[IRC, ERC] Barum Czech Rally Zlin 2010

[PLuto]

Maybe it is too early to start this thread, but actually we have 3 months before start...

[PLuto]

At today's press conference was published first informations about event (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=10519) (article is in czech)

[Mirek]

Short rough translation:

Wednesday and Thursday - recce
Thursday evening - scrutineering in Zlín Novesta sport hall (as in 2008)
Friday 8:00-13:00 - shakedown on last year's stage Komárov (start in village of Komárov, finish in Pohořelice with well known spectator area)
Friday 17:00 - Ceremonial start at Zlín Náměstí Míru square at city hall
Friday evening - city stage (starts a bit later than 2009)
Saturday - 8 stages (2x4 SS)
Sunday - 8 stages (2x4 SS)

Altogether 17 stages of ca 260 km competitive kilometers. 600 km overall.


Historic Star rally show will take place on city stage before modern cars and on all Saturday stages between first and second run of modern cars.

[Hartusvuori]

Could you two give rough estimation how many S2000 cars there could be in Barum outside IRC regulars - meaning those competing in ERC and Czech championship or perhaps otherwise making an appearance in Zlin. I'm hoping there'd be over 30 S2000s at the start line. Perhaps we could make a list here.

I'm trying to hold down my excitement towards this particular event, but it's hard... It is going to be my first international event I'll spectate outside Finland, first IRC event and first tarmac event. Usually at this time of the year I'm planning my route through NORF, but now I haven't checked its initeary since it was released in February - thanks to Barum :)

[Mirek]

Yes, I think that the number of S2000 will be around 30. Than roughly another 30 production cars, some 10-15 R3 cars, some 10 S1600 cars etc. I don't like making lists though :)

[PLuto]

It is too early to say any names or numbers. I can tell you only one exact number - number of actually entered S2000 cars is... ...0 :)

[Hartusvuori]

It is too early to say any names or numbers. I can tell you only one exact number - number of actually entered S2000 cars is... ...0 :)

Okey, I'll cancel my flight...

[PLuto]

And make auction for your accomodation, I whink you can earn lot of money from it - most of hotels and pensions in Zlin are full....

[Hartusvuori]

Rally Guide 1 (http://www.barum.rally.cz/2010/pdf/bcrz2010-rg1en.pdf)

It appears that most of the route is changed from 2009. Is there any maps available yet?

[PLuto]

Maps and itinerary with right names of stages will be available later. There is still lot of time before rally and we dont want illegal recce from competitors, spectators and journalists...

[Raven]

we dont want illegal recce from competitors, spectators and journalists...
I understand competitors, but is recce by journalists and spectators illegal? ;) :D Maybe new "great" regulations by FIA... ;)

[Mirek]

Yes, sometimes it really is. Some of those roads are restricted for public. Of course it doesn't brake any sporting rule but forbidden traffic on closed roads makes problems for organizers with future permission for running those stages.

[J4MIE]

70% of the stages are changed, that is a huge amount! Hopefully it will be as good as ever though, my flights have been booked for months and again really looking forward to it after an excellent time last year :up:

[Jarek Z]

I haven't seen the new stages yet, but I'm very happy that the route was changed. It was really getting old driving the same stages for the last 5 years. Good luck with the rally guys!

[Raven]

]Some of those roads are restricted for public.
In 2008 I spoted a Skoda parked on the road, blocking the ss (few hours before the rally). This was the first time I saw soemthing like that :)

[NaBUru38]

Mirek Fric means that the owners of the areas where the rally will be held would get angry if insane rally fans raced there (months or weeks before the rally).

[Mirek]

Timetable released: http://www.barum.rally.cz/2010/pdf/bcrz2010-itinerary.pdf

[Salist]

Thanks Mirek.

[Honza H.]

Bouffier confirmed his participation in Barum today! That´s a very good news, especially after what he´s shown this weekend at Bohemia rally!

[Bartek]

Where is a good place to sleep in Zlin? Hotels are full?

[Raven]

Probably most of the hotels and rooms are booked, so the best place to sleep is a car or tent :-) Am I right?

[Raven]

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[Mirek]

Probably most of the hotels and rooms are booked, so the best place to sleep is a car or tent :-) Am I right?

Yes, but I think that it's still possible to stay in Zlin University residence. I slept there few years a go during a rock festival in Vizovice and it was ok.

http://web.kmz.utb.cz/?id=0_2_1&lang=en&type=0

[PLuto]

Bouffier confirmed his participation in Barum today! That´s a very good news, especially after what he´s shown this weekend at Bohemia rally!

It isnt sure yet. He told he wants to do Barum, but there is still lot of talks...

[Hartusvuori]

From Guy Wilks' tweet (http://twitter.com/GuyWilks):


Good news. Skoda UK will announce tomorrow that our next rally will be Barum in the Czech Republic! Test planned...

[Francis44]

Bruno Magalhães will not be in Barum Rally, this year he will only do more Azores and Madeira (Portugal rounds) and then the program is over.

Peugeot Portugal will start working on a full campaign for next year.

[PLuto]

Bruno Magalhães will not be in Barum Rally, this year he will only do more Azores and Madeira (Portugal rounds) and then the program is over.

Peugeot Portugal will start working on a full campaign for next year.

Maybe he will do one event more... (but not Barum)

[Francis44]

Maybe he will do one event more... (but not Barum)

Let's wait and see.

He said yestarday that the program was indeed over, but if he does one more round, it will probably be San Remo.

[Raven]

Results below expectations?

[Francis44]

Results below expectations?

That and lack of money.

[polo10]

I think is more about money, the results are not very, very good, but i did not expect much more, first year in IRC, but the problem is that Bruno was losting time 3 years in Portugal and not did not improve, i remember you that all of the others drivers that are figthing against him are professional drivers since a lot of years ago, and their international experience is much higher...You will see Bruno in Azores and Madeira, especially in Madeira...

[Bartek]

On Barum Bryan Bouffier will runs in the factory team Peugeot, with new engine. If Peugoet have chance to wine the tittle after Barum Bryan start in factory team in the rest of season.

[Hartusvuori]

On Barum Bryan Bouffier will runs in the factory team Peugeot, with new engine. If Peugoet have chance to wine the tittle after Barum Bryan start in factory team in the rest of season.

This is good news. Hopefully we'll see similar pace from him as was seen in Bohemia. Him and Loix are nice additions to the entry list.

[PLuto]

Proton will start on Barum - http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=10786

http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=10786#

[RS]

Proton will start on Barum - http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=10786

http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=10786#

Good news but I think Proton's chances of points on Barum will be virtually zero.

Any other tasty Barum entry news? I am expecting a good one!

[Hartusvuori]

Good news but I think Proton's chances of points on Barum will be virtually zero.

