2010 Cars, teams, drivers

[alleskids]

It is becoming time to look for the 2010 season.
Kris Meeke wil be back in IRC, with UK peugeot and Kronos, even if he wins the IRC. "All I can say is I will definitely be in the IRC next year. It is where I want to be and doing these rallies and this championship is an absolute pleasure. Of course I wouldn't rule out the WRC in the future, but to go there as a customer knowing you don't have the best machinery and won't get any testing is not for me."

Rumour goes that Kronos will have reduced support from Peugeot Belgium/Luxembourg for 2010 and they will run Thierry Neuville, leaving Nicolas Vouilloz and Freddy Loix out of a job?

[HaCo]

Duval also wants to do full IRC season next year, he stated in a very recent interview...

[Barreis]

I like this thread..

[Francis44]

We may see someone driving a Ford Fiesta S2000 full season!!!!

[J.Lindstroem]

We may see someone driving a Ford Fiesta S2000 full season!!!!

Victor Henriksson. Is'nt he a test driver of Ford? He has driven fiestas for a long time. Maybe he? Just guessing...

[noel157]

It is becoming time to look for the 2010 season.
Kris Meeke wil be back in IRC, with UK peugeot and Kronos, even if he wins the IRC. "All I can say is I will definitely be in the IRC next year. It is where I want to be and doing these rallies and this championship is an absolute pleasure. Of course I wouldn't rule out the WRC in the future, but to go there as a customer knowing you don't have the best machinery and won't get any testing is not for me."

Rumour goes that Kronos will have reduced support from Peugeot Belgium/Luxembourg for 2010 and they will run Thierry Neuville, leaving Nicolas Vouilloz and Freddy Loix out of a job?

Meeke for WRC in 2011 season with possibility of one or two outings in 2010.

[AndyRAC]

Meeke for WRC in 2011 season with possibility of one or two outings in 2010.

As long as it's a factory car, he did say he didn't lik the idea of a privateer entry.

[noel157]

As long as it's a factory car, he did say he didn't lik the idea of a privateer entry.

It may well be a factory car.

[Tom206wrc]

I'm eager for more news :)

[Barreis]

Don't forget Meeke's situation before this season: nothing and happiness if something shows up.. He must be happy to have seat..

[Sulland]

Rumors say that PG Anderson will drive a S2000 car for Petter Solbergs team, he is as anyone in rally looking to secure a budget. No make specified so far.

Mikkelsens management is also looking to secure him a S2000 seat for 2010. Either in IRC or WC.

Brynildsen is driving the RGRS Fabia in the two last WRC rounds to evaluate S2000 for 2010.

[urabus-denoS2000]

I would like Ford to have one car to give to loyal young M-Sport test drivers now driving a Fiesta like Boon,Henriksson,Jeram,...

[Sulland]

I would like Ford to have one car to give to loyal young M-Sport test drivers now driving a Fiesta like Boon,Henriksson,Jeram,...

Adam Gould maybe ?

[Buzz Lightyear]

Adam Gould maybe ?

why?

[Sulland]

He is from the Island claiming not to be a part of Europe !! :D


What about other good drivers not getting one of the 4 (!) factory drives in WRC ?

Can we see Galli back in IRC, or can Panizzi get a sponsor to pay for a season in IRC, and what about Duval, and also others not getting into WRC ?

Must be more fun driving in a championship where you are not beaten before SS1, because your car is a privat one.

[Barreis]

1 000 000 euros/season for Panizzi and You'll see experince..

[RS]

I guess Duval would be an option for Abarth alongside Basso for 2010 if he performs in Italy.

[Mirek]

... if Abarth continues...

[Pinto]

Adam Gould maybe ?

why?

sure craig breen would be in with a better chance than him with the r3 development he has done

and anyway gould had a poor poor year in the brc with young guns like keith cronin ali fisher and to a lesser extent young thourburn way ahead and not forgetting craig and marty McCormack i would rate them ahead as well

[RS]

]... if Abarth continues...

Yes... I hope their late season upturn in form might convince them.

[noel157]

why?

sure craig breen would be in with a better chance than him with the r3 development he has done

and anyway gould had a poor poor year in the brc with young guns like keith cronin ali fisher and to a lesser extent young thourburn way ahead and not forgetting craig and marty McCormack i would rate them ahead as well

In my view Breen is best young talent on the UK / Ireland scene at present. Cronnin etc are good but Breen's choice of contesting 3 championships (and winning 2 so far with the chance of winning a 3rd in Catalunya at the end of this month) can only put him further ahead of the other young guns. With his successful debut run in the development Fiesta R2 last weekend (4th) I'm sure Mr Wilson has plans for him.
Think Breen has his first run in a 4WD car this weekend so that will be interesting.

[Pinto]

yes hes a bright talent and prob the one young driver in ireland and the uk at the moment that is progressing his development in the right way

[Gordini]

Kronos Peugeot
1) Meeke? (UK)
2) Loix?
3) Vouilloz?

Skoda Motorsport
1) Kopecky
2) Hanninen
3) Meeke?

Abarth?
1) Basso?
2) Rossetti?
3) Alen?

Proton
1) Wilks?
2) Bouffier?

Opel
1) Mikkelsen?

Ford
1) PG Andersson?
2) Mikkelsen?

Toyota
?

Private

??

[noel157]

Kronos Peugeot
1) Meeke? (UK)
2) Loix?
3) Vouilloz?

Skoda Motorsport
1) Kopecky
2) Hanninen
3) Meeke?

Abarth?
1) Basso?
2) Rossetti?
3) Alen?

Proton
1) Wilks?
2) Bouffier?

Opel
1) Mikkelsen?

Ford
1) PG Andersson?
2) Mikkelsen?

Toyota
?

Private

??

Kopecky certainly with Skoda, is Hanninen confirmed? Would imagine Meeke will be with Kronos next year. Think Wilks will stay with Proton. Would love to see PG out in anything.

[Wim_Impreza]

Hänninen has a contract for the 2010 season.

[Mirek]

AFAIK Škoda hasn't decided yet which championship(s) they'll drive next season.

[bluuford]

He is from the Island claiming not to be a part of Europe !! :D


What about other good drivers not getting one of the 4 (!) factory drives in WRC ?

Can we see Galli back in IRC, or can Panizzi get a sponsor to pay for a season in IRC, and what about Duval, and also others not getting into WRC ?

Must be more fun driving in a championship where you are not beaten before SS1, because your car is a privat one.

Galli said that he better retires from rallying than goes to IRC. It was in one of his interviews.

[Barreis]

It's stupid that You have to pay for a drive..

[urabus-denoS2000]

Peugeot Benelux will maybe stop with Vouilloz and Loix and service one car for Neuville instead

[Buzz Lightyear]

Galli said that he better retires from rallying than goes to IRC. It was in one of his interviews.

This is a typical excuse from people who then it will affect their 'street cred' driving Super 2000 cars. They are up on 300bhp now, and 4 wheel drive, so whats the problem?

[noel157]

]AFAIK Škoda hasn't decided yet which championship(s) they'll drive next season.

IRC and/or WRC Cup?

[AndyRAC]

Galli said that he better retires from rallying than goes to IRC. It was in one of his interviews.

If that is true, then he is a misguided fool. So if Abarth offer him a fully paid drive in the 2010 IRC he'd turn it down?? :s mokin:

[RS]

]AFAIK Škoda hasn't decided yet which championship(s) they'll drive next season.

I can't see a good reason for them to go WRC cup. In IRC they fight for overall event wins, and there is a decent tv package, even if it is only Eurosport.

[Sulland]

I can't see a good reason for them to go WRC cup. In IRC they fight for overall event wins, and there is a decent tv package, even if it is only Eurosport.

If their plan is to do WRC in 2011, then collecting data in 2010 is a good reason !
But they can do both, using a private team ala Kronos to do one campaign.

[Barreis]

It's totally stupid this S2000 cup at this moment 'cos current works teams with their drivers won't be present..

