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J4MIE

12th April 2009, 23:58

Scotland will stage the final round of the prestigious Intercontinental Rally Challenge (IRC) in 2009 over the weekend of Friday 20th and Saturday 21st November.

This thread is for all the information about it to try and help you guys who are planning to come to the event, it does seem like there are a lot of you :)

The rally will be based between Stirling (about 35 miles / 40 minutes West of Edinburgh) and Perth (30 miles / 35 minutes North-East of Stirling).

According to HaCo the route details will be announced at the end of April. I don't know what stages will be being used but none of the ones around Stirling have been used for many years. I think the ones around Perth are likely to be similar to those used on the Colin McRae Forest Stages but that is only six weeks before so not sure they will have enough time to repair the roads etc so don't know if they will be using any different ones.

But I just also wanted to mention that when you are making plans, you may even consider coming over a week early to watch at the Roger Albert Clark Rally, 13-16 November. For me it's the best UK rally of the year, 3 long days of following historic cars around the country, using some of the best stages and it's just completely awesome, I can't describe how much I enjoy it. Last year Malcolm Wilson won it in a MkII Escort. What a week this is going to be!! :bounce: http://www.rogeralbertclarkrally.org

You can choose between flying in to Glasgow or Edinburgh airport as both are roughly the same distance from Rally HQ but from Perth it's quicker/easier to reach Edinburgh.

Plenty of accommodation nearby too, where you stay depends on how far you want to drive each day. I'd recommend travelodge in quite a few places nearby, Stirling, Falkirk, Perth, Dunfermline, Kinross, and at a push Glenrothes or Dundee. Visit http://www.visitscotland.com for info on accomodation etc.

If anyone knows who is likely to be entering the event or coming to watch that would be interesting too ;) I will put all the info I hear about the event in here.

AndyRAC

13th April 2009, 00:08

Really looking forward to November - should be some fantastic Rallying action. Agree about the RAC which is the week before, always a fantastic event - the only 'bad' thing is it doesn't last long enough, I always feel it needs another day.
As for the IRC Scottish - I'm intrigued as to what the route might be - is 6 weeks enough to get the stages used on the McRae Stages back in some sort of shape? Just wish it was another day instead of the 2 days. And hope that all the top boys turn up, plus a few wild cards & the BF Goodrich drive should go to a young Scottish/British driver.
Finally, I hope the prices and spectator areas aren't like on RallyGB......

J4MIE

13th April 2009, 03:27

Not too sure I agree about the RAC being too short, I really noticed on the Monday last year that most of them were really trying to get to the finish more than anything else. I don't blame them at all, it's a lot they've got through up to then and of course they don't want to throw it off with the finish in their sights! Also another day would mean another area of the country and would add a significant cost to doing the event.

There will probably be a shakedown stage on the Thursday and I'm led to believe there may be a test day organised in the run up to the event too. IRC events are tending to be two day events as well which will cut costs no doubt, but still providing good competition and entertainment :)

sal

23rd April 2009, 14:19

See my post re the RAC inthe British section however the event will be on and looks like being better than ever!

J4MIE

23rd April 2009, 23:46

Route and spectator information will be announced on their website tomorrow, not sure when but I'll try to keep an eye on it and post a link :)

Donney

24th April 2009, 09:12

I would love to go, if I have the chance (read that money available) I'm definitely going.

J4MIE

24th April 2009, 11:56

Spectators ticket details announced, will go on sale at midday today.

http://www.rallyscotland.tv/news_story.asp?ID=14

Full details of the route will be announced on Wednesday May 13th.

J4MIE

24th April 2009, 11:58

I would love to go, if I have the chance (read that money available) I'm definitely going.

Would be good to see you over here Donney. I believe that Travelodge have a sale on at the moment with some £9 rooms available, have a search on their website, might save you a bit of cash.

Easyjet also have direct flights to Edinburgh from various places in Spain.

sal

24th April 2009, 18:13

Is £50 the highest rally pass charge in the IRC? Britain has a reputation to keep up!

AndyRAC

24th April 2009, 19:06

Is £50 the highest rally pass charge in the IRC? Britain has a reputation to keep up!

Must admit, I baulked when I saw that price. Wasn't totally surprised however, IMS are the organisers - their raison d'etre is high ticket prices. I'd be willing to bet that £50 is the most expensive in the IRC, and it's not really on. I'll probably still end up going.........

J4MIE

24th April 2009, 19:15

Come on guys, child tickets start at £5 to see all the action from the service area, how can you complain? ;)

Allyc85

24th April 2009, 20:03

Would be great for rallys to be still be free, but £50 for 3 days entertainment dosnt seem to bad to me. Especially when it costs me £46 to watch rasenal for 90 minutes!

Donney

27th April 2009, 09:43

Would be good to see you over here Donney. I believe that Travelodge have a sale on at the moment with some £9 rooms available, have a search on their website, might save you a bit of cash.

Easyjet also have direct flights to Edinburgh from various places in Spain.

Thanks for the hint I'll check that.

wwbroe

2nd May 2009, 17:22

J4MIE

2nd May 2009, 20:49

Is there any more information where the rally HQ will be based, will it be in Perth or in Stirling. I see on the website that they want to use both, but does anybody know where service will be located? No news of possible stages that will be used. I want to plan my trip but i prefer to wait untill we have some more decent information. ;)

You could book your flights now (to Edinburgh I'd say) and then you can arrange accommodation etc after the route is announced (May 13th). I have seen a couple of proposed stage locations but no idea of the route in full yet.

wwbroe

2nd May 2009, 20:52

You could book your flights now (to Edinburgh I'd say) and then you can arrange accommodation etc after the route is announced (May 13th). I have seen a couple of proposed stage locations but no idea of the route in full yet.

Ok, J4MIE, thank you for the info. Keep us imformed, will you? I can't book the flights yet, because they aren't online yet. :D

J4MIE

2nd May 2009, 21:03

Amzing what you can find on google. http://www.visitaberfoyle.com/whatson.html Scroll down to near the end of the page.

The 12th and final round of the prestigious Intercontinental Rally Challenge (IRC) will take place in Scotland coming to The Trossachs on Saturday 21st November.
Provisional routes are:
Sections 7 & 10 (Achray), starting at Forest Drive (exit) and coming
right through to Stonefield.
Sections 8 & 11, (Fairy Knowe), Kirkton to Cobbleland.
Sections 9 & 12 (Loch Ard),entry above Loch Chon exit North Drymen.

wwbroe

2nd May 2009, 21:12

Amzing what you can find on google. http://www.visitaberfoyle.com/whatson.html Scroll down to near the end of the page.

I guess the Trossachs are a specific area in Scotland? ;)

J4MIE

2nd May 2009, 21:44

I guess the Trossachs are a specific area in Scotland? ;)

Yes it's a national park, West of Stirling.

http://www.lochlomond-trossachs.org/images/stories/learning/images/LLTNP_BASE_MAP_web.jpg

J4MIE

2nd May 2009, 21:46

I think that the start will be in Perth, so going by the other link would say three stages repeated in Perth (will probably use Craigvinean as it has quite a lot of milage), then second day in the Trossachs with the finish in front of Stirling Castle on the Saturday.

