see if Andreucci can pass Rossetti in Overall classification.

[[Madeira-Rally]]

It seems that Basso had engine problems and was forced to retire in SS 2... :(

Not a good start for Fiat...

[Madeira]

Yep Basso retired in SS2

It seems engine problems!

The two oficcial Mitsubishis better than the two oficcial Subarus.

[[Madeira-Rally]]

It seems engine problems!

The two oficcial Mitsubishis better than the two oficcial Subarus.

Maybe Subarus aren't nice prepared for Michelin Tyres.. they were running since long time wwith Pirelli... I don't know.. but that could be one of the reasons for the big difference...

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Andreucci set the fastest time again... 0.9 sec. faster than his team mate Matteo Gamba

Now Andreucci leads with 2.5 sec of advantage by Rossetti..

Alessandro Perico 4th fastest.. great race for him and for Gamba...

Subarus are really out of the pace.. I think something is really wrong with Subarus.. they have excellent drivers.. so.. the problems just could be in the car...(in my opinion)

[Tom206wrc]

I wait for a reaction of Rossetti in SS4(running now) :p :

[Tom206wrc]

Luca Rossetti has listened to me !!! Best time in SS4 in front of Andreucci !! :D

He's still 2nd but only 2s behind Paolo... ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Perico 3rd best time on the SS4 !!! :eek:

He could be a rocket in the 207 S2000 he will have from San Marino and could be a real threat to Andreucci and Rossetti :up:

[Madeira]

Luca Rossetti has listened to me !!! Best time in SS4 in front of Andreucci !! :D

He's still 2nd but only 2s behind Paolo... ;)

Where did you see that?
Longhi has retired!

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Luca Cecchetini had an off on SS3 and is out of the rally..

Something broken in Subaru of Longhi (something in rear suspension I think) and he is out of the rally to...

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Matteo Gamba had a puncture on SS4.. he changed the tyre the SS and lost more tha 5 min... :(

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Andreucci made a spin on SS 5 and lost 7.2 sec. to Rossetti..

Now Rosseti leads with 5.8 sec advantage.

[1LM1]

Is Perico move to 207 S2000 100 % confirmed Tom206WRC?
I hope so because he is obviously very fast !

[Madeira]

One of the man of rally until now is Alessandro Perico. Amazing exibition!
It would be great if FIA allows a reduce of Car weight to S1600 class.

[Madeira]

Is Perico move to 207 S2000 100 % confirmed Tom206WRC?
I hope so because he is obviously very fast !

Sure it is confirmed 100%!

[1LM1]

Thanks Madeira :up:
And great.

[Tom206wrc]

Rossetti lost 6s to Andreucci on SS6, back to the lead for 0.2s... ;)

[[Madeira-Rally]]

And Perico continues his great performance ;)

[[Madeira-Rally]]

It seems Rossetti is in troubles.. he lost 5 min. in SS 7 :(

[Tom206wrc]

Puncture for Rossetti who had to change a wheel in stage !!! :mark:


I thought the Pirellis(tyres of Andreucci) didn't last long on tarmac, but here a BFGoodrich had the puncture :s

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Rossetti lost time because he had a puncture and he changed the tyre...

There is SuperRally on Ciocco.. but Basso will not start tomorrow with 45 min. penaltie... Abarth anounced that they are really off...

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Day 2 of the rally is over and Andreucci is on the lead!

What a day for Rally Ciocco!!!
All the expectations on the big fight for the 1st place over after Rossetti's puncture... it was being really exciting to follow the leaders...

Andreucci had a brilliante day, beside a little mistake (spin) on SS 5.

But.. .for me the man of the rally until now.. is Alessandro Perico.. he has been very consistente all day, he had some little problems in the last stages with alternator.

This Year there is a big gap between Oficcial Mitsu and the privateer Mitsu.. Gamba was having a nice day too.. but he had a puncture and lost a wheel on the last stage...

Nice day for Davide Medici to.

Many drivers had problems in their cars and punctures...

Very dispointing rally by Subaru Team :( really dispointing...

[HaCo]

Aren't the subbies still driving on small wheels, so with small brake discs?

If you look at this:
http://www.rallylinkserver.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Rally/Ciocco_2007/il_venerdi/manfrinato.JPG

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Aren't the subbies still driving on small wheels, so with small brake discs?

If you look at this:
http://www.rallylinkserver.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Rally/Ciocco_2007/il_venerdi/manfrinato.JPG

That's Manfrinato's Car.... he isn't official Subaru Team driver....

Official are Aghini and Longhi..

