[IRC] Ypres Westhoek Rally 2009

[RS]

Another video from Duval's test:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV8-bD3SOBc

[Rallytourist]

No, I'm sure it was some 15 to 20 metres away ;) The test was almost Finished this afternoon after the first run of Snijers . Tommeke , What did you do in the ditch in the Corner ???? :mad:
Too Crazy and stupid man :mad: :mad: :mad:

[WRCKE]

Test Francois Duval-Patrick Snijers Today

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSsYDVe6d3g

[Tom206wrc]

Looks like Thierry Neuville impressed people at Kronos and BFGoodrich during his tests, according to http://www.turbomagazine.be/ :)

[RS]

Test Francois Duval-Patrick Snijers Today

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSsYDVe6d3g

That's a great video! They both look fast but Duval in particular looks stunning, on the rev limiter in top gear round some bends!

The Polo sounds a little nicer than it used to now, must have been some engine upgrades this year. Very similar to the Skoda (same base engine)

[Tom206wrc]

Fast Freddy's livery for Ypres :eek: :confused:

http://sport.turbomagazine.be/index.php?pg=news&id=2132

[mousti]

Fast Freddy's livery for Ypres :eek: :confused:

http://sport.turbomagazine.be/index.php?pg=news&id=2132
Yep normally it will be like that :( :rolleyes:

[Cloverleaf]

Fast Freddy's livery for Ypres :eek: :confused:

http://sport.turbomagazine.be/index.php?pg=news&id=2132
Forgive my ignorance. What about this fire breathing lionish-dragonish-eagleish thingy? Is that a part of the flemish culture?

[Mirek]

It was made by children, take it like that ;)

[Mirek]

Another video of Duval and Snijers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZchNV7w2iac

[GTA]

Thanks everybody for the nice pictures and Video's of the test.. :) .. see you all next week... its going to be interesting Rally for sure..

[Sulland]

GTA/Imperatore: Have you started to notice any differences btw the two VAG S2000 cars, and what is Duval saying that have driven both ?
Can the Polo "Learn" anything from the Fabia, or is the same driver as fast with both of them ?

[GTA]

GTA/Imperatore: Have you started to notice any differences btw the two VAG S2000 cars, and what is Duval saying that have driven both ?
Can the Polo "Learn" anything from the Fabia, or is the same driver as fast with both of them ?

We have 2 Top drivers with 2 Good cars, that are both being very well prepared by the same team.
For now its to early to say, but for sure both drivers are in good position for good result in Iepers.

[Sulland]

Best of Luck for the team !

[karlzoro]

i found a video on the net of Neuville testing the BF 207...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZsS2Iq2Mgs
I must say: not bad at all :D

[GigiGalliNo1]

How excitement! :D

[Mirek]

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/8119/hankookcorsa007.jpg

[RS]

Bengue's Corsica is nice!

Onboard from Duval: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTqbtdEegSA

He says after the first test runs that he thought the Punto's engine was better but they made some adjustments which made the car better. I am really surprised at that, because I don't think the Punto's engine is better in any way shape or form! My only guess is that the Punto was running a shorter gearbox which was better for accelleration but not top speed. Or have S2000 weights increased since he drove Punto on Condroz?

[Mirek]

Yes, S2000 got 50 kg more and second one also yes, Fabia has longer gearing than that Punto probably had. Also the first two gears are visibly longer in Fabia in my opinion.

[Rallytourist]

http://s973.photobucket.com/albums/ae212/rallytourist/Recce%20Sauvegarde/

Pictures recce Sauvegarde 16/06

[noel157]

Abarth test:

http://www.agenziauno.it/test/

[HaCo]

Webcam on Ypres market: http://www.restaurant-vivaldi.be/nl/webcam.php
Go have a meal in the restaurant and tell them about the webcam... :)

[HaCo]

Abarth test:

http://www.agenziauno.it/test/

I really hope Casier will do well in the Abarth and Abarth picks him up for some other rally's as well...

[WRCKE]

live from ypres markt

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee320/WRCKE/DSCN3089.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee320/WRCKE/DSCN3086.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee320/WRCKE/DSCN3105.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee320/WRCKE/DSCN3103.jpg
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee320/WRCKE/DSCN3084.jpg

[RS]

Having read several comments of Duval, he does not seem all that impressed with the Fabia yet. But let's see what the stage times are like on Friday, I think he might be hedging his bets, and I hope he might be surprised too...

