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jonny hurlock
12th June 2009, 14:44
Gabor Talmacsi is in motogp with scot

lorenzo is wearing barca colours for this weekend

The Phantom
12th June 2009, 15:35
Rossi fastest in first practise, then Lorenzo then Stoner.

Pedrosa way down the order, but Hayden in 6th!

Corny
12th June 2009, 17:16
let's hope for Nicky he gets the Ducati in a fast mode.. The guy deserves more than this

Let's see if Valentino is able to hold Lorenzo off. Hope it'll be an exciting GP

AndyRAC
12th June 2009, 21:18
What's happened to the Eurosport boys Toby & Julian?

Rod Richardson
13th June 2009, 09:11
It will be interesting to see how Talmacsi performs in Moto GP. He's been thrown in at the deep end but has the tenacity and ability to do well.


OOPS sorry about that....had not noticed that a thread had already been started......couldn't cancel this one.

NinjaMaster
14th June 2009, 05:00
Hooray, a dry race is forecast! :up:

This should be a real intriguing race. Jorge appears to have the race pace but this was also the case at Jerez and that didn't go according to plan. Vale has been very fast also but the pressure is right on him, outpaced by his teammate again, how will he respond if he's beaten again?
Stoner and Dovizioso look like battling for 3rd, both just slightly off the pace unless a little more speed is found in morning warmup.
Thereafter, it is looking quite close which is great. Here's hoping we are on for a battle royale.

Rod Richardson
14th June 2009, 07:44
QUALIFYING 1st 15
125cc
1 60 Julian SIMON (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Julian+Simon) SPA Bancaja Aspar Team Aprilia 1'51.448
2 44 Pol ESPARGARO (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Pol+Espargaro) SPA Derbi Racing Team Derbi 1'51.468
3 94 Jonas FOLGER (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Jonas+Folger) GER Ongetta Team I.S.P.A. Aprilia 1'51.787
4 35 Randy KRUMMENACHER (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Randy+Krummenacher) SWI Degraaf Grand Prix Aprilia 1'51.804
5 33 Sergio GADEA (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Sergio+Gadea) SPA Bancaja Aspar Team 125cc Aprilia 1'51.824
6 18 Nicolas TEROL (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Nicolas+Terol) SPA Jack & Jones Team Aprilia 1'51.958
7 38 Bradley SMITH (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Bradley+Smith) GBR Bancaja Aspar Team 125cc Aprilia 1'52.209
8 29 Andrea IANNONE (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Andrea+Iannone) ITA Ongetta Team I.S.P.A. Aprilia 1'52.384
9 17 Stefan BRADL (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Stefan+Bradl) GER Viessmann Kiefer Racing Aprilia 1'52.432
10 45 Scott REDDING (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Scott+Redding) GBR Blusens Aprilia Aprilia 1'52.536
11 99 Danny WEBB (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Danny+Webb) GBR Degraaf Grand Prix Aprilia 1'52.548
12 93 Marc MARQUEZ (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Marc+Marquez) SPA Red Bull KTM Moto Sport KTM 1'52.616 227
13 14 Johann ZARCO (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Johann+Zarco) FRA WTR San Marino Team Aprilia 1'52.782
14 11 Sandro CORTESE (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Sandro+Cortese) GER Ajo Interwetten Derbi 1'52.832
15 71 Tomoyoshi KOYAMA (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Tomoyoshi+Koyama) JPN Loncin Racing Loncin 1'52.935

THAT FOLGER KID AGAIN.........HOPE HE GOES WELL OVER RACE DISTANCE THIS TIME

250
1 40 Hector BARBERA (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Hector+Barbera) SPA Pepe World Team Aprilia 1'46.749
2 19 Alvaro BAUTISTA (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Alvaro+Bautista) SPA Mapfre Aspar Team Aprilia 1'46.899
3 58 Marco SIMONCELLI (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Marco+Simoncelli) ITA Metis Gilera Gilera 1'46.908
4 12 Thomas LUTHI (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Thomas+Luthi) SWI Emmi - Caffe Latte Aprilia 1'47.081
5 6 Alex DEBON (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Alex+Debon) SPA Aeropuerto-Castello-Blusens Aprilia 1'47.125
6 4 Hiroshi AOYAMA (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Hiroshi+Aoyama) JPN Scot Racing Team 250cc Honda 1'47.166
7 75 Mattia PASINI (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Mattia+Pasini) ITA Team Toth Aprilia Aprilia 1'47.225
8 55 Hector FAUBEL (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Hector+Faubel) SPA Valencia CF - Honda SAG Honda 1'47.379
9 63 Mike DI MEGLIO (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Mike+Di+Meglio) FRA Mapfre Aspar Team 250cc Aprilia 1'47.426
10 14 Ratthapark WILAIROT (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Ratthapark+Wilairot) THA Thai Honda PTT SAG Honda 1'47.559
11 25 Alex BALDOLINI (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Alex+Baldolini) ITA WTR San Marino Team Aprilia 1'47.596
12 17 Karel ABRAHAM (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Karel+Abraham) CZE Cardion AB Motoracing Aprilia 1'47.725
13 35 Raffaele DE ROSA (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Raffaele+de+Rosa) ITA Scot Racing Team 250cc Honda 1'47.747
14 16 Jules CLUZEL (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Jules+Cluzel) FRA Matteoni Racing Aprilia 1'47.795
15 48 Shoya TOMIZAWA (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Shouya+Tomizawa) JPN CIP Moto - GP250 Honda 1'48.032

