Suzuki Sx4

[StevoEvo]

What do you think of the SX4?
Plenty of beef under the bonnet, claiming 320bhp!!! :D

http://www.suzuki-wrc.com/e/pv.html

Will it be another Hyundai or will it be a fast developing car an the S1600 Swift and Ignis's were?

[Sulland]

I think Suzuki as an organisation has a lot more experience in Motorsport compared to Hyundai, therefore will do better. The S1600 experience is valuable, but i do not know how many they will keep doing S1600 and how many new people are/will be brought in for the WRC project !

[StevoEvo]

Well I hope they do well, we need more competition from different manufacturers to challenge the big 3...
Any news on Guy Wilks getting a shot in a SX4?

[Woodeye]

I'm afraid this will be a new Skoda... :) Well, hopefully not, but it sure looks a lot like it.

When Suzuki will announce the drivers for 2007?

[Jaanus]

Well I hope they do well, we need more competition from different manufacturers to challenge the big 3...
Any news on Guy Wilks getting a shot in a SX4?

Guy Wilks has been fired from Suzuki, he will not get to drive the SX4, same goes for PGA. A shame really, because I think they both deserve a chance along with Urmo Aava.

[A.F.F.]

I think it was pretty predictable that both lads, Wilks and Andersson, get boot befoe they really launch the WRC. How com you're all so surprised ?

[Tomi]

I think it was pretty predictable that both lads, Wilks and Andersson, get boot befoe they really launch the WRC. How com you're all so surprised ?

Agree, no one of the juniors has much WRC experience, else also i dont know about this deserves this and deserves that, even if never has showed anything in a WRC car, maybe the guys first should show if they are worth something, most others has also to do the same.

[Jaanus]

I think Guy Wilks did well in Cork rally in Ireland this year with the Impreza WRC, he was leading comfortably against Mark Higgins and Markko Märtin before he went off. I hope he will show his speed in a WRC car next year and the same goes for PGA and Urmo.

[Tomi]

I think Guy Wilks did well in Cork rally in Ireland this year with the Impreza WRC, he was leading comfortably against Mark Higgins and Markko Märtin before he went off. I hope he will show his speed in a WRC car next year and the same goes for PGA and Urmo.

I was thinking in events where you can compaire those who try to get the seats, not village events, yes hope they drive a few WRC rounds in WRC cars.

[cut the b.s.]

I was thinking in events where you can compaire those who try to get the seats, not village events, yes hope they drive a few WRC rounds in WRC cars.

Village events? Idiot, the venue doesnt change the oposition, he blew Markko away, and was well up on Higgins, even to call his accident an 'off' is harsh, he was basically caught out because his gravel note crew werent able to do a section of stage and he slid off quite slowly and damaged the rad, Suzuki have lead these 2 lads up the garden path, they are both fast and at least could have been let share the 2nd seat and get a experienced number 1 driver, as it is who are they likely to get, very few experienced and talented people out there at the stage in their careers that they wont mind wasteing 2 years as they try to get this car up to speed

[Tom206wrc]

Guy Wilks has been fired from Suzuki, he will not get to drive the SX4, same goes for PGA. A shame really, because I think they both deserve a chance along with Urmo Aava.



If Urmo Aava drives the whale or the Xsara I don't believe he will lose not to drive the SX4... :p :

[StevoEvo]

Suzuki probably got Japans Drifting Champion 2006 lined up for a SX4 drive :D
Agreed about Wilks being quick, just nobody is willing to give him a chance to prove himself.
Hope he's not going to be another Alister McRae,( i.e. We know he's quick, but for some reason his face don't fit).

