Brazilian Grand Prix 2008 - Official Thread

[gloomyDAY]

http://www.grandprix.com/jpeg/phc/pjap07/sun/hamilton4-lg.jpg

Ok, now don't choke.

[ShiftingGears]

But I want Massa to win the title :(

Could be quite a race if it starts raining. If it doesn't I'd have to say Lewis is going to win the title.

In any case Massa needs some sort of catastrophic race to win, because if the events of the grand prix are straightforward, I don't think Lewis will stuff it up.

Chance of showers on the weekend.

[gloomyDAY]

But I want Massa to win the title :(

Could be quite a race if it starts raining. If it doesn't I'd have to say Lewis is going to win the title.

In any case Massa needs some sort of catastrophic race to win, because if the events of the grand prix are straightforward, I don't think Lewis will stuff it up.

Chance of showers on the weekend.I'd be inclined to say that rain would probably favor the McLaren boat, err, car. I think if Lewis and crew didn't botch Monza during qualifying that they could have won that race. Fortunately, that never happened and Vettel went on to win. When it came down to Spa, Lewis was also able to defeat Kimi and take the win (oops, forgot Hammy was swindled).

Massa hasn't been exactly brilliant in the rain. I just coughed up some water remembering Silverstone. We'll have to wait and see!

[ShiftingGears]

I'd be inclined to say that rain would probably favor the McLaren boat, err, car. I think if Lewis and crew didn't botch Monza during qualifying that they could have won that race. Fortunately, that never happened and Vettel went on to win. When it came down to Spa, Lewis was also able to defeat Kimi and take the win (oops, forgot Hammy was swindled).

Massa hasn't been exactly brilliant in the rain. I just coughed up some water remembering Silverstone. We'll have to wait and see!

True. Massa's in a bit of a pickle if the weather conditions are chaotic.

[F1boat]

I hope that Massa will win the championship, or at least that Ferrari will win the WCC.

[Dave B]

Obviously I want Hamilton to win the race and the title, but I'd also like it if Massa could be on the podium at his home Grand Prix.

Silverstone aside he's driven superbly all year and has displayed sportsmanship the like of which has been sadly lacking from F1 in recent times.

Whatever happens we're guaranteed a first-time World Champion; I just hope that the race reflects the excitement of the season and isn't a snooze-fest like China.

[Tazio]

I'd be inclined to say that rain would probably favor the McLaren boat, err, car. I think if Lewis and crew didn't botch Monza during qualifying that they could have won that race. Fortunately, that never happened and Vettel went on to win. When it came down to Spa, Lewis was also able to defeat Kimi and take the win (oops, forgot Hammy was swindled).

Massa hasn't been exactly brilliant in the rain. I just coughed up some water remembering Silverstone. We'll have to wait and see!The point is that rain, and especially rain that starts after the green lights can cause all kinds of havoc.
Discarding the fact that Lewis, and the McLaren perform better in the rain than the Ferrari.
McLaren has seemed to have had the upper hand in strategy and tyre choice in rain races.
You can look at this two ways:
McLaren's operation is simply better at managing these situations( there is plenty of evidence of this)

Or, that they have rolled the dice with their bet on the "pass" line without crapping out all season, and are overdue to pitch
Snake-eyes :eek:

[ArrowsFA1]

I think, and hope, Massa will win the race and Hamilton the championship :s mokin:

[555-04Q2]

http://www.grandprix.com/jpeg/phc/pjap07/sun/hamilton4-lg.jpg

Ok, now don't choke.

Now you,ve gone and jinxed the guy :(

[jens]

It would be great to see Massa winning in front of his home crowd. The Brazilian spectators are one of the best and if Massa wins a title there, it would create a fantastic athmosphere. On the other hand I don't want to see Hamilton losing it again for the second year in a row in the same manner.

[gloomyDAY]

Now you,ve gone and jinxed the guy :(
LOL

I have this nagging feeling that Hamilton is going to slam into someone at the beginning of the race. Tazio made a similar prediction last year, so I'm aiming to get post of the year.

[Tazio]

:rolleyes: If you think that is going to get you a ride on my motorcycle, you are sorely mistaken mister!

[Tazio]

http://www.grandprix.com/jpeg/phc/pjap07/sun/hamilton4-lg.jpg


LOL

I have this nagging feeling that Hamilton is going to slam into someone at the beginning of the race. Tazio made a similar prediction last year, so I'm aiming to get post of the year.
Well I know it wasn't this one:



Here me now and understand me later
Fred is going to race his ass off!
Will he get past hamiliton
Probably not! Then again he might
come out of turn 2 ahead of him
did I drink the Kool Aid? Let's just say
I'd rather rule in hell,
than serve in heaven

Or this one!

