Swedish Rally 2010

[EavesFan09]

Why is it every time I click on a driver in the split times the rest changes?

[Langdale Forest]

So you can compare the other drivers.

[malscar]

How are split times calculated?

Same as the splits you see on the F1. Total time from the start of a stage to a particular point, normally about every 5 km (also usually have a radio point at the same spot). Then just the difference between the times each driver does.

[kolvas]

Why is it every time I click on a driver in the split times the rest changes?
when you click on a driver you sets its time to referens

[kolvas]

according Swedish radio PG is slowing down and not pushing so hard as he can

[Viking]

Why is it every time I click on a driver in the split times the rest changes?

what about reading the text above the splits??

[kolvas]

Has Kimi been of again?

[jonkka]

OMG - "And Barry is on a journey to discover that my mouse is not a microphone" says Dilbert while on background Barry yells "Hello" at the mouse.

[EavesFan09]

when you click on a driver you sets its time to referens

I compared Grondholm to Loeb and the first 2 points they were identical. Marcus did go well.

[Langdale Forest]

Don't think so.

[jonkka]

what about reading the text above the splits??

Reading is mandatory, comprehension is optional. - Calvin & Hobbes

[EavesFan09]

what about reading the text above the splits??

Beyond me that! :p : :D

[Langdale Forest]

This is what it says on the split page of wrc.com ;)



'
Split times are available on many - but not all - of the stages in the WRC. If they are being recorded we'll show them here.
The number of points at which split times are taken and the distance between them depends on the length of the stage. The table below shows the time for each driver as they reach each split point, as well as their total stage time.
Clicking on a driver's name (in orange) will enable you to compare his or her split times to those of the other drivers. Faster times are shown in green, slower ones in red.'

[EavesFan09]

Don't think so.

They were both 43.0 through the first point and 3:11.2 through the second point. Indeed it is +0.0 for Grondholm through the first two points.

[ShiftingGears]

Whats with these split times? If I go by the split times it says Raikkonen lost 23 seconds to Loeb in the stage.. but if I go by the final stage time, it says he lost a minute.

[kolvas]

Whats with these split times? If I go by the split times it says Raikkonen lost 23 seconds to Loeb in the stage.. but if I go by the final stage time, it says he lost a minute.

he was 23 seconds at the last split but after that something must happend to him and he lost almost 1 minut

[EavesFan09]

Whats with these split times? If I go by the split times it says Raikkonen lost 23 seconds to Loeb in the stage.. but if I go by the final stage time, it says he lost a minute.

Technical problems between point 3 and the end perhaps?

[ShiftingGears]

he was 23 seconds at the last split but after that something must happend to him and he lost almost 1 minut

Ah. It's impractical that they don't show the times from the last split to the finish. Poorly thought out.

[jonkka]

Next stage is on

[Mirek]

Any info from Swedish radio what were Sääv's problems in last stage?

[EavesFan09]

Next stage is on

Says next car to start SS12 on 11:58 but I think that has been revised.

[pino makinen]

Morning guys. Sorry to ask again for the czech web showing split results. Can't find it. Thanks.

[jonkka]

Mikko is stepping up - JML would need too

[Raini]

Morning guys. Sorry to ask again for the czech web showing split results. Can't find it. Thanks.

http://www.ewrc-results.com/results_main.php?event=573&stage=10313&category=&group=&section=

[EavesFan09]

Loeb 0.1 slower than Hirvonen at the final split.

[kolvas]

]Any info from Swedish radio what were Sääv's problems in last stage?
No

[dimviii]

nice battle!

[White Sauron]

Nice close fight between Mikko and Seb. Even though I don't like to see Seb so close to Mikko overall))

[EavesFan09]

Sordo +3.9 slower than Hirvonen through split point 3. Trouble with Sordo's car? Hit a snow bank it seems.

[awake27]

Sordo lost a couple of seconds at the end of the stage!

[EavesFan09]

JML struggling with the car. 22.7 secs diff between Latvala and Sordo.

[kolvas]

Sordo lost a couple of seconds at the end of the stage!
Sordo had a spin according Swedish radio

[Wim_Impreza]

Thanks for the info Wim!!! ;) It seems that all the Dutch crews got stuck in snowbanks... :p

Yes, only Peter van Merksteijn jr. wasn't in a snowbank. ;)

[Viking]

Sordo had a spin

[dimviii]

lets see im Gro can repeat the last stage good result.