Paragraph taken from a press release from Piero Longhi
“Sull’asfalto di Erli, nel Savonese, abbiamo collaudato per la prima volta le ruote da 18 pollici, che saranno la grande novità dell’Impreza versione 2007, e devo confessare di essere estremamente soddisfatto del lavoro fatto. Guidando l’Impreza N 12 gruppo N impiegata nel corso del 2006, ma modificata con le ruote da 18”, ho notato un deciso miglioramento, soprattutto nella guidabilità.
Bene anche gli ammortizzatori che io e Andrea Aghini, l’altro pilota ufficiale di Subaru Italia, abbiamo regolato ad hoc. Così facendo, è stato completato il lavoro grosso in vista dei test della prossima settimana, quando la Prodrive scenderà in forze in Toscana per i collaudi sulla nuova Impreza N 12 B che, tra le novità tecniche, presenterà anche le ruote da 18”.


For Sure Official's Subaru are running with big wheels and big brakes ;)

This picture were taken in a test in February...
http://www.pierolonghi.it/images/test_02_07_c.jpg

[HaCo]

Oh, i see, thank you madeira!

Well, subaru has some work to do then... :)

As soon there are vids, show!!! :)

[Tom206wrc]

Second leg starts in about 5 minutes :)


I hope Rossetti will keep on attacking on the last four 15km long stages :bounce:

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Second leg starts in about 5 minutes :)


I hope Rossetti will keep on attacking on the last four 15km long stages :bounce:

Andreucci extend his lead.. and beat Rossetti once again..

Perico stiil doing an excelent rally!!!

[[Madeira-Rally]]

It looks we will see a big battle for a podium finish between Medicci and Perico..

Medicci won SS11 and now he is "only" about 10 sec. behind Perico... if wee look at the times.. Perico won 15.3 on with this stage victory.. so in the second round in the stages it's possible to win another 15 sec.. It will be exciting for sure!

[Edited: Meddicci didn't won the stage.. Rossetti won..]

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Cantamessa had a broken differential at the end of stage 11... he hopes to arrive to service park to fix the car..

Chentre went off road.. and.. is out..

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Ralliart changed rear differential of Andreucci's car... may for precaution...

[Tom206wrc]

SS12 running... ;)

Impossible for Rossetti to improve his position now(he's 11th about 1 minute behind the 10th) :(

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Fantastic Perico!!!

Meddicci was forcing the 3rd place.. Perico Improve is pace and won 7.9 sec to Meddici... really impresssive rally by Perico...

[Madeira]

One ss to the end of rally and Andrea Perego has a short advantage for Andrea Dallavilla. They will discuss the six position!

[[Madeira-Rally]]

There's no much more to say about Ciocco...

Andreucci did a fantastic rally and shown that Mitsu (Ralliart) are much better than Subaru... and much batter than privateer Mitsu.

I think Cantamessa can't do much more with a privateer car.. he was consistent during all rally and no mistakes.. but he was always far from Andreucci...

Perico was the big surprise of the rally for me... really impressive... always top times and almost no mistakes. Let's see if he what he can do with 207 S2000 on nex race.

Rally lost some interest with Basso's error on the 1st stage.. and with the unlucky of Rosseti when he had a puncture.

Subaru was really disappointing on this rally... they never could set top stage times in "real" stages...

Bad luck for Meddicci who was consistent 4th overall before last stage... ha had an off on the last stage...

I conclude that this year CIR is a little bit different from last years... there is a big gap between official and privateers... let's wait for San Marino to see how it will be the future of 2007 CIR.

BTW.. thanks to Claudio from Rallylink for his precious informations and congratulations the organization of Rally del Ciocco.. they had always live stage times working pretty good.

Provisional final classification
1.Andreucci
2.Cantamessa+58.5
3.Perico+1.21.9
4.Aghini+1.56.3
5.Perego+2.55.9
6.Dallavilla+3.01.9
7.Cavallini+4.00.8
8.Pierangioli+4.21.8
9.Manfrinato+4.34.9
10.Rossetti+4.49.2

[Madeira]

And also a good victory for Pirelli...!

[Tom206wrc]

I can't wait for San Marino in 3 weeks !!! :bounce:


And if this time Alessandro Perico won in front of Andreucci, Rossetti, Basso,... ;)

But overall I think Luca will remain my favourite for the win there :p :

[HaCo]

I hope to see some nice video footage of the rally. Last year I could follow CIR on rally action, but that is no longer excisting!!!

I'm really jalous about Italy, you have a great championship, if you compare it with Belgium.

Hope the privat teams will catch up very soon and of course the subbies too!!

[kabouter]

It's good to see Perico near the front again after a difficult year with the Subaru in 2006 - remember, he did win Sanremo 2005 with a Clio! But don't get your hopes up too high for San Marino. That's a gravel rally and Perico has never done better than 10th on a gravel round of the Italian Championship, and it remains to be seen how the 207 S2000 will do on that surface. But I agree that on asphalt a second CIR victory in his career is a possibility this season.

[giangino]

Photos Rally del Ciocco 2007 online!
http://www.avetowrc.com/Index/Index2.htm

[Tom206wrc]

It's good to see Perico near the front again after a difficult year with the Subaru in 2006 - remember, he did win Sanremo 2005 with a Clio! But don't get your hopes up too high for San Marino. That's a gravel rally and Perico has never done better than 10th on a gravel round of the Italian Championship, and it remains to be seen how the 207 S2000 will do on that surface. But I agree that on asphalt a second CIR victory in his career is a possibility this season.




