Arctic 2010

[Mauri A]

As far as I know both Quesnel and M Wilson are coming to Arctic. For sure the Fiesta will be driven there, but is it Tuohino or Hirvonen? Some rumours of Ogier also participating are widespread. Looks very interesting January!

[wotaguy]

Mauri A.sounds great,would love to see Tuohino back.

certainly is a dream rally for me, always wanted to attend to marshal/spectate well maybe one day, i have mailed about merchandise, got no reply as yet :(

[Rallyper]

Artic 10 would be more correct, wouldn´t it? ;)

[Francis44]

Great event, looking foward to bext year!!!!

[J4MIE]

I'd be very interested in going to this event, one day........ :)

[wotaguy]

well thats two then J4mie,a few more and we got a rally tour :D

[306 Cosworth]

I believe Hirvonen will be there in his Escort Mark 2. Mark Solloway is building 2 brand new Escorts just for this rally, 1 driven by him and the other driven by Hugh Evans. I've heard Raikkonen(sp?) is going to be there in the C4 too.

[M5]

http://www.arcticrally.fi/english/arcticlaplandrally.html

[Hartusvuori]

Räikkönen in C4 confirmed (http://www.wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk=101&id=6601&desc=Raikkonen+confirms+Arctic+warm-up+in+Citroen+C4).

[ZequeArgentina]

It looks like a very good rally, the "real snow Finland rally", as Mauri teaches to the ones who want to listen!!

PS: How is life Mauri, your Alexander LLoyd? Here waiting for the second (and supposely last) child. (June 2010)

[SubaruNorway]

Uploaded two inboards with Latvala from 2006 in the Corolla WRC here.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Artic-Lapland-Rally-2006_201579.htm

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Artic-Lapland-Rally-2006_201583.htm

[Hartusvuori]

Those considering buying the Colin McRae - Rally Legend DVD take note that there are Colin McRae onboards from 1992 Arctic Rally as bonus feature. I didn't realize this before buying so it came as a positive surprise. And it's great document otherwise as well.

Of course those are uploaded to YouTube already as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aff2JeNPNs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET0GjaaxMoE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aBQGie2B4w

One lucky escape on SS2 at 3'00", don't you think.

[Boudica]

RÄIKKÖNEN FILLS ALL THE HOTELS

Räikkönen taking part in Arctic rally is a huge marketing asset for the organisers.

- If this doesn't bring the gang here then nothing does. You can see it daily in papers too. There has never been this kind of media rumba at this stage. If 200 reporters are coming in from the world and everybody wants to stay in a room for one person, then where can we put them all, the marketing manager Heikki Poranen wondered.

- First I want to see Kimi drive three long and special kind of stages on Friday and I will give statements after that. When he comes in from the 4th SS we will see what kind of a man he is. It's not good to judge anyone beforehand, Poranen said.

Much depends also on the starting order since if the national rally cars start first then Räikkönen gets with his WRC-car out on pretty worn out roads.

- Everything is still open. Let's see how many WRC-cars there will come. AKK-Motorsport will make the starting position list. Everybody wants to drive first on snow, then again nobody wants to drive first on gravel. On the other hand sometimes the circumstances can be so that a later starting position can be even better, Poranen thinks.

- Formula-things are still so in the middle that I don't know if Kubica will drive. It's just the article from some time ago where he said that he would be interested in driving here. Everything is still mixed up. Does Renault even have a car he could drive in a snow rally with? The employers are the one who decide it in the end, Poranen reminded.

(Translation thanks to Nicole)

[Helstar]

RÄIKKÖNEN FILLS ALL THE HOTELS

At first I was thinking from this phrase that Kimi rent a whole hotel for himself alone lololilol ! :p

[Tom206wrc]

I hope there will be many S2000s on this edition :)

[Koppomsbo]

Does Renault even have a car he could drive in a snow rally with? T



:up:

[Mauri A]

:up:
What about an Alpine 110?

[miksu]

Uploaded two inboards with Latvala from 2006 in the Corolla WRC here.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Artic-Lapland-Rally-2006_201579.htm

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Artic-Lapland-Rally-2006_201583.htm

wow, very nice videos! thank you very much! The Corolla sounds like a tank and how the sun colors the sky red is just amazing! Big snow banks and a very narrow road...just great :)

[Buzz Lightyear]

any other other f1 driver want a drive?!
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80592

[Buzz Lightyear]

wow, very nice videos! thank you very much! The Corolla sounds like a tank and how the sun colors the sky red is just amazing! Big snow banks and a very narrow road...just great :)

looks like he strapped his mate to the roof with a handy cam!

[Koppomsbo]

What about an Alpine 110?

or this :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogqRK6Esn3g&feature=related

[Viking]

or this :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogqRK6Esn3g&feature=related

Or this (almost an renault isnt it??) :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya6q0wTdsdQ

Got to love a car with wiper on the driver side door window!!!

[Mirek]

According to autosport.com Heiki Kovalainen may drive Proton Satria in Arctic Rally: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80592

[pucky54]

]According to autosport.com Heiki Kovalainen may drive Proton Satria in Arctic Rally: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80592

Makes sense, cause he is driving for the same company in Formula 1

[Mauri A]

]According to autosport.com Heiki Kovalainen may drive Proton Satria in Arctic Rally: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80592
From the 70´s to 90´s the Arctic was a proper rally, now it looks like a Tivoli! Next news will tell that Schumi will participate with a MB 180 Diesel.

[Mirek]

I personaly don't see anything wrong with F1 drivers trying rallying and vice versa.

[Mauri A]

]I personaly don't see anything wrong with F1 drivers trying rallying and vice versa.
Right, but I´m annoyed because the media is concentrated to the "visitors" and forgetting all other competitors.

[cali]

Right, but I´m annoyed because the media is concentrated to the "visitors" and forgetting all other competitors.

Right You are, no talk about fast drivers ;)

[Mirek]

Right, but I´m annoyed because the media is concentrated to the "visitors" and forgetting all other competitors.

Ah, ok, that's good point. Unfortunately...

[Hartusvuori]

Right, but I´m annoyed because the media is concentrated to the "visitors" and forgetting all other competitors.

Easy to see your point, but it's also either talk about F1 stars or no talk at all. Finnish national rally championship wasn't really the hot topic in Finnish media this year - or will be next year after Arctic.

Any news on Hirvonen and/or Latvala doing Arctic with Escort Mk II's?

[Hartusvuori]

According to Finnish newspaper Turun Sanomat (http://www-2.cms.ts.fi/f1/uutiset/96804.html), also Ogier would drive a C4 in Arctic. Would make sense if the team would arrive to the rally with Kimi, but I'd like to have a second source for that.

[AndyRAC]

Easy to see your point, but it's also either talk about F1 stars or no talk at all. Finnish national rally championship wasn't really the hot topic in Finnish media this year - or will be next year after Arctic.

Any news on Hirvonen and/or Latvala doing Arctic with Escort Mk II's?

Mm, was reading something recently, that stated Rallying has no 'stars', which is quite sad, and that it has to 'import' personalities to get any media coverage, e;g Raikkonen, Rossi, etc

[Tomi]

From the 70´s to 90´s the Arctic was a proper rally, now it looks like a Tivoli! Next news will tell that Schumi will participate with a MB 180 Diesel.

I agree, but its still our most important rally after jysväskylä, its more to blame the media than the organiser if they focus on wrong issues, good thing is that Poranen is in charge, he will keep the rally as a proper season starter with status.