And just because Fred acted unlike Roy F*****g Hobbs, Doesn't mean he won't act irrationally, and or, in his own interests. It reminds me of a line from “The Princess Bride”. When Enugo Montoya told Leslie "I give you my word as a Spaniard you will reach the top alive." Leslie still disguised as the Dread Pirate Roberts replied “No thanks! I've known too many Spaniards"I certainly wasn't the one who posted this one :eek:
...add your own 'priceless' moment from season 2007!

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k288/arifromoz/Random/priceless.jpgI think you are referring to this one
This season will close with an applaud so loud that the anthems will be silenced by the din made from the sound of every fair minded, scrupulous, f1 loving, Homo Sapien, this side of Uranus when Kimi snatches the championship in a dream of a race that will restore that little iota of dignity this sport has left in it this season. :beer:

[Valve Bounce]

Sorry I won't be joining you guys at pino's chat for both quals and race - the race is on at 3 bloody am. :(

[truefan72]

so I see DC's car has a special livery, does this mean that Webber's car will be adorned with the same liver?
would be a bit odd seeing two liveries ala nascar and cart

[gloomyDAY]

http://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/imageuploads/1225378357_80.177.117.97.jpg

The Brits are celebrating. Damn it! Like the kiss of death.

[ShiftingGears]

That looks more like a thinly veiled advertising tactic more than anything.

[Knock-on]

Can we talk about someone apart from Lewis? Some people are obsessed :D

Anyway, what's the weather prediction.

[Dave B]

Anyway, what's the weather prediction.
They had a #1 hit with Love Is All Around :s mokin:

http://weather.msn.com/tenday.aspx?wealocations=wc:BRXX0232

http://www.accuweather.com/world-forecast-15day.asp?partner=accuweather&traveler=0&locCode=SAM|BR|BR023|S%E3o%20Paulo&metric=1

[Ranger]

Can we talk about someone apart from Lewis? Some people are obsessed :D

Anyway, what's the weather prediction.
Not good for anything red!

Autosport says:
Friday: showers
Saturday: showers
Sunday: t-storms

weather.com says:
Friday: showers (60% chance)
Saturday: showers (50% chance)
Sunday: rain (100% chance) :D

Should be interesting.

[PolePosition_1]

Massa has been unfairly stereotyped with regards to his wet weather driving skills. If you look at when the Ferrari was decent in the wet, Monaco, or back last year, he has been strong.

His poor wet performances have been due to the car, look at Kimi, he hasn't done much in the wet either.

Though Ferrari claim to have ressolved their wet weather issue, so if that is the case hopefully we'll have a good fight.

I think McLaren would rather it stay dry, because it would make it a lot more mundane and more predictable, which is what they are after.

Interestingly, I'm watching practice now and its dry.

[Knock-on]

Not good for anything red!

Autosport says:
Friday: showers
Saturday: showers
Sunday: t-storms

weather.com says:
Friday: showers (60% chance)
Saturday: showers (50% chance)
Sunday: rain (100% chance) :D

Should be interesting.

<Knockie does his little rain dance>

Superb. Even if Lewis screws it, the chances of Massa running well in the wet are remote. :D

[Dave B]

Timo Glock's just done a 21m06.787.

Either Toyota are having real problems or live timing's screwed! :eek:

[Dave B]

Far better TV coverage from FOM than when Globo used to do Brazil.

A minor and harmless spin from Kimi, there's clearly a little bit of moisture on the track.

[Robinho]

if it really s down on sunday i will predict neither championship contender will finish, but a Brazilian will win

remember i told you!

[Knock-on]

Far better TV coverage from FOM than when Globo used to do Brazil.

A minor and harmless spin from Kimi, there's clearly a little bit of moisture on the track.

Well you have a little bit of altitude, 17 degree air, 20 degree track and 70% humidity and wonder why the cars are a bit jittery ;)

[Robinho]

whats the scores on the doors at the moment, i can't get near any live timing or pictures from work, but shouldn't the 1st session be about done by now?

[Tazio]

Free Practice 1

1 F. Massa Ferrari 1:12.305 24
2 L. Hamilton McLaren 1:12.495 23
3 K. Räikkönen Ferrari 1:12.507 18
4 R. Kubica BMW 1:12.874 24
5 H. Kovalainen McLaren 1:12.925 20
6 F. Alonso Renault 1:13.061 25
7 M. Webber Red Bull 1:13.298 24
8 N. Piquet jr. Renault 1:13.378 39
9 N. Heidfeld BMW 1:13.426 28
10 T. Glock Toyota 1:13.466 33
11 J. Trulli Toyota 1:13.600 24
12 N. Rosberg Williams 1:13.621 23
13 S. Bourdais Scuderia Toro Rosso 1:13.649 30
14 R. Barrichello Honda 1:13.676 28
15 J. Button Honda 1:13.766 13
16 K. Nakajima Williams 1:13.806 24
17 S. Vettel Scuderia Toro Rosso 1:13.836 30
18 D. Coulthard Red Bull 1:13.861 19
19 A. Sutil Force India F1 1:14.704 21
20 G. Fisichella Force India F1 1:14.821 21

[Robinho]

no surprises there then, i have a feeling the whole thing will be a massive anti climax, a predicatble 1-2 for Ferrari, with Hamilton a safe 3rd, everyone else half a lap down fighting for the minor points.

