Rally Great Britain 2009

[bluuford]

Nothing serious on ss13!
Hopes getting less and less... :(

On the fight for the third place.. there is nice fight again :-)

[wwbroe]

Mikko is saying that he was absolutely flat out, so i guess he just isn't capable to come closer to Seb.

[A.F.F.]

I wonder if Mikko's trying at all... But anyway, I don't see any fighting spirit in him now. Unfortunately... "Never to retreat, never to surrender. The finest soldiers the world has ever known...." Where are they in rally now. Ah, Greece?

I think Mikko is still trying. He and Sebastien were six seconds faster than others on that stages and I believe Petter and Sordo are still pushing...

But I have to admit it looks bad... :(

[jonkka]

Post #1000 on this thread... longest one for a while

[jimakos]

On the fight for the third place.. there is nice fight again :-)

Agree that is a nice battle between Solberg and Sordo but nothing important...
In first places is playing the title!
I wonder only for Mikko sorry guys ;)

[White Sauron]

I think Mikko is still trying. He and Sebastien were six seconds faster than others on that stages and I believe Petter and Sordo are still pushing...

But I have to admit it looks bad... :(

Yeah, unfortunately he lacks that "extra bit" which would make the difference...

[jimakos]

Something that makes me happy in this rally is that Solberg seems too competitive with his new car so hope he can fight for the title next year after a lot of time ago...

[N.O.T]

Something that makes me happy in this rally is that Solberg seems too competitive with his new car so hope he can fight for the title next year after a lot of time ago...

he is 4th ..... last time i checked you have to win to be competitive

[Francis44]

Stage starting now!!!!

[Salist]

Come on Mikko!!!

[bluuford]

So, three stages to know who wins his first title! Is it going to be Mikko or Citroen team;-)

[wotaguy]

miko fastest thru ss13, by 0.8,

[Salist]

Loeb quicker 0,2s in 1st split than Mikko.

[jimakos]

miko fastest thru ss13, by 0.8,

We are in ss14 mate :p

[wotaguy]

loeb, for sure, you have to say he,s gone for it this weekend .

[Psycho!]

If only Malcolm had stopped Jari Matti in Sardinia................

[wotaguy]

yeah i know sorry my pc is slow, and noticed nothing mentioned on here :) blame my age

[jimakos]

If only Malcolm had stopped Jari Matti in Sardinia................

Don't remember us Ford mistakes Psycho,please I'm hurting...

[Wasted Talent]

I wonder if Mikko's trying at all... But anyway, I don't see any fighting spirit in him now. Unfortunately... "Never to retreat, never to surrender. The finest soldiers the world has ever known...." Where are they in rally now. Ah, Greece?

How can you say such a thing.

Of course he isn't trying - why should he? He is only trying to win a World Championship!!!!

He has been going flat out ALL rally.

To say he should be going faster is like saying that Barricello should have been going 5 secs a lap quicker at the end of the Brazilian GP....it cannot be done

As for saying he might as well crash - again stupid comment. If he crashes then Loeb has won - if Mikko is going into the last stage loeb cannot relax

WT

(Not a personal attack on WS - just trying to put right the comments of a lot of people on here)

[muscrae]

Come on Loeb !! =)

[jimakos]

I think Loeb started slowing down to protect his position...
Nothing can be done now :erm:

[Francis44]

Mikko is winning 2.5 seconds, he is definetely trying.

[muscrae]

Mikko is 2.5 sec quicker at the 3rd split...

[jimakos]

Mikko is winning 2.5 secconds, he is definetely trying.
Can't be sure if Mikko won these 2.5 or Loeb lost them ;)

[wotaguy]

[quote="wotaguy"]yeah i know sorry blame my age

[Psycho!]

Don't remember us Ford mistakes Psycho,please I'm hurting...
Not only Mikko lost the title,but this move had no result...In Acropolis Latvala made a huge mistake....All for nothing....!!I'm fed up!! :mad:

[MartijnS]

8.3 faster!

[Psycho!]

Mikko 8,3 quicker!!!!!!!

[jimakos]

8.3 what happening???

[muscrae]

Hirvonen is flying !!!

[Francis44]

WOW wait a second is already winning 8.3 seconds this may not be over yet!!!!

[pino makinen]

If only Malcolm had stopped Jari Matti in Sardinia................

If only Jari Matti slowed down in last SS at Polonia.

[Psycho!]

Loeb sounds very calm though....

[muscrae]

Seb takes it easy and does not take much risk I think...

[bluuford]

And Solber 5 sek up on Sordo :-)

[MartijnS]

Wow...he took 11.2 seconds!

[White Sauron]

How can you say such a thing.



(Not a personal attack on WS - just trying to put right the comments of a lot of people on here)

Sorry mate, I was being too emotional. Of course not being inside the team I can't judge about Mikko's current pace. Anyway, even if he can't beat Seb, thanks to him for the interesting season - nobody expected it would turn out to be so thrilling.

[N.O.T]

cruise mode...

[PeteRobs]

Fair play to him, he has finally woke up by the sound of it excellent stuff :D :D :D :D :D

[jimakos]

11.2 and 2 stages remain!!
Mikko gives us hope again!
GO MIKKO GO :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[muscrae]

11.2 and 2 stages remain!!
Mikko gives us hope again!
GO MIKKO GO :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:


18.2 is the diffrence...

