I Got Mail Again Ring in TIREs

[Roamy]

I come to America with a mission. All is not well in the old world. There is a tremendous danger looming, and it is very difficult to be optimistic. We might be in the final stages of the Islamization of Europe. This not only is a clear and present danger to the future of Europe itself, it is a threat to America and the sheer survival of the West. The United States as the last bastion of Western civilization, facing an Islamic Europe.

First I will describe the situation on the ground in Europe. Then, I will say a few things about Islam. To close I will tell you about a meeting in Jerusalem.

The Europe you know is changing.

You have probably seen the landmarks. But in all of these cities, sometimes a few blocks away from your tourist destination, there is another world. It is the world of the parallel society created by�Muslim mass-migration.

All throughout Europe a new reality is rising: entire Muslim neighborhoods where very few indigenous people reside or are even seen. And if they are, they might regret it. This goes for the police as well. It's the world of head scarves, where women walk around in figureless tents, with baby strollers and a group of children. Their husbands, or slaveholders if you prefer, walk three steps ahead. With mosques on many street corners. The shops have signs you and I cannot read. You will be hard-pressed to find any economic activity. These are Muslim ghettos controlled by religious fanatics. These are Muslim neighborhoods, and they are mushrooming in every city across Europe. These are the building-blocks for territorial control of increasingly larger portions of Europe, street by street, neighborhood by neighborhood, city by city.

There are now thousands of mosques throughout Europe. With larger congregations than there are in churches. And in every European city there are plans to build super-mosques that will dwarf every church in the region. Clearly, the signal is: we rule.

Many European cities are already one-quarter Muslim: just take Amsterdam, Marseille and Malmo in Sweden. In many cities the majority of the under-18 population is Muslim. Paris is now surrounded by a ring of Muslim neighborhoods. Mohammed is the most popular name among boys in many cities.

In some elementary schools in Amsterdam the farm can no longer be mentioned, because that would also mean mentioning the pig, and that would be an insult to Muslims.

Many state schools in Belgium and Denmark only serve halal food to all pupils. In once-tolerant Amsterdam gays are beaten up almost exclusively by Muslims. Non-Muslim women routinely hear 'whore, whore'. Satellite dishes are not pointed to local TV stations, but to stations in the country of origin.

In France school teachers are advised to avoid authors deemed offensive to Muslims, including Voltaire and Diderot; the same is increasingly true of Darwin. The history of the Holocaust can no longer be taught because of Muslim sensitivity.

In England Sharia courts are now officially part of the British legal system. Many neighborhoods in France are no-go areas for women without head scarves. Last week a man almost died after being beaten up by Muslims in Brussels, because he was drinking during the Ramadan.

Jews are fleeing France in record numbers, on the run for the worst wave of anti-Semitism since World War II. French is now commonly spoken on the streets of Tel Aviv and Netanya, Israel. I could go on forever with stories like this. Stories about Islamization.

A total of fifty-four million Muslims now live in Europe. San Diego University recently calculated that a staggering 25 percent of the population in Europe will be Muslim just 12 years from now. Bernhard Lewis has predicted a Muslim majority by the end of this century.

Now these are just numbers. And the numbers would not be threatening if the Muslim-immigrants had a strong desire to assimilate. But there are few signs of that. The Pew Research Center reported that half of French Muslims see their loyalty to Islam as greater than their loyalty to France. One-third of French Muslims do not object to suicide attacks. The British Centre for Social Cohesion reported that one-third of British Muslim students are in favor of a worldwide caliphate. Muslims demand what they call 'respect'. And this is how we give them respect. We have Muslim official state holidays.


The Christian-Democratic attorney general is willing to accept Sharia in the Netherlands if there is a Muslim majority. We have cabinet members with passports from Morocco and Turkey.


Muslim demands are supported by unlawful behavior, ranging from petty crimes and random violence, for example against ambulance workers and bus drivers, to small-scale riots. Paris has seen its uprising in the low-income suburbs, the banlieus. I call the perpetrators 'settlers'. Because that is what they are. They do not come to integrate into our societies, they come to integrate our society into their Dar-al-Islam. Therefore, they are settlers.