Moto GP The lot
1 99 Jorge LORENZO (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Jorge+Lorenzo) SPA Fiat Yamaha Team (http://www.motogp.com/en/teams/Fiat+Yamaha+Team) Yamaha 1'41.974 324.421 km/h
2 46 Valentino ROSSI (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Valentino+Rossi) ITA Fiat Yamaha Team (http://www.motogp.com/en/teams/Fiat+Yamaha+Team) Yamaha 1'41.987
3 27 Casey STONER (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Casey+Stoner) AUS Ducati Marlboro Team (http://www.motogp.com/en/teams/Ducati+Marlboro+Team) Ducati 1'42.426
4 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Andrea+Dovizioso) ITA Repsol Honda Team (http://www.motogp.com/en/teams/Repsol+Honda+Team) Honda 1'42.594
5 24 Toni ELIAS (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Toni+Elias) SPA San Carlo Honda Gresini (http://www.motogp.com/en/teams/San+Carlo+Honda+Gresini) Honda 1'43.139
6 5 Colin EDWARDS (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Colin+Edwards) USA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (http://www.motogp.com/en/teams/Monster+Yamaha+Tech+3) Yamaha 1'43.168
7 14 Randy DE PUNIET (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Randy+de+Puniet) FRA LCR Honda MotoGP (http://www.motogp.com/en/teams/LCR+Honda+MotoGP) Honda 1'43.175
8 3 Dani PEDROSA (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Dani+Pedrosa) SPA Repsol Honda Team (http://www.motogp.com/en/teams/Repsol+Honda+Team) Honda 1'43.207
9 52 James TOSELAND (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/James+Toseland) GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (http://www.motogp.com/en/teams/Monster+Yamaha+Tech+3) Yamaha 1'43.233
10 36 Mika KALLIO (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Mika+Kallio) FIN Pramac Racing (http://www.motogp.com/en/teams/Pramac+Racing) Ducati 1'43.336
11 65 Loris CAPIROSSI (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Loris+Capirossi) ITA Rizla Suzuki MotoGP (http://www.motogp.com/en/teams/Rizla+Suzuki+MotoGP) Suzuki 1'43.365
12 7 Chris VERMEULEN (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Chris+Vermeulen) AUS Rizla Suzuki MotoGP (http://www.motogp.com/en/teams/Rizla+Suzuki+MotoGP) Suzuki 1'43.411
13 69 Nicky HAYDEN (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Nicky+Hayden) USA Ducati Marlboro Team (http://www.motogp.com/en/teams/Ducati+Marlboro+Team) Ducati 1'43.414
14 15 Alex DE ANGELIS (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Alex+de+Angelis) RSM San Carlo Honda Gresini (http://www.motogp.com/en/teams/San+Carlo+Honda+Gresini) Honda 1'43.422
15 59 Sete GIBERNAU (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Sete+Gibernau) SPA Grupo Francisco Hernando (http://www.motogp.com/en/teams/Grupo+Francisco+Hernando) Ducati 1'43.714
16 72 Yuki TAKAHASHI (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Yuki+Takahashi) JPN Scot Racing Team MotoGP (http://www.motogp.com/en/teams/Scot+Racing+Team+MotoGP) Honda 1'43.777
17 33 Marco MELANDRI (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Marco+Melandri) ITA Hayate Racing Team (http://www.motogp.com/en/teams/Hayate+Racing+Team) Kawasaki 1'43.792
18 88 Niccolo CANEPA (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Niccolo+Canepa) ITA Pramac Racing (http://www.motogp.com/en/teams/Pramac+Racing) Ducati 1'43.991
19 41 Gabor TALMACSI (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Gabor+Talmacsi) HUN Scot Racing Team MotoGP (http://www.motogp.com/en/teams/Scot+Racing+Team+MotoGP) Honda 1'45.833


WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW TALMACSI PROGRESSES

NinjaMaster
14th June 2009, 13:49
Amazing.

