2010 IRC Rally Sanremo

[stepunk]

http://www.italiaracing.net/newsrally.asp?id=2386&nome=NEWS&cart=RALLY
It isn't official yet, but it's very likely that this year Rally Sanremo won't be a mixed event. It will be only asphalt... :(

[wwbroe]

http://www.italiaracing.net/newsrally.asp?id=2386&nome=NEWS&cart=RALLY
It isn't official yet, but it's very likely that this year Rally Sanremo won't be a mixed event. It will be only asphalt... :(

That would be a great shame, i was really looking forward to come to Tuscany again. :(

[J4MIE]

Darn :( :( :(

[Francis44]

Oh Shame.

[RS]

It is now official: http://irc.rallye-info.com/article.asp?sid=11&stid=8655

[wwbroe]

That is great shame, i was planning to go back to the San Remo rally this year, but now i think i have to reconsider. :(

[pino]

Grrrrrrrrr :mad:

[sollitt]

I am coming to San Remo this year. Is there a website or itinerary posted anywhere? Perhaps some pointers for easily accessable stages.
I have a villa in Castellina in Chianti, Tuscany. How long will it take to drive to the rally?

[pino]

I am coming to San Remo this year. Is there a website or itinerary posted anywhere? Perhaps some pointers for easily accessable stages.
I have a villa in Castellina in Chianti, Tuscany. How long will it take to drive to the rally?



Try this : http://acisanremo.it/rallysanremo/indexuk.htm

From your place it will take about 4 hours to get to Sanremo, but that's depend on ther car and your driving skills ;)

[amilk]

It is now official: http://irc.rallye-info.com/article.asp?sid=11&stid=8655



ohhh, my trip cancelled now due to this.....the great tuscany stages hopefully coming back one time

[sollitt]

Is there a map of the stages published anywhere. The website is not very informative.

[Mirek]

It's too early for maps in my opinion.

[Mintexmemory]

Is there a map of the stages published anywhere. The website is not very informative.

As far as I can see the stages will be the same as last year (rally timetable is virtually identical)
so this link will give some good indication
http://acisanremo.it/rallysanremo/2009/documenti/guida%20pubblico.pdf

;)

[sollitt]

Cheers Mintex.

I really can't see why it's too early for maps. It's only 8 weeks out and the roads must be locked in and the information public by now.

[Mintexmemory]

Cheers Mintex.

I really can't see why it's too early for maps. It's only 8 weeks out and the roads must be locked in and the information public by now.
One phrase - Programme sales. The later the stages are publicly known the greater the 5-euro per book income.

[Mirek]

In my country they always reveal maps late because they don't want both illegal recce of crews and crazy driving of media/spectators through. That makes organizers problems with getting permissions for next years. It's especially important in case of private roads.

[J4MIE]

....and they are Italian you know ;)

Seriously though, even getting the information a couple of days before the event is fine I'd say. Mostly the same roads are used so there can't really be too much variation.

[sollitt]

]In my country they always reveal maps late because they don't want both illegal recce of crews and crazy driving of media/spectators through. That makes organizers problems with getting permissions for next years. It's especially important in case of private roads.
Over here we don't have that issue at all. There are heavy penalties applied to competitors who are found driving the rally route even as a course of daily routine without permission so it generally doesn't happen. And media/spectators are not a problem.

With my own national series event we publish the routeas early as we possibly can - for this year's event 3 months prior. It allows poeple to plan, whether they be competitors, spectators, landowners or other regular road users.

[PLuto]

Over here we don't have that issue at all. There are heavy penalties applied to competitors who are found driving the rally route even as a course of daily routine without permission so it generally doesn't happen. And media/spectators are not a problem.

With my own national series event we publish the routeas early as we possibly can - for this year's event 3 months prior. It allows poeple to plan, whether they be competitors, spectators, landowners or other regular road users.

I am a part of organisation so I can say the situation from my point of view. Of course, in every country is difficult situation. We dont have so big problems with illegal recce like for example in Belgium, but we have lot of problems with normal spectators and "journalists+photographers", who are doing the stages many days/weeks ago and they are making big problems. For sure, people in the village know in time, that their village or some roads will be closed for sure.

[stepunk]

Here is the itinerary: http://acisanremo.it/rallysanremo/documenti/TDT%20CIR%20%2027%20july%20SR10.pdf

And stage maps: http://acisanremo.it/rallysanremo/documenti/Percorso%20Sanremo%20CIR%201%C2%B0%20tappa.pdf
http://acisanremo.it/rallysanremo/documenti/Percorso%20Sanremo%20CIR%202%C2%B0%20tappa.pdf

[alleskids]

Bruno Magelhaes is been given a revanche by Peugeot Portugal after his crash on Madeira, and will compete in the Sanremo Rally

[wwbroe]

Not too much info on event website, can somebody help me with gps coordinates for start & finish places of the stages? And maybe also for shakedown. If you don't want to make it public, please send me PM. :)

[JTGANG]

Good afternoon from Greece,

It the first time i am writing here so hello to everybody.....It would be very helpfull any guidance in due course to which stages are better to watch,maps etc as we have already book tickets.hotels in order to watch the rally

Thanks in advance

[Barreis]

Entry list?

[dimviii]

Good afternoon from Greece,

It the first time i am writing here so hello to everybody.....It would be very helpfull any guidance in due course to which stages are better to watch,maps etc as we have already book tickets.hotels in order to watch the rally

Thanks in advance

Welcome Jtgang!!
have a nice trip mate. ;)

[stepunk]

Entry list?

Entries will close on 13 September!
Anyway, Sanremo is also part of the Italian Championship so there will be:
Basso and Rossetti - Abarth S2000
Andreucci, Travaglia, Longhi, Chentre, Cantamessa, Cunico, Perico, Michelini - 207 S2000
Signor - Fabia S2000
Maybe Navarra and Scandola with Fiesta S2000

[Barreis]

Thanks..