Kovy finishing 9th after a late random incident

[Tazio]

no surprises there then, i have a feeling the whole thing will be a massive anti climax, a predicatble 1-2 for Ferrari, with Hamilton a safe 3rd, everyone else half a lap down fighting for the minor points.
Kovy finishing 9th after a late random incident It's no surprise that Lewis has this speed on a throw-away new engine in free practice!
I question how hard Lewis should, and will push a second race engine come Sunday with the title on the line!
Lets us also not discount his "Bad ju-ju" courtesy of "Metaphysical Spainiards" :eek:

[Knock-on]

It's no surprise that Lewis has this speed on a throw-away new engine in free practice!
I question how hard Lewis should, and will push a second race engine come Sunday with the title on the line!
Lets us also not discount his "Bad ju-ju" courtesy of "Metaphysical Spainiards" :eek:

I agree. If I was him, I would be familiarising myself on 18,000 revs max and doing enough to feel comfy with the car prior to quali.

Then put it too bed and leave it in the garage as much as possible.

[Dave B]

Five Live reporting that rain looks imminent as practice 2 gets underway.

[Tazio]

Nico first to put on option pops into first!

[Tazio]

And then the rains came!!!
Massa and lewis both got one hot lap on options! Massa p1
lewis p10 has struggled all session in sector 2
IT'S ONLY PRACTICE ;)

[Tazio]

The track has come back with 30 mins left kimi improves his time substantially

[Dave B]

The traditional soft-tyre low-fuel end to the session from Renault!

[Tazio]

Fred! :p :



http://www.formula1.com/services/live_timing/live_timing_popup.html

[Tazio]

Results
Pos. Driver Team Tires Time Laps
1 F. Alonso Renault 1:12.296 43
2 F. Massa Ferrari 1:12.353 41
3 J. Trulli Toyota 1:12.435 44
4 K. Räikkönen Ferrari 1:12.600 32
5 M. Webber Red Bull 1:12.650 45
6 S. Vettel Scuderia Toro Rosso 1:12.687 47
7 N. Piquet jr. Renault 1:12.703 44
8 N. Rosberg Williams 1:12.761 42
9 L. Hamilton McLaren 1:12.827 33
10 K. Nakajima Williams 1:12.886 42
11 D. Coulthard Red Bull 1:12.896 38
12 R. Kubica BMW 1:12.971 48
13 N. Heidfeld BMW 1:13.038 49
14 T. Glock Toyota 1:13.041 39
15 H. Kovalainen McLaren 1:13.213 37
16 R. Barrichello Honda 1:13.221 39
17 S. Bourdais Scuderia Toro Rosso 1:13.273 41
18 J. Button Honda 1:13.341 49
19 A. Sutil Force India F1 1:13.428 32
20 G. Fisichella Force India F1 1:13.691 33

[ioan]

Results
Pos. Driver Team Tires Time Laps
1 F. Alonso Renault 1:12.296 43
2 F. Massa Ferrari 1:12.353 41
3 J. Trulli Toyota 1:12.435 44
4 K. Räikkönen Ferrari 1:12.600 32
5 M. Webber Red Bull 1:12.650 45
6 S. Vettel Scuderia Toro Rosso 1:12.687 47
7 N. Piquet jr. Renault 1:12.703 44
8 N. Rosberg Williams 1:12.761 42
9 L. Hamilton McLaren 1:12.827 33
10 K. Nakajima Williams 1:12.886 42
11 D. Coulthard Red Bull 1:12.896 38
12 R. Kubica BMW 1:12.971 48
13 N. Heidfeld BMW 1:13.038 49
14 T. Glock Toyota 1:13.041 39
15 H. Kovalainen McLaren 1:13.213 37
16 R. Barrichello Honda 1:13.221 39
17 S. Bourdais Scuderia Toro Rosso 1:13.273 41
18 J. Button Honda 1:13.341 49
19 A. Sutil Force India F1 1:13.428 32
20 G. Fisichella Force India F1 1:13.691 33

If only qualifying results would look like that! :D

[Tazio]

HK working on set-up of Mclaren 2010 Moon-Rover! :dozey:

[harvick#1]

If only qualifying results would look like that! :D

if only the race results would look like that :D

[gloomyDAY]

if only the race results would look like that :D Hey......

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/4894/cerealdogck8.jpg

[ioan]

Hey......

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/4894/cerealdogck8.jpg

So what? You better be gone before I finish my siesta! :D

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/10/Lion_waiting_in_Nambia.jpg

[Easy Drifter]

That's a nice pussy cat. Nice pussy cat. Play nice now.

Famous last words.

