Montreal NW Race Thread

[Jonesi]

Entry List
Ent. Car # Driver Sponsor Man. Owner
1 0 David Green [PC1] sponsordavis.com 09 Chevy Johnny Davis
2 01 Mike Wallace TBA 09 Chevy Lori Morgan
3 1 Max Papis Miccosukee Indian Gaming & Resort 09 Chevy James Finch
4 5 Ron Fellows Fastenal 09 Chevy Rick Hendrick
5 05 TBA 31-W Insulation 07 Ford Wayne Day
6 6 Erik Darnell Northern Tool 09 Ford Jack Roush
7 07 Kris Szekeres TBA 09 Chevy Armando Fitz
8 09 Boris Said Zaxby's 09 Ford Jay Robinson
9 10 Justin Marks Future Electronics 08 Toyota Todd Braun
10 11 Andrew Ranger Ridemakerz 09 Toyota Bryan Mullet
11 12 Justin Allgaier Verizon Wireless 09 Dodge Tad Geschickter
12 15 Michael Annett Pilot Travel Centers 09 Toyota Bob Germain
13 16 Colin Braun 3M 09 Ford Jack Roush
14 18 Kyle Busch Interstate Batteries 09 Toyota Joe Gibbs
15 20 Brad Coleman BigSpot.com 09 Toyota Joe Gibbs
16 23 Jean Francois Dumoulin Mahindra 08 Chevy Johnny Davis
17 24 Eric McClure Hefty 09 Ford Ed Rensi
18 26 Brian Keselowski 2XL-Conelyauto.com 09 Dodge Dusty Whitney
19 27 Jason Keller Scott Towels 09 Ford Mike Curb
20 28 Kenny Wallace US Border Patrol 09 Chevy Jay Robinson
21 29 Stephen Leicht HOLIDAY INN 09 Chevy Richard Childress
22 31 Daryl Harr TBA 09 Chevy Stanton Barrett
23 32 Jacques Villeneuve Dollar General Stores 09 Toyota Todd Braun
24 33 J R Fitzpatrick TBA 09 Chevy Delana Harvick
25 34 Tony Raines Long John Silver's 09 Chevy Bob Jenkins
26 38 Jason Leffler Great Clips 08 Toyota Ralph Braun
27 40 Jeffrey Earnhardt TBA 09 Chevy Curtis Key Sr
28 41 Stanton Barrett Mathews Media 09 Chevy Rick Ware
29 47 Marcos Ambrose Armor All 09 Toyota Jodi Geschickter
30 49 Mark Green Get More Vacations.com 09 Chevy Jay Robinson
31 52 Tony Ave TBA 08 Chevy Jimmy Means
32 60 Carl Edwards CitiFinancial 09 Ford Jack Roush
33 61 D J Kennington Specialty Racing 09 Ford Charlie Shoffner
34 62 Brendan Gaughan US Fidelis 09 Chevy Rusty Wallace
35 66 Steve Wallace 5 Hour Energy 09 Chevy Rusty Wallace
36 75 Brett Rowe Imperial Bedding Company 09 Chevy Dana Tomes
37 81 Alex Tagliani TBA 09 Dodge Pat MacDonald
38 87 Mike Bliss NEMCO Motorsports 08 Chevy Andrea Nemechek
39 88 Brad Keselowski GoDaddy 09 Chevy Dale Earnhardt Jr
40 89 Morgan Shepherd Lagina Plumbing-Eldora Speedway 09 Chevy Cindy Shepherd
41 90 Chris Cook MSRP Motorsports 08 Chevy Marcia Parsons
42 91 Tom Hubert MSRP Motorsports 08 Chevy Randy Humphrey
43 96 Michael McDowell ConelyAuto.com 09 Dodge Kay Keselowski
44 98 Paul Menard Tarkett/Menards 09 Ford Max Jones
45 99 Patrick Carpentier NAPA 09 Toyota Michael Waltrip

[Lee Roy]

Should be a great race.

[Roamy]

Lets get ready to RUMBLE !!

[call_me_andrew]

Early weather report for Monteral:

Friday-68°F (20°C) mostly sunny, 10% chance of rain
Saturday-63°F (17°C) showers, 40% chance of rain
Sunday-68°F (20°C) showers, 40% chance of rain

[Oli_M]

I DONT want to strat the "should NASCAR use rain tires" with this question, but I do want to know the answer.....

Are the rain tires still an "available option" for the NW series? IE, if it rains, will the race run as per last year with a red flag period to change tires and add wipers? Or, will they (for example) postpone the race till later in the day/Monday?

