[IRC/ERC]Rally Vinho Madeira 2009

[Madeira]

30th July to 1st August 2009

First reports:
We will celebrate fifty years of rally and thirty years taking part of ERC

Official website (http://www.ralivm.com/)
European Rally Championship (http://www.rally-erc.com)
Intercontinental Rally Challenge (http://www.ircseries.com/html/)
Portugal Rally Championship (http://www.cnralis.com/)
Madeira "Coral" Rally Championship

Supplementary Regulations (http://www.fpak.pt/REG%20PROVAS%202009/RALI%20VINHO%20MADEIRA/REG%20RALLY%20VINHO%20MADEIRA%20%20(UK).pdf)

Itinerary (http://www.fpak.pt/REG%20PROVAS%202009/RALI%20VINHO%20MADEIRA/REG%20RALI%20VINHO%20MADEIRA%20-%20Appendix%20I%20Itinerary.pdf)

Another Regulations (http://www.fpak.pt/REG%20PROVAS%202009/RALI%20VINHO%20MADEIRA/REG%20RALLY%20VINHO%20MADEIRA%20-%20Appendixes%20II%20to%20VIII.pdf)

Sakedown move from Wednesday to Thursday morning, and it looks there is a new SS (Lameiros).

[Sardalense]

I will be there :)

[Madeira]

I will be there :)
Sejas bem-vindo Sardalense!

About the new SS, Lameiros, I guess that should be the mythical Rosário with another name and a little bit more long...

[Madeira]

Promotional Video of the 2009 edition! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcqWD4SF9tk&feature=player_embedded)

[karlzoro]

If i understand this for 100% than it says that tabaco publicity is alowed @ RVM '09???
http://www.ralismadeira.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=845&Itemid=53

[claudio]

Yes it`s allowed and I think that it`s a great ideia

[karlzoro]

Yes it`s allowed and I think that it`s a great ideia
that could open nice perspectives for the organisation and (some)drivers....
for example: a Marlboro 207... :s mokin:

[J4MIE]

Yes it`s allowed and I think that it`s a great ideia

Sorry I disagree, but guess it's due to the islands being an autonomy.

Looks a stunning island though, I am growing fond of island events :up:

[Luis Pacheco]

The tobacco question is very sensitive. The European Union explicitly prohibits tobacco advertising in all the states members.
Madeira has a tobacco company and has its own production of tobacco but in their Azores factory. Because of this the Madeira governement is alloweding publicity of Madeiran tobacco brands this year, something that was not allowed this year by the Azorean goverment so the two cars of Além Mar Team appeared with white rectangles instead "Além Mar" in the Azores Rallye.

At the moment the Madeira tobacco company does not support any team in the Island championship. Maybe they will support the organization but not a team in particular.
Perhaps Fernando Peres and Ricardo Moura will appears with "Além Mar" brand, maybe ...

[Madeira]

Monday, 15th of June, closing date for entries at reduced fee. At the moment we have 13 crews on the list.
Does anyone knows something about the french driver Richard Frau?

Thank you.

[Mirek]

He was driving Rally Monte Carlo this year and after SS6 he was second classic group N driver behind Wittmann (12th overal), after that he retired.

[Madeira]

]He was driving Rally Monte Carlo this year and after SS6 he was second classic group N driver behind Wittmann (12th overal), after that he retired.

Thank you Mirek, it looks Richard Frau is one of the drivers that already has done the inscription for 2009 edition.

[Madeira]

According a local journal, Nasser Al-Attiyah are trying to find budget to be present in the rally...

[Madeira]

Julien Maurin with Skoda S2000!

Is it true GTA? :)

[PLuto]

Julien Maurin with Skoda S2000!

Is it true GTA? :)

It was written in some article two months ago that it should be possible.

[Raven]

Any chances for official Skoda team on Madeira?

[Luis Pacheco]

It was written in some article two months ago that it should be possible.

Even before the Azores.
http://alojamentos19.com/~ralis/mauriennosta09.html

[PLuto]

Any chances for official Skoda team on Madeira?

Not so big chances. But we will see after Ypres (and Russia).

[Tom206wrc]

OK...Ypres being finish we can go back to this thread for news :D ;)

[Madeira]

After ypres, can I start to dream with the presence of Skoda here, or not?

[Raven]

I also hope to see Skoda official team live finally! ;)

[Madeira]

I also hope to see Skoda official team live finally! ;)


Are you planning to come Madeira??

well, if yes, Welcome!!! :wave:

[Raven]

I always wanted to taste Coral beer ;) I hope I won't be disappointed?

[Luis Pacheco]

Foreign drivers already with the entry done:

Corrado Fontana (Peugeot 207 S2000)
Michael Solowow (Peugeot 207 S2000)
Giandomenico Basso (Fiat Punto S2000)
Luca Rossetti (Fiat Punto S2000)
Julien Maurin (Skoda Fabia S2000)
Denis Millet (Peugeot RC)
Richard Frau (Mitsubishi Evo IX)
Marco Cavigioli (Fiat Punto S2000)

[Luis Pacheco]

More confirmations made today by the organization:

Nicolas Vouilloz (Peugeot 207 S2000)
Kris Meeke (Peugeot 207 S2000)
Freddy Loix (Peugeot 207 S2000)
Corrado Fontana (Peugeot 207 S2000)
Michael Solowow (Peugeot 207 S2000)
Giandomenico Basso (Fiat Punto S2000)
Luca Rossetti (Fiat Punto S2000)
Julien Maurin (Skoda Fabia S2000)
Denis Millet (Peugeot RC)
Richard Frau (Mitsubishi Evo IX)
Marco Cavigioli (Fiat Punto S2000)

[Raven]

Not enough yest... ;)

[RS]

No Alen again.

I guess after Rally Russia we won't see him again till Scotland in November.

[teufel]

No Alen again.

I guess after Rally Russia we won't see him again till Scotland in November.

Because Casier was a great replacement for Alen...