[Tazio]

Sorry I won't be joining you guys at pino's chat for both quals and race - the race is on at 3 bloody am. :(
I will also miss you guys for the race! Gloomyday, and I will be watching it at Henry's Pub in the San Diego Gaslamp District!
If any other "Baja Men” are in the area you should join us! Actually I just want my last known time and location documented,
as he impresses me as a fellow who carries a knife, as knows how to use it!
I would not be at all surprised if this guy "offs" me and scatters my remains over three or four counties :eek:
At the very least I have every expectation that we will be trading "Hay-Makers" before the third lap! :p :

(Actually I plan on "side-punching" him during the formation lap. That is a secret so please let's keep this one under our hat!) ;)

[markabilly]

I will also miss you guys for the race! Gloomyday, and I will be watching it at Henry's Pub in the San Diego Gaslamp District!
If any other "Baja Men” are in the area you should join us! Actually I just want my last known time and location documented,
as he impresses me as a fellow who carries a knife, as knows how to use it!
I would not be at all surprised if this guy "offs" me and scatters my remains over three or four counties
At the very least I have every expectation that we will be trading "Hay-Makers" before the third lap!

(Actually I plan on "side-punching" him during the formation lap. That is a secret so please let's keep this one under our hat!) ;)


Tell him your are buying if da Hamster wins.....nothing like a repeat...
another 'priceless' moment from season 2008!

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k288/arifromoz/Random/priceless.jpg

Woow you suddenly show up....
You must have some inside info that massa might be in????Huummm
BTW---speaking of that pub...wish I could be there....I used to go to that pub all the time, but quit after it went all kinky with the gay S&M stuff.... :eek: :crazy: ...





Sooryyy

[Tazio]

BTW---speaking of that pub...wish I could be there....I used to go to that pub all the time, but quit after it went all kinky with the gay S&M stuff.... :eek: :crazy: ...





Sooryyy :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[ioan]

FP3, and Alonso does it again!

Ferrari better have something up their sleeves.

[Tazio]

It looks like we have an interesting conundrum developing for quali, (and the race) It seems that today it will be dry, while tomorrow will be a steady rain

Today: Generally cloudy. High around 70F. Winds SE at 10 to 15 mph.

Tomorrow: Showers early, becoming a steady rain later in the day. High around 75F. Winds NW at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 80%. Rainfall around a quarter of an inch.
http://weather.yahoo.com/Sao-Paulo-Brazil/BRXX0232/forecast.html

This has got to leave Ferrari, McLaren (as well as everyone else) with some serious setup, and fuel load issues. If these predictions are accurate, in order to qualify on the front row, or near it, they will not be able to run too much rear wing element! However in the rain without it you will be at a huge disadvantage. Plus a low fuel load will be a dodgy proposition. The chance of a saftey car situation is a very likely eventuality. This could get very interesting! :)

[Daniel]

w00t. Lewis is back in the pack with Felipe on pole :D

[ArrowsFA1]

Second row is hardly back in the pack :laugh: but credit to Felipe for doing all he can do and getting pole :up:

The spanner in the works for McLaren might be the Trulli Train but still 4th for Lewis is solid if not spectacular.

[Daniel]

Second row is hardly back in the pack :laugh: but credit to Felipe for doing all he can do and getting pole :up:

The spanner in the works for McLaren might be the Trulli Train but still 4th for Lewis is solid if not spectacular.
But when you've got Kimi next to you Fernando behind you I think you're not going to be comfortable. But you're right and I shall withdraw my back in the pack remark :p

[ArrowsFA1]

But when you've got Kimi next to you Fernando behind you I think you're not going to be comfortable.
Oh, I agree. For sure Lewis would have wanted to be on the front row, but row two is ok given what he needs to do tomorrow.

It's all set up nicely :p

[jens]

Forza Jarno!!! Toyota's starts are good and I hope for a miracle - the race lead. :p : If the nerves of title contenders give up, then why not a very special result ? ;) The conditions are quite warm, so this benefits Toyota... and of course, Ferrari. The Brazilian crowd is the best as usual. :up:

Like last year, Hamilton is again in a situation, where it's easy to make a mistake...

STR showed excellent pace, while Renault didn't seem as impressive as in the last few weekends.

Interestingly Heidfeld has become a better qualifier than Kubica at the end of the season. Also Nakajima has outqualified Rosberg for the second time out of last 3 GP's.

[Tazio]

Oh, I agree. For sure Lewis would have wanted to be on the front row, but row two is ok given what he needs to do tomorrow.

It's all set up nicely :p I say it's a trap! Lewis will have his hands full tomorrow!

[Daniel]

I say it's a trap! Lewis will have his hands full tomorrow!
You should have added this :)
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/197/ackbarco1.jpg

[ioan]

So, Ferrari were running on race fuel the whole week end?!