[Boudica]

From Autosprint:

Ogier, The Teammate
At the Arctic to help Kimi
Revelation of the 2008 season, when he won the Junior Worldchampionship at the debut and impressed in Wales with the WRC. Among the best rookies this year, at the first full job with a WRC, the other Sebastien - Ogier - is the future Raikkonen’s teammate. Excited? "The arrival of Kimi between us is a great thing, good for the rally - said Ogier. And you'll see that he will do well quickly, he can learn in little time. He didn’t win a F1 Worldchampionship by chance. Certainly, he’s not accustomed to the notes, and this will be a problem for him, if not “the” problem. At first I saw him a bit in difficulty, but then he improved quickly.” Will you help him? "For the notes it will be difficult, I can do very little. But about the car adjusting, there won’t be any problems: the Citroen team has all the skills to do any kind of work and give him any suggestion. However, I will stay close to him. Also because it is an honour to have a F1 World Champion in the team. Most likely I will be at the Arctic Rally at end of January to make training for the Rally of Sweden, that will open the World Championship." And to be a wet nurse to the rookie - on WRC - Kimi Raikkonen...

[Mauri A]

Mm, was reading something recently, that stated Rallying has no 'stars', which is quite sad, and that it has to 'import' personalities to get any media coverage, e;g Raikkonen, Rossi, etc

The Arctic organizers do not import anybody, the "stars" are coming from their own iniative.

[cali]

The Arctic organizers do not import anybody, the "stars" are coming from their own iniative.

Agreed, shame that this rally is not in WRC, cause it is one of the best rallies in the World. That's why so many "big names" are participating.

[Sulland]

Agreed, shame that this rally is not in WRC, cause it is one of the best rallies in the World. That's why so many "big names" are participating.

I feel it should have been "the" winter rally of IRC, since Finland will not get two rounds, and the rally they have on the WRC calendar need to stay !

[Tomi]

I feel it should have been "the" winter rally of IRC, since Finland will not get two rounds, and the rally they have on the WRC calendar need to stay !

its good the organiser dont share your feelings, its good the way it is now.

[cali]

I feel it should have been "the" winter rally of IRC, since Finland will not get two rounds, and the rally they have on the WRC calendar need to stay !
Actually I thought about it aswell and seems to be very good idea, cause IRC does not have a proper snow rally in their calendar. Arctic Rally in IRC sounds good to me. Any thoughts from finns?

EDIT: Tomi has already answered. Can You be more specific?

[Buzz Lightyear]

I feel it should have been "the" winter rally of IRC, since Finland will not get two rounds, and the rally they have on the WRC calendar need to stay !

Was'nt there some issue with tyres, and IRC is an open tyre supplier, not all of them had developed snow tyres? Maybe I am wrong, but there was something like that.

[Tomi]

Actually I thought about it aswell and seems to be very good idea, cause IRC does not have a proper snow rally in their calendar. Arctic Rally in IRC sounds good to me. Any thoughts from finns?

EDIT: Tomi has already answered. Can You be more specific?

Sure, first our national series has own sponsors, that makes organising it difficult, and for second irc dont bring any more value to Arctic rally, so no reason to screw up a very good rally.

[Buzz Lightyear]

EDIT: Tomi has already answered. Can You be more specific?

He just prefers celebrity drivers, than proper rally drivers... that's all.

[COD]

Was'nt there some issue with tyres, and IRC is an open tyre supplier, not all of them had developed snow tyres? Maybe I am wrong, but there was something like that.

The problem was, that Finnish federation selected Pirelli as sole supplier of tyres of Finnish championship. As IRC is open to all tyre manufacturers, they couldn't mix those two and that was it. Arctic organisers were not very happy as I have heard...

[Buzz Lightyear]

The problem was, that Finnish federation selected Pirelli as sole supplier of tyres of Finnish championship. As IRC is open to all tyre manufacturers, they couldn't mix those two and that was it. Arctic organisers were not very happy as I have heard...

Yes, thanks COD. I can understand the reason for a controlled stud tyre, so that one is not soo easy to resolve.

[cali]

Thanks guys for clearing this thought!

[COD]

Yes, thanks COD. I can understand the reason for a controlled stud tyre, so that one is not soo easy to resolve.

It is not only controlled stud, but same as WRC, single tyre supplier.

The regulation for studded tyres is strict enough, it doesn't need a single supplier to make it equal

[Mauri A]

Just heard from Heikki Poranen, the Chairman of the Arctic, that some mad Swede has entered with a 4,7 litre Ford Falcon in the Historic Class!
Thats madness I like!
Some of you on this Forum might remember the sounds of those cars in Monte Carlo, drivers like Bosse Ljungberg going uphill with a fantastic roar and coming downhill without any brakes.
It has been many years when I haven´t been out there, even though I live in Rovaniemi, but now I´ve have to see it.
By the way, it´s -35C now here!

[Tomi]

By the way, it´s -35C now here!

Really, if it get colder you soon might have to use hat, have a nice rally, and tell Poranen to keep up the good work.

P.S. Any news about next year Jyskälä route?

[RS]

and for second irc dont bring any more value to Arctic rally, so no reason to screw up a very good rally.

??

I don't think IRC has any rigid requirements for the way an event is run, and if it was a part of the IRC then entries would only increase. Nothing wrong with that is there?

I think there are lots of rallies around Europe that are (or would be) glad of IRC status.

[Tomi]

??

I don't think IRC has any rigid requirements for the way an event is run, and if it was a part of the IRC then entries would only increase. Nothing wrong with that is there?

I think there are lots of rallies around Europe that are (or would be) glad of IRC status.

You see, the rallies have different sponsors, but I guess it would be ok if our national and then the international would drive first, after those all the adverts would be changed and irc comes after.

Many did think ERC was somekind status too, so did Arctic, but desided very soon to skip the ERC, I belive its a little same with IRC.

[Langdale Forest]

By the way, it´s -35C now here!


It's -4C here in a very tropical Yorkshire! :D

[ProRally]

Really, if it get colder you soon might have to use hat, have a nice rally, and tell Poranen to keep up the good work.

P.S. Any news about next year Jyskälä route?

Nice and cold , did Arctic like 6 times, in 2000 we had -52°c , they cancelled stages , specially the long ones...

Imagen breaking down in middle of stage.... brrrrrrrrr

[Tomi]

Nice and cold , did Arctic like 6 times, in 2000 we had -52°c , they cancelled stages , specially the long ones...

Imagen breaking down in middle of stage.... brrrrrrrrr


Lol, crazy guy, the coldest i have been in is i think -39°c, yes if something happens to the car or driving off, it would be serious problem.

[janvanvurpa]

Just heard from Heikki Poranen, the Chairman of the Arctic, that some mad Swede has entered with a 4,7 litre Ford Falcon in the Historic Class!
Thats madness I like!
Some of you on this Forum might remember the sounds of those cars in Monte Carlo, drivers like Bosse Ljungberg going uphill with a fantastic roar and coming downhill without any brakes.
It has been many years when I haven´t been out there, even though I live in Rovaniemi, but now I´ve have to see it.
By the way, it´s -35C now here!


Hej Mauri, you live there in Rovaniemi!!!??
Can you look in the phone book and see if you can find an old friend I knew when I was bashing my head into the ground all around France doing moto-cross in the 1970s??

Pauli Pippola is his name, and I never saw a man so homesick and longing for fishing in the Summer as Pauli.
kiitos

I'd love to send him a note,,,


We now return you to Arctic ralli......
Pretty cold.
Coldest rally I do ever was -40 at rally Perce Niege, in 1996, all stages veery shiney blue clear ICE and no studs allowed. Oi oi oi.

Lucky you Finns are that kind of crazy....