Much of this street violence I mentioned is directed exclusively against non-Muslims, forcing many native people to leave their neighborhoods, their cities, their countries. Moreover, Muslims are now a swing vote not to be ignored. I

The second thing you need to know is the importance of Mohammed the prophet. His behavior is an example to all Muslims and cannot be criticized. Now, if Mohammed had been a man of peace, let us say like Ghandi and Mother Theresa wrapped in one, there would be no problem. But Mohammed was a warlord, a mass murderer, a pedophile, and had several marriages - at the same time. Islamic tradition tells us how he fought in battles, how he had his enemies murdered and even had prisoners of war executed. Mohammed himself slaughtered the Jewish tribe of Banu Qurayza. If it is good for Islam, it is good. If it is bad for Islam, it is bad.

Let no one fool you about Islam being a religion. Sure, it has a god, and a here-after, and 72 virgins. But in its essence Islam is a political ideology. It is a system that lays down detailed rules for society and the life of every person. Islam wants to dictate every aspect of life. Islam means 'submission'. Islam is not compatible with freedom and democracy, because what it strives for is Sharia. If you want to compare Islam to anything, compare it to communism or national-socialism, these are all totalitarian ideologies.

Now you know why Winston Churchill called Islam 'the most retrograde force in the world', and why he compared Mein Kampf to the Quran. The public has wholeheartedly accepted the Palestinian narrative, and sees Israel as the aggressor. I have lived in this country and visited it dozens of times. I support Israel. First, because it is the Jewish homeland after two thousand years of exile up to and including Auschwitz, second because it is a democracy, and third because Israel is our first line of defense.

This tiny country is situated on the fault line of jihad, frustrating Islam's territorial advance. Israel is facing the front lines of jihad, like Kashmir, Kosovo, the Philippines, Southern Thailand, Darfur in Sudan, Lebanon, and Aceh in Indonesia. Israel is simply in the way. The same way West-Berlin was during the Cold War.

The war against Israel is not a war against Israel. It is a war against the West. It is jihad. Israel is simply receiving the blows that are meant for all of us. If there would have been no Israel, Islamic imperialism would have found other venues to release its energy and its desire for conquest. Thanks to Israeli parents who send their children to the army and lay awake at night, parents in Europe and America can sleep well and dream, unaware of the dangers looming.

Many in Europe argue in favor of abandoning Israel in order to address the grievances of our Muslim minorities. But if Israel were, God forbid, to go down, it would not bring any solace to the West It would not mean our Muslim minorities would all of a sudden change their behavior, and accept our values. On the contrary, the end of Israel would give enormous encouragement to the forces of Islam. They would, and rightly so, see the demise of Israel as proof that the West is weak, and doomed. The end of Israel would not mean the end of our problems with Islam, but only the beginning. It would mean the start of the final battle for world domination. If they can get Israel, they can get everything. So-called journalists volunteer to label any and all critics of Islamization as a 'right-wing extremists' or 'racists'. In my country, the Netherlands, 60 percent of the population now sees the mass immigration of Muslims as the number one policy mistake since World War II. And another 60 percent sees Islam as the biggest threat. Yet there is a danger greater danger than terrorist attacks, the scenario of America as the last man standing. The lights may go out in Europe faster than you can imagine. An Islamic Europe means a Europe without freedom and democracy, an economic wasteland, an intellectual nightmare, and a loss of military might for America - as its allies will turn into enemies, enemies with atomic bombs. With an Islamic Europe, it would be up to America alone to preserve the heritage of Rome, Athens and Jerusalem.

Dear friends, liberty is the most precious of gifts. My generation never had to fight for this freedom, it was offered to us on a silver platter, by people who fought for it with their lives. All throughout Europe American cemeteries remind us of the young boys who never made it home, and whose memory we cherish. My generation does not own this freedom; we are merely its custodians. We can only hand over this hard won liberty to Europe's children in the same state in which it was offered to us. We cannot strike a deal with mullahs and imams. Future generations would never forgive us. We cannot squander our liberties. We simply do not have the right to do so.

[gloomyDAY]

Look, I don't care much for religious ideologies, but I can relate to some people's frustration. There is a student club here at UC Irvine by the name of Muslim Student Union. They are downright diabolical. Hanging blood-splattered Israeli flags in the quad, chanting anti-American slogans, and hiring spokespersons with deep rooted antisemitism against Jews to shout vitriol in front of the library.