[harvick#1]

well Alonso said hes going to anything he could to help Massa :laugh: this should be a very interesting start for tomorrow. wonder if Hamilton is gonna get alittle sandwiched. and having Trulli starting in front, Hamilton is gonna have a difficult one.

and with Massa getting his third consecutive pole at Brazil, I see him running away with the race much like in 06

[markabilly]

trulli on front row?
Seems that mac and ferrai may be fudging towards a rain set up and toyota ran light tanks and a dry set up?

Or did Trulli just find something he been missing all year

[Daniel]

Oh, I agree. For sure Lewis would have wanted to be on the front row, but row two is ok given what he needs to do tomorrow.

It's all set up nicely :p

Yep it certainly is! It looks like it will be a good race. My gut feeling is that Lewis is going to cheat himself out of a title again but who really knows until the lights go out and the race starts? :)

[Tazio]

Or did Trulli just find something he been missing all year
My guess is that Ferrari made him an offer he couldn't refuse! ;)

Actually a part of me wants Lewis to win. As insufferable as his fans will be if he does win, I think the flip side of the coin will test the bounds of human suffering. We could see the largest mass suicide since the Reverend Jim Jones had his congregation drink the cyanide laced Kool-Aid. The wife-beating, child abuse, and animal cruelty rates are likely to jump exponentially. Not to mention the nervous breakdowns, and other psychological disorders to follow!
:) :) :) :)

[pino]

Ferrari and Massa should not count on Jarno's help, as he's told Ital TV that he will try his best to finish highest possible no matter what.

Bravo Jarno :up:

[Tazio]

Ferrari and Massa should not count on Jarno's help, as he's told Ital TV that he will try his best to finish highest possible no matter what.

Bravo Jarno :up:
And were supposed to believe that? :dozey:

[ioan]

Ferrari and Massa should not count on Jarno's help, as he's told Ital TV that he will try his best to finish highest possible no matter what.

Bravo Jarno :up:

As long as he doesn't take anyone out I'm fine with that.

[nigelred5]

My guess is that Ferrari made him an offer he couldn't refuse! ;)

Actually a part of me wants Lewis to win. As insufferable as his fans will be if he does win, I think the flip side of the coin will test the bounds of human suffering. We could see the largest mass suicide since the Reverend Jim Jones had his congregation drink the cyanide laced Kool-Aid. The wife-beating, child abuse, and animal cruelty rates are likely to jump exponentially. Not to mention the nervous breakdowns, and other psychological disorders to follow!
:) :) :)


But think how delightful the forum would be without all the hamsters ;)

[ioan]

But think how delightful the forum would be without all the hamsters ;)

:up: :D

[Tazio]

But think how delightful the forum would be without all the hamsters ;) Those guys are like the Taliban. They never exactly lose.
They regroup and come back for more abuse! :)

[VkmSpouge]

Good qualifying by Felipe Massa, home crowd advantage working really well for him. He's doing what he has to. Lewis Hamilton will be disappointed not to be on the front row but if the race finishes in the exact order it starts he'll be very happy. Very good qualifying by Jarno Trulli, just wonder how many laps worth of fuel is in his car.

[markabilly]

As insufferable as his fans will be if he does win, I think the flip side of the coin will test the bounds of human suffering. We could see the largest mass suicide since the Reverend Jim Jones had his congregation drink the cyanide laced Kool-Aid. The wife-beating, child abuse, and animal cruelty rates are likely to jump exponentially. Not to mention the nervous breakdowns, and other psychological disorders to follow!
:) :)

I would say I will drink to that, but I never like to drink alone..... :beer:

But not to worry, cause you know

I got the cure for all and everything

for what will be ailing them, one drink and no more wife beating, child abuse, animal cruelty, nervous breakdowns ....

fact is if he wins, I will still buy all of them a round, on the house :love: .

Rev Jimmie???he ain't seen nothing...well at least not lately
Better get to mixing now, tommorrow could be a long day.....so many fans, so little time :wave:

[markabilly]

My late prediction....Kimi goes for the clean side at the start and ham on the outside will not give and they collide :mad: ...giving massa a sure fire win and WDC!!! :D ...until his pit stop...... :( ......

Da Hamster then gives a press interview where he announces that it was because he had bigger balls, which along with his superior driving skills and superior ability to handle pressure, that intimidated Massa into making the pit stop where the mechanics......

[Roamy]

my prediction is that they will squeeze LH in the first turn like a 2 pound pimple on the prom queen

[TMorel]

My prediction is that it will be a clean race, but a dull one.
A total yawnfest with no overtaking or drama anywhere. Massa winning the race, Ferrari with constructors and Hamilton the Drivers

[gravity]

What are the weather predictions? Last time I checked they were talking about rain throughout Sunday. If that's the case, Ferrari's only hope is for Lewis to be taken out in a T1 accident (perhaps that's why Jarno starts with 10 laps worth of fuel?).
If there is wet weather for the majority of the race today, I reckon we can expect an Alonso, Lewis and Vettel podium.
Ferrari will prob be on the wrong tyres when the conditions change.