[EavesFan09]

Balance in Loebs car is bad. Twitchy in high speed sections.

[White Sauron]

If this rally so far can serve as a kinda reflection of the season ahead, I believe we'll witness an even more fascinating fight for the title this season than it was last year!

[dimviii]

lets see im Gro can repeat the last stage good result.

maybe it was an one off :D

[dimviii]

If this rally so far can serve as a kinda reflection of the season ahead, I believe we'll witness an even more fascinating fight for the title this season than it was last year!
fingers crossed :)

[EavesFan09]

Wilson next through. A massive 14secs shy of Hennig Solberg through split 3??

Solberg 8:32.2 and Wilson 8:47.6

[N.O.T]

nothing really changed...

Where is Kimmi ??

[EavesFan09]

Eleven secs behind Loeb was Grondholm who comes in 4th fastest acording to WRC.com. This should be faster than Hennig Solberg.

[White Sauron]

Sorry for whinning again, guys, but I'm kinda irritated with Latvala. Last year he crashed all the time, and this time he's slower than even Gronholm who hasn't driven for almost 2 years. What's the use of such a 2nd driver? Only his age? But there's a bunch of young drivers with natural fuel in blood, but with a cool head on their shoulders!!

[pettersolberg29]

Mr. Eaves - It's Gronholm. Sorry to be pedantic, but it's a tad annoying.

[kolvas]

nothing really changed...

Where is Kimmi ??

Don´t know, haven´t heard anything on swedish radio but he lost 1 min in the last section on SS10, maybe technical issues?

[kolvas]

Sääv hit a snowbank and filled the airintake with snow, it cost them about 7 min

[Mirek]

Thanks a lot

[bluuford]

I watched Kimis yesterdays incident. He was driving on the straight and suddenly car just died out. Then they stopped on the side of the road on a narrow place and when they got going again he just went straight in a junction kind of corner possibly distracted by the technical problems he just experienced.

[kolvas]

Tuohino and Mikkelsen got a tuff fight

Has Kimi retired?

[tolis]

@Kolvas:No, Kimi finished 11th in SS11...
Sorry if it was written before, but what happened to Tanak???

[Viking]

Brynildsen finds some pace, swrc stage win

[Mirek]

He still has a chance to catch Sandell.

[Wim_Impreza]

@Kolvas:No, Kimi finished 11th in SS11...
Sorry if it was written before, but what happened to Tanak???

Tänak lost some minutes in a snowbank in SS7.

[Mauri A]

Kimi started to talk, or was it Lindström?

[Barreis]

It's bad You have to pay to watch WRC these days.. Very bad..

[jonkka]

It's bad You have to pay to watch WRC these days.. Very bad..

Where's that so? We get free coverage still.

[r199]

haha R Kuipers fastest on stage 11

looks nice only a shame i know that is wrong

1.
66
R. KUIPERS
7:49.8
0.0
0.0

2.
1
S. LOEB
10:27.4
+2:37.6
+2:37.6

3.
3
M. HIRVONEN
10:27.6
+0.2
+2:37.8

4.
4
J. LATVALA
10:38.1
+10.5
+2:48.3

5.
5
M. GRÖNHOLM
10:38.4
+0.3
+2:48.6

[tolis]

Thanks again Wim!!! What a battle for third place of PWRC!!! Last year's champion, Armindo Araujo only 0.2 sec behind Martin Semerad!!! Although it seems that Armindo speeded up in SS11.

[Barreis]

Where's that so? We get free coverage still.

No Eurosport.. For MotorsTV videocard is nedeed..

[Tomi]

No Eurosport.. For MotorsTV videocard is nedeed..

dont you have any domestic channels in Croatia?

[Francis44]

dont you have any domestic channels in Croatia?

Here In Portugal, the channel is SportV, and it's payed.

We pay 70 euro monthly for the videobox and channels subsricpton, and for the SportV channel they ask you for more 30 euros, and that's a robbery.
Plus in that channel you pay and get to see tons of minutes of adds, it's ridicously.