[Mauri A]

Hej Mauri, you live there in Rovaniemi!!!??
Can you look in the phone book and see if you can find an old friend I knew when I was bashing my head into the ground all around France doing moto-cross in the 1970s??

Pauli Pippola is his name, and I never saw a man so homesick and longing for fishing in the Summer as Pauli.
kiitos

I'd love to send him a note,,,


We now return you to Arctic ralli......
Pretty cold.
Coldest rally I do ever was -40 at rally Perce Niege, in 1996, all stages veery shiney blue clear ICE and no studs allowed. Oi oi oi.

Lucky you Finns are that kind of crazy....
I just tried to phone him but got no answer. I´ll try later and tell him your message, I´m sure he will be delighted hearing from you!

[OldF]

Pretty cold.
Coldest rally I do ever was -40 at rally Perce Niege, in 1996, all stages veery shiney blue clear ICE and no studs allowed. Oi oi oi.

Lucky you Finns are that kind of crazy....

Yes, but if have few barrels of few weeks old mjöd with you, the cold coming in to the body from outside can be compensated with the warm of the mjöd from inside of the body.

[morganmilan]

Hi guys. There´s no information at official website about entries. Does anyone know anything about finnish drivers to run the rally and the car they´re going to use? I´m thinking about Ketomaa, Salo, Rantanen, etc

[Tomi]

Hi guys. There´s no information at official website about entries. Does anyone know anything about finnish drivers to run the rally and the car they´re going to use? I´m thinking about Ketomaa, Salo, Rantanen, etc

I think Ketomaas this seasons program is a bit open still, but my guess is that he start in Arctic with a Tommi Mäkinen prepaired Subaru, and Salo with a EvoX, nothing still about Rantanen, very few entrys sofar, i guess next week we know more.

[rp]

The entries deadline is 18th January, so still plenty of time and that is the reason why there is not yet many drivers. From the AKK-Motorsport site you can follow:

http://kiti.akk-motorsport.fi/modules/system/stdreq.aspx?P=1&VID=default&SID=118357342647888&A=open%3akiti%3aregistration_listclasses%3a192456% 2cset%3asession.l9%3aregistration_listclasses&S=2&C=54357

[morganmilan]

Thnx both of you ;)

[janvanvurpa]

Yes, but if have few barrels of few weeks old mjöd with you, the cold coming in to the body from outside can be compensated with the warm of the mjöd from inside of the body.


Personal anti-freeze of the best sort! Works great too!
Over here nobody even knows what mjöd is. Strange world...

And thanks for the contact, now we have to see if Pauli is a rally fan.
he ought to be, he hit his on the ground for more years than I did!

And faster, too! Pauli did VM i 250 Motocross and even did some VM125, so he's crazy enough to stand out in -35 drinking!

[Tomi]

Personal anti-freeze of the best sort! Works great too!
Over here nobody even knows what mjöd is. Strange world...

And thanks for the contact, now we have to see if Pauli is a rally fan.
he ought to be, he hit his on the ground for more years than I did!

And faster, too! Pauli did VM i 250 Motocross and even did some VM125, so he's crazy enough to stand out in -35 drinking!

Is this the same Pauli who drives snowcross too?

[janvanvurpa]

Is this the same Pauli who drives snowcross too?


I don't know what Pauli did when he retired from International competition so he might have done snow-cross but he did have a son who was 4 or 5 when we were in France together in 1977-79, I really can't remember the boys name but we were great friends. A nice small town in France called Conneré just north of Le mans would let us International cross guys stay at the municipal campground for free since we shopped in town and drank in town and there were no "other kids" for poiki to play with so I would chase him and ambush him
like jumping out of trees and throwing him UP into trees or bursting out of the van when he was passing and "fighting" giant hours long fights with him.

That kid was the toughest kid I ever met and only cried one time: when they were returning to Rovaniemi and he was told "the Monster' was not coming...
So maybe it was his son.
Can't be too many Pauli Piipola from the Home of the Arctic rally.

What years are you talking?

[Mauri A]

Is this the same Pauli who drives snowcross too?
Same Pauli, I think he´s not competing anymore but working at SkiDoos racing department.

[Tomi]

Same Pauli, I think he´s not competing anymore but working at SkiDoos racing department.

Ahaa ok thats what i tought, he is quite a legend, i think i remember a commersial where he was driving with Markku Alen too, Pauli with snowmobile, Alen with car.

[rdr]

Lynx - First Syncro | Alen vs Piippola
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS9NxtZMNOw

[ProRally]

Lynx - First Syncro | Alen vs Piippola
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS9NxtZMNOw

:D :D :D :D 1987 where is the time.......

[Tomi]

lol, it looks a bit funny now, snowmobiles looks a bit different nowdays too.

[OldF]

Personal anti-freeze of the best sort! Works great too!
Over here nobody even knows what mjöd is. Strange world...

Maybe we should give the recipe:

Mjöd = yeast + sugar + few days of bubbling. :facelick:

Better mjöd = water + lot of yeast + lot of sugar + few weeks of bubbling. :dozey:

[Tomi]

Maybe we should give the recipe:

Mjöd = yeast + sugar + few days of bubbling. :facelick:

Better mjöd = water + lot of yeast + lot of sugar + few weeks of bubbling. :dozey:

you forgot the lemon and raisins, on the other hand they are not so important.

[COD]

Nice and cold , did Arctic like 6 times, in 2000 we had -52°c , they cancelled stages , specially the long ones...

Imagen breaking down in middle of stage.... brrrrrrrrr

it was 1999, but yes it was cold!

[ProRally]

it was 1999, but yes it was cold!

Could also be 1999, going to rally's since 1978 so they do get mixed somewhat :D :D

And no, did not have to many drinks at Doris .... :D :D

[Tomi]

And no, did not have to many drinks at Doris .... :D :D
And you think someone belive this :)

[Mirek]

Michal Solowow comes again.

[Mauri A]

Could also be 1999, going to rally's since 1978 so they do get mixed somewhat :D :D

And no, did not have to many drinks at Doris .... :D :D
So, you started when I finished! I mean going to rallies, not Doris.

[Tom206wrc]

]Michal Solowow comes again.



GrN or S2000 for him :confused:

[Tomi]

GrN or S2000 for him :confused:

the one you hope and wish for i guess.

[Langdale Forest]

Nice and cold , did Arctic like 6 times, in 2000 we had -52°c , they cancelled stages , specially the long ones...

Imagen breaking down in middle of stage.... brrrrrrrrr

I thought the cars would not work at that temperature.

[306 Cosworth]

I think they cancel the rally if the temperatures drop below -40c?

[Nikey]

They have added a new class for "drivers with WRC cars, and who will participate at least one WRC rally this year". These drivers will drive before Finnish Championship classes. Has someone asked them to do so or is this their own idea?

Text both in finnish and english
http://www.arcticrally.fi/pdf/lisamaarays_1.pdf?tietokanta=tekstit&tiedosto=28_10_2009.txt

[Tomi]

They have added a new class for "drivers with WRC cars, and who will participate at least one WRC rally this year". These drivers will drive before Finnish Championship classes. Has someone asked them to do so or is this their own idea?

Text both in finnish and english
http://www.arcticrally.fi/pdf/lisamaarays_1.pdf?tietokanta=tekstit&tiedosto=28_10_2009.txt

no idea, but I think its good, every year there is someone in Arctic who wants to prepaire for the WRC season opener, and the obligation to partcipate in a WRC rally is maybe there so it remains a rally and not a freak parade.

[Langdale Forest]

I think they cancel the rally if the temperatures drop below -40c?


What would be the reason?

[Sulland]

What would be the reason?