That's true, but from spectators' point of view rallies need the also-runs as well. And nice to see Atko live in action after two years.

May I ask what's the big news could be you're asking for. I lack in imagination. :)

[HaCo]

Some more M-Sport entrys would be welcome! :D

[Hartusvuori]

Some more M-Sport entrys would be welcome! :D

Oh yeah (with a deep voice) :D

[bluuford]

Seems that Oleksii Tamrazov, who usually visits all Estonian rallies and entertains spectators a lot has bought new car and will start in Barum rally with Fiesta S2000:

http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=10816

a few links of his driving style:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzBHX1dwzgs

and this
Look on the 55 seconds:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAmoyi1ueZs

very nice:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnhY-v1CSWc

So, he is very, very spectacular driver usually :-) Sometimes quite fast as well :)

[Mirek]

Yes, he will drive it, also Kresta will drive Fabia S2000.

Both will test in Rally Pacejov on 6-7th August.

[Ondra WRC]

So far entries 46 crew from 13 lands - 12 S2000 cars. On the historic rally have go 18 cars from Italy and from Germany 9 cars. Live coverage from SS Pozlovice.

[PLuto]

I will correct the info, live coverage from SS Pozlovice isnt sure, there are still negotiations about it. And if it will be, for sure not in range like Monte.

[PLuto]

Also historic cars dont have finalized entries, we are expecting around 10 cars from Germany and around 18 from Italy, but still dont have entries. But it looks that Star rally for historic cars will be really great this year...

[Mirek]

Non-locals can't know what is SS Pozlovice because that name isn't officially used. It's name of another village on stage Biskupice.

[RS]

]Yes, he will drive it, also Kresta will drive Fabia S2000.


Kresta in a Fabia.. Skoda reinforcing their armada?

[Walach]

No, there is nothing common with factory Škoda. It´s just car´s exchange between Kresta and Tlusťák. Kresta still want title and in his Peugeot it´s impossible to beat Valoušek (if he hasn´t problems, of course).

[Eyvind]

It´s just car´s exchange between Kresta and Tlusťák.

Only for this rally? Or for the rest of the season?

[Walach]

Now it is only for Pačejov (as a test before Barum) and then for Barum. But If there will be still chance for title (after Barum), I think that Kresta will drive Fabia also in Příbram.

[Eyvind]

Ok, thanks !! ;)

[Allar]

Tamrazov Fiesta s2000 in Estonia, but i dont know why its here :D

http://static1.fotoalbum.ee/fotoalbum/296/249/07412455739c66.jpg

[PLuto]

Maybe to show the people how beautiful should be white racing car without stickers? :-)

[Bartek]

Mirek have you got any informations about entry list? Many S2000? :)

[Mirek]

I think that You can expect around 120 cars with some 30 S2000. Plus of course historic show on some stages with 45 cars.

[royg]

Hi everyone -

We're coming from UK to see the rally, after spectating on Rallye Deutschland the weekend before. Really looking forward to seeing (and hearing!!) all those S2000 cars!

Does anyone have information about where the stages are, and the best places to watch the rally?

Thanks,

Roy

[Raven]

Here you have 2009 maps, most of them will be probably the same.
http://www.barum.rally.cz/2009/maps.php?sec=2&lng=en

In future please try to check event's website.

[Mirek]

Maps will be revealed soon. Two stages (Biskupice and Orechov) are new, Semetin, Trojak and Zadverice are reversed. Halenkovice and Kudlovice are modified and Komarov is transformed into shakedown (last 5 km). Pindula and city stage should be almost same.

Onboards of new stages are here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si86Ia8WD4o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zljIm4WI3IE (same only till last crossroads where they go straight)

[royg]

Thanks guys!

I've already got the 2009 stages on Google Earth, so have lots of information about some stages. Pindula looks awesome!

I look forward to seeing all the maps, so we can plan our spectating.

We're staying in Luhačovice, so I guess the Biskupice stage will be pretty close!

Roy

[Mirek]

Surprise from Proton. Niall McShea and Keith Cronin will drive two MEM machines. Non of normal trio will start here.

http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=10876

[RS]

]Surprise from Proton. Niall McShea and Keith Cronin will drive two MEM machines. Non of normal trio will start here.

http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=10876

Not a good surprise in my opinion...

[noel157]

I think McShea may do ok, car permitting, if he gets some seat time, has hardly been in a car for some time but was able get up to 3rd overall on Rally Ireland in the Proton. As for Cronin, not sure about that but with testing, as suggested, he may get into top 15. But for both drivers it will be a very specialised event.

[mm1]

McShea was very spectacular and fast in Ireland, surely better than Cave.

[wwbroe]

I think if he can reach top ten finish it would be an enormous performance, so let's see what he is capable off. :)

[Wim_Impreza]

I think if he can reach top ten finish it would be an enormous performance, so let's see what he is capable off. :)

I think if the Proton's can finish, that would be almost a miracle.

[Mirek]

I think McShea may do ok, car permitting, if he gets some seat time, has hardly been in a car for some time but was able get up to 3rd overall on Rally Ireland in the Proton. As for Cronin, not sure about that but with testing, as suggested, he may get into top 15. But for both drivers it will be a very specialised event.

I think that being an Irish is actually quite an advantage for Barum. Irish drivers are used to drive on crazy fast narrow and bumpy roads. The biggest difference are trees everywhere around in Barum.

[PLuto]

But problem for McShea is, that he wasnt competing long time...

[Salist]

Publication of the List of Entries:
16th Aug. 2010
18:00

[mousti]

But problem for McShea is, that he wasnt competing long time...
He's not world class but still a top driver and will be very fast. Believe me he'll be. He's one of those drivers who only needs a steer to be fast and spectacular :)

[J4MIE]

I won't be there this year now sadly but it's looking like another amazing event!!

[noel157]

Appears McShea has been testing recently with Proton as well as other cars:

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/niall-mcsheas-chance-to-battle-kris-meeke-14902909.html

[mousti]

Just heard that Loix here again will start with the Skoda works Evo2! Sanremo same story aswell! :)

[Mirek]

Yes, he will start with works car after all.

[Pinto]

At the moment, he probably is better than Cave, but Cave is still a very young driver without so much experience. I think Cave has a lot of potential for the future ;)

Both drivers are miles ahead of of cave,what has cave done in his rallying career only have a good pr machine.please do not forget tom cave's money has him tied in with proton.keith cronin is a BRC champion Niall McShea is a former PWRC champion so i think there way more deserving than cave,
Niall will adapt i have no worries with him,if he could get in to the early teen's even trade late top ten times it would be good.keith has the talent but limited experience of S2000 and events outside ireland and england

[Mirek]

Cave is 18 years old. He could have hardly achieved anything so far...