[Valve Bounce]

What are the weather predictions? Last time I checked they were talking about rain throughout Sunday. If that's the case, Ferrari's only hope is for Lewis to be taken out in a T1 accident (perhaps that's why Jarno starts with 10 laps worth of fuel?).
If there is wet weather for the majority of the race today, I reckon we can expect an Alonso, Lewis and Vettel podium.
Ferrari will prob be on the wrong tyres when the conditions change.

Well, that's the gravity of the situation. :(

[Dave B]

Ferrari and Massa should not count on Jarno's help, as he's told Ital TV that he will try his best to finish highest possible no matter what.

Bravo Jarno :up:

Here's what he said in the press conference (http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2008/11/8626.html):


Q: How do you tackle this race given there’s a World Championship going on around you?

JT: I know that there are people fighting for it, but to be honest, I race for myself and I race for my team. I race for points and racing is all my life. So all I want to do… with all my experience, I know that I don’t have to take too many risks. You can bet on me that if I am wheel-to-wheel into the first corner and I am on the inside line, I won’t give up – this is pretty sure – but for sure if I am behind, I won’t try a crazy attack at the first corner. I will just try to manage and to do my race because in the end it is the final result which is the most important. All I want is to do my race and try to score the best possible result. Felipe will do his race as well, as well as Lewis and then we will see. I don’t think we’re going to have any problems and honestly, the championship and stuff doesn’t do anything to my mind.


:up: indeed.

[markabilly]

My late prediction....Kimi goes for the clean side at the start and ham on the outside will not give and they collide :mad: ...giving massa a sure fire win and WDC!!! :D ...until his pit stop...... :( ......

Da Hamster then gives a press interview where he announces that it was because he had bigger balls, which along with his superior driving skills and superior ability to handle pressure, that intimidated Massa into making the pit stop where the mechanics......


What are the weather predictions? Last time I checked they were talking about rain throughout Sunday. If that's the case, Ferrari's only hope is for Lewis to be taken out in a T1 accident (perhaps that's why Jarno starts with 10 laps worth of fuel?).
If there is wet weather for the majority of the race today, I reckon we can expect an Alonso, Lewis and Vettel podium.
Ferrari will prob be on the wrong tyres when the conditions change.


I was going to say the mechanics send him out while still connected to the fuel hose and cost him the win and the wdc title....but that already happenned at Sing a port .... :( ....(if Massa had won @Sing a port, and assumming that ole Britatorie had not hatched the plot to have NP, jr. crash out at just the right time to hand the win to FA...how many points would Hamster need to win right now??? And who got the most votes for president in 2000---Gore or Bush?? So who deserved to win and who gonna win... :confused: ...)

ssooo, like most objects with weight, i will gravitate to going with the wrong tires put on the car in da usual ferrari pit-slop

Hush, little baby don't you cry,
You know your daddy's bound to die
all my trials, Lord, soon be over

but massa fans don't cry yet and may the paranoia of hamster fans never cease

Hush little baby don't you cry
Momma's gonna buy you a mockingbird...

The stewards anounce their investigation.....

[ArrowsFA1]

The stewards anounce their investigation.....
Of the many things that may happen that is one which I hope will have no influence on the outcome. I hope the WDC will be won, not lost or taken away.

[Tazio]

What are the weather predictions? Last time I checked they were talking about rain throughout Sunday.

Detailed Local Forecast:
Periods of rain. High 74F. Winds NNW at 5 to 10 mph. Rainfall near a half an inch.

http://weather.yahoo.com/Sao-Paulo-Brazil/BRXX0232/forecast.html

If they start behind the Safety car Lewis is home free.
If not he is in peril :eek:

[ArrowsFA1]

If they start behind the Safety car Lewis is home free.
If not he is in peril :eek:
What happens if the race can't be started at all due to the weather conditions :confused:

Do they wait for the weather to clear? If so, how long do they wait? Does the race get delayed/postponed/cancelled/re-run on another date?

[Dave B]

There's local weather radar here:
http://www.ipmet.unesp.br/index2.php?menu_esq1=1&abre=ipmet_html/radar/ppi.php

Looks like very light rain at the moment.

[markabilly]

Of the many things that may happen that is one which I hope will have no influence on the outcome. I hope the WDC will be won, not lost or taken away.

Don't be such a spoil-sport!!

Call it an encore...a season extender....and if Bernie could only figure out some way to $copyright$ the $legal$ proceedings $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

think of the postings here, the advertizing revenue from all those pop-ups and the poor, starving families of all those lawyers, even the worst curmudgeon would not take all that away

[nigelred5]

There's local weather radar here:
http://www.ipmet.unesp.br/index2.php?menu_esq1=1&abre=ipmet_html/radar/ppi.php

Looks like very light rain at the moment.

Since I can't make heads or tails of Portugese, do they have a loop version of the radar. Any idea what direction their weatherpatterns come from (E vs W)?

