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ioan
25th March 2009, 13:54
In the decisions of the World Council meeting earlier this month, it was noted that despite the Brackley-based team simply requesting a name-change, Brawn would in fact be considered a 'new entry' for this season.

"The contract the team had with the FIA was to run as 'Honda', which they are no longer in a position to do," the FIA said.

Outwardly, the technicality has resulted in Brawn shifting to the very bottom of the pitlane, and being assigned the lowest race numbers for 2009.

But we noted last week that new teams usually must wait to receive full revenue entitlements according to F1's commercial agreements.

It is on this point that the Swiss specialist publication Motorsport Aktuell expresses concerns about the survival of the Mercedes-powered team. It claims that Brawn could not simply change its name to Brawn, therefore keeping Honda's financial status, because while the teams unanimously agreed, Bernie Ecclestone exercised his veto.

Brawn is therefore missing about 22 million (euro) of its projected 2009 budget, in a state of affairs that could date back to a news item in February.

Link to original article: http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/090325074629.shtml

So he is taking revenge because they didn't sell him a stake in the team!

How much lower can he go?!

cosmicpanda
25th March 2009, 14:04
How much lower can he go?!

*insert crack about Bernie's height*

Knock-on
25th March 2009, 14:24
Link to original article: http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/090325074629.shtml

So he is taking revenge because they didn't sell him a stake in the team!

How much lower can he go?!

Yep, I read this earlier and just rolled my eyes.

F1 is a very sick puppy at the moment and cannot continue with these two vindictive, dangerous b**tards running the FIA and FOM.

With each day that passes now, they sink to lower depths.

V12
25th March 2009, 18:45
Yeah I wondered what was going on with the Brawn number change. For example Stewart->Jaguar->Red Bull and Jordan->Midland->Spyker->Force Whatever kept their team numbers and various status when the teams changed identity. Typical Bernie I guess.

ioan
25th March 2009, 19:19
Why does this Muppet have a right of veto in the WMSC?!
Why is he part of the WMSC at all :?:

AndyRAC
25th March 2009, 20:37
Why does this Muppet have a right of veto in the WMSC?!
Why is he part of the WMSC at all :?:

I have wondered that, but I know he was, maybe he still is - FiA Vice President - therefore he somehow has a place on the WMSC.

Wrong, wrong, just wrong!!!

I've said it before - sod the sport - how much money can I make!!

RJL25
25th March 2009, 22:57
I tend to think that either first pit or last pit is better anyway because you either get to drive straight in, or floor it straight out of the lane. But i understand the problem is actually to do with where they get to put all their corporate hospitality stuff at the european rounds, because if your shoved down the back then obviously you don't get the prime positions for your corporate tents and motorhomes etc...

V12
26th March 2009, 03:55
OK, so now Force India (quite rightly, IMO) have stepped in and said the last minute change is out of order since they'd already created promotional info etc. around using numbers 20 and 21. So instead of just being sensible and putting it back to how it was, they've given Brawn 22 and 23! You do get the feeling someone is going out of their way to put them in their place... :s

Roamy
26th March 2009, 04:38
somebody should pound this mophead out of existence - stevie winn's dog bit half his freaking nose off. Between Mophead and MOseley it is a pretty sad state - Where is ole one ear when you need him!!

F1boat
26th March 2009, 06:04
Bernie is evil and is just spitting hatred. I am disgusted, I hope that Brawn survives and wins the race.

Big Ben
26th March 2009, 07:17
I think F1 too needs a dexter

CNR
26th March 2009, 07:31
BS BS BS BS BS

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/73897


The FIA has revised the Formula 1 entry list once again after Force India pushed to get its old race numbers back.
Motor racing's governing body had issued a revised entry list last week because of Brawn GP becoming a new team, and designated Force India with Honda Racing's old 18 and 19 numbers, and Brawn GP getting 20 and 21.
However, Force India wanted to get its former 20 and 21 numbers back because all its pre-season promotional material and merchandise had been based around them.
With Brawn GP not objecting to sacrificing those numbers, Force India now has 20/21, while Brawn GP will get 22 and 23. There will be no car numbers 18 and 19.

20 Adrian SUTIL (D) FORCE INDIA F1 TEAM FORCE INDIA MERCEDES
21 Giancarlo FISICHELLA (I) FORCE INDIA F1 TEAM FORCE INDIA MERCEDES

22 Jenson BUTTON (GB) BRAWN GP FORMULA ONE TEAM BRAWN MERCEDES
23 Rubens BARRICHELLO (BR) BRAWN GP FORMULA ONE TEAM BRAWN MERCEDES

Garry Walker
26th March 2009, 15:56
If someone wanted to shoot Bernie, I would not put a hand to stop him.

Knock-on
26th March 2009, 16:00
If someone wanted to shoot Bernie, I would not put a hand to stop him.

Well it wouldn't do much good if you did.

After all, you would have to be pointed down to hit the little bugger

jens
26th March 2009, 16:07
Numbers 22 and 23 aren't too bad, McLaren was running with them last year and successfully! Maybe Brawn GP can replicate the same fate. :p :

UltimateDanGTR
26th March 2009, 16:34
ah, once again, Bernie at his best!

emporer_k
26th March 2009, 18:28
OK, so now Force India (quite rightly, IMO) have stepped in and said the last minute change is out of order since they'd already created promotional info etc. around using numbers 20 and 21. So instead of just being sensible and putting it back to how it was, they've given Brawn 22 and 23! You do get the feeling someone is going out of their way to put them in their place... :s


If the teams just kept their numbers like they used to this would not be an issue.

V12
27th March 2009, 00:25
On a lighter note - British driver wearing #22 (both cases as a result of an artificial re-jigging of the order) to be champion two years running? :cool:

Well it's nice to dream...

markabilly
27th March 2009, 01:27
If brawn had a choice, be at tail of pitlane and lower numbers or the place at the table for the cash, he would not be worrying over where the pitbox is....

ArrowsFA1
27th March 2009, 08:22
How much lower can he go?!
You might appreciate this (http://www.autosport.com/gallery/picture_free.php/dir/2009oz2/image/l_426y3016-2) :p :

dj_bytedisaster
27th March 2009, 09:29
In terms of low-lifeness this eclipses even Mosley's Nazi-orgy :S Ecclestone was always bad news, but now he's showing what a dimwitted criminal scumbag he really is. He didn't even feel ashamed to make a public statement about it being a despicable revenge act against Brawn. What a low life - anybody up for blasting a shell through that skull? You have my permission.

Knock-on
27th March 2009, 11:35
Now he is very publically washing every piece of underwear in public with FOTA through his web site.

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2009/3/9062.html

ioan
27th March 2009, 11:49
You might appreciate this (http://www.autosport.com/gallery/picture_free.php/dir/2009oz2/image/l_426y3016-2) :p :

:rotflmao: :up:
Thanks!

UltimateDanGTR
27th March 2009, 18:18
You might appreciate this (http://www.autosport.com/gallery/picture_free.php/dir/2009oz2/image/l_426y3016-2) :p :

permission to die of laughter! :rotflmao: :D

jjanicke
27th March 2009, 20:18
The good news is that Brawn GP might not have to worry about the missing $22M (if that's really the case). Richard Branson has deep pockets and was looking for a way into F1. He's found it with this team, and the midget can go f' himself.

I also read somewhere that Honda was still pumping some $130M into the team.

CNR
28th March 2009, 04:58
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7969435.stm



Brawn GP chief executive Nick Fry said: "Virgin is paying to sponsor the car and it might evolve into more.

V12
28th March 2009, 07:48
You might appreciate this (http://www.autosport.com/gallery/picture_free.php/dir/2009oz2/image/l_426y3016-2) :p :

:D Love it! Makes me almost want to open an ING account if their interest rate hadn't plummetted in the past couple of months!