All this is just guesses though of course ;)

J4MIE

13th May 2009, 13:44

Event is being officially announced today so we should get full route details, nothing yet though :)

13th May 2009, 14:44

A leak in Motorsport News today says there will be night stages :)

J4MIE

13th May 2009, 15:00

There is some info on the ticket pages, not sure if it has been updated today but no announcement of news of the website.

Ceremonial start and two superspecial stages at Scone Palace
SS3&7 Craigvinean
SS4 Blackcraig (non-spectator)
SS9&12 Fairy Knowe
SS10&13 Loch Ard

Two service areas, Blair Castle (Blair Atholl) and Stirling Castle.

HaCo

13th May 2009, 17:30

I tried to interpret this article:
http://www.rallybuzz.com/rally-scotland-route/

Resulting in this:

SS1 Scone Palace 1 mile 1,61 km
SS2 Scone Palace 1 mile 1,61 km
Night Perth Tay Street
08:00:00 Start
SS3 Craigvinean 13,3 mile 21,4 km
SS4 Blackcraig 8,5 mile 13,68 km
Service Blair Castle
SS5 Errochty 14 mile 22,53 km
SS6 Drummond Hill's 11,7 mile 18,83 km
Service Blair Castle
SS7 Craigvinean 13,3 mile 21,4 km
Night Stirling Castle
06:10:00 Start Stirling Castle
SS8 Achray 11,5 mile 18,5 km
SS9 Fairy Knowe 5,2 mile 8,37 km
SS10 Loch Ard 21,7 mile 34,92 km
Service Stirling Castle
SS11 Achray 11,5 mile 18,5 km
SS12 Fairy Knowe 5,2 mile 8,37 km
SS13 Loch Ard 21,7 mile 34,92 km
Podium Stirling Castle
Total 139,6 mile 224,62 km

J4MIE

14th May 2009, 11:24

AndyRAC

14th May 2009, 11:39

Event is being officially announced today so we should get full route details, nothing yet though :)

So. was it launched yesterday?

Looks a fairly good route, looking forward to it - but not looking forward to paying the £50 for a pass. Still think that is misguided - compare to last year's McRae Stages and the freedom to choose were to watch.

J4MIE

14th May 2009, 14:21

So. was it launched yesterday?

Looks a fairly good route, looking forward to it - but not looking forward to paying the £50 for a pass. Still think that is misguided - compare to last year's McRae Stages and the freedom to choose were to watch.

Ahh but you can go to the cerimonial finish on the esplanade at Stirling Castle for free!!

http://www.rallyscotland.tv/news_story.asp?ID=16

AndyRAC

14th May 2009, 14:45

Ahh but you can go to the cerimonial finish on the esplanade at Stirling Castle for free!!

http://www.rallyscotland.tv/news_story.asp?ID=16

They're far too generous - that makes it okay then.... ;)

HaCo

14th May 2009, 17:12

What do you mean by freedom to see where to watch?

Mirek

14th May 2009, 17:58

I think that in GB it's common that some areas and even some whole stages are restricted for spectators.

AndyRAC

14th May 2009, 21:48

What do you mean by freedom to see where to watch?

On most Rallies here in the UK, you can choose to watch were you want (as long as it's not dangerous) However, on RallyGB, you can't - there are spectator areas from were to watch. Rally Scotland looks as though it will be the same.

J4MIE

14th May 2009, 21:50

http://www.rallyscotland.tv/downloads/764_Basic_Route_2.2_v2.pdf

wwbroe

17th May 2009, 21:08

So, if i see it correctly, there will only be thirteen stages, of wich two of them are superspecial stages. I find that a little disappointing, with only 224.88 of competitive kms. :(
What about the accesses to the stages, will they be limited or will you be able to use any road you want, i mean those that are not used by the rally? Or will it be like in RAC-rally's of the last ten years where you are only supposed to go to restricted area's? :confused:
Can somebody give me a decent answer to those questions, then maybe i can start planning my trip over there. ;)

karlzoro

18th May 2009, 19:30

On most Rallies here in the UK, you can choose to watch were you want (as long as it's not dangerous) However, on RallyGB, you can't - there are spectator areas from were to watch. Rally Scotland looks as though it will be the same.

I thinks that's a (small answer) to your question Walter... :rolleyes: :(

Whinlatter

19th May 2009, 08:30

AndyRAC

19th May 2009, 09:20

The problem with the stages being used for this rally is that they are mostly in remote, hilly countryside - so there are very few access routes into the stages, which makes it easy for organisers to block 'unofficial' access.

I believe that on some of the stages there will be only one spectator access point. Expect it to be similar to RGB, which means it should be possible to walk deeper into the stage from that point, so long as you are sensible and arrive early (most marshals will not try to stop you walking into the stage if you are 1 hour + before the first car is due).

It was also reported in Mnews last week that you can park your car and actually stay in it to watch a particular stage. Why would you want to do that? There's nothing to compare to the sight, sound and smell of a competition car....
Organisers have obviously not been to many events....... ;)

sal

19th May 2009, 14:29

It was also reported in Mnews last week that you can park your car and actually stay in it to watch a particular stage.

Organisers have obviously not been to many events....... ;)

Or too many in Scotland at that time of year!! If it's not the midges it's the rain that will get you...

Joking aside I agree with your sentiments about the lack of understanding by the blazers..

Whinlatter

19th May 2009, 22:10

I just got my map out to try and work out the route in Achray, Loch Ard and Fairyknowe.... and I think I need a new map! It's from 1981 and there's hardly any roads in Achray....... :(

19th July 2009, 20:23

wwbroe

19th July 2009, 22:37

Can someone who knows the area better let me know where the best central point to stay would be, for service and stages?

Thinking of heading up north for this one, but being the UK it will probably cost me as much overall as going to a nice sunny European round!

As the start is in Perth and the finish in Stirling you could try to find accomoadation in the middle of the two towns. Myself i will saty two nights in Perth and two in Stirling. :D

J4MIE

19th July 2009, 23:32

Crieff is probably your best bet for a central place to stay, no idea about hotels in the area though.

alleskids

25th July 2009, 19:59

Marcus Grobholm is in negotiations with Abarth Racing for a Grande Punto S2000 in the Rally Scotland

Barreis

25th July 2009, 20:16

That would be cool..

J4MIE

26th July 2009, 00:03

Would be awesome to see him over here :up:

Draft itinerary has been put on the website: http://www.rallyscotland.tv/downloads/Route_2.3.pdf

anto-t

30th July 2009, 15:12

eurosport are going to cover 2 stages live...

1 each day... its going to be good seeing live rallying in forests...

18th August 2009, 18:52

Travelodge have another sale on at the moment: http://www.travelodge.co.uk/saver_rooms/

HaCo

5th September 2009, 11:16

Somebody knows when shakedown will be held?

Thanks!

J4MIE

6th September 2009, 00:24

Somebody knows when shakedown will be held?

There is not a shakedown planned for the event at the moment. There are rumours though that some drivers will compete in the Colin McRae Stages in October which uses some of the same stages in Perthshire.

noel157

6th September 2009, 00:42

There is not a shakedown planned for the event at the moment. There are rumours though that some drivers will compete in the Colin McRae Stages in October which uses some of the same stages in Perthshire.