[52Paddy]

Hello all. I'll join you for this event. Haven't followed the series since round 1, but hopefully I'll see this one tomorrow night. :)

[Mirek]

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/480/afbeelding028x.jpg
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/917/afbeelding030.jpg

[wwbroe]

I've seen this car on he market in Ypres, looks really nice i must say. :D

[Leon]

More photos from the market please :)

[WRCKE]

More photos from the market please :)

movie from the shakedown historics on www.mediarally.be (http://www.mediarally.be)

[Tom206wrc]

Today is shakedown...can't wait for more news :)

[noel157]

What time is the SD on today?

[MartijnS]

Tonight. I think from 19 till 21 hr.

[noel157]

Thanks Martijn. Will you be making a video of it?

[Ondra WRC]

is some reference to the results of today's shakedown?

[MartijnS]

No, we will only be there at saturday.
Shakedown times:

19u-20u30 : First 25 cars
20u30-23u00: Everybody

[Rallye_106]

No, we will only be there at saturday.
Shakedown times:

19u-20u30 : First 25 cars
20u30-23u00: Everybody

These are CET times or GMT? I'm too lazy to check it out. :D

[Kurt L.]

some pics i took from scruteneering

http://foto.zita.be/1647344216

[Tom206wrc]

Wow thanks Kurt ;)

[Luis Pacheco]

What a rallye will be!!!
Have fun guys!

[Mirek]

Shakedown live: http://s01.ypresrally.com/live?indexName=special

[Tom206wrc]

:)

[RS]

]Shakedown live: http://s01.ypresrally.com/live?indexName=special

I guess the top cars are all done now, this is going to be one close rally!

[HaCo]

Guy Wilks had a litle off just in front of where I was standing, nothing bad, just a bit too fast.
Was a nice shakedown, lots of runs by the top drivers, very spectacular because they were attacking...

[noel157]

Guy Wilks had a litle off just in front of where I was standing, nothing bad, just a bit too fast.
Was a nice shakedown, lots of runs by the top drivers, very spectacular because they were attacking...

I know SDs don't mean too much but from what you saw tonight who would be your winner and 2nd and 3rd? (forget about the times).

[Tom206wrc]

Thierry Neuville seemed to have done a very study shakedown, no ??? :confused:

[Kurt L.]

Some of my foto's from the shakedown.

http://foto.zita.be/7646354167

[Integrale]

Yeah, saw Wilks go off too on the same place. Indeed a bit too fast, but better now than during the rally. :)


I know SDs don't mean too much but from what you saw tonight who would be your winner and 2nd and 3rd? (forget about the times).

My bet would be..

1. Loix
2. Kopecky
3. Duval

with Basso, Neuville (impressive!) and Vouilloz as dark horses

[Tom206wrc]

I don't see Basso ahead of Meeke personally :mark:

[J4MIE]

Can someone post times/stages that will be live on Eurosport? Unfortunately I will be away this weekend but will try to get someplace that is showing it :D

Hope everyone that is going really enjoys it, it's looking good so far :up:

[RS]

Can someone post times/stages that will be live on Eurosport? Unfortunately I will be away this weekend but will try to get someplace that is showing it :D


http://www.rallye-info.com/article.asp?sid=0&stid=7939

Times stated are CET.

[RS]

Shakedown video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otSHL5pRhEk

[HaCo]

I know SDs don't mean too much but from what you saw tonight who would be your winner and 2nd and 3rd? (forget about the times).
Very hard to tell, they are all close. Loix and Duval will be fighting for first, some other might be as well as I think some will make mistake and go off. I you see the skoda's, it's nuts: they throw the car a lot but that's something not to do in Ypres with all the ditches (although it's nice to see). With this driving style on my stopwatch they were fastest and at the endm just before leaving, Neuville and Loix did a very agressive pass as well, don't know if there fastest times were realised then.
Let's all hope that spectacular driving brings fast times and then we might see a very spectacular rally!


Btw Meeke had I puncture on his first real run (at least that is what we could see), but apparantly it was worse...
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/5686/afbeelding524.jpg
http://autosportforum.be/showpost.php?p=137739&postcount=2845

[wwbroe]

Shakedown was very nice to see, and i must agree with HACO, i also think that drivers like Meeke and Hanninen were cutting to deep. If they continu doing that during the rally, i think it will be hard to not have any puncture or even worse.
If you had a look at the times after first two runs, then the fastest ones were Loix and Kopecky with Duval being 1 sec behind. Also Vouilloz and Neuville did very well. Disappointing times by the two Punto's and also for Snijers in the Polo.
After many runs Duval set equal fastest time as Kopecky and Neuville, very impressive by Neuville, first time in 4x4 and only 21 years old. He might have brillant future in front of him.
We will see during rally, but then you have only one run and you have to be fast right away, so my bet goes to Loix, Kopecky, Vouilloz and Duval. :)