[jimakos]

18.2 is the diffrence...

11.2 I mean the difference in ss14 mate I know the truth...

[Salist]

YESSSSS, Go Mikko !!!!!!!!!!!!

[bluuford]

So, at the moment we have Loeb vs Hirvonen, Sordo vs Solberg and it looks like we might have Wilson vs Latvala as well (the last one is more like a statistical thing):-) That is what rallying all about :-)

[jimakos]

In ss14 Hirvonen and Solberg were flying :ninja:

[Psycho!]

Where is Latvala???????

[r199]

Latvala off

pfffff he is back on track

[jimakos]

Where is Latvala???????

3rd in ss14 with a great performance...
But I think he won't manage to catch Wilson finally :)

[MartijnS]

He was off afther the FF, but he can continue :) He's back on the road.

[raybak]

Go Hirvonen!! Hope he takes it up to Loeb on the last 2 stages. Would be good for the championship to be decided by a few secs.

Ray

[MartijnS]

JM 2 punctures, he should borrow one of Al-Qassimi ;)

[paddocknews]

LATVALA J.-M. / ANTTILA M. Damage on rear, punctures on right side "I came off after crest, I hadn't in my notes, it was very slippy."

[PeteRobs]

JM 2 punctures, he should borrow one of Al-Qassimi ;)


You cant borrow mate against rules, sounds like he was flat out over a crest and couldn't stop. shame as he is the future of Rallying and the only one to compete with Seb Loeb

[kolvas]

Latvala won´t get to the finsish, according what I´ve heard on the RallyRadio he has to much damage on the suspension.
The car is crabbing on the road

[Sulland]

Petter are starting to put pressure on Sordo for 3rd, just 14 sec now !

Sordo must feel the pressure...

[Francis44]

Let's see if Loeb responds on the next stage.

[Mauri A]

Let's see if Loeb responds on the next stage.
You can be sure of that!

[muscrae]

You can be sure of that!

Definetily

[MartijnS]

Mikko is flying again, 1.1 at first split.

[muscrae]

Mikko 1.1 quicker in 1st split...

[Francis44]

Mikko dosen't show up on 2 split!!!!

[jimakos]

Mikko 1.1 quicker in 1st split...

Come on come on you can still do it :)

[MikeD]

A lot slower splits ... I think the rain has picked up

[MikeD]

Mikko has stopped. His bonnet is up

[muscrae]

The bonnet is poped up in Mikko's car...

[MartijnS]

Mikko his bonnet has came up and he had to stop for a moment. F*CK! :(

[muscrae]

he's moving again..

[kolvas]

, Mikko has problem, now it´s definitly over

[Wasted Talent]

Sorry mate, I was being too emotional. Of course not being inside the team I can't judge about Mikko's current pace. Anyway, even if he can't beat Seb, thanks to him for the interesting season - nobody expected it would turn out to be so thrilling.

Okay mate, I think there are a few emotional people on here :) :)

Lets hope we have an exciting 2010!!

WT

[Salist]

Mikko Stopped in stage. :(

[Buzz Lightyear]

Not too clever..

[jimakos]

Mikko Stopped in stage. :(

What the f**k...
Loeb is too lucky and this time :mad:

[wwbroe]

Some friends of mine are on the stage and Mikko has passes them now, but bonnet was gone, he was loosing about one minute at that place.

[Francis44]

What the f**k...
Loeb is too lucky and this time :mad:

He had plenty of bad luck too, Poland is a good example!!!!

[Salist]

What happend?

[wwbroe]

What the f**k...
Loeb is too lucky and this time :mad:

Are you convinced that it is only luck, i think he proved once again that he is absolutely the best. :D

[MartijnS]

Ogier rolled apparently.

[MikeD]

They say that Loeb has Turbo problems... it ain't over until the fat lady sings...

[r199]

Loeb seems to have to have big turbo problems

It aint over at all

[Buzz Lightyear]

The bonnet just doesnt come up by itself Mikko....

[muscrae]

They say that Loeb has Turbo problems... it ain't over until the fat lady sings...

Source?

[MartijnS]

Sordo is only 0.9 of a second behind Hirvonen now with one stage to go.

[snellman]

F****ng !!!

[MikeD]

Source?

WRR

[TMorel]

Dodgy bonnets and iffy turbos...?
Is someone from hollywood writing this script?
Talking of hollywood, Has Petter been fiddling with the competition to get his victory?

[Francis44]

They say that Loeb has Turbo problems... it ain't over until the fat lady sings...


OMG this is getting exciting.

[MikeD]

According to PSolberg, "It's raining like hell"

[snellman]

The bonnet just doesnt come up by itself Mikko....
Did you build the car?

[muscrae]

Bloodyhell !!!!

[Miika]

The luck, the luck.. Deary me.

[Francis44]

I can see Loeb doing the last stage without turbo :D , it would be funny to see.

[muscrae]

This is the best ever final I've witnessed !!!

[Buzz Lightyear]

Did you build the car?

No, but ive worked on them for long enough to know.

The bonnet doesnt come up by iteself... 2 km into the next stage after re-group, at the first sign of a jump.

[A.F.F.]

Oh man.... This is exactly what I didn't wish for either of the drivers :(

[Francis44]

Stage stopped??!!