Have you driven a normal car often i minus 40 ? They dont like it much either, and top tuned rallycars even less.

The two rallies in Norway lately was done in minus 25, and the tuned cars had enough trouble with that. Few of the rallycars have kept a full heater/defroster like on a normal car, so it is as warm in the car as the outside !
If you get snow into the airintake og the heaterfan it will mist up the front window and freeze in seconds, and you dont see much anymore.

The finns have sisu, and are tough, but even they have a limit.... :D

[pantealex]

Fiesta S2000 is homologated only with 15" and 18" tyres/wheels/rims, because in WRC they only use those sizes.
In Finish championship pirelli controltyre in winter is 16" which you must use, so Janne Tuohino can´t drive in arcticrally with fiesta!
Only modern WRC´s can use 15" at the moment.
http://www.arcticrally.fi/pdf/lisamaarays_1.pdf?tietokanta=tekstit&tiedosto=28_10_2009.txt same link that before, concerning modern WRC´s and tyre issues.

[Tom206wrc]

Any news about entrylist so far :confused:

[bluuford]

Any news about entrylist so far :confused:

It has been there all the tie:
http://kiti.akk-motorsport.fi/modules/system/stdreq.aspx?P=1&VID=default&SID=435692877729324&A=open%3akiti%3ac8%3a192456%2cset%3asession.l9%3ac 8%2cset%3asession.t9%3a192456&S=2&C=41354
on the left click: Ilmoittautuneet
60 entries so far.

[richy]

damn i cant find the entrylist!

[Tomi]

damn i cant find the entrylist!

try this one

http://kiti.akk-motorsport.fi/modules/system/stdreq.aspx?P=1&VID=default&SID=956265214756597&A=open%3akiti%3aregistration_listclasses%3a192456% 2cset%3asession.l9%3aregistration_listclasses&S=2&C=53092

[richy]

try this one

http://kiti.akk-motorsport.fi/modules/system/stdreq.aspx?P=1&VID=default&SID=956265214756597&A=open%3akiti%3aregistration_listclasses%3a192456% 2cset%3asession.l9%3aregistration_listclasses&S=2&C=53092

top man! :) sure you guys will be impressed with mark solloway in the mk2, mega entertainer over here on these shores!

[DonJippo]

Dani Sordo is on the entrylist for Arctic rally.

[306 Cosworth]

Entry list doesn't work for me. Keeps coming up with a page all in Finnish with no sign of the word Ilmoittautuneet :(

I don't think Solloway will do that well as driving on Snow for the first time will be soooo different to anything else.

[bluuford]

Entry list doesn't work for me. Keeps coming up with a page all in Finnish with no sign of the word Ilmoittautuneet :(

I don't think Solloway will do that well as driving on Snow for the first time will be soooo different to anything else.

Ok try the following:
http://kiti.akk-motorsport.fi/

Then click "KILPAILUT" on the top menu.
Then opens the list of rallies.
There you can find something like: "45. Arctic Lapland Rally"
Click on it as well.
now on the left menu you can click on the: "Ilmoittautuneet" and you are there :-)

[pantealex]

J.Latvala (escort) and K.Räikkönen (C4) are also in entrylist

[RICARDO75]

Entry list

http://kiti.akk-motorsport.fi/modules/system/stdreq.aspx?P=1&VID=default&SID=937913079628368&A=open%3akiti%3aregistration_listclasses%3a192456% 2cset%3asession.l9%3aregistration_listclasses&S=2&C=58833

[Tomi]

1 interesting to follow also is joonas lindroos in a GrN Subaru

[Fly]

1 interesting to follow also is joonas lindroos in a GrN Subaru

Yes! That's the first thing that came into my mind when I saw the list.

I rate him as high as Ketomaa and maybe Nikara. What about you Finns?

[Tomi]

Yes! That's the first thing that came into my mind when I saw the list.

I rate him as high as Ketomaa and maybe Nikara. What about you Finns?

I have been following Lindroos carreer for many years already, actually already before he started to compete there was rumours that he was almost on par with his sister who was a blody fast driver too.
But he is difficult to rate I think, he has had good and not so good seasons, but now he drive in same class as the ones you mentioned, but also I dont think he will be yet a too big challenge for Ketomaa and a few others, but in top 5 he should be a regular right away, and in the end of the season in top 3.

[Fly]

I have been following Lindroos carreer for many years already, actually already before he started to compete there was rumours that he was almost on par with his sister who was a blody fast driver too.
But he is difficult to rate I think, he has had good and not so good seasons, but now he drive in same class as the ones you mentioned, but also I dont think he will be yet a too big challenge for Ketomaa and a few others, but in top 5 he should be a regular right away, and in the end of the season in top 3.

I don't expect him to challenge the big guys neither (at least not before mid-season) but I've been impressed by his speed and consistency last season.
Very few mistakes and fast(est) all the way!
Maybe Tommi (Makinen) has a good idea about his future.

[Tomi]

Maybe Tomi (Makinen) has a good idea about his future.

I think that its up to him self, from now on too, cars and everything else should be top class.

[VFTS]

J.Latvala (escort) and K.Räikkönen (C4) are also in entrylist

Its the father I think....
Jari Latvala is the father of Jari-Matti Latvala.

[pantealex]

Its the father I think....
Jari Latvala is the father of Jari-Matti Latvala.
Yes, that is the case, just like Malcolm and Mathew

[Tom206wrc]

Ok try the following:
http://kiti.akk-motorsport.fi/

Then click "KILPAILUT" on the top menu.
Then opens the list of rallies.
There you can find something like: "45. Arctic Lapland Rally"
Click on it as well.
now on the left menu you can click on the: "Ilmoittautuneet" and you are there :-)



OK thanks, now I found the entrylist ;)

[Tomi]

Kimi has given his Fiat Grande Crap S2000, to his brother Rami, who is possibly going to do Arctic Rally as well.

[RS]

Yes, that is the case, just like Malcolm and Mathew

Except faster :)

[Hartusvuori]

I have been following Lindroos carreer for many years already, actually already before he started to compete there was rumours that he was almost on par with his sister who was a blody fast driver too.
But he is difficult to rate I think, he has had good and not so good seasons, but now he drive in same class as the ones you mentioned, but also I dont think he will be yet a too big challenge for Ketomaa and a few others, but in top 5 he should be a regular right away, and in the end of the season in top 3.

Lindroos is definitely the most interesting driver for this season. He has rather limited experience in four-wheel drive cars (he did Rally Finland in 2004 (?) with Lancer and was 4th or 5th before retiring on the final day), but I believe he will adopt to the class very well. On FWD he rules. I expect top 3 results already from the winter rallies.

Another interesting thing is that Ketomaa is not on the start list yet, so perhaps he's planning something international for this year. If anyone knows better, I'd like to know.

[Tomi]

Another interesting thing is that Ketomaa is not on the start list yet, so perhaps he's planning something international for this year. If anyone knows better, I'd like to know.

I was thinking the same, when i did read that the Evo guys are aiming for a tripple in Finnish Championships.
This is pure guessing, but now when Tommi spoke about his plans, for next year, its likely that Ketomaa play some part in those too, therefore many as possible WRC event start would make sence, better wait and see.

[Hartusvuori]

I was thinking the same, when i did read that the Evo guys are aiming for a tripple in Finnish Championships.

That meant championships for drivers, co-drivers and teams - not 1-2-3 in drivers' championship - if you meant this (http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/ralli/uutiset.shtml/arkistot/ralli/2010/01/1032955). They could aim for a triple even if Ketomaa chooses to join in.

