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Sonic
22nd April 2009, 17:09
Autosport report that RBR are well into negotiations for a merc engine deal. Mac, Brawn, Force india and now RBR???? That's nearly half the grid. Should there be a limit on the number of teams a supplier can provide engines to?

christophulus
22nd April 2009, 17:20
The FIA would say no, they're all for a standard engine after all!

I don't see what benefit they'd get seems how all the engines have been standardised anyway. And Merc have ruled out more than three teams, so the team that would make way for Red Bull would surely be Brawn GP, the others have long contracts

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/74701

UltimateDanGTR
22nd April 2009, 17:21
from 1989 to about the mid nineties, about half the teams if not more used cosworth engines.

so 4 teams of merc wouldnt make much difference to how it used to be. however, one engine supplier supplying alot of teams does get a bit boring.

and anyway, RBR should stick with their renaults.

gloomyDAY
22nd April 2009, 17:22
from 1989 to about the mid nineties, about half the teams if not more used cosworth engines.

so 4 teams of merc wouldnt make much difference to how it used to be. however, one engine supplier supplying alot of teams does get a bit boring.

and anyway, RBR should stick with their renaults.No RBR shouldn't, not if Mercedes offers a better powerplant.
There's nothing wrong with shopping around for the right deal.

Donney
22nd April 2009, 17:57
I don't see anything wrong with it, as said before there were times when most of the cars had Cosworth engines.

Sonic
22nd April 2009, 17:59
from 1989 to about the mid nineties, about half the teams if not more used cosworth engines.

so 4 teams of merc wouldnt make much difference to how it used to be. however, one engine supplier supplying alot of teams does get a bit boring

Yeah but back then we had 28 or more cars so having 8-10 cars with similar engines still left plenty of variety.

My personal preference would be to see if not a cap on the max number of teams an engine builder could supply, but perhaps a rule that made every manufacture provide (or at least have the ability to supply) at least one team other than the factory. Yes BMW iLm looking at you.

F1boat
22nd April 2009, 19:27
Mercedes-Benz will support no more than three teams, so after Force India commitment Brawn GP might be replaced. Than Ross might return to Ferrari engines, who knows? Or maybe if McLaren are destroyed by FIA, Mercedes-Benz will leave them. We have to wait and see...

Dr. Krogshöj
22nd April 2009, 19:41
Vijay Mallya said that no more than two teams can use the same engines so he had to give permission to Brawn to use Mercedes engines.

F1boat
22nd April 2009, 19:59
This may change for next year, I dunno... with three new teams expected.

veeten
22nd April 2009, 23:57
... and anyway, RBR should stick with their renaults.

The question is, "will Renault even choose to stay in F1 at all?"

With ING leaving, and the team not doing too good as it is right now, Goshn might decide to pack it in and 'do a Honda' at the end of the season. He did put all on notice back at the offseason that if they didn't produce he would 'pull the plug'.

That's why Horner is making a deal with Haug; better engine, less worry.

V12
23rd April 2009, 01:25
The question is, "will Renault even choose to stay in F1 at all?"

With ING leaving, and the team not doing too good as it is right now, Goshn might decide to pack it in and 'do a Honda' at the end of the season. He did put all on notice back at the offseason that if they didn't produce he would 'pull the plug'.

That's why Horner is making a deal with Haug; better engine, less worry.


The last time the Renault factory quit, in 1985, they stayed as an engine supplier.

OK, only for one year, but were only out for a further two before rejoining with Williams in '89.

nigelred5
23rd April 2009, 01:43
Supplying contract engines they twould be paid for and essentially footing the bill for and entire race team are entirely different levels of expenditure and involvement. Especially with a fixed engine rule that severely limits ongoing development costs.