Who else would you like to have back?

[Sonic]

So this is all very hypothetical but we've got plenty of time on our hands before the new season so what the hey?

Ignoring for a moment little problems such as age or speed (lack thereof), who else would you like to see back in a fantasy F1 field alongside Schu?

To start with I'd like Alan Jones back, both for his speed and his no bull personality.

Your turn...

[jonny hurlock]

could still happen, if he leaves nascar of course, juan pablo montoya, aggressive takes no bs, and connie

[Saint Devote]

So this is all very hypothetical but we've got plenty of time on our hands before the new season so what the hey?

Ignoring for a moment little problems such as age or speed (lack thereof), who else would you like to see back in a fantasy F1 field alongside Schu?

To start with I'd like Alan Jones back, both for his speed and his no bull personality.

Your turn...

There is only one driver I would love to see go head to head with Schumi and in a Mclaren or Red Bull: Niki Lauda.

"The Rat" and Schumi are the only drivers on the same wavelength. The Austrian pioneered the approach.

[CNR]

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[52Paddy]

Drivers long gone: Gilles Villeneave, Ayrton Senna or Tommy Byrne for sheer natural ability and a brave, ballsy approach to driving.

Drivers of a newer age: Sato, to see how he'd match up to the rest of the field on slicks with the current cars. And Enrique Bernoldi, whom I always thought had more to prove - he had some highlighting moments in his short career and I think he could have developed into a decent driver.

[keysersoze]

Bellof

[Valve Bounce]

So this is all very hypothetical but we've got plenty of time on our hands before the new season so what the hey?

Ignoring for a moment little problems such as age or speed (lack thereof), who else would you like to see back in a fantasy F1 field alongside Schu?

To start with I'd like Alan Jones back, both for his speed and his no bull personality.

Your turn...

Sterling Moss - no question.

[Valve Bounce]

There is only one driver I would love to see go head to head with Schumi and in a Mclaren or Red Bull: Niki Lauda.

"The Rat" and Schumi are the only drivers on the same wavelength. The Austrian pioneered the approach.

What approach? Care to elaborate because I find this an extremely interesting comparison. What did Lauda do to have a lapdog support his championship aspirations, when did Niki crashed into other drivers in order to ....etc, etc, etc.

Love to hear your reply on this one.

[Sonic]

Sterling Moss - no question.

Good call.

[Sonic]

What approach? Care to elaborate because I find this an extremely interesting comparison. What did Lauda do to have a lapdog support his championship aspirations, when did Niki crashed into other drivers in order to ....etc, etc, etc.

Love to hear your reply on this one.

Yeah, I found that statement a wee bit odd too. There may be some similarities in their work ethic but other than that......

[UltimateDanGTR]

Moss
Fangio
Clark
Wolfgang Von Trips
Stewart
Graham Hill
Lauda
Andretti
Prost
Senna
Piquet
Mansell
Gilles Villenueve
Ascari

and for teams:
Arrows
Brabham
Lotus (oh no wait, that's happening! well, sort of)
Forti :)
Ligier
Tyrrell
Jordan
Minardi

ah, the dream....

[52Paddy]

Bellof

:up: 'like'

[Josti]

Stefan Bellof indeed and Alessandro Nannini. Both unfulfilled promises.

And Jos Verstappen, but in a good and reliable car for once. :)

[jens]

Ignoring for a moment little problems such as age or speed (lack thereof), who else would you like to see back in a fantasy F1 field alongside Schu?


Hmmm... but what about ignoring other "little problems" like being talented or having funds and witnessing the fellow forum members fighting it out on track instead of debating endlessly here? :D

[Sonic]

Hmmm... but what about ignoring other "little problems" like being talented or having funds and witnessing the fellow forum members fighting it out on track instead of debating endlessly here? :D

:D

[52Paddy]

Hmmm... but what about ignoring other "little problems" like being talented or having funds and witnessing the fellow forum members fighting it out on track instead of debating endlessly here? :D

Would love to see fousto, ioan, Garry Walker and tamburello out there. :D

[ioan]

Would love to see fousto, ioan, Garry Walker and tamburello out there. :D

Poor fousto. :D

[wedge]

JPM

Tommy Bryne

Yuji Ide

[Saint Devote]

What approach? Care to elaborate because I find this an extremely interesting comparison. What did Lauda do to have a lapdog support his championship aspirations, when did Niki crashed into other drivers in order to ....etc, etc, etc.