[Moriarty]

Thierry Neuville seemed to have done a very study shakedown, no ??? :confused:

He will dive winners Peugeot with IRC207 plate.
http://autosportforum.be/attachment.php?attachmentid=798&d=1245392080

[noel157]

Very hard to tell, they are all close. Loix and Duval will be fighting for first, some other might be as well as I think some will make mistake and go off. I you see the skoda's, it's nuts: they throw the car a lot but that's something not to do in Ypres with all the ditches (although it's nice to see). With this driving style on my stopwatch they were fastest and at the endm just before leaving, Neuville and Loix did a very agressive pass as well, don't know if there fastest times were realised then.
Let's all hope that spectacular driving brings fast times and then we might see a very spectacular rally!


Btw Meeke had I puncture on his first real run (at least that is what we could see), but apparantly it was worse...
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/5686/afbeelding524.jpg
http://autosportforum.be/showpost.php?p=137739&postcount=2845

Meeke went wide at a corner and broke the wheel and then of course the tyre went.

Meeke's car is a new Kronos car I think?

[Moriarty]

Meeke's car is a new Kronos car I think?

He used it at Monte

[Mirek]

Was it Tanghe who rolled his blue C2 R2 in that city chicane?

[HaCo]

]Was it Tanghe who rolled his blue C2 R2 in that city chicane?
No, it was Lefevre, who normally drives a beamer in belgian rally championship... ;)

[Mirek]

Thanks, here is video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4mZX2UsPII

And another one from shake: http://www.dailymotion.com/search/rally+ypres/video/x9mh93_ypres-rally-2009-shakedown-irc_auto

It's nice to see that drivers used handbrake more than last year :)

[Tom206wrc]

Can't wait for this evening 6.04pm(gmt+2) :bounce:


I'll watch the split times, as they will be available :p :

[J4MIE]

http://www.rallye-info.com/article.asp?sid=0&stid=7939

Times stated are CET.

Thanks :up: Will try and watch first half of SS3 in the airport this evening :s

[Veekaa]

some pics from shakedown

http://rallyephotos.be/fotos2009/bk/gallery/shakeieper/large/0004.JPG

http://rallyephotos.be/fotos2009/bk/gallery/shakeieper/large/0052.JPG

[Rallytourist]

Meeke went wide at a corner and broke the wheel and then of course the tyre went.

Meeke's car is a new Kronos car I think?


Here's a Steward with the wheel and the Tyre . No real damage at the tire or the wheel . Meeke said he didn't toch anything . :p

[noel157]

Another video of SD from MartijnS:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otSHL5pRhEk

[Fri]

and one more video from the shakedown:

http://www.rallysport.hu/images/2009/Video/108-RSHU_Ypres_teszt.htm

[Buzz Lightyear]

Here's a Steward with the wheel and the Tyre . No real damage at the tire or the wheel . Meeke said he didn't toch anything . :p
when did he say that?

[Raven]

Another video of SD from MartijnS:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otSHL5pRhEk
Not from MartijnS, he offers better videos ;-)

[Tom206wrc]

http://s01.ypresrally.com/timingForSplits
http://mmcr.vysledky-rally.cz/rallysport/2009/erc/ypres

;)


Edit: result links don't work anymore on my computer :mark:

[noel157]

Not from MartijnS, he offers better videos ;-)

Ooops.

I should have realized when I saw the sausages on the BBQ.....

Martijn is rallymedia and Dutch, the video is from mediarally and Belgian.

[Tom206wrc]

Start SS1 in two hours :cool:

[J4MIE]

Damn I've missed my pickems again :s

[sal]

Have a clashing family arrangement so with not going to the event hadnt realised that rally was running so late in the day unlike a few years ago when they went to the three day WRC style format. Should be a great atmosphere in the dark but will surely play into the Belgian drivers hands. Hope everyone who's there has a great rally!

[Tom206wrc]

One hour left to go :bounce: :bounce:

[Wim_Impreza]

Damn I've missed my pickems again :s

And that for a moderator. :p I understand you can forget pickems for a WRC rally, but not for a rally which counted for IRC and ERC. ;)

[PLuto]

http://mmcr.vysledky-rally.cz/rallysport/2009/erc/ypres

Results will be ready soon, I was at the museum in Ypres :-)

[PLuto]

Photos from shakedown: http://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/thumbnails.php?album=187

[claudio]

did somebody knows where I can watch the rally on the internet?
some website????

thanks

[Mirek]

Should be here: http://www.rtbf.be/sport-moteur/rallyes/le-rallye-de-ypres-en-direct-video-41291

[claudio]

great Mirek Fric [Cze]

how long to start missing???