Meeke will compete on the McRae Stages in ex Brookes Mk 2.

Karbonyl

8th September 2009, 01:25

Polish site rajdy.autoklub.pl talks about Skoda Rally Team Italy with Longhi behind the wheel in Scotland? Any signs of confirmation? :)

8th September 2009, 07:48

Polish site rajdy.autoklub.pl talks about Skoda Rally Team Italy with Longhi behind the wheel in Scotland? Any signs of confirmation? :)

That story was in Autosport last week, which is where I expect the Polish site got the news. No idea if it is true.

noel157

21st September 2009, 19:29

Mark Higgins is planning to do Rally Scotland in the MG. Apparently car will have more development done over the next 2 months.

Kronos may put Meeke in a 207 S2k on the McRae stages as a prelude to Rally Scotland (only at planning stage despite what has been written elsewhere). I presume the rule that forbids testing/reccing on a European championship rally prior to the event doesn't apply in this instance although Meeke will run, if he turns up, as safety car. Meeke has currently entered in the ex Brookes Escort. So things may change.

HaCo

21st September 2009, 20:20

What exactly is forbidden, as most of the drivers have done a lot of events this year... :)

noel157

21st September 2009, 22:15

What exactly is forbidden, as most of the drivers have done a lot of events this year... :)

McRae Stages uses the same or some of the stages that Rally Scotland use so in effect if a crew does both events it could constitute illegal reccing I suppose.

Pinto

23rd September 2009, 04:02

Meeke to do 00 in the 207 now

HaCo

23rd September 2009, 20:17

Just ordered my tickets :D Pitty there is no shakedown :(

AndyRAC

28th September 2009, 12:26

Will be booking my tickets soon, yes I'm a mug for paying £50.
On another point; on quite a few of the rounds, Ypres, Asturias, San Remo, there has been a strong local entry in S2000's. Sadly, when we get to Scotland, that will not be the case. It would be nice if next year the local importers Skoda UK, Fiat Abarth UK could support some British drivers.

HaCo

28th September 2009, 18:32

Maybe the MG S2000? And why not more than one Proton?

noel157

28th September 2009, 20:26

Maybe the MG S2000? And why not more than one Proton?

Mark Higgins plans to enter in an updated MG S2K. Without a national championship as developed as Italy and other European countries there certainly won't be many extra entries.
I do hope Skoda still enter.

noel157

28th September 2009, 20:28

Mirek

28th September 2009, 21:45

I do hope Skoda still enter.

I do hope as well but I don't consider it very likely :(

HaCo

29th September 2009, 16:53

Is there still no shakedown planned?

Tom206wrc

30th September 2009, 14:40

No news about the candidates for the BFGoodrich driver team ??? :p :

Tom206wrc

30th September 2009, 14:42

Meeke to do 00 in the 207 now

Oh no I won't be able to follow him on live results board of the McRae's stages rally, then :mad: :(

noel157

30th September 2009, 21:18

No news about the candidates for the BFGoodrich driver team ??? :p :

Hi Tom, we've a few weeks to go until the deadline for applications, look on the BFG Drive thread for the timetable.

noel157

6th October 2009, 12:27

AndyRAC

6th October 2009, 15:38

Any further news if Skoda are going to Scotland? Would certainly help to do the event for the 2010 season and also to give Hanninen the chance to go for a victory. I wonder if Skoda UK could be persuaded to help?

Which would be nice - I'd like to see them go further and back a British driver next year. I believe the UK was one of the biggest sellers for the Fabia vRS, so there is a market/following for fast Skodas.

Pinto

6th October 2009, 16:27

herd vibes some where that skoda will not be going to scotland wasnt in the overall plans and with the championship gone they dont see much point in going

HaCo

6th October 2009, 16:47

Recieved my tickets today :)

6th October 2009, 17:43

Skoda have said they won't go and will concentrate on preparations for next year instead.

I hope maybe though that RGRS or maybe some other private team will run a Fabia in Scotland.

MJW

6th October 2009, 19:27

Entry deadline has been extended to October 16th, and on another forum there is speculation that the rally wont run due to lack of entries. Some saying 6 IRC entrants.

HaCo

6th October 2009, 19:52

Entry deadline has been extended to October 16th, and on another forum there is speculation that the rally wont run due to lack of entries. Some saying 6 IRC entrants.

Owh :(

6th October 2009, 21:58

Entry deadline has been extended to October 16th, and on another forum there is speculation that the rally wont run due to lack of entries. Some saying 6 IRC entrants.

I can believe there might only be 6 S2000 entries (end of the season and probably no Skoda) but it would be a great shame if it didn't run at all. There is a fair amount of interest in this thread already and a fair few planning to go.

Isn't that deadline a bit early? Rally doesn't start for another 5 weeks after that.

MJW

6th October 2009, 22:47

Someone who seems to know about the event has posted on that other forum, and everything seems to be OK. Actually looking quite good, with rumoured entrants. Including Abarth, and Rene Georges Skoda's - here's hoping.

Mirek

6th October 2009, 22:52

Michal Solowow should be there with his 207 as well.

wwbroe

6th October 2009, 23:40

I was told just now that neither Loix or Vouilloz will do Scotland, championship is over and no places can be won. :( I have allready booked everything so i will probably go anyhow, at least when it will take place.

AndyRAC

7th October 2009, 00:26

I'm glad I haven't yet ordered my Ticket - no Skoda, no Fast Freddy or Vouilloz. Oh dear, not good. Let's hope they get enough entries so it runs. It would be yet another kick in the teeth for UK Rallying if it didn't.

Barreis

7th October 2009, 00:26

Cool place to see..

7th October 2009, 09:03

I would have gone if the works Skodas were going.

Hope to see a few top UK names in N4 cars if not S2000s.

Allyc85

7th October 2009, 22:08

So how come you guys arnt moaning about the IRC having a lack of entrys, yet will take any excuse to moan at the WRC?

Not having a go, just curious :)

AndyRAC

7th October 2009, 22:53

So how come you guys arnt moaning about the IRC having a lack of entrys, yet will take any excuse to moan at the WRC?

Not having a go, just curious :)

That's actually a very interesting question. Can't speak for everybody else, but I think because people have a lot of goodwill towards the IRC - they're more likely to give it a bit of leeway. Whereras the WRC keeps messing up for whatever reason - 17WRCars on RallyGB.....

noel157

8th October 2009, 00:48

So how come you guys arnt moaning about the IRC having a lack of entrys, yet will take any excuse to moan at the WRC?

Not having a go, just curious :)

How about because the entry / entries received list isn't available?

Tom206wrc

8th October 2009, 11:44

Entry deadline has been extended to October 16th, and on another forum there is speculation that the rally wont run due to lack of entries. Some saying 6 IRC entrants.

:eek: :s

Tom206wrc

8th October 2009, 11:46

I was told just now that neither Loix or Vouilloz will do Scotland, championship is over and no places can be won. :( ...