[alleskids]

The provisionel 2010 IRC calandre
19-23/1 Monte Carlo
5-7/3 Curtiba
25-27/3 Argentinie
20-22/5 Azoren
18-20/6 Ieper
8-10/7 Japan
5-7/8 Madeira
27-29/8 Barum
9-11/9 Asturie of Valais
23-25/9 San Remo
14-16/10 RAC Scotland
26-28/11 Cyprus

[Barreis]

I heard that Croatia Delta Rally is 2010 IRC supporter..

[AndyRAC]

The provisionel 2010 IRC calandre
19-23/1 Monte Carlo
5-7/3 Curtiba
25-27/3 Argentinie
20-22/5 Azoren
18-20/6 Ieper
8-10/7 Japan
5-7/8 Madeira
27-29/8 Barum
9-11/9 Asturie of Valais
23-25/9 San Remo
14-16/10 RAC Scotland
26-28/11 Cyprus

That's quite a good calendar. Good to see Valais back, I enjoyed that last year. I just hope they swap Cyprus and Scotland - I'd prefer Scotland to be the season closer.

[Barreis]

Better then WRC calendar..

[AndyRAC]

Better then WRC calendar..

Be careful you don't upset the Finns.

[Barreis]

Without them on forum is too calm.. xd

[Luis Pacheco]

The provisionel 2010 IRC calandre
19-23/1 Monte Carlo
5-7/3 Curtiba
25-27/3 Argentinie
20-22/5 Azoren
18-20/6 Ieper
8-10/7 Japan
5-7/8 Madeira
27-29/8 Barum
9-11/9 Asturie of Valais
23-25/9 San Remo
14-16/10 RAC Scotland
26-28/11 Cyprus

Azores at 20/22 of May I don´t think so. Just one week before Portugal Rallye???

[Sulland]

I am still missing a real winter rally on the calendar. Was not the Arctic Rally planning to become an IRC round ?

[urabus-denoS2000]

I heard that Croatia Delta Rally is 2010 IRC supporter..

Yes it is but there are a lot of IRC supporters ;)

[Helstar]

Galli said that he better retires from rallying than goes to IRC. It was in one of his interviews.
Link ? I have read something different in his website ("New regulations of rallying in the future have been outlined, and we will address our choice also taking this side into account").

[alleskids]

Rally Sanrmeo will be a mixed event next year (gravel-tarmac) like the old days.

[Tom206wrc]

Cyprus...Cyprus...already a mechanical breaking rally at the time of WRCs/GrNs, so imagine with S2000s :s :s

[Mirek]

So what? S2000 aren't less reliable than gr.N. Usualy it's opposite.

By the way both car-brakers Cyprus and Acropolis were won by S2000 cars this year (in PWRC).

[Leon]

]So what? S2000 aren't less reliable than gr.N. Usualy it's opposite.

By the way both car-brakers Cyprus and Acropolis were won by S2000 cars this year (in PWRC).

Plus there are also stages that are not car - brakers....and can be used

[Tom206wrc]

I still read news about possibilty of two cars team under the Peugeot-Sport Portugal colours for IRC 2010 :confused:

[Francis44]

I still read news about possibilty of two cars team under the Peugeot-Sport Portugal colours for IRC 2010 :confused:

2 cars is too difficult, Alexandre Camacho 207 S2000 is now on sale but i still believe Magalhães has a chance!!!!

[pettersolberg29]

Has anyone else heard a rumour of a 7 event plan for Sarrazin in the Peugeot Sport 207? Possibly in place of Vouilloz but thats just a hunch.

[Tom206wrc]

Has anyone else heard a rumour of a 7 event plan for Sarrazin in the Peugeot Sport 207? Possibly in place of Vouilloz but thats just a hunch.


Depends of his future programme in Endurance racing with Peugeot-Sport :mark:

But I guess if it's only two ALMS events+ the 24h Le Mans race like this year, he will have time to think about rallying :rolleyes:

[Tom206wrc]

What car for Guy Wilks in 2010 ??? :confused:

I've read a strange rumour on http://www.rally-mania.cz/ Kris Meeke could switch to a Fabia next year :confused:

[wwbroe]

What car for Guy Wilks in 2010 ??? :confused:

I've read a strange rumour on http://www.rally-mania.cz/ Kris Meeke could switch to a Fabia next year :confused:

If i understand it good, that would be for long term deal for WRC. First in the 2010 S2000 Cup and later on in real WRC? Can any od our Czech friends comfirm this? :confused:

[Mirek]

It's first time I hear something about Meeke and Skoda. I think it originaly goes from motorsportnews but rally-mania source is our forum member RS, so You can ask him directly where he got the information...

[Buzz Lightyear]

Regardles.. how does it translate? That Skoda do Super 2000 Cup in 2010?

[Mirek]

No, most probably Skoda won't start in WRC Cup (as factory team but some privateers for sure) and will start in IRC (more rounds than this year).

[Ondra WRC]

first info Meeke and Skoda brought rally-news.com
full article is here: http://www.rallye-info.com/article.asp?sid=0&stid=8271

[Mirek]

This is article from forum member RS we were talking about before...

[eloyf1]

Autosport mag published it on October 1st magazine... ;)

Quoting Meeke, he says that the easiest way would be to stay with Peugeot, but he's still thinking other ways (In fact, the magazine already says he must choose between Peugeot and Skoda):
"It's too early to think about next year. At the moment, it still hasn't sunk in that I'm IRC champion. I would have been easy to have made the decision to stay with Peugeot at the finish. There was so much emotion and what Peugeot and I have achieved is incredible; the whole team has been amazing. But I need to focus on what's best for Kris Meeke right now. In the past I've been loyal and made decisions born out of that. I can't do that now - now it's got to be the best thing for me. That said, this is a fantastic team and I'm fortunate to be in the position tp have options available to me for next season. I'll make decision after Rally Scotland, but right now I want to go there and enjoy the rally."

It sounds a bit of a farewell...

[noel157]

Whatever decision Meeke makes I hope it is the right one, especially for his longterm future.
If he does move on and Peugeot UK stay I wonder who could take his place, a British driver with IRC experience, wonder who that would be?

[RS]

]This is article from forum member RS we were talking about before...

Yes, the Meeke info came from Autosport but it has been talked about for some time that Skoda may be interested in Meeke. I expect it would work in a similar way to the Peugeot UK deal with maybe Skoda UK contributing (especially with new Fabia RS due next year and the previous model selling very well in the UK)

It would be fantastic to see Meeke in IRC with Skoda. I think the idea behind the rumour is that Skoda (or VW) are more likely to be able to offer Meeke a future WRC seat than PSA who are 'fully booked' with two very strong drivers in the Citroen.

If this came true, I could only imagine Skoda would dominate IRC next year with Kopecky, Hanninen and Meeke!

[AndyRAC]

Yes, the Meeke info came from Autosport but it has been talked about for some time that Skoda may be interested in Meeke. I expect it would work in a similar way to the Peugeot UK deal with maybe Skoda UK contributing (especially with new Fabia RS due next year and the previous model selling very well in the UK)

It would be fantastic to see Meeke in IRC with Skoda. I think the idea behind the rumour is that Skoda (or VW) are more likely to be able to offer Meeke a future WRC seat than PSA who are 'fully booked' with two very strong drivers in the Citroen.

If this came true, I could only imagine Skoda would dominate IRC next year with Kopecky, Hanninen and Meeke!

And still the problem remains. Why limit the number of cars to 2? In years gone by there would be anything from 2-4 Works cars. That's why the new cars need to be inexpensive. Then a team can have more than 2 cars.

[noel157]

Yes, the Meeke info came from Autosport but it has been talked about for some time that Skoda may be interested in Meeke. I expect it would work in a similar way to the Peugeot UK deal with maybe Skoda UK contributing (especially with new Fabia RS due next year and the previous model selling very well in the UK)

It would be fantastic to see Meeke in IRC with Skoda. I think the idea behind the rumour is that Skoda (or VW) are more likely to be able to offer Meeke a future WRC seat than PSA who are 'fully booked' with two very strong drivers in the Citroen.

If this came true, I could only imagine Skoda would dominate IRC next year with Kopecky, Hanninen and Meeke!