[Mirek]

Casier was for Ypres only. Now I expect Rossetti to start instead of Alen on all possible tarmac rounds (which doesn't colide with CIR).

[Tom206wrc]

Will Luca Betti and Krum Donchev take part to the event too :confused: :confused:

[Raven]

Tom, check here: http://www.rally-erc.com/page.php?cont=34
But for example Donchev was on Ypres, so nothing is sure.

Madeira looks like the most expensive ERC rally.

[Madeira]

Bernardo Sousa will be present with Fiat Punto S2000 from Procar!

others:
Ricardo Teodósio EVO VIII MR (?)- Really show man!
Ricardo Moura (Azores champion)

[Tom206wrc]

Tom, check here: http://www.rally-erc.com/page.php?cont=34
But for example Donchev was on Ypres, so nothing is sure.

Madeira looks like the most expensive ERC rally.



Any slight possibilities to see Travaglia then ??? :confused:

[Wim_Impreza]

]Casier was for Ypres only. Now I expect Rossetti to start instead of Alen on all possible tarmac rounds (which doesn't colide with CIR).

I was thinking that too.

If Casier finds the budget, he should participate in Barum, Sanremo and Rallye du Condroz.

[karlzoro]

Casier told on shakedown: "Alen is back in San Remo, maybe we could start in Barum"...no we must wait :rolleyes:

[PLuto]

Casier told on shakedown: "Alen is back in San Remo, maybe we could start in Barum"...no we must wait :rolleyes:

Better to listen interview with him in the finish of Ypres.

[wwbroe]

Better to listen interview with him in the finish of Ypres.

What did he say in that intervieuw Pluto? ;)

[RS]

Because Casier was a great replacement for Alen...

Casier was certainly quicker than Alen, but the Punto let him down.

As said, I would expect Rossetti to do all the remaining tarmac events.

I think Hanninen showed in Ypres that Alen's slow learning on tarmac is not good enough.

[karlzoro]

Better to listen interview with him in the finish of Ypres.

What did he tell then Pluto?
I didn't hear the interview...

[Mirek]

Interwievs are here: http://www.rally-erc.com/

[[Madeira-Rally]]

What did he tell then Pluto?
I didn't hear the interview...

He said he have nothing confirmed... he is trying to find budget to do other events...

[karlzoro]

]He said he have nothing confirmed... he is trying to find budget to do other events...

I heard it also now ;)

[Luis Pacheco]

Proton will be there!

http://www.ralismadeira.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=971&Itemid=45

[Mirek]

I think that now it's sure Škoda won't be on Madeira because Juho entered NORF...

[Madeira]

]I think that now it's sure Škoda won't be on Madeira because Juho entered NORF...

But It does not means that is not possible to bring to Rally of Madeira one car at least. It will depends of Kopecky's result in Russia.Remember the entries will be closed only at 13th July...

[PLuto]

Of course it is possible, but chance is very, very small...

[Madeira]

Next weekend will be held the next round of Madeira Championship. In order to prepare the better way next Rally Vinho Madeira, Bruno Magalhães will be present with whole structure of Peugeot Portugal

some pics taken yesterday...
http://www.ralismadeira.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=988&Itemid=41

[Tom206wrc]

Next weekend will be held the next round of Madeira Championship. In order to prepare the better way next Rally Vinho Madeira, Bruno Magalhães will be present with whole structure of Peugeot Portugal

some pics taken yesterday...
http://www.ralismadeira.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=988&Itemid=41



And entrylist :p :
http://www.fpak.pt/REG%20PROVAS%202009/RALI%20MARITIMO/RALI%20DO%20MARITIMO%20-%20LISTA%20INSCRITOS.pdf

Pitty Pascoal runs only on a 2wd 206 :mark:

[Luis Pacheco]

Albert Llovera with the Punto S2000 is also confirmed.
http://www.ralismadeira.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=996&Itemid=45

Two GT cars possible (Aston Martin and the Porsche)
http://www.ralismadeira.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=998&Itemid=45

[racing_piet]

Hello,

I'm new here on the forum. :)

We have planned our trip to Madeira to see the IRC rally (and also 2 weeks holiday) this year. We were on the Madeira rally 2 years ago too, my father-in-law lives in Funchal. Beautiful rally on a super location. ;)
Now I'm looking for some good (spectacular) places to see the rally. We found a few good places, but I'm sure that there are more (and better).Can you give me some tips for the different specials please?

racing_piet@yahoo.com

Thanks!
greetz
Pieter

[306 Cosworth]

Two GT cars possible (Aston Martin and the Porsche)
http://www.ralismadeira.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=998&Itemid=45

Is that a DBRS9 being used as a rally car?

[Tom206wrc]

Will we see Enrique Garcia Ojeda, even in the Subaru N14 ???? :confused:

[principe IRC]

I'm going to visit the rally this year, and I was wondering about the status of the Shakedown. I know it is by the airport area and S. Antonio da Serra
but it does not appear on rally maps.

[claudio]

Is that a DBRS9 being used as a rally car?

Yes, it is

Watch it here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAl_CN6y9Bw&feature=related

[Madeira]

I'm going to visit the rally this year, and I was wondering about the status of the Shakedown. I know it is by the airport area and S. Antonio da Serra
but it does not appear on rally maps.
It is very easy. Your reference can be the golf course of Santo da Serra and my advise is to go for the last corner of the stage.

here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2hofdgEiCg

[Mirek]

Yes, it is

Watch it here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAl_CN6y9Bw&feature=related

DBRS-9? Wau, that's probably the strongest car used in rallying in last few years. DBRS-9 has 6.0 V12 with some 550 Hp! :eek:

[Luis Pacheco]

Last week the car made is debut at Portugal two whell drive championship. José Pedro Fontes was third overall.

http://www.fotosralis.online.pt/vilaverdetf09/images/t-14.jpg

photo: http://www.ralis.online.pt

[TheFlyingTuga]

]DBRS-9? Wau, that's probably the strongest car used in rallying in last few years. DBRS-9 has 6.0 V12 with some 550 Hp! :eek:

Hehe! The car has been modified for rallying by Sports&You. Also they prepare the Porsche for Mex, and the Subaru's N14 and N12 of Barroso Pereira and Pedro Rodrigues.