[cal]

Village events? Idiot, the venue doesnt change the oposition, he blew Markko away, and was well up on Higgins, even to call his accident an 'off' is harsh, he was basically caught out because his gravel note crew werent able to do a section of stage and he slid off quite slowly and damaged the rad, Suzuki have lead these 2 lads up the garden path, they are both fast and at least could have been let share the 2nd seat and get a experienced number 1 driver, as it is who are they likely to get, very few experienced and talented people out there at the stage in their careers that they wont mind wasteing 2 years as they try to get this car up to speed

Agree 100% with you. Who will they get? "Someone" is obviously dreaming of 300 finns sharing the 2 seats at Suzuki... ;)

[StevoEvo]

PMSL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!

Would Tommi Makinen be one of those fins :D :D :D

[AndyRAC]

While I welcome the entry of Suzuki into WRC, I feel the treatment of their junior drivers is appalling. They've tested and developed the Ignis, Swift into a class winning car. And look how they treat them; well thanks very much. They will probably use the usual rent-a-drivers...
As for the car, why don't they use a three door? Will look better and more rigid.

[StevoEvo]

While I welcome the entry of Suzuki into WRC, I feel the treatment of their junior drivers is appalling. They've tested and developed the Ignis, Swift into a class winning car. And look how they treat them; well thanks very much. They will probably use the usual rent-a-drivers...
As for the car, why don't they use a three door? Will look better and more rigid.

Deffo Andy, it's a disgrace to them as drivers and to us as fans. All the development work and hard graft to get the Swift/Ignis to where it is today, and then announce they are going top flight, to the joy of the drivers, thinking (yes we're finally in with the big boys) and in the next breath dropping them like a sack of s hit..... Shocking!!!!
As for not taking the 3door option, puzzles me too!!!! Perhaps with a 4 door they can put 2 recaro's in the back for Wilks and PGA to show them what their missing.................

[Daniel]

Village events? Idiot, the venue doesnt change the oposition, he blew Markko away, and was well up on Higgins, even to call his accident an 'off' is harsh, he was basically caught out because his gravel note crew werent able to do a section of stage and he slid off quite slowly and damaged the rad, Suzuki have lead these 2 lads up the garden path, they are both fast and at least could have been let share the 2nd seat and get a experienced number 1 driver, as it is who are they likely to get, very few experienced and talented people out there at the stage in their careers that they wont mind wasteing 2 years as they try to get this car up to speed
There's no need to call people idiots.....

While it's sad t see the JWRC guys treated like this who says that part of the deal was for them to jump into the WRCar?

[StevoEvo]

There's no need to call people idiots.....

While it's sad t see the JWRC guys treated like this who says that part of the deal was for them to jump into the WRCar?
Agreed Daniel, very harsh words.Tut Tut

As for the Suzuki saga, If I was a JWRC Suzuki driver for a number of years with satisfactory results, and Suzuki announced joining the WRC, I would probably assume I was at least, given a chance to be in the running for a seat. Just think Suzuki have been a bit disrespectful, that's all.

[Daniel]

Agreed Daniel, very harsh words.Tut Tut

As for the Suzuki saga, If I was a JWRC Suzuki driver for a number of years with satisfactory results, and Suzuki announced joining the WRC, I would probably assume I was at least, given a chance to be in the running for a seat. Just think Suzuki have been a bit disrespectful, that's all.
Yes but we don't know what the agreement was or even if there was one. Looking at the big picture Suzuki has done those drivers a big favour and now it's time for them to get themselves a top drive.

[cut the b.s.]

There's no need to call people idiots.....

While it's sad t see the JWRC guys treated like this who says that part of the deal was for them to jump into the WRCar?

Ok, Village Idiot for him then :-)

Suzuki has given their JWRC drivers a chance to show what they can do, they have taken the opportunity and showed us that they deserve to move up, but forget them, who do you think is out there with talent, WRC car experience and willing to throw 2 years of their careers into trying to bring this car up to speed, PGA, Wilks and Aava will all be up to WRC speed before Suzuki, if they get the chance....

