2010 New Teams World Championship

[maximilian]

I thought it would be fun to keep tabs on how the new teams would fare if they had their own little championship. For ease, I decided to just assign points according to the longstanding old system of 9-6-4-3-2-1, and to classify cars even if they don't finish the race. Perhaps there could be extra points for "pole" and "fastest lap", but ultimately those are gimmicks. So far, Kovalainen is on track to be World Champion! ;)




Driver 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT

Kovalainen 9 9 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 18
Glock 4 4 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 8
Trulli 6 1 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 7
Chandhok 1 6 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 7
DiGrassi 3 3 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 6
Senna 2 2 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 4

Team 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT

Lotus 18 18 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 36
Virgin 7 7 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 14
Hispania 3 8 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 11

[EuroTroll]

Cool idea. Keep it up! :up:

[AndyL]

Good work, will be interesting to see how this progresses over the season. One small correction - I think Lotus should have 15+10=25 in the constructors, not 36.

[turismo6]

Good work!

[Somebody]

For ease, I decided to just assign points according to the longstanding old system of 9-6-4-3-2-1, and to classify cars even if they don't finish the race....

Very arbitrary, isn't it? Not only have cars never been classified if they don't cover a certain percentage of the race-winner's distance, but 9-for-a-win was abandoned twenty years ago, and for practically all that time (including 1990, the final 9-6-4-3-2-1 season), only a driver's best X results counted. It wasn't until they went to 10-for-a-win that it became standard to count all results.

[maximilian]

Good work, will be interesting to see how this progresses over the season. One small correction - I think Lotus should have 15+10=25 in the constructors, not 36.
Oopsie, sure enough! Thanks, I KNEW I had to have at least ONE mistake in there! :D



Driver 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT

Kovalainen 9 9 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 18
Glock 4 4 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 8
Trulli 6 1 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 7
Chandhok 1 6 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 7
DiGrassi 3 3 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 6
Senna 2 2 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 4

Team 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT

Lotus 15 10 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 25
Virgin 7 7 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 14
Hispania 3 8 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 11

[maximilian]

OK, we can do it with 10 too ... no objections ;)

Here ya go:



Driver 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT

Kovalainen 10 10 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 20
Glock 4 4 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 8
Trulli 6 1 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 7
Chandhok 1 6 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 7
DiGrassi 3 3 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 6
Senna 2 2 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 4

Team 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT

Lotus 16 11 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 27
Virgin 7 7 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 14
Hispania 3 8 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 11

[UltimateDanGTR]

nice iea, could be an interesting development throughout the season

[VkmSpouge]

It's looking good so far, if only Virgin could actually get their cars to the finish.


Very arbitrary, isn't it?

As much as any other points system.

[woody2goody]

Nice idea :)

I like classifying all the cars, because at this point, for the new teams at least, how far they go into the race is as significant as their finishing positions.

[Old Eyes]

Excellent idea - bit like the Jim Clark trophy back in 1987/88.

[eloyf1]

Senna completed more laps than both Virgins in Bahrain... He retired one lap later than Glock, and far later than Di Grassi (Lap 3)...

[eloyf1]

Then, this is the classification:


Driver 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT

Kovalainen 9 9 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 18
Trulli 6 1 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 7
Chandhok 1 6 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 7
Glock 3 4 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 7
Senna 4 2 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 6
DiGrassi 2 3 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 5

Team 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT

Lotus 15 10 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 25
Hispania 5 8 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 13
Virgin 5 7 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 12

[maximilian]

You guys feel free to run your own parallel count with any points system you wanna use. I think it would be interesting to see if it makes any difference in the end. I am by no means married to the 9-6-4-3-2-1 ;)

[jens]

There is not much to compare against Lotus, they are going to be in their own class. Main question is about HRT v Virgin, but Virgin needs to find the ability to finish races if they want to end up ahead there.

Awarding points based on how late anyone retires, reminds me the system from the 30's, when drivers received different amount of points depending on whether they covered over 75, 50 or 25% of the race.

[billiaml]

I like the concept. Some series have "Rookie of the Year," with three new teams, it's like a "Rookie Team of the Year." :D

[Sonic]

Awarding points based on how late anyone retires, reminds me the system from the 30's, when drivers received different amount of points depending on whether they covered over 75, 50 or 25% of the race.

Didn't the winner get 1 point then more points depending on distance managed. I think you were even awarded points for not showing up (there's hope for USF1 yet ;) ). So the champ was the driver with the fewest points.

[maximilian]

What would you guys think of this points system:

- only cars who are classified in the race can score.
- if all 6 are classified, the points are 6-4-3-2-1-0
- if 5 classified, 5-3-2-1-0
- if 4 classified, 4-2-1-0
- if 3 classified, 3-1-0
- if 2 classified, 2-0 (same 2 points for the only finisher)

- 1 point for best qualifying position ("pole")
- 1 point for fastest race lap

Better? Worse? Probably the outcome would be the same anyways? :D

[maximilian]

DiGrassi scores a surprise win for Virgin, and with Lotus' so far worst round, the championship race has tightened up a bit again!