Anyway, the car is also used in track racing, like the Spanish GT champ or the Portuguese Resistance Championship.

I had a little talk with António Costa (Zé Pedro co-driver) and he told me that the car it wasn't 100% ready for rallying. A lot of work in the suspension have to be done. But, It looks really cool, and the V12 sound blow my ear away!

Cheers

[JRodrigues]

Last week the car made is debut at Portugal two whell drive championship. José Pedro Fontes was third overall.

http://www.fotosralis.online.pt/vilaverdetf09/images/t-14.jpg

photo: http://www.ralis.online.pt

Hey! that's me in the background with the SWRT cap :D :D the car sounds awesome, and even though it still has the GT races' gearbox it goes really really fast on the straights.. Can't imagine it with short ratios :cool: I was there with TheFlyingTuga, and the Porsche was also very good.. easier to drive, but lot's of power as well :cool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2xexO0SjQQ&feature=related

really hope they go to Madeira

[GTA]

It was written in some article two months ago that it should be possible.

No, the Skoda is NOT from RGRS, we do not work any more with mr Maurin...

[alleskids]

@ GTA, do you know which team will service the Skoda for (mr) Maurin?

[pucky54]

A-Style ?

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Hum, I have a feeling that Maurin's IRC programme is over...

[Madeira]

It looks that Luigi Fontana Peugeot 207 S2000 and Marco Bernardelli Fiat Punto S2000 were added to the entries..

[racing_piet]

Were can you find the entrylist of the Madeira rally?
When I look on the website I get a white page when I click the entrylist.

[Luis Pacheco]

http://www.ralivm.com/news/index.cfm

[wwbroe]

Were can you find the entrylist of the Madeira rally?
When I look on the website I get a white page when I click the entrylist.

Piet, you have to wait a little bit longer, official entrylist will be published only on wednesday 22th of juli. ;)

[Luis Pacheco]

No, the Skoda is NOT from RGRS, we do not work any more with mr Maurin...

We will see the Skoda in the hands of a local driver?

[karlzoro]

We will see the Skoda in the hands of a local driver?

Who do you mean: Sousa? Sa? :rolleyes: or are ther other (fast) local hero's than Camacho, Freitas & Nunes...and Peres but he's not local :p ;)

[Luis Pacheco]

Vitor Sa with a Skoda Fabia was a possibilitie. But now he is sure with a Peugeot 206 S1600.

[Madeira]

Guy Wilks, Davide di Benedetto (Peugeot 207 S200) and Luca Betti added...

[Luis Pacheco]

And big chances to Kopecky be at Madeira integrated into a private structure since Skoda is officially on the same date of the Madeira Rallye in Finland with Hanninen. All to be known next Monday.

[PLuto]

Yes, after his second place in Russia there is big chance to see Kopecky in Madeira.

[GTA]

RGRS will normally NOT be in Madeira with the Fabia or Polo, We concentrate now on Barum.. ( or something must change on Monday, then the entry closes )...

[Andrey]

And big chances to Kopecky be at Madeira integrated into a private structure since Skoda is officially on the same date of the Madeira Rallye in Finland with Hanninen. All to be known next Monday.
As i know, official Skoda will not present on NORF and Juho will rent a Fabia from another team.

[claudio]

What team Andrey??? A-Style?? Rene-georges???

[Wim_Impreza]

There is no chance that we see a Fabia from René Georges in Madeira. If the team from RGRS does an IRC round with the Fabia this year, than it will be in Barum Rally.

[PLuto]

We will see tomorrow...

[Raven]

Any forum meeting on Madeira Rally? ;)

[Raven]

It looks today the entry list will be published:
http://ralivm.com/news/newsDetails.cfm?NID=581

[[Madeira-Rally]]

I think it's not the entry list, they will announce the names of drivers that will be in the rally...

[alleskids]

Entry list and names of drivers that wil start is virtual the same isn't it? I cannot open the file. Can someone give a goodlink, or the most important names? Please?

[Luis Pacheco]

Click "by driver" and you have the names.
http://www.ralivm.com/onlineResults/index.cfm

[Raven]

No Skoda :(
The rest is as I thought it would be.

[claudio]

Estrangeiros:

Marco Cavigioli (Fiat Grand Punto S2000)
Giandomenico Basso (Fiat Grand Punto Abarth S2000)
Luca Rossetti (Fiat Grand Punto Abarth S2000)
Corrado Fontana (Peugeot 207 S2000)
Luigi Fontana (Peugeot 207 S2000)
Luca Betti (Peugeot 207 S2000)
Marco Bernardelli (Fiat Punto S2000)
Rocco Peduzzi (Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX)
Davide di Benedetto (Peugeot 207 S2000)
Richard Frau (Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX)
Nicolas Vouilloz (Peugeot 207 S2000)
Julien Maurin (Skoda Fabia S2000)
Denis Millet (Peugeot 207 RC Rallye)
Michal Solowow (Peugeot 207 S2000)
Freddy Loix (Peugeot 207 S2000)
Kris Meeke (Peugeot 207 S2000)
Guy Wilks (Proton Satria S2000)
Albert Llovera Massana (Fiat Punto S2000)
Antonin Tlustak (Citroën C2 S1600)


Continentais (incluindo Açores):


Bruno Magalhães (Peugeot 207 S2000)
Vítor Pascoal (Peugeot 207 S2000)
Fernando Peres (Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX)
Adruzilo Lopes (Subaru Impreza N14)
Pedro Meireles (Subaru Impreza N14)
Ricardo Moura (Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX)
Luís Rego (Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX)
Hermano Couto (Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VIII)


Madeirenses:


Alexandre Camacho (Peugeot 207 S2000)
Miguel Nunes (Peugeot 207 S2000)
Vítor Sá (Peugeot 206 S1600)
Bernardo Sousa (Fiat Punto S2000)
João Magalhães (Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX)
Filipe Freitas (Renault Clio S1600)
Rui Pinto (Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX)
José Camacho (Peugeot 206 S1600)

[RS]

Is this final? No chance for Skoda to add?