[Tazio]

If Lewis does have a strong race it will make a very strong statement about him, and McLaren.
He is on a second race engine, and third race transmission!

Why couldn't we have sunny and unseasonably hot! ;)

[yodasarmpit]

It raining :)

[Tazio]

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/motor/2008-11-02-2000335610_x.htm

By Tales Azzoni, Associated Press Writer
SAO PAULO, Brazil — Light rain fell at the Interlagos track Sunday morning and heavy showers were expected in the afternoon when Lewis Hamilton and Felipe Massa race for the Formula One title during the decisive Brazilian Grand Prix.
Thousands of fans lined up to enter Interlagos in the hope of celebrating Brazil's first F1 title since Ayrton Senna in 1991.

Massa, who grew up near Interlagos, will start from pole position with his Ferrari in the season-ending race, with points leader Hamilton fourth on the grid for McLaren.

Massa, who trails by seven points, has to finish first or second to have a chance of winning. Hamilton can become F1's youngest champion by finishing fifth or better, regardless of where Massa finishes.

The sun came out at times in the morning, but forecasters predict an 80 percent chance of thunderstorms around the start of the race at noon EST.

FIND MORE STORIES IN: Formula One | Ferrari | McLaren | Lewis Hamilton | Felipe Massa | Ayrton Senna | Brazilian Grand Prix | Brazilian GP | Interlagos | Damon Hill | Kimi Raikonnen
About 70,000 fans are expected at Interlagos, and the track was already nearly packed more than five hours before the race. Most of the fans were dressed in the red colors of Ferrari, and many carried banners supporting Massa - and some wishing bad luck to Hamilton.

Hamilton missed a chance to win the title in his rookie season last year by blowing a seven-point advantage over Kimi Raikonnen, Massa's teammate, in the last race.

The title this year would still make Hamilton the youngest champion at age 23. Renault's Fernando Alonso was 24 when he clinched the title in 2005 :eek: :eek:


:eek: :eek: :eek:

[pino]

30 Min to go...

Good luck Lewis, Good luck Felipe, may the best man win :up:

[ioan]

Good LucK everyone!

PS: It's raining now!

[ash1751]

It's raining!!!

[ash1751]

wow it is raining hard!

Delayed start too.

[ioan]

Start aborted, will start in 10 minutes!

[ArrowsFA1]

Start delayed. Good decision given how heavy it's raining.

[ash1751]

it's now nearly stopped raining. If this happens during the race it's going to cause chaos!

[ash1751]

it's now nearly stopped raining. If this happens during the race it's going to cause chaos!

[ioan]

That was it! Rain stopped and it looks sunny again.
Man, what a complete casino!

[ioan]

Start delayed. Good decision given how heavy it's raining.

Not sure about that! ;)

[ArrowsFA1]

Tension. What tension :p :

[ash1751]

That was it! Rain stopped and it looks sunny again.
Man, what a complete casino!

Makes it even more exciting!

[ioan]

According to Renault there will be no rain for the next 40 minutes!

[ash1751]

According to Renault there will be no rain for the next 40 minutes!

Although that may completly change!!

[yodasarmpit]

The cars havn't left the start line and it's already an exciting race :)

[ArrowsFA1]

So...what tyres do you start on?

[ioan]

Why are they putting wets on?! Doesn't look like they will need it for more than 3 laps.

Some parts of the track look wetter than the start finish straight.

[ash1751]

So...what tyres do you start on?

Im undecided. Slick or inters. :confused:

[ioan]

So...what tyres do you start on?

Intermediates should be more than enough. Still dries could be good too.

[ArrowsFA1]

Why are they putting wets on?! Doesn't look like they will need it for more than 3 laps.
But...staying on the track in those three laps could be...difficult :dozey:

[pino]

Guys I am so excited !!! :D

[ash1751]

Guys I am so excited !!! :D

your not the only one! :D

[ArrowsFA1]

Here goes :eek:

[ash1751]

I wonder who will get a bad start.........

[ash1751]

Coulthard spun :(
and out :(

[ash1751]

saftey car!

[ioan]

No need for a SC there. What the hell is with this nanny sport.

[ArrowsFA1]

Gutted for DC :(

Being on the right tyres at the right time is going to be crucial :dozey:

[ash1751]

Massa is in!

[ash1751]

Now Hamilton.

[yodasarmpit]

wow, McLaren really cocked that one up, Lewis should have been on dry's before Kova

[ash1751]

Fisi currently in 5th!

[tintop]

Wow, how pathetic was BMW's tire choice, they just cratered Kubi's season.

From what it looked like on-line anyways

[ArrowsFA1]

Never thought I'd say this, but great pass by Hamilton on the Force India. That was important!

[ash1751]

No more rain expected

[ArrowsFA1]

What's the betting that Kimi will back up towards Lewis at some point soon...

[Daniel]

What's the betting that Kimi will back up towards Lewis at some point soon...
And do what? He's not going to take him out and he'd only going to get passed by Hamilton if he tries to back Hamilton up into the clutches of the chasing pack.

