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damg75
25th February 2010, 05:18
California TV ratings down: ESPN2's live telecast of the Feb. 20 NASCAR Nationwide Series race at Auto Club Speedway in Fontana, Calif., earned a final national household coverage rating of 1.7, down from the 1.9 rating for last year's race that also aired on ESPN2. The telecast averaged 2,282,563 viewers and was seen in an average of 1,716,372 households. After two races, ESPN2's NASCAR Nationwide Series coverage is averaging a 2.5 rating, an increase of 19 percent over last year's 2.1 average for two races.(ESPN)(2-23-2010)

http://jayski.com/nationwide/nationwide.htm

Not a Danica hater despite the hype machine, but for the ratings to be down from LAST YEAR's California Nationwide race without Danicamania is quite a shocker...looks like the BSPN advertising isn't working, or maybe, it's turning people off...your thoughts?

slorydn1
25th February 2010, 05:21
California TV ratings down: ESPN2's live telecast of the Feb. 20 NASCAR Nationwide Series race at Auto Club Speedway in Fontana, Calif., earned a final national household coverage rating of 1.7, down from the 1.9 rating for last year's race that also aired on ESPN2. The telecast averaged 2,282,563 viewers and was seen in an average of 1,716,372 households. After two races, ESPN2's NASCAR Nationwide Series coverage is averaging a 2.5 rating, an increase of 19 percent over last year's 2.1 average for two races.(ESPN)(2-23-2010)

http://jayski.com/nationwide/nationwide.htm

Not a Danica hater despite the hype machine, but for the ratings to be down from LAST YEAR's California Nationwide race without Danicamania is quite a shocker...looks like the BSPN advertising isn't working, or maybe, it's turning people off...your thoughts?

I think DSPN's airing of the Danicamania show has finally bit them. The test will be Vegas,in my view.

Mark in Oshawa
25th February 2010, 06:17
It says to me that over saturation on someone who finishes 3 laps down is just turning viewers off. I have faith in ESPN tho...they will do it again you watch. They didn't learn a thing in all the years doing the IRL killing THEIR ratings...

Easy Drifter
25th February 2010, 16:29
I think the oversaturation of DP is starting to hurt. Actually I think that the amount of NAPCAR on Speed is also overdoing things and turning people off.
That said the Olympics are also likely affecting ratings to some extent.

71Fan
25th February 2010, 18:44
With the backlash that Funtana has recieved in the last few years concerning the swapping of dates etc, I'm not surprised at all and even think that they would have been even lower without Danica. As I understand it, ratings were also off for the Cup race.

Lee Roy
25th February 2010, 19:31
I think the oversaturation of DP is starting to hurt. Actually I think that the amount of NAPCAR on Speed is also overdoing things and turning people off.
That said the Olympics are also likely affecting ratings to some extent.

It's NASCAR.

harvick#1
26th February 2010, 00:28
With the backlash that Funtana has recieved in the last few years concerning the swapping of dates etc, I'm not surprised at all and even think that they would have been even lower without Danica. As I understand it, ratings were also off for the Cup race.

because Fontana blows,

California does not need 3 race dates for the calendar year

Lee Roy
26th February 2010, 14:08
They didn't learn a thing in all the years doing the IRL killing THEIR ratings...

HAHA ESPN didn't kill the IRL's ratings. The IRL killed their own ratings by running a suck-a$$ series.

SportscarBruce
27th February 2010, 09:20
The Danica bump is over and it lasted for one race in a ladder series, other than than the ratings have been down for every race thus far. They ain't going to make a damn change to the cars or the racing format despite what the fans say. The only answer is even more NASCAR on everything Disney and NewsCorp. Now get to it!!! I'll be watching the Olympics...

Mark in Oshawa
27th February 2010, 12:59
With the backlash that Funtana has recieved in the last few years concerning the swapping of dates etc, I'm not surprised at all and even think that they would have been even lower without Danica. As I understand it, ratings were also off for the Cup race.

The ratings don't change because a date was swapped. The local GATE may be off, but the ratings will change for reasons to do with the entertainment value and what else is on. Let's face the reality, NASCAR AINT the Winter Olympics, or summers for that matter. I would say you toss out these two weeks, especially with USA playing Canada in the gold medal game of hockey. While hockey isn't a big American sport, I suspect the 3 or 4 share it is likely to get would be a lot of people who might have watched NASCAR otherwise.

Ratings wont really have relvence again until the Olympics are over. The numbers NBC is drawing may not be huge, but they are big enough that you cannot discount them. Sports fans are sports fans. Sometimes they watch people fighting for medals, sometimes they watch NASCAR.

Mark in Oshawa
27th February 2010, 13:00
HAHA ESPN didn't kill the IRL's ratings. The IRL killed their own ratings by running a suck-a$$ series.
For a guy who claims to hate the IRL, you must watch a lot of it to know that.

Guess you either don't watch and are not sure and assume they suck, or you watch, and you are a masochist.

The IRL ratings suck because of crappy broadcasts and weak fields. How they got there however isn't a reflection of the drivers or guys like Chip or Roger; but rather the idiot who destroyed the sport in the first place. We wont get into that here....

slorydn1
27th February 2010, 13:22
The IRL ratings suck because of crappy broadcasts and weak fields. How they got there however isn't a reflection of the drivers or guys like Chip or Roger; but rather the idiot who destroyed the sport in the first place. We wont get into that here....


I'll say it. Tony George.

I watched CART racing (what little of it I could find) on TV, and especially the Indy 500, with regularity right up until the schism. Then I was done. I still watched the Indy 500 every year, but more to set the table for the Coke 600 later that evening, and followed with great interest the "double duty" drivers (John Andretti, T-Stew, and Robby Gordon). Then the morons in Indy said, lets move the start time up an hour and cut out the main reason why any NASCAR fans would want to watch. Not only could the drivers no longer compete, but the end of the race itself was butting up against Nascar Raceday on Speed, and hey, they may JUST mention my driver on the show, so I couldn't miss that, now could I?

Last year was the first year since 1994 that I made and attempt to wtach the whole Indy Car season, and it was pretty good, actually.....right up until the point Versus pulled out a .44 magnum and shot itself right in the crotch and Indy Car along with it by getting into their little pissing contest with Direct TV.

No loss really. Between Nascar, Formula 1, Grand Am, and ALMS, I have MORE than enough racing to keep my DVR really busy over the coming months.

Mark in Oshawa
27th February 2010, 14:03
I'll say it. Tony George.

I watched CART racing (what little of it I could find) on TV, and especially the Indy 500, with regularity right up until the schism. Then I was done. I still watched the Indy 500 every year, but more to set the table for the Coke 600 later that evening, and followed with great interest the "double duty" drivers (John Andretti, T-Stew, and Robby Gordon). Then the morons in Indy said, lets move the start time up an hour and cut out the main reason why any NASCAR fans would want to watch. Not only could the drivers no longer compete, but the end of the race itself was butting up against Nascar Raceday on Speed, and hey, they may JUST mention my driver on the show, so I couldn't miss that, now could I?

Last year was the first year since 1994 that I made and attempt to wtach the whole Indy Car season, and it was pretty good, actually.....right up until the point Versus pulled out a .44 magnum and shot itself right in the crotch and Indy Car along with it by getting into their little pissing contest with Direct TV.

No loss really. Between Nascar, Formula 1, Grand Am, and ALMS, I have MORE than enough racing to keep my DVR really busy over the coming months.

So basically in the future on the IRL board, when some idiot trys to tell me it wasn't Tony, I will just refer em to your post.

slorydn1
27th February 2010, 14:33
So basically in the future on the IRL board, when some idiot trys to tell me it wasn't Tony, I will just refer em to your post.


Send 'em on :p :

I'll straigten 'em out :arrows: :beer:

Lee Roy
27th February 2010, 15:06
For a guy who claims to hate the IRL, you must watch a lot of it to know that.

Guess you either don't watch and are not sure and assume they suck, or you watch, and you are a masochist.


Used to watch the IRL and attend the races. Same with CART. So I know the product now is pretty bad. I don't watch any of the races now, not even the Indy 500, and I wouldn't cross the street to see one anymore.

It makes me laugh to hear all the pathetic silly excuses for failure, such as bad broadcasts, when the real problem is a pathetic product.

Lee Roy
27th February 2010, 15:08
No loss really. Between Nascar, Formula 1, Grand Am, and ALMS, I have MORE than enough racing to keep my DVR really busy over the coming months.

Bingo

71Fan
27th February 2010, 20:21
Mark....

Yer right, the ratings don't change because of swapped dates. The ratings change when you deride a track like Funtana because it got a Dega date. My guess is that lot's of folks don't watch Funtana because of it.

harvick#1
27th February 2010, 23:34
No loss really. Between Nascar, Formula 1, Grand Am, and ALMS, I have MORE than enough racing to keep my DVR really busy over the coming months.

when you can get a chance, find the DTM series, BTCC, WTCC, Aussie v8's

you wont be disappointed with any of those series and produced some fantastic racing time and time again

SportscarBruce
1st March 2010, 21:22
I caught a few seconds of NASCAR promo during the Sat morning Fox & Friends and also some of that Junior interview by Chris Wallace, so it's heartening to see NewsCorp and NASCAR following my instructions. However that just ain't enough to bring up the ratings and bring back advertiser commitment. Here's another suggestion: get Sarah Palin into a car, and soon! It's not as farfetched as it might seem at first glance. I don't want to hear a word about Sarah not being qualified, it's not like she was qualified to be governor of Alaska or vice-president. So get her into a car and make sure one way or another she ends up crashing w/Danica Patrick. Contact the people who hotwire those jumbo jets to crash into buildings if you have to and integrate that technology into a car. Once these two hot mommas crash they can take it from there - fighting, pullin' hair, smack-talking down each other on the camera. Think about it! Now there's pros in NY who can do this, so get too it! Also, now this might be a stretch but pushing boundaries & cashing in is what TV and marketing is all about, there's also the possibilities of using adult cable TV as a promotion vehicle. Danica Patrick and Sarah Palin in some sonft-core porn anyone? :)

SportscarBruce
1st March 2010, 21:24
when you can get a chance, find the DTM series, BTCC, WTCC, Aussie v8's

you wont be disappointed with any of those series and produced some fantastic racing time and time again

When do they show this stuff?

Mark in Oshawa
2nd March 2010, 00:41
Mark....

Yer right, the ratings don't change because of swapped dates. The ratings change when you deride a track like Funtana because it got a Dega date. My guess is that lot's of folks don't watch Funtana because of it.

No...people deride Fontana because half of the races sucked and the others were ok, and it was clear from shots of the stands that even before the economy collapased, no one in SoCal seemed to get that excited.

slorydn1
2nd March 2010, 00:50
when you can get a chance, find the DTM series, BTCC, WTCC, Aussie v8's

you wont be disappointed with any of those series and produced some fantastic racing time and time again

Funny you mentioned that...back during the week of the NFL conference championship games there was absolutely nothing on TV on Saturday and I caught Speeds coverage of both BTCC and DTM and the BTCC guys were making the Sprint Cup guys look like total gentleman on the road courses, they had more Beaten and Banging than Bristol! Only problem is, you get a whole 30 minutes to watch 3 or 4 races,so its more like a highlight show.

And, as soon as I am all done here tonight, and watch tonights Nascar Now and Race Hub that I taped to avoid the commercials I will be watching the Aussie V8 race at Abu Dahbi :up:

Mark in Oshawa
2nd March 2010, 00:53
Funny you mentioned that...back during the week of the NFL conference championship games there was absolutely nothing on TV on Saturday and I caught Speeds coverage of both BTCC and DTM and the BTCC guys were making the Sprint Cup guys look like total gentleman on the road courses, they had more Beaten and Banging than Bristol! Only problem is, you get a whole 30 minutes to watch 3 or 4 races,so its more like a highlight show.

And, as soon as I am all done here tonight, and watch tonights Nascar Now and Race Hub that I taped to avoid the commercials I will be watching the Aussie V8 race at Abu Dahbi :up:

Who is carrying the Aussie V8's?

slorydn1
2nd March 2010, 01:01
Who is carrying the Aussie V8's?

It was on Speed this weekend,late Saturday night, Sunday Morning...I recorded it

Mark in Oshawa
2nd March 2010, 04:45
It was on Speed this weekend,late Saturday night, Sunday Morning...I recorded it

Damn....They didn't seem to show anything from that series all winter.....so I gave up looking. I used to have my tv glued to Speedvision when it was in its old days, especially in the winter. Now they are part of the FOX family, it is all lifestyle shows, glorified product placement hours with Tommy Kendall and too much NASCAR (yes, that is possible)