[Rally Hokkaido]

He's not world class but still a top driver and will be very fast. Believe me he'll be. He's one of those drivers who only needs a steer to be fast and spectacular :)

Well, he was world class. World Champion, in fact!

[Sarac330d]

Gr.N Champion in 2004. :-)

[cut the b.s.]

He's not world class but still a top driver and will be very fast. Believe me he'll be. He's one of those drivers who only needs a steer to be fast and spectacular :)

I'm sure people will correct me if this is wrong, but I was told that McShea was considered for the Subaru drive that Atkinson got, the deciding factor being that Atko was able to get the budget?
Its great to see McShea get this chance, I hope the car runs well for him, he was a great hope at one stage but never seemed to get well funded drives.

[urabus-denoS2000]

Are there any organised rally buses from Prague to the stages ? I mean a bus that takes me directly to the stages ( lots of buses there every year )

[Mirek]

No, there is nothing like that. Only regular transport. When do You need to go from Prague?

[urabus-denoS2000]

I'm arriving in Prague at 26. and leaving at 29. in the morning. The problem is that I'm with a group (my school class) and a bus. I'm 18 so it is possible to separate from the group but the transport is very hard.

[Mirek]

Yes, it's 300 km from Prague to Zlin and it's not easy with transport.

I'm leaving Prague 27th at around noon, so I can bring You there but I won't return until 29th night.

Also this company has direct buses from Prague to Zlin and back (in English), You can check it: http://jizdenky.studentagency.cz/Booking

[eloyf1]

I'm arriving in Prague at 26. and leaving at 29. in the morning. The problem is that I'm with a group (my school class) and a bus. I'm 18 so it is possible to separate from the group but the transport is very hard.
I was in the same situation as you last year, and apart from the help PLuto, Mirek and other Czech fans gave me for accomodation and going to Shakedown, transportation was easier than I thought.

There is a slow train (some four hours, half an hour more than expected) from Praha hl.n. to Otrokovice, and then you can go to Zlín with trolleybuses.

This link will help you to see buses and trains horaires:
http://jizdnirady.idnes.cz/vlakyautobusy/spojeni/?lng=ENGLISH

[Walach]

Skoda Motorsport had a test today :
http://www.youtube.com/v/GiIWYHrs1Hwhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQE2JsExwqE (http://www.youtube.com/v/4nh70RUku84)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1lmqBxbG0g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nh70RUku84
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiIWYHrs1Hw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QOIkYBy1cg

[Pinto]

]Cave is 18 years old. He could have hardly achieved anything so far...

Mirek cave has been round a while he started rallying in 07 in that time hes never in my oppinon had a outstanding event he has done plenty of rallies, has he sidesteped all the uk one make series and we havent seen him commit to any decent championships i think for cave to be going forward you have doing these things at this stage,yes ok he won his first rally a few weeks ago against average clubmen drivers,
you take Craig breen he is not much older and see what he has done.

[Mirek]

Ok, thanks for clarification but still I would give him time to show. It's not that far when I was 18 and I remember what a spring chicken I was :D

[Mirek]

Photos from test of Kopecký by DoN: http://rallyphotos.cz/photos/test_skoda_motorsport_zasova/

http://rallyphotos.cz/photos/test_skoda_motorsport_zasova/11.jpg

[mousti]

Well, he was world class. World Champion, in fact!
I know very well was with a car from Jos Boon Racing ;)

[noel157]

Mirek cave has been round a while he started rallying in 07 in that time hes never in my oppinon had a outstanding event he has done plenty of rallies, has he sidesteped all the uk one make series and we havent seen him commit to any decent championships i think for cave to be going forward you have doing these things at this stage,yes ok he won his first rally a few weeks ago against average clubmen drivers,
you take Craig breen he is not much older and see what he has done.

Would agree to some extent. Cave has yet to show any real spark. As mentioned he has been rallying since he was 15 in Eastern Europe (Latvia I think). But he's young and hopefully can get things moving. Not sure a jump into the IRC in the Proton was a good move.

As for Breen I can't really make my mind up on him. He embarked on a Fiesta based strategy last year which worked out well for him with the publicity gained from winning 3 of the Fiesta championships but with limited numbers in each I'm not sure how competitive they were. On the positive side he has gained a lot of experience at home and in Europe so that has to be good for him.
I don't think he adapted too well to the Fiesta S2K in the early part of the season but seems to have gradually become more comfortable with it and 19th in NORF after his recent accident in Ireland appears to be a good result.

He's in Sweden this weekend in the European leg of the Pirelli Star Driver programme running in the Snapphane Rally. Like Cave he has youth on his side so time will tell.

[Ondra WRC]

Video from today test Jan Kopecký - Petr Starý:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvBBw92UWeU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkgrfAZfiDA

[m.lowe]

Excellent pics and video guys
total Skoda fan

[Tom206wrc]

Just heard that Loix here again will start with the Skoda works Evo2! Sanremo same story aswell! :)



Right...let's prepare us for at least a new Skoda 1-2-3-4-5 at the end(Kopecky, Kresta, Valousek, Loix, Hänninen) !!!!! :rolleyes:

[Ondra WRC]

Photos of thursday test Jan Kopecký - Petr Starý: http://www.rallye-photos.com/foto_album/kopecky_test_pred_barumkou_/index.htm
and photos of friday test Jan Kopecký - Petr Starý: http://www.rallye-photos.com/foto_album/kopecky_test_druhy/index.htm

[ProRally]

I know very well was with a car from Jos Boon Racing ;)

In fact, the car was Japanese car made by Syms in Japan, it was run by Jos Boon Racing with the help of a LOT of others...

Still a miracle that he got the world championship on a shoe string budget :D :D :D

[Mirek]

Right...let's prepare us for at least a new Skoda 1-2-3-4-5 at the end(Kopecky, Kresta, Valousek, Loix, Hänninen) !!!!! :rolleyes:

That's not Skoda's fault that Peugeot fired Freddy and Nicolas...

[Walach]

Right...let's prepare us for at least a new Skoda 1-2-3-4-5 at the end(Kopecky, Kresta, Valousek, Loix, Hänninen) !!!!! :rolleyes:

Two years ago there were 9 Peugeots in Top 10... ;) Times are changing.

[m.lowe]

Where can I find pictures of the service trucks please

[Mirek]

Official entry list comes tomorrow but at least something for You today ;) There are 130 crews from 26 countries (55 foreign - highest number in last 20 years, 75 Czech). Besides that 45 historic cars in a show on some stages. S2000 record was broken. Total number of cars in N4 class is 61.


m.love: Which trucks do You need?

[RS]

Any nice surprises on the entrylist Mirek?

[Mirek]

I haven't seen the list but I guess that there is Toshi Arai ;)

[Ciko]

]Official entry list comes tomorrow but at least something for You today ;) There are 130 crews from 26 countries (55 foreign - highest number in last 20 years, 75 Czech). Besides that 45 historic cars in a show on some stages. S2000 record was broken. Total number of cars in N4 class is 61.


m.love: Which trucks do You need?
Great news!! :D
THX Mirek!