[ArrowsFA1]

And do what?
Do what he can for Ferrari and Massa, and I don't mean taking Hamilton out...just backing him up into traffic and maybe forcing Hamilton into taking a risk.

Still...all that speculation could be redundant if it rains again :eek:

[ArrowsFA1]

Could this be scripted any better (or worse!!!!) :confused: :eek: :eek:

[ash1751]

Inters????

[ash1751]

Hamilton comes in for inters.

[ArrowsFA1]

Massa stays out, Hamilton in!!

[ash1751]

3 laps to go! Hamilton still in a position to win the championship.

[ArrowsFA1]

No he's not now!!!

[ash1751]

Now he isnt!

[ArrowsFA1]

Massa is champion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ash1751]

What an end to the race! :)

[ArrowsFA1]

What!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ash1751]

Massa is champion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

oh no he isnt!

[ArrowsFA1]

It's Hamilton!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ioan]

What a pity.

See you next season.

[rickos]

What a pity.

See you next season.

Best car, poo poo ka ka driver.

[yodasarmpit]

wow, what an end to a great season, regardless of who won

[ArrowsFA1]

Toyota's gamble did it.

Poor Felipe.

Well done Lewis.

What an awesome ending :eek:

[Daniel]

Do what he can for Ferrari and Massa, and I don't mean taking Hamilton out...just backing him up into traffic and maybe forcing Hamilton into taking a risk.

Still...all that speculation could be redundant if it rains again :eek:
See the rest of my post which you conveniently forgot to quote ;) Not that it matters now of course! :p

[tintop]

Glock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :hot:

[harvick#1]

who won???

results please

[Robinho]

my god, what a finish, could that have been closer

[N. Jones]

WOW. Can anybody tell me, without getting a chance to watch the race again, HOW Vettel got by Lewis?

And I can truely say that Toyota has made and lost a friend on this day! :laugh

[nigelred5]

WTF!!!! WHY THE HE!! would he give up a 4th???

[Ian McC]

Gawd, I need a lay down now!

[N]

arrghhhh, I can't believe it, what a finish, a lap before the end, I was thinking, great, Massa world champ and then Hamilton moves up one place and his is the championship..... I can't believe it, what a race.

[ash1751]

who won???

results please

Massa
Alonso
Raikkonen
Vettel
Hamilton
Glock
Kovalinen
Trulli
Webber
Heidfeld
Kubica
Rosberg
Button
Bourdais
Barrichello
Sutil
Nakajima
Fisichella

[ash1751]

WOW. Can anybody tell me, without getting a chance to watch the race again, HOW Vettel got by Lewis?

And I can truely say that Toyota has made and lost a friend on this day! :laugh

Hamilton drifted wide in a corner and Vettel slipped through.

[CEORacingLions]

Wtf ?????

Glock ? This Is F1 ?

Bahhhhh......

[ash1751]

Glock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :hot:
.............is the best! :D

[nigelred5]

Wtf ?????

Glock ? This Is F1 ?

Bahhhhh......


Glock :thumbsdown:

[ArrowsFA1]

Glock :thumbsdown:
In his defence he was on dry tyres and couldn't do much about it :dozey:

[harvick#1]

what did Glock do :confused:

[ash1751]

In his defence he was on dry tyres and couldn't do much about it :dozey:

he could of crashed into Hamilton :p But thank god he didnt!

[ash1751]

what did Glock do :confused:

Let lewis through into 5th so he had enough points to win the championship!

[Ranger]

what did Glock do :confused:

I think youtube will explain it best (if Bernie hasn't removed it)

Was in front of Hamilton on the last lap by 15 seconds but on dry tyres on a wet track. Both Toyota's couldn't hack the wet track, Hamilton passed him on the run out of Juncao to take 5th on the last lap and the title.

Amazing.

[ShiftingGears]

Incredible race.

[gloomyDAY]

Epic! My hands were shaking at the end.

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c123/killincommies/hamilton_banner.jpg

[donKey jote]

the only improvement I can think of for the Finale would have been Hamiilton to stay in 6th....


and Alonso to overtake Massa at the last corner :s mokin: :D

[jens]

Huhoh, it was great to see Fisichella running in the points for so long due to a very good tyre gamble in the beginning. :D Shame that Jarno couldn't pass (could have cost an extra point in the end) him though as Toyota was set up more for middle sector and lacked of top speed. DC's and Piquet's races ending in a fashion we have usually seen this season...

But anyway, whether you like the champion or not, we could at least all be proud that we have had the honour to witness such season finale. For ages F1 fans have wished to see a championship title being decided in the very last corner and although the mathematical possibility of this happening in reality is very tiny... it happened! As incredible and amazing as it may sound.

[Valve Bounce]

the only improvement I can think of for the Finale would have been Hamiilton to stay in 6th....


and Alonso to overtake Massa at the last corner :s mokin: :D

:up: