Renault & Sauber Car Launch Thread

[DazzlaF1]

Well tomorrow, were due to see the new Renault in all its yellow and black glory but also Sauber are due to show off their new car too.

I know there are rumours that Sauber had signed a deal with Nestle and that as a result, they would run the colours of Nestle's coffee brand Nespresso. Linked with that, i found this mock up

http://media.photobucket.com/image/Sauber%20C29/hanmer_photos/sauberc29specb.jpg

[Sonic]

After the amazing looking 25 I'm not sure my weak heart can take anymore!

[jens]

It is certainly going to be an interesting day. Although we pretty much know the drivers by now, both teams have a new identity and possibly a new livery for this season. It will also be interesting to see, which sponsors have either been capable of attracting after strong suspicions that both teams might lack cash.

[Powered by Cosworth]

The Sauber mockup looks brilliant, was hoping they'd go the Blend 37 route but beggars can't be choosers.

As for the Renault, supposadly the following images were found hidden on the Renault F1 site.

http://renault-f1.fr/IMG/jpg/r30-01.jpg

http://renault-f1.fr/IMG/jpg/r30.jpg

http://renault-f1.fr/IMG/png/mainnav-ecurie-on.png

[DazzlaF1]

It is certainly going to be an interesting day. Although we pretty much know the drivers by now, both teams have a new identity and possibly a new livery for this season. It will also be interesting to see, which sponsors have either been capable of attracting after strong suspicions that both teams might lack cash.

Sauber especially, it'll be interesting to see from the car if Kobayashi has brought Panasonic backing with him.

[52Paddy]

Oh, another flash from the past! :D Hope that the Renault is reminiscent of the late 70s/early 80s livery. That would be sweeeeet!

[Saint Devote]

If the Renault is "back to the future" it would surely not be permanent? The team would be trying to sign a team sponsor.

So even if it is in Renault colors - by the time Sakhir is run it could well not be.

[Hawkmoon]

If the Renault is "back to the future" it would surely not be permanent? The team would be trying to sign a team sponsor.

So even if it is in Renault colors - by the time Sakhir is run it could well not be.

I agree. I doubt Renault will be willing or able to run without branding for more than a short time. If we do see the yellow and black it might be short lived.

As for the Sauber, there's been a terrible lack of baby-poo-brown cars in F1 and it's good to see somebody doing something about! :D

[Sonic]

I didn't realise you were such an expert in baby turds! :D

[turismo6]

Does anyone know what time the Launchers are?

[F1boat]

If the Renault is "back to the future" it would surely not be permanent? The team would be trying to sign a team sponsor.

So even if it is in Renault colors - by the time Sakhir is run it could well not be.

Still I hope that they will be in traditional colors. Maybe with nice Gazprom ad :)

[Giuseppe F1]

Sauber launch is at 1:30pm GMT


Petrov has now been seen arriving at the Valencia circuit today where Renault will launch their car so seems now a cert that he will be the 2nd Renault peddler alongside Kubica:

http://www.autosport.com/news/grapevine.php/id/81142

[turismo6]

c29

[Giuseppe F1]

First pic of the new Sauber..........WTF?


Why have they kept the BMW livery????? I can understand keeping the team name for the silly legal reasons in terms of prize money etc but hey.......why keep the team identity BMW and why no sponsors visible at this stage?

I really hope this is just an interim livery as team is hopefully still phrashing out sponsor/title sponsor deals and that by Bahrain we will have a proper new team livery/identiuty - hopefully Nespresso brown and white.

Actual car looks pretty damn nice however!

http://cdn.images.autosport.com/editorial/1264945259.jpg

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81144

[turismo6]

Whats on the side pod? is it mat brown paint or carbon fiber... car looks very racy.

[VkmSpouge]

The car and overalls does look worryingly sponsorless and also quite ugly I haven't seen a good looking car this year. Hopefully they'll have a sponsor or two on the side of the car come Bahrain.



Why have they kept the BMW livery????? I can understand keeping the team name for the silly legal reasons in terms of prize money etc

Plenty of other teams have managed to change their names and keep the prize money Jordan-Midland-Spyker-Force India, Brawn-Mercedes so why couldn't Sauber go down the same route? Maybe an agreement with BMW when Sauber bought them out?

[Giuseppe F1]

Just a small 'Certina Swiss Watches' logo on the mirrors - some more pics - the front wing falls quite far backwards from the nose - very similar to the approach taken by USF1:


http://tazio.uol.com.br/imagens/11783/large.jpg

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/2071/dmk1031ja56.jpg

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/7761/dmk1031ja58.jpg

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/9955/altdvb2010013114455932.jpg


and the USF1 nosecone/front wing set-up for comparison:

http://www.usgpe.com/news/in-detail-building-a-nose.html

[Giuseppe F1]

The car and overalls does look worryingly sponsorless and also quite ugly I haven't seen a good looking car this year. Hopefully they'll have a sponsor or two on the side of the car come Bahrain.



Plenty of other teams have managed to change their names and keep the prize money Jordan-Midland-Spyker-Force India, Brawn-Mercedes so why couldn't Sauber go down the same route? Maybe an agreement with BMW when Sauber bought them out?

BIG difference here though VkmSpouge between BMW and all those other examples you mention is that BMW didnt sign up to the Concorde Agreement of course

[UltimateDanGTR]

its annoying to see the bmw livery when they are no longer bmw, asides from (stupidly) name.

wierd nosecone style but i hope the car is quick. as for the livery:disapointing

[DazzlaF1]

Thats got to be an interim livery, but otherwise the car itself actually looks great.

[Pulidor]

Courtesy of f1aldia.com
http://www.f1aldia.com/photos/7200/7223/005.jpg

Looks nice.

What's with all the teams not releasing backside pictures of their cars?

[Pulidor]

BTW, I think we can expect the new Renault to be painted with classic Renault colours, judging from what the team principal is wearing:

http://images.gpupdate.net/large/144208.jpg

[Giuseppe F1]

What's with all the teams not releasing backside pictures of their cars?

I think you (and we all) know why, Pulidor? :)

[Giuseppe F1]

BTW, I think we can expect the new Renault to be painted with classic Renault colours, judging from what the team principal is wearing:

http://images.gpupdate.net/large/144208.jpg

Whats that Red Bull in the background???/?????

[DazzlaF1]

Whats that Red Bull in the background???/?????

Toro Rosso perhaps? they're due to launch their car tomorrow

[Giuseppe F1]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81145



BMW Sauber to retain name for now
By Jonathan Noble and Pablo Elizalde
Sunday, January 31st 2010, 14:32 GMT

BMW Sauber is not planning to change the team's name at least before the start of the season, Peter Sauber said on Sunday.

Although BMW quit Formula 1 at the end of the 2009 season, the Hinwil-based squad has retained the BMW Sauber moniker so far.

Sauber said during the launch of the team's new car at Valencia that there were no plans to change the name yet because of television money and Concorde Agreement-related issues.

"It is not planned before the start of the season," he said. "We entered the 2010 season as BMW Sauber and this is the name."

When asked if Ferrari, who will supply engines to the team this year, was unhappy at the BMW name, he said: "No. It is okay for most."

[52Paddy]

Lovely car, the Sauber. I notice they've also gone for an estate F1 car but still looks top-notch :up:

Gotta say, for me anyway, this is gonna be one beautiful grid in 2010 :D

[DazzlaF1]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81145



BMW Sauber to retain name for now
By Jonathan Noble and Pablo Elizalde
Sunday, January 31st 2010, 14:32 GMT

BMW Sauber is not planning to change the team's name at least before the start of the season, Peter Sauber said on Sunday.

Although BMW quit Formula 1 at the end of the 2009 season, the Hinwil-based squad has retained the BMW Sauber moniker so far.

Sauber said during the launch of the team's new car at Valencia that there were no plans to change the name yet because of television money and Concorde Agreement-related issues.

"It is not planned before the start of the season," he said. "We entered the 2010 season as BMW Sauber and this is the name."

When asked if Ferrari, who will supply engines to the team this year, was unhappy at the BMW name, he said: "No. It is okay for most."

They'll be allowed to change it in the end, eventually

[turismo6]

another photoshop job

[Sonic]

So the theme of the year is who can make the sidepods as low as possible towards the rear? The Sauber sidepods seem to be the highest and furthest forward of the bunch so far - the only reason I know to do that would be for the rads to have been forced out of the way by the fuel cell - is the Ferrari still that thirsty?