Driver 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT

Kovalainen 9 9 2 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 20
DiGrassi 2 3 9 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 14
Chandhok 1 6 6 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 13
Trulli 6 1 3 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 10
Senna 4 2 4 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 10
Glock 3 4 1 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 8


Team 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT

Lotus 15 10 5 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 30
Hispania 5 8 10 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 23
Virgin 5 7 10 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 22

[Mark]

The best way is just to use the 2010 points system tbh

[maximilian]

Again, please feel free to use any alternate points system to keep track on your own, and post it here, I'd love to see the outcomes in each system! :)

[eloyf1]

New points system:



Driver 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT

Kovalainen 25 25 10 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 60
DiGrassi 10 12 25 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 47
Chandhok 8 18 18 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 44
Senna 15 10 15 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 40
Trulli 18 8 12 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 38
Glock 12 15 8 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 35

Team 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT

Lotus 43 33 22 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 98
Hispania 23 28 33 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 84
Virgin 22 27 33 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 82

[DazzlaF1]

I've gone for a simple 5-3-2-1 system




Driver 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT

Kovalainen 5 5 0 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 10
DiGrassi 0 1 5 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 6
Chandhok 0 3 3 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 6
Trulli 3 0 1 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 4
Senna 2 0 2 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 4
Glock 1 2 0 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 3


Team 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT

Lotus 8 5 1 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 14
Hispania 2 3 5 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 10
Virgin 1 3 5 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 9

[Mark]

The best way is just to use the 2010 points system tbh

[steveaki13]

I always think in the brief shots we see of the 3 new teams they look like they are pretty even and having good races. Especially the Virgin & Lotus.

I have to also add how impressive the Hispania teams realiability has been thus far 3 finishes out of 6, with no Pre Season testing.

[jens]

Lol@at the points system debate. 9-6-4-3-2-1 is fine. We don't need big numbers to determine the order of just merely 6 drivers/3 teams. :p :

Major setback for Lotus, having the most unreliable car among the new teams last weekend. Waiting for their own hydraulics system from Spain onwards, which will hopefully be more reliable...

[V12]

I think whichever points system is used gives a similar order at the minute! Either way it looks like Virgin are the "Red Bull" of the new teams, with probably the quickest car but poor reliability so far, with both scoring their first "win" ;) at the weekend. Lotus will probably remain out front come the end of the season though, and I agree Hispania have been very respectable in their last 2 outings with 3 out of 4 finishes.

[DazzlaF1]

I think whichever points system is used gives a similar order at the minute! Either way it looks like Virgin are the "Red Bull" of the new teams, with probably the quickest car but poor reliability so far, with both scoring their first "win" ;) at the weekend. Lotus will probably remain out front come the end of the season though, and I agree Hispania have been very respectable in their last 2 outings with 3 out of 4 finishes.

I think Hispania have come into the start of the season with the same mindset as Lotus, that was for Dallara to build them a car that would enable them to finish races which they are doing, not only that, their lap times are getting more respectable by the race as well.

Virgin like youn say have the best car pacewise but overall, despite being in existence for 6-7 months, its Lotus who I think have the better overall package.

[V12]

I agree Lotus have the best overall package, and also while Glock is very solid and di Grassi has the potential to be a decent F1 driver in the future given the breaks, Lotus very easily have the best driver line-up of the new teams, thumbs up to them for that :up:

[aryan]

I think the 9-6-4-3-2-1 works really well for this championship. Keep up the good work guys.

[EuroTroll]

I think the 9-6-4-3-2-1 works really well for this championship. Keep up the good work guys.

Yup. Six cars, six points positions. Beau'iful. :)

[DazzlaF1]

Just continuing it




Driver 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT

Kovalainen 9 9 2 9 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 29
Chandhok 1 6 6 4 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 17
DiGrassi 2 3 9 2 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 16
Senna 4 2 4 6 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 16
Trulli 6 1 3 3 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 13
Glock 3 4 1 1 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 9


Team 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT

Lotus 15 10 5 12 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 42
Hispania 5 8 10 10 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 33
Virgin 5 7 10 3 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 25

[steveaki13]

Kovalainen having a good season, much better than Trulli.

[markabilly]

Kovalainen having a good season, much better than Trulli.
He is beating Glock.....

[maximilian]

Thanks for doing the math! I was still hung over and sleeping after staying up most of the night watching the race! :o :)

What a disaster for Virgin, huh? :(

[jens]

Kovalainen having a good season, much better than Trulli.

Trulli has suffered from hydraulic problems in every single race so far - hard to get any results in such way.

[harsha]

Chandok ?????? in second place ????

[maximilian]

Apparently Virgin is about to make the crucial mistake of giving the new updated car with larger fuel tanks to Timo Glock, who sits LAST in the standings, instead of supporting the much better championship hopes of their #1 driver, Lucas di Grassi! :rolleyes: :D

[jens]

Apparently Virgin is about to make the crucial mistake of giving the new updated car with larger fuel tanks to Timo Glock, who sits LAST in the standings, instead of supporting the much better championship hopes of their #1 driver, Lucas di Grassi! :rolleyes: :D

Well, this can end only in one way! Once di Grassi leaves Virgin, he will say that they were amateurish. :D

[DazzlaF1]

They may be the same distance off the pace compared to the first 4 rounds but both the lotus drivers were raving today about their new upgrades and they could be challenging the Toro Rosso's and Saubers for places in Q2

Lotus challenging for main championship points before the end of the season, well it seems possible

[DazzlaF1]

After Spain




Driver 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT

Kovalainen 9 9 2 9 1 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 30
Trulli 6 1 3 3 9 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 22
DiGrassi 2 3 9 2 4 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 20
Chandhok 1 6 6 4 3 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 20
Senna 4 2 4 6 2 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 18
Glock 3 4 1 1 6 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 15


Team 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT

Lotus 15 10 5 12 10 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 52
Hispania 5 8 10 10 5 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 38
Virgin 5 7 10 3 10 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 35

[maximilian]

Thanks for doing the standings! I love not having to work on it myself! :D

Looks like the field is bunching together a bit again, but Lotus are still in command!

[jens]

Wow, both former Toyota team-mates finally had a problemfree race!

[DazzlaF1]

After Monaco




Driver 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT

Kovalainen 9 9 2 9 1 4 - - - - - - - - - - - - - 34
Chandhok 1 6 6 4 3 9 - - - - - - - - - - - - - 29
Trulli 6 1 3 3 9 6 - - - - - - - - - - - - - 28
DiGrassi 2 3 9 2 4 2 - - - - - - - - - - - - - 22
Senna 4 2 4 6 2 3 - - - - - - - - - - - - - 21
Glock 3 4 1 1 6 1 - - - - - - - - - - - - - 16


Team 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT

Lotus 15 10 5 12 10 10 - - - - - - - - - - - - - 62
Hispania 5 8 10 10 5 12 - - - - - - - - - - - - - 50
Virgin 5 7 10 3 10 3 - - - - - - - - - - - - - 38

[steveaki13]

A bit of a difficult one today as the first race of the season that none of the new cars actually finished.

[jens]

This championship is turning into some kind of a comedy with the last man standing being the winner. But you can see, why Trulli tried that move - nothing to lose: 6 points secured and let's go for a 9. :p :

[steveaki13]

As their pace is struggling, wouldn't mind betting that after the last race of the season, the winner of this thread holds up a throphy syaing " Motorsport Forums 2010 New Teams World Champion". :D

Probably the only thing one of them could win. :dozey:

[DazzlaF1]

After Turkey




Driver 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT

Kovalainen 9 9 2 9 1 4 2 - - - - - - - - - - - - 36
Chandhok 1 6 6 4 3 9 4 - - - - - - - - - - - - 33
Trulli 6 1 3 3 9 6 1 - - - - - - - - - - - - 29
DiGrassi 2 3 9 2 4 2 6 - - - - - - - - - - - - 28
Glock 3 4 1 1 6 1 9 - - - - - - - - - - - - 25
Senna 4 2 4 6 2 3 3 - - - - - - - - - - - - 24

Team 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT

Lotus 15 10 5 12 10 10 3 - - - - - - - - - - - - 65
Hispania 5 8 10 10 5 12 7 - - - - - - - - - - - - 57
Virgin 5 7 10 3 10 3 15 - - - - - - - - - - - - 53

[jens]

What a pity for Lotus after holding a secure 1-2 in the race.

[steveaki13]

What a pity for Lotus after holding a secure 1-2 in the race.

Yer

Lotus would really be way clear if they could just get a car to the finish.

They are the quickest of the newbie's but their mighty pace has come at the expense of realiabilty, always the way. :p

But seriously the Lotus team are actually doing a good job in terms of speed, they just need to stop these gremlins.

I think Kovalainen should get a bonus point for actually coming back to have a look at a Williams along the pitstraight. Probably the first time one of the newbie's have even thought about a pass on top runner.

[Wild Dog]

Nice idea, and they are pretty close so far...

[DazzlaF1]

After Canada, Kovalainen back on form




Driver 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT

Kovalainen 9 9 2 9 1 4 2 9 - - - - - - - - - - - 45
Chandhok 1 6 6 4 3 9 4 6 - - - - - - - - - - - 39
DiGrassi 2 3 9 2 4 2 6 4 - - - - - - - - - - - 32
Trulli 6 1 3 3 9 6 1 2 - - - - - - - - - - - 31
Glock 3 4 1 1 6 1 9 3 - - - - - - - - - - - 28
Senna 4 2 4 6 2 3 3 1 - - - - - - - - - - - 25

Team 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT

Lotus 15 10 5 12 10 10 3 12 - - - - - - - - - - - 77
Hispania 5 8 10 10 5 12 7 7 - - - - - - - - - - - 64
Virgin 5 7 10 3 10 3 15 6 - - - - - - - - - - - 59

[christophulus]

Kovalainen is looking like the real deal once more, he's been outclassing Trulli all year.

[jens]

Interesting that in all three new teams one driver has had notably better reliability and they are all in Top3 in overall standings as well.

[DazzlaF1]

Interesting that in all three new teams one driver has had notably better reliability and they are all in Top3 in overall standings as well.

Aye, Chandhok especially, he's been classified as a finisher 6 times out of 8 races despite numerous problems and only turning a wheel for the first time in bahrain qualifying.

Even this weekend he had to change a gearbox yet he still managed to finish.

[DazzlaF1]

Well now that the official result is now in, this can be updated.

Chandhok has closed the gap to Kovalainen a single point and di Grassi is only just 5 points behind as well, 3 horse race it seems now

Virgin also move ahead of Hispania in the teams championship thanks to 3 wins as opposed to Hispania's 1




Driver 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT

Kovalainen 9 9 2 9 1 4 2 9 1 - - - - - - - - - - 46
Chandhok 1 6 6 4 3 9 4 6 6 - - - - - - - - - - 45
DiGrassi 2 3 9 2 4 2 6 4 9 - - - - - - - - - - 41
Trulli 6 1 3 3 9 6 1 2 2 - - - - - - - - - - 33
Glock 3 4 1 1 6 1 9 3 4 - - - - - - - - - - 32
Senna 4 2 4 6 2 3 3 1 3 - - - - - - - - - - 28

Team 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT

Lotus 15 10 5 12 10 10 3 11 3 - - - - - - - - - - 79
Virgin 5 7 10 3 10 3 15 7 13 - - - - - - - - - - 73
Hispania 5 8 10 10 5 12 7 7 9 - - - - - - - - - - 73

[jens]

Lotus has had too much unluck recently with Virgin and HRT getting double finishes. How odd. Hopefully the luck of Lotus will turn around next time around together with the Silverstone upgrades.

[DazzlaF1]

After Britain, Lotus back on form and Trulli takes his first win since Spain




Driver 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT

Kovalainen 9 9 2 9 1 4 2 9 1 6 - - - - - - - - - 52
Chandhok 1 6 6 4 3 9 4 6 6 3 - - - - - - - - - 48
DiGrassi 2 3 9 2 4 2 6 4 9 1 - - - - - - - - - 42
Trulli 6 1 3 3 9 6 1 2 2 9 - - - - - - - - - 42
Glock 3 4 1 1 6 1 9 3 4 4 - - - - - - - - - 36
Senna 4 2 4 6 2 3 3 1 3 - - - - - - - - - - 28
Yamamoto - - - - - - - - - 2 - - - - - - - - - 2

Team 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT

Lotus 15 10 5 12 10 10 3 11 3 15 - - - - - - - - - 94
Virgin 5 7 10 3 10 3 15 7 13 5 - - - - - - - - - 78
Hispania 5 8 10 10 5 12 7 7 9 5 - - - - - - - - - 78

[jens]

The reliability of Lotus was the most positive thing out of the weekend after troubles earlier. Trulli also seems to feel more comfortable in the car now. Still much more pace needs to be found from the package.

[DazzlaF1]

The reliability of Lotus was the most positive thing out of the weekend after troubles earlier. Trulli also seems to feel more comfortable in the car now. Still much more pace needs to be found from the package.

They should be a better on the slower/twisty tracks coming up like Hungary, Gascoyne said during the forum that this was probably not the best track for Lotus to show the potential of their new package. And I think also that the engine upgrade Williams got will filter down to the 3 newbies further helping them.

Great for Trulli though who had the preverbial shocker of a weekend beforehand, ended up driving a damn good race.

[pino]

Finally a lucky race for Trulli :crazy:

[christophulus]

The new teams seem to be fairly reliable, the only failures seem to arise from the hydraulics - Di Grassi had another one today. Are they all from the same manufacturer or what?

[jens]

The new teams seem to be fairly reliable, the only failures seem to arise from the hydraulics - Di Grassi had another one today. Are they all from the same manufacturer or what?

Arguably Lotus brought their own hydraulics system among its Silverstone upgrade package. Maybe that's why they managed to have a troublefree race finally. :p :

[DazzlaF1]

After Germany

2nd newbie victory of the year for Glock which helps Virgin up into a clear 2nd in the constructors



Driver 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT

Kovalainen 9 9 2 9 1 4 2 9 1 6 4 - - - - - - - - 56
Chandhok 1 6 6 4 3 9 4 6 6 3 - - - - - - - - - 48
Glock 3 4 1 1 6 1 9 3 4 4 9 - - - - - - - - 45
DiGrassi 2 3 9 2 4 2 6 4 9 1 3 - - - - - - - - 45
Trulli 6 1 3 3 9 6 1 2 2 9 1 - - - - - - - - 43
Senna 4 2 4 6 2 3 3 1 3 - 6 - - - - - - - - 34
Yamamoto - - - - - - - - - 2 2 - - - - - - - - 4

Team 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT

Lotus 15 10 5 12 10 10 3 11 3 15 5 - - - - - - - - 99
Virgin 5 7 10 3 10 3 15 7 13 5 12 - - - - - - - - 90
Hispania 5 8 10 10 5 12 7 7 9 5 8 - - - - - - - - 86

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[VkmSpouge]

I am enjoying this mini-championship, Lotus certainly have the better of it but Virgin beginning to reel them back in.

I think Virgin could have beaten Lotus today, Glock had been closing in on Kovalainen quite quickly before Kovalainen had his coming together with de la Rosa. It was good strategy by Virgin to have Glock on those new tyres right at the end of the race. I thought Senna did a good job too he was able to stay in touch with the Virgins and Lotus for a long stretch of the race.
I am hoping that Virgin will start switching their focus to next year now that they have caught up with Lotus. Hispania should do the same simply because this car is a dead end.

[ioan]

Fun to see that Chandhok is 2nd even though he was not racing today.

[AndyL]

It's surprising how close this championship still is, given that the relative speeds of the cars have been pretty consistent for most of the season.

[DazzlaF1]

It's surprising how close this championship still is, given that the relative speeds of the cars have been pretty consistent for most of the season.

It all comes down to the magical R word, RELIABILITY, something that Virgin have improved on immensely in recent months. And seeing that they had the edge on pace in pre-season testing, they could very well overtake Lotus on pace (who've stopped development) before the season is out.

[DazzlaF1]

After Hungary (Its late I know)

Another 1-2 for Lotus and a 5th win of the year for Kovalainen giving him a massive 16 point lead, but only 2 points separate the next 4




Driver 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT

Kovalainen 9 9 2 9 1 4 2 9 1 6 4 9 - - - - - - - 65
Glock 3 4 1 1 6 1 9 3 4 4 9 4 - - - - - - - 49
Trulli 6 1 3 3 9 6 1 2 2 9 1 6 - - - - - - - 49
Chandhok 1 6 6 4 3 9 4 6 6 3 - - - - - - - - - 48
DiGrassi 2 3 9 2 4 2 6 4 9 1 3 2 - - - - - - - 47
Senna 4 2 4 6 2 3 3 1 3 - 6 3 - - - - - - - 37
Yamamoto - - - - - - - - - 2 2 1 - - - - - - - 5

Team 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT

Lotus 15 10 5 12 10 10 3 11 3 15 5 15 - - - - - - - 114
Virgin 5 7 10 3 10 3 15 7 13 5 12 6 - - - - - - - 96
Hispania 5 8 10 10 5 12 7 7 9 5 8 4 - - - - - - - 90

[DazzlaF1]

After Belgium

Kovalainen now has made his charge and broken clear of the chasing pack, he now has a 21 point lead over di Grassi who holds 2nd ahead of Glock on the virtue of more 2nd places. Its also incredible to see that despite missing 3 races, Karun Chandhok is still only 5 points behind 2nd place and a comfortable 10 clear of his teammate

In the constructors, its now a 2 horse race, Hispania are pretty much out of the running while Virgin will be pinning their hopes on the final car upgrades coming for Singapore to close a 20 point deficit




Driver 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT

Kovalainen 9 9 2 9 1 4 2 9 1 6 4 9 9 - - - - - - 74
DiGrassi 2 3 9 2 4 2 6 4 9 1 3 2 6 - - - - - - 53
Glock 3 4 1 1 6 1 9 3 4 4 9 4 4 - - - - - - 53
Trulli 6 1 3 3 9 6 1 2 2 9 1 6 3 - - - - - - 52
Chandhok 1 6 6 4 3 9 4 6 6 3 - - - - - - - - - 48
Senna 4 2 4 6 2 3 3 1 3 - 6 3 1 - - - - - - 38
Yamamoto - - - - - - - - - 2 2 1 2 - - - - - - 7

Team 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT

Lotus 15 10 5 12 10 10 3 11 3 15 5 15 12 - - - - - - 126
Virgin 5 7 10 3 10 3 15 7 13 5 12 6 10 - - - - - - 106
Hispania 5 8 10 10 5 12 7 7 9 5 8 4 3 - - - - - - 93

[maximilian]

Thanks for keeping updating the standings! I think this shows 3 things:

1.) Hispania got rid of the wrong driver
2.) Just exactly HOW BAD Yamamoto really is! :p
3.) Lotus are by no means guaranteed finishing 10th in the WCC and getting the big cash bonus. Virgin just needs a 13th place somewhere... Maybe it would be better if Virgin come 10th and get the extra cash infusion, because Lotus seems well-funded enough anyways.

[jens]

Even if it isn't properly reflected in results, I think the good news is that the Silverstone upgrade clearly suits Trulli well. The effort in qualifying for the German Grand Prix reminded me already his best days. The Spa weekend wasn't perfect in various ways, but considering Trulli hasn't been particularly good in mixed conditions in his career, he wasn't going too badly by his standards - even managed to catch the eye of TV-cameras on a few occasions.

Anyway, waiting for 2011 already. It would be a major disappointment if Lotus isn't gonna be any better then than now. :p :

[DazzlaF1]

After Italy

Great win for Timo Glock has now put him into a clear 2nd place ahead of his teammate but Kovalainen's 2nd spot means he has limited the damage and his lead is cut by just 3 points from 21 to 18. Virgin have also cut Lotus's lead in the constructors to 16 points. Those 2 gaps may seem big but with Virgin bringing their final major upgrade to Singapore in 2 weeks, there is a chance they could make serious inroads in both championships.