[wwbroe]

Latvalla is still running but apparently the wheels of the car are pointing in all directions. :D

[A.F.F.]

Latvalla is still running but apparently the wheels of the car are pointing in all directions. :D

Well, what you loose with the car, you fix with the glove :D

[PeteRobs]

were did you here that??

That is disgusting that some PR!£& has tried to damage Loeb by putting rocks in road.

Don't these people realise that could of killed someone maybe even them selves IDIOTS.

[muscrae]

were did you here that??

That is disgusting that some PR!£& has tried to damage Loeb by putting rocks in road.

Don't these people realise that could of killed someone maybe even them selves IDIOTS.

Gigantic Idiots !!!!

[MartijnS]

Nobody said that some people put rocks on the road right?

[Wim_Impreza]

He had plenty of bad luck too, Poland is a good example!!!!

That was his own fault. Thanks to Poland, Rautenbach, Novikov and SupeRally, he will be champion.

[MikeD]

were did you here that??

That is disgusting that some PR!£& has tried to damage Loeb by putting rocks in road.

Don't these people realise that could of killed someone maybe even them selves IDIOTS.

Dangerous and poor sportsmanship! This is happening too often of rallies nowadays.

[pino]

I really hope the title will not be decided by couple of rocks :(

[wotaguy]

repeat of 94, carlos had logs put on stage

[blissard]

were did you here that??

That is disgusting that some PR!£& has tried to damage Loeb by putting rocks in road.

Don't these people realise that could of killed someone maybe even them selves IDIOTS.

Who are you talking to?

Where did who hear what?

[Francis44]

were did you here that??

That is disgusting that some PR!£& has tried to damage Loeb by putting rocks in road.

Don't these people realise that could of killed someone maybe even them selves IDIOTS.

No one has done something like that where did you heard that????

[morganmilan]

Nobody said that some people put rocks on the road right?
Ogier said it:"Guys in front of me put big rocks on the road" :mad:

[MartijnS]

Yeah, other drivers obvious.

[Francis44]

Ogier said it:"Guys in front of me put big rocks on the road" :mad:

He was talking about the drivers in front of him who cuted corners and some rocks moved to the road itself.

[N.O.T]

well... pity what happened to hirvonen.... 1 stage till the fat lady sings.

[morganmilan]

So, ok then... :)

[Mr.Sidewayz]

What really happened to Hirvonen? Did he finish the stage?

[MikeD]

What really happened to Hirvonen? Did he finish the stage?

Yes, but he's 1 min 25 sec after Loeb

[azblk]

Did wrc.com just crash?

[Neil J]

Yes, but he's 1 min 25 sec after Loeb

What happened?

[pino]

I guess it's over then...

[MartijnS]

No @ azblk

[MikeD]

What happened?

We only know that the bonnet blew up around split 2 and that Mikko had to use a minute or so to fix it...

He finished the stage without the bonnet according to WRR.

[paddocknews]

HIRVONEN M. / LEHTINEN J. "I need the miracle. All day I tried. After a jump bonnet pins are loosed. All bonnet ripped off, I had to stop."

[Francis44]

The miracle Hirvonen needs is Loeb's C4 getting caught out by the final verification.

[Tom206wrc]

That damn turbo can hamper Loeb's chance :mad:

[muscrae]

The very last stage has started...

[TMorel]

The miracle Hirvonen needs is Loeb's C4 getting caught out by the final verification.

The miracle Hirvonen needs is to drive faster next season and do it consistently! None of this settling for second. Somewhere between where his head is now and where Jari-Matti is would be perfect, a tempered agression.

[MartijnS]

Mikko his speed still good and it looks like the turbo is making it unfortunately ;)

[Salist]

-8,3....but too late. :(

[Sulland]

Petters last chance to win one this time around !

[muscrae]

Sébastien Loeb – Daniel Elena cruise the Sixth Consecutive World Rally Title, Congratulations !
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[MikeD]

:bounce: Yesssssssssssssssssss...Fücking yes!

Congratulations to Loeb, Citroën and all their fans .. including me :p :

And thanks for the fight from Ford and Hirvonen

[Salist]

Loeb in finish...

[PeteRobs]

WRR Seb said it as he came into control to WRR

[Salist]

Congratulations to Loeb.

[MartijnS]

The difference between MIkko and Sordo is only 0.1 second at the 4th split!

[jimakos]

:bounce: Yesssssssssssssssssss...Fücking yes!

Congratulations to Loeb, Citroën and all their fans .. including me :p :

And thanks for the fight from Ford and Hirvonen

Your last words seem you are a healthy fan of Loeb!!
I like it :up:

[TMorel]

How far is the final roadsection? How healthy is Sebs turbo?

[michpetter]

The miracle Hirvonen needs is to drive faster next season and do it consistently! None of this settling for second. Somewhere between where his head is now and where Jari-Matti is would be perfect, a tempered agression.

And maybe some team orders in Ford team - like in Citroen team this year. If there had been team orders in Italy Mikko would have been the world champion now...

Mikko was very consisten the whole year and never retired due to the crash - like Loeb did...

I still hope Sordo posts a blistering time on the last stage and wins the rally in front of Mikkko in 2nd and Loeb in 3rd :)

[bluuford]

Congratulation to Citroen team for winning his first drivers title ;-)
Loeb´s dominance has ended!