[Tomi]

That meant championships for drivers, co-drivers and teams - not 1-2-3 in drivers' championship - if you meant this (http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/ralli/uutiset.shtml/arkistot/ralli/2010/01/1032955). They could aim for a triple even if Ketomaa chooses to join in.

ahh, you are right, i missunderstood, i was thinking 1-2-3 in drivers.

[morganmilan]

Could I make a question to our finn mates? I´m a little lost about finnish drivers and their abilities. I guess for your posts that Ketomaa and Nykara are the best ones, is that right? How would you situate Katajamaki, Salo, Puhakka, Tuohino, Valimaki and others? Are they any good? Sorry if it´s a difficult question, but I am really interested about that point. Many thnx in advance ;)

[Hartusvuori]

..and Nykara ...

Perhaps the most misspelled Finnish name.

Salo is pretty much as fast as Ketomaa in GrN car. Last season he did more fastest stage times than Ketomaa even if Ketomaa took the title. Katajamäki is really good on a good day - just like Välimäki - but last season was unfortunate for him. Tuohino's current speed compared to other S-WRC guys is a bit of question mark. He did okayish in last year's Rally Finland before the clutch problem.

Once again I'd advise to look at Lindroos. If he do well in four-wheel drive car this year he could have far more options at the end of the season than he have thus far in his career. It was really a shame that his last season's biggest mistake happened at the most crucial time, at Pirelli shootout. As an interesting detail, last year Lindroos was faster than Räikkönen on the first stages of Arctic Lapland even if he had FWD against Räikkönen's 4WD.

[morganmilan]

Perhaps the most misspelled Finnish name.

Salo is pretty much as fast as Ketomaa in GrN car. Last season he did more fastest stage times than Ketomaa even if Ketomaa took the title. Katajamäki is really good on a good day - just like Välimäki - but last season was unfortunate for him. Tuohino's current speed compared to other S-WRC guys is a bit of question mark. He did okayish in last year's Rally Finland before the clutch problem.

Once again I'd advise to look at Lindroos. If he do well in four-wheel drive car this year he could have far more options at the end of the season than he have thus far in his career. It was really a shame that his last season's biggest mistake happened at the most crucial time, at Pirelli shootout. As an interesting detail, last year Lindroos was faster than Räikkönen on the first stages of Arctic Lapland even if he had FWD against Räikkönen's 4WD.
But Lindroos is estonian, not finn, am I right? What about Ketomaki and Puhakka? Are they good? (I understood Nykara isn´t as fast as I thought) :p : Many Thnx Hartusvuori :)

[bluuford]

But Lindroos is estonian, not finn, am I right? What about Ketomaki and Puhakka? Are they good? (I understood Nykara isn´t as fast as I thought) :p : Many Thnx Hartusvuori :)

No, he is finn :-)

[morganmilan]

No, he is finn :-)
Sorry, so my mistake ;)

[Tomi]

My ranking would be, Ketomaa, Salo, Hänninen, Ketomäki, Nikara, Katajamäki about same as Tuohino, Välimäki.
Puhakka I rate over all theese drivers. Lindroos will put the list in new shape hopefully.

[cali]

My ranking would be, Ketomaa, Salo, Hänninen, Ketomäki, Nikara, Katajamäki about same as Tuohino, Välimäki.
Puhakka I rate over all theese drivers. Lindroos will put the list in new shape hopefully.

Puhakka was very fast before he had some mess with AKK. He drove some 2 seasons ago in Estonia and was not so fast anymore, losing to all top locals in GrN.

[Tomi]

Puhakka was very fast before he had some mess with AKK. He drove some 2 seasons ago in Estonia and was not so fast anymore, losing to all top locals in GrN.

Puhakka has not been driving seriously since many years back, but how he did then is above all those others, now he would not get on my list.
I tought the guy who asked knew he has not been driving for years.

[cali]

Puhakka has not been driving seriously since many years back, but how he did then is above all those others, now he would not get on my list.
I tought the guy who asked knew he has not been driving for years.

Yes, yes, very true. That was my point as well that break from driving has been too long and he has lost the huge speed shown in his prime. Legend in GrN to me.

[Tomi]

Yes, yes, very true. That was my point as well that this break has been to long and he has lost the huge speed shown in his prime. Legend in GrN to me.

Same to me, the fastest ever GrN driver.

[morganmilan]

Thnx you both Tomi and Cali :) . Very useful information

[Simmi]

In terms of ability how high do you Finn's rank Matti Rantanen? In comparison to Ketomaa?

[Tomi]

In terms of ability how high do you Finn's rank Matti Rantanen? In comparison to Ketomaa?

somewhere between 6-9, its really difficult to say, here is a few guys that are clearly better drivers, the rest is kind of a mass, but ok driver he too.

[Simmi]

somewhere between 6-9, its really difficult to say, here is a few guys that are clearly better drivers, the rest is kind of a mass, but ok driver he too.

That's interesting to know. Thanks Tomi.

[Tomi]

That's interesting to know. Thanks Tomi.

No problem, but this is no absoulute truth, only one persons opinion, people value also different things in drivers, for me it is, the guy has to be fast and secondly he has to have a feel about cars, we here call it "perstuntuma" and understand about cars adapt quicly to a car, and make the car good to drive too.

[noel157]

No problem, but this is no absoulute truth, only one persons opinion, people value also different things in drivers, for me it is, the guy has to be fast and secondly he has to have a feel about cars, we here call it "perstuntuma" and understand about cars adapt quicly to a car, and make the car good to drive too.

"perstuntuma" = canny or handy.

[cali]

"perstuntuma" = canny or handy.

Directly translated - "assfeel" :D

[Simmi]

Directly translated - "assfeel" :D

So we would say driving by the seat of his pants.

[Hartusvuori]

Directly translated - "assfeel" :D

If I make "I Drive By The Assfeel" t-shirts, who would buy? :D

[cali]

If I make "I Drive By The Assfeel" t-shirts, who would buy? :D
Ofcourse :D , but don't charge too much :p

[cali]

If I make "I Drive By The Assfeel" t-shirts, who would buy? :D

:D Makes me think

[Mauri A]

So we would say driving by the seat of his pants.
That reminds me of a certain Leo Kinnunen. He wasn´t very good in telling in words what´s wrong, but he was called "Leo, the golden ass"

[Tomi]

"the golden ass" would be a good James Bond movie title.

[rp]

Still couple of hours left when entries are closed. Some interesting names during the last day... Jarkko Nikara (in his own Evo 9), Kalle Pinomäki (Clio R3), Mika Salo (Fiesta R2) and Rami Räikkönen (Kimi´s brother behind the wheel of the Abarth Grande Punto S2000, rumours said that Kimi gave his Fiat to his brother and it seems to be true. The car is fully prepared after Kimi´s Rally Finland accident by Tommi Mäkinen Racing)

And maybe the most surprising Ari Mökkönen (Impreza WRX STi)! He makes come back to rallying after 14 years. Unbelievable fast driver, but too many accidents ended his career (last rallies during the years 1995 and 1996 with Nissan F2 and Escort Cosworth). He was supported by Timo Jouhki and I think that Mökkönen is the only driver who was not able to reach the top with the help of this Finnish top rally manager. Great to see him back, but of course he is now just enjoying or who knows...

[Leon]

And maybe the most surprising Ari Mökkönen (Impreza WRX STi)! He makes come back to rallying after 14 years. Unbelievable fast driver, but too many accidents ended his career (last rallies during the years 1995 and 1996 with Nissan F2 and Escort Cosworth). He was supported by Timo Jouhki and I think that Mökkönen is the only driver who was not able to reach the top with the help of this Finnish top rally manager. Great to see him back, but of course he is now just enjoying or who knows...