Daniel
14th June 2009, 14:14
Bloody hell. Amazing last lap there.....

jonny hurlock
14th June 2009, 14:16
the best race I have ever seen imo

Wim_Impreza
14th June 2009, 14:37
the best race I have ever seen imo

In MotoGP yes, but for sure not in the 500cc class. I remember 3 GP's, and than I speak only about 1999, that were better: the British Grand Prix 1999, Valencia 1999 (with the very sliding McCoy in the rain) and Phillip Island 1999.

Corny
14th June 2009, 15:40
Last corner... What a champions they are!

The Phantom
14th June 2009, 15:55
Fantastic from both, close and clean. And 106 points each for Rossi, Lorenzo and Stoner - basically reset the clock and start the season all over again!

Stoner sure was a wreck afterwards, must have been a tough race for him. Amazing that he was able to hold Dovi off in that condition.

So, Lorenzo mugs Rossi at Mugello and Rossi returns the favour at Catalunya... I hope they can keep their rivalry amicable. So far so good.

Shocker for Simon in 125! I believe the on-circuit lap count display was incorrect? If that is the case he really should receive 25 points (i.e. leave points for all finishers in place, but bump Simon's points up from 16 to 25?) I don't know, what other options are there?

ozrevhead
14th June 2009, 16:11
Fantastic from both, close and clean. And 106 points each for Rossi, Lorenzo and Stoner - basically reset the clock and start the season all over again!

Stoner sure was a wreck afterwards, must have been a tough race for him. Amazing that he was able to hold Dovi off in that condition.

So, Lorenzo mugs Rossi at Mugello and Rossi returns the favour at Catalunya... I hope they can keep their rivalry amicable. So far so good.

Shocker for Simon in 125! I believe the on-circuit lap count display was incorrect? If that is the case he really should receive 25 points (i.e. leave points for all finishers in place, but bump Simon's points up from 16 to 25?) I don't know, what other options are there?
Watching him on the podium i thought he was going to collaps there and then and even in the press conference he looked horrible...hopefully its nothing to serious

MrJan
14th June 2009, 19:06
I said it for mugello but I mean it more this week: WOW. Rossi really is a different breed of rider and that move was unbelievable!! Out of turn nine it looked like jorge had it in the bag but I hadn't counted on seeing one of the most amazing overtakes in history.

Didn't look good for Stoner though, he's usually a fit guy but the heat obviously got to him this time.

Anyway more of the same from Assen please, seems like exciting motogp is back and I can't get enough of it.

MJW
14th June 2009, 19:41
What's happened to the Eurosport boys Toby & Julian? Because the deal to show Moto GP on Eurosport was done so late, both Julian & Toby needed to earn money elsewhere. I dont know about Julain but Toby was working at Le Mans this weekend, and last moto gp he was racing at Shelsley Walsh hillclimb. They will be back for Assen, next Moto gp. Tobe's commentray on that last lap would have been amazing!!!

Sonic
14th June 2009, 22:49
Wow!

Amazing last lap. I've been watching moto for 4/5 years now but I've never felt the need to post before. Rossi pulling his leg in with three to go had my pulse racing but that was just the start. Amazing racing, and so clean.

The Phantom
15th June 2009, 06:24
I said it for mugello but I mean it more this week: WOW. Rossi really is a different breed of rider and that move was unbelievable!! Out of turn nine it looked like jorge had it in the bag but I hadn't counted on seeing one of the most amazing overtakes in history.

Didn't look good for Stoner though, he's usually a fit guy but the heat obviously got to him this time.

Anyway more of the same from Assen please, seems like exciting motogp is back and I can't get enough of it.

More than heat for Stoner, he was apparently pretty sick leading up to the race. He did well to salvage such a good points haul.

I agree Jan, I don't think there's a rider on the grid who could have pulled that pass off other than Rossi!

CaptainRaiden
15th June 2009, 06:59
Difficult to find words to describe those last couple of laps. I really feel sorry for anybody who couldn't watch the race live. Damn, what a race! And I agree with Jan Yeo too, Rossi is on another planet. I really hope he can continue this form through the rest of the season.

Also, I have to say, I am amazed by Lorenzo as well, and he has improved a helluva great deal, even though I really, passionately wanted him to lose and eat the humble pie halfway through the race. I detest him because of his arrogance, but he was able to stay with Rossi all through the race, and even put in a very good move at the last lap, only to be outdone on the last lap by Rossi's genius.

Another interesting thing is, Catalunya is probably the only circuit which gave us the two best races of the 800cc era, first 2007 with Stoner's win and now this.