RS, does this all sound logical to you? A team that has 3 top line drivers? Ok Hanninen is weak on asphalt but he's a match for most on gravel and ice and Kopecky is gradually getting up to speed on gravel and Meeke is happy on all surfaces. Can't see it happening, surely the current 2 drivers want WRC as well assuming that Skoda actually go that far. Have they said so officially that WRC is their ultimate target?
Personally I think Meeke will stay with Peugeot in the IRC in 2010 and will have the opportunity to enter WRC in 2011. But only my view, we shall see.

[alleskids]

Eurosport has reveiled the 2010 calander. The big surprose is the Sardinia Rally, which falls out of the WRC in 2010, So Italy will have 2 events, just like Portugal, although both Portugees events are far from Portugal. Six tarmac rallies, 4 on gravel and Sanremo and Cyprus will be mixed events.

20-23 January: Monte Carlo Rally, asphalt
4-6 March: Rally de Curitiba, gravel
19-21 March : Rally Argentina, gravel
4-6 June: Rally of Sardinia,, gravel
24-26 June: Rally Ypres, asphalt
15-17 July: Sata Rally Azores, asphalt
5-7 August: Rally Vinho Madeira, asphalt
27-29 August: Barum Rally Zlin, asphalt
9-11 September: Rally Principe de Asturias, asphalt
23-25 September: Rallye Sanremo , asphalt / gravel
14-16 October: RAC Rally of Scotland, gravel
4-6 November: Rally of Cyprus, gravel/ asphalt

[Francis44]

Eurosport has reveiled the 2010 calander. The big surprose is the Sardinia Rally, which falls out of the WRC in 2010, So Italy will have 2 events, just like Portugal, although both Portugees events are far from Portugal. Six tarmac rallies, 4 on gravel and Sanremo and Cyprus will be mixed events.

They are not that far, they are Islands but you can get to them in 1:30 hours by plane!!!!

[pucky54]

Eurosport has reveiled the 2010 calander. The big surprose is the Sardinia Rally, which falls out of the WRC in 2010, So Italy will have 2 events, just like Portugal, although both Portugees events are far from Portugal. Six tarmac rallies, 4 on gravel and Sanremo and Cyprus will be mixed events.

20-23 January: Monte Carlo Rally, asphalt
4-6 March: Rally de Curitiba, gravel
19-21 March : Rally Argentina, gravel
4-6 June: Rally of Sardinia,, gravel
24-26 June: Rally Ypres, asphalt
15-17 July: Sata Rally Azores, asphalt
5-7 August: Rally Vinho Madeira, asphalt
27-29 August: Barum Rally Zlin, asphalt
9-11 September: Rally Principe de Asturias, asphalt
23-25 September: Rallye Sanremo , asphalt / gravel
14-16 October: RAC Rally of Scotland, gravel
4-6 November: Rally of Cyprus, gravel/ asphalt

Azores on tarmac????

[Mirek]

Mistake probably...

[pettersolberg29]

Is it me or is this calendar far more exciting than the WRC one for 2010? Don't want to start a WRC v. IRC argument, but having Monte Carlo, Argentina, Cyprus, San Remo, Sardinia and Scotland is very impressive.

[Barreis]

Better calendar then WRC.. Plus no nominated drivers.. Plus no taking points 'cos must start on number of races..

[Luis Pacheco]

Azores on tarmac????

Again the same mystake? :confused:

[bluuford]

Well, I hoped that they have one proper snow event as well.. Now the only hope is that MC has some snow. And if the climate predictions of our work group are correct then it will be more likely each year from now on! But they have chosen Cyprus for the end of season instead (probably when all the titles are already decided). They have chosen fourth rainiest month in a year, when the weather is not so nice anymore. Will be like this year WRC when cars were virtually moving with walking speed in mud in some places :-)
Curtiba and Argetina are quite interesting to see, how many of the drivers and cars opt to go there? Well the car can be there for the whole month, but what about the crew, mechanics, etc? We will see. I am bit careful with that.

[Mirek]

In my opinion Skoda is going to South America next year ;)

[Luis Pacheco]

They are not that far, they are Islands but you can get to them in 1:30 hours by plane!!!!

1:30 hours from mainland to the Azores?? :eek:
Next time I want to flight in your plane, please. :D

Just kidding. 1h30 is the time spend to flight from Lisbon to Madeira. To the Azores is about 2h30m.

[alleskids]

There is big gap between the South American rounds (which will be coordinated with the WTCC plain) and the next round on Sardinia: 21 march > 6 june. So mecanics, drivers and staff wil travel by plain while the cars and material will travel a month by boot. So teams will have a break or preparing a second car.

[pettersolberg29]

Well, I hoped that they have one proper snow event as well.. Now the only hope is that MC has some snow. And if the climate predictions of our work group are correct then it will be more likely each year from now on!

How about Norway and Sweden alternate between the WRC and IRC?

[bluuford]

How about Norway and Sweden alternate between the WRC and IRC?

I think that Sweden and Norway were happy with the situation that they have an event once in two years. I was thinking more likely about Finland and their unique event in Lapland. Is it still almost unlimited recce? Or maybe something in USA, Canada :-)

[Buzz Lightyear]

Monte Carlo 2010 looks like being the Rally of the Year!

[RS]

Good calendar, all the "IRC classics" are there. Not sure about Cyprus, but I rather have that as the last event than Scotland because as we can see, being last event on the calendar is not such a great thing if the titles are already decided..

[RS]

RS, does this all sound logical to you? A team that has 3 top line drivers? Ok Hanninen is weak on asphalt but he's a match for most on gravel and ice and Kopecky is gradually getting up to speed on gravel and Meeke is happy on all surfaces. Can't see it happening, surely the current 2 drivers want WRC as well assuming that Skoda actually go that far. Have they said so officially that WRC is their ultimate target?
Personally I think Meeke will stay with Peugeot in the IRC in 2010 and will have the opportunity to enter WRC in 2011. But only my view, we shall see.

I think that Meeke is more likely to stay at Peugeot, but the other scenario is entirely possible. Could be Kris is just using it to get a better contract from Peugeot but we will see...

Don't forget in IRC the best two drivers of your make score manufacturers points, and this year Skoda didn't really stand a chance in the makes battle for that very reason.

Skoda have not said whether or not they are interested in WRC in the future. I guess they will think about it when the FIA have finally decided the new rules.

[Mirek]

Could be Kris is just using it to get a better contract from Peugeot but we will see...

May be that way. It wouldn't be anything new even in IRC :)

[principe IRC]

This is just a rumor, I repeat, only a rumor that appears on Autohebdo:

Enrique Garcia Ojeda - Subaru STI Prodrive.

[HaCo]

In three ways this would be good:
- Some competition for Mitsus
- Subaru would have to subscribe for getting points
- Local Subaru would be seen as well

[Barreis]

[quote="principe IRC"]This is just a rumor, I repeat, only a rumor that appears on Autohebdo:

Enrique Garcia Ojeda - Subaru STI Prodrive.[/QUO

:)

[Mirek]

S14 in IRC? Only as zero car ;)

[ProRally]

This is just a rumor, I repeat, only a rumor that appears on Autohebdo:

Enrique Garcia Ojeda - Subaru STI Prodrive.

Also heard that Subaru 'would' pay for the fee to IRC, IF they have guaranteed entry with Impreza to IRC

[alleskids]

]S14 in IRC? Only as zero car ;)

Subaru Impreza STI is the N14 I believe

[Mirek]

It was an answer to a question which was later edited. I shall quote next time :)

[alleskids]

]It was an answer to a question which was later edited. I shall quote next time :)

ok :) misunderstanding :)

[noel157]

Also heard that Subaru 'would' pay for the fee to IRC, IF they have guaranteed entry with Impreza to IRC

Didn't Subaru join up to the IRC this year, although no cars entered. Shouldn't be a problem for 2010.

[Mirek]

They didn't join IRC in 2009 but I heard they already did for 2010...

[noel157]

]They didn't join IRC in 2009 but I heard they already did for 2010...

You are of course correct Mirek, I thought there was a post earlier this year about Subaru signing up, maybe they only enquired about it and didn't follow through.
Should be 8 manufacturers in 2010 then - Abarth, Peugeot, Honda, Mitsubishi, Proton, Volkswagen, Skoda and Subaru. Hey, we might even get one or two more.