[Mirek]

Tomi: You lucky Finns, are quite a rally nation, it's much worse with coverage in most of other countries. Here WRC event coverage is on Sport 5 which is also paid channel (and last year it wasn't even there).

[jonkka]

Mikko loses more on short super specials than he gains over longer stages... :eek:

He's still traumatized by SSS retirement in 1000 Lakes years ago??

[darkstar]

why does hirvonen looese so mutch time on that stupid spectator stages?

[Barreis]

dont you have any domestic channels in Croatia?

Yes we have it but without rallying.. Football is our national sport.. xd

[Tomi]

]Tomi: You lucky Finns, are quite a rally nation, it's much worse with coverage in most of other countries. Here WRC event coverage is on Sport 5 which is also paid channel (and last year it wasn't even there).

i know, but it might help if complaine and put pressure on those who can do something about it, like national tv channels, a huge e-mail campaigne might help, a few tousand e-mails every day for a month or so :)

[pettersolberg29]

Something must be wrong with Petter. He may not be 'up there' anymore, but his normal pace certainly isn't slower than Wilson, or 8s slower than Loeb in a SSS.

Maybe it's just the snow he hates in a C4? Mexico will show a lot - if he's still this slow then he's lost it. If he's up and around the top then the jury is still out.

[Woodeye]

nothing really changed...

Where is Kimmi ??

Hard to tell. Who is Kimmi?

[N.O.T]

i mean the raikonen kid...

[Tomi]

Mikko loses more on short super specials than he gains over longer stages... :eek:

He's still traumatized by SSS retirement in 1000 Lakes years ago??

maybe he is using the launch system, bosse complained about it, the car dont take off.

[Woodeye]

i mean the raikonen kid...

Aha. So you mean RÄIKKÖNEN?

[Mauri A]

Aha. So you mean RÄIKKÖNEN?
Don´t worry, it´s our old friend nuotti!

[EavesFan09]

Interesting. We have a sprint race. Hirovenen dissapointing in 5th. I think 0.6 seconds slower than Sordo.

[pettersolberg29]

It's not really a sprint. Just called Hagfors Sprint. It's actually very, very slow and twisty.

[darkstar]

does the following stages start at normal time? or is the delay still in it?

[WRCfan]

44 minutes later than what is on the schedule...

[EavesFan09]

It's not really a sprint. Just called Hagfors Sprint. It's actually very, very slow and twisty.

It is the shortest distance of the day. Seems like you don't get split times with this one which is a mystery.

[darkstar]

44 minutes later than what is on the schedule...

thx!

[Simmi]

It is the shortest distance of the day. Seems like you don't get split times with this one which is a mystery.

It's not even 2kms long what would be the point?

[Mirek]

PG had a spin in the last corner of SSS.

[EavesFan09]

Kimmi and Wilson post exactly the same time (2:11.0). Nice to see a Stobart Motorsport car on the same pace as a Citroen car.

[Mauri A]

It's not even 2kms long what would be the point?
To get the money from the spectators!

[John V]

44 minutes later than what is on the schedule...
Don't forget there is regrouping now, so it can be 32 min delay for SS13 (edit - there must be one minute between passing TC's at least :-) )

[Simmi]

To get the money from the spectators!

No I was refering to the fact there were no mid-stage split times.

[Mauri A]

Hirvonen had to start his car manually at the start of Hagfors stage. Looks like Ford´s launch system has problems.

[darkstar]

no splits unfortunately...

[pettersolberg29]

Shouldn't SS13 have started by now or have I misread the new timetable?

Edit: there we go.

[darkstar]

yes its runung and splits are coming in now

[pettersolberg29]

Loeb going well. May catch Mikko this stage. Perhaps 1st on the road is hindering them?

Edit again: Perhaps not. Loeb +0.7s

[White Sauron]

I don't like this new trend...

[darkstar]

mikko now faster in the end, great!

[Simmi]

It's just an observation. But does the splits page on wrc.com really need to feature five .gif advertisements. I mean for a page that you need to refresh quickly that's hardly ideal is it. It should also be self-refreshing but that is obviously asking way too much.

But I suppose since when has wrc.com actually given a s**t about rally fans.