[White Sauron]

Wait for the final scrutineering ;) ))
Anyway, congratulations to Seb and Daniel - they're the best.

[Sulland]

Loeb and Elena congratulation with number 6 !

Congrats to Mikko as well, with keeping the pressure and exitement almost to the last ss, stupid reason to loose ti, but that is how it is !

[Francis44]

Congratulations to Loeb and Elena :up: .

[wotaguy]

congads on number 6, well done seb and daniel, roll on 201:)

[snellman]

SH*T but congrats to loeb/elena
mikko push it like that next year and you will be champion :)

[Tom206wrc]

HUUUURRRRAAAAAHHHH for Sébastien Loeb and Daniel Elena !!!! :cool: :cool:

[MartijnS]

Mikko keeps ahead of Sordo with 1 second :)

[TMorel]

And maybe some team orders in Ford team ...If there have been team orders in Italy Mikko would have been the world champion now...

Poor Malcolm can't win. He uses team orders he's in the wrong, he lets them fight, he's in the wrong.
Personally, I think getting Stobart/Citroen Junior cars to pull over for the official works team is seriously wrong but fair play to have not pulled over Jari-Matti.

[Wim_Impreza]

SH*T but congrats to loeb/elena
mikko push it like that next year and you will be champion :)

Not with 4 tarmac rounds in the championship...

[animrallye]

Congratulations to Loeb, Elena :p , Hirvonen and Lehtinen :)

[jimakos]

Well that's the end!!
One of the most rally thriller of the last years...
My congratsulations to S.Loeb,it seems nobody can win him!
My congratsulations to Mikko also because of his effort to take this title!!!!
He was fighting all the year but in the end a mistake costed the title...
Hope next year more drivers to fight for the championship ;)

[bluuford]

Who could imagine that in May? We had really exciting rally:-) I cannot imagine how can I wait until Sweden .. Ohh.. we have at least two IRC rallies before that.

[Buzz Lightyear]

Superb.

I like Citroen's style.. no bravado, just results.

Loeb is the daddy.

[mdesign]

Congrats to Loeb for winning yet another championship!
And big congrats for Mikko for making 2009 an not so boring year!

[N.O.T]

nice to see that the fastest driver of the season is the best as well....6 in a row now. A true rally legend in action

nicely done.

As for hirvonen he should keep the rally GB attitude for the next season as well if he wants to be a challenge and not a quiter.

And for those bitter boys who wished to have a champion not by driving can cry all they want....true rally fans feed of those losers tears.

[wotaguy]

i agree, ireland/germany back, ford got an uphill challenge, as long as loeb still has desire to win , he could be champion again in 2010, hope eyvind brings home pwrc victory :D

[N.O.T]

And big congrats for Mikko for making 2009 an not so boring year!

you should congratulate Loeb for that not hirvonen...his mistakes made the championship worth watching until the last stage

[PeteRobs]

Congrats to everyone that took part this year especially to Seb on winning his 6th title.


A big thanks to everyone on here for making this an even more enjoyable rallying experience fare play to you all :s mokin: :s mokin: :D :D :D

[bluuford]

I just realised that Mikko didnt had any mistakes (only blown engine in Argentina) during the whole year.. I cannot remamber such a thing from the past

[N.O.T]

as for Solberg he can only win a championship again and even a win in a wrc rally only in his fantasy land where all his fans live.


He showed absolutely nothing in GB

[N.O.T]

I just realised that Mikko didnt had any mistakes (only blown engine in Argentina) during the whole year.. I cannot remamber such a thing from the past

to make mistakes you have to push 100% not waiting in 2nd for the mistakes of others.

[Buzz Lightyear]

I can see Wilson being stepped into to Super 2000 Cup next year.

[snellman]

I just realised that Mikko didnt had any mistakes (only blown engine in Argentina) during the whole year.. I cannot remamber such a thing from the pasti think mikko learned from this year that he have to take risks like Loeb. if he keeps up the GB spirit for next season then he will be hard to beat :cool:
i would like a answer to this question thought: is citroen a stronger team?

[Salist]

Congratulations to Eyvind Brynildsen and Denis Giraudet.

[blissard]

as for Solberg he can only win a championship again and even a win in a wrc rally only in his fantasy land where all his fans live.

He showed absolutely nothing in GB

Dude, what's your problem? He did alright, considering it's his first gravel rally in the C4.

[r199]

@ N.O.T

u realy think the citroen boys let solberg finnis for the factory boys hahaha
that is not going to hapen

[Sulland]

:
as for Solberg he can only win a championship again and even a win in a wrc rally only in his fantasy land where all his fans live.


He showed absolutely nothing in GB

:s mokin: Have a cig NOT !

[wotaguy]

nice drive from Eyvind, back to back pwrc victories sweet :D very impressive driver

[snellman]

Dude, what's your problem? He did alright, considering it's his first gravel rally in the C4.
petter will never win a rally again, and you know it :D

[Tom206wrc]

@ N.O.T

u realy think the citroen boys let solberg finnis for the factory boys hahaha
that is not going to hapen


Neither at FORD anyway :rolleyes:

[r199]

let the super 2000/1600 cars come soon that makes is loads more fun a lot a fast drivers and already loads of cars in private hands so factory teams have no controle over them


btw Loeb concrets

[ShiftingGears]

Congratulations to Sebastian Loeb, Daniel Elena and Citroen. Congratulations to Hirvonen and Lehtinen, wouldn'tve picked them to be leading into the final rally at the start of the year.
Thumbs down to Malcolm Wilson who let a driver who was pathetic all season win a rally that cost Hirvonen crucial points.