[Mirek]

I think that Abarth, Volkswagen and maybe Honda are doubtfull. On the other hand I expect Ford to be registred.

[Tom206wrc]

Franz Wittmann in a 207 S2000 at Rallye Waldviertel(last round of austrian championship)...wonder if it could be his future car for IRC 2010 :confused:

[alleskids]

Patrick Snijers will start in Monte Carlo 2010, the car will soon be known on his website. Also Pieter Tsjoen has plans for Monte Carlo with a Ford Fiesta S2000, if he can buy the car and return his Focus WRC to M-Sport. His second chooise is a Skoda Fabia from Rene George Rallysport.

[RS]

Also Pieter Tsjoen has plans for Monte Carlo with a Ford Fiesta S2000, if he can buy the car and return his Focus WRC to M-Sport.

Do M-Sport do part exchange? :D

[pettersolberg29]

If so, I'll swap my 1999 rusty Fiesta for a new Focus WRC 09? Deal?

[urabus-denoS2000]

Pettersolberg29,I think you're exaggerating,I think there is a strict 'Model for model' policy so I'm afraid you can 'only' get a Fiesta S2000 ;)

[pettersolberg29]

That's a shame! I think I'll stick with Ol' Rusty then ;)

[urabus-denoS2000]

Good choice!

[RS]

More about Mikkelsen's aims: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/79437

[principe IRC]

Alastair Fisher some IRC rallies next year

http://www.ircseries.com/html/readNews.asp?id=1366

[alleskids]

The plan of doing the Sata Rally Azores and then ship directly to Madeira wil not work, because the Azores rally will be (almost only) on gravel, so the cars have to be transported back to Europe and the teams HQ, then be transformed to tarmac settings before being transported to Madeira.

[wwbroe]

The plan of doing the Sata Rally Azores and then ship directly to Madeira wil not work, because the Azores rally will be (almost only) on gravel, so the cars have to be transported back to Europe and the teams HQ, then be transformed to tarmac settings before being transported to Madeira.

Why is that? Next year there are also two mixed events in the championship, namely San Remo and Cyprus. So they will bring back the cars during overnight halt to workshop's to change set-up? I don't think so. :D

[Luis Pacheco]

The teams will have to choose between Acores and Madeira.

Or the possibility of bringing to the Acores two cars, one with the specifications of asphalt... :rolleyes:

[Mirek]

There's no need for that. It's not that difficult (as mentioned with mixed events).

[principe IRC]

The Portuguese Vitor Pascoal could do five events next year.

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=es&ie=UTF-8&sl=pt&tl=en&u=http://autosport.aeiou.pt/gen.pl%3Fp%3Dstories%26op%3Dview%26fokey%3Das.stor ies/78224&rurl=translate.google.com.ar&usg=ALkJrhi6MgNbWspx-9r9E_exTmrx2R-8Mw

[urabus-denoS2000]

Patrick Snijers will do some IRC next year in an Subaru Impreza N12b ;)

www.autosport.cz (http://www.autosport.cz)

[Tom206wrc]

If you want to get best results as possible in IRC you drive an S2000 not a traditionnal GrN :mark:

[urabus-denoS2000]

Those are great news for me as a Subaru fan,but I completely agree with you,don't know why he chose N12b ;)

[Sulland]

Are there plans for upgrades on any of the current S2000 cars ?

Pug has been passed by Skoda as the best S2000, are they planning to take the crown back ?
Abarth need to do a big jump to get to the top, will they do something ?

[Rally Power]

Are there plans for upgrades on any of the current S2000 cars ?


At least the 1820mm wide adjustment.

[Mirek]

Are there plans for upgrades on any of the current S2000 cars ?

You will see some at Monte Carlo ;)

[Buzz Lightyear]

Pug has been passed by Skoda as the best S2000, are they planning to take the crown back ?


How do you figure that out?

[urabus-denoS2000]

Privateers are getting better results with Skoda

Pug 207 is still number 1 but more and more Skoda are ending up with privateers.

Remember that Punto was number 1 after 1 year of 207 being active it began to rapidly fall

[alleskids]

Kris Meeke sticks to the Peugeot 207 and Kronos Racing for the 2010 IRC, despite the offer from Skoda Motorsport.

[Mirek]

Can You give us a source, please ;)

If it's true, it's great for IRC and the sport. It would be too much one team show if he goes to Skoda...

[principe IRC]

]Can You give us a source, please ;)

If it's true, it's great for IRC and the sport. It would be too much one team show if he goes to Skoda...

http://autosport.aeiou.pt/gen.pl?p=stories&op=view&fokey=as.stories/78365

[noel157]

Makes sense staying with PSA for 2010 and beyond.

[[Madeira-Rally]]

http://autosport.aeiou.pt/gen.pl?p=stories&op=view&fokey=as.stories/78365

Autosport Portugal isn't a great source.. .they write too many wrong news... :s mokin:

[noel157]

Kris Meeke's thoughts on his future and the lack of clarity by the FIA:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/79853

[Rally Power]

]Autosport Portugal isn't a great source.. .they write too many wrong news... :s mokin:

Let’s be fair…in weekly printed version, most of time they’re right, speccialy because they count with Martin Holmes collaboration for more than 20 years!

Problem it’s on the website, with the speedy translation of "tempting" autosport.com news and motorsportforums.com comments! :D

[alleskids]

Nasser Al-Attiyah is planning a move to the Intercontinental Rally Challenge in 2010, with his Italian navigator Giovanni Bernacchini. He knows not yet which car he will use, but 2 Skoda Fabia's are sent to the Middle East. IF he does the IRC, he wil skip Monte Carlo, because it clashes with the MERC. So he wil then start in Brasil. IF the plans come true.
Al-Attiyah is planning an entry on the inaugural RACMSA Rally of Scotland from November 19-21, the final round of this year's IRC.
(from Crash.net)

[Tom206wrc]

Looks like Peugeot Belux will announce at the start of Condroz rally(this thursday??)2010 IRC program for promising Thierry Neuville :)

[PLuto]

Gaby Goudezeune on selected events with VW Polo S2000 - http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=9452

[Luis Pacheco]

How old is Goudezeune now?

I remember him in the 90´s at Rally Algarve and Rally Portugal with is Mazda.

[Mirek]

57 years

[HaCo]

Interview with teamboss of Skoda:
- IRC will be priority in 2010, not full season but selected events, but more than this year
- Sold 13 cars already
- Are happy to support excisting local dealers, but hope to have gain market share in Deutschland, Polen, Frankreich, Slowakei und in Skandinavien (do they mean that they hope to sell S2000 there as well?? :) )
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/index.php?id=d15&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=30008&cHash=61d56b4aab

[Mirek]

It's Skoda Motorsport press release. Original in English is here: http://new.skoda-auto.com/COM/about/info/news/motorsport/News/Pages/2009_47_S2000Milestone.aspx

[alleskids]

Looks like Peugeot Belux will announce at the start of Condroz rally(this thursday??)2010 IRC program for promising Thierry Neuville :)

Peugeot Belux announced the 207 CUP, with no word about IRC or Thierry Neuville.

[Mirek]

Skoda will use new evolution (wider body, facelifted mask) since second IRC round probably. Current model will still be used in Monte Carlo.

Photos of 2010 evolution (mask will probably be changed after Geneve autoshow):

http://honzav.webnode.cz/fotogalerie/rally/test-s-m-dlouhy/photogallerycbm_919394/12/

http://files.honzav.webnode.cz/200004732-e9ba9eab61-public/PB060132.JPG

[jonas_mcrae]

Now that the Fabia is proven to be a really good rally car. Im starting to wonder what a good business it is as well. So 13 car have been sold, each one is what? EUR400-500,000? How much does it cost to make one? at least 300,000? Big profits right there.

Then they hire them all the time, how many fabias do you see competing in CZ, Poland, and of course IRC. Plus they provide technical assitance, parts, etc.

In my opinion (And its just MY opinion, hope some of the CZ guys can tell me if Im roght/wrong) the Fabia has already paid for developing costs and is now making profits. I think this project was designed and planned deep inside Skoda/VW and from the beginning it was thought not only to win but to make profits.

So... RALLYING IS PROFITABLE!!!
(and in this financial environment that is a HUGE thing)

I guess Peugeot and Fiat have also sold a fair amount of cars, it would be interesting to know what kind of profits they are making.
(I know M-Sport is very profitable, but would be nice to know how much are these "small" operations are making)

[RS]

]Skoda will use new evolution (wider body, facelifted mask) since second IRC round probably. Current model will still be used in Monte Carlo.

Photos of 2010 evolution (mask will probably be changed after Geneve autoshow):

http://honzav.webnode.cz/fotogalerie/rally/test-s-m-dlouhy/photogallerycbm_919394/12/

http://files.honzav.webnode.cz/200004732-e9ba9eab61-public/PB060132.JPG

Fabia looks nice even wider :)

Mirek, I think this test model has new wider, lower front grille.. But I am waiting for new headlights too maybe?

[ProRally]

Now that the Fabia is proven to be a really good rally car. Im starting to wonder what a good business it is as well. So 13 car have been sold, each one is what? EUR400-500,000? How much does it cost to make one? at least 300,000? Big profits right there.

Then they hire them all the time, how many fabias do you see competing in CZ, Poland, and of course IRC. Plus they provide technical assitance, parts, etc.

In my opinion (And its just MY opinion, hope some of the CZ guys can tell me if Im roght/wrong) the Fabia has already paid for developing costs and is now making profits. I think this project was designed and planned deep inside Skoda/VW and from the beginning it was thought not only to win but to make profits.

So... RALLYING IS PROFITABLE!!!
(and in this financial environment that is a HUGE thing)

I guess Peugeot and Fiat have also sold a fair amount of cars, it would be interesting to know what kind of profits they are making.
(I know M-Sport is very profitable, but would be nice to know how much are these "small" operations are making)

From what I hear, a Skoda is around 285.000 euro full option, maybe Mirek know more, but definitely less than 400.000 let alone 500.000 euro. Even new WRC car will be less than 400K
There might be some profit but not that much that after 13 cars ALL the development is paid for

[RS]

From what I hear, a Skoda is around 285.000 euro full option, maybe Mirek know more, but definitely less than 400.000 let alone 500.000 euro. Even new WRC car will be less than 400K
There might be some profit but not that much that after 13 cars ALL the development is paid for

Maybe not profit, but if it can help pay for the IRC programme it is a nice circular scheme :)

A new WRCar I think costs more than 400,000 Euros though?

[Sulland]

Has the 2010 regs been changed from 2009, to include 1820 with ?

Are there other changes, I have not seen any reg changes from FIA, can anyone post a link ?

[bluuford]

Maybe not profit, but if it can help pay for the IRC programme it is a nice circular scheme :)

A new WRCar I think costs more than 400,000 Euros though?

2003 Focus wit lot of spare parts cost about 200 000 Euros
2006 Subaru S12 costs about 220 000 Euros
2007 Subaru S12B costs about 300 000 Euros
2006-2007 Focus costs from 350 000 - 420 000 Euros right now
Newest Evolution does not cost much more, that means definitely not over 500 000 EUR.

[noel157]

Has the 2010 regs been changed from 2009, to include 1820 with ?

Are there other changes, I have not seen any reg changes from FIA, can anyone post a link ?

VW and their Scirocco are responsible to the revised width.

[Barreis]

New M-sport Focus WRC 2008 is 500 000GBP plus VAT.. Fabia S2000 is from 210 000 (used) to 269 000 euros (new) plus VAT..

[ProRally]

Maybe not profit, but if it can help pay for the IRC programme it is a nice circular scheme :)

A new WRCar I think costs more than 400,000 Euros though?

Sorry I mean the NEW WRCar for 2011, with 1.6T engine

[bluuford]

Originally Posted by bluuford:
Galli said that he better retires from rallying than goes to IRC. It was in one of his interviews.
Helstar wrote:
Link ? I have read something different in his website ("New regulations of rallying in the future have been outlined, and we will address our choice also taking this side into account").

Found it! http://translate.google.ee/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.rallye-magazin.de/&ei=_Nn5Ss67E8-rjAeuy_mIDA&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBMQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Drallye-magazin.de%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG

[Sulland]

VW and their Scirocco are responsible to the revised width.

Yes, but has it officially come out from FIA, or have the manufacturers been told that this will be the case, and are making the 2010 cars from this ?

[noel157]

Yes, but has it officially come out from FIA, or have the manufacturers been told that this will be the case, and are making the 2010 cars from this ?

As far as I know it is official. I'm sure I read about it somewhere. If the manufacturers have been told then I'm sure it is official. Maybe somebody else knows.

[Mirek]

Has the 2010 regs been changed from 2009, to include 1820 with ?

Are there other changes, I have not seen any reg changes from FIA, can anyone post a link ?

Also use of polymer plastic foam in door panels as in WRC (for newly homologated cars) and use of polycarbonate side windows like in WRC cars I think.

[noel157]

I know nothing has been signed yet but felt that Meeke would stay with Peugeot for 2010. I understand his situation with regard to 2011 and beyond and how he of course wants an WRC seat. If Skoda are going to WRC it would make sense to go with them but I'd be worried that with Kopecky and Hanninen already there would there be room for him? Of course if he somehow was faster than the 2 works drivers........

This appeared in the Belfast Telegraph today:

Meeke aiming to make it all smiles in Scotland
By Sammy Hamill
Thursday, 19 November 2009


Kris Meeke has a string of reasons why he wants to win the Rally of Scotland, final round of the Intercontinental Rally Challenge, which kicks off in the stately surroundings of Scone Palace near Perth tonight.

Although he is already champion, Meeke wants to end a remarkable year on a high and become the first driver to win five IRC rounds in a season.

He also regards Scotland as his adopted home having lived and worked there with his early mentor Colin McRae and his family and would love to win on Scottish soil in memory of the late World champion.

He is also aware of the hordes of Irish fans heading for the highlands to see him and co-driver Paul Nagle on what is as close as they come to a home round of the series.

And he wants them to see him beat his old nemesis from the Junior World championship, Guy Wilks, who has again been stoking up the rivalry.

But perhaps most important of all he wants to win because this could be his final appearance for the championship-winning Peugeot team.

They want him to stay to defend the IRC title in 2010 and he wants to stay, too.

But Meeke, now 30, is looking to the future and it may not be with the Peugeot/Citroen group.

As he prepared to tackle 300 kilometres of Scottish forests, the Dungannon driver admitted he is facing a dilemma.

“I would love to stay within the PSA (Peugeot-Citroen) group but I have to be realistic on where that will lead,” he explained.

“I want to defend my IRC title next year and then move to the World championship in 2011 when it switches to the kind of Super 2000 cars I'm currently driving.

“But the PSA group does not allow Peugeot and Citroen to compete against each other in the same championship which means for me to get to the WRC I would have to find a place in the Citroen team.

“But they already have Sebastien Loeb and Dani Sordo under contract and, because they have to have a French driver in the team, Sebastien Ogier is considered to be next in line.

“I've spoken to Olivier Quesnell, who is in charge of motorsport for both Citroen and Peugeot, and he has spelt out the situation for me.

“He wants me to stay with Peugeot in the IRC and continue testing with Citroen but can't promise anything beyond that.

“In fact, he told me it would be different if I was French ...”

However, Meeke has a concrete offer on the table from Peugeot's main IRC rivals Skoda who are eyeing up the possibility of switching to the World championship in 2011.

“But Skoda have said they will only make the switch if the current two-litre engines are used and the FIA is discussing changing to 1600 turbo engines and won't make a decision until mid December,” added Meeke,

“That's just six weeks before the first round of next year's IRC championship in Monte Carlo which leaves with me little time to decide what to do.

“I'm not saying that my decision is important, but it's important to me to get it right for next year and, possibly more importantly, the year after.

“There has been a lack of direction on this engine business and the delays and confusion are not helping anyone.”

Eurosport will broadcast live stages from the Rally of Scotland at 9.45am tomorrow and again at five o’clock in the afternoon followed by two more stages on Saturday (10am and 2.45pm)



http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/meeke-aiming-to-make-it-all-smiles-in-scotland-14566371.html#ixzz0XIQFSIDe

[Tom206wrc]

So Freddy Loix in IRC 2010 with Skoda Fabia from RGS ??? ;)

[Simmi]

He's stuck between a rock and a hard place then is poor Kris. Cheers for posting that article that gives a lot of good info.

This is just another example of how FIA dithering messes everything up. For better of worse a decision should have been made by now. For sure there are a lot of politics involved but this could have been sorted out months ago.

[Mirek]

So Freddy Loix in IRC 2010 with Skoda Fabia from RGS ??? ;)

You have to wait. It's question of... ehmm budget of course...

[RS]

So Freddy Loix in IRC 2010 with Skoda Fabia from RGS ??? ;)

2 car RGRS team of Loix and Wilks would be good :)

[RS]

Chris Mellors said on Rally Radio that a 2 car IRC programme for Proton is pretty much confirmed and he is off to Malaysia next week to put the finishing touches to the programme.

They also plan to run 2 cars in APRC and Alister McRae will be one of the 4 drivers. Alister wants to do IRC now having had a taste but Mellors is also talking to other interesting drivers (I hope Vouilloz and Basso included)

[Sulland]

2 car RGRS team of Loix and Wilks would be good :)

Or Mikkelsen in one of the cars ?!

[RS]

Or Mikkelsen in one of the cars ?!

Why not? :)

Wilks could drive a third factory Skoda (Hrabanek and Hortek were in Scotland apparantly) and Mikkelsen can go with RGRS!

Andreas has been supported by Hankook recentely, and they can't go to WRC...

[noel157]

Meeke will stay with Peugeot for 2010.
A McRae will do IRC all or most rounds with Proton.

[PLuto]

Renault Clio R3 Trophy on some IRC events next year: http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=9556

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/b_b49c9f6932ae997832a1d14661d70e27.jpg

[RS]

So will Renault register for the series?

[Mirek]

According to Pluto's article yes. Since it's in Czech language...

Clio R3 Trophy (no order): Rallye du Var, Rallye du Valais, Ypres Rallye, Barum Rally, Mille Miglia and sixth event is not decided.

[PLuto]

So will Renault register for the series?

He is very close to do it...

[RS]

Proton boss Chris Mellors said they are "going to be testing with some very interesting people in December" http://www.rallye-info.com/article.asp?sid=0&stid=8361

Anyone knows who they are? I am expecting Toni Gardemeister to be one of them.

I really hope this comes to fruition, the Proton was really good to watch in Scotland and sounds nice too. The car is not yet there with the best but with a couple of decent drivers they could do well.

[HaCo]

Yes, it's a great S2000!

[Rally Hokkaido]

Rallysport magazine reports (link below) that Simon & Sue Evans will test a 207 with a view to entering some rounds of the 2010 IRC! He would be definitely be exciting to watch on gravel!!

http://www.rallysportmag.com.au/home/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4325&Itemid=2

[Mirek]

Proton boss Chris Mellors said they are "going to be testing with some very interesting people in December" http://www.rallye-info.com/article.asp?sid=0&stid=8361

Anyone knows who they are? I am expecting Toni Gardemeister to be one of them.

I really hope this comes to fruition, the Proton was really good to watch in Scotland and sounds nice too. The car is not yet there with the best but with a couple of decent drivers they could do well.

Nico Vouilloz should be among them.


Rallysport magazine reports (link below) that Simon & Sue Evans will test a 207 with a view to entering some rounds of the 2010 IRC! He would be definitely be exciting to watch on gravel!!

http://www.rallysportmag.com.au/home/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4325&Itemid=2

Would be great!

[RS]

]Nico Vouilloz should be among them.



I wondered whether Nicolas was possible. That's good news. I guess they are also looking for a driver with some personal sponsors and Nicolas has some...

[pettersolberg29]

Any more news on Mikkelsen's or Brynildsen's plans? I was hearing postive stuff r.e. Mikkelsen but its gone quiet now.

[macksrallye]

Eli Evans will run a JAS built Civic in next years Australian Rally Championship. Hopefully we will see more GroupR cars heading to the Asia Pacific Region soon.

http://www.rallysportmag.com.au/home/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4335&Itemid=2

[principe IRC]

The young Spanish driver Jonathan Perez will make some races in IRC or ERC (not yet known) in his Renault Clio R3.

http://www.lne.es/deportes/2009/12/07/objetivo-ano-aprender-llevamos-titulos/844570.html

[PLuto]

Francois Duval will be testing Proton - http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=9586

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/b_2b95721210f4c9b3bd357091ee68a069.jpg

[noel157]

Francois Duval will be testing Proton - http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=9586

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/b_2b95721210f4c9b3bd357091ee68a069.jpg

Presume Duval is one of Mellor's "interesting" drivers?

[RS]

Presume Duval is one of Mellor's "interesting" drivers?

I would still count Francois as interesting. He had a bad year and was surprisingly slow in the Punto on Sanremo, but they could do a lot worse than Francois Duval.

[Mirek]

For MEM it could be a bit dangerous choice as they could easily run out of cars...

[ProRally]

]For MEM it could be a bit dangerous choice as they could easily run out of cars...

Good one Mirek, you are so correct :D :D

Skoda will NEVER let Mr Duval drive a official Skoda again ... MEM will realize it soon too.... :D

[Barreis]

F.Duval is still one of the top drivers in the world.. He's just not motivated for IRC that much..

[Cloverleaf]

.. He's just not motivated for IRC that much..
That was good :D

[RS]

F.Duval is still one of the top drivers in the world.. He's just not motivated for IRC that much..

I don't believe that is true. He has competed in IRC several times and expressed his desire to do so too.

[Barreis]

If there's no WRC drive why not IRC..

[eloyf1]

Some say that Dani Solà is also on the chase for Proton, but he has been asked for some money...

[PLuto]

Team around Francois Duval is hardly working on his programme in IRC. And Francois is also very interested about it.

[noel157]

I would still count Francois as interesting. He had a bad year and was surprisingly slow in the Punto on Sanremo, but they could do a lot worse than Francois Duval.

When I used the word interesting I was quoting Chris Mellors rather than disparaging Dudu. See here:

http://www.crash.net/world+rally/news/154993/1/irc_proton_plans_two_car_assault_in_2010.html

If Duval and the car is reliable (and performing well) he's still a top driver.

[Barreis]

Top three on tarmac in the world..

[J.Lindstroem]

Top three on tarmac in the world..

Only tarmarc in the world? What about the tarmarc outside the world?

[Mirek]

Good one :D

[Barreis]

For me he's better then Sordo on tarmac..

[urabus-denoS2000]

For me he isnt ;)

[urabus-denoS2000]

For me Basso is far better ;)

[pettersolberg29]

Sordo is quicker than Duval on tarmac, Basso is equal. End of story in my eyes ;)

[RS]

Duval is for sure quick on tarmac but I am not sure about 3rd best in the world anymore.

His pace on Sanremo against Rossetti was quite poor, and Rossetti is probably a little slower than Basso. Then you have Kopecky, Meeke...

[Wittmanello]

No one knows what the problem in San Remo was - I personally dont think it was lack of driving skills...

[cut the b.s.]

Top three on tarmac in the world..

are you serious? A lot of a legend built on Germany 07 I think.
Also regarding motivation, utter nonsense Sir, real drivers cant help but be motivated when they get behind a wheel.

[Helstar]

In the Skoda .... in the Skoda ... Duval showed what he really is. Sad but true.

[macksrallye]

Duval has gone downhill very quickly since his season in the factory Citroen Xsara. He is still very capable but seems to be a little accident prone. I think if Chris Mellors get Duval in the car with other drivers like Loix not having a confirmed drive he seriousally needs to do some thinking.

[Barreis]

If he won WRC rally he musts be great..

[Simmi]

Duval has gone downhill very quickly since his season in the factory Citroen Xsara. He is still very capable but seems to be a little accident prone. I think if Chris Mellors get Duval in the car with other drivers like Loix not having a confirmed drive he seriousally needs to do some thinking.

