van der sloot Strikes Again? [Archive]

Roamy

4th June 2010, 05:49

Mark in Oshawa

4th June 2010, 06:54

You don't need to wonder how this is going to play out. He fu____ed and fu____ed good!! A Peruvian jail for stabbing a Peruvian girl. I really doubt he will live much longer! If I were him I would tie the big knot in the sheets and swing from the highest point!

I hope they stop him from that. I hope they do it legal like...make him think about his impending doom....but not give him the satisfaction of ending his life. I don't agree with the death penalty as a general rule, but in the case of slimy, smug little jerks like this clown, I can bend my principle just a little...

Roamy

4th June 2010, 07:01

Well if he lives you will be able to park a truck in his ass :)

Mark in Oshawa

4th June 2010, 07:05

Well if he lives you will be able to park a truck in his ass :)

Not me bud. I wouldn't go near him unless I had a few gratitious whacks at him with an iron bar. This guy is pure slime, and an evil jerk. I would change my mind about the death penalty if all the killers were as obvious as this guy.....the problem is for every van der Sloot, you have about 10 guys who aren't so clear cut, and two them could be framed by corrupt or stupid cops who wont or don't do their jobs properly...

markabilly

4th June 2010, 12:32

classic serial killer mentality, thees two are probably not all he has killed

Tazio

4th June 2010, 14:09

I hope they stop him from that. I hope they do it legal like...make him think about his impending doom....but not give him the satisfaction of ending his life. I don't agree with the death penalty as a general rule, but in the case of slimy, smug little jerks like this clown, I can bend my principle just a little...Peru abolished the death penalty on human rights grounds but retained the option to execute prisoners convicted of crimes of terrorism or treason during times of war. As Toasty intimated, that doesn't preclude another inmate from whacking him!

dunes

5th June 2010, 03:59

They got the ba#tard this time though. Dead to rights and now he'll cop a plea and runaway.Untill his birthday next year.

Jag_Warrior

5th June 2010, 06:24

classic serial killer mentality, thees two are probably not all he has killed

One has to wonder if there are other bodies in his past. And I read that Alabama has issued an extortion warrant for him for trying to sell the story of what happend to Holloway?! Wow, this guy was a pure charmer. :rolleyes:

Would anyone object to locking him in the same cage with Amanda Knox and giving them both knives? I mean, sooner or later, one of them is going to drift off to sleep. :bounce:

Tazio

5th June 2010, 06:38

They got the ba#tard this time though. Dead to rights and now he'll cop a plea and runaway.Untill his birthday next year.I seriously doubt this guy will cop a plea. They have video of him entering the Hotel with her, and him leaving alone. They have the murder weapon and most likely DNA evidence. (I doubt if The Kingdom of the Netherlands will do jack squat for him) A foreigner killing a Peruvian National in Peru coping a plea in this situation? Maybe, maybe he'll get 99 years instead of Life.
Dude, either way he's a dead man walking.

Mark in Oshawa

5th June 2010, 08:41

They got the ba#tard this time though. Dead to rights and now he'll cop a plea and runaway.Untill his birthday next year.

Swoop, copping a plea only works if the Prosecuters are not sure of their case. I think in Peru, ways are always found to be sure of the case!!!!

There are a lot of people who have been waiting to see this jerk brought to justice. He is a serial killer I suspect, and he wont be long once the inmates decide they don't need his act. The Netherlands may not like where he is kept, or the justice system maybe in Peru, but they wont try too hard to repatriate him to a Dutch prison either. No nation would condone what apparently this guy "alledgely" did....

Too bad he didn't get caught in Singapore....lol

markabilly

5th June 2010, 13:08

Swoop, copping a plea only works if the Prosecuters are not sure of their case. I think in Peru, ways are always found to be sure of the case!!!!

There are a lot of people who have been waiting to see this jerk brought to justice. He is a serial killer I suspect, and he wont be long once the inmates decide they don't need his act. The Netherlands may not like where he is kept, or the justice system maybe in Peru, but they wont try too hard to repatriate him to a Dutch prison either. No nation would condone what apparently this guy "alledgely" did....