[Giuseppe F1]

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/7053/dmk1031ja87.jpg

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/2540/dmk1031ja86.jpg

http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/8020/dmk1031ja85.jpg

http://www.f1today.nl/fotos/m4a9i4rf1.jpg


HIDING THE DDD!:

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/1636/c29c.jpg

[Pulidor]

HIDING THE DDD!:

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/1636/c29c.jpg

Wow. That behaviour is just too much for me.
Why release a picture that is hiding stuff? It's sorta contradictory IMO.
Are they gonna test like that tomorrow as well!? (..sigh..)

On the other hand, good job GiuseppeF1, bringing all this stuff to us! ;)

[DazzlaF1]

From Autosport


Virgin to launch car online

Friday, January 29th 2010, 16:28 GMT

Virgin Racing will unveil its first Formula 1 car in a broadcast on its website next Wednesday.

The VR-01 will be revealed via virginracing.com at 10.00am on 3 February, the team having chosen to hold a 'virtual' event rather than a normal launch.

The car has been designed by Nick Wirth's Wirth Research organisation and, like the other start-up teams, Virgin will use Cosworth engines. Wirth expects the car to run for the first time next week prior to joining the second F1 group test at Jerez.

[Giuseppe F1]

You can download the official press kit for the new car/team in PDF, here:

http://press.bmw-sauber-f1-team.ch/index.php/main/download/id/51

[VkmSpouge]

Looking at the shot of the car from the front it looks a lot better than from the side view.

[Pulidor]

http://www.go-f1.com/new/newimage/actu-6055s.jpg

[V12]

its annoying to see the bmw livery when they are no longer bmw, asides from (stupidly) name.

wierd nosecone style but i hope the car is quick. as for the livery:disapointing

Totally agree, would have been good to make a bit of a break from the BMW era with a new colour scheme, even if they don't have any sponsors signed up yet.

And totally hate the continuing "BMW Sauber" name, really hope they get that changed before the start of the year.

[Saint Devote]

So the theme of the year is who can make the sidepods as low as possible towards the rear? The Sauber sidepods seem to be the highest and furthest forward of the bunch so far - the only reason I know to do that would be for the rads to have been forced out of the way by the fuel cell - is the Ferrari still that thirsty?

Compact and sleek. Takes a minute to get used to the nose but the cockpit area backwards is just beautiful - very art decco.

This car would not be out of place in a futuristic 1930's picture. Just need the elegant "flappers" :D

I like it and hope it does well for Sauber. Will look really good with their nesspresso coffee sponsor paintjob - how about Starbucks? :s mokin:

[DazzlaF1]

http://www.go-f1.com/new/newimage/actu-6055s.jpg

Yep, Petrov confirmed

Now though we want to see the car

[Saint Devote]

So the theme of the year is who can make the sidepods as low as possible towards the rear? The Sauber sidepods seem to be the highest and furthest forward of the bunch so far - the only reason I know to do that would be for the rads to have been forced out of the way by the fuel cell - is the Ferrari still that thirsty?

I would say its just the design - the fuel tank objective being to keep the fuel always as centered and as low in the tank as possible.

So maybe with all the one way valves and trapdoors they designed the Ferrari that way - according to their wind tunnel results.

I think the MOST interesting will be what the Virgin and Red Bull teams come up with - the first being entirely CFD designed and the RB from Newey.

Imagine if they would both arrive at similar designs obviously DIFFERENT from all the others. Definitely send something of a shock down pitlane! :eek:

[turismo6]

I hope we can get something different from the Gascoyne lotus.

[Saint Devote]

Yep, Petrov confirmed

Now though we want to see the car

Did not realize Petrov was so much stockier than Kubica. I think he is going to have to slim down a tad.

Definitely a good combination - both are aggressive in thei driving.

[turismo6]

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/renault_r30.jpg

[DazzlaF1]

Sweeeeeeeeeet!!!

Design wise, it does look a lot more simple than the Sauber

[mac853]

Could somebody tell me why BMW is already pull out from F1, then still calls "BMW Sauber", even the engine and gearbox are Ferrari?

Could anybody explain me, please?

Best regards

[DazzlaF1]

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/renault_r30-2.jpg

[Malbec]

Hmmmmm, a rather worrying lack of sponsors for both teams.