Also Yamamoto gets his first top 3 of the year but only inherited after Trulli and di Grassi ran into problems late on




Driver 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT

Kovalainen 9 9 2 9 1 4 2 9 1 6 4 9 9 6 - - - - - 80
Glock 3 4 1 1 6 1 9 3 4 4 9 4 4 9 - - - - - 62
DiGrassi 2 3 9 2 4 2 6 4 9 1 3 2 6 3 - - - - - 56
Trulli 6 1 3 3 9 6 1 2 2 9 1 6 3 2 - - - - - 54
Chandhok 1 6 6 4 3 9 4 6 6 3 - - - - - - - - - 48
Senna 4 2 4 6 2 3 3 1 3 - 6 3 1 1 - - - - - 39
Yamamoto - - - - - - - - - 2 2 1 2 4 - - - - - 11

Team 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT

Lotus 15 10 5 12 10 10 3 11 3 15 5 15 12 8 - - - - - 134
Virgin 5 7 10 3 10 3 15 7 13 5 12 6 10 12 - - - - - 118
Hispania 5 8 10 10 5 12 7 7 9 5 8 4 3 5 - - - - - 98

[jens]

And Trulli retired from a comfortable race lead. :p : Nah, his season reminds already his Jordan days with endless car failures, with the difference that this time there is less at stake and retirements don't make a big difference.

[DazzlaF1]

After Singapore

Kovalainen's spectacular and late engine blow handed di Grassi his 3rd newbie win but Kova's DNF meant he was still 2nd of the newbies and therefore increased his lead over Timo Glock to 20 points with 4 races to go, With that sort of advantage, its unlikely that Kovalainen will be caught now.

The main battle now though is in the constructors race, Trulli's early DNF has proved costly for Lotus as Virgin are now only 10 points behind, and with circuits coming up that should suit their new upgrades, Virgin could well give Lotus a run for their money especially as they have bagged 2 wins and 25 points from the last 2 races.




Driver 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT

Kovalainen 9 9 2 9 1 4 2 9 1 6 4 9 9 6 6 - - - - 86
Glock 3 4 1 1 6 1 9 3 4 4 9 4 4 9 4 - - - - 66
DiGrassi 2 3 9 2 4 2 6 4 9 1 3 2 6 3 9 - - - - 65
Trulli 6 1 3 3 9 6 1 2 2 9 1 6 3 2 1 - - - - 55
Chandhok 1 6 6 4 3 9 4 6 6 3 - - - - - - - - - 48
Senna 4 2 4 6 2 3 3 1 3 - 6 3 1 1 2 - - - - 41
Yamamoto - - - - - - - - - 2 2 1 2 4 - - - - - 11
Klien - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 3 - - - - 3

Team 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT

Lotus 15 10 5 12 10 10 3 11 3 15 5 15 12 8 7 - - - - 141
Virgin 5 7 10 3 10 3 15 7 13 5 12 6 10 12 13 - - - - 131
Hispania 5 8 10 10 5 12 7 7 9 5 8 4 3 5 5 - - - - 103

[steveaki13]

Looks like Heikki has almost sown up the title.

Good battle in the constructors.

[Eunos]

Interesting little Championship you have going here..

Looking at things, Heikki could potentially Wrap up the Title in Korea (Assuming ofcourse it Goes)

Seems Digrassi and Glock are the only 2 who could Realistically stop him now..

Unless Trulli wins all 4 Remaining Grand Prixs and Heikki comes last :p

The interesting Battle is in the Constructor..

Im just as interested in seeing who wins this as iam the actual Championship itself :p

[DazzlaF1]

Im just as interested in seeing who wins this as iam the actual Championship itself :p

??????

[steveaki13]

??????

I agree :s :laugh:

[DazzlaF1]

After Japan

A 1-2 for Lotus, just when they needed it most, It all means that in the drivers championship, all Kovalainen needs to do in South Korea is finish ahead of the Hispania's and he will be confirmed as the 2010 newbie champion. And in the teams championship, Lotus have opened their lead over Virgin back up to 20 points so both championships look secure now. The only question now for Lotus is can they get Trulli ahead of both Glock and di Grassi and get the clean sweep? (both titles including 1-2 in the drivers)




Driver 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT

Kovalainen 9 9 2 9 1 4 2 9 1 6 4 9 9 6 6 9 - - - 95
Glock 3 4 1 1 6 1 9 3 4 4 9 4 4 9 4 4 - - - 70
DiGrassi 2 3 9 2 4 2 6 4 9 1 3 2 6 3 9 1 - - - 66
Trulli 6 1 3 3 9 6 1 2 2 9 1 6 3 2 1 6 - - - 61
Chandhok 1 6 6 4 3 9 4 6 6 3 - - - - - - - - - 48
Senna 4 2 4 6 2 3 3 1 3 - 6 3 1 1 2 3 - - - 44
Yamamoto - - - - - - - - - 2 2 1 2 4 - 2 - - - 13
Klien - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 3 - - - - 3

Team 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT

Lotus 15 10 5 12 10 10 3 11 3 15 5 15 12 8 7 15 - - - 156
Virgin 5 7 10 3 10 3 15 7 13 5 12 6 10 12 13 5 - - - 136
Hispania 5 8 10 10 5 12 7 7 9 5 8 4 3 5 5 5 - - - 108

[ioan]

After Japan

A 1-2 for Lotus, just when they needed it most, It all means that in the drivers championship, all Kovalainen needs to do in South Korea is finish ahead of the Hispania's and he will be confirmed as the 2010 newbie champion. And in the teams championship, Lotus have opened their lead over Virgin back up to 20 points so both championships look secure now. The only question now for Lotus is can they get Trulli ahead of both Glock and di Grassi and get the clean sweep? (both titles including 1-2 in the drivers)




Driver 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT

Kovalainen 9 9 2 9 1 4 2 9 1 6 4 9 9 6 6 9 - - - 95
Glock 3 4 1 1 6 1 9 3 4 4 9 4 4 9 4 4 - - - 70
DiGrassi 2 3 9 2 4 2 6 4 9 1 3 2 6 3 9 1 - - - 66
Trulli 6 1 3 3 9 6 1 2 2 9 1 6 3 2 1 6 - - - 61
Chandhok 1 6 6 4 3 9 4 6 6 3 - - - - - - - - - 48
Senna 4 2 4 6 2 3 3 1 3 - 6 3 1 1 2 3 - - - 44
Yamamoto - - - - - - - - - 2 2 1 2 4 - 2 - - - 13
Klien - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 3 - - - - 3

Team 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT

Lotus 15 10 5 12 10 10 3 11 3 15 5 15 12 8 7 15 - - - 156
Virgin 5 7 10 3 10 3 15 7 13 5 12 6 10 12 13 5 - - - 136
Hispania 5 8 10 10 5 12 7 7 9 5 8 4 3 5 5 5 - - - 108



Interesting, Chandhok is still ahead of Senna after not racing for 5 races.

[steveaki13]

After Japan

The only question now for Lotus is can they get Trulli ahead of both Glock and di Grassi and get the clean sweep? (both titles including 1-2 in the drivers)



[/code]

I wonder whether the team will employ team orders for Kovalainen to allow Trulli past, and then hold up the field. :D

[AndyL]

Chandhok still the top HRT driver despite having sat out the last 6 grands prix.

In the real constructor's championship, today's race could well have been the decider for the new teams with so many retirements.

[steveaki13]

I was thinking during the race Kamui would probably crash into another car on his come back drive, which would have promoted Kovalainen into the points.

[ioan]

I was thinking during the race Kamui would probably crash into another car on his come back drive, which would have promoted Kovalainen into the points.

You mean Sakon?!

[POS_Maggott]

You mean Sakon?!

No, he means Kamui, who surprisingly didn't clobber anyone, which would have given Heikki points...

[ioan]

No, he means Kamui, who surprisingly didn't clobber anyone, which would have given Heikki points...

I see. My bad, probably because I didn't expect Kobayashi to do anything stupid.

[steveaki13]

No I didn't really expect Kamui to crash, but as he was the only driver chucking his car into overtakes, it went through my mind that maybe he would at some point be at risk of a collision which would as said above given Lotus its first point.

As it was Kamui was risk taking, brilliant and had all four wheels pointing in the same direction. He did a great job. :)

Bet Lotus were watching the screen praying for a light contact and two cars ahead into the gravel. ;)

[AndyL]

Bet Lotus were watching the screen praying for a light contact and two cars ahead into the gravel. ;)

That would have pissed Tony Fernandes off, I think it was the first race of the season he wasn't at... the team would have been telling him to stay away for the rest of the season :)

[jens]

In the real constructor's championship, today's race could well have been the decider for the new teams with so many retirements.

Quite likely so. Only a wet Brazilian GP may still enable a new team to have a shot at a higher placing than P12.

[DazzlaF1]

Quite likely so. Only a wet Brazilian GP may still enable a new team to have a shot at a higher placing than P12.

A race like Spa 98 or Monaco 96 and these newbies can still dream of points (if they survive that far that is) I remember watching Monaco 96 and thinking what a wonderful opportunity it would have been for Forti to score as only 3 cars finished, unfortunately for them Andrea Montermini was too badly injured to race while Luca Badoer crashed out while running 10th when (considering the number of laps down he was) he would have been on course to finish 6th.

[maximilian]

Yeah, you never know. If Korea really turns into a slip-and-slide fest on the new tarmac, it could be high-attrition (throw in a couple late-season engine failures...) - not to mention if it actually rains, which would further exacerbate the situation... ;)

[DazzlaF1]

After South Korea

Kovalainen now cannot be caught thus meaning he has secured the newbies title with 2 races to spare, clincing it in style with his 8th newbie win of the year. Lotus's hopes of a 1-2 finish though in the table took a huge knock though with Trulli's early retirement. Glock will be disappointed as he was comfortably in the lead and on course for victory had he not been wiped out by Buemi while running an impressive 12th

In the constructors, Lotus have also secured the title there, needing onyl 5 point and with teams guaranteed to score a minnimum of 3 at each race, Virgin now cannot catch them even if they pick up a maximum 30 from the next 2 races





Driver 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT

Kovalainen 9 9 2 9 1 4 2 9 1 6 4 9 9 6 6 9 9 - - 104 - CHAMPION
Glock 3 4 1 1 6 1 9 3 4 4 9 4 4 9 4 4 3 - - 73
DiGrassi 2 3 9 2 4 2 6 4 9 1 3 2 6 3 9 1 2 - - 68
Trulli 6 1 3 3 9 6 1 2 2 9 1 6 3 2 1 6 1 - - 62
Senna 4 2 4 6 2 3 3 1 3 - 6 3 1 1 2 3 6 - - 50
Chandhok 1 6 6 4 3 9 4 6 6 3 - - - - - - - - - 48
Yamamoto - - - - - - - - - 2 2 1 2 4 - 2 4 - - 17
Klien - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 3 - - - - 3

Team 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT

Lotus 15 10 5 12 10 10 3 11 3 15 5 15 12 8 7 15 10 - - 166 - CHAMPION
Virgin 5 7 10 3 10 3 15 7 13 5 12 6 10 12 13 5 5 - - 141
Hispania 5 8 10 10 5 12 7 7 9 5 8 4 3 5 5 5 10 - - 118

[steveaki13]

Congrats Kovalainen and Lotus.

[jens]

It was a tough race for the new team drivers due to fast cars being stuck behind them, so it looked inevitable that Glock and Kovalainen were going to get bulldozered out of the way sooner or later.

[maximilian]

Congratulations indeed to one of my favorite drivers, Heikki Kovalainen, the new official New Teams World Driving Champion! And to very popular "new"comers Lotus as well. I just hope they'll be around in a similar capacity notwithstanding the naming dispute (and not become Team AirAsia or something like that next year).

I also think that myself as creator of the New Teams World Championship, and DazzlaF1 as industrious stats keeper should be invited by Tony Fernandes to join Lotus as VIP special guests at the season finale Grand Prix in Abu Dhabi, to properly celebrate their World Title! :D

Thank you, DazzlaF1, for doing all the heavy lifting! :)

[DazzlaF1]

After Brazil

Kovalainen extends his championship winning margin to a huge 36 points with his 3rd win in a row and his 9th overall. Trulli can now longer finish 2nd thanks to Glock's 3rd place, only teammate di Grassi can now catch him. In the constructors, Virgin now cannot be caught by Hispania while Lotus extend their championship winning margin to 35 points




Driver 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT

Kovalainen 9 9 2 9 1 4 2 9 1 6 4 9 9 6 6 9 9 9 - 113 - CHAMPION
Glock 3 4 1 1 6 1 9 3 4 4 9 4 4 9 4 4 3 4 - 77
DiGrassi 2 3 9 2 4 2 6 4 9 1 3 2 6 3 9 1 2 1 - 69
Trulli 6 1 3 3 9 6 1 2 2 9 1 6 3 2 1 6 1 6 - 68
Senna 4 2 4 6 2 3 3 1 3 - 6 3 1 1 2 3 6 3 - 53
Chandhok 1 6 6 4 3 9 4 6 6 3 - - - - - - - - - 48
Yamamoto - - - - - - - - - 2 2 1 2 4 - 2 4 - - 17
Klien - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 3 - - 2 - 5

Team 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT

Lotus 15 10 5 12 10 10 3 11 3 15 5 15 12 8 7 15 10 15 - 181 - CHAMPION
Virgin 5 7 10 3 10 3 15 7 13 5 12 6 10 12 13 5 5 5 - 146
Hispania 5 8 10 10 5 12 7 7 9 5 8 4 3 5 5 5 10 5 - 123

[wattoroos]

i think it just shows that kovalainen has potential, constantly being the best.
Although i do think chandhok did well for the car he had

[DazzlaF1]

Tis a formality but anyway, here's the final table




Driver 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT

Kovalainen 9 9 2 9 1 4 2 9 1 6 4 9 9 6 6 9 9 9 9 122 - CHAMPION
Glock 3 4 1 1 6 1 9 3 4 4 9 4 4 9 4 4 3 4 1 78
DiGrassi 2 3 9 2 4 2 6 4 9 1 3 2 6 3 9 1 2 1 6 75
Trulli 6 1 3 3 9 6 1 2 2 9 1 6 3 2 1 6 1 6 2 70
Senna 4 2 4 6 2 3 3 1 3 - 6 3 1 1 2 3 6 3 4 57
Chandhok 1 6 6 4 3 9 4 6 6 3 - - - - - - - - - 48
Yamamoto - - - - - - - - - 2 2 1 2 4 - 2 4 - - 17
Klien - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 3 - - 2 3 8

Team 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 TOT

Lotus 15 10 5 12 10 10 3 11 3 15 5 15 12 8 7 15 10 15 11 192 - CHAMPION
Virgin 5 7 10 3 10 3 15 7 13 5 12 6 10 12 13 5 5 5 7 153
Hispania 5 8 10 10 5 12 7 7 9 5 8 4 3 5 5 5 10 5 7 130

[steveaki13]

Lets hope they are all around next year and all improve and mix it into the grid.

[AndyL]

Thanks Maximilian and Dazzla for doing this over the year, it's been interesting to follow.

[steveaki13]

Thanks Maximilian and Dazzla for doing this over the year, it's been interesting to follow.

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