[br21]

any wrc cars rumored in "leggenda"?

[Tom206wrc]

Who will drive the Citroën DS3 R3 in Sanremo ???? :confused:

[br21]

on monday they will close entry list so in next few days we should know more.
there was a forum member last year who was well orientated, he also post gps coordinates of starts and finishes etc, what was very helpfull. I hope he will help also this year :)

[Barreis]

Animrallye, I guess??

[noel157]

Who will drive the Citroën DS3 R3 in Sanremo ???? :confused:

Are Citroen Sport planing to even enter?

[modri dirkac]

Bouffier (F) for GB (Ulster Rally), Meeke for F (Mont Blanc), who will be for I? Another Peugeot driver? ;)

[JTGANG]

I have heard that there will be a presentation on Tuesday 21 Sept from Citroen Italy and also that car will join the rally...Maybe some Italian
friend can assist us with more information ????

[Mirek]

Are Citroen Sport planing to even enter?

Start of DS3 in Sanremo is confirmed officially without any more details.

[Tom206wrc]

Are Citroen Sport planing to even enter?


At the arrival of Mont-Blanc, Citroën Racing Trophy team manager confirmed Sanremo was planned(before a three rallies campaign in France) ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Bryan Bouffier would have tested the PH Sport 207 S2000 in order to prepare Sanremo !!!! Great news :bounce:

[wwbroe]

I am still looking for GPS coordinates, especially for day 2 stages and also for shakedown. There is no Italian collegues who can help me out? :)

[noel157]

At the arrival of Mont-Blanc, Citroën Racing Trophy team manager confirmed Sanremo was planned(before a three rallies campaign in France) ;)

Thanks Tom, didn't hear that. Presume the last 3 rounds of the asphalt championship in France?
Wonder who will drive in Italy.

[vino_93]

Thanks Tom, didn't hear that. Presume the last 3 rounds of the asphalt championship in France?

No, the last 2 rounds of gravel championship and the Rallye du Var I think ;)

[Tom206wrc]

No, the last 2 rounds of gravel championship and the Rallye du Var I think ;)



Critérium des Cévennes is planned with Sarrazin at the wheels :D

[Tom206wrc]

So today is the last day for register entry ;)

[noel157]

No, the last 2 rounds of gravel championship and the Rallye du Var I think ;)

Thanks Vino and Tom, maybe a chance that a driver and his wife might do Var in the car?

[stepunk]

On an Italian forum they're talking of 88 entries. But no official confirmation yet!

[pino]

On an Italian forum they're talking of 88 entries. But no official confirmation yet!


I am sure that our friend and member animrallye will post the official entry list soon :D

[JTGANG]

On an Italian forum they're talking of 88 entries. But no official confirmation yet!

Now they are saying for 98 !!!!! Can't wait to see them.....I am sure will be fantastic so will watch a great fight !!!!

[Tom206wrc]

Toni Gardemeister is looking for the rest of budget to run Sanremo in an "italian" 207 S2000 according to Racingworld ;)

[wwbroe]

Proton will start with Neil McShea and surprisingly with Gilles Panizzi. :)

[JTGANG]

and also read that Chentre will run with the DS3 ??? is that true ???

[pettersolberg29]

Panizzi back?! That would be awesome.

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Toni and Panizzi back.. would be really great!

2 great drivers coming back to IRC..

[Tom206wrc]

Yep...but you know, the Proton... :s

[JTGANG]

Travaglia will drive factory car for Fiat !!!

http://www.italiaracing.net/newsrally.asp?id=2640&nome=RALLY&cart=RALLY

[stepunk]

Yep...but you know, the Proton... :s

Cronin posted some good stage times in Barum, perhaps Gilles will surprise us!

[stepunk]

Travaglia will drive factory car for Fiat !!!

http://www.italiaracing.net/newsrally.asp?id=2640&nome=RALLY&cart=RALLY

Quite shocking news! They're trying everything they can to beat Andreucci!

[Barreis]

That's reality..

[vino_93]

Thanks Vino and Tom, maybe a chance that a driver and his wife might do Var in the car?
why not ? But ... I don't think. We'll see :p

[Sulland]

If entries was closed on the 13th, when will the entry-list be published ?

[Mirek]

Seeded entry list must be approved by FIA.

[Sulland]

Yes, but random would be nice...

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Travaglia will drive factory car for Fiat !!!

http://www.italiaracing.net/newsrally.asp?id=2640&nome=RALLY&cart=RALLY

Equal to factory car... but with support from Trico

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Yep...but you know, the Proton... :s

Even with Proton.. it's nice to see Pannizi back in IRC I think...

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Peugeot Portugal was testing this week in Portugal, in order to prepare Sanremo.

They did around 200 kms of testing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-vRwUpkEjU&feature=player_embedded

[stepunk]

Official press release: 102 entries, 30 S2000!!! http://www.rallylink.it/news/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=13705:ufficio-stampa-sanremo-una-sfida-stellare&catid=35:comunicati&Itemid=27

Proton:
Panizzi
McShea

Ford:
Mikkelssen
Navarra
Scandola

Skoda:
Hanninen
Kopecky
Wilks
Loix
Signor
Cinotto

Abarth:
Rossetti
Basso
Travaglia
Villa
Dati?

Peugeot:
Meeke
Neuville
Magalhaes
Bouffier
Wittman
Andreucci
Longhi
Cunico
Perico
Cavallini
Michelini
Cetinkaya
Sciascia
Pisi
?

[Fri]

"...dal ritorno di Gilles Panizzi all’arrivo nuova Citroen DS3..."

Is it means Panizzi will drive Citroen DS3?