[Tom206wrc]

Less than 8 minutes to go before SS1 to start ;)

[Mirek]

how long to start missing???

I think that it should be 19:15 and 23:00 CET.

[claudio]

thanks

[Tom206wrc]

No split yet :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

OK stage running now ;)

[Mirek]

Duval stopped.

[PLuto]

Duval out on SS 1 :(

[Wim_Impreza]

As expected. ;) I find it more a pity for the Fabia and the team than for Duval.

[Mirek]

Duval crashed near the start of stage...

[Tom206wrc]

:s

[RS]

That is a massive disappointment for me, not just as a Skoda fan. I was looking forward to see how Duval was going to do.

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

Solowow stopped as well?

[Mirek]

Solowow finished but +2:38. Pncture or off?

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

Meeke has an amazing time, but Wilks is very slow

[RS]

The Proton seemed about 1s/km off the pace on shakedown too. Interesting it was so fast in WRC Ireland, I wonder what a 207 could have done there?

[Tom206wrc]

Good time from Casier ;)


But can't wait for Vouilloz now :D

[Mirek]

Vouilloz was off with a lot of damage, trying to continue.

Melissa rolled over...

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

Vouilloz seems to be in problems.

[Tom206wrc]

Vouilloz and Kopecky ???? :confused: :confused:

[Mirek]

Kopecký is ok. He is third.

[Karbonyl]

Nico had an off :(

[RS]

This is already turning into a race of attrition, shame that 2 big names Duval and Vouilloz are out of the running.

[Tom206wrc]

They are long to give Tsjoen time :confused:

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

It seems that the timing has stopped?

[Tom206wrc]

No Bengué ??? :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

First results SS2... ;)

[Henkie H.]

Bengue is out.

[Tom206wrc]

Wow I really hope Meeke can hold this pace until the end of rally without mistake :eek: :up:

[Simmi]

Meeke is simply on another level.

[alleskids]

were do you find the results?

[Salist]

Duval accident on SS1..
http://www.ewrc-results.com/results_main.php?event=419&stage=6364&category=&group=&section=

[MartijnS]

Loix very fast at 2nd stage :)

[Tom206wrc]

No more results available now :mad: :mad:

[Jafry]

Photos from Ypres HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=534&startpos=0&fseason=&fcat=&fautor=) and HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=533&startpos=0&fseason=&fcat=&fautor=)

[rallye-sport]

No more results available now :mad: :mad:
EWRC !

[PLuto]

Results are here: http://mmcr.vysledky-rally.cz/rallysport/2009/irc/ypres

[Salist]

What happend Jan?

[Karbonyl]

HERE :) (http://mmcr.vysledky-rally.cz/rallysport/2009/irc/ypres)

[Salist]

EUROSPORT LIVE - 3min yet

[Tom206wrc]

No Donchev, no Fontana in SS2 ??? :confused:

[Salist]

SS3 Lille-Mètropole 1 - 9.78 km LIVE ON EUROSPORT

[Salist]

Hanninen started on SS3.

[Forde-fotos]

The Proton seemed about 1s/km off the pace on shakedown too. Interesting it was so fast in WRC Ireland, I wonder what a 207 could have done there?
No, it's all about the driver ;)

[RS]

No, it's all about the driver ;)

Hehe, but Wilks thinks he is the best!

[anto-t]

anyone have a link to a webstream?

[Moriarty]

anyone have a link to a webstream?

try http://videos.eurosport.com/irc/ypres-w ... ayer.shtml (http://videos.eurosport.com/irc/ypres-westhoek-rally/2009/irc-rallye-d'ypres-day-1-(_vid108038/irc-player.shtml)

[Tom206wrc]

Why are SS1 and 2 stopped(31 after SS1 and 12 after SS2) ??? :confused:

[Salist]

Photo or video from Duval's accident???

[Salist]

Vouilloz leave the front spoiler... :(

[Salist]

on 1st stage...

[Salist]

Kopeczky + 1min. :(

[RS]

Kopeczky + 1min. :(

I think the time is wrong.

[Salist]

Sorry...bad eurosport timing.

[Tom206wrc]

Has Vouilloz crashed again(in SS3) ???? :confused:

[Salist]

I think the time is wrong.

Yes.

[Salist]

Has Vouilloz crashed again(in SS3) ???? :confused:

I think he crashed on SS1.