[wotaguy]

nice drive from Eyvind, back to back pwrc victories sweet :D very impressive driver

[SubaruNorway]

nice drive from Eyvind, back to back pwrc victories sweet :D very impressive driver

Spain was not a PWRC event, but very good indeed :)

[wotaguy]

yeah i know, but he led home gp n was wot i meant

[wotaguy]

yeah i know, but he led home gp n was wot i meant

[bassist]

Allo over again!! Brilliant rally-I am pleased to have witnessed Seb`s amazing pace! Feel gutted for Mikko, it would be interesting to find out why he was off the pace in Crychan1 & Halfway1-I think with the exception of the bonnet these two stages could have cost him the title! great to see Petter going for it again. pity Malcom didnt give him Jari Matti`s seat next year.Jari is a spectacular driver, but once again he`s "Binned it", he`s just not ready!!

[shaitan]

what a fu#king year!
what a fu$king battle!and what a fu%king 6th title!

congratulations to Loeb, Elena

also Congratulations to mikko's performance!

[dimviii]

Congrats to Loeb/Elena for showing who is the master.
Before this rally if you had asked me who deserves the title,i d answer both.
In GB is clearly that Seb can win in every surface.
Mikko will have other chances to win a championship as he is enough young.


Waiting to see more from Petter,and i didn t saw something from a world champion.Sordo much more impressive imho.

In pwrc the level this year is under zero.When in strong national championships subi-evos are no near a s2000,in pwrc we can see evos and scubis winning stages.

Hope next year be more competetive,with more drivers in last rally driving for championship.

[bluuford]

One small statistical correction for http://www.vysledky-rally.cz/vysledky

Egon Kaur´s final time is not correct. He got stuck on the fourth stage yesterday and reached to the end over a hour later.. so therefore was out of contention and he got superally times for all those three stages.

[A.F.F.]

Congrats to Sebastien and Daniel :up:

True champion turned things over from a difficult situation. That is why he is a six times champion. Unbelievable frankly.

Congrats to Mikko and Jarmo for giving us a fair show. A rally year which after few rounds seemed to be the most boring turned out to be one of the most exciting :D

Next year will be more difficult but I believe one day Mikko will be the champ :up:

[bluuford]

Congrats to Sebastien and Daniel :up:

True champion turned things over from a difficult situation. That is why he is a six times champion. Unbelievable frankly.

Congrats to Mikko and Jarmo for giving us a fair show. A rally year which after few rounds seemed to be the most boring turned out to be one of the most exciting :D

Next year will be more difficult but I believe one day Mikko will be the champ :up:
Yeah, the fact that Loeb needed a lot help from his team and Citroen Junior team while Mikko was mostly like one car team driver and still was in the lead before the last round should give him a great confidence. I hope Loeb will not retire from the sport in next few years, otherwise Mikko will win almost all rallies :-P

[ste898]

Another dreadful year over as the robot contining to make these WRC years the worst ever ....

Hopefully 2010 will maybe be a bit interesting!!!

[Ucci]

Another dreadful year over as the robot contining to make these WRC years the worst ever ....

Hopefully 2010 will maybe be a bit interesting!!!

It will be definetly more interesting-we have four tarmac races, thank's god.....enough of this mud, stones, holes, as I said it is more like a gravel championship rather than a true WRC !!!
And Sebastian Loeb, you showed AGAIN !! that you are THE BEST !!! End of roumors, who will beat Mr.Seb...nowebody.
Still almost perfect drive from Mikko, I must admit. But against Loeb, not enough.

[Psycho!]

With four tarmac rounds both championships are locked for 2010 as well...Personally I am waiting for 2011,which could be like F1 this year...

[GigiGalliNo1]

With four tarmac rounds both championships are locked for 2010 as well...Personally I am waiting for 2011,which could be like F1 this year...

That's good or bad?

[A.F.F.]

That's good or bad?

Definately a good thing. :up:

[GigiGalliNo1]

Merci

[RS]

Yeah, the fact that Loeb needed a lot help from his team and Citroen Junior team while Mikko was mostly like one car team driver and still was in the lead before the last round should give him a great confidence. I hope Loeb will not retire from the sport in next few years, otherwise Mikko will win almost all rallies :-P

On the other hand you could say that if Mikko still cannot win it with Loeb's and Citroen's mistakes, a points system that favours consistency and only two tarmac rounds things don't look so good for him...

Personally I happen to think Mikko did a really good job this year but Loeb is still a bit ahead. Ford will need to improve on tarmac for Mikko to stand a chance next year.

[Ghostwalker]

Another dreadful year over as the robot contining to make these WRC years the worst ever ....

Hopefully 2010 will maybe be a bit interesting!!!

its hardly Seb's fault that Miko always plays safe and goes for 2nd place in hope that Seb make as a mistake?

Miko did not loose because of Citroen tactics, he lost because of his own tactic to drive safe and because Seb is a better driver then Miko.