[jonkka]

It's just an observation. But does the splits page on wrc.com really need to feature five .gif advertisements. I mean for a page that you need to refresh quickly that's hardly ideal is it.

True - but it's same layout for whole site so maybe they can't help it even if they wanted to. I've been led to believe that a new site is on it's way...

[Mauri A]

Loeb: tyres are completely destroyed.

[pettersolberg29]

I know! The adverts are a real pain. Surely they could be simpler and fewer in number?

[N.O.T]

Aha. So you mean RÄIKKÖNEN?

yes this one....but i cannot put those little dots above letters

[Mauri A]

New orders from Wilson Sr? Latvala took 11 secs from Sordo.

[jonkka]

yes this one....but i cannot put those little dots above letters

Yes you can - if you want to.

I am guessing because I don't know your keyboard layout but try:
-press key on 2nd row and 2nd from the right (next to Enter, bearing markings like "¨", "^" and "~")
-then press A
Voilá!

Then you can even write Citroën if I you like to.

[snellman]

New orders from Wilson Sr? Latvala took 11 secs from Sordo.
awesome :cool:

[pettersolberg29]

Good pace by Marcus

edit: now stopped for puncture

[dimviii]

Gronholm faster till now

[Mirek]

Bosse stopped with a puncture according to the radio.

[dimviii]

GRÖNHOLM M. / RAUTIAINEN T. (st. č. 5) Puncture reported / Hlášen defekt :mad:

[Simmi]

True - but it's same layout for whole site so maybe they can't help it even if they wanted to. I've been led to believe that a new site is on it's way...

If they were really bothered they would have a popout self refreshing window for stage times and splits. So not something confined to the layout of the standard news pages. This shouldn't be a difficult thing to achieve. Sure it would take a bit of effort but it would be nice to see them actually valuing something more than their leecher advertisers. You dont see this stuff when you follow the F1 splits. Why should we be stuck with a third-rate service?

I thought the new site was supposed to come online for the start of the new season? It's all just broken promises and lack of imagination.

[Tomi]

Really nice to see Bosse on the pace, in a customer car when the rally is still on.

[White Sauron]

Yes you can - if you want to.

I am guessing because I don't know your keyboard layout but try:
-press key on 2nd row and 2nd from the right (next to Enter, bearing markings like "¨", "^" and "~")
-then press A
Voilá!

Then you can even write Citroën if I you like to.

Cyrillic keyboards don't have such letters. But you're right, when I write in Finnish, I use the key you mentioned to put dots.

[jonkka]

Cyrillic keyboards don't have such letters. But you're right, when I write in Finnish, I use the key you mentioned to put dots.

Alternative method - press ALT and keep it pressed while you type one of the following numbers on number keypad. Then release ALT.

ä = 132
Ä = 142
ö = 148
Ö = 153

[Tom206wrc]

Poor Bosse !!! What an unluck for his return ;(

[N.O.T]

none of these things work so raikonen kid stays....different keyboard layouts...

[N.O.T]

a stage win i think would be very nice for Gronholm....but ok bad things happen in rallying he still has some stages to do it.

[pettersolberg29]

Another stage win in the S2000 category for Mikkelsen. Petter into points now though.

Anyone know why Marcus lost 7 mins? A puncture only takes 2 mins at most normally.

[tolis]

@N.O.T.: Another way is to copy the name RÄIKKÖNEN and paste it when you want... ;)

[Tomi]

a stage win i think would be very nice for Gronholm....but ok bad things happen in rallying he still has some stages to do it.

next stage he take.

[N.O.T]

how old is wilson ?

[tolis]

Matthew Wilson was born in 29/01/1987.

[pettersolberg29]

23? Something like that.

[Iskald]

Another stage win in the S2000 category for Mikkelsen. Petter into points now though.


Still no mention of Mikkelsen at wrc.com, but everyone can see from results that he is having a great fight with Tuohino. Took his third stage win now, but just a few tenths ahead of PG. Stretches his lead to Tuohino, though.
But its really just plain stupid that wrc.com simply ignores Andreas Mikkelsen. I think the guys writing the stuff call themselves journalists. Prostitutes is maybe a better description...

[N.O.T]

next stage should be on any moment now.