[noel157]

The return of Panizzi AND the arrival of the DS3. Panizzi will be in the Proton.

[Fri]

The return of Panizzi AND the arrival of the DS3. Panizzi will be in the Proton.

thankx!

[RICARDO75]

It´s Elwis Chentre and Mathieu Arzeno that will drive the two DS3 R3.

[stepunk]

There are some mistakes in my previous list of S2000:
unfortunately it seems no Wittman in 207, but we can add Oliveira and Di Benedetto; no Dati in Abarth but Leone (onestly, I never heard of him!).

[Tom206wrc]

It´s Elwis Chentre and Mathieu Arzeno that will drive the two DS3 R3.


Two DS3s ???? Very interesting :eek:

[noel157]

I'm glad to see Mathieu Arzeno in a factory car. Enjoyed his performance in Monte Carlo.

[Sulland]

and the official list, when is that coming ?

[JTGANG]

and the official list, when is that coming ?

Gd day,

As i understand will be published tomorrow :)

[RICARDO75]

Two DS3s ???? Very interesting :eek:

Puis il y aura de bonnes nouvelles. Belle, grande et certainement beaucoup admiré: la nouvelle Citroën DS3 groupe R, c'est à dire le dernier né de la Chambre des Double Chevron "sevrés récemment et déjà vainqueur dans la catégorie. Le chef de file dans la deuxième course, avec une touche de «fierté nationale» suivra les événements Elwis Chentre dell'aostano (qui a déjà couru le drapeau tricolore avec la Peugeot 207 S2000) et le jeune Français Mathieu Arzeno. C'est donc un étonnant mélange de sport et de la technologie qui regarde vers l'avenir proche.

Then there will be good news. Beautiful, large and certainly much admired: the new Citroen DS3 R group, is the last born of the House of "double chevron"weaned recently and already a winner in the category. The lead in race two, with a touch of pride "national" will follow the events dell'aostano Elwis Chentre (who previously ran the tricolor with the Peugeot 207 S2000) and the young Frenchman Mathieu Arzeno. So this is a compelling mix of sport and technology that looks to the near future.

[Cloverleaf]

English version of the press release
http://acisanremo.it/rallysanremo/stampa/comunicati%20stampa/52%C2%B0%20rallyesanremo-c.s.4%20ENG.pdf

[Tom206wrc]

Can't wait for tomorrow :bounce:


But friday of next week will be better to come :D

[stepunk]

Official entry list online! http://acisanremo.it/rallysanremo/documenti/elenco%20iscritti%20cir.pdf

[N.O.T]

Crazy entry list.....very nice.

[wwbroe]

And not less then 31 S2000 cars on entrylist, that must be a new record. :) Great entrylist, looking forward to next week. ;)

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Nice to see that Sandro Sotille is back again :)

[Tom206wrc]

I'm very hopeful for Peugeot's new update to the 207(engine more powerful, suspension change, etc)for Ucci, Meeke, Magalhaes and Neuville :)

[Sulland]

And 6 different S2000 brands, not bad !

And a lot of the cute 500 Abarth R3T's, and a 207 R3T as well a the DS3's

Will be interesting fights !

[Mirek]

That list is great but it's seeded tragically. Especially because of the monster stage at the end of first leg :(

[wwbroe]

]That list is great but it's seeded tragically. Especially because of the monster stage at the end of first leg :(

I completely agree on that one. Can somebody explain me why Loix only has number 14, Magalhaes 15 and Bouffier even 22. :eek: It is crazy seeding with Chentre and Panizzi starting in front of these guys

[Sulland]

So are the seeding rules different for IRC, ERC and the Italian series, and could that be the reason - it is a mix ?

[wwbroe]

Even if IRC is not a FIA championship, i still think they should let guys like Loix, Magalhaes and Bouffier start more in front, let's say around number 8 to 12. I don't understand why they let Panizzi, who hasn't been driving a car in competition for ages, start in front. Alltough i understand they want to promote the all new Citroen DS3 R3, i still don't think it is normal start position for Chentre either. How many car will start at two minutes interval? Because if they start at one minute interval, it might give serious problems in startfield. :(
I also forget to mention Wilks & Neuville, they also have bad startingnumbers.

[pantealex]

Official entry list online! http://acisanremo.it/rallysanremo/documenti/elenco%20iscritti%20cir.pdf

#51 Tim Stebani (D) Opel Corsa (N4)
Is it S2000 car or turbodiesel?

[wwbroe]

#51 Tim Stebani (D) Opel Corsa (N4)
Is it S2000 car or turbodiesel?

He used to drive the S2000 Corsa, so i suppose he still is?

[Mirek]

It's 1.6T petrol FWD car. It's not homologated in R3T class, so he has to start in N4.

[wwbroe]

Ok, thanks Mirek for the clarification :)

[J4MIE]

12.3.1
Start of Section 1 - 2 will be given according to racing numbers, the lower racing number will start first, with the exception
of different decisions taken by the Stewards of the Meeting. The start of the Sections 5 and 6 will be given according to day 2 starting list. The interval between FIA priority drivers will be 2 minutes and between all other drivers 1 minute.
12.3.2 The starting order for Sections 3 and 4 will be established according to the general classification after Section 2.
The Clerk of the Course, after talking with the Stewards, will be allowed to re-locate crews that have been considered in an anomalous position. All FIA priority drivers will always start with 2 minutes intervals.

Agree some of the seeding is a bit weird, maybe the order will be changed to suit by the organisers before the start. But looks a great entry list :up:

[Mirek]

Even if IRC is not a FIA championship, i still think they should let guys like Loix, Magalhaes and Bouffier start more in front, let's say around number 8 to 12. I don't understand why they let Panizzi, who hasn't been driving a car in competition for ages, start in front. Alltough i understand they want to promote the all new Citroen DS3 R3, i still don't think it is normal start position for Chentre either. How many car will start at two minutes interval? Because if they start at one minute interval, it might give serious problems in startfield. :(
I also forget to mention Wilks & Neuville, they also have bad startingnumbers.