[Salist]

Neuville's good run...

[Tom206wrc]

Where are Pieter Tsjoen, Brian Lavio and Gilles Schammel on SS3 ??? :confused:

[noel157]

Unoffical standings after SS3 (mostly guess work):

Loix 31.51.4
Meeke + 5.7
Kopecky +13.0
Neuville +26.5
Han + 28.8
Basso +33.8
Casier +37.7
v d Heuvel +48.3
Wilks +1.04.1
Vouilloz +3.08.2

[noel157]

Unofficial guessitmate standings after SS3 version 2.1....


Loix 31.51.4
Meeke + 5.7
Kopecky +12.9
Tsjoen +23.4
Neuville +26.4
Hanninen + 28.8
Basso +33.8
Casier +37.7
v d Heuvel +48.3
Schammel +58.8
Wilks +1.04.1
Vouilloz +3.08.2

[Tom206wrc]

;)


Can't wait for the night loop of the leg now :p :

[ZequeArgentina]

Too many offs in early stages of the rally, reallya Pitty.
ooks like Loix, Meeke and Kopecky are already in one league, with a second group (Tsoken, Neuville, Hanninen, Basso and Casier) not so far. The rest is vey faraway.
Times are too spread in just 3 stags, but nighstages can define much more

[tolis]

What happened in the official timing site????

[Karbonyl]

Totalhypermegacollapse. Like every year :D

[Salist]

Totalhypermegacollapse. Like every year :D

:) :) :) :)

[Tom206wrc]

Start SS4 in less than 30 minutes ;)

I'm positively impressed by Tsjoen for his first outing in the 207 and more again by Neuville for his first outing in a 4WD :eek:

[Tom206wrc]

Alright SS4 should just have started now :)

[Brother John]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jInzHny-Ts4&feature=player_embedded


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[RS]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jInzHny-Ts4&feature=player_embedded


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The off was really fast, but the car got going again quickly. I wonder what was damaged? I am glad the car is not a right off!

[Tom206wrc]

What happened to Brian Lavio(retired) ??? :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

Hänninen and Basso finished ;)

[Karbonyl]

Yes, really lucky off in result for Duval...

[Wasted Talent]

Duval and Melissa out - already my pickems are JUNK!

WT

[Tom206wrc]

SS5 running...

[Karbonyl]

Bengue retired after crash. He didn't slow down enough before cornering and went straight off the road.

[Tom206wrc]

What battle between Hänninen and Basso :)

[Tom206wrc]

And a good time from Meeke again ;)

But Kopecky seems to be a bit faster on the few last stages :mark:

[tolis]

Meeke is really flying again...

[Tom206wrc]

Wilks :confused: :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

Vouilloz is losing much time too :eek:

[Tom206wrc]

Is Tsjoen first split a mistake(he's very fast) ??? :confused:

[prospeed bulgaria]

What's happend with Neuville?

[Forde-fotos]

Hehe, but Wilks thinks he is the best!

Ya the guy has a serious attitude problem !

[noel157]

What's happend with Neuville?

Looks like he didn't finish SS5, anybody know what happened? Crash or mech?

[Tom206wrc]

News please :confused:

[ZequeArgentina]

I do not see anytime after Witman, may be timming system collapsed, or stage stopped before Neuville start (or even after him ,if he had finally crahed)?

[Tom206wrc]

I hope it's only the informatical system that bugs again :rolleyes:

[Tom206wrc]

Strange there's no result neither for the SSS :confused:

[ZequeArgentina]

It also states SS6 as not started yet, but splits started flowing, looks like a crash in the timming system.

[cyr]

LIVE VIDEO ES6

http://www.rtbf.be/chatbox/sport_info/rtbf-chatbox.php?id_coverit=c75e4c9160&teams=Ypres%20Rally&start=2009,05,19,19,15&end=2009,05,20,0,30&TB_iframe=true&height=518&width=919

[RS]

The english Eurosport commentary is very good today.

[Tom206wrc]

Still no news about SS5 ??? :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

Neutralized SS5...what we feared: crash of Neuville ;(

[noel157]

Wilks went off on SS5, front suspension damaged. Did not start SS6.

Picture - http://blog.krismeeke.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/l_1600_1200_D33E82F1-8754-4598-8E7E-4C55A8D78D9A.jpeg

[Tom206wrc]

So first "short" leg over...and already much retirements and some drivers out of fight for the victory :mark:

[Helstar]

Who's Melissa ^^ ?

Bad Duval bad :\

Very nice to see so many different S2000 cars together ... ;)

[Karbonyl]

Melissa is brave girl usually driving Corolla WRC in Belgian champ :)

[Tom206wrc]

Brian Lavio reason of early retirement today was a double puncture :(

[M5]

Is Snijers off qs well ?

[Karbonyl]

Seems so. He had all the day problems with engine, which had highest revs only at 6000 rpm...

[Integrale]

Saw some brave driving today from Loix, Meeke, Kopecky!, Neuville and Wilks (too bad the last two retired). In a league of their own me thinks. Snijers with serious revproblems, Vouilloz started with an off and a bit of damage (see photo), Tsjoen and Hanninen going steady, and the likes of Solowow, Donchev, Fontana, Betti and Lavio learning the typical roads of Ypres. I didn't even see Duval nor Bengue with the Corsa, big dissapointment there. I still find him an extremely fast guy, but this was just an epic fail from François..

Hopefully tomorrow lots of action again on the stages. Hope you guys home are entertained ;) and Ypres can stay an IRC event..

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x24/da_5th_element/asitevouilloz21ckdm.jpg

[N.O.T]

too many top retirementss during the first day, thats a pity but still a good battle for the win.

[Tom206wrc]

Second leg today starts quite late(at the start of afternoon - 12.51) :mark:

[teufel]

It seems to me, that Casier wasn't a great replacement for Alen. Nice surprise the fight of Basso with Hanninen :up:

[HaCo]

It seems to me, that Casier wasn't a great replacement for Alen. Nice surprise the fight of Basso with Hanninen :up:

Are you serious? He was only 3 secs behind Basso, which is an asfalt reference! Casier had some bad luck... fire extensiour went of, a shaft broke on the last stage, pff... pitty for him.

[RS]

Second leg today starts quite late(at the start of afternoon - 12.51) :mark:

Yes, but it doesn't finish till well after 10pm :) Makes a nice change to the 9-5 WRC Rallying!

[RS]

It seems to me, that Casier wasn't a great replacement for Alen. Nice surprise the fight of Basso with Hanninen :up:

Casier had a problem on the last stage, apart from that his pace was good, certainly much better than Alen would have been looking at previous asphalt and Ypres performance.

[Salist]

Photo's from first day?

[HaCo]

Photo's from first day?

Check this thread: http://www.autosportforum.be/showthread.php?t=1351&page=20

[Honza H.]

Kopecký says that he lost some time in SS1 due to Vouilloz who was blocking the road after his accident, then he lost some few more seconds in SS5 due to punctures of Vouilloz and Casier. Otherwise he would be losing approx. 4 seconds only after day 1.

I´m looking for a really close fight in the top 3 today!

[Salist]

Check this thread: http://www.autosportforum.be/showthread.php?t=1351&page=20

Thanks HaCo !!!

[HaCo]

Kopecký says that he lost some time in SS1 due to Vouilloz who was blocking the road after his accident, then he lost some few more seconds in SS5 due to punctures of Vouilloz and Casier. Otherwise he would be losing approx. 4 seconds only after day 1.

I´m looking for a really close fight in the top 3 today!

Kopecky is awesome in his Skoda!!! Hope for: Kopecky - Loix - Meeke.

In the meantime it's raining here (not so far from the stages).

[noel157]

Bex's video report from day one:

http://www.peugeot.co.uk/about-peugeot/sport/rally/peugeot-irc-rally-podcast/

[Mirek]

Starting order (no Duval, Wilks and Bengue):
http://mmcr.vysledky-rally.cz/rallysport/2009/irc/ypres/2etapa.html

[Tom206wrc]

Strange starting order...the ERC drivers first :confused:

[rallye-sport]

Strange starting order...the ERC drivers first :confused:
In IRC, the first 10 in the opposite direction

[Mirek]

It's not general IRC rule.

[rallye-sport]

]It's not general IRC rule.
Only on tarmac ?

[Mirek]

In my opinion there is no such rule existing and moreover Ypres is run as European championship event which is higher FIA level and the rulles must suit it. It's for the first time in ERC this year so I think it's just a case of this particular event (and for Monte Carlo also).

[wwbroe]

]In my opinion there is no such rule existing and moreover Ypres is run as European championship event which is higher FIA level and the rulles must suit it. It's for the first time in ERC this year so I think it's just a case of this particular event (and for Monte Carlo also).

It was asked by Eurosport, and they know it only since yesterday. The demand was made some time ago but decision was taken only yesterday. :D

[Jafry]

Photos from 1st leg HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=534&startpos=0&fseason=&fcat=&fautor=) and HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=533&startpos=0&fseason=&fcat=&fautor=)

[Mirek]

Some crashes...

http://www.autosport.cz/img/fotografie/c_0892aa57796fc98127ab1bf5fb7c1b6a.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/332z2te.jpg
http://i706.photobucket.com/albums/ww63/Renaatv/PICT0266.jpg
http://www.tout-le-rallye.be/forum/images/upload/amaury/img_2987_153.jpg
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x24/da_5th_element/asitevouilloz21ckdm.jpg

[Karbonyl]

The show must go on - SS 7 started right now! :)

[Tom206wrc]

Schammel a little bit faster than Fontana and Betti on first split ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Now Tsjoen a bit faster :p :

[Buzz Lightyear]

Is something up? No Kopecky? He is through now..

[Mirek]

BIIIG Batle for the victory continues in yesterday's way :)

[Tom206wrc]

Can you believe Meeke could beat Loix here and win the event ???? :eek:


2s between them after SS7 ;)

[alleskids]

Vouilloz out? big blow for his title defence (although he was already far behind. no luck for him in Belgium)

[hari]

Voilloz out? big blow for his title defence (although he was already far behind. no luck for him in Belgium)

Vouilloz finished SS7 +2.8 sec.

[Wim_Impreza]

Franz Wittmann jun. lost quite a lot in SS7. Stéphane Lhonnay past him in Group N.

[Mirek]

Wittman had 2 offs. Van den Heuvel false start.

Melissa didn't start today (turbo) :(

[hari]

Franz Wittmann jun. lost quite a lot in SS7. Stéphane Lhonnay past him in Group N.

Wittmann was twice out of the road

[Allyc85]

Brilliant battle so far, cant wait for the live coverage :D :D

[PLuto]

Photos of Tom Buyse from day one: http://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/thumbnails.php?album=188

http://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/albums/userpics/10002/thumb_day1_33.jpghttp://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/albums/userpics/10002/thumb_day1_10.jpghttp://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/albums/userpics/10002/thumb_day1_12.jpghttp://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/albums/userpics/10002/thumb_day1_22.jpg

[PLuto]

Snijers didnt start into SS 7 - powersteering and fire

[Mirek]

Absolutely disasterous rally for RGRS...

[Tom206wrc]

Vouilloz in SS8 ???? :confused:

[noel157]

Is Vysledky site down?

[Mirek]

No, it works well: http://mmcr.vysledky-rally.cz/rallysport/2009/irc/ypres/9all.php

Vouilloz crashed :(

[Karbonyl]

No :) (http://mmcr.vysledky-rally.cz/rallysport/2009/irc/ypres/9all.php)

[Tom206wrc]

Wittmann also out in SS9 :confused:

[Mirek]

Wittman broke driveshaft when driving on puncture (no spare tyre left after previous puncture from SS7).

[noel157]

]No, it works well: http://mmcr.vysledky-rally.cz/rallysport/2009/irc/ypres/9all.php

Vouilloz crashed :(

Thanks Guys.

[Tom206wrc]

The shortest(SS10=7.2km) and the longest(SS11=31km)stage are running in a bit more than 30 minutes now ;)

[Mirek]

There is a rumour that some motorcyclist crashed into Kopecký's car on the road section. Hope everything is ok...

Live stream: http://www.rtbf.be/sport/sport-moteur/rallyes/le-rallye-dypres-en-direct-video-ce-samedi-42151

[RS]

]There is a rumour that some motorcyclist crashed into Kopecký's car on the road section. Hope everything is ok...

Live stream: http://www.rtbf.be/sport/sport-moteur/rallyes/le-rallye-dypres-en-direct-video-ce-samedi-42151

Yes, it's on the IRC site, everything ok appparantly.

[Mirek]

Result:
http://forum.autosport.cz/download/file.php?id=282&t=1

[RS]

Hanninen has had the legs on Basso today, good performance by him, but I wonder whether this shows more the speed difference in the Fabia vs. Punto than the drivers?

[N.O.T]

What a battle for 1st !!! Meeke in his first attempt of ypres sure desrves something better.

[Helstar]

Hanninen has had the legs on Basso today, good performance by him, but I wonder whether this shows more the speed difference in the Fabia vs. Punto than the drivers?
I think the cars are almost equal, it's just the drivers (Hanninen better).

[RS]

I think the cars are almost equal, it's just the drivers (Hanninen better).

On tarmac?

[RS]

Amazingly close times of the top 3 drivers over 31km!

[Mirek]

I think the cars are almost equal, it's just the drivers (Hanninen better).

I don't agree. It's only 5th time for Juho on tarmac in his life and 3rd time on dry. Basso is very fast tarmac driver but Punto is now slower than Puegeot and Skoda unfortunately.

[Helstar]

On tarmac?
Basso is not that good IMHO

Never achieved something remarkable in his career.


]I don't agree. It's only 5th time for Juho on tarmac in his life and 3rd time on dry. Basso is very fast tarmac driver but Punto is now slower than Puegeot and Skoda unfortunately.
Look at Targa Florio, Rossetti (Punto) beated Travaglia (Skoda) by ample margin.

[Tom206wrc]

Meeke 0.2s late on Loix after SS11 :eek:

[RS]

I agree with Mirek, the Punto has been off the pace all year, no matter who has driven it.

Basso won a few events last year on tarmac, and the tarmac drivers in IRC are very fast.

[RS]

Basso is not that good IMHO

Never achieved something remarkable in his career.


Look at Targa Florio, Rossetti (Punto) beated Travaglia (Skoda) by ample margin.

That was Travaglias first time in the Skoda, and anyhow I think Rossetti is quite a lot faster than Travaglia on tarmac.

[Sulland]

Why dont FIA see this, and adopt this class as WRC, instead of making something new again, and we might loose a lot of manufacturers again.

Or maybe it is good, so we at least keep one exiting series !

[Mirek]

Basso is not that good IMHO

Never achieved something remarkable in his career.


Look at Targa Florio, Rossetti (Punto) beated Travaglia (Skoda) by ample margin.

Heh... Travaglia was driving new car for him, without setup and without test. He crashed early on shakedown and started making setup for his car after SS3. They also didn't have enough spare parts and the car was repaired only provisionaly. At the last section he had oil leaking from dampers. That can't be compared in any way.

Basso is european champion, multiple italian champion, winner of several IRC rallys (Sanremo, Asturias, Ypres for example) and was able to fight for IRC title last year until the last rally. Have You followed IRC before?

Punto is slower, unfortunately it's fact. Almost any rally result in the world is a good proof. One win for Rossetti changes nothing on dozens of other results...

I also agree with RS that Rossetti is faster than Travaglia. Basso and Rossetti defeated Travaglia in almost every rally in last couple of years whey they were starting often with same cars.

[Tom206wrc]

Bets are open, who between Loix, Meeke, and even Kopecky will win the rally after the 5 last stages this evening ???? :D :D

[Brother John]

Her the OFF from Duval! Realy stuppid.

http://www.rtbf.be/sport/sport-moteur/rallyes/le-rallye-dypres-en-direct-video-ce-samedi-42151

[RS]

Her the OFF from Duval! Realy stuppid.

http://www.rtbf.be/sport/sport-moteur/rallyes/le-rallye-dypres-en-direct-video-ce-samedi-42151

Apparantly he was on hard tyres and wanted the medium compound, but no excuse. I still don't understand why he didn't go further though, did he get stuck in the ditch for too long or was the car damaged?

[Helstar]

]
Basso is european champion, multiple italian champion, winner of several IRC rallys (Sanremo, Asturias, Ypres for example) and was able to fight for IRC title last year until the last rally.


Ok I know he is very consistent, but I don't have a high reputation of him anyway, disappointed me too many times. He is not a "winner" enough ...

With same possibility, a lot of other italian drivers would have won a lot more.

For me Punto and Fabia are similar :P in IRC we had Rossetti at Monte to see real car potential but he crashed in SS1...

Just by curiosity, how do you rate Pug207 compared to Fabia then ?

[Mirek]

That's hard to say. My opinion is that Pug has stronger engine but Fabia very good suspension with great Reiger dampers, also traction on gravel. Pug seems to be much harder to me. I think that the more rough and bumpy surface, the better for Fabia and vice versa. But that's realy only my opinion ;)

I think that Abarth has weaker engine even visibly for spectator despite it usualy uses short gearbox unlike Peugeot and Škoda.

[tolis]

I think that the Fabia is much better than the Punto. Kopecky and Hanninen are in front of tarmac's expert, Basso. But 207 is IMO the best S2000 nowadays.

[Helstar]

The funny fact is that they (Abarth) develop the car/engine since years while Fabia is new... =)

[ZequeArgentina]

Kopecky has always been very stroong ontarmac, even in WRC with the Fabia vs. others.

[RS]

I think the Fabia and 207 are very close, despite the fact they seem to have quite different characters.

But as Mirek says, you can see quite visibly the Punto has a much weaker engine, particularly on low down torque (where I think the Fabia might be better than the 207 even)

[Tom206wrc]

SS12 is running :)