Given that BMW Sauber haven't renamed themselves yet, I suspect that title sponsorship negotiations are still ongoing. Are Nestle prepared to go that extra mile and have their name as part of the team name?

I wonder how much BMW has bequeathed to Sauber to keep it going this season. If Sauber did carry on developing over the winter and are now going to go testing presumably they have received some funds from BMW.

[RS]

Given that BMW Sauber haven't renamed themselves yet, I suspect that title sponsorship negotiations are still ongoing. Are Nestle prepared to go that extra mile and have their name as part of the team name?


I am guessing this has something to do with it. Also, maybe BMW don't want their name associated with specific sponsors so Sauber won't release their final livery before the name change is sorted.

Both cars looks good, in different ways. Seem the airbox fin is the new craze in F1 this year.

Edit: It seems there is some small Japanese sponsor on the rear wing endplates of the Sauber.

[jonny hurlock]

renault car: oh la la la la, best looking car of the year so far, still needs a bit of white for some 1980s look, back to the future yes.

[Sonic]

I hope we can get something different from the Gascoyne lotus.

Nah - we've seen the mock up already. Nothing spectacular, quite stocky looking.

[Sonic]

The renault is automotive magnolia. Yes, the livery is superb, but the car looks too conservative.

[DazzlaF1]

The renault is automotive magnolia. Yes, the livery is superb, but the car looks too conservative.

I agree, maybe they have a few aero tweaks to add later during testing.

[maximilian]

I'd have to agree with most of you, the Renault looks really bland compared to some of the edgy designs we have seen already. Next to the McLaren it looks like a Nissan World Series car... and doesn't look any faster than last year's ill-fated entry. I would imagine we'll see some Petrov sponsors pop up in the final livery version...

[Malbec]

I'd have to agree with most of you, the Renault looks really bland compared to some of the edgy designs we have seen already. Next to the McLaren it looks like a Nissan World Series car... and doesn't look any faster than last year's ill-fated entry.

How do you judge speed based merely on looks?

Anyway these are merely show cars, the Renault in particular since the shots are clearly of a car in a studio as opposed to one being prepared for testing. Why would they bother displaying their latest developments for other teams to peruse at their leisure?

[VkmSpouge]

I think the Renault is the best looking car so far this season. Good luck to Vitaly Petrov in his rookie F1 season.

[maximilian]

How do you judge speed based merely on looks?

Anyway these are merely show cars, the Renault in particular since the shots are clearly of a car in a studio as opposed to one being prepared for testing. Why would they bother displaying their latest developments for other teams to peruse at their leisure?
That's kind of the point of presenting your new car! :D Otherwise you might as well do a useless exercise like that "Mercedes GP Petronas Presentation" last week. :rolleyes: Even if all teams hold back their latest design secrets at the presentation, the Renault still just doesn't "look" fast... but we shall see... ;)

[UltimateDanGTR]

the renault looks very normal and conservative. still, the livery is nice and im glad to see the return of a proper use of yellow.

[woody2goody]

The Renault looks like the 1997 Jordan a little bit :)

The Sauber looks amazing - it simply HAS to be quick.

[Saint Devote]

Definitely the second prettiest car of them all so far - after the MP4-25. Clean lines, sleak and nothing overtly complicated. The suspension set up is just so clear.

Love the nose and front wing.

If it goes as well as it looks, with drivers like Kubica and Petrov, it is going to be one of the successful cars of 2010.

I like the industry related sponsorship of Total - now THIS is how a racing car should be painted and sponsored. Banks just do NOT belong in racing.

Liquor and oil babies, liquor and oil!!! :-]]] Elf Acquitaine where are you - we STILL miss you!

[F1boat]

The Renault looks like the 1997 Jordan a little bit :)

The Sauber looks amazing - it simply HAS to be quick.

Well, I like the Renault, but the Sauber seems conservative and ugly to me.

[yodasarmpit]

Ohh Jordan are back :)

[truefan72]

sauber looks conservative and very plain
the renault, I think will change liveries before Bahrain, from first looks, it seems to be an improvement from 2009

[truefan72]

btw

how come sauber don't have a website, can't find it anywhere

[F1boat]

sauber looks conservative and very plain
the renault, I think will change liveries before Bahrain, from first looks, it seems to be an improvement from 2009

I don't think so. Bob Bell mentioned the new colors and I don't think that he would have done this if this was interim.