Even more crazy is Arzeno with No.85...

[Tom206wrc]

Yep Arzeno will get serious disadvantage compared to Chentre and could be serously hampered by the slowest of the Clio R3 drivers :s

[wwbroe]

I agree also on that one, Arzeno get's really bad startnumber, especially if you compare with Chentre. I wonder who came up with this seeding? :(

[Sulland]

]It's 1.6T petrol FWD car. It's not homologated in R3T class, so he has to start in N4.

I thought it was the S2000, he used to drive, so then 5 brands, but still: WRC eat you heart out !!

[Mirek]

In fact he used to drive 1.6T FWD. He drove S2000 only twice ;)

[mousti]

]In fact he used to drive 1.6T FWD. He drove S2000 only twice ;)
Yep indeed Though Rally-Magazin.de announced that. Wasn't it that he drives with that Corsa to promote it a bit?

[noel157]

I agree also on that one, Arzeno get's really bad startnumber, especially if you compare with Chentre. I wonder who came up with this seeding? :(

What position was Arzeno in when he went off in Monte Carlo?

[Mirek]

Yep indeed Though Rally-Magazin.de announced that. Wasn't it that he drives with that Corsa to promote it a bit?

All I know is that he is driving his own 1.6T FWD according to himself.


What position was Arzeno in when he went off in Monte Carlo?

Leading 2WD by 2 minutes and 13th overall.

[noel157]

]All I know is that he is driving his own 1.6T FWD according to himself.



Leading 2WD by 2 minutes and 13th overall.

Thanks.

So seeded at 85? Madness, very unfair and even dangerous.

[J4MIE]

True but isn't seeding done by previous results, rather than "speed" which is very open to interpretation? I'm sure if there is a real case for it then it will be sorted out, these organisers are not new to the sport :)

[Mirek]

I agree that they are not new but when they seeded this, they had to smoke something really strong (Bouffier behind Signor, Wilks behind Sottile with R3, Loix behind Perico and Chentre with R3, Arzeno behind all R3 except Fiat 500 cup and starting after Puskady etc.). The problem is that there is 40 km long night stage where in all these cases overtaking is more than sure.

[pucky54]

yes, the seeding is not the best thats for sure. May be they will change the starting order, but if not there is only one thing that is better. In the dark you can better notice when a car is behind you because of the lights

[RS]

No Gardemeister in the end?

[JTGANG]

I totally agree with the comments of some very bad positions and specially for Arzeno..It is indeed unfair....

As far as i know at San Remo in the long 44km night stage they are entering not with the starting number but with their overall position until this stage
....so for example if Bouffier will leading until then will start first not No 24

I think some Italian friend can confirm same

[Mirek]

That would be great ;)

[pucky54]

As far as i know at San Remo in the long 44km night stage they are entering not with the starting number but with their overall position until this stage
....so for example if Bouffier will leading until then will start first not No 24


Looks like that, because we have 3 hours of regrouping before the stage

[Tom206wrc]

No Gardemeister in the end?



I fear no :(

[stepunk]

I totally agree with the comments of some very bad positions and specially for Arzeno..It is indeed unfair....

As far as i know at San Remo in the long 44km night stage they are entering not with the starting number but with their overall position until this stage
....so for example if Bouffier will leading until then will start first not No 24

I think some Italian friend can confirm same

12.3 Starting Order – Intervals
12.3.1 Start of Section 1 - 2 and 5 will be given according to racing numbers, the lower racing
number will start first, with the exception of different decisions taken by the Stewards of
the Meeting. The interval between FIA priority drivers will be 2 minutes and between all
other drivers 1 minute.
12.3.2 The starting order for Sections 3 and 4 will be established according to the general
classification after Section. 2 and 3.
The Clerk of the Course, after talking with the Stewards, will be allowed to re-locate
crews that have been considered in an anomalous position. All FIA priority drivers will
always start with 2 minutes intervals

But I don't understand why start of section 5 will be given according to racing numbers...

[PLuto]

I fear no :(

No, in same date he will be in Latvia.

[stepunk]

12.3 Starting Order – Intervals
12.3.1 Start of Section 1 - 2 and 5 will be given according to racing numbers, the lower racing
number will start first, with the exception of different decisions taken by the Stewards of
the Meeting. The interval between FIA priority drivers will be 2 minutes and between all
other drivers 1 minute.
12.3.2 The starting order for Sections 3 and 4 will be established according to the general
classification after Section. 2 and 3.
The Clerk of the Course, after talking with the Stewards, will be allowed to re-locate
crews that have been considered in an anomalous position. All FIA priority drivers will
always start with 2 minutes intervals

But I don't understand why start of section 5 will be given according to racing numbers...

Ok, with modifications written in this bullettin http://acisanremo.it/rallysanremo/documenti/Bulletin%20n.2%20-%20CIR2010.pdf everything is clear!

[JTGANG]

As we will travel to see the rally,any suggestions regarding to which stages are best to seen from our Italian friends ???

Thanks in advance

[N.O.T]

San Remo always gathers the best every year....but the night long stage clears things up very early every year so we don't have any battles for the longer period of the event. Hope things change this year...

[noel157]

What do we need for the championship to continue on to Scotland?
Meeke or Freddy to win and Hanninen to finish where...or not to finish?

[N.O.T]

hmmm meeke i think is out of contention under normal circumstances....the ideal would be kopecky winnng...haninnen out and Loix between 2nd and 3rd

meeke is 34 points behind leader hanninen so no title hopes....if hanninen (62 points) contests all of the remaining rounds.