When I see Duval I see a guy who has consistently failed to live up to his potential. The accidents speak for themselves, no matter what he was driving.

But saying all that I think Francois has a certain spark that a driver like Loix hasn't had for over ten years. What I mean by that is, for me, he has the raw ability to be right on the pace, and on his day be a match for anyone. Only problem is he is very seldom in this window of opportunity to do anything. And now he has also developed a negative reputation.

I still think of Duval as a quality driver. But a frustrating one like Latvala.

[Francis44]

I reckon he still can be faster than Loix, Loix had a dissapointing season. The 207 failed quite a few times but even when it was capable of going fast Loix couldn't be on the pace!!!!

[bluuford]

When I see Duval I see a guy who has consistently failed to live up to his potential. The accidents speak for themselves, no matter what he was driving.

But saying all that I think Francois has a certain spark that a driver like Loix hasn't had for over ten years. What I mean by that is, for me, he has the raw ability to be right on the pace, and on his day be a match for anyone. Only problem is he is very seldom in this window of opportunity to do anything. And now he has also developed a negative reputation.

I still think of Duval as a quality driver. But a frustrating one like Latvala.

Actually, when he was still in Ford, he was doing well. Then he was fast and more reliable. a few retirements were caused by new Ford (For example engine in Cyprus 2003, Tour de Corse in 2004). In Citroen 5 retirements from 15 rallies. If he gets longer term contract and feels more secure then he might get the confidence back.

[Mirek]

I reckon he still can be faster than Loix, Loix had a dissapointing season. The 207 failed quite a few times but even when it was capable of going fast Loix couldn't be on the pace!!!!

Actualy Loix was quite unhapy in Kronos since he often wasn't allowed to use his own setup in Kronos. Anyway Freddy is not like Meeke, but on his favorite events he's still able of fighting for victory (Ypres, Barum).

[Francis44]

]Actualy Loix was quite unhapy in Kronos since he often wasn't allowed to use his own setup in Kronos. Anyway Freddy is not like Meeke, but on his favorite events he's still able of fighting for victory (Ypres, Barum).

I understand, but even with that some rally's where he was fast past years, he wasn't able to do so this year.

Look at Rali Vinho Madeira, Loix and other Kronos drivers were too far of the pace seeing that the team own in Madeira before, and then they say it was setup problems. Yeah right....Who can they fail to set up the cars seeing they own earlier and the roads were the same??!!

[Mirek]

It's ridiculous but it realy was wrong setup for first leg. Those problems with a lot of understeer came with new suspension used since Acores I think.

[principe IRC]

The young Spanish driver Jonathan Perez will make some races in IRC or ERC (not yet known) in his Renault Clio R3.

http://www.lne.es/deportes/2009/12/07/objetivo-ano-aprender-llevamos-titulos/844570.html

The IRC/ERC program is false, it was an invention of journalists.
Sorry to inform you that fake news, today there is no rigorous information on the part of some journalists.

[noel157]

]It's ridiculous but it realy was wrong setup for first leg. Those problems with a lot of understeer came with new suspension used since Acores I think.

Agree, this was the case as one crew member confirmed to me.

[Tom206wrc]

Australian champions Evans(Simon and wife Sue)in IRC 2010 with 207 S2000 ???? :eek: :confused:
http://www.rallysportmag.com.au/


Edit: oops news already reported on thread :s

[Barreis]

To fight for a win in WRC and IRC is not the same..

[alleskids]

Fiat is considering returning for another season in the IRC with 3 drivers, starting in Monte Carlos, with Basso, Rossetti and Scandola. Alen has a contract for 2010, but apparently the management of Fiat does not have plans for him. The decision for the 2010 season will be taken in the days to come. Director Nicola Gullino be replaced by Gabrielle Palmitesta.

Nicolas Vouilloz is in contact with Skoada France for a limited program, starting also in Monte Carlo. He will test the Fabia S2000 this weekend.

[Simmi]

Fiat is considering returning for another season in the IRC with 3 drivers, starting in Monte Carlos, with Basso, Rossetti and Scandola. Alen has a contract for 2010, but apparently the management of Fiat does not have plans for him. The decision for the 2010 season will be taken in the days to come. Director Nicola Gullino be replaced by Gabrielle Palmitesta.

Nicolas Vouilloz is in contact with Skoada France for a limited program, starting also in Monte Carlo. He will test the Fabia S2000 this weekend.

Good news about Skoda and Nico. I like how the IRC brings out these national efforts that hark back to the good old days of rallying. Peugeot UK, Skoda France etc.

As for Abarth. Part of me thinks why bother.

I'd prefer them to take a year out and get a new car sorted for 2011 in the WRC. Otherwise they will just be making up the numbers in an outdated car and pull out a year later - basically delaying the inevitable.

[J.Lindstroem]

To fight for a win in WRC and IRC is not the same..

Man you are making the worst one liners ive ever seen. Seriously, dont fool yourself. In 2009, the competition in IRC was often harder and more qualitative than in WRC.

More drivers fighting for the win = more fight.

1+1=2.

Wrc was crap this year. IRC was not. Deal with it.

[RS]

So far I have heard Nicolas Vouilloz linked with:

- Works Abarth seat
- Proton
- Buying own 207
- Skoda

Hopefully one of them comes true :)

[Barreis]

Man you are making the worst one liners ive ever seen. Seriously, dont fool yourself. In 2009, the competition in IRC was often harder and more qualitative than in WRC.

More drivers fighting for the win = more fight.

1+1=2.

Wrc was crap this year. IRC was not. Deal with it.

Put any of this IRC drivers to beat Seb.Loeb in WRC..

[HaCo]

Put any of this IRC drivers to beat Seb.Loeb in WRC..

Well, start looking in WRC. ;)

Loeb is an incredible driver and he is far from the average WRC driver.

[J.Lindstroem]

Put any of this IRC drivers to beat Seb.Loeb in WRC..

Look at the rest of the field.

There are IRC-drivers that can beat Mikko, Sordo, Latvala, P.Solberg, H.Solberg, Wilson, Rautenbach, Ogier. Any day.

You can't say that i am totaly wrong.

[Cloverleaf]

I like how the IRC brings out these national efforts that hark back to the good old days of rallying. Peugeot UK, Skoda France etc.

:up:


As for Abarth. Part of me thinks why bother.

The car may not have the winning potential. But the drivers have.
I enjoy watching the massive efforts of Basso and Rosetti while they're trying to catch others with an uncompetitive car.

[pettersolberg29]

Look at the rest of the field.

There are IRC-drivers that can beat Mikko, Sordo, Latvala, P.Solberg, H.Solberg, Wilson, Rautenbach, Ogier. Any day.

You can't say that i am totaly wrong.

I don't want to start an IRC v. WRC (although I prefer the IRC as a rally fan) but in my opinion there are no drivers in the IRC who could beat Mikko, Loeb, Sordo, Solberg, Latvala or maybe Ogier and Henning.
There is a definate front 5 in the WRC (poss. 6 with Kimi) and these 5 are way above any other drivers in any other rally tournament in my view.

[Barreis]

I agree..

[Mirek]

Guys, please, stop this useless neverending WRC/IRC story at least in serious threads.

[pettersolberg29]

]Guys, please, stop this useless neverending WRC/IRC story at least in serious threads.

I did say that I didn't want to start an argument but just stated by belief. But here's a line drawn under it:

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[J.Lindstroem]

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[Simmi]

:up:

The car may not have the winning potential. But the drivers have.
I enjoy watching the massive efforts of Basso and Rosetti while they're trying to catch others with an uncompetitive car.

Yeah the one good thing is that it keeps good drivers in jobs with a works team too. But like I said in my previous post I only see it being a one year extension of the inevitable pull-out unless they take the plunge and sign off on a new car. I find it frustrating in that sense.

[PLuto]

There isnt written, that Abarth will start with Punto...

[pettersolberg29]

As you say Simmi, it is a couple more cars per event even if they're not brilliant. Drivers like Basso deserve better though really.