[jens]

I like that Sauber - it looks innovative, aggressive and racy, especially the front end. I remember BMW-Sauber's 2009 car looked quite conservative and didn't deliver the results, so it looks like the design team has taken a more aggressive approach this time around. Considering that the 2010 car has been developed with BMW's funds, it may be one of the dark horses for the season, especially for the beginning. However, team's long-term development ability is in doubt. The most worrying part is lack of sponsor signs - haven't they managed to add them yet or what is the case? I see in Renault's case Petrov's sponsors aren't visible on the car yet either.

Now to Renault... Considering that yellow is my favourite colour, it goes without saying, how much I enjoy this livery. :D A bit reminiscent of Jordan, a team, who I really liked as well. And the yellow colour has been nicely mixed with other colours, that ING-Renault was a bit too messy compared to this I'd say. As for Renault's car design - may I tell you that this is not R30, it's probably something from last year. ;) Just take a look at this:
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii14/defjam99b/reno.jpg

All 2010 cars have been longer than the 2009 cars. Surely Renault would have done the same?

[Robinho]

i very much like the look of the Sauber and Renault, in fact all of the new cars so far look visualy stunning to me, so much detail without all the stupid winglets. last years cars were a bit flat, this year there are buubles and curves all over.

i like the front wing mounting on the sauber - return of the walrus anyone?

[52Paddy]

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii14/defjam99b/reno.jpg

1999 BAR anyone? :cheese:

[52Paddy]

As for Renault's car design - may I tell you that this is not R30, it's probably something from last year. ;)

In all fairness, the picture on page 3 has a different front wing and obviously the shark fin airbox which means it can't just be last year's Renault. Though the dimensions (if accurate) might suggest a similar chassis or floorpan. On the other hand, those dimensions could be inaccurate also.

[truefan72]

As for Renault's car design - may I tell you that this is not R30, it's probably something from last year. ;) Just take a look at this:
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii14/defjam99b/reno.jpg

All 2010 cars have been longer than the 2009 cars. Surely Renault would have done the same?

wow that is a good side by side.

you are probably right

surely Renault have updated their design, thi was probaly similar to the mercedes gp liver launch, I expect a redsigned car to hit the testing tracks, otherwise, this would be a stunning (non) development if renault stick with their 2009 design. Maybe they think that the heavier fuel tanks are enough of change to improve the car.

[LiamM]

I like the industry related sponsorship of Total - now THIS is how a racing car should be painted and sponsored. Banks just do NOT belong in racing.

Liquor and oil babies, liquor and oil!!! :-]]] Elf Acquitaine where are you - we STILL miss you!

Can't really call it a sponsor though, when Total(& Elf) and Renault are both owned by the French Government

Not really bothered by liveries generally but that Renault one is a beauty. Very 80's retro.

I feel like a teenager again.

When does Miami Vice start?

[POS_Maggott]

I've always thought school buses looked kind of tacky.

[Saint Devote]

Can't really call it a sponsor though, when Total(& Elf) and Renault are both owned by the French Government

They provide money to go racing - I call that sponsoring. You are welcome to consider it another way.

Importantly these days it is money that enables an f1 team to compete.

[Sonic]

Nice angle on some of the detail work of the sidepods and the floor.

http://www.autosport.com/gallery/photo.php/id/1324339

And is this the exit for the exhaust? Departure from the norm.

http://www.autosport.com/gallery/photo.php/id/1324331

[Malbec]

I like the industry related sponsorship of Total - now THIS is how a racing car should be painted and sponsored. Banks just do NOT belong in racing.

Liquor and oil babies, liquor and oil!!! :-]]] Elf Acquitaine where are you - we STILL miss you!

I don't get it, Total have been supplying Renault for years, their logo has always been on the car so whats new about it?

[Stuartf12007]

The Renault looks awesome.

Pedro De La Rosa is a bad choice for a main driver, he is too old, he will be too slow and he will fail, i expect to see Raikkonnen as an interim replacement by mid season.

Thank you.

[Sonic]

The Renault looks awesome.