[N.O.T]

Still no mention of Mikkelsen at wrc.com, but everyone can see from results that he is having a great fight with Tuohino. Took his third stage win now, but just a few tenths ahead of PG. Stretches his lead to Tuohino, though.
But its really just plain stupid that wrc.com simply ignores Andreas Mikkelsen. I think the guys writing the stuff call themselves journalists. Prostitutes is maybe a better description...

ooooh come on don;t use bad words.... it makes me sad.

[N.O.T]

do we have a delay ?

[jonkka]

do we have a delay ?

44 mins - same as with previous stage...

[pettersolberg29]

Next stage is 16:13 Swedish time. Remember +44min delay for all stages

[pettersolberg29]

Still no mention of Mikkelsen at wrc.com, but everyone can see from results that he is having a great fight with Tuohino. Took his third stage win now, but just a few tenths ahead of PG. Stretches his lead to Tuohino, though.
But its really just plain stupid that wrc.com simply ignores Andreas Mikkelsen. I think the guys writing the stuff call themselves journalists. Prostitutes is maybe a better description...

I agree completely. Just because he isn't fighting in the championship he's not mentioned. He is the second best driver in an S2000 car, only behind PG which isn't shameful at all.
So far, PG, Mikkelsen and Sordo join Ogier as my pleasant surprise of the rally. All 4 way ahead of expectation, or in PG's case performing so highly he needs a mention.

[Tomi]

Lol, the rally radio is a real amusment :D

[Mauri A]

Anyone know why Marcus lost 7 mins? A puncture only takes 2 mins at most normally.[/QUOTE]
Must be more than a puncture because he lost much on the latter part of the stage.

[Mirek]

Still no mention of Mikkelsen at wrc.com, but everyone can see from results that he is having a great fight with Tuohino. Took his third stage win now, but just a few tenths ahead of PG. Stretches his lead to Tuohino, though.
But its really just plain stupid that wrc.com simply ignores Andreas Mikkelsen. I think the guys writing the stuff call themselves journalists. Prostitutes is maybe a better description...

It has always been like that with wrc.com and any non-registred driver. They just keep ignoring them.

[Langdale Forest]

When is the next stage on?

[Tomi]

Anyone know why Marcus lost 7 mins? A puncture only takes 2 mins at most normally.
Must be more than a puncture because he lost much on the latter part of the stage.[/QUOTE]

but the argue about who change usually takes around 5 mins, or maybe they have already forgot how to change.

[Mirek]

Short video from day 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emMRj9X-CNs

[Iskald]

ooooh come on don;t use bad words.... it makes me sad.

Hehe, you`re a true comedian, N.O.T. :laugh: I`ll remember this for the future - not to make you sad.
What was the bad word, btw? ;)

[Hipo1990]

"Marcus Grönholm was fastest after the second split time but a flat tire spoiled any chance of a top spot. Grönholm lost over seven minutes.
- We were not in a hurry changing the tire. We took it easy, Grönholm said with a laugh after the special stage." from rallysweden.com

[Mauri A]

When is the next stage on?
You could sometimes also read this forum and not only write!

[Iskald]

]It has always been like that with wrc.com and any non-registred driver. They just keep ignoring them.

No reason for us to accept it. Is this a World Championship rally - or is it a wrc.com rally?

[Tomi]

No reason for us to accept it. Is this a World Championship rally - or is it a wrc.com rally?

but there is many drivers not mentioned, Ketomäki was leading grN yesterday before retirment, i dont think he was mentioned a single time.

[N.O.T]

as long as they mention kimmi kid and block when he competes they are fine for me...this what rallying needs not drivers with more dots above their names than letters....we need exposure people so forget your little heros.

[Francis44]

as long as they mention kimmi kid and block when he competes they are fine for me...this what rallying needs not drivers with more dots above their names than letters....we need exposure people so forget your little heros.

Sarcasm, dear sarcasm!!!!

[Langdale Forest]

I copy those letters like ö and ë
into word pad to copy&paste into my posts. ;)


Räikkönen

[Tom206wrc]

Bring on SS14 now :bounce:

[Langdale Forest]

2 mins to go!

[Mauri A]

Bosse has found his speed and his sence of humour, I think he´ll be disappointed if he´s not fastest on Sågen!