[alleskids]

The Procar team was impressed by Irishman Keith Cronin in Scotland, and they hope to continue with him in 2010 in the Grande Punto

[Alvaro_Rally]

I think the Abarth still have a good pace... actually it won some rallies last year.

I don´t know if the car will have any evolution for the next season but for me the main problem of the car is behid its steering wheel... for sure Basso is a very fast driver but they need a driver with international experience (Garde was the good one...).

[Barreis]

Rent of Evo 10 is half a prise of fabia s2000 for MC rally.. Cca..30000/60000 euros..

[Mirek]

I don´t know if the car will have any evolution for the next season but for me the main problem of the car is behid its steering wheel... for sure Basso is a very fast driver but they need a driver with international experience (Garde was the good one...).

It's opposite way unfortunately.

Basso was the only one to keep pace in Abarth in international competition (for the price of enormous risk). Even Rossetti's shinning star burnt out in Abarth. All others who drove works Abarth were nowhere near the top (Duval, Alen, Casier, Fuster, Scandola, Cronin or Sousa in PWRC). In fact there was no works Abarth as all official cars were run by Grifone and Procar.

[pettersolberg29]

Out of interest, will the Fiesta make more appearances this season? I know Ford aren't officially taking part in the IRC, but will privateers use it in the IRC or will they be forced to enter the S2000 WC in the WRC?

[Alvaro_Rally]

]It's opposite way unfortunately.

Basso was the only one to keep pace in Abarth in international competition (for the price of enormous risk). Even Rossetti's shinning star burnt out in Abarth. All others who drove works Abarth were nowhere near the top (Duval, Alen, Casier, Fuster, Scandola, Cronin or Sousa in PWRC). In fact there was no works Abarth as all official cars were run by Grifone and Procar.

I absolutely agree.

Actually the problem is that Basso is "alone" in Abarth, that´s why I think they need an experienced driver to be Basso´s team mate.

Only Basso (and disappointing Alen) has had a complete season with the Abarth. Why not a complete season for another "top driver" with experience in other S2000 cars? I´m sure it would be good for the car and the team.

[Tom206wrc]

Fiat is considering returning for another season in the IRC with 3 drivers, starting in Monte Carlos, with Basso, Rossetti and Scandola. Alen has a contract for 2010, but apparently the management of Fiat does not have plans for him. The decision for the 2010 season will be taken in the days to come. Director Nicola Gullino be replaced by Gabrielle Palmitesta.
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If only Racing Lions came with two 207s too for Ucci and Travaglia... :rolleyes:

[pettersolberg29]

It probably means nothing, but Eyvind Brynildsen and Stephane Sarrazin have both joined the Ramsport Team group on Facebook in the last day. Maybe a pair of Fiesta's for them in the IRC this year?

[AndyRAC]

It probably means nothing, but Eyvind Brynildsen and Stephane Sarrazin have both joined the Ramsport Team group on Facebook in the last day. Maybe a pair of Fiesta's for them in the IRC this year?

Stephane Sarrazin? Mmm, that's interesting. Surely as a Peugeot Le Mans/Sprtscar driver, they wouldn't let him drive a Ford, unless they were releasing him from his contract.

[urabus-denoS2000]

I joined the group aswell ;)

[alleskids]

I joined the group aswell ;)
and what car did they gave you? :roll:

[pettersolberg29]

Yeah, I thought Sarrazin was having a Pug 207 again this year, so thought it odd to see him join the Ramsport page.

What is more baffling is that urabus-denoS20000 is also rumoured to be getting a Fiesta. He joined the page as well so maybe a 3 car team with Sarrazin and Brynildsen?

[Barreis]

He (Urabus Deno) has Subaru..

[alleskids]

Luckily for him that Subaru joined the IRC, so he kan keep any point that he scores

[Tom206wrc]

It probably means nothing, but Eyvind Brynildsen and Stephane Sarrazin have both joined the Ramsport Team group on Facebook in the last day. Maybe a pair of Fiesta's for them in the IRC this year?



Sarrazin in a Ford ??? IMPOSSIBLE !! :rolleyes:

[urabus-denoS2000]

Yes it is true,I did join the group and they offered me a Fiesta S2000 but with the program starting in Brazil.My goal is to drive Monte so I will work on a private Subaru 1/10 Tamiya RC project on Monte ;)

[swordsman]

It probably means nothing, but Eyvind Brynildsen and Stephane Sarrazin have both joined the Ramsport Team group on Facebook in the last day. Maybe a pair of Fiesta's for them in the IRC this year?

A lot of people did :D

[bluuford]

Due to the lack of money, Urmo Aava is also considering a few races in IRC with S2000 car. There is currently no money for WRC starts.
He is currently one of the key persons behind Estonian IRC rally 2012 project as well.

[noel157]

Due to the lack of money, Urmo Aava is also considering a few races in IRC with S2000 car. There is currently no money for WRC starts.
He is currently one of the key persons behind Estonian IRC rally 2012 project as well.

Will it have IRC Supporter status next year or 2011?

[dimviii]

http://www.rallybuzz.com/sousa-ford-fiesta-s2000-livery/

[pettersolberg29]

That is a stunning looking car in my opinion. Look forward to seeing it in Sweden!

[Sulland]

The link is dead, did anyone keep a copy they can post ?

[MartijnS]

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2009/look/sousa2.jpg

[Madeira]

http://www.rallybuzz.com/sousa-ford-fiesta-s2000-livery/
I do not believe that can be the final livery of Sousa's Fiesta. If I'm correct this was a simple sketch made by a local designer...

[RICARDO75]

Yes, the design was made by Ricardo Nunes from Madeira. Bernardo Sousa already talked with the portuguese autosport, saying that design was not made from is team and those sponsors are not confirmed yet.

http://www.ricardonunesdesign.tk/

[bluuford]

Will it have IRC Supporter status next year or 2011?

Sorry, no information regarding that topic is not yet available.

[Simmi]

Autosport mag today has sources within the IRC saying the Wilks/Skoda UK deal is all sorted. So I think we can add him to the list of starters to the Monte now. Really good news.

[principe IRC]

Martinique Island Rally Champion 2009, Johan Heloise some races in IRC 2010 with TOP RUN Evo X.
But which will make, IRC (Eurosport) or IRC (Italian)?

http://www.toprunracing.com/

[PLuto]

Autosport mag today has sources within the IRC saying the Wilks/Skoda UK deal is all sorted. So I think we can add him to the list of starters to the Monte now. Really good news.

Yes, Wilks will do IRC this year with Skoda.

[Tom206wrc]

:cool:

[Sulland]

Mikkelsen will do IRC in 2010.

He still has not made a final decision on the Skoda or Ford question, but will have a meeting with M-sport in the near future.

He is not sure if he can make the deal in time to be able to drive MC, but hopes so.

[RS]

Mikkelsen will do IRC in 2010.

He still has not made a final decision on the Skoda or Ford question, but will have a meeting with M-sport in the near future.

He is not sure if he can make the deal in time to be able to drive MC, but hopes so.

:up: Great news. Hope to see him on Monte.

Much as I would love to see him a Fabia, it would be nice to see him in a Ford too so that we have a decent driver in a Fiesta for the season.

[principe IRC]

Martinique Island Rally Champion 2009, Johan Heloise some races in IRC 2010 with TOP RUN Evo X.
But which will make, IRC (Eurosport) or IRC (Italian)?

http://www.toprunracing.com/


The Italian team who run the brothers Agnello from Varese has confirmed the program will continue next season in the Intercontinental Rally Challenge with the young driver from the island of Martinique Johan Heloise, with whom speak at 5 dates IRC Championship and is a done with the Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X will debut at the legendary Monte Carlo Rally in late January next year and will almost certainly be one of the attractions that will bring the rally in Cordoba in Villa Carlos Paz in late March.
It should be mentioned that Alfonso, Antonio and Michele Agnello were very optimistic for the new project for 2010 and not yet decided whether there will be a 2nd order of the Japanese, it is rumored British Mark Higgins as a possible driver of the other Evo X to structure of the Top Run Racing.

Paul MACHI
http://www.rallyreportnews.com.ar
Photos: Press Top Run Racing / Italy

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