The Tilke monopoly.

[Ranger]

His circuits are good, but does the FIA and FOM think he's the only one in the world that can design a circuit?

The only thing that is alarming is that soon enough half of all the F1 circuits will be designed by him.

Abu Dhabi
Bahrain
China
India
Korea
Malaysia
Turkey
Singapore
USA
Valencia
Turkey

Surely its time to hand the pen and paper over.

[CNR]

it looks like he had done some redesigned of the circuit as well
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_Tilke
1998 Sepang International Circuit (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/Sepang_International_Circuit), Malaysia (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/Malaysia)
2004 Bahrain International Circuit (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/Bahrain_International_Circuit), Bahrain (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/Bahrain)
2004 Shanghai International Circuit (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/Shanghai_International_Circuit), China (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/China)
2005 Istanbul Park Racing Circuit (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/Istanbul_Park), Turkey (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/Turkey)
2006 Cancun (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/Cancun), Mexico (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/Mexico) *Undeveloped
2006 Beijing International Streetcircuit (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/Beijing_International_Streetcircuit), China (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/China)
2008 Marina Bay Street Circuit (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/Marina_Bay_Street_Circuit), Singapore (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/Singapore) *concept design
2007 Bucharest Ring (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/Bucharest_Ring), Romania (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/Romania)
2008 Swedbank kartodroms (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/Swedbank_kartodroms), Latvia (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/Latvia)
2008 Valencia Street Circuit (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/Valencia_Street_Circuit), Spain (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/Spain)
2008 Jakarta Street Circuit (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/Jakarta_Street_Circuit), Indonesia (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/Indonesia)
2009 Yas Marina Circuit (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/Yas_Marina_Circuit), Abu Dhabi (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/Abu_Dhabi)-United Arab Emirates (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/United_Arab_Emirates)
2010 Dublin Street Circuit (http://www.motorsportforums.com/w/index.php?title=Dublin_Street_Circuit&action=edit&redlink=1), Ireland (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/Ireland)[citation needed (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)]
2010 Korean International Circuit (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/Korean_International_Circuit), South Korea (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/South_Korea) (under construction)
2010 Moscow Raceway (http://www.motorsportforums.com/w/index.php?title=Moscow_Raceway&action=edit&redlink=1), Russia (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/Russia) (Planned MotoGP Venue)
2010 Kazakhstan Motor City (http://www.motorsportforums.com/w/index.php?title=Kazakhstan_Motor_City&action=edit&redlink=1), Republic of Kazakhstan (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/Republic_of_Kazakhstan)
2010 Atlanta Motorsports Park (http://www.motorsportforums.com/w/index.php?title=Atlanta_Motorsports_Park&action=edit&redlink=1), United States of America (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/United_States_of_America) (under construction)
2011 Jaypee Group Circuit (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/Jaypee_Group_Circuit), Greater Noida (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/Greater_Noida), India (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/India) (under construction)
2012 Unnamed Austin International Circuit (http://www.motorsportforums.com/w/index.php?title=Unnamed_Austin_International_Circu it&action=edit&redlink=1), United States of America (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/United_States_of_America) (under developement)[1] (http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/#cite_note-0)
Eastern Creek ?

[Roamy]

who did
spa
monza
suzuki
silverstone
imola
these are the good track
maybe turkey is ok will look again this weekend.

I here jerez is quite good also

[Sonic]

who did
spa
monza
suzuki
silverstone
imola
these are the good track
maybe turkey is ok will look again this weekend.

I here jerez is quite good also

Whatever divine spirit you believe in was responsible for most of those.

[Roamy]

amen brother

[Sonic]

John Hugenholtz seems to have been the tilke of his day as the man responsible for suzuka, Zandvoort, Zolder, Hockenheim and others.

The difference seems to be that each of his tracks have their own style and feel. Each of the Tilke tracks follow the same basic design (long straight - each longer than the last) followed by hairpin.

[ShiftingGears]

John Hugenholtz seems to have been the tilke of his day as the man responsible for suzuka, Zandvoort, Zolder, Hockenheim and others.

The difference seems to be that each of his tracks have their own style and feel. Each of the Tilke tracks follow the same basic design (long straight - each longer than the last) followed by hairpin.

Agreed. Even though some of his circuits weren't very good (Nivelles) they were unique.