Pedro De La Rosa is a bad choice for a main driver, he is too old, he will be too slow and he will fail, i expect to see Raikkonnen as an interim replacement by mid season.

Thank you.

Kimi? What are you smoking? He wouldn't sign for McLaren for 7 million, why would he drive for a mid field sauber which clearly, due to lack of sponsors, could not afford him? However I do agree - PDR is past it - but money talks.

[K-Pu]

Both of them are awesome, and Renault´s livery is just what I was asking for... it only needed ELF instead of Total and it´d be like being back in the summer of ´69. OK, not that far, but like in the 80´s.
I´m also waiting to see how the Sauber runs, because it looks FAST. I know how it looks has nothing to do with performance, but you can always think of 96´s Ferrari and Williams...

This season is getting better and better, and tomorrow we´ll see these cars on track. And Toro Rosso too. In fact, I´m not getting bored this year as other pre-seasons... htat´s a good start.

[Dr. Krogshöj]

Let's see... a sponsorless car with an extremely sophisticated front wing, nicely sculpted side pods and a very compact rear and. Have we seen this before?

As for Renault, I really hope it's not the final car. It looks too simplistic compared to the Sauber and the McLaren.

Both liveries are :up: .

[Cozzie]

Is it possible that BMW started developing their 2010 car quite a while before the 'contenders' (Ferrari, Red Bull, McLaren, Mercedes/Brawn) as it was clear from a very early point in the 2009 season that the BMW was a dog?

Lovely shape on the Sauber.

Lovely livery for the Renault.

[keysersoze]

Every car I've seen so far has looked tremendous!

[Donney]

I love both liveries and as worrying the lack of sponsorship is for the Sauber team, it reminds of times long gone when cars were just one colour and much simpler. Other than that the car shape is nice and I love to see uncovered white wheels.

The Renault livery is absolutely stunning, the design is quite deja vu, though.

[christophulus]

The Sauber is a good looking car, and it's nice to see they've tried something different again from the McLaren and Ferrari launched so far. A bit of sponsorship certainly wouldn't go amiss..

The Renault though? The livery's an improvement over last year but I can't really spot the difference between the "new" car and last year's one.

[jens]

It looks like the car Renault launched yesterday, was R30 though. :p : But oddly enough, is that really the shortest car of the field? It looks like Renault has taken a gamble in design for the second year in a row. First testing day wasn't too impressive for them though...

[callum122]

Sauber is doing it tough. Looks like they had to dust off the '97 rims for this season :)

[Mia 01]

Even in the hands of PDLR the car perhaps was the fastest out there today.

[52Paddy]

i expect to see Raikkonnen as an interim replacement by mid season.

Genuinely?

[jens]

Heidfeld would be a more likely mid-season replacement if there is ever going to be one. By the way, hasn't Sauber still announced their reserve driver? Not long ago there were rumours that Baguette is going to fill in that role. What has happened to that?

[SGWilko]

Baguette is going to fill in that role. What has happened to that?

He got eaten, with some nice Vin and a meaty little Boursin...... :D

[woody2goody]

Renault were less than a second off the pace today, so that's an improvement. They moved 'ahead' of Williams today and Mercedes I think, but it could well be fuel/tyre related.

[jens]

Renault's vast improvement came very late in the session though, before that they were nowhere.

[maximilian]

Renault's vast improvement came very late in the session though, before that they were nowhere.
Nevertheless, it's a relief to see them at least capable of running faster after that dismal looking beginning. Even though everybody always stresses that testing means nothing, fuel loads, bla, bla, it still wouldn't be good for perceptions and/or possible sponsor negotiations if they consistently bring up the rear of the time sheet, especially with Kubica driving. Looks like Toro Rosso is the new butt of the field for now... :dozey:

[leopard]

I think this year's Renault color is more acceptable than last year. Combination of yellow and black with some red stripes looks more work out. The only regret is that ING has to disappear.

Perhaps they want different look for the drivers by using darker yellow, but such yellow as Kubica's outfit is a bit dull, I prefer yellow of the car. The combination of yellow and dark is strong reminder of honey bee Parma...

http://photos.friendster.com/photos/group/26/93/493962/138338463594s.jpg

[bartlock]

LOL

http://formula1vip.com/eric-boullier-is-barry-b-benson/