Too bad he didn't get caught in Singapore....lol
well when popa was around, the boy had judicial immunity, because daddy was a judge

personally, i doubt this was his first rodeo and the peru deal was not his 'only second time"

if he is lucky, he will get extradited to italy to be prosecuted by the incompetents who populate the justice system there--next best thing to having a judge for a daddy

and now wiki-ekie takes a break from creaming tacos at taco bell, to start telling us all about Isreal, Gitmo, and the usa justice .....why iran is superior....yadadayada....

anthonyvop

5th June 2010, 15:06

Mark in Oshawa

5th June 2010, 19:37

Assumptions and stereotypes are funny at times.

F.Y.I. Peru has one of the most liberal court systems in the western hemisphere. Convicted terrorists and mass murdered frequently walk out after spending part of their sentences.

If convicted he will survive just fine and will probably walk in about 10 years.

Tony, surely they cannot be any more libreal than Canada at times, and even here, he would be looking at a "dangerous offender" tag and not be eligible for parole. There is too many things this guy has been caught in for a very good case to be in front of the courts, and you can bet there will be more than a little bit of moral suasion from the US Ambassador into the Peruvian corridors of power...

Lousada

5th June 2010, 20:25

The Netherlands may not like where he is kept, or the justice system maybe in Peru, but they wont try too hard to repatriate him to a Dutch prison either. No nation would condone what apparently this guy "alledgely" did....

They can't repatriate him because Peru and NL have no treaty. If he gets convicted he'll have to serve his time in Peru.

This guy sure had a wild life though. He's like 23 or so? Lived in the Caribbean, Europe, Thailand, now he was in Peru and still managed to flee 2000km to Chili. How does he get all that money? He's from an ordinary family, not especially rich or so. He had a gambling addiction, was caught human trafficking, obviously involved in at least 2 deaths and it was all broadcasted on tv... Yet how did he keep getting friends and Girlfriends!? I can't really get my head around that.

Tazio

5th June 2010, 20:54

Tony, surely they cannot be any more libreal than Canada at times, and even here, he would be looking at a "dangerous offender" tag and not be eligible for parole. There is too many things this guy has been caught in for a very good case to be in front of the courts, and you can bet there will be more than a little bit of moral suasion from the US Ambassador into the Peruvian corridors of power...

Mark I checked out Tony's assertion. In the arena of punishment (in terms of years, and terrorism, he is summarily correct. However Peru has no international terrorism. Just Some really nasty indigenous groups that are causing some serious mayhem. From what I can tell the ones that walked are the exceptions, and probably let go for political reasons. The typical sentence for domestic terrorism is 10-15 years. The max for murder is 35 years.

How does this sound for our friend van der sloot:

Lurigancho Prison in Peru is considered one of the most dangerous prisons in the civilized world!

Lurigancho Prison in Peru was built for 3600 inmates but now houses nearly 10,000, with only 100 unarmed guards. To control the prisoners the authorities have handed over the running of the prison to a council of inmate leaders

Check out this vid!
http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/series/inside/3144/Photos#tab-Videos/06015_00

van der Sloot----DEAD MAN~~ :uhoh:

anthonyvop

5th June 2010, 21:13

Mark I checked out Tony's assertion. In the arena of punishment (in terms of years, and terrorism, he is summarily correct. However Peru has no international terrorism.

Here is an International Terroist in Peru released after just 15 years

http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/world/american-terrorist-released-after-15-years-in-peruvian-prison_100370979.html

The max for murder is 35 years.

How does this sound for our friend van der sloot:

Lurigancho Prison in Peru is considered one of the most dangerous prisons in the civilized world!

Prison is Latin America are different than those in NA or Europe. Basically you have to pay to serve. His family should easily be able to pay for his food, healthcare and protection.
Also expect the Peruvian Gov to protect him if convicted to show the Euros that they are savages.