Regarding team tactics i find it amusing that ford fans already have forgotten all the times Ford have used team tactics the past years to try to beat Seb.
The difference is that Seb won the title despite Fords tactics while Miko could not.

[ste898]

I've enjoyed the F1 this year watched very few WRC vents as they are sooooo boring now

[snellman]

are there rules to fit compressors in the cars for tarmac rounds? It would give them much more torque
Edit: will just s2000 cars be allowed in 2010 no group N cars?

[dimviii]

On the other hand you could say that if Mikko still cannot win it with Loeb's and Citroen's mistakes, a points system that favours consistency and only two tarmac rounds things don't look so good for him...

Personally I happen to think Mikko did a really good job this year but Loeb is still a bit ahead. Ford will need to improve on tarmac for Mikko to stand a chance next year.

Well said :)

[michpetter]

because Seb is a better driver then Miko.
and has a better car...


The difference is that Seb won the title despite Fords tactics while Miko could not.
Seb won the title thanks to Citroen 'tactics'.
Mikko lost the title because this year there was no team orders in Ford team.

[xspeedy]

Regarding team tactics i find it amusing that ford fans already have forgotten all the times Ford have used team tactics the past years to try to beat Seb.
The difference is that Seb won the title despite Fords tactics while Miko could not.

Agreed. If anything Ford was first to start playing tactics, forcing Citroen to respond. Citroen/Loeb didn't only win because of help and tactics - and even if they did, they were on a level playing field with Ford so no unfair advantages.

Congrats to Super Seb and Daniel for winning their sixth consecutive victory!

I also have to add that I was very impressed by Mikko and Sordo this year. And Petter did a fine job proving that Subaru may have had some blame in his poor past performances.

[serial jeff]

Congrats to Seb and Daniel! Mikko was also fantastic this season, as were Dani and Petter. Hopefully we'll see these four guys competing for the title next year since Dani has been improving on gravel- I'm sure he'll get his first victory next year, if Citroen allows him to :rolleyes: . JML once again provided a mostly unimpressive season, but he's still young so there's time to improve.

[Josti]

Congrats to Loeb and Elena, again. I expected more from Mikko in GB to be honest, but he drove a solid season nonetheless and at least gave us some excitement.

[A.F.F.]

I've enjoyed the F1 this year watched very few WRC vents as they are sooooo boring now

With all due respect Steven, what frustrates you more, WRC or that everyone seem to ignore your efforts to wind things up ? ;)

btw. Congrats to your fatherhood :up:

[wwbroe]

Congratulations for Seb and Daniel with their sixth consecutive title. I think iot is another deserved one, it was only because of some less interest in championship that Mikko could return in standings. I must admit tough that Mikko made some major improvements, especiually considering asfaltdriving. I have doubts that he can be treath to Seb next year, considering the four tarmac runs in the championship, but hey yoy never know for sure.
Also congratulations to Brynildsen, who took clear win in PWRC and this with a Belgian team run car. :) (Congrats to RGRS)

[Sulland]

Yes GTA, congratulation to you and the team as well, could get a habit in 10 if you give Eivind a good offer !

I guess that the factory will do IRC, and then you could do the World cup as a a factory light team !

[SubaruNorway]

Here it says Brynildsen is excluded, but he is still in the results...?
http://wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk=408&season=2009&rally_id=GB

[tolis]

No, Eyvind is not any more in the results. Unfortunately, he is excluded...

[cut the b.s.]

Another dreadful year over as the robot contining to make these WRC years the worst ever ....

Hopefully 2010 will maybe be a bit interesting!!!

I'm hoping Loeb and Citroen can continue winning WRC titles until Fords 'fans' learn to accept defeat gracefully.....

[eppel]

http://www.rallygb.org/documents/Stewards_Decision_No.5.PDF

[FAlonso]

Many congrats to Seb and the Citroen team for (once again) a job well done! An awesome drive on those Saturday stages that made the difference. Kudos to Mikko also for putting a great fight until the end. Let´s hope he comes back stronger next year!

In PWRC some great drives from Brynildsen, Nikkara and my countryman Armindo (first time in the Evo X and a lot of overheating problems but still second in Gr N in the end!)

EDIT: Just saw Brynildsen might have been excluded. Anybody know why? This means Armindo wins Gr N and Prokop wins PWRC.

[SubaruNorway]

ing ridiculous :(

[HaCo]

Damn, that's a pitty for RGRS :(

[Langdale Forest]

Post #1000 on this thread... longest one for a while

Most of the posts were by me!!! :D

[Langdale Forest]

Sebastien Loeb WRC Champion 2009!!! :champion:


One of the most exiting championship showdowns for many year and I think that if Hirvonen pushed like a true 'Flying Finn', he could have won the championship by 0.1 second or somthing microscopic!!! :dozey:

[bluuford]

- Rear brake calliper piston measurement; 2x30mm and 2x36mm
- Rear brake calliper piston information from A5721-02/01KSR: 2x38mm and 2 x44mm

So, as far as I understand, caliper pistons were both 8 mm smaller. Looks like another administrative error.

Edit: I was talking about Brynildsen Škoda

[Langdale Forest]

I don't think that anyone else has mentioned this but we have just had out last WRC event of the decade!

[pettersolberg29]

Just got home after two great days of watching. The gloomy Halfway 2 on Saturday was fantastic, as was Port Talbot today - especially the second running where at least 5 cars drove past us completely ripped apart! JML was sideways like a crab all down the long straights with his mechanical probs.