[Raven]

R. Madeira is Rui Madeira? In Skoda Fabia TDi?

[Madeira]

R. Madeira is Rui Madeira? In Skoda Fabia TDi?

Yes, it is Rui Madeira but he will drive a Evo IX.

No chance to see any factory Skoda this year!

[[Madeira-Rally]]

I'ts not a bad entry list, but for sure isn't fantastic.

Half of S2000 cars, are driven by slow drivers... with no chance to fight for a top place.

I doubt about the participation of Julien Maurin with a Skoda Fabia S2000...

And I hope Fiat can change their lucky and performance here in Madeira with a victory of Basso or even Rossetti, but for sure it will be really difficult against official Peugeot drivers.

It's a shame to not see Witman Jr. here in Madeira or another "good" driver. (for the show) :)

It's a shame too to not see any big name from the old times in the entry list... like, Snijers, Aghini, Longhi, Biasion, Tabaton, Loubet, Drogmans, Liatti, etc etc... even if some of them are slow nowadays.... It's 50th edition of the rally and 30 edition in ERC, last year, Paulo Fontes (from the organization) said that they would do a big effort to bring some "historic" drivers to the rally, and I don't see any historic driver... it's a shame :(

Let's see if some driver will appear in some celebration of the rally, as a guest, but without any car...

[Raven]

It's 50th edition of the rally and 30 edition in ERC, last year, Paulo Fontes (from the organization) said that they would do a big effort to bring some "historic" drivers to the rally, and I don't see any historic driver... it's a shame :(
I think world crisis is also presesnt on Madeira :(
I also had a hope to see big names out of IRC/ERC world.

[GTA]

I think world crisis is also presesnt on Madeira :(
I also had a hope to see big names out of IRC/ERC world.

We did our best to bring Patrick Snijers with the Skoda Fabia to Madeira and a possible big ex WRC Driver... unfortunately did not work.... and we can not go and drive there for free.!... next round for RGRS.... IRC Barum.

[FabiaFan]

.... and we can not go and drive there for free.!... next round for RGRS.... IRC Barum. With whom?!?

[[Madeira-Rally]]

With whom?!?

In Madeira there were rumours about Atkinson

[Wim_Impreza]

We did our best to bring Patrick Snijers with the Skoda Fabia to Madeira and a possible big ex WRC Driver... unfortunately did not work.... and we can not go and drive there for free.!... next round for RGRS.... IRC Barum.

I think with Patrick Snijers in Barum, am I right? :)

[FabiaFan]

]In Madeira there were rumours about Atkinson

Wow! Would have been great!!!

[FabiaFan]

I think with Patrick Snijers in Barum, am I right? :)

Mhmm... Would not be that great...

[Rallytourist]

I think with Patrick Snijers in Barum, am I right? :)

I Think also . For the troubles Snijers had in Ypres it would be a good gift of RGRS :D

[RS]

I would rather have seen Duval in the Fabia again for Barum as I think that if Francois had kept it on the road on Ypres it would have been an awesome combination. Snijers is better than nothing (and Maurin)

[Mirek]

Guys, this threat is about Madeira, not Barum ;)

[wwbroe]

Can somebody tell me what the changes are in the stages compared to last year. I don't see too many changes. Looks like Serra d'Agua is stage Rosario of 2008 and a litlle longer at start. Lameiros looks like Serra d'Agua from last year and litlle longer at finish. Are there any more changes compared to last year? Thanks in advance. If anybody has the stages in Google Earth, that would be awesome also. ;)

[Madeira]

Can somebody tell me what the changes are in the stages compared to last year. I don't see too many changes. Looks like Serra d'Agua is stage Rosario of 2008 and a litlle longer at start. Lameiros looks like Serra d'Agua from last year and litlle longer at finish. Are there any more changes compared to last year? Thanks in advance. If anybody has the stages in Google Earth, that would be awesome also. ;)
The rally is absolutely the same. The only changes were in Serra d'Agua with the same name last year, and Lameiros which was the "Rosário Stage" last year. The stage is the same a little bit more longer than previous years.

Serra d'Agua SS6 and SS10-they will run on Friday and starts from South to North of the island.(2008-Serra d'Agua)

Lameiros SS16 and SS20-They will run on Saturday and starts from North to the South of the island.(2008-Rosário)

[wwbroe]

The rally is absolutely the same. The only changes were in Serra d'Agua with the same name last year, and Lameiros which was the "Rosário Stage" last year. The stage is the same a little bit more longer than previous years.

Serra d'Agua SS6 and SS10-they will run on Friday and starts from South to North of the island.(2008-Serra d'Agua)

Lameiros SS16 and SS20-They will run on Saturday and starts from North to the South of the island.(2008-Rosário)

Ok Madeira, thank you for this valuable info, you don't have the stages in Google Earth by any coinsidense? :D

[Madeira]

Ok Madeira, thank you for this valuable info, you don't have the stages in Google Earth by any coinsidense? :D
well, I would like to help you but I don't know how this things works in google Earth.... :confused:

[wwbroe]

well, I would like to help you but I don't know how this things works in google Earth.... :confused:

No worries Madeira. :D I will figure it out, no problem, thanks for your help. ;)

[Sardalense]

No worries Madeira. :D I will figure it out, no problem, thanks for your help. ;)

The main problem is that most of the stages are covered by trees, so we can´t see the roads :(

[wwbroe]

The main problem is that most of the stages are covered by trees, so we can´t see the roads :(

Yes, ofcourse, that is problem with Google Earth. But thanks anyhow for the info. :D

[principe IRC]

Ok Madeira, thank you for this valuable info, you don't have the stages in Google Earth by any coinsidense? :D



These are the stages in Google Earth to which I will attend.
I hope you helpful.