[Francis44]

Mikko Already in the stage.

[N.O.T]

Hirvonen just a few tenths faster than this morning..

[Langdale Forest]

Loeb is quicker than Mikko

[Tomi]

Bosse, Bosse, Bosse, Bosse, now attack. :D

[Ondra WRC]

What happened Kresta? :confused:

[Perra71]

On the Swedish rallyradio they have actually talked to Mikkelsen at the end of almost every stage so far.
To sum up his comments so far is easy "flat out" :)

[Langdale Forest]

Sordo fastest on 1st split.
He has the pace on snow.

[N.O.T]

retired...no reason given

[N.O.T]

the tyres of LOeb have nothing left....he lost 2.4 seconds

[Francis44]

Loeb losing 2.4 seconds on second split.

[Langdale Forest]

Do they have to do another stage on those tyres?

[jonkka]

retired...no reason given

What's wrong with you this year? Where's the good ol' negative NOT?

[EavesFan09]

Loeb 6.1 down at 3rd split.

Hiroven is 5:21.1 and Loeb 5:26.2. Loeb has new tyres on though for next stage.

[Mauri A]

Sordo fastest on 1st split.
He has the pace on snow.
Is there snow or gravel?

[jonkka]

Do they have to do another stage on those tyres?

Yes

[N.O.T]

Loeb is slower than his morning pass....i guess he is afraid of a puncture

[Langdale Forest]

Gravel with bits of snow on it I guess.

[White Sauron]

MAybe Loeb's saving tyres for the next, longer, stage???

[N.O.T]

8 seconds lost overall...

[Langdale Forest]

Yes

Are Mikko's tyres ok?

[White Sauron]

Are Mikko's tyres ok?

Judging by his comment "tyres gone" - not...((

[jonkka]

Are Mikko's tyres ok?

That I do n.o.t know.

[N.O.T]

What's wrong with you this year? Where's the good ol' negative NOT?

you think i am losing my touch........?

[Langdale Forest]

Where do they get the new tyres from?

[N.O.T]

LOEB S. / ELENA D."Think Mikko put new tyres on, I din't. Maybe mistake."

[EavesFan09]

What damage was done to Sordo's tyres?

Wilson faster than Solberg through 1st split.

[White Sauron]

you think i am losing my touch........?

Yeah, you've been backing off much recently))

[jonkka]

you think i am losing my touch........?

Looks that way, yes.

[Langdale Forest]

Latvala is trying to save his tyres.

[N.O.T]

Latvala is going to pass sordo tommorow easily.

[EavesFan09]

Latvala is trying to save his tyres.

Think he will drive out of his skin tomorrow?

Loeb has 6 stage wins under his belt and Mexico may be Citroen territory.

[jonkka]

Wilson faster than Hirvonen on split 1? That's classic N.O.T material, brace yourselves for a sick dog attack...

[jonkka]

Think he will drive out of his skin tomorrow?

Tomorrow - they will have new tyres.

[alexlake]

I just wish a few more drivers were as fast a loeb and mikko, because those two are really on it, and to be honest, about as fast as each other. How exciting would it be if we had 4 drivers of the same speed!

[Ondra WRC]

what happened Kresta? :confused:

[Langdale Forest]

Think he will drive out of his skin tomorrow?

Probably N.O.T, Malcolm Wilson will want him to finish in 4th.

[pettersolberg29]

On tarmac Sordo may be right at the top. On gravel Petter may on a couple of rallies.

[Iskald]

Where do they get the new tyres from?

The tyre factory.

[pettersolberg29]

What a charge by Wilson! Faster than Loeb?

No - +0.2s

[EavesFan09]

Wilson faster than Hirvonen on split 1? That's classic N.O.T material, brace yourselves for a sick dog attack...

N.O.T?

[Langdale Forest]

How exciting would it be if we had 4 drivers of the same speed!

Petter Solberg should be fighting for the lead, but he doesen't anymore. :(

[Langdale Forest]

N.O.T?

N.O.T is a member! ;)

[Simmi]

Some good high quality discussion on the forum today lol!

[N.O.T]

from the comments the drivers did i think some chnaged tyres before this stage and some others will change after this one....

[Langdale Forest]

Superb frist split for Grönholm!

[EavesFan09]

Some good high quality discussion on the forum today lol!

I just report what I hear on the radio commentary and on wrc.com! :D

Mads Osberg had an off somewhere it seems.

[Iskald]

What a complete rubbish time from H. Solberg on Sågen. 30 seconds behind, 2 sec/km. Something happened?

[jonkka]

Some good high quality discussion on the forum today lol!

Improvement from 2009? Then quality was the same but there was less of discussion.

[Langdale Forest]

Gronholm is on a charge!

[jonkka]

Marcus seems to want the SS win?

[N.O.T]

SOLBERG H. / MINOR I. "I will change tyres after this stage, we will see."

OGIER S. / INGRASSIA J. "Same like Sebastien Loeb, we will see at the end of the day, if it's good strategy."

[N.O.T]

the rusty old monster attacks....

[Mauri A]

The tyre factory.
No, from the boot!

[EavesFan09]

Gronholm is on a charge!

Up there with Sordo, Loeb, Latvala and Hiroven at the 1st split.

ONE SECOND QUICKER THAN MIKKO!! Got to be in the 7.14's.

[HaCo]

Are they delayed?

[N.O.T]

45 minutes delay yes...

[Langdale Forest]

the rusty old monster attacks....

He is nice and shiny now! :D

[jonkka]

Marcus wins the stage!

[N.O.T]

its the first stage win for Mr MArcus well done.....

[White Sauron]

So the big question of this evening is whether Loeb's strategy allows him to take back more time from Mikko on Fredriksberg than he lost on Sagen... What are your bets, colleagues?)

[Langdale Forest]

Do you think he will come back for Finland?

[N.O.T]

So the big question of this evening is whether Loeb's strategy allows him to take back more time from Mikko on Fredriksberg than he lost on Sagen... What are your bets, colleagues?)

i bet mikko did the right thing....

[Mauri A]

Marcus wins the stage!
What did I say!!!!!!

[EavesFan09]

Marcus wins the stage!

I was right. Did 7:14.15.


Up there with Sordo, Loeb, Latvala and Hiroven at the 1st split.

ONE SECOND QUICKER THAN MIKKO!! Got to be in the 7.14's.

[Langdale Forest]

All theese tyre stratiges are confusing me! :s

[jonkka]

So the big question of this evening is whether Loeb's strategy allows him to take back more time from Mikko on Fredriksberg than he lost on Sagen... What are your bets, colleagues?)

Well, I don't think it's much difference in stage distance (14.23 vs 18.15 km) but given that Sagen stage is faster, maybe new tyres help on what's supposedly more twisty Fredriksberg stage. Also, Loeb usually is able to pull rabbits out of his hat. I predict that he'll take back more than he just lost but not enough to take the lead.

[jonkka]

And mind you, it's not four new tyres - just two spares that'll they change to back.

[Simmi]

So the big question of this evening is whether Loeb's strategy allows him to take back more time from Mikko on Fredriksberg than he lost on Sagen... What are your bets, colleagues?)

Yep this is the million dollar question. Mikko seems to think his tyres are spent so lets see. Not sure whether Seb can take 8secs out of him but I'm sure he'll try. I'd say he's good for around 1.5secs on the short stage too so it could close up nicely.

And well done to Marcus for the SS win!

[pettersolberg29]

Good time for Al-Qassami too. Only 2s off Ogier and 10s quicker than Ostberg and Henning.

[Langdale Forest]

Dissapointing stage for Räikkönen, or is it just those tyres?

[Langdale Forest]

what happened Kresta? :confused:

He has retired, but the reason remains unknown.

[EavesFan09]

Good time for Al-Qassami too. Only 2s off Ogier and 10s quicker than Ostberg and Henning.

+8.3 on Mads to be exact.

[GigiGalliNo1]

I hope Motors TV will explain the Tyre strategies well :p :p :p

bahahaha

[EavesFan09]

Prokop and Sandell level at Split 1 but Prokop just shades it after Split 2. Prokop 5:47.8 after final split. I expect Sandell to be around 5:50 or 5.51 mark.

[Simmi]

I hope Motors TV will explain the Tyre strategies well :p :p :p

bahahaha

The big issue of the day. I doubt they will even mention it.