Should I take my gun outside and shoot every Muslim in sight? No. I smile. I smile because every single individual standing there is a complete fool and hypocrite. They are fools because the very America that they claim is awful and hateful allows them to be surrounded by trained police officers in broad daylight so nothing detrimental can happen to them. MSU members are also hypocrites because they don't tend to follow the Koran with any loyalty, as aptly demonstrated by leaked photos. I've seen plenty of their scarfed little sluts drunk as skunks and crawling around looking for some playtime.

The FBI has been on our campus a few times and know MSU's actions very well. If they decide to turn militant it will be a big mistake on their part. Also, if they decide to take over a neighborhood around here, well, good luck!

[harsha]

the continuous mis-interpretation of Islam is one of the major problems that everyone faces esp w.r.t.it's direct consequence...Jihad and Terrorism..

you people have just got to know about Terrorist attacks by radical Muslim elements....And then you have governments in the US giving Aid to Pakistan...Aid which is going to 1)either go into the Asif Ali Zardari's pocket 2)going to be used against India...

Sooner or later there's going to be a Pakistan sponsored Terrorist attack in India again and then we'll see all the crocodile tears and the "the President is saddened by the attacks and we wish to reiterate that our sympathies lie with the people of India and further we stand with the government of India that Terrorism doesn't have any place in the world"

When are we going to see anything other than Lip-Service :?:

[GridGirl]

I got bored after paragraph five. Can someone give me a presis before I say the thread is a load of rubbish with some conviction.

[Roamy]

the continuous mis-interpretation of Islam is one of the major problems that everyone faces esp w.r.t.it's direct consequence...Jihad and Terrorism..

you people have just got to know about Terrorist attacks by radical Muslim elements....And then you have governments in the US giving Aid to Pakistan...Aid which is going to 1)either go into the Asif Ali Zardari's pocket 2)going to be used against India...

Sooner or later there's going to be a Pakistan sponsored Terrorist attack in India again and then we'll see all the crocodile tears and the "the President is saddened by the attacks and we wish to reiterate that our sympathies lie with the people of India and further we stand with the government of India that Terrorism doesn't have any place in the world"

When are we going to see anything other than Lip-Service :?:

Well I think Clinton was calling bullsh!t on them today. check foxnews.
I think we are just stroking the camel to avoid the islams taking over the nukes. But in the long run we won't be able to so, probably you Indians should go up there and take care of business. Or maybe we send GridGirl as the go between.

[Dave B]

I got bored after paragraph five. Can someone give me a presis before I say the thread is a load of rubbish with some conviction.
It started off as inaccurate tosh and went downhill from there, same as usual.

Scaremongering to justify racism based on falsehoods and myths. The Daily Mail would probably love it.

[Rudy Tamasz]

When are we going to see anything other than Lip-Service :?:

I guess you've already had that Pakistani sponsored attack on you. Why wait and not just invade and smash Pakistan? You have military superiority over them. In this world of increasingly unilateral politics nobody will even bother to condemn you. Maybe a couple fo Muslim countries will sponsor a resolution in UN but who care about what UN says?

[Storm]

Rudy its not that simple..we have the dragon to think of too (and who is Pak's ally) .
As beautiful as our home is, we live in a dodgy neighbourhood, so to speak :p :

[ArrowsFA1]

fousto, was that all your own work, or is there a link so we can see the source?

[Rudy Tamasz]

Rudy its not that simple..we have the dragon to think of too (and who is Pak's ally) .
As beautiful as our home is, we live in a dodgy neighbourhood, so to speak :p :

That's true. The Dragon with its hegemonistic aspirations is the biggest single threat to the world security, not Al Quaeda or Somalian pirates. It won't be too long before it lays his claims on many things. We used to have the Bear to keep the Dragon at bay, but now the Bear is weak and drunk most of the time. :/

[Roamy]

fousto, was that all your own work, or is there a link so we can see the source?

no i read it and copied it
i will look

[Jag_Warrior]

I tell ya one dang thing: we didn't have all these problems when the Romans were running the show! It's been nothing but downhill since Hadrian's boys left town. I told you guys this would happen! :p :

[GridGirl]

Your showing your age there Jag. ;)

[gloomyDAY]

I tell ya one dang thing: we didn't have all these problems when the Romans were running the show! It's been nothing but downhill since Hadrian's boys left town. I told you guys this would happen! :p :Excellent! lol

Caligula wouldn't put up with any of this crap.

[Roamy]

Yea and now you are trying to trash the great leader Silvio Berlusconi.

WTF does this server belong to Al-Qaeda :p
Does Grid Girl wear F___ me pumps with that Burka? :p

[Easy Drifter]

Sometimes fousto makes sense. I just can't recall when. :confused:

[gloomyDAY]

Does Grid Girl wear F___ me pumps with that Burka? :p LOL!

We need pics for verification.

[harvick#1]

Caligula wouldn't put up with any of this crap.

and T-Rex decided who he wanted to eat and took no from no Dinosaur XD

[GridGirl]

Yea and now you are trying to trash the great leader Silvio Berlusconi.

WTF does this server belong to Al-Qaeda :p
Does Grid Girl wear F___ me pumps with that Burka? :p

I don't wear a Burka but I still wouldn't give you a second glance Fousto!

[Roamy]

Oh Break my Heart

[Captain VXR]

Show me any evidence at all whatsoever of sharia law being part of official UK law. Also, plenty of cities in east 'Yurp' as the yanks say do not have many muslim inhabitants, so yet another inconsistancy/lie/etc

Oh, and I think I've found a picture of Fousto:
http://cascadeclimbers.com/plab/data/503/deliverance.jpg

[Eki]

Show me any evidence at all whatsoever of sharia law being part of official UK law. Also, plenty of cities in east 'Yurp' as the yanks say do not have many muslim inhabitants, so yet another inconsistancy/lie/etc

Oh, and I think I've found a picture of Fousto:
http://cascadeclimbers.com/plab/data/503/deliverance.jpg

I just heard that Detroit has 600,000 Arabs. Maybe Fousto should look closer to home:

http://www.arabdetroit.com/arabamericans.php

[Roamy]

[quote="Captain VXR"]Show me any evidence at all whatsoever of sharia law being part of official UK law. Also, plenty of cities in east 'Yurp' as the yanks say do not have many muslim inhabitants, so yet another inconsistancy/lie/etc

Oh, and I think I've found a picture of Fousto

Yea VXR I was looking on facebook and found yours too!!
http://teststuff.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/assface.jpg

[Mark in Oshawa]

I just heard that Detroit has 600,000 Arabs. Maybe Fousto should look closer to home:

http://www.arabdetroit.com/arabamericans.php

Yes they do EKi. CBC went over there to find people against the Iraq war when it started thinking all those Arab's would be spitting mad. They gave up when they found most of them 100% Bush supporters. Last I heard, they didn't really change their opinion much. Most of the Arab's in Detroit left the Middle East to get away from that crap.....

[Eki]

Most of the Arab's in Detroit left the Middle East to get away from that crap.....
And you don't believe they come to Europe (or TIRE as Fousto likes to call it) for the exact same reasons?

[Eki]

CBC went over there to find people against the Iraq war when it started thinking all those Arab's would be spitting mad. They gave up when they found most of them 100% Bush supporters.
I guess exiles in general aren't the most patriotic or nationalistic people. The CBC should have gone to Fallujah.

[Mark in Oshawa]

And you don't believe they come to Europe (or TIRE as Fousto likes to call it) for the exact same reasons?

They may do that, but unlike Muslims in Europe or even Canada, in the US the ex pat Iraqi community was all for the ousting of Hussein. And that hasn''t changed....

As for those IN Iraq, well even if the Americans left tomorrow, they would be quite content to hold a nice uncivil Civil war. Any nation who has people more comfortable with planting massive car bombs and slaughtering anyone they don't like shouldn't be asked civilized questions. Luckily, I don't believe most Iraqi's are violent terrorists, but it is evident that the tribal attitudes driving the violence we see on the streets today is as much a problem in modern Iraq as the Americans ever could be at their most malicious.

[Mark in Oshawa]

I guess exiles in general aren't the most patriotic or nationalistic people. The CBC should have gone to Fallujah.

No Eki, the exiles are Americans. They wanted to make a better life where they could be left alone with a constitutional right to practice their religion without government interference or threats. Shiites in Iraq didn't have that luxury under Hussein.

[Eki]

No Eki, the exiles are Americans.
I wouldn't go that far. I just meant that the Iraqi exiles in the US most likely aren't as patriotic or nationalistic Iraqis as those who decided to stay in Iraq.