-CAMPO GOLF


http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/7391/campogolf.jpg


-SANTANA


Start: http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/1828/santanastart.jpg


Finish: http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/8379/santanafinish.jpg


-PAUL


Start: http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/4968/paulstart.jpg


Finish: http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/8988/paulfinish.jpg


-CHAO LAGOA


Start: http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/5696/chaolagoastart.jpg


Middle stage: http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/152/chaolagoamiddlestage.jpg


Finish: http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/1699/chaolagoafinish.jpg

[wwbroe]

Thank you, principe IRC, it surely is helpfull. ;)

[Madeira]

These are the stages in Google Earth to which I will attend.
I hope you helpful.


-CAMPO GOLF


http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/7391/campogolf.jpg


-SANTANA


Start: http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/1828/santanastart.jpg


Finish: http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/8379/santanafinish.jpg


-PAUL


Start: http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/4968/paulstart.jpg


Finish: http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/8988/paulfinish.jpg


-CHAO LAGOA


Start: http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/5696/chaolagoastart.jpg


Middle stage: http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/152/chaolagoamiddlestage.jpg


Finish: http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/1699/chaolagoafinish.jpg

And what about Lameiros??? if I was you I try to go for there...well, lot of people, good athmosphere,very interesting. The last corner of the stage!!
here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3SapcQSebo ( after minute 1:30 and last corner 2:25)

[Luis Pacheco]

The final curves of Santana stage are amazing. I was there last year and was great but a little danger to be there watching.

[Madeira]

The Italian driver Manuel Villa was the last registration to the rally. He will drive as usual the Fiat Punto S1600.

[Raven]

So, there will be no official forum beer on Madeira? Who is going to spectate the rally?

[Tom206wrc]

Strange Vitor Sà chose a 206 S1600 :confused:

[Mirek]

So, there will be no official forum beer on Madeira? Who is going to spectate the rally?

Wait few days, Pluto is in Bulgaria :D

[karlzoro]

The final curves of Santana stage are amazing. I was there last year and was great but a little danger to be there watching.

I heard it from Buysmans last year that @ the end of Santana there are some amazing corners...
We went also to Santana. On 1:00 you can see that corner in my video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIhMcw8NS08

[Mirek]

Maurin was testing Fabia S2000 from Aimont Racing: http://www.testrally.com/galleria.asp?tipo=Test&id=225&anno=2009

[Madeira]

]Maurin was testing Fabia S2000 from Aimont Racing: http://www.testrally.com/galleria.asp?tipo=Test&id=225&anno=2009

Thank You Mirek!
Great, nice surprise!! is this the Skoda that Longhi uses in Italy?

[Mirek]

Yes, it is.

[RS]

Anyone know if Maurin is any good on dry asphalt? He was not too impressive on Monte or Azores.

[Luis Pacheco]

I heard it from Buysmans last year that @ the end of Santana there are some amazing corners...
We went also to Santana. On 1:00 you can see that corner in my video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIhMcw8NS08

The last corners just before the finish line are made with much heart!
I don´t know if there is images from the place but I will check.

[Madeira]

Strange Vitor Sà chose a 206 S1600 :confused:

He never sold this car...

[alleskids]

If Julien Maurin will be on Madeira with a Skoda Fabia S2000, it will be with a new team called Skoda Rally Team Italia. On a Frech forum it stats that Mauro Fornaris is the teammanager and have many mecanics from Misubishi Rally Art and is formed to support Piero Longhi. Julien signed for 6 rallies including Le Mont Blanc and Antibes and an option for the RAC. He has doen a test near Sanremo
http://www.forum-auto.com/sport-auto/theme38/sujet378750-140.htm

[Mirek]

Skora Rally Team Italia with Fornaris and Longhi already started in two rallys in Italy (San Marino and San Crispino). It's been existing for few months and is not that new ;)

[garden56]

Appears to be that on the entries Vitor Sá will be present with a Mitsubishi EVO IX, so Sá won´t run with with group A (S1600). You can change the car only with a car in the same Group ( in this case group N).

Cheers

[Mirek]

You can change class if FIA allowes that, I think.

[Wim_Impreza]

]You can change class if FIA allowes that, I think.

That did Daniel Carlsson once in Uddeholm Swedish Rally 2006. He was entered in entry list with S1600 car, but he drove the rally with Mitsubishi Lancer WRC.

[karlzoro]

The last corners just before the finish line are made with much heart!
I don´t know if there is images from the place but I will check.

they are not easy to reach if I remember well...
So we took the last place what was good to reach @ Santana then :p

[Luis Pacheco]

they are not easy to reach if I remember well...
So we took the last place what was good to reach @ Santana then :p

From minute 11:00 and 11:20 you can see from onboard the last corners from Santana Stages.
http://www.ralismadeira.com/Videosoutros/ralismadeira-superespecialralidomaritimo.wmv

Don´t ask me how to reach the place. I was with some friends from Madeira and I just remember that was near a strawberries plantation. :D

[J4MIE]

Don´t ask me how to reach the place. I was with some friends from Madeira and I just remember that was near a strawberries plantation. :D

This should be made to be featured at every good rally corner :D

[Raven]

]Wait few days, Pluto is in Bulgaria :D

I can't, my holidays/honeymoon starts on tuesday morning ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Appears to be that on the entries Vitor Sá will be present with a Mitsubishi EVO IX, so Sá won´t run with with group A (S1600).
...
Cheers



Ralismadeira seems to write the opposite :confused:
http://www.ralismadeira.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1092&Itemid=53

[garden56]

The RVM official site says the opposite !!!


http://www.ralivm.com/news/newsDetails.cfm?NID=583

....
Madeirenses:
Alexandre Camacho/Pedro Calado (Peugeot 207 S2000)
Bernardo Sousa/Jorge Carvalho (Fiat Grand Punto S2000)
Miguel Nunes/Vítor Calado (Peugeot 207 S2000)
Vítor Sá/José Camacho (Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX)
Filipe Freitas/Daniel Figueiroa (Renault Clio S1600)
...