Smells the end of collaboration between them and Kronos then :mark:

8th October 2009, 13:40

MEM are indeed looking to run Alister McRae alongside Wilks in Scotland.

karlzoro

8th October 2009, 18:20

MEM are indeed looking to run Alister McRae alongside Wilks in Scotland.

that's positive news, now let's hope for more of that :rolleyes:
Everything is booked for Scotland, wordt case scenario: city trips to Edinburgh, Glasgow, the scottish highlands & whiskey ;) but I believe that it will be great rally to watch and drive...never give up hope guys!!

HaCo

8th October 2009, 18:24

There is not even one former Britisch champion starting in Rally GB, so let's hope the active ones will be in Scotland :D

BTW: weren't there supposed to be live stages for Scotland?

Tom206wrc

9th October 2009, 14:06

Even if Kronos aren't present(because they chose Condroz with Loix and...Debackere!!), will Meeke and the BFGoodrich driver still run Scotland :confused: :confused:

Karbonyl

9th October 2009, 14:48

You have to separate Kronos and Peugeot Belux :)

noel157

9th October 2009, 15:15

Even if Kronos aren't present(because they chose Condroz with Loix and...Debackere!!), will Meeke and the BFGoodrich driver still run Scotland :confused: :confused:

I think Kronos, Meeke and BFG car and driver will be there.

Allyc85

9th October 2009, 15:47

Taken from http://www.britishrally.co.uk

The planning for Rally of Scotland is well underway with the Road Books, Rally Guide, Time cards etc. all at the printers ready for the IRC competitors arriving in Stirling on Monday 16th November. This is the first year of a minimum 3 year agreement with Event Scotland, Perth & Kinross and Stirling Councils as well as the IRC promoters, Eurosport Events.

The deadline for entries has been extended by 4 days to accommodate the extra entries that are expected for this new event. This has been a tough year for everyone financially and the last two weekends have seen the conclusion of the British Rally Championship, the Scottish Rally Championship, the Sanremo Rally and entries close for Rally GB. Meaning that people are only now getting round to the UK’s newest International.

Kris Meeke is keen to make this event his celebration on claiming the Championship only 9 days ago in Sanremo. He will be taking on his 3 Kronos Racing team mates, Abarth look like sending a two car entry, Proton are also talking about running a second car, Rene George will have some exciting news with Skoda, plus some other privateer Skodas, Honda are sending 3 cars, Franz Wittmann has already announced his participation and Hankook are wanting to capitalise on their first year in Scotland as a sponsor with a big event. On top of this there are entries from Hungary and France.

At the weekend Mark Higgins stated that he would be back in Perth for Rally of Scotland. The Top 3 Group N winners in the Hankook MSA Scottish Rally Championship all have entries, as do the winners in the Fiesta Sporting Trophy, Citroen C2R2 Cup and Suzuki Swift Challenge. On top of this there is the biggest prize of all, the BF Goodrich Driver’s Team car.

Rally of Scotland also has the team that started rallying in Scotland 40 years ago on the Scottish; the Armed Forces Land Rover team and all the competitors in the National B section on the Saturday. All this and 4 hours of live television on Eurosport, highlights every day, spectacular locations for the stages and service.

The event IS going ahead; this will be a fantastic show and competition, with many very exciting items still to be announced. And there is always the sight of Jim Mcrae back out in the Ford Sierra RS Cosworth that won the Scottish in 1988.

HaCo

9th October 2009, 17:33

Sounds good... :)

9th October 2009, 19:42

Hmmm, wonder who the exciting one in the Fabia is??

Any word on who Abarth will take? I expect maybe Basso and Duval, since they failed to get Gronholm.

Mirek

9th October 2009, 21:39

Allyc85: Not right unfortunately, as far as I know there will be only 2 cars from Kronos (Meeke and BFG), only one Proton (Alister) and possibly no Abarth. No works Skoda for sure...

Tom206wrc

9th October 2009, 23:31

I guess next week we will have the entrylist :confused:

I hope we gets the name of the lucky BFGoodrich driver before, though :mark:

noel157

10th October 2009, 02:05

I guess next week we will have the entrylist :confused:

I hope we gets the name of the lucky BFGoodrich driver before, though :mark:

Tom, applications for the drive do not close until Oct 26th and the judging happens on Nov 6th so might be some time before we hear any news.

noel157

10th October 2009, 10:18

I wonder if Wilks has posted his application yet...............

11th October 2009, 17:41

Loix and Vouilloz will miss Scotland: http://www.rallye-info.com/article.asp?sid=0&stid=8274

I guess this is what you get when the event is at the end of the season and competing in the whole championship is not compulsory :(

AndyRAC

11th October 2009, 18:21

Very disappointing.....

15th October 2009, 17:48

Autosport.com are expecting Kopecky to appear in Scotland in a private Fabia, on the other hand they are only expecting one Abarth.

alleskids

15th October 2009, 19:57

So far the only "big "" names known are Kris Meeke (Peugeot), Alister McRae (Proton), Anton Alen (Abarth) and Franz Wittman (Mitsubishi)

noel157

16th October 2009, 00:07

Autosport.com are expecting Kopecky to appear in Scotland in a private Fabia, on the other hand they are only expecting one Abarth.

I heard about Kopecky putting a deal together for Scotland also from a different source. Skoda UK possibly but with a works car?

Mirek

16th October 2009, 13:17

Škoda Motorsport truck was seen today on a motorway heading to the western border. Maybe it means Kopecký will start, or maybe it means something different... :)

noel157

16th October 2009, 18:24

]Škoda Motorsport truck was seen today on a motorway heading to the western border. Maybe it means Kopecký will start, or maybe it means something different... :)

Well the truck certainly won't be late arriving in Scotland.......

Nice hint Mirek.

Buzz Lightyear

16th October 2009, 20:16

Are they testing in UK?

HaCo

20th October 2009, 17:28

Any news on the event?

Tom206wrc

20th October 2009, 17:59

Entrylist deadline was 16th october...and still no news(even of the BFGoodrich frive) ???? :s

HaCo

20th October 2009, 18:11

Entrylist deadline was 16th october...and still no news(even of the BFGoodrich frive) ???? :s

Tought the BFG driver will be decided much later...

Mirek

20th October 2009, 18:15

In my opinion BFG should be decided before the closing date of entries to prevent double entry (and useless entry fee payment of course).

teufel

20th October 2009, 19:26

Gordini

20th October 2009, 19:35

Who are the BFG nominees ?

noel157

20th October 2009, 22:54

As said many times before BFG applications do not close until Oct 26th and judging will take place Nov 6th. More info in the BFG thread.

bluuford

21st October 2009, 09:55

Honda asked some of their customers to take part at the scottish round of IRC to score points for them. 3 crews from Hungary will compete with their Civic R3: Vizin, Puskádi and Lévai and one crew from Estonia.
http://bit.ly/1SQ8yY

Kaspar Koitla (2wd winner in Russian IRC, Russian 2wd champion and Estonian 2wd champion) has confirmed that he takes part in Scotland. He wants to take third place in 2wd cup (he has currently taken part only in Russia and he has 10 points, third place is on 11 points :-)). He is driving with old Civic Type-R, but he is very fast.
Source: http://sport.postimees.ee/?id=177921

Karbonyl

21st October 2009, 11:27

Great!

WRC1

22nd October 2009, 09:10

taken from the regulations:

http://www.rallyscotland.tv/downloads/DFA_RoS_Regulations_2009_FINAL_V2_low_res.pdf

Wednesday 21st October
Road Books, Route Map and Rally Guide available
List of accepted entries published in seeded order

any infos about the entries??

reg

wrc1

HaCo

22nd October 2009, 11:10

Maybe that document is no longer valid, as the entry date limit has been moved as well...

Francis44

23rd October 2009, 19:31

Kopecky will be in the event, not with an official Skoda but with one from the italian distribuitor Mlada Boleslav.

wwbroe

23rd October 2009, 20:12

Kopecky will be in the event, not with an official Skoda but with one from the italian distribuitor Mlada Boleslav.

That would be great if it is true, what is your source for this news? ;)

Francis44

23rd October 2009, 20:13

That would be great if it is true, what is your source for this news? ;)

Read it on Autorsport PT,link....

http://autosport.aeiou.pt/gen.pl?p=stories&op=view&fokey=as.stories/78124

;) .

noel157

23rd October 2009, 20:47

Let's hope it's officially confirmed soon. Strange that Skoda Italy are funding it rather than Skoda UK.

VFTS

23rd October 2009, 21:29

That would be great if it is true, what is your source for this news? ;)

Pressrelease today:

All but one of the Intercontinental Rally Challenge’s seven manufacturers will represented on RACMSA Rally of Scotland next month, the man in charge of running the event has confirmed.

Clerk of the course Iain Campbell said he was pleased with the level of interest showed by competitors so far and added that the variety of different cars would guarantee thrilling action on the stages when the event runs from November 19-21.

“Although both the IRC and 2WD Cup titles are wrapped up, almost every manufacturer will be represented and that’s great news,” said Campbell. “It’s fair to say we haven’t got as many entries as we had hoped but the quality is impeccable and it will be good for the British drivers who will get a lot of the attention.”

Great news for the fans who have followed the action in 2009 is that Czech hero Jan Kopecky is one of those set to take part. Despite surrendering the battle for this year's IRC crown to Kris Meeke in Sanremo last month, Kopecky will aim to end his season on a high in Scotland.

Kopecky, who cannot be caught for second in the drivers’ standings, is likely to drive a privately-run Skoda Fabia 2000 because the factory team, who whom he has driven all season, have not included the Scottish round in its original schedule.

David Bogie, the winner of the Motor Sports Association-sanctioned Scottish Rally Championship, will make his Intercontinental Rally Challenge debut on Rally of Scotland next month.

The 22-year-old from Dumfries clinched the Scottish title on the Colin McRae Forest Stages in early October. The event uses the same stages that will be included in the itinerary for the IRC finale on November 19-20.

“There was no way I was going to miss this – it’s such a huge event and it’s coming to my country,” said Bogie, who will drive a Ralliart Lancer E9. “I know the terrain and the stages but I don’t for one minute think I will be on the same pace as the leading IRC boys. But I’d like to think I can put on a good show.”

Bogie, who is highly rated in his homeland, is one of three local drivers to have won a free entry for the gravel event as part of his prize for finishing in the top three of Scottish Group N classification.

He joins a wealth of top talent from across Great Britain and Ireland including newly-crowned IRC champion Kris Meeke, this year's MSA British Rally Championship winner Keith Cronin and former British and Asia-Pacific champion Alister McRae

The Intercontinental Rally Challenge will feature two mixed surface events next season. And Kris Meeke, the IRC drivers’ champion, said he cannot wait to take on the challenge of competing on gravel and asphalt on the same rally.

IRC’s provisional 12-event calendar for 2010 will include mixed surface rounds in Italy (Sanremo) and Cyprus. Drivers will tackle one leg on asphalt before switching to gravel for the other leg, with teams required to make alterations to the set-up of their cars during the overnight halt.

The format will not only test the teams, but will also require the drivers to adapt their driving styles from one day to the next.

“It’s an awesome calendar with some classic events,” said Meeke. “I can’t wait to get started and the mixed surface rallies are going to be something really different and really exciting.”

Citroen WRC driver Sebastien Ogier wants to defend his Monte Carlo Rally victory by entering the opening round of the Intercontinental Rally Challenge next January.

Ogier delivered victory at the wheel of the BFGoodrich Drivers’ Team Peugeot 207 S2000 with a mature performance on the world's most famous rally back in January. Now he wants to return for the spectacular event when it opens the IRC's 2010 calendar.

“I would have to drive a Peugeot again because of my relationship with the Peugeot family through the Citroen brand,” said the 25-year-old Frenchman. “I would also have to make sure that I am in a car that I can fight to win. If these two things happen then I would love to do the event because it is very important and a very tough challenge for any driver.”

Ogier competes for the Citroen Junior Team on the WRC but has made no secret of his desire to tackle more IRC events. Next year’s Monte Carlo Rally takes place from January 19-23 and includes 14 hours of live television coverage.

Karbonyl

24th October 2009, 10:54

According to the official website, the closing date for entries has been extended up to 7th of November.

noel157

24th October 2009, 14:19

According to the official website, the closing date for entries has been extended up to 7th of November.

With BFG driver judging on the 6th.

GTA

25th October 2009, 00:50

Kopecky will be in the event, not with an official Skoda but with one from the italian distribuitor Mlada Boleslav..

i would not bet on that...

wwbroe

25th October 2009, 08:06

.

i would not bet on that...

Do you know more Jack? Please share it with us, will there be any car from RGRS in Scotland? :)

Pinto

27th October 2009, 02:46

talk about the irish forums that keith cronin will be in a punto

HaCo

27th October 2009, 08:08

This is in gpweek.com:

Details about the first entries for Britain’s final international rally of the year, the IRC Rally of Scotland, list five Super 2000 entries (two Kronos team cars for the Peugeot UK driver and IRC champion Kris Meeke and the BF Goodrich celebrity driver), Alister McRae in a Proton Satria Neo, British champion Keith Cronin in a Fiat Grande Punto and a Skoda for gentleman driver Peter Stephenson. The identity of the Celebrity driver is due to be announced around two weeks before the start. This is the final round of the IRC series and will run 19-21 November.

urabus-denoS2000

27th October 2009, 09:32

Nice to see Cronin in an Punto ;)

However,only 5 S2000...

Buzz Lightyear

27th October 2009, 11:55

plus maybe Kopecky

Pinto

28th October 2009, 00:56

Nice to see Cronin in an Punto ;)

However,only 5 S2000...

but im not 100% sure he could end up in his evo 9 yet

AndyRAC

28th October 2009, 09:37

Nice to see Cronin in an Punto ;)

However,only 5 S2000...

Really disappointing, still undecided on going.....

Tom206wrc

28th October 2009, 11:02

Sad, sad...entrylist :(

Buzz Lightyear

28th October 2009, 11:28

Is it Hirvonen or Wilson driving the Fiesta S2000 as course car?

If it's Wilson, im not going to bother going...

28th October 2009, 13:46

Is it Hirvonen or Wilson driving the Fiesta S2000 as course car?

If it's Wilson, im not going to bother going...