[m.lowe]

Any what Skoda use including the Mercedes please

[PLuto]

I am afraid that Toshi Arai will not start on Barum...

[Mirek]

Any what Skoda use including the Mercedes please

I'll try to gather something but it will be best after the rally.


I am afraid that Toshi Arai will not start on Barum...

My mistake :D

[Mirek]

Maps: http://www.barum.rally.cz/2010/maps.php?sec=3&lng=cz
Entry list: http://www.autosport.cz/zavody/soubor.php?f=049ead735069da381ee06f8767b65727

[PLuto]

]Maps: http://www.barum.rally.cz/2010/maps.php?sec=3&lng=cz
Entry list: http://www.autosport.cz/zavody/soubor.php?f=049ead735069da381ee06f8767b65727

Somebody should have problems with direct link, so you can download entry list from here: http://www.autosport.cz/zavody/?id=785

[Ondra WRC]

Kajto will not start in Barum Rally. :(

[Mirek]

Dušan Kouřil with Škoda Fabia R2 and Michal Sum with Škoda 130 RS as zeros.

[Hartusvuori]

28 S2000 to my count. That's a record, I think.

[Mirek]

Entry list of historic show: http://www.barum.rally.cz/2010/page.php?cont=94&sec=3&lng=en

[royg]

]Maps: http://www.barum.rally.cz/2010/maps.php?sec=3&lng=cz
Entry list: http://www.autosport.cz/zavody/soubor.php?f=049ead735069da381ee06f8767b65727

Thanks Mirek. :up:

Roy

[RS]

No Martin Prokop?

[PLuto]

No, Martin Prokop prefers to fight against two other S2000 cars in Japan...

[PLuto]

New design of Roman Kresta for Barum - http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=10906

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/df7c64dfb0ad2256b05b0715862692ba.jpg

[ProRally]

Kajto will not start in Barum Rally. :(

Any special reason ? He could do well there ....

[br21]

Any special reason ? He could do well there ....

Not enough time to polish champs round, gravel event which will be held just week later. Kajto won both gravel rounds this year so I think they prefer to test in Barum date and then try to win polish rally, it could help them a lot in championships.

[Ondra WRC]

Yes, br21 is right.

[kornes]

Could someone tell me if it's easy to get to the shakedown, and if indicated ? Thank you.

[Mirek]

It's very easy to get there because it is very close from Zlin and Otrokovice (service). Map of shakedown: http://www.barum.rally.cz/2010/ss_shakedown.php?sec=2&lng=en (click on spectator places to see detail)

It's only 3 km from service to shakedown finish with large spectator area in Pohorelice. Also walking through shakedown is easy because most of the road leads through fields. The only problem is that asphalt roads lead only to start and finish and nowhere in the middle. There are few field roads there but I can't guarantee their condition.

Here You can see where it is located (the route is not exact - see official map above): http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=komarov&daddr=763+61+Poho%C5%99elice,+%C4%8Cesk%C3%A1+repu blika&hl=cs&geocode=%3BFVFo7gIdYJILASl93Kishw0TRzHwqhVmD68ABA&mra=ls&sll=49.178705,17.535584&sspn=0.084049,0.153465&ie=UTF8&ll=49.196064,17.611771&spn=0.336078,0.613861&z=11

[kornes]

thank you very much, I find it very helpful

[Ondra WRC]

Photos from test Juho Hanninen:
http://www.rallye-photos.com/foto_album/hanninen_test_pred_barumkou/index.htm

[Mirek]

thank you very much, I find it very helpful

You're welcome. Here You can see onboard of shakedown route (starting at 2:30 with same finish): http://www.mediasport.cz/rally-cz/video/09_barum_Minarik_RZ12.html

Here is video from the spectator place at finish (I personally prefer less crowded places further in the stage): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-22p-EtTAOI

[kornes]

I also prefer little crowded places, I like fast areas.
I like the curves of 4:28 to 4:35 minutes Thanks again.

[Ondra WRC]

Photos from today test Juho Hanninen: http://www.zb-foto.yc.cz/fotky/sm_test_before_czech_rally.html
and photos by Don: http://rallyphotos.cz/photos/test_skoda_motorsport_santov/

[Bartek]

Guys, it's possible to see 3 stages on Saturday? At first stage i want see only top drivers and the other 2 stage i want see all cars. It's problem with driver from one stage to another?

[wwbroe]

Guys, it's possible to see 3 stages on Saturday? At first stage i want see only top drivers and the other 2 stage i want see all cars. It's problem with driver from one stage to another?

You mean 3 stages from one loop of 4 stages? That will be critical, especially when you want to see all cars on two out of three stages. I think it is impossible to see both Semetin and Trojak stages, so if you go to Biskupice ans stay there only for top drivers you can move to Semetin or Trojak, but never to both. You can try to do both Biskupice and Zadverice and then move to Trojak, but even that will be not that easy and you can see only few cars on both Biskupice and Zadverice. :D

[Bartek]

You mean 3 stages from one loop of 4 stages? That will be critical, especially when you want to see all cars on two out of three stages. I think it is impossible to see both Semetin and Trojak stages, so if you go to Biskupice ans stay there only for top drivers you can move to Semetin or Trojak, but never to both. You can try to do both Biskupice and Zadverice and then move to Trojak, but even that will be not that easy and you can see only few cars on both Biskupice and Zadverice. :D

I mean the three of all eight stages throughout Saturday.

[wwbroe]

I mean the three of all eight stages throughout Saturday.

Ofcourse, that should be easy to do. You can easily go to Biskupice first run trough and see more then topdrivers, and afterwards move to Trojak and see all competitors. After that you can for example move to Semetin and see all competitors again. That shouldn't be any problem. :)

[Hartusvuori]

Guys, it's possible to see 3 stages on Saturday? At first stage i want see only top drivers and the other 2 stage i want see all cars. It's problem with driver from one stage to another?

That is what we are planning to do. To see first and last stage of the morning loop and then the second run of the last morning stage as well. But we'll decide once we see the traffic, and really we haven't planned our route yet. It's work in progress.

Few questions:
- Are spectator parking all roadside or are there field parks as well?
- Should we prepare some small money for parking fees?
- When going to other places to spectate than those designated spectating areas, does every man's rights apply or are there some private areas that are definite no-go areas?
- Any poisonous animals or plants we should be aware of?

One more week and we're on.