Let's wait....

[Tom206wrc]

Presentation of the rally + official entrylist tomorrow evening ???? :confused: :confused:

http://www.ralismadeira.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1099&Itemid=45

[Alexg84]

Here's some photos of the tests before Rally Madeira...They was all in Italy, near Sanremo....

TestRally.com - Test Loix (http://www.testrally.com/galleria.asp?tipo=Test&id=226&anno=2009)

TestRally.com - Test Maurin Skoda (http://www.testrally.com/galleria.asp?tipo=Test&id=225&anno=2009)

TestRally.com - Test Meeke (http://www.testrally.com/galleria.asp?tipo=Test&id=221&anno=2009)

Alex

[Tom206wrc]

Garden56, in pics, the evidence Vitor Sà will use the 206 and not the Mitsu !!! :p :
http://www.ralismadeira.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1101&Itemid=41

[GTA]

I think with Patrick Snijers in Barum, am I right? :)

We will see....

[[Madeira-Rally]]

In Madeira, some people are talking about a possibility of absence of Luca Betti due to budget problems..

anyone know something more about this?

[Mirek]

I think that it's possible. He was talking about possible ending of season already in Ypres. He said that if he looses contact with top crews in overal ERC standings, he may retire. As You know he retired in Bulgaria and took zero points...

[[Madeira-Rally]]

]I think that it's possible. He was talking about possible ending of season already in Ypres. He said that if he looses contact with top crews in overal ERC standings, he may retire. As You know he retired in Bulgaria and took zero points...
Yes.. but 2 weeks ago he was in San Crispino with an EVO... so.. where is the budget problems :s mokin:

[Luis Pacheco]

Entry list:

http://www.ralivm.com/news/newsDetails.cfm?NID=589

Luca Betti is out.

[Tom206wrc]

Still great entry can't wait for next week :) :)

[GTA]

Still great entry can't wait for next week :) :)

i find it a bit dissapointing, is normal IRC / ERC entry with no ex WRC or Veteran drivers.!..i thought that was the idea this year..( Snijers, Tabaton, Aghini, etc )..

But am stil going to enjoy it.. :) ... Lucky number 5...

[Madeira]

i find it a bit dissapointing, is normal IRC / ERC entry with no ex WRC or Veteran drivers.!..i thought that was the idea this year..( Snijers, Tabaton, Aghini, etc )..

But am stil going to enjoy it.. :) ... Lucky number 5...

Yes, but you must know which was the problem....

[Mirek]

Lucky number 5...

I miss the point probably... do You mean Madeira national team for Camacho?

[principe IRC]

¿What happened to M.Bernardelli?

[PLuto]

Codriver is ill

[Wim_Impreza]

As each year, the organisers said that there will be some big WRC names from the past. It is the 50. edition of this rally, the entry list is disappointing. Half of the S2000 cars are driven by gentlemen-drivers.

[N.O.T]

its a nice change to see that this year the organisers didn;t announce a bunch of fake names as they used tto the years before.....

[sal]

Plenty of WRC events would be glad of an entry of that quantity/quality this year...Ok so Skoda arnt there but can understand why they will be wanting to throw everything at the Barum. Still there will be a good fight between the Peugeots!

[Tom206wrc]

As each year, the organisers said that there will be some big WRC names from the past. It is the 50. edition of this rally, the entry list is disappointing. Half of the S2000 cars are driven by gentlemen-drivers.



There are still many names for win/podium ;)

Basso, Rossetti, Vouilloz, Camacho, Loix, Meeke, Magalhaes especially(what about Nunes and Sousa though???)

[Ucci]

As each year, the organisers said that there will be some big WRC names from the past. It is the 50. edition of this rally, the entry list is disappointing. Half of the S2000 cars are driven by gentlemen-drivers.

I can not agree with the mind that half of S2000 drivers are gentelman drivers-I see three, four, others however are serious rally drivers but everyone just can not be so quick as Voullioz, Rossetti, Basso, Meeke and other factory drivers...
My opinion-we have solide band of drivers, I am looking forward to the beginning....

[karlzoro]

There are still many names for win/podium ;)

Basso, Rossetti, Vouilloz, Camacho, Loix, Meeke, Magalhaes especially(what about Nunes and Sousa though???)

I think that Nunes could be the surprise this year, like Camacho last year...
I don't know about Sousa...I wasn't very impressed of his speed in Açores...I think he had more fun last year in his Lancer???

[Madeira]

As each year, the organisers said that there will be some big WRC names from the past. It is the 50. edition of this rally, the entry list is disappointing. Half of the S2000 cars are driven by gentlemen-drivers.

No this year wasn´t like previous years. They said, that they would try to bring some of the past winners of rally, but they did not announced any name at any time. It was was an intention and I can confirm they made several contacts with them but in the end no enough budget....pity!

[GTA]

]I miss the point probably... do You mean Madeira national team for Camacho?

Yes..correct.. :) .. if you can not beat them then join them.!.. Right.?.. :) .

[GTA]

No this year wasn´t like previous years. They said, that they would try to bring some of the past winners of rally, but they did not announced any name at any time. It was was an intention and I can confirm they made several contacts with them but in the end no enough budget....pity!

i Agree, its not easy to find budgets for high level drivers that only want to come and drive and have no budget themself...

The Organisation did its best to contact many people, but in the end its all about completing the Budgets..

[wwbroe]

What about pickems for this rally? Only one week to go. :D

[racing_piet]

We want to go to the shakedown of the Madeira Rally. I heard that the last U-corner is the most spectacular one. But I don't know where this corner is. I know it is not far from Campo do Golf.
Does anyone has a map of the shakedown please?
Will we have to walk far to reach this famous U-turn?

[[Madeira-Rally]]

We want to go to the shakedown of the Madeira Rally. I heard that the last U-corner is the most spectacular one. But I don't know where this corner is. I know it is not far from Campo do Golf.
Does anyone has a map of the shakedown please?
Will we have to walk far to reach this famous U-turn?