What do you mean? Wilson is from the WRC so he must be much much faster than all the others ;)

rsmith16

28th October 2009, 17:25

but im not 100% sure he could end up in his evo 9 yet

According to www.rally.ie (http://www.rally.ie) it's seems like he's confirmed he's in the Abarth.

28th October 2009, 17:28

Maybe Wilks, Brynildsen and Kopecky in Fabias now:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/79806

If that turns out to be true, I'm a bit annoyed I can no longer go!

alleskids

28th October 2009, 18:43

HaCo

28th October 2009, 20:48

Is it Hirvonen or Wilson driving the Fiesta S2000 as course car?

If it's Wilson, im not going to bother going...

Is this for sure?

Mirek

28th October 2009, 20:57

Pinto

28th October 2009, 21:40

According to www.rally.ie (http://www.rally.ie) it's seems like he's confirmed he's in the Abarth.

yes its on keith's web site http://www.croninmotorsport.com/

AndyRAC

28th October 2009, 23:38

yes its on keith's web site http://www.croninmotorsport.com/

Good news, well done. Let's hope he puts in a good performance, I'm sure he will.

farquar wrc

29th October 2009, 10:06

Is this for sure?

Malcolm Wilson said Hirvonen will be opening car on the S2000 Fiesta's debut

alterdaxter

29th October 2009, 12:37

Rene George Rally Sport confirmed to Autosport.com that will handle the Fabia S2000 for Jan Kopecky, and probably two other(Wilks and Brynildsen). RGRS is making a good name for them selve with Skoda Motorsport :)

Are you referring to this article (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/79806)? Where do you read the confirmation by RGRS?

This (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/79815) is more likely what RGRS is going to do in Scotland...

Mirek

29th October 2009, 14:00

Yes, it seems to be truth that Kopecky won't start...

29th October 2009, 14:12

]Yes, it seems to be truth that Kopecky won't start...

Shame but Brynildsen and/or Wilks will be good substitutes.

alleskids

29th October 2009, 15:19

Are you referring to this article (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/79806)? Where do you read the confirmation by RGRS?

It was a Belgium scourse with inside information on the Skoda rally activities, so my guess was RGRS

29th October 2009, 18:43

Nasser Al Attiyah has entered Rally Scotland, probably with his Subaru but maybe with a Fabia S2000.

HaCo

29th October 2009, 18:59

Another great entry! :D

AlfaWRC

30th October 2009, 12:45

Nasser Al Attiyah has entered Rally Scotland, probably with his Subaru but maybe with a Fabia S2000.

A brand new Fabia S2000 was sent from Skoda to Dubai two weeks ago. So maybe that fits together.

PLuto

30th October 2009, 13:33

Two Fabias were sent...

J4MIE

2nd November 2009, 00:54

I have just noticed a link on the event's website which says it will be showing live coverage online, it might be useful for some of you guys:

http://events.servercorporation.com/

Not sure what you have to do or how it works as I will be in the forests at the time so have no need for it ;)

Rally Power

2nd November 2009, 19:45

After all, Scotland seems will have a quite decent entry list. Any MG expected?

4Regioni

2nd November 2009, 21:16

Wittman - Ettel Mitsu Evo 9
A. McRae - Proton S2000
Meeke - Peugeot 207 S2000
Kopecky - Skoda S2000
al attiyah - impreza o Fabia s2000
Wilks - Fabia s200 o 207 s2000
M. Higgins - MG S2000
Brynildsen - fabia s2000 ???
Cronin - Abarth s2000
Boland - Mitsu evo X
Fisher - Mitsu Evo 9
Vizin -Honda Civic R3
Puskadi - Honda Civic R3
Levai - Honda Civic R3
Koitla - Honda Civic R3

Mirek

2nd November 2009, 21:29

That's not right.

Buzz Lightyear

3rd November 2009, 21:20

I have a feeling that if Wilks get the BFG drive, then Kopecky will start in Skoda

Tom206wrc

3rd November 2009, 22:00

Wittmann in Mitsu ??? Why did he use a 207 at Waldviertel ??? It was a one-shot ??? :s :s

3rd November 2009, 22:03

I have a feeling that if Wilks get the BFG drive, then Kopecky will start in Skoda

I take it that you mean Skoda UK would fund Wilks' drive but will fund Kopecky if Wilks got the 207?

3rd November 2009, 22:04

Wittmann in Mitsu ??? Why did he use a 207 at Waldviertel ??? It was a one-shot ??? :s :s

I think that Wittmann was planning for next year...

Buzz Lightyear

3rd November 2009, 22:14

I take it that you mean Skoda UK would fund Wilks' drive but will fund Kopecky if Wilks got the 207?

Who pays for it, I dont really mind, but I think there is only 2 cars sent.

J4MIE

3rd November 2009, 23:32

Only 16 days until the start, we'll get there eventually guys :bounce:

ProRally

4th November 2009, 08:44

Two Fabias were sent...

Any idea to who ?

karlzoro

4th November 2009, 21:09

Only 16 days until the start, we'll get there eventually guys :bounce:
I'm looking forward to come to "sunny Scotland" :)
I still hope you can buy tickets there on wednesday...

fdebruyne

5th November 2009, 17:42

I'm looking forward to come to "sunny Scotland" :)
I still hope you can buy tickets there on wednesday...

I think there will be allot of belgians there ;)

HaCo

5th November 2009, 19:05

Yep, I will be there with my father as well :D

fdebruyne

5th November 2009, 21:25

Yep, I will be there with my father as well :D

Ow nice,

We will be there with some SuperStage/AMV members...

wwbroe

6th November 2009, 00:05

And we will be there also. Looking forward to it. :)

6th November 2009, 14:13

Guy Wilks is being supported by Skoda UK for Rally Scotland:

http://www.rallye-info.com/article.asp?sid=0&stid=8309

I wonder if there is a chance they could extend their deal into 2010, similar to Peugeot UK/Kris Meeke?...

MJW

6th November 2009, 14:48

So Guy is not the BFG driver then.

Rally_Rocks

6th November 2009, 14:52

VSF drive goes to Adam Gould. Best of a mediocre lot really.

Rally_Rocks

6th November 2009, 14:53

Apologies, that obviously should have read BFG. Bloody auto correct!

J4MIE

6th November 2009, 18:12

I've seen Adam a few times now and he's always impressed me by how hard he is trying. He has had a few accidents so wish him and Seb the best of luck with this opportunity they have been given :up:

HaCo

6th November 2009, 18:45

That means an extra S2000, which is good! Hope to see some firework, so it will not be an easy walk from Meeke!

Buzz Lightyear

6th November 2009, 19:31

Gould is not on the same radar screen as Wilks, Meeke, and its not even best of the rest, as McShea etc, would have undoubtable been quicker drivers. It will be a real eye-opener for any young driver, they will be miles off the pace. The trick is to learn form it.

ProRally

6th November 2009, 20:57

But Gould shouted to the world that HE WILL be UK's next WORLD RALLY CHAMPION .... lets see what he can do in Scotland IRC event :D

Buzz Lightyear

6th November 2009, 21:02

But Gould shouted to the world that HE WILL be UK's next WORLD RALLY CHAMPION .... lets see what he can do in Scotland IRC event :D

i sincerly hope he didnt? did he?

chris16valve

6th November 2009, 21:43

niall mcshea should have got that drive

noel157

7th November 2009, 12:00

i sincerly hope he didnt? did he?

He did, on his website - "With a desire to achieve ultimate professionalism; talent, ambition, hard work and determination continue to drive Adam towards his ultimate goal – becoming Britain’s next World Rally Champion."

I can't see that happening after this season's performance but maybe other's see it.

Entry is due out today, no?

Wasted Talent

7th November 2009, 13:46

He did, on his website - "With a desire to achieve ultimate professionalism; talent, ambition, hard work and determination continue to drive Adam towards his ultimate goal – becoming Britain’s next World Rally Champion."

I can't see that happening after this season's performance but maybe other's see it.

Entry is due out today, no?

To be fair there is a bit of difference between having an "ultimate goal", and stating HE WILL BE....

Doubt he will though

WT

HaCo

7th November 2009, 13:59

Nothing wrong with being ambitious...

Wonder when the entrance list will be released.

Pinto

7th November 2009, 15:55

VSF drive goes to Adam Gould. Best of a mediocre lot really.

and tell on what basis to you form this oppinion

Niall McShea, Marty McCormick, Barry Clark, Guy Wilks, Adam Gould and David Bogie the final 6, gould and bogie i wouldnt have there but please tell me whats wrong with the rest

cyr

9th November 2009, 11:00

no news about the list !? :mad:

Rally_Rocks

9th November 2009, 11:19

Take Guy Wilks out of the list, he withdrew his BFG entry. You'd be very hard pushed to class the remaining names as anything other than mediocre. Although I am talking about drivers in world class competition. On a national level, I'll give it to you, perhaps mediocre is a touch harsh.

alleskids

9th November 2009, 17:26

Tim Stebani from Germany will be in Scotland with the Opels Corsa S200 from MSD.

wwbroe

9th November 2009, 20:10

Still no news about entrylist, i suppose it should be known by now :confused: :( :confused:

J4MIE

9th November 2009, 21:53

Have a little patience, it will come soon enough :)

noel157

10th November 2009, 01:16

Have a little patience, it will come soon enough :)

So is Christmas. 9 days to go, should've been out by now. Let's hope tomorrow.

MJW

10th November 2009, 11:06

Entry list(s) now on event website - for people who commeted on Rally GB entry being poor, check this out. I guess WRC /IRC are thrilled with teh quality and quantity.

bluuford

10th November 2009, 11:34

Entry list(s) now on event website - for people who commeted on Rally GB entry being poor, check this out. I guess WRC /IRC are thrilled with teh quality and quantity.
Martin Kangur is little surprise for me. He is the protege of Urmo Aava with Urmos co-driver Kuldar Sikk. He is driving the latest Civic R3 car. So, In Scotland it seems that the best thing can expect is the fight in 2WD. We have five S2000 cars but most probably only 2 of them are going to fight with each-other

AndyRAC

10th November 2009, 11:45

Entry list(s) now on event website - for people who commeted on Rally GB entry being poor, check this out. I guess WRC /IRC are thrilled with teh quality and quantity.

Mmm, extremely disappointing entry. Not sure it's worth paying the £50 ticket to watch that, and I had booked time off months ago.
Personally, I think that a current Scottish round should have been chosen, rather than inventing a new Rally. But of course, that would mean no money for IMS. Sad, as there was a lot of good will to the event when it was announced.

noel157

10th November 2009, 11:55

It's only the first Rally Scotland and the being the last in the series and Meeke's domination it got a bum deal but with a better (slightly) date next year it should be better.

http://www.rallyscotland.tv/downloads/2009_ROS_International_List_of_Entries_FINAL_09-11-09.pdf

noel157

10th November 2009, 12:19

Fiesta will break cover as as safety car with Wilson driving. Car will debut on RMC:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80113

Wasted Talent

10th November 2009, 14:59

Hmmm, have to say the entry is poor.........

WT

Sulland

10th November 2009, 15:51

Very thin list indeed !
Not always easy being last on the list, when everything is decided already. A bit sorry for the staff putting it toghether.

sal

10th November 2009, 16:23

Cyprus is the last round next year. Maybe the Scottish organisers could have used some of the promotional budget to sweeten the entry list?

10th November 2009, 17:34

The entry is poor, but in IRC competing in all rounds is not compulsory and the championships are decided.

I am sure having it as penultimate round next year will make it better.

Tom206wrc

10th November 2009, 18:09

:mark:

But curious to see what Allister McRae can do in the Proton, though ;)

10th November 2009, 18:16

Wilks' Fabia: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80120

Wilks vs. Meeke will probably be the most interesting aspect of Rally Scotland.

Sulland

10th November 2009, 18:22

Have the Opel got any upgrades lately, or are they still just collecting data ?

Barreis

10th November 2009, 21:07

http://www.rallyscotland.tv/downloads/2009_ROS_International_List_of_Entries_FINAL_09-11-09.pdf

urabus-denoS2000

10th November 2009, 22:19

Interesting to see the liveries of Peugeot UK and Škoda UK ;)

cyr

11th November 2009, 00:00

Keith Cronin will drive S2000 ?
because on the list it's write "IRC 2WD"

J4MIE

11th November 2009, 00:22

Keith Cronin will drive S2000 ?
because on the list it's write "IRC 2WD"

I'm sure it must be a mistake, it is definitely a S2000 he has :)

cyr

11th November 2009, 00:48

tanks

http://www.keithcroninrallying.com/index.php/component/content/article/3-cronin-motorsport/71-abarth-punto-for-rally-scotland-

noel157

11th November 2009, 01:10

Keith Cronin will drive S2000 ?
because on the list it's write "IRC 2WD"

Forget the list, silly mistake.
Cronin has hired a Grifone Abarth S2K.

AndyRAC

11th November 2009, 11:49

With the lack of entries, should the organisers been more pro-active and paid/invited the other top IRC cars/drivers to the event?
Even the National event which runs for 3 stages on Saturday has a small entry, but still runs - so there is obviously a lot of money behind the event.

Wim_Impreza

12th November 2009, 11:15

http://www.rallyscotland.tv/downloads/2009_ROS_International_List_of_Entries_FINAL_09-11-09.pdf

I only see a white paper. :(

On ewrc-results, they have only the first 14 drivers: http://www.ewrc-results.com/startlist.php?event=425
Is this the full entry list?

noel157

12th November 2009, 12:16

I only see a white paper. :(

On ewrc-results, they have only the first 14 drivers: http://www.ewrc-results.com/startlist.php?event=425
Is this the full entry list?

34 International entries Wim. Try this:

http://www.ircseries.com/html/uploadedFiles/PDF/20091111205144.11.EntryList.pdf

Wim_Impreza

12th November 2009, 12:50

noel157

12th November 2009, 13:18

Junior, I think he's Scottish.

Edit - http://www.westonjunior.com/

Wim_Impreza

12th November 2009, 13:22

Thanks again.

J4MIE

12th November 2009, 13:30

Thank you.

More questions: I know Alister McRae is a Scottish driver, but are there also other Scottish drivers and co-drivers that has 'GB' behind their name? Is it Dave Weston or Dave Weston jr. that is entering the rally?

5 David Bogie/Kevin Rae
14 Jock Armstrong/Kirsty Riddick
15 Willie Bonniwell/Neil Ewing
17 Euan Thorburn
18 Donnie MacDonald/Paul Beaton
31 Colin Smith/Craig Chapman
32 Stuart McQueen/Neil Shanks

I would assume it's Dave Weston Junior as he normally drives an Impreza.

Wim_Impreza

12th November 2009, 13:42

Thank you, J4MIE. It is indeed Dave Weston Junior and I also saw on his site it is an Impreza N12.

J4MIE

12th November 2009, 23:13

Are most people arriving next Wednesday?

AndyRAC

12th November 2009, 23:22

Still undecided on whether to go or not. A long way to travel for 5/6 S2000's, and only 34 cars entered. Plus the £50 ticket, and it appears no overnight parking in the forests.

J4MIE

12th November 2009, 23:49

Is that a no then? ;)

13th November 2009, 22:02

Robert Reid will be doing the English language commentary on Eurosport during Rally Scotland.

HaCo

16th November 2009, 12:25

Does somebody have the stages, I would like to put in my GPS...

noel157

16th November 2009, 13:20

Pinto

16th November 2009, 13:35

Robert Reid will be doing the English language commentary on Eurosport during Rally Scotland.

wonder will Gould get more than his fair share of coverage now

noel157

16th November 2009, 14:25

Brief Meeke test clip, test stage looks very smooth:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcclflB7bEY

wwbroe

16th November 2009, 16:27

Does somebody have the stages, I would like to put in my GPS...

Hey Hannu, if you give me your e-mail, i can maybe help you with the stages. :)

Xsara Fan

16th November 2009, 21:46

Meeke testing, slightly changed livery on car and service truck:

http://blog.krismeeke.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/l_2048_1536_4B3FA4EB-0709-463D-BD13-5EE1331DB960.jpeg

http://blog.krismeeke.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/l_2048_1536_4FA1EFE0-E1E8-4102-A58C-0173CADD4633.jpeg

Another one photo:

http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs027.snc3/11452_184350631681_568281681_3439100_2800500_n.jpg

J4MIE

16th November 2009, 22:29

That video of the stage looks like it is quite similar to the rest of the stages, maybe they are muddier but the weather forecast is not great. Been away at another event so didn't manage to make it to the Kronos test today. Out first thing tomorrow morning to marshal on the recce :)

bluuford

16th November 2009, 23:04

It was shortly reported that Meeke briefly crashed on a log or smth and broke the steering but it was fixed quickly and he continued testing. The second Peugeot was not so lucky. After 30-35 miles its engine blew up and the day was over for BFG driver.

Mirek

16th November 2009, 23:12

Peugeot has serious problems with engines in last couple of months...

noel157

17th November 2009, 00:12

]Peugeot has serious problems with engines in last couple of months...

Meeke's engine went on the McRae stages after a few kms and now the BFG car goes bang. Mirek, has there been other engine failures or is it just the Scottish air?

17th November 2009, 00:18

Didn't Peugeot have a new evo engine from about Madeira onwards?

Mirek

17th November 2009, 00:25

Noel: It's not always just about engine but at least it's always connected with it somehow. Kris Meeke also retired with engine problems in Rallye du Mont Blanc, Loix had problems with engine electrics in Rallye du Condroz. Vouilloz had an engine fire in Barum Rally. There were also quite a lot of engine troubles with Peugeots here in CZ.

J4MIE

17th November 2009, 01:01

I believe on the McRae Stages it was a water pump failure.

noel157

17th November 2009, 01:30

]Noel: It's not always just about engine but at least it's always connected with it somehow. Kris Meeke also retired with engine problems in Rallye du Mont Blanc, Loix had problems with engine electrics in Rallye du Condroz. Vouilloz had an engine fire in Barum Rally. There were also quite a lot of engine troubles with Peugeots here in CZ.

Thanks Mirek, I perhaps should described the issues as technical failures.

GTA

17th November 2009, 09:19

Perfect test for Guy Wilks and the Skoda Fabia S2000 Yesterday.!.. now we are ready for the battle of the Brits.. :)

HaCo

17th November 2009, 13:20

How can you follow this event on the stages? SMS service?

bluuford

17th November 2009, 13:41

How can you follow this event on the stages? SMS service?

With your ears and eyes open and nose clean :-) Then you can hear the cars, see the cars and smell the cars;-)

cyr

17th November 2009, 13:56

http://www.pjea.com/mobile give news and results live for all irc and wrc

or try that http://www.stagetimes.com/signup_irc.asp

HaCo

17th November 2009, 14:01

http://www.pjea.com/mobile give news and results live for all irc and wrc
That one is bookmarked in my cellphone, will get a prepaid card for that in UK.

PLuto

17th November 2009, 14:34

Franz Wittmann wont start in Scotland - http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=9510

bluuford

17th November 2009, 15:01

Franz Wittmann wont start in Scotland - http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=9510

Well, if it continues like that, then there is a real possibility that in addition to Fiat in 2WD Honda can take over Proton in 4WD manufacturers table.

HaCo

17th November 2009, 15:13

Owh, that's a shame. Why doesn't he start?

Pinto

17th November 2009, 15:18

How can you follow this event on the stages? SMS service?

great news the wrc radio crew are getting to gether for the event do the same type radio station as on wrc events,pugeot uk are backing it.

heres more

http://www.rallybuzz.com/rally-radio-live-rally-scotland/

Pinto

17th November 2009, 15:24

Owh, that's a shame. Why doesn't he start?

i think he doesnt see any point in taking place as he has nothing to gain and basicly he spent the budget for scotland on a run in a s2000 in his home country,as thats where he hopes to go to the irc in a s2000 next year

Mirek

17th November 2009, 15:26

Owh, that's a shame. Why doesn't he start?

He used his budget for start with 207 S2000 in Waldviertel rather than going to Scotland. He used Waldviertel as important test for next season as he said learning new car on familiar roads is better for him. He is in Scotland for recce.

EDIT: Pinto was faster ;)

Pinto

17th November 2009, 15:34

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EDIT: Pinto was faster ;)

you worded it better do google translater doesnt exactly give you the true explaination

Madeira

17th November 2009, 16:35

If you want to follow Guy Wilks on the twitter try here:
http://twitter.com/GuyWilks

dyfi1

17th November 2009, 16:40

Does anyone have time/place for shakedown please?

wwbroe

17th November 2009, 16:47

Does anyone have time/place for shakedown please?

There is no shakedown planned for this event. :(

RICARDO75

17th November 2009, 18:12

First photo from Wilks Skoda
http://www.rallybuzz.com/wilks-skoda-test-pic/

dyfi1

17th November 2009, 18:13

There is no shakedown planned for this event. :(

Thanks for that info.

RICARDO75

17th November 2009, 18:13

... and Keith Cronin Abarth
http://www.keithcroninrallying.com/

J4MIE

17th November 2009, 19:51

All you Belgians coming over here better have your waterproof clothes packed............ looking like proper Scottish weather over the next few days days, may be dry on Saturday if we're lucky but it looks like it will be very muddy indeed!

Tom206wrc

17th November 2009, 23:46