Tazio

5th June 2010, 21:33

Here is an International Terroist in Peru released after just 15 years

http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/world/american-terrorist-released-after-15-years-in-peruvian-prison_100370979.html

If you read my post it stated international terrorism. This is domestic terrorism not a plot hatched by a foreign group trying to attack the Peruvisn Establishment. It also follows my asertion that terrorist's do about 10 - 15 years.

"She arrived in Peru in 1992, where she joined the MRTA, a Marxist rebel group named, fighting against government of Alberto Fujimori."

Prison is Latin America are different than those in NA or Europe. Basically you have to pay to serve. His family should easily be able to pay for his food, healthcare and protection.
Also expect the Peruvian Gov to protect him if convicted to show the Euros that they are savages.
That we will see about. I'm not disagreeing with this.
I guess that is why they made him wear a bullet-proof vest when they brought him in!

They can't watch him all the time!
IMO~~~~DEAD MAN :uhoh:

anthonyvop

5th June 2010, 21:47

If you read my post it stated international terrorism. This is domestic terrorism not a plot hatched by a foreign group trying to attack the Peruvisn Establishment. It also follows my asertion that terrorist's do about 10 - 15 years.

"She arrived in Peru in 1992, where she joined the MRTA, a Marxist rebel group named, fighting against government of Alberto Fujimori."

An American joins a Peruvian Terror group funded and supported by Cuba and China.......How is that not International Terrorism?

Tazio

6th June 2010, 00:35

It's domestic! full stop!

Camelopard

8th June 2010, 09:16

Van der Sloot 'confesses to murder of Lima woman'

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/van-der-sloot-confesses-to-murder-of-lima-woman/story-e6frfku0-1225877064729

dunes

9th June 2010, 03:17

So now maybe he'll come clean and let the parents and family memebers of Holliday rest.
He couldn't possible get more time maybe a reduced sentence for giving up the where abouts of the body.

Tazio

9th June 2010, 03:56

This guys sick fantasy is over.
He is Toast!!

Roamy

9th June 2010, 06:02

i heard he will only get 35 yrs but I think the US will hold open his wirefraud charge and extradite him after he serves in peru

Tazio

13th June 2010, 02:37

i heard he will only get 35 yrs but I think the US will hold open his wirefraud charge and extradite him after he serves in peruYes he's facing 50 years in the States!

Federal prosecutors in Birmingham, Alabama have filed a criminal complaint against van der Sloot, a citizen of the Netherlands, on wire fraud and extortion charges in connection with his soliciting money in May on promises he would reveal the location of Natalee Holloway’s remains in Aruba and the circumstances of her death, according to court documents obtained by the National Association of Chiefs of Police.

The complaint charges that van der Sloot, on May 10, extorted $15,000 from an individual as partial payment toward his promise to reveal the location of Natalee Holloway’s remains for $250,000. The maximum sentence on the extortion count is 20 years in prison.

The complaint also charges van der Sloot with wire fraud for causing the $15,000 to be transferred by wire from a Birmingham bank to a bank in the Netherlands in furtherance of his scheme to defraud. The maximum sentence for the wire fraud count is 30 years.

http://www.examiner.com/x-37621-Public-Safety-Examiner~y2010m6d4-Joran-van-der-Sloot-faces-50-years-imprisonment-but-not-for-murder

Tazio

13th June 2010, 04:53

Somehow this seems appropriate for Vandy'

:p : :grenade:

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markabilly

13th June 2010, 08:52

was thinking more this, just a little different accents, and names of places to make it match:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DksGi7B5BdM

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markabilly

13th June 2010, 08:56

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markabilly

13th June 2010, 09:12

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DksGi7B5BdM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DksGi7B5BdM

Would be my thought, with a slightly different accent and a few geographical changes..

markabilly

13th June 2010, 09:28

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markabilly

13th June 2010, 09:32

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dunes

13th June 2010, 21:01

Yes he's facing 50 years in the States!

His lawyer triing to get it reduced to aggrigated assault by means of torement. Stating he went beserk when the peruvian girl went on his PC and saw something he didn't want her to see.3 years max;[Deminished capaity]

markabilly

13th June 2010, 21:09

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DksGi7B5BdM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DksGi7B5BdM

Would be my thought, with a slightly different accent and a few geographical changes..
march you to the table.....

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dunes

13th June 2010, 22:21

I think maybe CCR's caption remake of Green River would be better.

Tazio

13th June 2010, 23:02

His lawyer triing to get it reduced to aggrigated assault by means of torement. Stating he went beserk when the peruvian girl went on his PC and saw something he didn't want her to see.3 years max;[Deminished capaity]That may be all it takes ;)

At age 22, Van der Sloot is now a caged animal. He sits in a bleak third-world prison, where he fears his fellow inmates. After requesting isolation, he shares a cellblock with a reputed Colombian murderer-for-hire. :eek:
http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=12642023

dunes

13th June 2010, 23:06

That may be all it takes ;)
:eek:
http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=12642023
I heard he was quarenteened two doors down from the warden in an isolated part mof the compond with not cellmates anbd no access to other inmates as well as being placed on a suicide watch. It sounds pretty cozy to me. I say treat him like Jeffry Dahmer and put him in general population.

Tazio

13th June 2010, 23:16

who wrote and preformed "I was almost Home" Country music about 4-5 years ago

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and Bobs's your uncle! :s mokin:

No sweat! Don't mention it! :)

Song: Almost Home
Album: I Love It

(Craig Morgan/Kerry Curt Phillips)

dunes

14th June 2010, 01:24

73XaEvgrJkE

and Bobs's your uncle! :s mokin:

No sweat! Don't mention it! :)

Song: Almost Home
Album: I Love It

(Craig Morgan/Kerry Curt Phillips)

:p : :) :up:

markabilly

14th June 2010, 02:09

He now says that he will tell where the body is of holloway, if they will let him go back home to do his time....I say just beat it out of him.

Confession by torture is very unreliable since people will confess to anything to avoid enough pain, however, when one can go to the location and find the body, then such a confession is not so unreliable

Besides he is likely to come up with another crazy story.....and the body never found

soooooo :s mash: and more... :arrows: :hot: :arrows: until he :fasttalk:

Tazio

14th June 2010, 04:07

The only deal he should be able to make is whose girlfriend he is in the Joint! :s mokin:

Tazio

14th June 2010, 07:47

This just in:

Police in Colombia are investigating whether Dutch national Johan van der Sloot was involved in the disappearance of two girls in Bogotá. The chief suspect in the murder case of Peruvian woman Stephany Flores was reportedly seen in various casinos in the Colombian capital in the company of young girls.

El Espacio has published an article on the Dutchman, linking his visits to Bogotá casinos to attend poker games between 6 and 14 May 2010, to the young women’s disappearance. The two girls went missing in the same period and - according to eye-witnesses - were spotted in Van der Sloot’s company. The 22-year-old Dutchman stayed at two or more hotels, the newspaper reports

http://www.rnw.nl/english/article/colombia-police-investigate-van-der-sloot-over-missing-girls

This guy's the freakin' anti-christ :eek:

http://www2.tbo.com/exposure/ar/659/372/2010/06/08/54232_van-der-sloot.jpg

markabilly

14th June 2010, 14:08

was the murder in peru on the same anniversary date as the holloway death?

Tazio

14th June 2010, 15:06

was the murder in peru on the same anniversary date as the holloway death?

Yes five years to the day!
BTW I think they're going to to be able to pin the Lindbergh murder on him :eek:

markabilly

15th June 2010, 06:00

Yes five years to the day!
BTW I think they're going to to be able to pin the Lindbergh murder on him :eek:
:eek:

atually, MERE coincidence that the thief broke into his room and killed that poor girl on that particular day....