[Mirek]

Parking mostly roadside. Sometimes it's quite long walking because of that.
Parking is free.
I don't remember any problems with private areas walking through except one. You shouldn't step on ski sloop directly at Trojak hill (crossroads from small roads to main road) because it's owner is rally hater (and one small place on city stage for same reason). Of course when there is a fence around someone's garden, don't go there without owner's permission but woods, fields or meadows are no problem.
Only some mushrooms are poisonous but I don't think You'll pick some :) To meet a viper is too rare, I saw it only few times in my life. So just take care about ticks.

[PLuto]

That is what we are planning to do. To see first and last stage of the morning loop and then the second run of the last morning stage as well. But we'll decide once we see the traffic, and really we haven't planned our route yet. It's work in progress.

Few questions:
- Are spectator parking all roadside or are there field parks as well?
- Should we prepare some small money for parking fees?
- When going to other places to spectate than those designated spectating areas, does every man's rights apply or are there some private areas that are definite no-go areas?
- Any poisonous animals or plants we should be aware of?

One more week and we're on.

- Are spectator parking all roadside or are there field parks as well?
Somewhere there are parks on field, somewhere is parking only on the road.

- Should we prepare some small money for parking fees?
If you have bought "ticket", you are not paying for parking on most of places (only if there will be private parking on their own discretion)

- When going to other places to spectate than those designated spectating areas, does every man's rights apply or are there some private areas that are definite no-go areas?
There are some private areas, but they not so many. On this places will be signs that this area is forbidden.

- Any poisonous animals or plants we should be aware of?
Difficult question. I think that many years ago some people have meet a bear :D

[PLuto]

Mirek was little bit faster...

[Hartusvuori]

- Any poisonous animals or plants we should be aware of?
Difficult question. I think that many years ago some people have meet a bear :D

A poisonous bear? :D Thanks Mirek and Pluto. So the common sense that applies to spectating rallies in Finland applies to Czech as well.

[PLuto]

Also this year we are organising "forum beer meeting" at Barum Czech Rally Zlin. Who is interested in this idea and would like to visit us, write me private message, where I will write more informations.

[Bartek]

So, i want go to SS3 and 7 Zadrevice and Trojak 5 and 9. It's possible? I think not many kilometers from both stage. What i Sheron Tribuna? Any photos from that place? Last question, where i can buy tickets? Petrol station? Near Stage? One ticket is for all rally or only for one stage.

[Hartusvuori]

Last question, where i can buy tickets? Petrol station? Near Stage? One ticket is for all rally or only for one stage.

List of sale places is on the event's website, here (http://www.barum.rally.cz/2010/page.php?cont=124&sec=2&lng=en). Rally pass recommended.

[Bartek]

List of sale places is on the event's website, here (http://www.barum.rally.cz/2010/page.php?cont=124&sec=2&lng=en). Rally pass recommended.

What is a cost of rally pass? :)

[Robisztar]

What is a cost of rally pass? :)
I think 170 czk.

[Mirek]

Sheron tribuna is VIP place. If You go there, be prepared to walk from Slusovice (it's steep uphill). Usually it's impossible to park closer. It's a place where they come from narrow road near rpm limiter and braking into right junction on wide road with some small cutting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXh7I2h3Bi4

3:43 is the spectator place
5:57 is 500 meters further - right junction after blind crest, in the video it was Kresta who was driving very crazy that year and only him and Travaglia took it sideways, others not (but sometimes there are overshots).

Onboard of Zadverice (start is different this year): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJuBhOyqMdQ
At 2:18 You can see Sheron Tribuna

Sheron Tribuna is here (cars coming from left): http://mapy.cz/#mm=F@dm=140970080+133068272+4288+1008+1840+96+347 2+768+2480-2080+2160-2912@x=140977792@y=133068144@z=16

Tickets are sold on many petrol stations and Zlin info center (also program book). Buy rally pass for 170 CZK (7 Euro) which is valid for all stages, and service. It's not expensive ;) List of petrol stations where tickets are sold is here but generally it's difficult to stop at some where they don't sell them: http://www.barum.rally.cz/2010/page.php?cont=129&sec=2&lng=cz

EDIT: I'm slow :)

[Bartek]

]Sheron tribuna is VIP place. If You go there, be prepared to walk from Slusovice (it's steep uphill). Usually it's impossible to park closer. It's a place where they come from narrow road near rpm limiter and braking into right junction on wide road with some small cutting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXh7I2h3Bi4

3:43 is the spectator place
5:57 is 500 meters further - right junction after blind crest, in the video it was Kresta who was driving very crazy that year and only him and Travaglia took it sideways, others not (but sometimes there are overshots).

Onboard of Zadverice (start is different this year): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJuBhOyqMdQ
At 2:18 You can see Sheron Tribuna

Sheron Tribuna is here (cars coming from left): http://mapy.cz/#mm=F@dm=140970080+133068272+4288+1008+1840+96+347 2+768+2480-2080+2160-2912@x=140977792@y=133068144@z=16

Tickets are sold on many petrol stations and Zlin info center (also program book). Buy rally pass for 170 CZK (7 Euro) which is valid for all stages, and service. It's not expensive ;) List of petrol stations where tickets are sold is here but generally it's difficult to stop at some where they don't sell them: http://www.barum.rally.cz/2010/page.php?cont=129&sec=2&lng=cz

EDIT: I'm slow :)

From Slusovice to stage is long road? Mirek you have got any better place in Zadrevice? Important for me is see Zadrevice and Trojak, also i search good place to go fast from Zadrevice to Trojak :)

[Mirek]

It's some 1,5 km, not that long way to walk. Frankly places which are easy to reach are not the best. Of course I understand that You want to see more stages but than there are little variants. On Zadverice I don't know, I don't like the stage. Also I don't know if You prefer some sliding or fast action :) If You like some place from the onboard I can tell You where it is.

[Bartek]

So i want see in one stage sliding section and in the other stage i want to see fast section. Zadrevice and Trojak as good for this? I saw only places in BR website and maybe you know better places with good road to stage. I belive you know what is good for rally fan :p

[Mirek]

You have PM ;)

[Ondra WRC]

Photos from test Pavel Valoušek and Freddy Loix: http://www.rallye-photos.com/foto_album/valda_loix_test/index.htm

[Rallytourist]

Photos from test Pavel Valoušek and Freddy Loix: http://www.rallye-photos.com/foto_album/valda_loix_test/index.htm


The test was when ??
Who was the Co driver of Freddy Loix ??

[Mirek]

Freddy was testing today and yesterday. I wasn't there but I think that he was with Isidoor Smets because Fred Miclotte is in Germany.

[Mirek]

Kresta's livery on real photos looks better than on painting:
http://forum.autosport.cz/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=391&start=600#p41192

[karlzoro]

can anyone give me recce shedule??

[wwbroe]

can anyone give me recce shedule??

Yes, i can give you Kevin, i will send you PM. :D

[PLuto]

can anyone give me recce shedule??

Recce schedule is in Rally guide 1 or in Regulations (all on official pages http://www.barum.rally.cz)

[PLuto]

The test was when ??
Who was the Co driver of Freddy Loix ??

I think it was Isidoor Smets...

[PLuto]

Info for foreign spectators - from this year it is possible to order results via SMS also to foreign phone numbers - more info here (http://www.barum.rally.cz/2010/page.php?cont=211&sec=2&lng=en)

[Luis Pacheco]

What an event this will be!

Seeing some images of Barum rally today compared to some I had seen in the 90s, when Enrico Bertone dominated with his Celica, I am in doubt whether the rallye at that time were already held in the area of Zlin.

[Hartusvuori]

Info for foreign spectators - from this year it is possible to order results via SMS also to foreign phone numbers - more info here (http://www.barum.rally.cz/2010/page.php?cont=211&sec=2&lng=en)

This is very good info, because otherwise I could have no idea what's going on. But one have to get to some office to order the service. That's a bit weird. Is it so for foreign numbers only? I'll check my operator though whether they charge for received messages outside Finland, or perhaps get a Czech prepaid connection.

[PLuto]

This is very good info, because otherwise I could have no idea what's going on. But one have to get to some office to order the service. That's a bit weird. Is it so for foreign numbers only? I'll check my operator though whether they charge for received messages outside Finland, or perhaps get a Czech prepaid connection.

For foreign numbers you can order it only personally on HQ, for czech numbers also via internet. I think that operators arent charging for received messages abroad.

[Mirek]

Czech operators don't but some Belgian do as Tommeke told me. So it's hard to say about Finnish...

[Ciko]

Skoda Rally Team Italia is servicing to Norbert Herczig on Borsod Rally this weekend. The team also brought Wilks's car. I took some pictures:

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/593/img0046dx.jpg
http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/4941/img0057z.jpg
http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/2234/img0068nk.jpg
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/1860/img0056qa.jpg
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/5459/img0067w.jpg

[PLuto]

Maybe it is because Guy will test his Fabia on Monday...

[Rallytourist]

]Freddy was testing today and yesterday. I wasn't there but I think that he was with Isidoor Smets because Fred Miclotte is in Germany.
Thanks for the info .

[Ondra WRC]

Video from test Juho Hanninen and Pavel Valoušek:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jls0-rwcnYA

[Mirek]

Guys, do You know if Abbring can use another car for Barum? That one he drove in Germany looks written off to me...

[Juha_Koo]

]Guys, do You know if Abbring can use another car for Barum? That one he drove in Germany looks written off to me...

Pic...?

[br21]

]Guys, do You know if Abbring can use another car for Barum? That one he drove in Germany looks written off to me...

AFAIK no Barum for Kevin.

[Mirek]

Pic...?

http://forum.autosport.cz/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=352&start=40#p41273

Watch the hole in the floor and door sill.


Some better news. Triple winner of Barum rally from the past Enrico Bertone will start with zero car for historic show with BMW M3 Gr.A :)

http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=10926

[Mirek]

Onboard from test of Roman Kresta on stage of Rallysprint Kopna: http://www.mediasport.cz/rally-cz/video/10_barum_kresta_test.html

[br21]

update for Mirek about Abbring, they are trying to see if rebuilding of the car is possible and if yes they will try to do it for Barum... decision should be made tomorrow

[Mirek]

Thanks

[RS]

Skoda Rally Team Italia is servicing to Norbert Herczig on Borsod Rally this weekend. The team also brought Wilks's car. I took some pictures:

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/593/img0046dx.jpg
http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/4941/img0057z.jpg
http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/2234/img0068nk.jpg
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/1860/img0056qa.jpg
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/5459/img0067w.jpg

Ooo, black wheels. I guess to promote this option on the Fabia RS.

[Ondra WRC]

Video from test Roman Kresta and Škoda Fabia R2:
http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/show.php?id=14812&title=testovani-pred-barum-rally-video

[Hartusvuori]

Weather forecasts predict rain for Friday, but dry weather for the rest of the event. Of course they can change to better or worse in the coming days. Hopefully it wouldn't rain though.

[jbmarcus21]

Google Earth Map : http://www.planetemarcus.com/

[MartijnS]

update for Mirek about Abbring, they are trying to see if rebuilding of the car is possible and if yes they will try to do it for Barum... decision should be made tomorrow

He was co-commentator at the Dutch 'Motors TV WRC episode' tonight and he sounded confident about getting the car ready on time, but it wasn't sure yet.

[PLuto]

Photogallery from test of Proton - http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=10931

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/b_e9bdd56136c632c20fd9ac4c8f172962.jpg

[PLuto]

Few small pictures also from Roman Kasparek - http://forum.autosport.cz/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=391&p=41387#p41387

[Salist]

Does anybody have some idea of good places on Saurday stages?
I would like to make good photos. :)

Thanks.

[Mirek]

You have PM ;)

[MartijnS]

Kevin Abbring: Packing my bags, looks like we are going to Zlin!


Facebook :)

[pettersolberg29]

Will Andreas Mikkelsen test at all this week? No information on his website - he usually updates it pretty quickly.

[Mirek]

Test of Oliveira: http://www.rallye-photos.com/foto_album/oliveira_test_barumka/index.htm

[Ondra WRC]

Photos from test Wojtek Chuchala:
http://www.wojtekchuchala.pl/chuchala-i-ciupka-testowali-przed-barum-foto

[VFTS]

Will Andreas Mikkelsen test at all this week? No information on his website - he usually updates it pretty quickly.


No. They will not have any test before start. Only shakedown.

[Mirek]

That's bad news. Shakedown of this year isn't actually bumpy enough to set the car for forest roads. He should think about putting the car higher especially for Pindula. With normal tarmac ground clearance of Fiesta it's quite dangerous as it's still touches ground. But he was here last year so he must know :)

[pettersolberg29]

No. They will not have any test before start. Only shakedown.

Thought as much. Any reason? Surely its not funds, and on a rally like this testing is required to get a half decent result.

[dimviii]

What have we got to expect from Pech?

[Robisztar]

Are there any pictures or videos about Guy Wilks' test?

[Mirek]

Robisztar: Guy drove only 6 km before his engine went into happy hunting grounds. Fly wheel broke... He will test again tomorrow with another engine.

dimviii: I think he can be close to top five if his car he has no technical problems.

[Robisztar]

]Robisztar: Guy drove only 6 km before his engine went into happy hunting grounds. Fly wheel broke... He will test again tomorrow with another engine.

dimviii: I think he can be close to top five if his car he has no technical problems.
Bad news, thanks a lot. Wish a better test and a good race!

[Ondra WRC]

Photos from test Daniel Oliveira: http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=772&fseason=2010
and Daniel Landa: http://www.rally-mania.cz/news.php?id=9742

[Mirek]

Proton test: http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=10943
Oliveira, Landa: http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=10944

[Sulland]

No. They will not have any test before start. Only shakedown.

