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Salist
4th January 2009, 16:57
European Rallycross Championship 2009 thread

Salist
4th January 2009, 16:58
Official website link:
http://www.erc24.com/

Salist
4th January 2009, 16:58
Some new informations:
http://www.rallycross.com/

Salist
4th January 2009, 17:00
Pinomaki's new car in 2009

http://kepfeltoltes.hu/thumb/090104/pinomaki1_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg (http://kepfeltoltes.hu/view/090104/pinomaki1_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg)

http://kepfeltoltes.hu/thumb/090104/pinomaki2_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg (http://kepfeltoltes.hu/view/090104/pinomaki2_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg)

http://kepfeltoltes.hu/thumb/090104/pinomaki3_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg (http://kepfeltoltes.hu/view/090104/pinomaki3_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg)

Iskald
7th January 2009, 13:25
The FIA calender of the European championship 2009 is - in my opinion - a scandal. Norway has since 1980 been one of the sporting cornerstones of this championship, with numerous winners and champions and hundreds of competitors taking part in events. Together with Sweden, Norway has been the most successful country, and we have had a European championship round unbroken since 1980. Suddenly we are kicked out of the championship, despite delivering more participating drivers into the championship in 2008 than any other nation. The FIA Offroad Commisssion, responsible for kicking Norway out in the cold, is led by a selfproclaimed "dictator" from Belgium, a nation that represents only a coouple of active drivers supporting the championship.

Norways ERC-round at the Momarken track has admittedly not been the greatest of successes during the last three years, and has also lacked in organisational skills. But Norway hasn`t been alone in delivering dodgy events, and there is always room for improvement. To kick out the strongest nation from the calender is in any case a scandalous decision from FIA.

Salist
7th January 2009, 16:23
This means the 2009 calendar was confirmed as a ten-event calendar, looking as follows:

12.04.-13.04. - Lydden Hill Race Circuit - Wootton - England (*)
02.05.-03.05. - Pista Automóvel de Montalegre - Montalegre - Portugal
09.05.-10.05. - Circuit des Ducs - Essay - France
30.05.-31.05. - Nyirádi Motorsport Centrum - Nyirád - Hungary
06.06.-07.06. - Wachauring - Melk - Austria
04.07.-05.07. - Höljesbanan - Höljes - Sweden
08.08.-09.08. - Duivelsbergcircuit - Maasmechelen - Belgium
15.08.-16.08. - Estering - Buxtehude - Germany
05.09.-06.09. - Tor Słomczyn - Słomczyn - Poland
12.09.-13.09. - Autodrom Česká Lípa - Sosnová - Czech Republic

(*) pending circuit homologation!

sal
7th January 2009, 16:31
Trusting that Lydden gets approved I'll be off down this year. Havent been to a Euro round since Schanche and Gollop were locking horns in the RS200 and Metro 6R4 in the early 90s!

Wim_Impreza
8th January 2009, 11:32
Yes, it is a scandal that there isn't Norway in the calendar but also the Netherlands. I was going in the past years to the ERC events in the Netherlands and Belgium. For me, the atmosphere, the people, the entry list and off course the girls ( :p )... are much better in the Netherlands than in Belgium.

Iskald
8th January 2009, 13:55
Yes, it is a scandal that there isn't Norway in the calendar but also the Netherlands. I was going in the past years to the ERC events in the Netherlands and Belgium. For me, the atmosphere, the people, the entry list and off course the girls ( :p )... are much better in the Netherlands than in Belgium.

Agreed. The Eurocirquit at Valkenswaard har been staging more ERC-events than any other track, I was there first time in 1979. I don`t know the reason for kicking out this race, was it the Bermingrud accident and allegations that the track was unsafe?

Koppomsbo
8th January 2009, 14:46
Norways ERC-round at the Momarken track has admittedly not been the greatest of successes during the last three years, and has also lacked in organisational skills.

no, it have a scandal race in the compititors eyes for three years and ive been waiting for FIA to take it away from the calender. Hope the ERC never return to Momarken.