[StevoEvo]

Ok, Village Idiot for him then :-)

Suzuki has given their JWRC drivers a chance to show what they can do, they have taken the opportunity and showed us that they deserve to move up, but forget them, who do you think is out there with talent, WRC car experience and willing to throw 2 years of their careers into trying to bring this car up to speed, PGA, Wilks and Aava will all be up to WRC speed before Suzuki, if they get the chance....

My sentiments exactly..........Suzuki may as well tell their JWRC drivers "Go away, your s hit" Which as we all know, they aint, and I dearly hope they get good drives and kick Suzuki's asss :D

[Daniel]

My sentiments exactly..........Suzuki may as well tell their JWRC drivers "Go away, your s hit" Which as we all know, they aint, and I dearly hope they get good drives and kick Suzuki's asss :D
Do you know what the basis of the agreement with Suzuki was?

If not then just accept the decision or decide not to buya Suzuki in future because you don't like how they treat their drivers :)

[StevoEvo]

Do you know what the basis of the agreement with Suzuki was?

If not then just accept the decision or decide not to buya Suzuki in future because you don't like how they treat their drivers :)

I'm not talking about any agreements, when they signed for Suzuki, I doubt a WRC was mentioned.
I'm just agreeing with the calous way they were dropped. There must be some mystery fast drivers out there on the market, Suggestions anybody???

P.S. funnily enough Daniel, I currently drive a Suzuki.. pmsl :(

[Daniel]

Do you know what the basis of the agreement with Suzuki was?

If not then just accept the decision or decide not to buya Suzuki in future because you don't like how they treat their drivers :)
Further to this it should be noted that the SX4 is in it's infancy. Next year the car is in development. Can they afford (not in a monetary sense) to put inexperienced drivers into the car and be spending money testing and not get the same feedback that a driver like Gardemeister would be able to offer with all of his experience of various different cars.

[Tomi]

Ok, Village Idiot for him then :-)

Suzuki has given their JWRC drivers a chance to show what they can do, they have taken the opportunity and showed us that they deserve to move up, but forget them, who do you think is out there with talent, WRC car experience and willing to throw 2 years of their careers into trying to bring this car up to speed, PGA, Wilks and Aava will all be up to WRC speed before Suzuki, if they get the chance....

Lol, im sure Suzuki signs the guys they think are best for them, who ever they are, much possible that wilks, aava, pg is up to WRC speed before Suzuki, atleast i understand that aava is trying to show it, about the others i dont know.

[StevoEvo]

Lol, im sure Suzuki signs the guys they think are best for them, who ever they are, much possible that wilks, aava, pg is up to WRC speed before Suzuki, atleast i understand that aava is trying to show it, about the others i dont know.

Yes Suzuki will do whats best for them at this moment in time.

I agree the JWRC boys are up to speed, I know Wilks has done well in a Subaru as did Meeke in last years Rally GB,if your quick in the JWRC you should pick up the speed in the WRC like Loeb, Makinen and so many others have done.
Anyway Suzuki's decision stands final and all is done and dusted now.
I hope they do well and i hope the ex Suzuki boys do to, :)

[Daniel]

Makinen drove in the JWRC? :confused:

Loeb was just a freak. Loeb won nearly everything with that Saxo which admittedly was fast because the technical regs were kinder to it than they are to current S1600 cars :)

[DonJippo]

Further to this it should be noted that the SX4 is in it's infancy. Next year the car is in development. Can they afford (not in a monetary sense) to put inexperienced drivers into the car and be spending money testing and not get the same feedback that a driver like Gardemeister would be able to offer with all of his experience of various different cars.

No they can't, they are hiring experienced engineers why not drivers as well?

[Daniel]

No they can't, they are hiring experienced engineers why not drivers as well?
Good point :up:

Quite right in saying you don't hire trainee rally engineers in the hope that they'll learn quickly how to design a good rally car.