Tazio

15th June 2010, 19:13

:eek:

atually, MERE coincidence that the thief broke into his room and killed that poor girl on that particular day....
I know :confused:

BTW about the two missing women in Columbia:

the Administrative Department of Security of Colombia do not consider Van der Sloot a suspect as they believe his presence in Bogota was merely in transit to Peru.[91]
And then there is this crap:

Dutch daily newspaper Trouw warned that the overwhelming pressure on authorities of Van der Sloot's presumed guilt risked turning the case into a show trial.[92] The Dutch consulate told Peruvian authorities that it was concerned how Van der Sloot was being treated and presented to the media.[58]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joran_van_der_Sloot

markabilly

16th June 2010, 04:32

Originally Posted by http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/images/aria/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=0#post0)
Dutch daily newspaper Trouw warned that the overwhelming pressure on authorities of Van der Sloot's presumed guilt risked turning the case into a show trial.[92] The Dutch consulate told Peruvian authorities that it was concerned how Van der Sloot was being treated and presented to the media.[58]

well, they do not have him presented dangling on the end of a rope, yet......

Mark in Oshawa

16th June 2010, 04:35

well, they do not have him presented dangling on the end of a rope, yet......
The Dutch government has a right and duty to speak up for fair treatment of one of their citizens. In this case however, they shouldn't try too hard. He has brought shame upon being Dutch...

markabilly

16th June 2010, 04:44

[quote="Mark in Oshawa"]The Dutch government has a right and duty to speak up for fair treatment of one of their citizens. quote]

He should get fair treatment by being buried deep enough so the dogs do not dig him up

Nothing worse than having ole yeller nobbing on a big leg bone, and then finding out it is some human's..... :dozey:

markabilly

16th June 2010, 15:04

"Approximately 500 inmates, including 135 women, have brought lawsuits (http://www.lawschool.cornell.edu/womenandjustice/legalresources/upload/IACtHR-20Miguel-20Castro-Castro-20Prison-20v-20Peru-20INTERPRETATION-20REPARATIONS-20AND-20COSTS.pdf) against the guards in that prison for physically abusing them," Griffith said. "Recently, a new warden took over. He was murdered (http://laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=350139&CategoryId=14095) the first day on the job. So this is what we're dealing with. If they got to the warden the first day, can you imagine what could happen to van der Sloot? It's insane."

His new home......I am really worried for our boy...

http://www.aolnews.com/world/article/prison-in-peru-could-be-a-nightmare-for-joran-van-der-sloot/19517411?icid=main|hp-laptop|dl1|link5|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aolnews.com%2Fwo rld%2Farticle%2Fprison-in-peru-could-be-a-nightmare-for-joran-van-der-sloot%2F19517411

Mark in Oshawa

17th June 2010, 20:56

The Dutch government has a right and duty to speak up for fair treatment of one of their citizens. quote]

He should get fair treatment by being buried deep enough so the dogs do not dig him up

Nothing worse than having ole yeller nobbing on a big leg bone, and then finding out it is some human's..... :dozey:

You and I both know what I was saying. The Dutch Gov't is going through the motions they would for any citizen. That said, this guy is toast...

Roamy

17th June 2010, 22:30

Tazio

19th June 2010, 08:35

You and I both know what I was saying. The Dutch Gov't is going through the motions they would for any citizen. That said, this guy is toast...This may set a president, as I don't believe I have so strongly held the same opinion as you.
I totally agree with your previous post that that the country of his patriation has an interest and responsibility to do what they can to see that he receives a fair trial. However, the crime he is accused of was perpetrated on the soil of the Sovereign State of Peru. Their judiciary system will handle this case as they handle every other aggravated heinous felony. If the Dutch government in some obtuse fantasy decides to strenuously object, it should take a declaration of war before Peru considers giving any form of special treatment to this barbarian. Just show me where to sign the conscription papers to join the Peruvian Military. The last thing Peru, in my opinion should do is make the slightest implication that foreigners can come to their country commit a crime and send a message to their own citizens that they are not entitled to the same treatment as a citizens of a country that would appear to be entitled because they are not of the third world. If anything they have an obligation to their enraged citizens to demonstrate the exact opposite!

dunes

21st June 2010, 02:25

But a burgler broke in and strangled her.
He's not only innocent [again] he can make part of a jury believe him.
Peru will ask the US to take him and the US can't because they can't prosecute him. Too much money involved for the Peruvian court system to imprison him and not enough facts for the us TO HAVE HIM.