You already know how the 207 behaves on gravel thanks to Bruno Magalhaes on the Rali de Torrié weeks ago :D

[Jarek Z]

I hope to see some nice video footage of the rally. Last year I could follow CIR on rally action, but that is no longer excisting!!!

What do you mean? There is no Rally Action on TV anymore? I see that the website is still functioning at http://www.rally-action.com

[kabouter]

You already know how the 207 behaves on gravel thanks to Bruno Magalhaes on the Rali de Torrié weeks ago :D

But that wasn't against the might of Ralliart Italy (and against Piero Longhi on his favourite surface) ;)

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Elwin Chentre after his big accident...

http://www.avetowrc.com/Foto/CampionatiItaliani/Ciocco2007/IMG%20(6).jpg

[Tom206wrc]

More pictures !!! :bounce:

http://www.testrally.com/galleria.asp?tipo=Rally&id=124&anno=2007

[HaCo]

What do you mean? There is no Rally Action on TV anymore? I see that the website is still functioning at http://www.rally-action.com

And on what channel do they broadcast their magazine?

[Jarek Z]

And on what channel do they broadcast their magazine?

I don't know. I lost them a few years ago when my cable TV dropped DSF :(
It was the best rally magazine I have ever seen.

[HaCo]

I don't know. I lost them a few years ago when my cable TV dropped DSF :(
It was the best rally magazine I have ever seen.

Exactly :(

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Just imagine how Andreucci drive
(like in his great old times with a WRC...)

http://www.rallylinkserver.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Rally/Ciocco_2007/startup/-Andreucci-Andreussi.jpg

[vittorio]

my photos , good vision

http://www.vittoriosanguineti.it/RALLY2007/RALLY_DEL_CIOCCO_2007/index.html



Ciao vittorio

[[Madeira-Rally]]

And also a good victory for Pirelli...!

Good point of view Madeira.

And... interesting that... Perico used Pirelli tyres on his Twister Corse Clio...

Maybe.. he will use Pirelli on his new 207 S2000... it would be intesting if he use Pirelli... in order to compare with the other 207 S2000 wich is currently running with BF Goodrich tyres.

[Madeira]

The Clio used by Perico in this rally it was the same that Simon Jean Joseph used last year in Rally Vinho Madeira and probably at Sanremo rally. It was built by Barroso Sport and has the same level of preparation of Vitor Sá's Clio!

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Impressive accident of Parli-Canton on this year Rally Del Ciocco

The crew was ok.. but the car :s
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/9769/parlicanton1ls2.jpg
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/2663/parlicanton2wb0.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYxMu1B-SKw

[Madeira]

Video from Ciocco:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqLBieAkSlU&mode=related&search=

[[Madeira-Rally]]

An another video ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycD2tCoKoyk&mode=related&search=

[M+Race]

some photos on http://www.mpiurace.it

[sal]

The usual high standard from Massimo Bettiol

http://www.rallylinkserver.com/bettiol/2007/05_Ciocco/

[HaCo]

The usual high standard from Massimo Bettiol

http://www.rallylinkserver.com/bettiol/2007/05_Ciocco/

Very nice pictures indeed!

[redstring]

Hi all

About Rally del Ciocco, on http://www.rallypost.com you can find some photos and music slideshow, following the link http://www.rallypost.com/page%20foto%20rally%202007.html ...and one video at http://www.rallypost.com/page%20video%20rally%202007.html

enjoy it!
bye

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Thanks for the links ;)

Very nice pics there

[frame]

Other video on Ciocco Rally http://www.rallyeracing.it/index%20ciocco.htm
with the news and the immages of Ciocco story for 30th anniversary
Ciao

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Many thanks for this Videos frame ;)

It's spectacular to see what Top Italian drivers can do even with a Gr N Car...

They are brilliant!

In my opinion I would prefer to see a CIR Rally than a WRC rally... it looks much more interesting ;)

[animrallye]

]Many thanks for this Videos frame ;)

It's spectacular to see what Top Italian drivers can do even with a Gr N Car...

They are brilliant!

In my opinion I would prefer to see a CIR Rally than a WRC rally... it looks much more interesting ;)
You'll be welcome at Rallye Sanremo in september :)

[Jarek Z]

]In my opinion I would prefer to see a CIR Rally than a WRC rally... it looks much more interesting ;)

So I'm not the only one, thanks God! ;)

[[Madeira-Rally]]

You'll be welcome at Rallye Sanremo in september :)

A friend from Spain invited me to go to Rally de Ourense in the summer...

I don't know if it will possible to go to some rally this year, but if I could, for sure ... that one day I will go to Italy to see all of these guys in action!

[HaCo]

Yeah, I would love to see a rally from CIR too! Those guys are just amazing!!!