[StevoEvo]

Makinen drove in the JWRC? :confused:

Loeb was just a freak. Loeb won nearly everything with that Saxo which admittedly was fast because the technical regs were kinder to it than they are to current S1600 cars :)

JWRC/F2 same thing technically Dan.
Just a stepping stone to the top

[Daniel]

F2 was never really a stepping stone to the top for drivers. It was more of a stepping stone for manufacturers. It was way way way too expensive for it to be a driver stepping stone. And technically they are quite different. F2 was basically a 2wd NA WRCar and some of them were apparently more expensive than WRCars in their day....

[StevoEvo]

F2 was never really a stepping stone to the top for drivers. It was more of a stepping stone for manufacturers. It was way way way too expensive for it to be a driver stepping stone. And technically they are quite different. F2 was basically a 2wd NA WRCar and some of them were apparently more expensive than WRCars in their day....
Well I would call it a stepping stone to the top. How else would you get there these days(Unless your Wilson Jnr)? Either through F2/S1600 or Grp N.
I agree with you about the cost of the later F2 cars such as the Peugeot and Citroen Kit Cars,(the tarmac racers) which were highly advanced, and as you said very expensive.
It's only progresion I suppose, similar to the Grp A cars to the current WRC models. Take the early F2 category when we had the likes of the Opel Kadett's, VW golf's, Skoda Felicia's etc, pretty basic in comparison to the kit cars and alot cheaper.

These following drivers that I know of started in F2 or Grp.N

F2 TO WRC/GRP.A
Makinen-F2 Sunny>>>>>>>>>>>>>Escort Coswort Grp A
Rovanpera-F2 Ibiza>>>>>>>>>>>>Corolla WRC
Hirvonen-F2 Golf>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Focus WRC
Burns-F2 309>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Legacy Grp A
Loix-F2 Astra>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Corolla WRC
Gardimister-F2 306>>>>>>>>>>>>>Octavia WRC
A.McRae-F2 RS2000>>>>>>>>>>>>Legacy Grp A

S1600 TO WRC
Loeb-Saxo>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Xsara WRC
Sordo-Saxo>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Xsara WRC
Atkinson-Suzuki>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Impreza WRC
Duval-Puma>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Focus WRC

GRP.N TO WRC/GRP.A
Gronholm-Celica GT4>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Celica GT4Grp A
Martin-Escort Cosworth>>>>>>>>>Celica GT4 Grp A

But suppose the during the great Grp.B times the likes of Sainz,Kankkunen,Auriol etc were obviously starting in the then 2nd teer Grp.A!!!

Although C.Mcrae made the biggest leap I think from a private Nova into a Grp.A Sierra Cosworth and did well, when he did'nt crash lol :D

[Daniel]

F2 TO WRC/GRP.A
Makinen-F2 Sunny>>>>>>>>>>>>>Escort Coswort Grp A
Rovanpera-F2 Ibiza>>>>>>>>>>>>Corolla WRC
Hirvonen-F2 Golf>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Focus WRC
Burns-F2 309>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Legacy Grp A
Loix-F2 Astra>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Corolla WRC
Gardimister-F2 306>>>>>>>>>>>>>Octavia WRC
A.McRae-F2 RS2000>>>>>>>>>>>>Legacy Grp A


As far as I know Makinen drove a Sunny GTI-R which was a Grp A car.

I think tbh you're taking things to extremes. I could trace by driving experiences to a Fiat 131 but if I got a drive with a WRC team I wouldn't say that it was a development car for me. Every driver in the WRC can probably trace their driving career back to a 2L FWD car at some stage but it's hardly a developement series. Back in the F2 days the budget required to buy a whole F2 season was a lot and I'm sure it was a lot harder to get the budget for it back then. S1600 = development series because it's comparitively cheap but F2 was never really that cheap.......

BTW Atkinson did drive a Suzuki S1600 but it wasn't where he developed. That was Group N for sure.

[cut the b.s.]

Makkinen drove a GpA Sunny GtiR, and I believe a Gp A delta before the F2 Sunny, but it was the F2 Sunny that really brought him to prominence IMO, he was incredible in it

[jonas_mcrae]

this tread has really evolved from the susuki to the steping stones game LOL

[AndyRAC]

Lets get back on thread, personally I think Suzuki will probably be like Hyundai, Seat; the odd flash of promise but in the end they will flatter to deceive.

[StevoEvo]

Yes your right Daniel, sorry, Makinen did use a Sunny GTiR on the Monte in 92 and maybe other later events, not to sure. But it was the 94 1000 lakes that stood out, with a brilliant result for Tommi. :)
I was'nt takin things to extremes, just standing by my opinion that F2/S1600 is indeed a development stepping stone for young drivers looking to get into the WRC, by learning the world events and honing their driver skills.Then naturally they have to get used to a faster car, with different handling characteristics. But I'd sooner employ a driver that has come through the ranks than a driver with little experience...
How would you say is the way a young driver get's a top drive with a top WRC team in this day and age?

BTW Atkinson prob did do Grp.N as did many drivers..

[StevoEvo]

Makkinen drove a GpA Sunny GtiR, and I believe a Gp A delta before the F2 Sunny, but it was the F2 Sunny that really brought him to prominence IMO, he was incredible in it

RAC, flying with no windscreen and still doing fastest times springs to mind lol Pure talent....

[Mr_xl_Lancia_lx_]

(Yo I'm new to this forum lol and it's my 1st post)

I disagree but I can see where you are coming from Andy.

Suzukis success in the JWRC has shown they mean business, and they have made clear their intentions to ultimately win the WRC, and I think in a couple of years time, that may well be possible.

To boost your argument a bit, I will just put light on the fact that Seat had quite a lot of success in the 2 Litre Class, but in in the WRC they were pretty weak...so that could be on corse to happen again...but i doubt it and which firm will almost definately have the bigger budget? Suzuki...plus the decision was taken right from the very top so I think Suzuki can make it happen in the near future.

[StevoEvo]

Lets get back on thread, personally I think Suzuki will probably be like Hyundai, Seat; the odd flash of promise but in the end they will flatter to deceive.

Do you know if Suzuki has more financial backing for the WRC than Seat and Hyundai, which was run by MSD did? Hope so, would like to see them evolve into a top team in a few yrs and not run out of cash

[AndyRAC]

I hope I am wrong and I may well be. We want a strong WRC and the more competitive cars the better. Hopefully being well funded will enable them to test, develop the car ad turn it into a possible winner, here's hoping.

[A.F.F.]

Makkinen drove a GpA Sunny GtiR, and I believe a Gp A delta before the F2 Sunny, but it was the F2 Sunny that really brought him to prominence IMO, he was incredible in it

Before that all he drove group-N Mitsubishi Galant which gave him opportunities to try Delta etc.

[noel157]

I suspect Suzuki will do well come the 08 season. The car will essentially have had 2 1/2 yrs R & D, they have a habit of doing things properly. They've set up (or are going to be) in France (rather than Hungary) and have started recruiting professional rally engineers. I imagine they'll take the next few months looking for proper test drivers. This is a full blown factory effort, not a case of writing a few cheques and giving them to a preparation company and hoping for the best.
Having said all that I think that's exactly what Toyota did for their F1 project 5 years ago and look what happened there.....

[Tom206wrc]

(Yo I'm new to this forum lol and it's my 1st post)

I disagree but I can see where you are coming from Andy.

Suzukis success in the JWRC has shown they mean business, and they have made clear their intentions to ultimately win the WRC, and I think in a couple of years time, that may well be possible.

To boost your argument a bit, I will just put light on the fact that Seat had quite a lot of success in the 2 Litre Class, but in in the WRC they were pretty weak...so that could be on corse to happen again...but i doubt it and which firm will almost definately have the bigger budget? Suzuki...plus the decision was taken right from the very top so I think Suzuki can make it happen in the near future.




Yes, but JWRC isn't WRC tech. cars !!!! :mark:

Look at Mitsu, strong GrA with Mäkinen but crap WRC after... :s

It's not because they have superb S1600 car that they will build winning WRC :rolleyes:

[Mr_xl_Lancia_lx_]

on the budget thing, i meant suzuki compared with huyundai or seat or skoda.

and on the S1600 thing, I think it is not directly the S1600 that will be the reason, but it does show what they are capable of.

[StevoEvo]

I'm hearing rumour of Duval has already signed a 2 yr contract with Suzuki!!! :confused:
Can anybody add any light to this?

[Rando]

Doch noch spekuliert man sogar, ob Suzuki überhaupt ein World Rally Car baut und sich nicht auf die Super 2000-Kategorie konzentriert.

Seems like there is even a chance that Suzuki might replace their WRC plans with S2000...

[1LM1]

Seems like there is even a chance that Suzuki might replace their WRC plans with S2000...

If it's true I think we must not regret them. That would mean they were not entering the WRC with the right spirit, they were not coming with big ambitions. It's like: let's face it guys, we are not good enough to make a competitive car, we don't want to spend money to improve the car. We'd better giving up and enter a category where it's cheeper and less risky.

If it's true, that reveal they are not commiting deep enough to try to beat Ford or Citroën. It would have been a "new Skoda" or "new Seat" in the WRC. So why would we regret them?
I find it incredible to give up before the first rally. Ok a company has to change plans very rapidly when it's necessary but why would they give up now? A company has to take big financial risks sometimes and believe in big risky challenge. WRC is a big challenge yes but that's why the image of a manufacturer can improve when they succeed in this championship.

WRC doesn't need manufacturers with little ambition. If they come, they have to come with the right motivation, the right money and the right people.

I hope WRC will survive and not be replaced with Super 2000. Ok WRC is expensive and there is no TV but, I am sure that the ROI is not bad at all. It's a prestigious world championship with a prestigious history and that means something all over the world.

I deeply regret the new attitude from the manufacturers and from the FIA: the manufacturer doesn't want to spend money anymore in motorsports and prefer to enter wtcc or super 2000 only and the fia create those new cheep categories with standard gear boxes and weight penalty to prevent someone to dominate. I think it's all wrong!

Motorsport has to stay a technical challenge like it's still the case in Formula 1, WRC and at Le Mans. It's part of the magic of this wonderful sport.

So I really hope this rumour about Suzuki switching to Super 2000 is false.

[1LM1]

On the other hand, if this story is true, we can congratulate Suzuki to understand very soon that they can't succeed in wrc because wrc is not the place to be for them (because they don't want to spend enough money or they are not motivated enough for example).

It's a smart move from Suzuki boss to switch to super 2000 in that case.


But we can regret they don't want to spend more money and try to be competitive in the wrc category. I am sure that they can do great things in the top category.

Anyway, I hope this rumour is untrue and that Suzuki want to commit in the wrc category on a long term basis.

[koko0703]

If I recall correctly, Suzuki was investigating the possibility of S2000 from very begining as FIA wasn't really clear about what will be the top category of WRC. If there is rumor of Suzuki switching to S2000, it is simply they want to stick with whatever the format that will be the top category in the future. FIA should make a decision on whether to continue WRCars or replace it with S2000. If Suzuki runs partial program with WRCar next year and FIA scraps WRCar for the future, it really doesn't make sense for them to try it in the first place. WRC needs some regulation stability to attract manufacturers.

[1LM1]

I completely agree koko0793. Regulation stability is the key. But if Suzuki don't come in WRC, regulation stability is in danger. Vicious circle.

Suzuki have to come in the wrc category. The FIA intends to maintain wrc as the top category in the long run. It's the plan at present.

But If Suzuki don't come, they contribute to endanger this plan (and the regulation stability).

I admit I would be disappointed if Suzuki scrap their wrc project.

[Tom206wrc]

On another way, to build S2000 cars is also to take risks as many other constructors intend to do that and some others already have their cars... :mark:

As a constructor you also have to be build a competitive car in S2000 if you want to win ;)

[AndyRAC]

Maybe Suzuki have realised that the WRC formula is a dead duck! And that its not worth carrying on with it. Who knows??

[animrallye]

The corsican newspaper, Corse-Matin, wrote this morning that the first official participation will be the Tour de Corse (12/14 october 2007).

[1LM1]

On another way, to build S2000 cars is also to take risks as many other constructors intend to do that and some others already have their cars... :mark:

As a constructor you also have to be build a competitive car in S2000 if you want to win ;)

Yes it's risky. But in a sense, it's less risky than the WRC category. I think you need more money, more time and more work if you want to succeed in the WRC category.

Don't forget that all Super 2000 cars have a standard gear box and must not exceed a certain price. It's a completely different story.

As we are both Peugeot fans, I want to say that I am absolutely delighted about the arrival of the 207 Super 2000. Moreover, the first tests are very promising. I hope the car will be fast and reliable but I know that the competition is fierce even in this category.

But if Super 2000 was the new main program of Peugeot sport, I would be disappointed. Fortunately, it's not the case (as everyone knows, Peugeot new main programme is Le Mans with LMP1).
Keep in mind that Peugeot prefered to enter Le Mans and not WTCC notably because of the penalty ballast rule in place in WTCC and I think they are right.
Peugeot prefered to enter a program where they need to spend more money to be competitive than what would have been spent in a WTCC progam. JP Nicolas explained that the penalty ballast rule does not correspond to Peugeot philosophy in motorsport: I remember him saying that "wtcc is not a sport, it's a show". I hope they keep thinking like that in the future and that Suzuki will enter WRC and back this category because Super 2000 is not a good top category for the WRC.

[1LM1]

The corsican newspaper, Corse-Matin, wrote this morning that the first official participation will be the Tour de Corse (12/14 october 2007).

Good news! I think it a first clue that Suzuki did not scrap their WRC programme. :up:

[StevoEvo]

The corsican newspaper, Corse-Matin, wrote this morning that the first official participation will be the Tour de Corse (12/14 october 2007).

Early speculation was that Suzuki was to contest, as you posted Corsica and also Finland and GB.. But there's no conformation I can find at present ..

[Tom206wrc]

If the rumour about Dudu going to Suzuki for 2 years is true, it makes sense to start in Corsica :D

Dudu has always been fast on tarmac :p :

[Simmi]

Why are you taking what's been said on a highly speculative website as being the truth?

[Daniel]

Because that's what Tom does.......

[StevoEvo]

Do you think the SX4 has strong resembelence to the 206
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i281/welshwille/sx4rear.jpghttp://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i281/welshwille/206R.jpg

[Daniel]

No more than any other car......

[StevoEvo]

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i281/welshwille/206WRCF.jpghttp://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i281/welshwille/sx4front.jpg Looks a near identical wheelbase

[1LM1]

The resemblance of the rear wing is quite impressive however.

[Simmi]

Because that's what Tom does.......


No I wasnt on about Tom I was more talking about the fact that everyone took the fact they were pulling their WRC efforts as gospel just because of one website.

[Daniel]

Well that's what they do ;) :s tareup:

Tbh making assumptions about Suzuki when we have no real idea what they're like in the WRC is just silly.

[1LM1]

Well that's what they do ;) :s tareup:

Tbh making assumptions about Suzuki when we have no real idea what they're like in the WRC is just silly.


You can say that's silly but the rumour about Suzuki switching to Super 2000 exists and that's not me who launched the rumour. So why not making assumptions?
Suzuki seem to do everything to make the rumour grow. I am not responsible for that.

[Tom206wrc]

No more than any other car......




More than an Impreza, Focus or Lancer, whale, Xsara or C4, you have to admit it Daniel !!!! :laugh:

I personally see a resemblance between the two cars... ;)