Funny how incredibly boring the same circuit is in Formula 1. :D

tha_jackal
15th June 2009, 07:24
i may have orgasmed during that last lap.. potentially..

:D

leopard
15th June 2009, 07:45
Rossi has his own style, he bends down along straight track and open up and put one of his leg down in the corners which may disturb riders behind, knocking the rivals off just on the last corner is destroying mentally. Lorenzo very much reminds me of the young Gibernau, tends to ride upright with arms relatively straight. Perhaps Lorenzo is determined to ride with some more strength, being elapsed in consecutive crash and injured last year did not make his motivation and skill lessened.

Having said this last two years ago, putting Lorenzo and Rossi at the same factory team would be dilemmatic, a situation that requires a choice between options that are or seem equally unfavorable or mutually exclusive. I've thought of him being alongside of Stoner somewhere on the Ducati or elsewhere whose bike is equal to Yamaha, and together they work hand in hand with enough maneuverability to be up against Rossi.

Yamaha might hire Lorenzo as regeneration to anticipate Rossi once he decides to retire from two wheels sport. But like it or not, being in position as such is not easy, as it may victimize his talent off for something to respect senior rider whom probably team leans on for the title.

I hope both riders can play the game clean, perform only based on rule of the sport and never try to politicize the game too personal which may cause Rossi to reverse the winding of old adversaries. Lorenzo is also to keep emotion cool, do not get provoked by continues pressure from his team mate who has snatched the win away from him just on the last corner. That's just the game.

However all depend on Yamaha team how can they manage their riders out to favor each other. Double thumbs up for both of them for such sportive and entertaining race :up: :up:

leopard
15th June 2009, 08:01
i may have orgasmed during that last lap.. potentially..

:D
I am assured that you still memorize incident on the last lap vividly. :)

Ranger
15th June 2009, 08:56
Two great MotoGP races in a row, amazing.

This one was the best 800cc race to date, no question.

Incredible.

CaptainRaiden
15th June 2009, 09:10
i may have orgasmed during that last lap.. potentially..

:D

I think my neighbors, and the old lady living downstairs would say the same thing about me too. :p

My wife came running to the room, scared and asked what the F happened, when she heard the yelling, and then saw me standing with both my hands up in the air in front of the TV. :laugh:

MrJan
15th June 2009, 09:42
My wife came running to the room, scared and asked what the F happened, when she heard the yelling, and then saw me standing with both my hands up in the air in front of the TV. :laugh:

Me and my Dad were exactly the same, I was virtually stood up cheering :laugh: Also before Vale even crossed the line my brother was phoning me to make sure that I'd seen it :D

CaptainRaiden
15th June 2009, 09:51
Me and my Dad were exactly the same, I was virtually stood up cheering :laugh: Also before Vale even crossed the line my brother was phoning me to make sure that I'd seen it :D

Don't tell me! When it said, "6 laps to go", my friend called me up too and asked in a very straight voice, "Dude, tell me you're watching the race." I told him, oh no, there is a race?? I'm barbecuing with my relatives on the balcony. Of course, he didn't believe me. :p

ShiftingGears
15th June 2009, 10:17
I think this is going to be the best year of 800cc MotoGP, for sure.

15th June 2009, 11:09
99 wins for Rossi hence his pointing to the 99 on Lorenzo's bike and confusing the race commentators who were still recovering from the last few laps and hadn't regained their composure. I think that is the first Motogp race that has had me on my feet, and I think I was making a lot of noise too - just as well the windows were shut.

NinjaMaster
15th June 2009, 11:27
What can you say after a race like that but WOW!

I think that was a pretty important race for Valentino and Jorge to have(duh). I think Lorenzo will learn to never assume that you have Rossi beaten and he'll be better prepared for Vale next time and I also think that for Valentino, it was an important win over Lorenzo. The pressure was starting to build on him about getting beaten by his teammate but to beat Jorge head-to-head in the dry will be a confidence booster for him. Listening to Heehaw's post race interview was interesting. He paid tribute to Rossi but was very careful and measured in what he said. It's on!

Stoner looked like death warmed up. It was a gutsy ride by him and hopefully it's nothing sinister and he can recover for the next race so we can see the same sort of closeness but amongst the three leaders together. That would sure be sweet!

And poor Dovi, don't fret my friend. You're factory podium finish if just around the corner.

Nice to see Hayden get his best result, even if only a 10th place. Here's hoping this is a beginning of a resurgence for him and for a turnaround for the Ducati Desmosedici being rideable for riders whose initials aren't C.S.

pino
15th June 2009, 16:22
Amazing final lap and amazing Valentino once again :s mokin: