Revised Ferrari makes Vairano debut... [Archive]

goodf1fun

2nd May 2009, 07:56

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/090501174433.shtml

Ferrari's heavily revised F60 made its track debut on Friday.

The new package, up to 15 kilograms lighter than the original 2009 version according to Italian reports, is undergoing straight line testing with Marc Gene behind the wheel.

The saved weight, in all areas including the material used for the seat belts, will benefit Ferrari's use of KERS, culminating in what they hope is a lap-time gain of several tenths.

Why are the only team to test? Test is ban nowdays! i am totally confused!
are they doing this legal???????????????????????

Ranger

2nd May 2009, 07:57

Straight line testing isn't illegal.

goodf1fun

2nd May 2009, 08:00

what is the straight line testing?
whats the difference to a normal testing? why others do not test???!!!

2nd May 2009, 08:12

what is the straight line testing?
whats the difference to a normal testing? why others do not test???!!!

The others can do straightline tests.

If you don't know the difference between driving in a straightline and driving round a corner, then you need more driving lessons.

Seriously, straightline tests are basically a shakedown test of a chassis, to check that everything is working ok. That's about it really. You can learn a bit about aero revisions, but not much.

DexDexter

2nd May 2009, 08:52

what is the straight line testing?
whats the difference to a normal testing? why others do not test???!!!

The difference is they don't turn into corners :) :) .

ozrevhead

2nd May 2009, 09:19

so what do they do when they get to the end of the straight - turn around and go back :p

ozrevhead

2nd May 2009, 09:19

so when they get to the end of the straight do they turn around and go back again :p ::p ::p

Sonic

2nd May 2009, 09:27

Yup. No turning allowed. When they get to the end of the straight they destroy the chassis and then build a new one. So much for max's cost cutting measures!! :p

UltimateDanGTR

2nd May 2009, 10:51

Yup. No turning allowed. When they get to the end of the straight they destroy the chassis and then build a new one. So much for max's cost cutting measures!! :p

DONT BE RIDICULOUS!!

you know perfect;y well that at the end of the striaght there is an aeroplane waiting to take it back to the start via heathrow! :p :

Sonic

2nd May 2009, 12:30

ROFL :p

ozrevhead

2nd May 2009, 12:49

DONT BE RIDICULOUS!!

you know perfect;y well that at the end of the striaght there is an aeroplane waiting to take it back to the start via heathrow! :p : :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

veeten

2nd May 2009, 13:56

well, if they're are looking for some comparitive data on straightline performance, how about some runs against... these.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm5RkeuKC1Q ;) :p :

Valve Bounce

2nd May 2009, 14:03

so what do they do when they get to the end of the straight - turn around and go back :p

They use Hamilton's crane to lift them, then swing the car around, lower the car, then drive back. :p :

tintop

2nd May 2009, 15:01

Hamilton's crane

:)

aryan

2nd May 2009, 15:54

Straightline testing is a form of shakedown, and it is allowed. You can't do much testing with it, other than to make sure that the car runs.

goodf1fun

2nd May 2009, 19:36

straight line testing is with the FIA boys around to check what are they doing?
Can they test in close doors lets say ferrari in fiorano doing like testing other cars with different drivers(lets say they paint the car black) ...! who can check this?

DexDexter

2nd May 2009, 19:44

so what do they do when they get to the end of the straight - turn around and go back :p

No, they put it on reverse... :)

Wasted Talent

2nd May 2009, 22:23

No, they put it on reverse... :)

Well it is Italian............

WT

BeansBeansBeans

2nd May 2009, 22:39

goodf1fun

3rd May 2009, 10:13

Checks are not required, for the Scuderia would never cheat.

mclaren cheated so many times so they should watch them...

jens

3rd May 2009, 14:41

But is zigzagging on the 'straight' allowed? :p : Or put some cones on the straight and try to emulate corners? :p :

DexDexter

4th May 2009, 11:30

But is zigzagging on the 'straight' allowed? :p : Or put some cones on the straight and try to emulate corners? :p :

It's probably not in the regulations! So until it's banned, you can do it. :)

veeten

4th May 2009, 14:20

and suddenly, pointing and the loud screams of "Cheating!!!" commences. :p :

DexDexter

5th May 2009, 07:27

and suddenly, pointing and the loud screams of "Cheating!!!" commences. :p :

It's down to the definition of a corner. Maybe it's not a corner if there is a hole in the asphalt :) .

ArrowsFA1

5th May 2009, 07:52

How much of Ferrari's form this year is due to not being able to run unlimited testing at Fiorano?

wmcot

5th May 2009, 08:26

Anyone have photos of the modified F60?

555-04Q2

5th May 2009, 08:32

How much of Ferrari's form this year is due to not being able to run unlimited testing at Fiorano?

I think it has affected them quite a bit. They are used to fixing problems by just running test after test after test and this year they cant. They need to adapt to the new regs, but sometimes changing from your normal routine is difficult.

I also think the fundamental aero package they had for the first few races wasnt perfect either. No excuses, they just arent fast enough at the moment. Their reliability is also a concern for me.

5th May 2009, 13:56

How much of Ferrari's form this year is due to not being able to run unlimited testing at Fiorano?

A lot.

Ferrari's philosophy has, for a long time, been based around owning a test track. Now they have to adapt to not being able to use the facilities on their doorstep.

All because some poxy teams haven't got their own bit of tarmac! Shocking, it is, how much of their competitive advantage Ferrari have had to give away over the last few years. But not one cry of victimisation....well, except from me, now, obviously.

If it had been Mclaren losing the use of their test track, the outcry would have been never-ending.

schmenke

5th May 2009, 14:31

...If it had been Mclaren losing the use of their test track, the outcry would have been never-ending.

McLaren have their own test track?

veeten

5th May 2009, 15:30

McLaren have their own test track?

No, they don't. Unlike many other teams, such as McLaren, having to use tracks like Silverstone, Catalunya, or Hockenheim to do testing, Ferrari have both local circuits and their own test track, Fiorano.

As tamburello said, it comes down to the new rules and the limits on actual test runs on track. There's only so much that one can glean from using computers to test and evaluate new components. Actual physical use can be more telling, as it can come close to 'real world' situations.

Viridian Black

5th May 2009, 16:02

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