From campo the Campo de Golf to the specific U-turn, you have to walk about 20min.

[PuddleJumper]

What about pickems for this rally? Only one week to go. :D
As you know, I'm having difficulty with the entry list. The official site has it in a flash format which I can't copy and paste and the IRC is an image within a PDF. If someone can point me to a text version I can use, I'll get the pickems up straight away.

[pucky54]

http://www.ralivm.com/depot/newsPressFiles/2456-2009-News_589.pdf

[PuddleJumper]

Thanks pucky54, but that's the same file that's on the IRC website with an image embedded in a PDF. No worries though, I've manually typed out the entry list and the pickems are now open for entries.

[Madeira]

First pics from service trucks and cars, ready to make the trip for Madeira island

http://www.ralismadeira.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1122&Itemid=41

[Barreis]

Nice photos..

[Madeira]

Rally Vinho Madeira live on twitter:
http://twitter.com/RallyVM

[Barreis]

Any new photos?

[Madeira]

Any new photos?

For the moment no, Tomorow I'm sure!

[Barreis]

Thanx! :)

[RS]

We are back to daily reviews for Madeira after having just highlights from Russia:

http://www.ircseries.com/html/uploadedFiles/documents/tv.times.pdf

[Madeira]

The cars arrived!
http://www.ralismadeira.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1133&Itemid=41

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Davide di Benedetto won't be on the rally...

[fastboy]

I think if Meeke can have a trouble free rally he will win by about a minute.

[[Madeira-Rally]]

About a minute in Madeira in normal condition it won't be easy for anyone.

If the drivers don't have mechanical problems, it will be a hard fight for the victory for sue.

Today I was on a test of Abarth, and... I think they will be in a good level.

[karlzoro]

]About a minute in Madeira in normal condition it won't be easy for anyone.

If the drivers don't have mechanical problems, it will be a hard fight for the victory for sue.

Today I was on a test of Abarth, and... I think they will be in a good level.

Abarth is always on a good level @ Madeira...
I'm looking forward to the performance of Nunes and Camacho (again) this year..and if Magalhaes will have bad luck again?? I hope not

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Abarth is always on a good level @ Madeira...
I'm looking forward to the performance of Nunes and Camacho (again) this year..and if Magalhaes will have bad luck again?? I hope not

I think Nunes won't have any chance to compete with high level drivers...

He isn't so talented as Camacho or Magalhães...

[karlzoro]

]I think Nunes won't have any chance to compete with high level drivers...

He isn't so talented as Camacho or Magalhães...

but then I'm wondered if Camacho would be so talented when he would drive on the continent...?? I know that he drove some rallies in Portugal (last year) but I don't know his results...It's just something that's keep me busy, but I don't wanne say that I think that he isn't a gooed driver

[Madeira]

Lot of teams were testing today, here is some pics:

Bernardo Sousa and Rui Madeira were testing in Porto Santo the other island very close to Madeira

http://www.ralismadeira.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1157&Itemid=41

Vitor Sá
http://www.ralismadeira.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1155&Itemid=41

[Madeira]

More Pics:
Proton
http://www.ralismadeira.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1156&Itemid=51

Alexandre Camacho, Vitor Pascoal e Bruno Magalhães

http://www.ralismadeira.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1159&Itemid=51

Abarth
http://www.ralismadeira.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1154&Itemid=51

[Tom206wrc]

Can't wait for this thursday evening with the SSS :)

[Tom206wrc]

Looks like on the official website of the rally we can have live results from shakedown(held today from 10.00am to 2.00pm GMT+1) :confused:

[Madeira]

Looks like on the official website of the rally we can have live results from shakedown(held today from 10.00am to 2.00pm GMT+1) :confused:

The shakedown will start 10.30am local hour=11:30am continental hour!!
I'm Ready to go!!

[Tom206wrc]

No shakedown results yet(after 1 hour start)... :mark:

[wwbroe]

No shakedown results yet(after 1 hour start)... :mark:

Yes, i am waiting patiently also, but nothing appearing on the screen. :(

[Mirek]

There are times now ;)

[wwbroe]

]There are times now ;)

Wowh, Pascoal fastest untill now, that is a little surprise to me. :)

[Luis Pacheco]

http://www.ralivm.com/onlineResults/shakedown.cfm?displayYear=2009

[wwbroe]

Pascoal still fastest, but three drivers at half a second, namely Basso, Magalhaes and Meeke. ;)

[wwbroe]

Now Meeke is the fastest man around, with 0;1" in front of Pascoal. :D

[Tom206wrc]

Pascoal has to defend his first position in portuguese championship ahead of Magalhaes :p :

[Tom206wrc]

Wilks for now best of non-Peugeot and non-Abarth ;)

[wwbroe]

There are no less then 8 Pugs in top 9, only Basso is between them. Disappointing times for Rosetti and Maurin sofar. :(

[wwbroe]

Magalhaes fastest now, half a second faster then Meeke, no changes for the rest of the drivers. ;)

[Tom206wrc]

There are no less then 8 Pugs in top 9, only Basso is between them. Disappointing times for Rosetti and Maurin sofar. :(



If "Rox" disappoints only at shakedown, that's nothing bad :D

[wwbroe]

If "Rox" disappoints only at shakedown, that's nothing bad :D

He set decent time now, only 0,5 sec behind teammate Basso and sixt overall. :)

[Tom206wrc]

Vouilloz 3rd fastest time :bounce:




Sorry...I forgot it was only SD :p :

[Tom206wrc]

Basso finally 3rd fastest of the shake' :)

[Madeira]

The weather are very,very hot. Won't be easy for nobody and for mechanical!!
Basso seems good..., Kris Meeke very clean runs, Wilks nothing special to comment. Solowow was great!

[karlzoro]

The weather are very,very hot. Won't be easy for nobody and for mechanical!!
Basso seems good..., Kris Meeke very clean runs, Wilks nothing special to comment. Solowow was great!

I hope for everyone @ the island that it stays like that :s mokin:
I've been ther 2 times already and I know that the wheater can be different on the other side of the island...

[Madeira]

I hope for everyone @ the island that it stays like that :s mokin:
I've been ther 2 times already and I know that the wheater can be different on the other side of the island...
Yes, I know, but this year and for now it's very hot at any place. The sakedown results were worst than last edition!

[HaCo]

Again this proves Meeke is an allround and super talent. Why did he never get a decent WRC drive? What a shame, but happy to see him in IRC!

[Tom206wrc]

... The sakedown results were worst than last edition!



What do you mean ??? :confused:

[noel157]

What do you mean ??? :confused:

Hotter than last year?

Magalhaes 0.2 secs quicker than Meeke with Basso, Voullioz, Pascoal, Rosetti, Loix and Fontana et al in the next 6 places.

[Mirek]

Yes, probably. The colder and the more humid the air is, the better for engines.

[noel157]

Looks a nice evening in Funchal. Plenty of bollards. Presume that is part of the stage tonight?

http://www.madeira-web.com/camera/cam-05.html

[Mirek]

Live results will be also here (like from every ERC round): http://mmcr.vysledky-rally.cz/rallysport/2009/erc/madeira/1all.php

[Tom206wrc]

Pics and video from shake on http://www.ralismadeira.com :)

[noel157]

Starting in reverse order I presume?

Stages similar to T de C?

[karlzoro]

Starting in reverse order I presume?

yes Noel

And for who's interested: Live stream of the Super Special??? (if my Portugese is ok :confused: )

http://www.ralismadeira.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1162&Itemid=41

[noel157]

yes Noel

And for who's interested: Live stream of the Super Special??? (if my Portugese is ok :confused: )

http://www.ralismadeira.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1162&Itemid=41

Thanks Kevin but I think it may just be a preview of the SSS? Maybe I'm wrong.

[pucky54]

someone got a live-stream?

[Luis Pacheco]

Live stream from the SS:

http://www.tvtuga.com/content/view/1108/839/

[pucky54]

wrong channel

[Abarth]

I do not get any rally on that stream, but normal tv, am I doing something wrong ?

[noel157]

Dancing and then something about hospitals? No cars....

[Luis Pacheco]

I forgot that they no longer transmit live this channel. Sorry.

At the moment I am seeing the SS live on my TV.

[noel157]

I forgot that they no longer transmit live this channel. Sorry.

At the moment I am seeing the SS live on my TV.

Thanks anyway Luis, enjoy the TV broadcast.....

[noel157]

Meeke fastest from Magalhăes and Fontana. Long way to go but it's going to be interesting tomorrow.

[Tom206wrc]

;)

[Luis Pacheco]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2AQDy2CkGw

[Tom206wrc]

Bring on tomorrow now :bounce:

[wwbroe]

Anybody else awake and ready to follow today's action in Madeira? ;)

[Rally Hokkaido]

Good afternoon, wwbroe!
It's almost 5pm, here.

[wwbroe]

Good afternoon, wwbroe!
It's almost 5pm, here.

Well, here it is 10 o'clock in the morning, but we are here for same purpose. First stage of the day should be live now. :)

[Luis Pacheco]

http://195.245.168.21/ant3mad

Oficial radio

[Luis Pacheco]

Camacho the fastest at the middle of the first stage of the day.

[Mirek]

Vitor Sá retired before SS2 (differential) :(

[wwbroe]

]Vitor Sá retired before SS2 (differential) :(

That is way too soon. :(

[Luis Pacheco]

Basso win the stage

+2,5 Magalhães
+2,3 Camacho
+7,8 Meeke

[wwbroe]

Basso win the stage

+0,6 Magalhães
+1,7 Camacho
+2,7 Meeke

Where do you see the stage times Luis, because i don't see any results on my screen. :( :confused:

[Mirek]

I think it's from the radio, isn't it?

[Tom206wrc]

Problems with results ???? :confused:


Edit: no time for Loix since quite long time :mark:

[Luis Pacheco]

The times were slow but they are already on

http://rvm.amaweb.pt/

[wwbroe]

Now results are there on all sites ;)

[Luis Pacheco]

Loix with the six time so far.

[noel157]

Meeke slow, problem? Lost 8 secs to Basso, now in 5th place.

[Mirek]

Loix faster than I expected because he realy doesn't like this type of roads...

[wwbroe]

]Loix faster than I expected because he realy doesn't like this type of roads...

You are right Mirek, he doesn't like this rally so much, and he wasn't pleased with setup of the car neither. ;)

[wwbroe]

Quite disappointing time by Wilks, i guess on asfalt the Proton is not yet what it should be. :(

[Luis Pacheco]

The Proton was losing oil at the end of the stage.

[wwbroe]

The Proton was losing oil at the end of the stage.

Ok, i see, thanks Luis for the info.

[noel157]

Luis, any interesting comments from the drivers at the end of the stage?

[Luis Pacheco]

Not really. Some of the drivers complain about the extreme heat of the tarmac.

[Tom206wrc]

SS3 is running I guess ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Rossetti finished SS3 :)

[Tom206wrc]

Basso was 13s faster ;)

[wwbroe]

Basso was 13s faster ;)

Where do you see this Tom? :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

Again, Magalhaes slower than Basso(+3.5s) :mark:

[Tom206wrc]

Where do you see this Tom? :confused:


http://rvm.amaweb.pt/ ;)

[Mirek]

Walter, look here. It's website Luis posted before: http://rvm.amaweb.pt/index.php?prova=&t=0&p=3&e=0&mode=0&view=0&l=PT

[Tom206wrc]

Meeke +21s :s
I guess it's his lack of experience on this rally :rolleyes:

[wwbroe]

]Walter, look here. It's website Luis posted before: http://rvm.amaweb.pt/index.php?prova=&t=0&p=3&e=0&mode=0&view=0&l=PT

Thanks Mirek, i didn't have that one opened. :D