Kopecky has 48 points and Loix 30...

the winner gets 10 points....

but you count only the 7 best results out of 12.....

[stepunk]

As we will travel to see the rally,any suggestions regarding to which stages are best to seen from our Italian friends ???

Thanks in advance

Well known place are:
Borello access where you can watch s.s. 1-3 and 6;
Passo Ghimbegna where, walking for a few hundreds of meters, you can see the start of s.s. 2, the end of s.s.4 and s.s.6
Apricale: tight hairpin in the town (s.s. 4 and 6).

For day 2, Passo Teglia (s.s. 8-11) is a wonderful place but you have to go before they close the road. Otherwise i suggest you San Bernardo di Conio (s.s. 8-11) where you can find a nice inversion.

[eppel]

Peugeot Sport are ready with the evolution 3 of the 207 S2000. A new engine with 300 horsepower is one of the upgrades.

http://www.rallysportlive.com/2010/09/the-peugeot-207-s2000-evolution-joins-the-fray/

[edacurf]

Starting....

[edacurf]

Panizzi

[noel157]

Peugeot Sport are ready with the evolution 3 of the 207 S2000. A new engine with 300 horsepower is one of the upgrades.

http://www.rallysportlive.com/2010/09/the-peugeot-207-s2000-evolution-joins-the-fray/

Suppose better late than never but the press article sounds more like a sales promotion than anything (but I suppose it has to). Most of these upgrades were supposed to be in place before Ypres on the cars, well at least on Meeke's car.
Let's hope they work well enough (think Meeke and Sarrazin tested these earlier this month) that Skoda will at least have some opposition and make things more interesting for us.

Panizzi and McShea talk during testing earlier this week: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/86850

[Mirek]

Sanremo is Peugeot-friendly rally ;)

[JTGANG]

Well known place are:
Borello access where you can watch s.s. 1-3 and 6;
Passo Ghimbegna where, walking for a few hundreds of meters, you can see the start of s.s. 2, the end of s.s.4 and s.s.6
Apricale: tight hairpin in the town (s.s. 4 and 6).

For day 2, Passo Teglia (s.s. 8-11) is a wonderful place but you have to go before they close the road. Otherwise i suggest you San Bernardo di Conio (s.s. 8-11) where you can find a nice inversion.

Many thanks !!!!!!!

[alleskids]

Hanninen 62 points out of 8 resuslts - best 7 results:56 points
his worst point result is 3rd, so he only scores points with 2nd places.
Kopecky 47 points out of 7 results - worst point result is 5th
Meeke, Wilks and Loix have to win Sanremo, Scotland and Cyprus, with Hanninen not higher then 3rd

Hanninen 56 (has to do beter then 6 points )
Kopecky 47(has to do better then 4 points)
Loix 30 (best possible result 60)
Meeke 28 (best possible result 58)
Wilks 27 (best possible result 57)

[Mirek]

Forget Loix, he won't drive anything else except Sanremo.

[vino_93]

What team for Arzeno and Chentre ?

[Mirek]

I think that only PH Sport has DS3 in the moment ;)

[pettersolberg29]

]Forget Loix, he won't drive anything else except Sanremo.

Is that certain? What if he wins San Remo and Hanninen retires? Then he could still win the championship. Unlikely but possible.

[wwbroe]

San Remo will be his last rally in IRC this year, there are no plans for other IRC starts, at least not this year. And if not Hanninen wil be the champion it will be Kopecky, so it is allways for Skoda driver, so no need for Freddy to do any more rally's this year. :)

[edacurf]

panizzi

[edacurf]

panizzi

x

[J4MIE]

Well thanks to the French air traffic strike my trip has been cancelled, I am not happy at all and have been looking forward to this for months!! Hope nobody else has problems and I'm sure it will be an even more exciting event now ;)

[noel157]

Bad luck Jamie, small consolation but hopefully your insurance / credit card will refund you.
Don't think it's worth trying to fly direct to Italy rather than Nice? Assuming you can avoid French airspace.

[wwbroe]

We are avoiding French airspace by flying from Brussels to Munich and then on to Genova. It is little bit further away from San Remo then Nice but i hope we can make it that way.

[noel157]

We are avoiding French airspace by flying from Brussels to Munich and then on to Genova. It is little bit further away from San Remo then Nice but i hope we can make it that way.

Nice drive along the coast (most of the way) and great views, maybe 2 hours or so to San Remo I think?

[Barreis]

Really great views.. :)

[noel157]

Andreucci test. Does the car sound different to other 207s? Presume it has the upgrades? Pictures first but video after 3 mins:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gI6dHYFXLY

[Mirek]

According to Peugeot press release 5 cars are upgraded for Sanremo - Meeke, Andreucci, Bouffier, Magalhaes, Neuville.

Anyway this one doesn't have the new 2011 door and plastic windows.

[noel157]

]According to Peugeot press release 5 cars are upgraded for Sanremo - Meeke, Andreucci, Bouffier, Magalhaes, Neuville.

Anyway this one doesn't have the new 2011 door and plastic windows.

Yep, you are right, same as the Peugeot Sport test car that Bouffier tested a couple of weeks ago:

http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/552616IMGP4873.jpg

[J4MIE]

Bad luck Jamie, small consolation but hopefully your insurance / credit card will refund you.
Don't think it's worth trying to fly direct to Italy rather than Nice? Assuming you can avoid French airspace.

There was a small chance of going to Milan instead but wasn't wanting to drive that far, was hoping for a nice relaxing event and had planned to even just watch and not take photos. Luckily will get flight refunded and managed to cancel hire car at no cost. Ironically, if I had got round to buying travel insurance it would've been the only thing that would have cost me!