[Captain VXR]

Show me any evidence at all whatsoever of sharia law being part of official UK law. Also, plenty of cities in east 'Yurp' as the yanks say do not have many muslim inhabitants, so yet another inconsistancy/lie/etc

Oh, and I think I've found a picture of Fousto

Yea VXR I was looking on facebook and found yours too!!
http://teststuff.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/assface.jpg

Not quite hairy enough :p

[Eki]

I wouldn't go that far. I just meant that the Iraqi exiles in the US most likely aren't as patriotic or nationalistic Iraqis as those who decided to stay in Iraq.
At best I'd call them Benedict Arnolds or Quislings, not Americans.

[steve_spackman]

Even though Fousto can spew some real good dribble...

Some conservatives have already complained about schools dropping nativity plays to avoid upsetting Muslim children.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8340411.stm

[Captain VXR]

Even though Fousto can spew some real good dribble...

Some conservatives have already complained about schools dropping nativity plays to avoid upsetting Muslim children.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8340411.stm

There is no such thing as a religious child. Only a child of religious parents as he/she is not old/mature/clever enough to decide what to be a member of any religion,become agnostic or atheist therefore why would a child get upset by nativity plays anyway,seeing as it is a nice thing for them to do at Christmas whether or not the bible is true - people have to know why Christmas is celebrated.

[Eki]

Oh, and I think I've found a picture of Fousto:
http://cascadeclimbers.com/plab/data/503/deliverance.jpg
This is fousto (having fast food for a quick lunch):

http://justyouraveragejoggler.files.wordpress.com/2006/11/111806-road-runner.jpg

And this is anthonyvop:

http://www.cfhf.net/lyrics/images/wally.jpg

[GridGirl]

Even though Fousto can spew some real good dribble...

Some conservatives have already complained about schools dropping nativity plays to avoid upsetting Muslim children.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8340411.stm

I don't quite understand why schools would drop the nativity play so as not to offend Muslim children. Muslim children receive presents at Christmas time even though they do not celebrate the the time religiously. The present giving stops when the child becomes older though.

I'm a Christian and don't celebrate Christmas from a religious perspective. I would assume the the majority of people who celebrate Christmas don't celebrate it for religious reasons either. Sounds like political correctness going too far.

[Roamy]

I don't quite understand why schools would drop the nativity play so as not to offend Muslim children. Muslim children receive presents at Christmas time even though they do not celebrate the the time religiously. The present giving stops when the child becomes older though.

I'm a Christian and don't celebrate Christmas from a religious perspective. I would assume the the majority of people who celebrate Christmas don't celebrate it for religious reasons either. Sounds like political correctness going too far.

Well if you don't celebrate it for what it is then why don't you just have "Presents" day and everyone can give out gifts. Or what the hell are you celebrating??

[Dave B]

I'm an athiest but I'll be buggered if I'm missing out on presents just because I reject the notion of Christ being born!

[BeansBeansBeans]

Christmas may have originated as a Pagan or Christian festival, or whatever, but now it has just become a secular tradition for most people and to echo what Dave said, there's no way I'm missing out on my mam's turkey dinner, agnostic or not.

[Roamy]

then all the non believers should come up with a holiday and quit riding on Christ's coat tails to get a dinner and some presents.

[Eki]

then all the non believers should come up with a holiday and quit riding on Christ's coat tails to get a dinner and some presents.

Actually it was Christ who was first riding on Thor's goat's tail:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yule


Yule or Yule-tide is a winter festival that was initially celebrated by the historical Germanic peoples as a pagan religious festival, though it was later absorbed into, and equated with, the Christian festival of Christmas. The festival was originally celebrated from late December to early January on a date determined by the lunar Germanic calendar. The festival was placed on December 25 when the Christian (Julian) calendar was adopted. Some historians claim that the celebration is connected to the Wild Hunt or was influenced by Saturnalia, the Roman winter festival.