I remember him very well from the british rally championship and his participation in the 1996 acropolis rally. I will follow his progress closely. thanks for the info.

[Rallyper]

Still couple of hours left when entries are closed. Some interesting names during the last day... Jarkko Nikara (in his own Evo 9), Kalle Pinomäki (Clio R3), Mika Salo (Fiesta R2) and Rami Räikkönen (Kimi´s brother behind the wheel of the Abarth Grande Punto S2000, rumours said that Kimi gave his Fiat to his brother and it seems to be true. The car is fully prepared after Kimi´s Rally Finland accident by Tommi Mäkinen Racing)

And maybe the most surprising Ari Mökkönen (Impreza WRX STi)! He makes come back to rallying after 14 years. Unbelievable fast driver, but too many accidents ended his career (last rallies during the years 1995 and 1996 with Nissan F2 and Escort Cosworth). He was supported by Timo Jouhki and I think that Mökkönen is the only driver who was not able to reach the top with the help of this Finnish top rally manager. Great to see him back, but of course he is now just enjoying or who knows...

Maybe when the pressure is off an he´s just enjoying the driving the speed and concistency will be there for him... :)

[Huima]

According to Autohebdo Mikko Hirvonen will join the Arctic rally with his Mk2 Escort


http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=pl&ie=UTF-8&sl=fr&tl=en&u=http://www.autohebdo.fr/rallye/wrc/breve-26-1-4941/200110-mikko-hirvonen-aussi-a-l-arctic&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.pl&usg=ALkJrhgEsRKIXBDjnsZ9kf0e9zx-gALuMw

[Sami]

And maybe the most surprising Ari Mökkönen (Impreza WRX STi)! He makes come back to rallying after 14 years. Unbelievable fast driver, but too many accidents ended his career (last rallies during the years 1995 and 1996 with Nissan F2 and Escort Cosworth). He was supported by Timo Jouhki and I think that Mökkönen is the only driver who was not able to reach the top with the help of this Finnish top rally manager. Great to see him back, but of course he is now just enjoying or who knows...

WOW!

I remember him very well when he was fighting for Junior Championship title in alte 1980´s (was it?) against certain Marcus Grönholm.

Amazingly he could beat Marcus in winter events even though he was driving a 1300cc Escort mk1 against Bosse´s Ascona B!

I've always considered Ari as a supernatural talent, would have hoped they had as much patience with him that they have now with Latvala...

[rp]

WOW!

I remember him very well when he was fighting for Junior Championship title in alte 1980´s (was it?) against certain Marcus Grönholm.

Amazingly he could beat Marcus in winter events even though he was driving a 1300cc Escort mk1 against Bosse´s Ascona B!

I've always considered Ari as a supernatural talent, would have hoped they had as much patience with him that they have now with Latvala...

I remember that also. It was amazing preformance and I still have the video review of that Finnish Junior Championship 1988 season. Pure fun of 120 minutes...! Those were the days...

[dimviii]

I remember that also. It was amazing preformance and I still have the video review of that Finnish Junior Championship 1988 season. Pure fun of 120 minutes...! Those were the days...

Any video with Ari driving?

[rp]

Any video with Ari driving?

No in the digital format. It was from this producer www.gtv.fi (http://www.gtv.fi), but I doubt they have this material anymore and it was old VHS-video tape...

[Tomi]

WOW!

I remember him very well when he was fighting for Junior Championship title in alte 1980´s (was it?) against certain Marcus Grönholm.

There was then a few guys that could challenge Bosse or was at that point even better than he, but they faded later, because of different reasons, but top drivers like Bosse would never come if the competition early already would not be so tough as it is.

[Tomi]

Mauri A, do you know if your local radio (YLE Pohjois-Suomi) will be following the rally, or doing any reports?

[ProRally]

How is the weather forecast in Arctic Rally....

Nice and cold for Fleur and Brian I guess...

[Tomi]

How is the weather forecast in Arctic Rally....

Nice and cold for Fleur and Brian I guess...

-15 to -20, might come a little snow, not too bad.

[miksu]

here's a link where you can check the weather

http://www.fmi.fi/saa/paikalli.html?place=Rovaniemi

[ProRally]

here's a link where you can check the weather

http://www.fmi.fi/saa/paikalli.html?place=Rovaniemi

kiitos

[Iskald]

Good thread this one, but for some time I have wanted to ask what a thread about a local rally in Finland does in the World Rally Championship category?

[Tomi]

Good thread this one, but for some time I have wanted to ask what a thread about a local rally in Finland does in the World Rally Championship category?

been wondering the same too, maybe some mod can move it.

[DonJippo]

-15 to -20, might come a little snow, not too bad.

15cm new snow coming down on Wednesday/Thursday.

[Tomi]

15cm new snow coming down on Wednesday/Thursday.

yes but, they plow for sure, if not kimi will beat sordo, lol

[DonJippo]

yes but, they plow for sure, if not kimi will beat sordo, lol

For the sake of drivers and their pace notes let's hope the guy who drives plow is not too drunk ... :p :

[Boudica]

Here is webcam of Lordi square:

http://www.rovaniemi.fi/layouts/rovaniemi/includes/360/lordi-aukio.asp?sek=10

[Mauri A]

Good thread this one, but for some time I have wanted to ask what a thread about a local rally in Finland does in the World Rally Championship category?
My fault, I started it. Apologies, I sincerely hope that nobody got serious traumas of this thread!

[bluuford]

I think it fits here well:-) There are many regular WRC drivers and it is nice to see how they are doing in pre-season rally!

[Iskald]

I think it fits here well:-) There are many regular WRC drivers and it is nice to see how they are doing in pre-season rally!

I knew that argument would come. Last saturdays Mountain Rally Norway, 2nd round in the norwegian championship, had these guys competing: Henning Solberg, Mads Østberg, Eivind Brynildsen and Andreas Mikkelsen. They will all be regulars in WRC-events this season. A further three drivers, who are on the entry list for Rally Sweden, also took part. But still we are not making a thread about norwegian rallying in the World Rally Championship category on this forum. ;)

[Koppomsbo]

Here is webcam of Lordi square:

http://www.rovaniemi.fi/layouts/rovaniemi/includes/360/lordi-aukio.asp?sek=10


Lordi square??

As in Hard Rock Haleluja? :D

[Viking]

But still we are not making a thread about norwegian rallying in the World Rally Championship category on this forum. ;)

Well what the hey! :) I see Henning Solberg`s name on the entry list for Hokksundrally, lets make a thread here :D

[Tomi]

Well what the hey! :) I see Henning Solberg`s name on the entry list for Hokksundrally, lets make a thread here :D

please dont start this again, not so long ago this forum was spammed with rallies where somebody who had seen a wrc car did enter.

[Mauri A]

I knew that argument would come. Last saturdays Mountain Rally Norway, 2nd round in the norwegian championship, had these guys competing: Henning Solberg, Mads Østberg, Eivind Brynildsen and Andreas Mikkelsen. They will all be regulars in WRC-events this season. A further three drivers, who are on the entry list for Rally Sweden, also took part. But still we are not making a thread about norwegian rallying in the World Rally Championship category on this forum. ;)
I´m really happy about that!

[Viking]

please dont start this again, not so long ago this forum was spammed with rallies where somebody who had seen a wrc car did enter.

Dont you go underestimate Rally Hokksund :D

Only joking, National european rallyes belongs in the "european" forum!

[Iskald]

Only joking, National european rallyes belongs in the "european" forum!

Exactly!

[Huima]

Lordi square??