[Iskald]

No, from the boot!

Oh, the good old tyre boat. ;)

[Perra71]

The tirerules are that have a specific amount of tires for the entire rally and usually have 2 spare tires in the booth.
How many tires, anyone?

[pettersolberg29]

Battle between Tuohino and Mikkelsen getting better and better. Only 4.6s between them in Andreas' favour.

[EavesFan09]

Tuohino quicker than Hennig Sollberg. Tuohino pulls a 7:44.1 to Solberg's 7:45.9. PGA one second slower with 7:45.9.

[Mauri A]

I´m happy for Marcus because now he can keep the name of his restaurant!

[Iskald]

Battle between Tuohino and Mikkelsen getting better and better. Only 4.6s between them in Andreas' favour.

No its a fight between Tuohino and "the non-existing driver". ;)

But I admit its good. Keep on pushing, guys.

[EavesFan09]

No its a fight between Tuohino and "the non-existing driver". ;)

But I admit its good. Keep on pushing, guys.

Tuohino on a flyer? Just over two seconds faster than 2nd placed PGA?

[EavesFan09]

Prokop through split 3 with 5.51. Much slower than I expected.


Prokop and Sandell level at Split 1 but Prokop just shades it after Split 2. Prokop 5:47.8 after final split. I expect Sandell to be around 5:50 or 5.51 mark.

[Boudica]

Dissapointing stage for Räikkönen, or is it just those tyres?

Why, Kimi was only a second slower then Ogier.

[White Sauron]

As for the S2000, is it PG that good (and we all know he's good) or new Fiestas are not good enough on snow? I expected more from Mikkelsen...

By the way, the orthodox GroupN is headed by Ott Tanak! ;) )) And a Russian Impreza is leading the PWRC!)))

[ZequeArgentina]

I´m happy for Marcus because now he can keep the name of his restaurant!

Which was the name of yours?

[Langdale Forest]

I think Petter Solberg will catch PG Andersson to get 9th.

[EavesFan09]

Loeb 1.7 slower than Mikko.

Happy Days. :)

[Langdale Forest]

Loeb 1.7s down on first split.

[Mauri A]

Which was the name of yours?
The name of my restaurant is Villa Pulla, but Marcus´ restaurant is Sågen.

[jonkka]

Intereeeeesting... :eek:

[Tomi]

The name of my restaurant is Villa Pulla, but Marcus´ restaurant is Sågen.

Villa Pulla, funny and good name :)

[Ondra WRC]

Roman Kresta retired fuel tank.

[Langdale Forest]

Loeb is VERY slow, 7 seconds down!

[kolvas]

As for the S2000, is it PG that good (and we all know he's good) or new Fiestas are not good enough on snow? I expected more from Mikkelsen...

By the way, the orthodox GroupN is headed by Ott Tanak! ;) )) And a Russian Impreza is leading the PWRC!)))
It´s PG that is THAT fast

[Langdale Forest]

Roman Kresta retired fuel tank.

Did he run out of fuel?

Anyway, Latvala is fast.

[EavesFan09]

Sordo looses bags of time....spin or a stall!

Loeb to do a 6:36 through Split 3??

C'mon Ford!

[pettersolberg29]

Loeb's lost it! +7s after 2nd split!

[Simmi]

Not a good afternoon for Loeb! Can't all be down to the tyres.

[Langdale Forest]

Sordo lost 37 seconds!?

[kolvas]

Maybe the Ford is better in this conditions

[blissard]

Sordo +37!

[pettersolberg29]

Sordo?! +37

[jonkka]

Bad bad bad...

[N.O.T]

the rally is over.....

[HaCo]

It concerns me that Latvala is faster than Hirvonen... keep the car on the road JML!!!

[Mauri A]

I think they have really worn tyres because Hirvonen is 10 secs slower than in the morning.

[ZequeArgentina]

Sordo in troubles, 37 secondsdown on 2nd Split!!

[Ondra WRC]

Did he run out of fuel?


No. After the jump occurred technical problems with the fuel tank.

[jonkka]

I think they have really worn tyres because Hirvonen is 10 secs slower than in the morning.

Remember that road has been ground to a pulp and is quite rutted now.