But i agree that there should be an ERC event in norway , just dont in momarken

Wim_Impreza
9th January 2009, 07:34
Agreed. The Eurocirquit at Valkenswaard har been staging more ERC-events than any other track, I was there first time in 1979. I don`t know the reason for kicking out this race, was it the Bermingrud accident and allegations that the track was unsafe?

Yes, it was due to the Bermingrud accident. A lot of drivers had lot of critic on the track, that it is too fast too. The ERC event from 2008 was unfortunately an absolute 'crashday' and the drivers didn't take part to the A-final. Especially Kenneth Hansen and Jean-Luc Pailler were full of critic, they don't mention about their victories in the past in Valkenswaard and said only bad things about the track.

Iskald
9th January 2009, 10:12
Yes, it was due to the Bermingrud accident. A lot of drivers had lot of critic on the track, that it is too fast too. The ERC event from 2008 was unfortunately an absolute 'crashday' and the drivers didn't take part to the A-final. Especially Kenneth Hansen and Jean-Luc Pailler were full of critic, they don't mention about their victories in the past in Valkenswaard and said only bad things about the track.

Don`t impress me much...They were driving the track for two whole days - practice and qualification rounds - and then suddenly after the Bermingrud accident (admittedly serious) the track becomes too dangerous.

Most of todays drivers has taken part in the sport in a couple of decades. Pailler, Hansen, Hunsbedt and others were active in ERC already during the 80`s. At that time there were some really dangerous tracks, especially when it came to spectator safety. I remember several incidents were cars ended up among spectators, for the most part luckily without serious consequenses but also a couple of very grave cases (five people getting killed in France - if I`m remember correctly). You never heard drivers complain about safety then - even when it was obvious that if they were unlucky they could very well end up killing spectators.

Nikey
9th January 2009, 12:31
Don`t impress me much...They were driving the track for two whole days - practice and qualification rounds - and then suddenly after the Bermingrud accident (admittedly serious) the track becomes too dangerous.


Okay, I just can't stay silent anymore. If I recall correctly there were 3 drivers delivered to hospital during that weekend. And if there hadn't been, would you really send drivers there again after case-Bermingrud? The track was clearly dangerous! I say let them improve safety for 2 years and perhaps then add Netherlands back to calendar if they are willing to improve.

Wim_Impreza
9th January 2009, 16:58
Okay, I just can't stay silent anymore. If I recall correctly there were 3 drivers delivered to hospital during that weekend. And if there hadn't been, would you really send drivers there again after case-Bermingrud? The track was clearly dangerous! I say let them improve safety for 2 years and perhaps then add Netherlands back to calendar if they are willing to improve.

Please say me then why the drivers were always in Valkenswaard in such a long time and they had never that much critic about safety.

Nikey
9th January 2009, 17:40
Please say me then why the drivers were always in Valkenswaard in such a long time and they had never that much critic about safety.

I guess they didn't quite understand how dangerous it really was until this and there were points on the line. J-L. Pailler said something like it's been very dangerous for many years (he's english is not the best I've heard so there is a small chance of misinterpretion) so I take it that this was the final straw.

Iskald
12th January 2009, 20:00
[quote="Nikey"]I guess they didn't quite understand how dangerous it really was until this and there were points on the line.QUOTE]

Must be because they`re so old. Takes longer time to understand things then...

Funny thing is that none of the drivers protested or mentioned safety when a firemarshal was nearly run over in Sweden - and also the episode with the norwegian BMW driver being hurt in the ERA Cup race. Nobody stopped racing then.

Don`t misunderstand me. I do advocate safety in all kinds of motorsport. But to race a whole weekend - as they did in Valkenswaard - and then deem the track unsafe after an accident in one of the last finals, that seem to me to be overreacting.

Salist
13th April 2009, 07:55
Andreas Eriksson's new car in 2009

http://kepfeltoltes.hu/thumb/090413/2009-04-13_085511_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg (http://kepfeltoltes.hu/view/090413/2009-04-13_085511_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg)


http://kepfeltoltes.hu/thumb/090413/2009-04-13_085525_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg (http://kepfeltoltes.hu/view/090413/2009-04-13_085525_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg)

Salist
13th April 2009, 08:00
Season 2009 started...