Good luck getting there Walter :up: I will try again next year ;)

[wwbroe]

Nice drive along the coast (most of the way) and great views, maybe 2 hours or so to San Remo I think?

It is about 145 Kms from Genova to San Remo, so i guess we can do it in 1 1/2 hours, as most of the road is highway. We did that road plenty times in the good old days when San Remo had some stages in Toscany. :D

[Mirek]

Skoda on same road as Andreucci: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScdLGgk8eR0

[RS]

The Skoda still sounds more awesome even if the Peugeot has 300BHP now :D

Anyone know if the live stage to be shown on RAI Sport will be available online?

[Tom206wrc]

First pics scruteneering and assistance :bounce: :bounce:
http://www.rallylink.it/news/index.php?option=com_rsgallery2&Itemid=409

[Ondra WRC]

Online times from shakedown?

[PLuto]

Results from rally will be as usual here - http://www.irc-results.com/

[Ucci]

So, has anyone courage to predict winner in 2WD class?? Sottile, maybe even Chentre or somebody with Clio R3???

[Mirek]

Arzeno and Campana will also be very fast but still I think Sottile will be the man to beat.

[noel157]

I think SD has been delayed, no?

Edit - car blocking stage?

Latest times:


Meeke 2.08
Andreucci 2.09
Kopecky 2.10
Hanninen 2.10
Wilks 2.13
Bouffier 2.13
Panazzi 2.23

[Tom206wrc]

Where did you find these SD times Noel :confused:

[noel157]

[quote="Tom206wrc"]Where did you find these SD times Noel :confused: [/QUOTE

By email from somebody in San Remo.

I think Stebani is off in the Corsa but not sure. Stage stopped for recovery.

[noel157]

Tom, those crews only did 2 runs about an hour ago so I don't know what is happening now. Meeke has left the SD.
Times may get quicker, I don't know.

[noel157]

UNOFFICIAL Final SD times:

Meeke 2.06.0 (2 runs)
Kopecky 2.06.9 (4)
Andreucci 2.07.3 (2)
Hanninen 2.07.6 (4)
Scandola 2.08.3 (4)
Basso 2.08.5 (3)
Loix 2.09.2 (3)
Bouffier 2.09.2 (4)
Rossetti 2.09.3 (3)
Perico 2.09.9 (3)
Maga 2.10.1 (4)
Wilks 2.2.10.7 (3)

[noel157]

UNOFFICIAL Final SD times:

1 Meeke 2.06.0 (2 runs)
2 Kopecky 2.06.9 (4)
3 Andreucci 2.07.3 (2)
4 Hanninen 2.07.6 (4)
5 Scandola 2.08.3 (4)
6 Basso 2.08.5 (3)
7 Loix 2.09.2 (3)
8 Bouffier 2.09.2 (4)
9 Rossetti 2.09.3 (3)
10 Perico 2.09.9 (3)
11 Maga 2.10.1 (4)
12 Wilks 2.10.7 (3)

[noel157]

Is the start order tomorrow the same as championship order or top 10 championship reversed or.....?

[Mirek]

Tomorrow they start according to numbers into first two sections of short stages and than to the night section according to current positions.

[J4MIE]

So, has anyone courage to predict winner in 2WD class?? Sottile, maybe even Chentre or somebody with Clio R3???

Colin R Smith has chosen not to do Sanremo to concentrate om Rally of Scotland (McRae slStages on Saturday uses some of the same stages) so he can't fight for the 2WD victory now :( ;)

[noel157]

]Tomorrow they start according to numbers into first two sections of short stages and than to the night section according to current positions.

Thanks Mirek, start as seeded and then re-group before Ronde.

[RS]

Is Loix still with the works Skoda team? I see his car is back in BFO-Blue rather than Skoda green.

[pucky54]

Is Loix still with the works Skoda team? I see his car is back in BFO-Blue rather than Skoda green.

Yes, same colors like in Ypres

[Mirek]

UNOFFICIAL Final SD times:

1 Meeke 2.06.0 (2 runs)
2 Kopecky 2.06.9 (4)
3 Andreucci 2.07.3 (2)
4 Hanninen 2.07.6 (4)
5 Scandola 2.08.3 (4)
6 Basso 2.08.5 (3)
7 Loix 2.09.2 (3)
8 Bouffier 2.09.2 (4)
9 Rossetti 2.09.3 (3)
10 Perico 2.09.9 (3)
11 Maga 2.10.1 (4)
12 Wilks 2.10.7 (3)

Official time of Meeke is 2:06,8. Neuville 2:12,2, Travaglia 2:13,4.

[Barreis]

Panizzi?

[Hartusvuori]

Top 10 shakedown times

1 Kris Meeke (Peugeot 207 S2000) 2m06.0s
2 Jan Kopecký (Škoda Fabia S2000) 2m06.9s
3 Juho Hänninen (Škoda Fabia S2000) 2m07.6s
4 Umberto Scandola (M-Sport Ford Fiesta S2000) 2m08.3s
5 Giandomenico Basso (Abarth Grande Punto S2000) 2m08.5s
6 Paolo Andreucci (Peugeot 207 S2000) 2m08.6s
7 Bryan Bouffier (Peugeot 207 S2000) 2m09.2s
8 Freddy Loix (Škoda Fabia S2000) 2m09.2s
9 Luca Rossetti (Abarth Grande Punto S2000) 2m09.3s
10 Guy Wilks (Škoda Fabia S2000) 2m10.7s

These were posted on IRC website.

[noel157]

Thanks Hartusvuori. One thing that has been obvious this past season is that some organisers don't publicise SD time whilst others do. SD times are important to some extent and keeps up the interest in the event. Why should we have to wait 5 or 6 hrs after SD to find out the times?
Couldn't find any on the net this afternoon and had to rely on a friend supplying them by email.

Panizzi Q & A http://www.ircseries.com/html/ReadDynNews.asp?id=16

[pettersolberg29]

Anyone know much about Scandola? Haven't seen his name before as far as I remember.

[Mirek]

He was test driver of Abarth for several years. They split last year. In 2008 he was leading Sanremo before he crashed on Ronde stage. Now he's occasionally starting with Fiesta or other cars. Quite young guy and fast on Italian asphalt but also not very reliable driver. I don't remember many of his international starts. I think he drove Valais and Madeira in 2008 but crashed in both if my memory serves me well.

[mousti]

]He was test driver of Abarth for several years. They split last year. In 2008 he was leading Sanremo before he crashed on Ronde stage. Now he's occasionally starting with Fiesta or other cars. Quite young guy and fast on Italian asphalt but also not very reliable driver. I don't remember many of his international starts. I think he drove Valais and Madeira in 2008 but crashed in both if my memory serves me well.
And made a nice dive in Ypres , Epic! :D

[ProRally]

And made a nice dive in Ypres , Epic! :D

Into the lake if I remember well.... :D :D :D

[N.O.T]

Anyone know much about Scandola? Haven't seen his name before as far as I remember.

and was the guy whose career Alen destroyed in favour of his son...

Scandola could be the next big thing from italy but Mr alen didn't like his son to be ridiculed when they were in FIAT together and slowly he moved him out of the team.

[stepunk]

]Quite young guy and fast on Italian asphalt but also not very reliable driver.

Maybe much faster on gravel, IMHO! ;)

[stepunk]

It's raining around Sanremo!
Andreucci must be happy, with his Pirellis!

[pucky54]

...others, who only have tested in the dry, won't be so happy about it

[pettersolberg29]

Thanks for the Scandola info guys - was surprised to see him so hign in the SD times but maybe I shouldn't be so shocked.

Mikkelsen very happy thats its raining - feels his Hankooks are great wet tires.

Stage starting in about 45 mins?

[Francis44]

About 30 minutes to start now.

[noel157]

Any feeds from the Italian broadcasters today or tomorrow?

[stepunk]

No more rain and roads are drying a lot (maybe just a little bit dump, now)

[Luis Pacheco]

Basso with wrong tire choice.

[noel157]

Plenty of quotes but only one time on
http://www.irc-results.com/2010/irc/sanremo/1irc.php

Problems PLuto?

[pettersolberg29]

Mikkelsen retired already...

[FAlonso]

Seems like brakes are being an issue, for the Puntos at least.

[Mirek]

Mikkelsen crashed.

[noel157]

Plenty of quotes but only one time on
http://www.irc-results.com/2010/irc/sanremo/1irc.php

Problems PLuto?

They are starting to appear.

[Mirek]

Plenty of quotes but only one time on
http://www.irc-results.com/2010/irc/sanremo/1irc.php

Problems PLuto?


Pluto is in Pribram, not on internet now. As far as I know guys are waiting for automatic times from Italy but they are coming quite late.

[noel157]

]Pluto is in Pribram, not on internet now. As far as I know guys are waiting for automatic times from Italy but they are coming quite late.

No worries. It's looking to a very good event. Tyre lottery perhaps, no?

[Sulland]

]Mikkelsen crashed.

Do anyone know more on this one ?

[noel157]

Stuck on side of stage after small off according to RR.

[Mirek]

McShea is missing somewhere on road section and Oliveira hasn't left service park if I understand right to what is written on rallylink.it.

[pucky54]

]McShea is missing somewhere on road section and Oliveira hasn't left service park if I understand right to what is written on rallylink.it.

Correct

[Mirek]

Oliveira started 16 minutes late.

[rage82]

Hi guys! What's going on with Chentre and the Citroen ?

[pucky54]

Hi guys! What's going on with Chentre and the Citroen ?

He set a quite good time with 9:17

[rage82]

He set a quite good time with 9:17

Sorry, but I can't see him on the first stage.

[Mirek]

If You watch IRC Results, You have to switch to ALL mode to see non-IRC competitors. Citroën is not registered into IRC.

[ZequeArgentina]

I do not knowmuch about Chentre, how fast is he? Young? background?

I want to know how to consider DS3T times.

[Mirek]

He is champion of TRA 2009.

[rage82]

]If You watch IRC Results, You have to switch to ALL mode to see non-IRC competitors. Citroën is not registered into IRC.

Thanks Mirek, it's written but... :)

[RS]

and was the guy whose career Alen destroyed in favour of his son...

Scandola could be the next big thing from italy but Mr alen didn't like his son to be ridiculed when they were in FIAT together and slowly he moved him out of the team.

Can you elaborate on that? Because it seems they run back to Finland and tell different stories from what one reads on these forums.

[Mirek]

SS1 probably stopped after accident of Botta. Crew should be ok.

[Tom206wrc]

Mmmmh very nice start of rally from Bryan Bouffier :cool:

[Mirek]

Car of Botta burnt completely. Crew is ok. SS1 canceled. Our friend is there.

[ProRally]

More news on McShea ?

[Mirek]

Rain again started on SS2.

[Bartek]

in tv any relations live or something?

[noel157]

More news on McShea ?

Appears he had a mechanical problem on the road section to SS1.

[stepunk]

in tv any relations live or something?

Only s.s. 9 will be broadcasted live on Rai Sport Sat.

[Tom206wrc]

With the incident of SS1(Botta off, stage stopped) and rain coming on SS2(after first crews) you can easily measure the disadvantage of Arzeno(compared to Chentre) :mad:

[noel157]

Arzeno on SD (sound is strange or Turbo is weird :( )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAxs-nYI2rI

[noel157]

With the incident of SS1(Botta off, stage stopped) and rain coming on SS2(after first crews) you can easily measure the disadvantage of Arzeno(compared to Chentre) :mad:

I agree Tom, big disadvantage for Arzeno with such a low starting order and he will need good times to be re-seeded tonight and some good luck with no stoppages and weather.

Arzeno on SD (sound is strange or Turbo is weird )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAxs-nYI2rI

[stepunk]

Second loop of stage delayed of 38 minutes (as a consequence of Botta's accident on s.s. 1)

[dimviii]

I agree Tom, big disadvantage for Arzeno with such a low starting order and he will need good times to be re-seeded tonight and some good luck with no stoppages and weather.

Arzeno on SD (sound is strange or Turbo is weird )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAxs-nYI2rI

Νο strange noises,just antilag and straight cut gears.

[Mirek]

Arzeno was given almost one minute worse time by stewards on SS1 than Chentre with same car...

[dimviii]

ss3 is dry.

[dimviii]

Hanninen after 3ss in front of all Italians in asphalt.Before two years this would be a joke.Really impressive his progress in asphalt for a Fin guy.

[pettersolberg29]

Did Meeke say he lost the brakes in SS3? Makes a stage win all the more impressive.

[OldF]

Hanninen after 3ss in front of all Italians in asphalt.Before two years this would be a joke.Really impressive his progress in asphalt for a Fin guy.

It seems that Juho is the third Finn that can drive also on tarmac. The two other was IMO Henri Toivonen and Tommi Mäkinen.

If the rally continues like this there’s going be tight fights.

[noel157]

Did Meeke say he lost the brakes in SS3? Makes a stage win all the more impressive.

Yes, brakes started to boil.

[Mirek]

Juho has been just incredible so far :D

[dimviii]

Ucci must be very fast at ss4 from gaps between skodas :eek:

[dimviii]

Travaglia must be on problem?

edit...puncture

[Mirek]

Puncture

[Ucci]

I'm a bit disappointment over the pace of Navarra, Longhi, Travaglia and U.Scandola-we must be awere that those are drivers who knew this stages very well, but their gap is already 30 or even more seconds...Let's hope that they will use their knowledge on the night stage...
But no such worries for Andreucci&Basso&Rossetti-they are all in the striking distance.....
Not to forget-brilliant performance from Elwis Chentre with new DS3 R3T !!! He has a big fight with sandro Sottile, who is absolute favorite in front driven class!! All bunch of Clio's R3 are behind new DS3 R3T !!! There are definitely some serious faces in the Renault camp at the service point. Yust push Elwis, yust push...
What is the weather forecast for this evening???

[noel157]

Did Meeke say he lost the brakes in SS3? Makes a stage win all the more impressive.

Gravel voice was right. Worried about brakes on SS4.

[dimviii]

Also Sottile is very fast!

[Mirek]

All bunch of Clio's R3 are behind new DS3 R3T !!!

They drove SS2 in rain, Chentre not. Some of them like Ferrari were faster on SS1, some where stucked there after Botta's accident. They hasn't driven SS3 yet...

[dimviii]

Number 5 Ucci is missing....

edit ok


F o r z a U c c i !

[N.O.T]

Can you elaborate on that? Because it seems they run back to Finland and tell different stories from what one reads on these forums.

unfortunatelly i cannot... in public.

[dimviii]

Scandola out of road :(

[N.O.T]

scandolla out...38 minutes ss delay.

[Ucci]

Oh yes, Andreucci&Roxsy absolute equal times on SS5!!

[Tom206wrc]

Careful the monster stage is coming in a few hours :s

[pucky54]

Arzeno faster than Chentre on the last loop (3 stages)

[OldF]

Lets see if the Eurosport broadcast will be on time. There’s again snooker before IRC and it means IRC could be delayed.

[sollitt]

Can anybody tell me the address of the service park that I can put into my GPS?

[OldF]

Can anybody tell me the address of the service park that I can put into my GPS?

"There will be only one Service Park for the entire duration of the rally located in Sanremo - Lungomare Italo
Calvino, Piazzale Carlo Dapporto and Corso Nazario Sauro."

http://acisanremo.it/rallysanremo/documenti/rally%20guide.pdf

Hope that help.

[noel157]

Can anybody tell me the address of the service park that I can put into my GPS?

18038 Sanremo IM.

[dimviii]

Will the local guns take advantage at the night monster ss?

I CAN T WAIT :p :

[dimviii]

at ss6 (44km) was raining for about 20 minutes.Now it stoped raining but some fog at 33km. :dozey:

[noel157]

at ss6 (44km) was raining for about 20 minutes.Now it stoped raining but some fog at 33km. :dozey:

I think it was raining on the lower parts of the Ronde stage, tyre choice is going to be crucial.

[tolis]

I wish there was live coverage.

[dimviii]

I wish there was live coverage.

yes with cameras at both start and finish to see tyre choices and comments :D
also and 5 splits :p :

[HaCo]

Split times available for the long stage?

[dimviii]

Split times available for the long stage?
:(

[tolis]

yes with cameras at both start and finish to see tyre choices and comments :D
also and 5 splits :p :
And also with helicopter coverage at night... :p :

[noel157]

Interesting tyre choice from the Skodas, cut slicks. Wonder what Kronos is running?

[ZequeArgentina]

Arzeno going up, even with his "penalization" for cancellation of SS1 for lower starters!

[Tom206wrc]

We should get soon first results SS6 :confused:

[br21]

yep, andreucci first

[bt52b]

Interesting tyre choice from the Skodas, cut slicks. Wonder what Kronos is running?

I think someone on RR said Meeke is on inters

[noel157]

Hanninen have an overshoot?

[dimviii]

Ucci 25 sec faster than Meeke? :eek:

[bt52b]

Meeke spin, near end of stage, damaged rear left wheel, lost 25s