Much better service park this year for fans I think. Great to see Petter come out on Friday to sign things for all the fans waiting there for hours. Ignoring N.O.T (stand for Nagging Old Twit perhaps?), I thought Petter showed good potential to be competitive next year. If he competes in every round in a C4 next year I wouldn't be suprised to see him win an event or two. Remember he had a lot of windscreen/wiper trouble, he crashed a couple of times (yes, I know that's his fault) and its the 1st muddy event in a C4 for him.

Brynildsen looked good too, shame he was excluded. Sousa's Punto sounded great. A very good weekend overall - welll worth the 6 hours either way and camping in the back of the car! The wind was ridiculous up at Port Talbot - and the rain as bad.

p.s. I know it's not good for Mikko's fans, but at least his problems meant I left Port Talbot with a bit of his bonnet!

[gloomyDAY]

I don't think that anyone else has mentioned this but we have just had out last WRC event of the decade!The last one I will watch for a long time. I'm not even going to bother with the WRC until 2011 and maybe there will be something wortwhile to watch.

[VFTS]

Brynildsen excluded from the event because of a mistake from the producer.
Loeb got only 1min penalty in Australia because of a mistake from the producer(Citroën)....

Where is the justice...??

FIA.....France.....I will not mention anymore.

[r199]

So the fia gave the title to Loeb?????
giving him only a miner timepeanalty for a non reagular part
and exclude an other driver??????????

FIA rules are FUBAR

[Langdale Forest]

I agree the the FUBAR!

[SubaruNorway]

Smaller pistons shouldn't exactly be performance enhanching from what i know so very hard to exclude him. Nice way to ruin a coming stars future...

[Langdale Forest]

What driver are you talking about?

[SubaruNorway]

What driver are you talking about?

Me? Brynildsen

[Sulland]

Did Brynildsen or RGRS apeal the stewards decision ?

[ITC55]

Don't know if anyone mentioned it, But a great drive from Criag Breen this year to win the Fiesta International championship, along with the irish and british fiesta titles and Irish junior championship in his first season rallying
Don't know what his plans are for next year but certainly looks like a talent for the future

[JFL]

Did Brynildsen or RGRS apeal the stewards decision ?

wrc.com wrote:

Brynildsen's team did not to appeal the decision, which means Mitsubishi driver Martin Prokop was promoted from second to first place.

[Sulland]

Why has this not been seen by stewards before, in Spain or in IRC all year ? Tipped off ?

Had Brynildsen gotten the same reaction as Loeb 1 min in addition to the time, then he had still won, and these pistons was smaller than they should have been, and anyway did not have a big impact on the car I think !

[Francis44]

After seeing the footage of Mikko bonnet breaking up i have to say it was not bad luck....He was pushing fast and went too fast to the jump, the car landed on it's nose and the suspension broke the bonnet supports.

[N.O.T]

Don't know if anyone mentioned it, But a great drive from Criag Breen this year to win the Fiesta International championship, along with the irish and british fiesta titles and Irish junior championship in his first season rallying
Don't know what his plans are for next year but certainly looks like a talent for the future


talent for the future...he got annihilated by athanasoulas in spain in his first ever outing in the car and athanasoulas is definately not a talent for the future

[urabus-denoS2000]

Don't know if anyone mentioned it, But a great drive from Criag Breen this year to win the Fiesta International championship, along with the irish and british fiesta titles and Irish junior championship in his first season rallying
Don't know what his plans are for next year but certainly looks like a talent for the future

Congratulations to him but did he have any competiton in those championships?

[Francis44]

talent for the future...he got annihilated by athanasoulas in spain in his first ever outing in the car and athanasoulas is definately not a talent for the future

I dont understand why all the hype behind Athanasoulas, won Greece with poor PWRC entry list and that was about it.

[dimviii]

I dont understand why all the hype behind Athanasoulas, won Greece with poor PWRC entry list and that was about it.

Can you remember me another driver,who has to drive for a year,he rents a car that we haven t ever see in Greece,and is faster from this year pwrc champion(Araujo),Arai(again champion) Al Attiyah(again doyble champion).
Also faster than Flodin,Sousa,Sandell with same car.Prokop current jwrc champion and second at pwrc with more than 20 rallies this year much slower.He drives at Catalunia again for first time the fiestar2 and is faster again against the only fast crew(Breen)
What do you expect more?To beat Loeb or Hirvonen with the fabia maybe? :disturb:

[tolis]

@dimvii:Fully agree with you and let's all hope he finds the bydget for more WRC rallies!!!

[PLuto]

@dimvii:Fully agree with you and let's all hope he finds the bydget for more WRC rallies!!!

Or better any other championship than boring WRC ;)

[Allyc85]

Just got back from a soaking at Rally GB.

Had a great time watching some great action on Rhondda before getting VIP access with Ford at the service area, which was amazing! Met Malcom Wilson and Hirvonen but he was understandably a bit down with the gap so big to Loeb :(

Today we watched from Walters Arena on Rehola which was pretty good as im not normally a fan of areas superficially made for the fans but we saw some great air over the jumps and commitment from Petter Solberg and Miko Hirvonen.