1st round: LYDDEN HILL RACE CIRCUIT (GB)

Official site: http://www.lyddenhill.co.uk

Salist
27th April 2009, 09:52
2nd round: PORTUGAL - CIRCUITO DE MONTALEGRE

Official site: http://www.cavr.pt/
Entry list: http://www.cavr.pt/pistas/montalegre/Europeu_2009/Lista_Inscritos2009.pdf

Iskald
28th April 2009, 12:16
Season 2009 started...

1st round: LYDDEN HILL RACE CIRCUIT (GB)

Official site: http://www.lyddenhill.co.uk

OK race and organisation, and the cirquit has much improved since last time the ERC-circus was there. But why did they drop the podium? It`s the first ERC-race I have been attending (and I have been to a few...) where they didn`t have a podium celebration. Prizegiving was instead a crowded and very informal affair inside a sponsortent, not worthy of a FIA championship race at all IMO.

Highlight of the day; 17 year old Mats Lysen from Norway finishing as runner-up in Div 1A. Historically he is the youngest ever driver to secure a podium place in a ERC-round - was already 3rd in Sweden last year, only 16 years old. Mats Lysen is IMO the shining star on the rallycross scene, a real supertalent and future champion.

Salist
3rd May 2009, 06:54
2nd round: PORTUGAL - CIRCUITO DE MONTALEGRE

Results official timed practice:

Division 1:
1. Sverre Isachsen (N)
2. Andréas Eriksson (S)
3. Michael Jernberg (S)
4. Olivier Anne (F)
5. Ludvig Hunsbedt (N)
6. Kenneth Hansen (S)
7. Ole Kristian Nřttveit (N)
8. Jean-Luc Pailler (F)
9. Jussi Pinomäki (FIN)
10. Guttorm Lindefjell (N)
11. Per Eklund (S)
12. Ruben Tabaio (P)
13. Frode Holte (N)
14. Kevin Procter (GB)
15. René Münnich (D)
16. Pedro Matos (P)
17. Joaquim Santos (P)
18. Santiago Ares (E)
19. Celmo Guicho (P)
-. George Tracey (IRL)

Division 1A:
1. Olivier Bossard (F)
2. Mats Lysen (N)
3. Johan Larsson (S)
4. Zdeněk Čermák (CZ)
5. Timur Timerzyanov (RUS)
6. David Johansson (S)
7. Eduard Leganov (RUS)
8. Václav Veverka (CZ)
9. Andy Martin (B)
10. Ildar Rakhmatullin (RUS)
11. Pavel Vimmer (CZ)
12. Jaroslav Kalný (CZ)
13. Ondřej Smetana (CZ)
14. Ulrik Linnemann (DK)
15. Mandie August (D)
-. Stanislav Šusta (CZ)
-. Alexandre Anne (F)
-. José Polónio (P)

Division 2:
1. Jos Sterkens (B)
2. Knut Ove Břrseth (N)
3. Jouko Kallio (FIN)
4. Guino Kenis (B)
5. Roman Častoral (CZ)
6. Patrick Mertens (B)
7. Josef Iro (CZ)

Salist
24th May 2009, 17:15
Next Round - HUNGARY Nyirad

Location: Nyirad

GPS
N: 46°58'10.65"
E: 17°25'19.18"

Official website:
http://www.nymc.eu/

Salist
24th May 2009, 17:18
Entry list here:
http://www.nymc.eu/index.php?hir_id=164

Division 1:
30 cars

Division 1A:
31 cars

Division 2:
10 cars

Salist
24th May 2009, 17:22
Here is a short promo video:
http://www.rallycross.hu/erc_hungary2009.html

Salist
4th June 2009, 12:50
Next Round: WACHAURING MELK | 05.06.2009 - 07.06.2009

Official website:
http://www.rx-melk.at

Micke_VOC
7th June 2009, 09:29
Next Round: WACHAURING MELK | 05.06.2009 - 07.06.2009

Official website:
http://www.rx-melk.at

http://www.rallycross.hu/massive_crash_in_melk.html

Really scary crash )=

Mirek
7th June 2009, 20:36
I heard that Rene Munich suffered a serious injury in the crash. He has broken two vertebras.

Salist
8th June 2009, 17:47
]I heard that Rene Munich suffered a serious injury in the crash. He has broken two vertebras.

Here are my pictures from this accident:
http://drc.racing.hu/foto/2009/06_melk/ekpimu_crash1.jpg (http://drc.racing.hu/foto/2009/06_melk/ekpimu_crash1.jpg)

Salist
8th June 2009, 18:00
Davis Johansson's accident in pictures...

http://drc.racing.hu/foto/2009/06_melk/DJ_crash.jpg (http://www.rallyfanatic.hu/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2703&mode=&order=0&thold=0)

Salist
8th June 2009, 18:17
Johansson's six rolls on the final! VIDEO
http://www.rallycross.hu/johannson_crash_melk.html

Salist
8th June 2009, 20:24
Moments of ERC Melk 2009 - Austria, my photos of Saturday
http://www.rallyfanatic.hu/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2705&mode=&order=0&thold=0

Click here: "kattintsatok ide a fotók megtekintéshez"

03dublinwrx
8th June 2009, 22:30
More Video footage of the Huge Crash at Melk. The organisers have a lot of questions to answer...

http://www.motorsportmad.com/view/7470/horror-crash-european-rallycross-austria-june-6th-2009

Salist
9th June 2009, 18:51
Moments of ERC Melk 2009 - Austria, my photos of Sunday
http://www.rallyfanatic.hu/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2712&mode=&order=0&thold=0

Click here: "kattintsatok ide a fotók megtekintéshez"

MJW
9th June 2009, 22:11
More Video footage of the Huge Crash at Melk. The organisers have a lot of questions to answer...

http://www.motorsportmad.com/view/7470/horror-crash-european-rallycross-austria-june-6th-2009
Where were the waved yellow flags?! or even red flag, a whole lap had gone by. As you said someone really messed up in the marshalling / organisation.

COD
10th June 2009, 12:18
Where were the waved yellow flags?! or even red flag, a whole lap had gone by. As you said someone really messed up in the marshalling / organisation.

The waved yellow flag can easily been seen on that video (as in the other from that same accident). So the blame is mainly the both drivers that hit other cars. Of course what can not be seen from that video is how much the dust effects the drivers ability to see the flag...

WRC1
10th June 2009, 17:05
my pictures from sunday

http://www.rallyepics.at/bilder/rallye2009/16rallycrossmelk/


reg

wrc1

Robinho
15th June 2009, 20:53
had just seen the crash on TV for David Johansson and was trying to find some info that he was ok when i came accross the other incident - does anyone know how David Johansson and Pinomaki are after their crashes?

the big collision was scary, with a car stranded on the racing line on the gravel part of the circuit i think they should have red flagged straight away - the lead car only just missed him, the guys in the dust stood no chance, even if they probably should have eased off more for the waved yellows

Salist
27th June 2009, 19:10
Tragedy...

"We are sad to report the death of Finnskoga Motorklubb member Andreas Adolfsson.
Son of chief paddock marshal at Höljes, Anders Adolfsson, and the nephew of FMK’s long standing former chairman Sven-Erik, 17-years-old Andreas died when his car was in collision with an elk during Sweden’s celebtrated 'Midsommar-Natten' [Midsummer’s Night] on June 21."

Source: http://www.erc24.com

Salist
5th August 2009, 12:25
Former FIA World Rally Championship driver François Duval from Belgium was confirmed late tonight as participant in the seventh round of the 2009 FIA European Rallycross Championship at Maasmechelen, Belgium. The winner of the 2005 Rally Australia teams up with Koen Pauwels and will make use of an identical Ford Focus prepared by Pauwels Motorsport.

Source: http://rallycross.de

Salist
5th August 2009, 12:27
Duval's rallycross car photo: http://fduval.com/images/stories/news/focus-gordon.jpg

Wim_Impreza
8th August 2009, 13:14
I will be there tomorrow. :)

Mirek
14th August 2009, 15:18
Henning Solberg will start in Czech round, Sosnova, 12-13th September.

Wim_Impreza
2nd September 2009, 09:29
Impressive entry lists for Sosnová: http://www.rallycross-sosnova.cz/data_rs/entry-list-sosnova-09.pdf

Is Jan Černý (#153) the rallydriver in Division 1A? Probably Mirek can answer this question?

Mirek
2nd September 2009, 09:45
Yes, he was driving rallycross before he was 18 years old ;)

Wim_Impreza
2nd September 2009, 09:50
Thank you for the fast answer. :)

Salist
3rd September 2009, 18:34
40 Division1 cars...WoW. :)
One week and we going to Sosnova. :)

Salist
6th September 2009, 16:04
Andreas Eriksson, Mats Lysen and Guino Kenis win in Slomczyn!

Andreas Eriksson won the competition in division 1 at the 9 round of the 2009 ERC in Poland. The all-Swedish podium was completed by Michael Jernberg and Kenneth Hansen. Guino Kenis won division 2, and the newly crowned European Champion, Mats Lysen, proved his worth winning division 1A.

Mirek
8th September 2009, 20:42
Paasonen probably won't start in Sosnová.

Salist
14th September 2009, 18:25
Sverre Isachsen the champion in Division 1 in this year...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctxq37VYK1E

Salist
17th September 2009, 10:33
Here are my Saturday photos from Sosnova.
http://www.rallyfanatic.hu/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=3552&mode=&order=0&thold=0

Click on the Saturday pictures.

Iskald
23rd September 2009, 09:02
Andreas Eriksson, Mats Lysen and Guino Kenis win in Slomczyn!

Andreas Eriksson won the competition in division 1 at the 9 round of the 2009 ERC in Poland. The all-Swedish podium was completed by Michael Jernberg and Kenneth Hansen. Guino Kenis won division 2, and the newly crowned European Champion, Mats Lysen, proved his worth winning division 1A.

At 17 years of age Mats Lysen is the youngest ever European Rallycross Champion. Coming saturday he will be the youngest ever Div. 1 Supercar driver, as the Norwegian ASN has granted Mats a dispensation from the rules to drive Div. 1 i the Rallycross Norden event at the Lyngĺs track in Norway (he is still only 17 years). Mats will be driving the Ford Focus from Ole Kr. Nřttveit. he has already tested the car, and informed sources tell that he had very few problems adapting to 4WD and 550 hp. He will definitely not be out of his depth on saturday.

schanche
3rd October 2009, 19:10
Joined at last! looking forward to veiwing and posting comments on here followed Rallycross in the UK and Europe for years nothing can compete with it :D .Lysen is a Future Div 1 Champion so cool and calm wise head on young shoulders look forward to 2010 and jernberg lifting the title.
If anyone is Interested visit my utube site for awesom vids from the past see below.. :p

schanche
14th October 2009, 20:23
http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/images/icons/icon45.gif Master Class!
Well what can I say had a Fantastic day down at Lydden Hill courtesy of Peter Gwynne and Co and the Doran family made very welcome at the Rallycross Master Class day! With the added bonus of Steve Hill and Andrew Jordan and ??? as Mentors. At one point we had Andrew and Pat discussing there best race together Steve saying how much he enjoyed the move he made into rallycross Pat describing his most enjoyable Race win in Rallycross and giving us a talk in how he got Started in Rallycross and discussing the finer points of getting started in Rallycross as a newbie. Being my first time driving on track I was put into the novice group starting off in the Nissan Micra Fanatstic little carhttp://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k99/schanche/RX%20Day/th_Lydd11oct3.jpg (http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k99/schanche/RX%20Day/Lydd11oct3.jpg)
Seemed like I was going really fast although my youngest said I lost the race thanks for that wasn’t even racing.Chessens drift is wide and so long! Bloody steep going up too the hair pin and so fast coming back down and breaking to take the right hander onto the gravel was brilliant and collecting it all up again to go through the chicane and then accelerating down to chessons Great!.Have to apologise to my Mentor not only have I forgotten his name but I also had a moment going into chessons which he just warned me about? A little too fast!! and I had to gather up thankfully I did. Had two runs in the Micra,
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k99/schanche/RX%20Day/th_Lydd11oct4.jpg (http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k99/schanche/RX%20Day/Lydd11oct4.jpg) And then my Third run was in the Swift in the damp Left hand drive as well?so much more responsive than the Micra and you could feel a lot more through the suspension and it just keeps pulling and pulling( Sounds like I know what I’m on about?)
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k99/schanche/RX%20Day/th_Lydd11oct.jpg (http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k99/schanche/RX%20Day/Lydd11oct.jpg) But it was a lot more drivable than the Micra!.
Brilliant day experiencing rallycross for the first time well worth the money! made all the more enjoyable by the totally mad Plastic Paddy as the Guru calls him.The Fiesta went sick sadly but did a few runs earlier in the day.


(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k99/schanche/RX%20Day/Lydd11oct2.jpg) http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k99/schanche/RX%20Day/th_Lydd11oct1.jpg (http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k99/schanche/RX%20Day/Lydd11oct1.jpg)

schanche
14th October 2009, 20:26
2010 European Rallycross Championship
30.04-02.05.10 Portugal, Montalegre
07-09.05.10 France, Kerlabo-Cohiniac
29-31.05.10 Great Britain, Lydden Hill
04-06.06.10 Hungary, Nyirad
02-04.07.10 Sweden, Höljes
09-11.07.10 Finland, Kouvola
06-08.08.10 Belgium, Maasmechelen
13-15.08.10 Germany, Buxtehude
10-12.09.10 Poland, Slomczyn
17-19.09.10 Czech Republic, Sosnova

Provisional dates to be confirmed by end of the month!
looking good though :D

Wim_Impreza
14th October 2009, 21:30
Strange, all the champions this year were from Norway and again there isn't a round in Norway. :( I really don't understand why Portugal is in the calendar.

Sulland
15th October 2009, 07:35
How many Portugese RC drivers are in ERC ?

Salist
15th October 2009, 09:04
0 !!!!

Lousada
15th October 2009, 09:28
How many Portugese RC drivers are in ERC ?

How many fulltime Polish, Hungarian or Austrian drivers are in the ERC? Or French, British, German, Finnish drivers for that matter.
Portugal is not nearly the worst track nor the worst organization nor poor in spectators. I can think of a few other rounds that should be dropped before Portugal.
The big distance is not a good reason against it. For anybody below the Elbe Montalegre is not that much farther then Trondheim or Kouvola.

All in all the calendar is pretty ***. If I want to do the ERC by car I have to travel 15000km!!! From Kouvola to my home is 2070km alone!! I live in NL so right in the middle of the ERC.

Wim_Impreza
15th October 2009, 09:46
How many fulltime Polish, Hungarian or Austrian drivers are in the ERC? Or French, British, German, Finnish drivers for that matter.
Portugal is not nearly the worst track nor the worst organization nor poor in spectators. I can think of a few other rounds that should be dropped before Portugal.
The big distance is not a good reason against it. For anybody below the Elbe Montalegre is not that much farther then Trondheim or Kouvola.

All in all the calendar is pretty ***. If I want to do the ERC by car I have to travel 15000km!!! From Kouvola to my home is 2070km alone!! I live in NL so right in the middle of the ERC.

The problem that we have is that there is not even 1 Portuguese driver that is racing in another ERC round than Portugal. This is the reason why I don't understand that Portugal is again in the calendar. All the other countries that you named, have one or more drivers that drive the full championship expect Hungary. Some Hungarian drivers did all the rounds in the past.

Lousada
15th October 2009, 22:42
The problem that we have is that there is not even 1 Portuguese driver that is racing in another ERC round than Portugal. This is the reason why I don't understand that Portugal is again in the calendar. All the other countries that you named, have one or more drivers that drive the full championship expect Hungary. Some Hungarian drivers did all the rounds in the past.

That is just not true. 90% of the support comes from 4 countries, Sweden, Norway, Belgium and Czech Republic. For the rest it's a few isolated hobbyists from all the other countries. Not that this discussion matters because the amount of drivers is obviously not a criterium for selecting an ERC round.

But the worst thing is there will be at least 9 tracks with a jokerlap. That is 9 too many :mad:

Salist
17th October 2009, 14:01
The Hungarian race was in 2008 the year competition! Drivers also prefer the way it is for the 2010 calendar is.For Norway would even think of a race. Personally, I do not oppose the Portuguese race and would not go to see once, but unfortunately very far from me.

Salist
17th October 2009, 14:29
The problem that we have is that there is not even 1 Portuguese driver that is racing in another ERC round than Portugal. This is the reason why I don't understand that Portugal is again in the calendar. All the other countries that you named, have one or more drivers that drive the full championship expect Hungary. Some Hungarian drivers did all the rounds in the past.



The year's most successful rallycross settlement of the FIA European Championship Off-Road Evaluation Committee: 1 Höljes (Sweden): 141.7 points, 2 Nyirád (Hungary) 131.9 pts, 3 Maasmechelen (Belgium): 125.1 pts.

The Championship race of the year's best-rallycross drivers: 1 Höljes (Sweden): 81.8 points, 2 Lydd Hill (England): 79 pts, 3 Nyirád (Hungary): 75.6 pts, 4 Maasmechelen (Belgium): 50 pts.

Lousada
17th October 2009, 20:08
The year's most successful rallycross settlement of the FIA European Championship Off-Road Evaluation Committee: 1 Höljes (Sweden): 141.7 points, 2 Nyirád (Hungary) 131.9 pts, 3 Maasmechelen (Belgium): 125.1 pts.

The Championship race of the year's best-rallycross drivers: 1 Höljes (Sweden): 81.8 points, 2 Lydd Hill (England): 79 pts, 3 Nyirád (Hungary): 75.6 pts, 4 Maasmechelen (Belgium): 50 pts.

Thank you for this information! Do you happen to have the full results?

Wim_Impreza
18th October 2009, 09:44
Thank you for this information, Salist. The Hungarian track is very nice on photos, videos, TV and I knew the drivers like it too. I am surprised that Maasmechelen is so high in the evaluations, because they have only 5 % real gravel in their track, not the 40% as it should be.

Iskald
22nd October 2009, 08:50
FIA World Motorsport Council yesterday decided on the 2010 calender, and once more without Norway, which IMO opinion is a complete scandal. 2009 saw Norway win all three championship titles; Div2 Knut Ove Břrseth, Div1A Mats Lysen (17 years, the youngest ever European champion) and Div1 Sverre Isachsen. A total of 99 drivers from 14 nations has scored points in the three championship classes. 24 of the points-scoring drivers are from Norway, so Norway is not only the most successful Rallycross nation, we are also by far the biggest nation in delivering competitors to the championship.

Portugal stays in the championship, without any drivers competing outside their own country - and on top of that the fact that the portuguese round is by far the most expensive for a majority of drivers competing regularly in the championship. Finland was voted back in the championship with a new organiser. Finland had two (2) points-scoring drivers in 2009...It goes on like this.

schanche
24th October 2009, 09:00
Dont envy the selection committee who have to choose between countries and venues to have the chance of appearing on the ERC Calender!.I agree that its riduculous that Norway is not represented in the championship? Three class champions and the chance of not racing in the home event makes you laugh!. Although i guess you could say at least the organisers are doing there job properly and not picking countires just on driver merit more to do with saftey and regulations to meet the standards set by the FIA.
As for the perfect calender and the Ideal way to pick events thats something that the FIA will have to look at themselves.