As in Hard Rock Haleluja? :D


You got it :D

[Motorsportfun]

Lordi square??

As in Hard Rock Haleluja? :D

:D lol

they became famous here in Italy too, although there is no Eurovision!

[bluuford]

I knew that argument would come. Last saturdays Mountain Rally Norway, 2nd round in the norwegian championship, had these guys competing: Henning Solberg, Mads Østberg, Eivind Brynildsen and Andreas Mikkelsen. They will all be regulars in WRC-events this season. A further three drivers, who are on the entry list for Rally Sweden, also took part. But still we are not making a thread about norwegian rallying in the World Rally Championship category on this forum. ;)

Yeah, that means you are bit shy :-) I would have loved to read about the Mountain rally here instead of searching it from subsections :-)

[bluuford]

Well, the cold Air from Estonia is moving back to the north and on Friday morning -22 degrees is expected near Rovaniemi (We had -33 degrees today in the morning). Last weekend we had South-Estonian Winter rally and at the startline the temperature was approximately -30 degrees, but it didn't cause any problem to the cars (It was only funny to watch that no-one was around the car in service but all the engines were turned on :-)).

[pavlos_a]

Is there a live stage times page? Any shakedown times?

[COD]

Try http://www.arcticrally.fi

[Tomi]

the shakedown is from 14.00-20.00 local time, and it is voluntary, im not sure there will be any times, but you can check later from http://www.arcticrally.fi if there is something.

[Tomi]

If someone is interested, here is the link to download the official Arctic Rally program, http://www.arcticrally.fi/pdf/rallilehti_2010_low_b.pdf

There will be also a rallyradio (propably only in finnish), the brodcasting times you can find in the program on page 18.

Links to the radio, http://areena.yle.fi/player/index.php?channel=90&language=fi

Or this other one, http://areena.yle.fi/player/index.php?channel=91&language=fi

[Boudica]

Lordi square??

As in Hard Rock Haleluja? :D

Lol yes! :D


They are currently setting up the stage in the square.

[Boudica]

Some pics from the shakedown:

http://reissumies.kuvat.fi/kuvat/ralli/2010/Arcticrally2010/Shakedown/

[RICARDO75]

Link for online times?

[FF-fan]

Any rallysites of Finland to follow the rally's there?

[rdr]

Official FRC result site
From this page you can follow results from FRC events. Choose below the rally you wish to follow. Then you may choose class and stage.

http://tulossivu.autourheilu.fi/

[Boudica]

Here is a short video of Sordo and Kimi:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nxdwJuXL94

[Boudica]

Some part of the rally might be shown live here:

http://www.cricketsfilm.com/eng/

[MartijnS]

Here is a short video of Sordo and Kimi:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nxdwJuXL94

Thats some seriously spectacular video! :D

[bluuford]

It is near to -26 on the stages right now and temperature dropping :-)

[Boudica]

Kimi suprises: snow doesn't fit the Iceman!
29.01.2010 08:01

Kimi Räikkönen doesn't enjoy the wintry conditions at least not behind a rally car.

- I have driven the most in snow with a rally car but in my opinion snow is the most difficult surface. There you have to be pretty accurately on the clean driving lane because otherwise there will be a lot of action. On snow it is the most difficult to do notes and keep the car on the road, Räikkönen admits to MTV3.

In Arctic-rally, which is driven in Rovaniemi's snowy roads on Friday and Thursday, Räikkönen's WRC-car has wider tires than the N-group's drivers', which makes Räikkönen's job difficult since the WRC-tires won't fit the narrow lanes properly at the special stage that is driven for the second time.

The WRC-series start at the middle of February at Sweden's snow but Räikkönen is waiting to get to other surfaces already.

- I have driven one rally on sand and I've tested there somewhat. On tarmac and sand you can search for driving lanes a little bit. Tarmac is certainly natural for me. There you can read [the road] with your eyes more.

In WRC the tarmac-rallies are placed on the second half of the season.

- Fortunately there is a couple of races driven before the tarmac-rallies come. If we would have learnt something before that, Kimi says.

MTV3 – Jani Merimaa ja Anette Latva-Piikkilä, Rovaniemi

(Translation thanks to Leijona)

[Boudica]

"Räikkönen's win would be something unbelievable"
Julkaistu 29.01.2010 08:16

Kimi Räikkönen's team-mate in Citroen, Daniel Sordo, doesn't believe that Räikkönen will reach wins in this years WRC-series.

- If Kimi wins this year a race in WRC-rally, it will be something unbelievable. Maybe he can reach the top 6 rank, Sordo says to MTV3.

On Friday and Saturday in Finnish Championship rally Räikkönen has instead a full possibility even for a win because only Sordo is driving a fresh WRC-car in Rovaniemi in addition to Raikkonen.

- If Kimi wins here, then he wins. It would be a good start for him. I will however try to win this rally. He has a good chance because he has experience from last year and the rally is driven on snow, Sordo says.

Sordo doesn't yet know Räikkönen's strenghts.

- Kimi is a new acquaintance for me. I don't know where he is as his fastest. Maybe he will do really well also with a WRC-car but he might have problems with the notes. As long as he gets some experience from them, he is of course really fast.

MTV3 – Jani Merimaa ja Anette Latva-Piikkilä, Rovaniemi

(Translation thank to Leijona)

[pantealex]

Online results:
http://www.tenab.net/online.htm

[Viking]

Cars at Lordi square :)

[miksu]

Kimi +5,5 secs to Sordo on the first stage

[Boudica]

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/4652/121ki.png (http://img39.imageshack.us/i/121ki.png/)

[Mauri A]

Kimi +5,5 secs to Sordo on the first stage
Not bad, 0,5 sec/km.

[garais22]

Can some explain
In the list of entries
101 Georg Gross Ford WRC
but in results third is Ott tanak (101 nummber)

[Tomi]

quite close in the front (Finnish Championsip), the stage was the same as in shakedown, but run in the opposite direction, a few drivers complained about rutts.
Skoda driver is waiting for slower roads.

[Viking]

Not bad, 0,5 sec/km.

Not bad at all, 0,5 sec/km after Sordo should have put him around Wilson times in Rally Norway (and I don`t mean that as a bad thing :) )
But time difference against top gr.N cars are too small...

[bluuford]

Can some explain
In the list of entries
101 Georg Gross Ford WRC
but in results third is Ott tanak (101 nummber)

It seems that just before the start they somehow decided to switch the drivers :-) I dont know why. Tänak also did do runs in Shakedown. It is his first ever start with WR Car

[Fly]

Good to see Markko Ipatti back as well!

[emk]

Sordo 1min penalty (too early in time control) and Kimi seems to have gone off on SS2.

[Tomi]

kimi off 5km from start, lol thats it

[miksu]

....And Kimi in the snowbank...

[MartijnS]

lol, thats quick.
Let's hope he drives more stages in Sweden.

[emk]

Let's hope he drives more stages in Sweden.

Or tomorrow.

[Raini]

But Kimi was surprizingly fast compared to Sordo....

[MartijnS]

Or tomorrow.

Ah, I forgot about super rally. Thanks :)

[Tomi]

Ah, I forgot about super rally. Thanks :)
not super rally, but 2 events

[modri dirkac]

Sordo with stupid penalty and Kimi out in the 2. SS? Not a good start for Citroen ... :D

[Woodeye]

any news if he will continue tomorrow?

[Tomi]

kimi is back in business again

[cali]

kimi is back in business again

OK, very good! Now we can see his speed, hopefully tha car has not been damaged too much.

The strangest thing is that Ott Tänak is driving instead of Georg Gross. This Focus belongs to Gross and initially has been stated that Ott is just there as a mechanic.

[Tomi]

OK, very good! Now we can see his speed, hopefully tha car has not been damaged too much.

The strangest thing is that Ott Tänak is driving instead of Georg Gross. This Focus belongs to Gross and initially has been stated that Ott is just there as a mechanic.

maybe some sudden illkness or something?

[pavlos_a]

kimi is back in business again

You mean that he is back on the rally??? In the results he is in the retirement list

[Tomi]

You mean that he is back on the rally??? In the results he is in the retirement list

Ahaa sorry, i tought he is back because they gave him a time.

[N.O.T]

lol....

[darkstar]

maybe he got out of this snowbank and can go on now...but out of score?

[emk]

maybe he got out of this snowbank and can go on now...but out of score?

Yes, he got out from the bank and the list of retirements went blank in online-results so maybe they're trying to get him back to race.

EDIT: List came back with Räikkönen still on it. Well if he cant continue at least the car is driveable for tomorrow?

[Tomi]

bad luck to go out where is a very few spectators, if there is people its only about 1-2 mins and the car is back on the road.

[cali]

maybe some sudden illkness or something?

No information available in Estonia. Mystery at the moment :)

[Mauri A]

Yes, he got out from the bank and the list of retirements went blank in online-results so maybe they're trying to get him back to race.

EDIT: List came back with Räikkönen still on it. Well if he cant continue at least the car is driveable for tomorrow?
Kaj Lindström: Now to service and we´ll continue tomorrow.

[Raini]

Was there any regulation, that only these WRC-cars can compete, if they taking part of World Rally Championship?

[306 Cosworth]

I heard George Gross was replaced because he broke his arms?

[emk]

Was there any regulation, that only these WRC-cars can compete, if they taking part of World Rally Championship?

No, the ones driving world rally championship got their own class with good starting numbers as other wrc-drivers have a starting position of 60+ (After the drivers of Finnish rally championship)

[MartijnS]

According to pitstop.tv they hit a tree and they can't drive anymore. But thats not true?

[Raini]

No, the ones driving world rally championship got their own class with good starting numbers as other wrc-drivers have a starting position of 60+ (After the drivers of Finnish rally championship)

thank you...
Anyway, it's good to hear that estonian champ. is leading...and it is his WRC debut as well...
But Sordo will probably catch him very quickly...

[bluuford]

thank you...
Anyway, it's good to hear that estonian champ. is leading...and it is his WRC debut as well...
But Sordo will probably catch him very quickly...

Yeah, pretty good for just a "mechanic" who has seen the stages a little :-)

[Julle69]

Kimi has total time after ss2 and is 30 minutes behind leader so he can continue if car is OK. There is different info in finnish media at the moment, others say he will continue tomorrow and others say he will continue today as scheduled. Next stage will start at 16:02 then we see...

[Julle69]

Here is few pics of kIMI'S damaged car:

http://img.mtv3.fi/mn_kuvat/mtv3/urheilu/sekalaiset/2010/873987.jpg

[Raini]

No, the ones driving world rally championship got their own class with good starting numbers as other wrc-drivers have a starting position of 60+ (After the drivers of Finnish rally championship)


Kimi has total time after ss2 and is 30 minutes behind leader so he can continue if car is OK. There is different info in finnish media at the moment, others say he will continue tomorrow and others say he will continue today as scheduled. Next stage will start at 16:02 then we see...

I hope he will start today...

[Julle69]

And other:

http://img.mtv3.fi/mn_kuvat/mtv3/urheilu/sekalaiset/2010/873991.jpg

[Mauri A]

Kimi has total time after ss2 and is 30 minutes behind leader so he can continue if car is OK. There is different info in finnish media at the moment, others say he will continue tomorrow and others say he will continue today as scheduled. Next stage will start at 16:02 then we see...
I´d think tomorrow.
Finnish radio just told that Kimi´s car left the service park with hurry, and his name is not on the retirement list anymore.

[bluuford]

There is sooo cold.. who needs that radiator anyway :-)

[Mauri A]

There is sooo cold.. who needs that radiator anyway :-)
Cold? Only -15 C according my thermometer.

[bluuford]

It seems he is going to continue. he has got 90 s penalty and he is deleted from the retirements list.

[cali]

It seems he is going to continue. he has got 90 s penalty and he is deleted from the retirements list.

MTV3's latest news are telling the same - Kimi will continue today.

[Daniel]

It seems he is going to continue. he has got 90 s penalty and he is deleted from the retirements list.
w00t :)

[Raini]

Tänak loses time, why?

[darkstar]

there´s raikkönens time! 12 sec slower then sordo. i think its realye not bad!

[Raini]

there´s raikkönens time! 12 sec slower then sordo. i think its realye not bad!

Not at all...

[vkangas]

Best Group N drivers are really close, Sordo must be taking it really easy...

[White Sauron]

A funny thing: visually Loeb's car had similar damages when Reutenbach crashed into him two years ago. But this time Raikkonen was lucky to continue. Or probably Citroen changed positions of pipes or whatever after that absurd accident?

[miksu]

Best Group N drivers are really close, Sordo must be taking it really easy...

or finnish N-drivers are pretty fast in a familiar rally on familiar surface.

[pettersolberg29]

Kimi may be close-ish to Sordo, but remember he's also crashed already and is closer to Group N cars. Suggests either Sordo is finding it hard or Group N are finding it easy! This debut performance by Kimi doesn't really tell us anything so far.

[Boudica]

Seems like something has again happened with Kimi.

[darkstar]

Seems like something has again happened with Kimi.

why? does anyone know whats happening with the times?

[FF-fan]

Video of Kimi Raikkonen:

http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/ralli/uutiset.shtml/arkistot/ralli/2010/01/1044919

[Boudica]

why? does anyone know whats happening with the times?

They said something on the rally radio, but there is something going on because no one is currently coming in. :(

[pettersolberg29]

In my infinite wisdom, that looks like a pacenote error to me. Too fast around that corner and simply slides off.. He'll get there with experience I'm sure.

[vkangas]

In my infinite wisdom, that looks like a pacenote error to me. Too fast around that corner and simply slides off.. He'll get there with experience I'm sure.

Kimi said he had heard the corner speed wrong. Kaitsu said 3 but Kimi heard it was 5 ....you know the rest.

[Rallyper]

Yeah, just run out of the track because of little too fast speed or bad timing in the stering, because it looked very fast before that corner. :(

[pettersolberg29]

Blimey, my 'infinite wisdom' finally paid off and came true after years of pretending I knew what I was talking about! ;)

[miksu]

They said something on the rally radio, but there is something going on because no one is currently coming in. :(

Problems in the timing service.

[Boudica]

Apparently there is some problems with the live timing.

[Boudica]

Problems in the timing service.

Thanks :)

[306 Cosworth]

Historics timing from SS3 is working though :s

[Xsara Fan]

Poor car... Citroen C4 WRC with chassis number B510.

2009:

http://www.almrally.ru/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=11144

2010:

http://img.mtv3.fi/mn_kuvat/mtv3/urheilu/sekalaiset/2010/874012.jpg

The same car, the same problems...

[Boudica]

Yes live timing is working again.

[Langdale Forest]

Who was driving that Citroen?

[Daniel]

Poor car... Citroen C4 WRC with chassis number B510.

2009:

http://www.almrally.ru/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=11144

2010:

http://img.mtv3.fi/mn_kuvat/mtv3/urheilu/sekalaiset/2010/874012.jpg

The same car, the same problems...
Meh, cosmetic damage really for a WRCar

[Daniel]

Who was driving that Citroen?


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