Love to hear your reply on this one.

You confuse strategy with tactics.

By approach I refer to Lauda being the first driver to actively take the lead in interacting and coordinating with the designer and engineers. During the six week period prior to the 1974 season, Lauda went home only four times and would test from early until late.

During the racing season he would closely study the competition's performance and consulted with Forghieri and pushed and molded the Ferrari team from what it was in 1973 into the team that was able to win THREE world championships in SIX years and if not for his accident, FOUR - although the 1979 car was not at all the best car that year.

I ask Pino his indulgence because this skates very close to having to be included in the F1 History section.

Schumacher's approach is the same and will be unleashed once more from 2010.

[Saint Devote]

How great would it be for Mike Thackwell to be given a real opportunity in Formula One in a competitive car. Now THAT would be justice.

[Saint Devote]

Silly me - this IS under history!!!

[JRodrigues]

Jean Alesi and Kimi Raikkonen

[driveace]

Are we talking past OR present here?
Present; Kimi,Anthony Davidson
Past; Phil Hill ,Wolfgang von Trips, and Moss,all of these i have seen too.

[philipbain]

Taki Inoue - none of the current crop of drivers can get themselves run over by a course car!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fp2QId144g

[UltimateDanGTR]

i forgot lavaggi. He'd be such a laugh to watch.

[F1boat]

Alain Prost and Nigel Mansell.

[Mia 01]

Current: Kimi, JPM and Ralf S!

Past: James Hunt, Clay regazzoni and not last Ronnie Peterson!!

[THE_LIBERATOR]

Mike Hailwood, & then send him back to bikes.

[Garry Walker]

Would love to see fousto, ioan, Garry Walker and tamburello out there. :D

In such a case I would be more successful than Michael Schumacher :)

[Wild Dog]

Bellof
Senna
G. Villeneuve
Sato
Montoya
Frentzen
R. Schumacher
Coulthard
Pizzonia :)
Raikkonen
Jan Magnussen :D

[Pat Wiatrowski]

Phil Hill

[DBell]

Dan Gurney
Jim Clark
Graham Hill
Jack Brabham
Jochen Rindt
Stirling Moss
Gilles Villeneuve
Mario Andretti
The Rodriguez brothers

[UltimateDanGTR]

ferrari: Michael Schumacher, Alberto Ascari, Niki Lauda, Wolfgang Von Trips
Mclaren:Ayrton Senna, Gilles Villeneuve, Mika Hakkinen, Emerson Fittipaldi, Lewis Hamilton
Renault:Alain Prost, Fernando Alonso
Mercedes:Stirling Moss, Juan Manuel Fangio
Williams: Nigel Mansell, Keke Rosberg, Alan Jones,
Lotus: Jim Clark, Mario Andretti, Graham Hill, Ronnie Peterson
Brabham: Denny Hulme, Jack Brabham
Tyrrell: Jackie Stewart, Francois Cevert,
Vanwall: Tony Brooks
Alfa Romeo: Nino Farina, Luigi Fagioli, Tazio Nuvolari

just a quick all-star super-duper dream line up. any additions I could add?

[pino]

Gilles Villeneuve :s mokin:

[UltimateDanGTR]

Gilles Villeneuve :s mokin:

as opposed to gilles villenueve :D

[Wild Dog]

My all-time line-up :)

Ferrari: M.Schumacher, N.Lauda, G.Villeneuve
Williams: A.Jones, N.Mansell, K.Rosberg
McLaren: J.Hunt, A.Senna, M.Hakkinen
Lotus: J.Clark, E.Fittipaldi, R.Peterson
Mercedes: J.M.Fangio, S. Moss, N.Rosberg
Renault: A.Prost, F.Alonso, R.Arnoux
Benetton: G.Berger, A.Nannini, T.Boutsen
Brabham: J.Brabham, D.Hulme, N.Piquet
Ligier: J.Laffite, P.Depailler, D.Pironi
Tyrrell: J.Stewart, M.Alboreto, J.Scheckter

Maybe i have missing someone?

[Instant Mash]

James Hunt or Gerhard Berger.

[AAReagles]

Dan Gurney
Jim Clark
Graham Hill
Jack Brabham
Jochen Rindt
Stirling Moss
Gilles Villeneuve
Mario Andretti
The Rodriguez brothers

:up: Excellent choices! :bounce:

Only one I would add to that list would be Ronnie Peterson.

[Hawkmoon]

Jacques Villeneuve. The man can't drive for **** but this forum was much more fun when he was around.

Schumi vs JV vs JPM! Them was the days.

[52Paddy]

Jacques Villeneuve. The man can't drive for **** but this forum was much more fun when he was around.

Agree :up: And possibly Luca Badoer, especially for ioan :p :

[Bagwan]

Jacques Villeneuve. The man can't drive for **** but this forum was much more fun when he was around.

Schumi vs JV vs JPM! Them was the days.

Can't drive for **** , but just topped the sheets in Nationwide , never having driven the car before , mid-season , at a track they've never been to in the series .
That's 1.18seconds ahead of the field .

Yeah , can't drive for **** .


You want some real fun on the track , too ?
Get him back .

[UltimateDanGTR]

Jacques Villeneuve. The man can't drive for **** but this forum was much more fun when he was around.

Schumi vs JV vs JPM! Them was the days.

well then considering he can't drive for ****, he must have been awfully lucky to win the CART championship in 1995 and F1 world championship in 1997.

he was a very good driver in his prime, unfortunatly he was beginning to be past his best by the turn of the century.

having said that, as mentioned above, fastest in NASCAR nationwide practice is not bad.

[markabilly]

well then considering he can't drive for ****, he must have been awfully lucky to win the CART championship in 1995 and F1 world championship in 1997.

he was a very good driver in his prime, unfortunatly he was beginning to be past his best by the turn of the century.

having said that, as mentioned above, fastest in NASCAR nationwide practice is not bad.
actually in 1997, I thought JV was going to be one of the absolute best ever.....and then he just seemed to go off somewhere in less than about two or three years later..... :confused: ....I have wondered if that would be the path of hamilton, but so far, it seems not.

It will be interesting if Vettel goes down the JV path.....after Monza that year, I thought the Seb was on the very same path to absolute greatness...what a performance in the rain...but now?????????

[jens]

The most efficient way of spicing up debates on a random F1 forum would be the battle of Senna v Schumacher.

[52Paddy]

actually in 1997, I thought JV was going to be one of the absolute best ever.....and then he just seemed to go off somewhere in less than about two or three years later..... :confused: ...

Well, Williams made a dog of a car for 1998. Although his team-mate (Ralf Schumacher?) got the better of him that year, one can be forgiven for not adjusting well to the new grooved tyres. And, by 1999, he agreed to step on board the over-optimistic BAR project. I'm not even saying that he did the best with his machinery - but I do think his downfall was a series of unfortunate mis-matches and unfulfilled prospect.

[BT46B]

There is only one driver I would love to see go head to head with Schumi and in a Mclaren or Red Bull: Niki Lauda.

"The Rat" and Schumi are the only drivers on the same wavelength. The Austrian pioneered the approach.

OMIGOD we AGREE!!!

[Hawkmoon]

See what I mean? One negative comment about JV and people are firing up all over the place!

This forum had some real spice when JV was in F1 and at his best, or worst, depending on your point of view.

[Tazio]

See what I mean? One negative comment about JV and people are firing up all over the place!

This forum had some real spice when JV was in F1 and at his best, or worst, depending on your point of view.True Dat!! :D

[Saint Devote]

Based on that splendid 1984 Monaco Grand Prix, a time when not Prost and Senna were teammates at Mclaren, but Senna as teammate to the man who was even QUICKER than him on that wet Monte Carlo afternoon: Stefan Bellof.

And another: Mike Thackwell, absolutely electrifying in an f2 car on the Nordschelife, in a Red Bull or Ferrari.

[52Paddy]

Based on that splendid 1984 Monaco Grand Prix, a time when not Prost and Senna were teammates at Mclaren, but Senna as teammate to the man who was even QUICKER than him on that wet Monte Carlo afternoon: Stefan Bellof.

Very good choice :up:

I'll follow that up by suggestion a man with mountains of potential: Tom Pryce - killed in a freak accident way before he had a chance to develop his career.