[Lee Roy]

I DONT want to strat the "should NASCAR use rain tires" with this question, but I do want to know the answer.....

Are the rain tires still an "available option" for the NW series? IE, if it rains, will the race run as per last year with a red flag period to change tires and add wipers? Or, will they (for example) postpone the race till later in the day/Monday?

There should be information later this week when the Goodyear Tire Notes are published.

http://www.jayski.com/nationwide/2009/next/25montreal.htm#tire


Typically posted a day or two before the race.

[Jonesi]

I DONT want to strat the "should NASCAR use rain tires" with this question, but I do want to know the answer.....

Are the rain tires still an "available option" for the NW series? IE, if it rains, will the race run as per last year with a red flag period to change tires and add wipers? Or, will they (for example) postpone the race till later in the day/Monday?

I'm reasonably sure they will have rain tires, if needed. They had the tires at Watkins Glen but didn't use them. It's a tight schedule with GrandAm and Nascar Canada, so I'm sure it was planed with the expectation of rain tires.

[call_me_andrew]

Not only did they have rain tires at Watkins Glen, they had NEW rain tires.

This is what the old tires look like.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3072/2315226587_044839eda6.jpg

This is what the new tires look like.
http://media.scenedaily.com/images/watkins_glen_rain_tires_2.jpg

[Sparky1329]

Robby Gordon isn't racing. Bummer.

[MD24]

8 Canadians on the entry list :eek:

Weather forecast
http://www.theweathernetwork.com/weather/caqc0363

[harvick#1]

Robby Gordon isn't racing. Bummer.

and after Watkins Glen, I'm quite glad hes not racing this week

[Lee Roy]

Found this a jayski

http://jayski.com/nationwide/nationwide.htm


Rain in Montreal? The current [as of Thursday afternoon] forecast for Montreal shows a 70% chance for rain on Saturday and 30% on Sunday. NASCAR will again have rain tires on hand so they can get the race in as scheduled.(8-26-2009)

[Jonesi]

Robby Gordon isn't racing. Bummer.

I'm surprised he's not going to be there. I wonder if this is some sort of unannounced "double secret probation" from last year?

[call_me_andrew]

I'm not sure Goodyear and NASCAR can tolerate rain on both days. At Watkins Glen, they brought 600 rain tires and 1,500 slicks just for the Nationwide race (the Sprint Cup race had 2,000 slicks). 600 tires is enough to give every team 3 sets for the whole weekend, but that's it.

[Sparky1329]

I'm surprised he's not going to be there. I wonder if this is some sort of unannounced "double secret probation" from last year?

Nah. That's old news. He's racing in two places next weekend so I'm sure he just didn't have the time or inclination to do it all.

[Sparky1329]

and after Watkins Glen, I'm quite glad hes not racing this week

I suspect a few drivers who are racing there on Sunday are glad too. :D

For the record - NASCAR screwed Robby in Montreal. He was clearly in the lead when the yellow flag was shown. Marcos passed him under caution and NASCAR should've put Marcos back where he belonged. Robby knows NASCAR's rule book more thoroughly than they do and they don't seem to like having him tweak their noses when they're wrong.

[Mark in Oshawa]

Sparky,they may have gotten the call wrong on Robby, but they have ignored most of his stupidity of late so I figure the karma of Robby Gordon is back in some sort of equality with NASCAR.

I hope for no rain, but if it does, watch Ron Fellows go for 2, because he has the experience most of these guys don't have, includingBoris.

[Sparky1329]

Sparky,they may have gotten the call wrong on Robby, but they have ignored most of his stupidity of late so I figure the karma of Robby Gordon is back in some sort of equality with NASCAR.

I hope for no rain, but if it does, watch Ron Fellows go for 2, because he has the experience most of these guys don't have, includingBoris.

Robby filed an affidavit in support of NASCAR's position in the court case vs Mayfield. He, Jeff and Jimmie stated that they did not want to compete with somebody known to have tested positive for a banned substance. I figure that got him some brownie points with NASCAR. They hosed him by parking him at Pocono but gave him a lot of latitude at The Glen.

[call_me_andrew]

Wet qualifying was an unexpected treat. And the tires passed that test with flying colors.

[Jonesi]

Wet qualifying was an unexpected treat. And the tires passed that test with flying colors.

and now they have two sets for the race. Hopefully it will be either wet or dry, if the track is both in places those tires won't last very long.

[Sparky1329]

That was one of the coolest QF sessions I've ever seen.

[e2mtt]

Sparky,they may have gotten the call wrong on Robby, but they have ignored most of his stupidity of late so I figure the karma of Robby Gordon is back in some sort of equality with NASCAR.