Too bad, he would have benefited on a test I guess.

[Ondra WRC]

Photos from test Proton and Nutahara: http://www.zb-foto.yc.cz/fotky/mem.html

[Ondra WRC]

Video from test Guy Wilks: http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/show.php?id=14831&title=testovani-pred-barum-rally-guy-wilks-video

[Ondra WRC]

Photos from today test Guy Wilks: http://www.rallye-photos.com/foto_album/test_wilks_barum/index.htm

[Honza H.]

For those who are interested in the actual weather forecast around Zlín:
http://pocasi.chmi.cz/en/
For radar view go to RADAR/SATELLITE, then choose CHMI RADARS, then PREDEFINED LOCATIONS

[Ondra WRC]

Video from today test Guy Wilks and Tomáš Kostka: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgpn40KTEw8
and video from test Roman Kresta, Antonín Tlusťák and Miroslav Jakeš:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhsltrrqBBEhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgpn40KTEw8

[Honza H.]

According tu PLuto´s info on a Czech forum, so far 7 drivers sent an apology and won´t take part:
Kajetanowicz, Votava J., Pantálek, Kangur, Pletka, Votava L., Yakimakho

[Wim_Impreza]

For those who are interested in the actual weather forecast around Zlín:
http://pocasi.chmi.cz/en/
For radar view go to RADAR/SATELLITE, then choose CHMI RADARS, then PREDEFINED LOCATIONS

Or you can click on this link: http://www.weeronline.nl/Europa/Tsjechie/Zlin/4111325

They except rain for the SSS on Friday evening.

[Hartusvuori]

Bags are packed, I'm soon off to train and then early flight tomorrow towards Zlin. Let's hope all go well. Afterwards I come back here and read what actually happened :-)

[Mirek]

Skoda test - very spectacular despite the looong slow motion start:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgLe_T4LsIA

[dimviii]

sony music have blocked this video in your country :(

[Mirek]

I can't help...

113 crews are present in Zlin. List of missing crews:

Grzegorz Grzyb, Przemyslav Zawada (PL, Škoda Fabia S2000, Rufa Sport)
Kajetan Kajetanowicz, Jaroslaw Baran (Subaru Impreza Sti, Subaru Poland Rally Team)
Jan Votava, František Synáč (CZ, Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX, AH Auto Rally Team)
Milan Pantálek (Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX, Gemini Rally Team)
Loic Mattei, Francis Mazotti (F, Renault Clio R3, Loic Mattei)
Martin Kangur (EST, Honda Civic Type R R3, Martin Kangur)
Gábor Kozma, Viktória Tóth (H, Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX, Gábor Kozma)
David Nešpor, Milan Liška jr. (CZ, Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX, Klub Fox Racing Team v AČR)
Tomáš Pletka, František Rajnoha (CZ, Citroën C2 R2 Max, Tomáš Pletka)
Miloš Vágner, Radek Koťátko (CZ, Citroën C2 R2 Max, Miloš Vágner)
Libor Votava, Marcel Kraml (CZ, Mitsubishi Lancer EVO VIII, AH Auto Rally Team)
Roman Pešek (CZ, Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX, Jaroslav Orsák)
Tomáš Ondrej, Marek Podobník (SK, Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX, Tomáš Ondrej)
Mateusz Banas, Zbigniew Gruszka (PL, Renault Clio Sport, Mateusz Banas)
Jan Jakubec, Radim Orava (CZ, Honda Civic VTi, AMK Rallye Český Krumlov)
Dmitri Yakimakho, Olga Zaharova (BY, Citroën C2 R2, Dmitri Yakimakho)
Pavel Krbec, Renáta Soukupová (CZ, Honda Civic Type-R, Pavel Krbec)

[Sulland]

Hankook has made a new tarmac tyre since Ypres for Mikkelsen to use in Barum.

Will be interesting to see if that moves him closer to the top !

[Bartek]

Abbring will start?

[Mirek]

Yes, he will - with his older car.

[Honza H.]

For those following the event by computers and TV during weekend, here´s info about the Eurosport live coverage:
http://www.ircseries.com/html/readNews.asp?id=2072

[Mirek]

Photos from scrutineering:


http://brda70.rajce.idnes.cz/Barum_Rally_2010_-_technicka_prejimka/
http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/fotogalery.php?events=947&fotograf=7&all=1
http://majosex.rajce.idnes.cz/Barum_rally_2010_prejimka/

[Mirek]

Recent weather forecast: http://meteopress.cz/index.php?action=1-2-1-33-204
Precipitations: http://www.meteopress.cz/meteogram/graf1.php?id=204

They expect some small rain at Friday evening and Saturday evening. Nothing big though, only around 2 mm/m2.

[Bartek]

Any news from shakedown? :p

[Sulland]

Yes shakedown started at 1000 so are there any place that put the times on the web ?

[zajic]

Photos from shakedown of Barum Rally Zlín
http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=773&fseason=2010

[Filip]

Shakedown results:
1. Juho HÄNNINEN-Mikko MARKKULA (FIN, Škoda Fabia S2000) 2:54.2
2. Kris MEEKE-Paul NAGLE (GB/IRL, Peugeot 207 S2000) +0,7
3. Thierry NEUVILLE-Nicolas KLINGER (F, Peugeot 207 S2000) +1,7
4. Freddy LOIX-Frédéric MICLOTTE (B, Škoda Fabia S2000) +2.0
5. Bryan BOUFFIER-Xavier PANSERI (F, Peugeot 207 S2000) +2.3
6. Jan KOPECKÝ-Petr STARÝ (CZ, Škoda Fabia S2000) +3.0
7. Pavel VALOUŠEK jun.-Zdeněk HRŮZA (CZ, Škoda Fabia S2000) +3.7
8. Andreas MIKKELSEN-Ola FLOENE (N, Ford Fiesta S2000) +4.4
9. Guy WILKS-Philip PUGH (GB, Škoda Fabia S2000) +5.1
10. Tomáš KOSTKA-Vít HOUŠŤ (CZ, Škoda Fabia S2000) +5.3

[noel157]

More SD pictures here: http://www.barum.rally.cz/2010/photo.php?cont=12&sec=5&lng=en

[RS]

I see that Peugeot Sport are pretending that Peugeot Czech Republic are running Bouffier, like they did with Peugeot Italy when Ogier drove on Sardinia.

No Kresta in top 10 of shakedown?

[Filip]

I think Kresta drove 2-3 runs in the morning when road was still wet.

[pettersolberg29]

Mikkelsen had two runs at the shakedown which weren't timed due to errors by the officials, but Ola Floene personal time puts them within 1s of Hanninen on their fastest run.