Terms etymological equivalent to "Yule" are still used in the Nordic Countries for both the Christian Christmas, but also other religious holidays of the season. In modern times this has gradually led to a more secular tradition under the same name as Christmas. Yule is also used in a lesser extent in English speaking countries to refer to Christmas. Customs such as the Yule log, Yule goat, Yule boar, Yule singing, and others stem from Yule. In modern times, Yule is observed as a cultural festival and also with religious rites by some Christians and by some Neopagans.

http://www.vastavalo.fi/albums/userpics/12970/normal_Olkipukki.jpg

[Eki]

And Santa wasn't invented by Coca Cola. They plagiarized him from Woden:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woden


Wōden is a god in Anglo-Saxon paganism, together with Norse Odin representing a development of a Proto-Germanic god, *Wōdanaz. Other West Germanic forms of the name include Old High German Wuotan, Low German and Dutch Wodan.
Woden was worshipped during the Migration period, until the 7th or 8th century, when Germanic paganism was gradually replaced by Christianity. In Christianised Anglo-Saxon England, Woden was rationalized as a historical king, and remnants of worship were continued into modern times as folklore. Wodan features prominently in both English and Continental folklore as the leader of the Wild Hunt and as a precursor of the English Father Christmas[1][2], or Father Winter[3][4][5][6], and the American Santa Claus [5][7][8][9][10][11][12][13][14][15].
Wednesday, Wensley[16][17][18], Wednesbury[19][20], Wansdyke[21][22] and Wednesfield[20] are named after Woden.

[Roamy]

I never thought about it this way. Perhaps this is why so many physicians are conservatives or republicans.

The Democratic Party has become the Lawyers’ Party.

Barack Obama is a lawyer.

Michelle Obama is a lawyer.

Hillary Clinton is a lawyer.

Bill Clinton is a lawyer.

John Edwards is a lawyer.

Elizabeth Edwards is a lawyer.

Every Democrat nominee since 1984 went to law school (although Gore did not graduate).

Every Democrat vice presidential nominee since 1976, except for Lloyd Bentsen, went to law school.

Look at leaders of the Democrat Party in Congress:

Harry Reid is a lawyer.

Nancy Pelosi is a lawyer.

The Republican Party is different.

President Bush is a businessman.

Vice President Cheney is a businessman.

The leaders of the Republican Revolution:

Newt Gingrich was a history professor.

Tom Delay was an exterminator. Dick Armey was an economist.

House Minority Leader Boehner was a plastic manufacturer.

The former Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist is a heart surgeon.

Who was the last Republican president who was a lawyer? Gerald Ford, who left office 31 years ago and who barely won the Republican nomination as a sitting president, running against Ronald Reagan in 1976. The Republican Party is made up of real people doing real work, who are often the targets of lawyers.

The Democrat Party is made up of lawyers. Democrats mock and scorn men who create wealth, like Bush and Cheney, or who heal the sick, like Frist, or who immerse themselves in history, like Gingrich.

The Lawyers’ Party sees these sorts of people, who provide goods and services that people want, as the enemies of America .. And, so we have seen the procession of official enemies, in the eyes of the Lawyers’ Party, grow.

Against whom do Hillary and Obama rail? Pharmaceutical companies, oil companies, hospitals, manufacturers, fast food restaurant chains, large retail businesses, bankers, and anyone producing anything of value in our nation.

This is the natural consequence of viewing everything through the eyes of lawyers. Lawyers solve problems by successfully representing their clients, in this case the American people. Lawyers seek to have new laws passed, they seek to win lawsuits, they press appellate courts to overturn precedent, and lawyers always parse language to favor their side.

Confined to the narrow practice of law, that is fine. But it is an awful way to govern a great nation. When politicians as lawyers begin to view some Americans as clients and other Americans as opposing parties, then the role of the leg al system in our life becomes all-consuming. Some Americans become “adverse parties” of our very government. We are not all litigants in some vast social class-action suit. We are citizens of a republic that promises us a great deal of freedom from laws, from courts, and from lawyers.

Today, we are drowning in laws; we are contorted by judicial decisions; we are driven to distraction by omnipresent lawyers in all parts of our once private lives. America has a place for laws and lawyers, but that place is modest and reasonable, not vast and unchecked. When the most important decision for our next president is whom he will appoint to the Supreme Court, the role of lawyers and the law in America is too big. When lawyers use criminal prosecution as a continuation of politics by other means, as happened in the lynching of Scooter Libby and Tom Delay, then the power of lawyers in America is too great. When House Democrats sue America in order to hamstring our efforts to learn what our enemies are planning to do to us, then the role of litigation in America has become crushing.

We cannot expect the Lawyers’ Party to provide real change, real reform or real hope in America Most Americans know that a republic in which every major government action must be blessed by nine unelected judges is not what Washington intended in 1789. Most Americans grasp that we cannot fight a war when ACLU lawsuits snap at the heels of our defenders. Most Americans intuit that more lawyers and judges will not restore declining moral values or spark the spirit of enterprise in our economy..

Perhaps Americans will understand that change cannot be brought to our nation by those lawyers who already largely dictate American society and business. Perhaps Americans will see that hope does not come from the mouths of lawyers but from personal dreams nourished by hard work. Perhaps Americans will embrace the truth that more lawyers with more power will only make our problems worse.

The United States has 5% of the world’s population and 66% of the world’s lawyers! Tort (Legal) reform legislation has been introduced in congress several times in the last several years to limit punitive damages in ridiculous lawsuits such as “spilling hot coffee on yourself and suing the establishment that sold it to you” and also to limit punitive damages in huge medical malpractice lawsuits. This legislation has continually been blocked from even being voted on by the Democrat Party. When you see that 97% of the political contributions from the American Trial Lawyers Association goes to the Democrat Party, then you realize who is responsible for our medical and product costs being so high!

[Eki]

President Bush is a businessman.

Vice President Cheney is a businessman.

That shows. They started wars to make profit.

[Roamy]

well we need a new business plan so when is Iran???

[Dave B]

I never thought about it this way. ...blah blah... being so high!

More cut'n'pasting. Do try to have an original thought of your own. Thinking is so important.

[Roamy]

More cut'n'pasting. Do try to have an original thought of your own. Thinking is so important.

yes - I think you are a asshole - but required very little brain thought!

[Dave B]

"An" asshole. Asshole begins with a vowel. Keep practicing, I know it's difficult to come up with original thoughts and spell them correctly, but you'll get there. :)

[Camelopard]

yes - I think you are a asshole - but required very little brain thought!

How embarassing foustina, you try to make a witty, cutting remark and you can't even do that without stuffing it up! :o

[Roamy]

do you want on the list too ????

[edv]

Better call the lawyers...

[Camelopard]

Better call the lawyers...

No need to get those bloodsuckers involved, it's all just a bit of fun.....












Well for some of us it is! :)

[Rollo]

I never thought about it this way. Perhaps this is why ...

... it arrived some 17 months late. This email dates from Jun 2008 and as far as I can make out was written by Allan Peters for the Orlando Sentinel.

If anything, you now owe him royalties for wholesale copying of a news article of which you didn't pay for the rights.

[Roamy]

Ok Tire's more cutting and pasting - This time from one of yours....
Part One

'In a generation or two, the US will ask itself: who lost Europe?'

Here is the speech of Geert Wilders, Chairman, Party for Freedom, the Netherlands, at the Four Seasons, New York, introducing an Alliance of Patriots and announcing the Facing Jihad Conference in Jerusalem.

Thank you very much for inviting me.

I come to America with a mission. All is not well in the old world. There is a tremendous danger looming, and it is very difficult to be optimistic. We might be in the final stages of the Islamization of Europe. This not only is a clear and present danger to the future of Europe itself, it is a threat to America and the sheer survival of the West. The United States as the last bastion of Western civilization, facing an Islamic Europe.

First I will describe the situation on the ground in Europe. Then, I will say a few things about Islam. To close I will tell you about a meeting in Jerusalem.

The Europe you know is changing.

You have probably seen the landmarks. But in all of these cities, sometimes a few blocks away from your tourist destination, there is another world. It is the world of the parallel society created by Muslim mass-migration.

All throughout Europe a new reality is rising: entire Muslim neighborhoods where very few indigenous people reside or are even seen. And if they are, they might regret it. This goes for the police as well. It's the world of head scarves, where women walk around in figureless tents, with baby strollers and a group of children. Their husbands, or slaveholders if you prefer, walk three steps ahead. With mosques on many street corners. The shops have signs you and I cannot read. You will be hard-pressed to find any economic activity. These are Muslim ghettos controlled by religious fanatics. These are Muslim neighborhoods, and they are mushrooming in every city across Europe. These are the building-blocks for territorial control of increasingly larger portions of Europe, street by street, neighborhood by neighborhood, city by city.

There are now thousands of mosques throughout Europe. With larger congregations than there are in churches. And in every European city there are plans to build super-mosques that will dwarf every church in the region. Clearly, the signal is: we rule.

Many European cities are already one-quarter Muslim: just take Amsterdam, Marseille and Malmo in Sweden. In many cities the majority of the under-18 population is Muslim. Paris is now surrounded by a ring of Muslim neighborhoods. Mohammed is the most popular name among boys in many cities.

In some elementary schools in Amsterdam the farm can no longer be mentioned, because that would also mean mentioning the pig, and that would be an insult to Muslims.

Many state schools in Belgium and Denmark only serve halal food to all pupils. In once-tolerant Amsterdam gays are beaten up almost exclusively by Muslims. Non-Muslim women routinely hear 'whore, whore'. Satellite dishes are not pointed to local TV stations, but to stations in the country of origin.

In France school teachers are advised to avoid authors deemed offensive to Muslims, including Voltaire and Diderot; the same is increasingly true of Darwin. The history of the Holocaust can no longer be taught because of Muslim sensitivity.

In England sharia courts are now officially part of the British legal system. Many neighborhoods in France are no-go areas for women without head scarves. Last week a man almost died after being beaten up by Muslims in Brussels, because he was drinking during the Ramadan.

Jews are fleeing France in record numbers, on the run for the worst wave of anti-Semitism since World War II. French is now commonly spoken on the streets of Tel Aviv and Netanya, Israel. I could go on forever with stories like this. Stories about Islamization.

A total of fifty-four million Muslims now live in Europe. San Diego University recently calculated that a staggering 25 percent of the population in Europe will be Muslim just 12 years from now. Bernhard Lewis has predicted a Muslim majority by the end of this century.

Now these are just numbers. And the numbers would not be threatening if the Muslim-immigrants had a strong desire to assimilate. But there are few signs of that. The Pew Research Center reported that half of French Muslims see their loyalty to Islam as greater than their loyalty to France. One-third of French Muslims do not object to suicide attacks. The British Centre for Social Cohesion reported that one-third of British Muslim students are in favor of a worldwide caliphate. Muslims demand what they call 'respect'. And this is how we give them respect. We have Muslim official state holidays.

The Christian-Democratic attorney general is willing to accept sharia in the Netherlands if there is a Muslim majority. We have cabinet members with passports from Morocco and Turkey.

Muslim demands are supported by unlawful behavior, ranging from petty crimes and random violence, for example against ambulance workers and bus drivers, to small-scale riots. Paris has seen its uprising in the low-income suburbs, the banlieus. I call the perpetrators 'settlers'. Because that is what they are. They do not come to integrate into our societies; they come to integrate our society into their Dar-al-Islam. Therefore, they are settlers.

[Roamy]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geert_Wilders

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7314636.stm

[Dave B]

Yawn.

[Roamy]

right brockman you want to come one here and debate some trivial bs that suits you. But the real world stuff you yawn just like most TIRE,s because of your loss of control is happening right before your eyes. If in fact you live in that sh!t country who's flag you fly you know exactly the aforementioned article is correct.. Probably the name Dave Brockman is a alias for MaHat Mafuk.

[Rollo]

Just to summarise:
Europe is not a republic, but a sort of super-politik of of 27 member states, and further more is in principle just like the United States in that there is no mention of religion in the EU in any current or proposed treaty, except for anti-discrimination measures.
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:C:2006:321E:0001:0331:EN :p df

What you are projecting is an air of Islamaphobia, which is misplaced, because if anything (and the censii of the EU nations bear this out) Europe on the whole is trending towards a sort of militant atheism.

Not that you'll read any of this, nor follow any of the links (which I shan't post anyway precisely for the same reason) and if anything all I expect is a continuance of the ill-thought out and possibly offensive rhetoric, or plagerism thus far; in that respect the following was the most well thought out post to date:


Yawn.

I concur - Yawn.

[pino]

Copying entire articles is against the law and against our policy/rules, so please don't do that. It's allowed to take short excerpt or selelcted parts from an article but the total must not exceed 10% of the work. In all cases a source or a link must be given.

Thank You !

[pino]

btw...please everyone stay cool or you will be in big trouble :)

[Daniel]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geert_Wilders

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7314636.stm
Funny thing is Fousto, most of the people you feel are gormless lefties spoke out against the UK government's bans on Geert Wilders coming into the UK.

http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=588675