And Zandvoort and Suzuka are miles ahead of anything Tilke has done.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqeUlWsEMeE&feature=PlayList&p=DE67EF75C9B443F9&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=12

Fantastically fast and very flowing.

[Dr. Krogshöj]

Don't forget, Mr. Tilke always works for a promoter or track owner. This time, it seems that the promoter commissioned a circuit that is unlike the other modern circuits. So we can hope Austin will be another Istanbul Park and not another Yas Marina.


Although Hellmund has yet to divulge details of what he calls a “killer location”, he confirmed that the site is to the east of the city, a few miles from the airport. It is said to be in hilly countryside that has provided Tilke with a good starting point for a design. The German has been asked to create a fast circuit with challenging corners that resemble those of classic established circuits such as Silverstone, Hockenheim and Spa. It will be over 3-miles in length.


http://adamcooperf1.com/2010/05/26/tilke-designing-austin-track-site-already-purchased/

[I am evil Homer]

Over 3 miles sounds good, elevation sounds good, tracks mentioned as 'inspiration' sound good..lets hope it all comes together

[Dr. Krogshöj]

More quotes from Mr. Tavo Hellmund...


"I've always said F1 has to go back to one of the true great road courses in America, whether it be a Road Atlanta or a Laguna Seca, one of these great traditional tracks. An American audience doesn't like a flat track unless it's an oval, where they can see everything. It doesn't show off what F1 is. So you've got to go to a beautiful, natural road course. Watkins Glen was the heyday of grand prix racing in America."

That's what he hopes Hermann Tilke can create on the 800 plus acres he has been given to play with. Used to remote deserts and swamps as starting points, this time he has hilly countryside, complete with lakes. Hellmund says the design is over three miles in length, with challenging corners that replicate some of the best in Europe.

"It's going to be holy s*** fast," he insists...

[gloomyDAY]

Over 3 miles sounds good, elevation sounds good, tracks mentioned as 'inspiration' sound good..lets hope it all comes together


More quotes from Mr. Tavo Hellmund...*fingers crossed* :D

[UltimateDanGTR]

after what the promoters have said, I expect nothing less than tilke's finest circuit yet. and that expectation is down to the better sounding requirements they've clearly given him over the tilkasia dromes of recent years.

[DazzlaF1]

after what the promoters have said, I expect nothing less than tilke's finest circuit yet. and that expectation is down to the better sounding requirements they've clearly given him over the tilkasia dromes of recent years.

Reading that statement, he has given Tilke a simple description of what he wants

"none of your long straight/tight hairpin bulls**t, I want fast flowing corners, big elevation changes, something like that track in Belgium but on a smaller scale"

Thats what we all want, hopefully we'll get something truly special this time.

[i_max2k2]

This definetily seems like an oppurtunity for Tilke to make his finest track by not being himself, let's see if he can manage that.

[Mark in Oshawa]

Tilke has to make "safe" tracks...so you end up with huge sweepers with acres of asphalt around them often too.....

I don't know what kind of track Austin will be, but I can almost bet I wont like it. I don't like a lot of his work, but to be fair, I think the FIA wants tracks now, they take a lot of the character of the terrain and bulldoze it anyhow...

[Josti]

Agreed. Even though some of his circuits weren't very good (Nivelles) they were unique.

His original design for Nivelles was much longer and would have turned out much better, only they couldn't get the extra ground to build on.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqeUlWsEMeE&feature=PlayList&p=DE67EF75C9B443F9&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=12

Fantastically fast and very flowing.

I love the old Zandvoort track, indeed very flowing and nice elevation, it's still good, but not as much.

[ShiftingGears]

More quotes from Mr. Tavo Hellmund...

I'm liking this guys attitude.

[jens]

Besides the negativism it has to be said there is clearly one thing Tilke is good at in circuit designs - overtaking opportunities. His circuits have them more than most of the "old-guard" circuits. Probably this partly has forced him to take a similar design approach on many occasions. But considering that the thing fans in modern F1 complain most about is overtaking, maybe he has thought this is the approach that must have an A-priority.

[Sonic]

I disagree Jens. A standard Tilke track does provide overtaking chances, but only for a very limited number of laps. It seems a feature of his tracks that the field spread is greater than elsewhere, so whilst we see a few barnstorming laps, the gaps generally become to great for much racing.

[speeddurango]

I don't mind asphalt run-offs, as long as the layout itself is good I in support of it.