I hope for no rain, but if it does, watch Ron Fellows go for 2, because he has the experience most of these guys don't have, includingBoris.

I don't think Ron or Boris is going to matter... not with Ambrose racing!

Jaques Villinue just made some great moves...

[e2mtt]

Way too many caution laps. This stinks.

[PA Rick]

Spin six times and still restart? Some guys have no idea what they're doing on wets.
Just throw the checker and go home before the series becomes the laughing stock of all racing.

[NickFalzone]

Good to see Edwards get it on the last corner. The number of yellows in the wet though makes me wonder how useful these rain tires are. Yes they were able to finish the race, which I suppose is better than red-flagging or stopping it, but maybe there needs to be a training program for the drivers to practice in wet conditions. Some of the moves out there were idiotic just a total lack of situational awareness or just a complete lack of respect for other drivers.

[muggle not]

Enough for rain tires in nascar, that was terrbile racing.

Feel sorry for ambrose, without a doubt he was the class of the field today.

[call_me_andrew]

The rain tires worked just fine. Qualifying proved that. The only problem with that race was dirty drivers with more greed than common sense.

[muggle not]

The rain tires worked just fine. Qualifying proved that. The only problem with that race was dirty drivers with more greed than common sense.
Same drivers as always, except for some what used to be ringers, but no more. Geez, a driver like carl winning against all those road racers. :)

[MD24]

I left the race with about 20 laps to go when the rain started. I never thought they would finish the race.
We had great seats, last row of our section but OMG was it ever windy.
Watching the race at times was frustating with all the caution laps.
I was highly impressed with Andrew Ranger.

[Jonesi]

The rain tires worked just fine. Qualifying proved that. The only problem with that race was dirty drivers with more greed than common sense.

I didn't think there was really dirty driving as much as unrealistic expectations as to how many cars can fit through a turn in wet conditions.

[Mark in Oshawa]

The main issue I see isn't rain tires, it is brain dead aggressive drivers. That....and this track is like Martinsville on roids...tight and too easy to overdrive.

The rain tires would NOT be the hassle EXCEPT NASCAR wont just let the guys come in as it starts to rain and put them on, they red flagged the show and made a big production and restart out of it. A joke....

[Mark in Oshawa]

PS..I know Allgaier is a great guy...but WHY did he have to do what he did to my man Ron Fellows there.....man that just sucked....

[call_me_andrew]

Same drivers as always, except for some what used to be ringers, but no more. Geez, a driver like carl winning against all those road racers. :)

Yes, and how many Nationwide races don't end with a plethora of crashes these days?

Marcos Ambrose at Montreal has now become the racing equivalent of Charlie Brown and the football.

[Mark in Oshawa]

Yes, and how many Nationwide races don't end with a plethora of crashes these days?

Marcos Ambrose at Montreal has now become the racing equivalent of Charlie Brown and the football.

Andrew, he did it to himself on that one. He had Carl beat if he just concentrated on driving the race car out the front window as opposed to the back. Too busy being defensive and trying to hold Carl off when he had the sheer speed if he just ignored Carl.

One thing is for sure, it ensures Marcos is back next year....which is a GREAT thing because we love him in Canada...if a Canadian cant win, we never mind seeing an Aussie do well.

[harvick#1]

you live by the curb, you die by the curb, Marcos has no one to blame but himself.

did anyone know what happened to J.R. Fitspatrick, he was 7th before the rain?

also with Justin taking out Fellows, it happens, he wheelhopped into the corner and had no control, Ron was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

it was pretty funny how Marcos was all on the radio about RAnger being aggressive, but there were no marks on his car, while everyone else looked like they were at Martinsville

[muggle not]

Yeah, I like ambrose but he flat out was looking in the mirror when he should've had his eyes out front. He blew a sure win.

[Lee Roy]

I didn't think there was really dirty driving as much as unrealistic expectations as to how many cars can fit through a turn in wet conditions.

Yep.

I think it would help if they went back to single file restarts on a wet track. It might help to cut down on the bunching up in the first few corners.

[Roamy]

I left the race with about 20 laps to go when the rain started. I never thought they would finish the race.
We had great seats, last row of our section but OMG was it ever windy.
Watching the race at times was frustating with all the caution laps.
I was highly impressed with Andrew Ranger.

Ranger is quite good.
I do think JV was very conservative as he really needed to "finish" a race in a good position.

[Mark in Oshawa]

JV wants to get into NASCAR. Cant get people to listen when you tear up equipment...

[Roamy]

He should be quite good with a full deal.