[wwbroe]

Mikkelsen had two runs at the shakedown which weren't timed due to errors by the officials, but Ola Floene personal time puts them within 1s of Hanninen on their fastest run.

That is correct, he was just behind the 3 Peugeot's in the most wet runs. Juho put his fastest time only later when it was dry, and after lot of runs. In the wet conditions the Peugeots were remarkebly faster then Skoda's and Mikkelsen. :)

[noel157]

That is correct, he was just behind the 3 Peugeot's in the most wet runs. Juho put his fastest time only later when it was dry, and after lot of runs. In the wet conditions the Peugeots were remarkebly faster then Skoda's and Mikkelsen. :)

Rain tomorrow I hope. And Sunday too!

As you say Peugeots were quick in the wet. Meeke was fastest before leaving just as it started to get dry,

[Boris Ivanov]

Photos from the shakedown from Petr Sagner: http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/fotogalery.php?events=947&fotograf=7&all=1

[mousti]

I see that Peugeot Sport are pretending that Peugeot Czech Republic are running Bouffier, like they did with Peugeot Italy when Ogier drove on Sardinia.

No Kresta in top 10 of shakedown?
Well yeah pretending because of all the idiotic things Quesnel said, but u should need to see it aswell in commercial aspects ;) . Sarrazin had also the Belgian livery in Ypres. It's good commerce for the national Peugeot Brances. Just doing the same like for Loix (Skoda.be) but they're actually sponsoring it.

[Boris Ivanov]

26 minutes :D :D :D

[pettersolberg29]

How long until the 'big guns' start?

[pettersolberg29]

The stage is stopped temporarily, as Nick West is blocking the track.

[Sulland]

Is this shown live somewhere ?

[noel157]

What intervals are the cars starting at?

And as above, any local feeds/streams?

[BVB Rallying]

Is this shown live somewhere ?
Saturday 28/08/2010

Live from stop point SS6 15:00 - 15:30 Eurosport
Live from service park 19:00 - 19:30 Eurosport 2

Sunday 29/08/2010

Live from service park 12:30 - 13:00 Eurosport 2

[Sulland]

Kopecky owns this rally far !

What is the weather like today ?

[N.O.T]

if he stays on the road none will touch him...

[pettersolberg29]

Raining in next two stages I believe.

[Sulland]

So it might be that some drivers have gambled on the set up and tyres for wet and/or dry set up ?

If that is the case we could see changes in the next two ss.

[RS]

Quite pleasantly surprised by the pace of the Protons so far.

[noel157]

So it might be that some drivers have gambled on the set up and tyres for wet and/or dry set up ?

If that is the case we could see changes in the next two ss.

If the long stages starts to dry off Loix and Meeke could gain a lot of time.

Still no times anywhere.

Protons doing ok so far.

[Juha_Koo]

Great, Mediasport has gone back to the system where their videos are only available in/from Czech Rebublic. :(

[Sulland]

Quite pleasantly surprised by the pace of the Protons so far.

Yes, but would have thought McShea faster then Cronin.

[pettersolberg29]

Cronin has been great - maybe an option for Mini in the WRC? Young and British and starting to show pace on the international stage in a 'shabby' car.

[noel157]

Cronin has been great - maybe an option for Mini in the WRC? Young and British and starting to show pace on the international stage in a 'shabby' car.

He's Irish and some way away from a WRC contract. Maybe in a year or 2 perhaps.
Prodrive will or have drivers with plenty of experience and testing ability.

[N.O.T]

apart from wilks, meeke the other british talents are good for tourism around the world for the moment...hope they improve.

[Wim_Impreza]

Again a crash for Neuville this year...

[noel157]

Bad stage for Hanninen, Meeke will benefit, up to 2nd?

[pettersolberg29]

He's Irish and some way away from a WRC contract. Maybe in a year or 2 perhaps.
Prodrive will or have drivers with plenty of experience and testing ability.

Irish = British to me ;)

It depends how desperate Mini are for a British/Irish driver - possibly as a 3rd car for publicity purposes to try and increase British interest in the sport.

[Wim_Impreza]

Bad stage for Hanninen, Meeke will benefit, up to 2nd?

Hänninen was off the road in SS5.

[N.O.T]

an off for hanninen...lost 30 sec

[pettersolberg29]

Bouffier with a great time! 5s quicker than Kopecky?

[noel157]

Irish = British to me ;)

It depends how desperate Mini are for a British/Irish driver - possibly as a 3rd car for publicity purposes to try and increase British interest in the sport.

I imagine Prodrive are not in any way desperate for anything at the moment. It's a seller's market so to speak.
Irish = British? Geography wasn't your strong point I presume.

[HaCo]

Again a crash for Neuville this year...

Yep, it's a pitty. But he needs the time, it's normal :)

Watch Bouffier flying!

[pettersolberg29]

I imagine Prodrive are not in any way desperate for anything at the moment. It's a seller's market so to speak.
Irish = British? Geography wasn't your strong point I presume.

Getting Cronin would add interest to the British press I would have thought.

Irish is basically British really. We're all friends and there is little difference in language, geography and culture.

[noel157]

Bouffier fantastic time. At last somebody capable of supporting Meeke.

[noel157]

Getting Cronin would add interest to the British press I would have thought.

Irish is basically British really. We're all friends and there is little difference in language, geography and culture.

Yep big friends, the last 30 yrs really proved that. :(
What colour is the sky in the world you live in?

[Sulland]

I imagine Prodrive are not in any way desperate for anything at the moment. It's a seller's market so to speak.
Irish = British? Geography wasn't your strong point I presume.

OT: Prodrive will choose Adam Gould for the future !

[pejda]

Roman Kresta crashed too.

[pettersolberg29]

Yep big friends, the last 30 yrs really proved that. :(
What colour is the sky in the world you live in?

Of course I understand the history between Ireland and the rest of Britain, but it can't be that hard for you to understand that to everyone outside of GB and Ireland, we are one and the same. As an example, the BBC feature Irish news and sport on thier channels - they don't show French sport or any other country. Socially, we are similar and have an affinity for each other (at least in my experience).

Anyway - agree to disagree and back to IRC :)

[cut the b.s.]

Yep big friends, the last 30 yrs really proved that. :(
What colour is the sky in the world you live in?

The past 15 years have shown that you are out of date! This is an international forum, its understandable that if the inhabitants of a country cant keep up/understand its politics then how on earth can foreigners?

Back to topic, great early pace from Cronin(which I guess started your discussion) but what about Pech, home event sure but in a GpN its a fantastic performance so far

[Wim_Impreza]

Yep, it's a pitty. But he needs the time, it's normal :)

Watch Bouffier flying!

He must learn and it was better for him to drive as he did in Sardinia. This is already his 4th crash this year.

Bouffier is driving a factory Peugeot, although Quesnel wouldn't say that.