Was gutted when I heard about Mikkos problems as I really do feel he should be the champion this year with his speed and consistency and keeping to the rules :p

[Juha_Koo]

Just saw onboards of JM's and Ogier's offs. Much bigger ones what I had thought. JM had clearly made a mistake in the recce concerning the note(s) after the finish. Then again I felt that maybe Miikka read the note few tenths of a second too late. Whatever, they finished.

Ogier's place seemed rather familiar, huh? Wasn't it the same corner that has cought out Petter, Pons, Sordo, etc. in the history? Atleast looked just like it. After a long straight, combination of right and left which narrows and feels like it has wrong camber on the right hander too. And a bank on the left that takes the impacts. Hopefully Julien's foot is okay, looked like it took some impact.

As for the overall rally, congratulations to Sebastien and Daniel. You really deserved the title, no question about it. After the Saturday morning I knew that game was over for Mikko and Jarmo. I have to say this was one helluva season. Ups and downs all the time.

[Buzz Lightyear]

Congratulations to him but did he have any competiton in those championships?

I never worry about all these pre-madonna's. There is no hiding place when they buy their way to the top.

[toras]

Rally GB photos day 3:
http://rallynews.pl/lang.en/no/galeria/368

[Langdale Forest]

Was gutted when I heard about Mikkos problems as I really do feel he should be the champion this year with his speed and consistency and keeping to the rules :p

Keeping to the rules is one thing that Citroen has never done. :mad:

[ShiftingGears]

Keeping to the rules is one thing that Citroen has never done. :mad:

What a ridiculous statement. Just accept that Citroen won fairly.

[Karukera]

Congratulations to Citroën and Loeb / Elena for the double crown, 6th in a row for Loeb. Like the Big Mäk' said, it will be very hard to beat.

Very tasty to win there on Ford's lands. :beer:

Hirvonen was really up to the challenge except in a fatal couple of stages. Great consistency during the whole championship, impressive in fact, congrats to him too. :up:

[Langdale Forest]

What a ridiculous statement. Just accept that Citroen won fairly.

When Ford cheated with the windows in Portugal 2007, it was an accidental cheat, not delibarate.

[urabus-denoS2000]

I never worry about all these pre-madonna's. There is no hiding place when they buy their way to the top.


True.I mean if he has beaten 3 crews in Ireland,4 in UK and 3 in WRC (whilst probably being the only one who competed in all rallys) then that isn't really a success for a future prospect,isn't it? :D

[ShiftingGears]

When Ford cheated with the windows in Portugal 2007, it was an accidental cheat, not delibarate.

Your point being...?

[Langdale Forest]

It was an ACIDENT and malcolm wilson did not attempt to cheat!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Francis44]

It was an ACIDENT and malcolm wilson did not attempt to cheat!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes because 5mm smaller windows would totally make a difference on the performance of the car / sarcasm.

[teufel]

Yes because 5mm smaller windows would totally make a difference on the performance of the car / sarcasm.

If i remember well there were no 5mm difference...

[ShiftingGears]

It was an ACIDENT and malcolm wilson did not attempt to cheat!!!!!!!!!!!!

Congratulations. That doesn't prove your claim that Citroen cheats all the time, let alone occasionally.

[cut the b.s.]

When Ford cheated with the windows in Portugal 2007, it was an accidental cheat, not delibarate.


you are ignoring theugsquirrels question, you made a dumb comment.
Are all UK Ford fans a bunch of bad losers? I'd have thought through practice if nothing else they would have been quite good at it by now?

[alexlake]

what a great rally, loved it, if a bit too wet. Found some great places to view it from and it was so easy to tell how hard loeb and mikko were pushing. Made for a great weekend and those two were in a different timezone!. so full on.

glad loeb won and looking forward to another battle between them next year!

[Allyc85]

Was meant to say I think I was on Finnish TV on saturday night. Was in the Ford service park where Mikko was getting interviewed at the end of the day and I was in the back ground wearing a grey coat with orange flashes on it. If any of our finnish friends on here could take a look and maybe upload the clip that would be great :D ;)

[Gard]

Had FIA been consistent in their penaltys. Mikko would have been world champion

[Mirek]

Or in opposite way champion in PWRC would be also different...

[Gard]

So FIA decided both WRC and PWRC championships. This has become a farce

[Mintexmemory]

Congratulations to Mssrs. Loeb &b Elena. I wanted Mikko to do the business but I fear that Citroen are just a much more professional outfit than M-Sport Ford. How many times has a C4 engine blown this season? At the w/e Mikko had to worry about potential half -shaft failure, an ECU malfunction and a bonnet flying open. Bonnet lifting has been a problem in rallying since the earliest days. The design of the Focus bonnet should have a fastening and hinge system that doesnt catastrophically fail because of a heavy landing (front end shunts are different). Pentti was critical in the past about the Focus design, could it be that Seb is also a much better development driver than the rest or does Mikko not get his concerns addressed. Either way, unless there are big changes in Ford next season we'll be congratulating Seb on his 7th WRC win this time next year.

[ste898]

Keeping to the rules is one thing that Citroen has never done. :mad:


Someone else has notced too,!!!!

[chrisi]

my video from the rally

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncfJYNZX-2s

enjoy :)

[bluuford]

my video from the rally

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncfJYNZX-2s

enjoy :)

If the video is good they I tend to forget that I am at work.. ups it happened again :-)